this just came to my inbox:
Dear The Saker,
The American Jewish Congress opposes the U.S. decision to withdraw troops from Syria and strongly condemns Turkey’s actions in Syria against the Kurds. In addition to endangering a U.S. ally, the Kurds, it also poses a great threat to Israel and to the region’s stability overall. Israel shares a border with Syria and is affected by what happens within Syria.
Syria has become a hotbed of Hezbollah and Iranian activity, which poses a direct threat to Israel; as a result of this decision, Turkey, Iran and Hezbollah win while Israel loses. Ultimately, the impact of this decision may come to outweigh President Trump’s historic actions in support of Israel. Regional stability and the security of our allies must be paramount for U.S. policy in the Middle East.
American Jewish Congress
American Jewish Congress
745 5th Ave., 30th Floor
New York NY 10151 United States
Let them squirm. The Israeli’s deserve nothing less than the pain and fear they are feeling at this very moment. Trump, although he may have made himself subservient to Israel, probably doesn’t realize that what he did is to the detriment of Israel. Hilarious! His simultaneous arrogance and wisdom has just vastly improved the lives of millions of Syrians for DECADES to come.
Better thank Turkey, Iran, and Hezbollah (backed by Putin’s Russia and China) for taking on our masters.
The AngloZionist supremacist Trump (Usrael) would’ve started a war with Hezbollah, Iran, and Turkey if he could, but that would’ve been suicide and the end of the AngloZionist Empire right away. (the fake-left Soros/Gorbachev types are more dangerous than the fake-right Hitler/Trump types though)
He hasn’t pulled out, he’s only pulled back. The US is still sitting on the oil fields. I suspect it’s just electioneering catering to the short-attention span voters Trump is after.
I dont quite understand, did this message was send to the Saker? Why was that? Could anyone guess why this letter express more concern about Iran or Hezbollah presence in Syria but not IS?
It was sent to me because I am on their mailing list.
In fact, I am on many, shall we say, “surprising” mailing lists!
Yes, I like to know what my enemies are thinking :-)
Yer a better man than most, Saker, I’d have puked on my keyboard before I even opened it.
“know what my enemies are thinking” is what makes watching MSM news so hard, but nessessary. Although one day, maybe, a hammer right in the middle of the screen will be required.
Israel has attacked and subverted Syria since 1948. Indeed it regards parts of Syria as ‘…belonging to the Jews’, including Damascus (as was stated on Israeli TV by Smotrich, the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset, a few years ago)a city several thousand years older than Judaism itself. And they have bombed and invaded it several times, the worst the 1982 aggression that killed tens of thousands. If Israel is under any ‘threat’ from people living in their ancestral homelands, it is ENTIRELY Israel’s fault.
Why shouldn’t Syria be our ally and our paramount concern being its security? Syria is demonstrably a much more decent and trustworthy outfit.
Has anyone noticed how gungho the US Congress became for impeachment once Nuttyahoo lost his election?
Trump has decided to stop carrying the deep state’s water, and acted on his threat to pull out of Syria. Antiwar sentiments are a minority in the Dem.party, but they take the heart and soul of that party with them.
it’s a typical psychopath approach – there is only them and nobody else…
and they take any opportunity to minimize any favors that have been done to them (i.e the Orange Satan doing everything they ever asked for etc)
Nothing is ever enough for psychopaths – they would not be happy if you were to give them everything in the world
I can only agree. It is an astonishingly blunt letter, devoid of the usual diplomatic filler words I.e. “concern” about Syria… “strongly urging” President Trump to do something etc.
Instead “Syria is a hotbed” – very condescending language- and “this decision will “outweigh” Trump’s other actions..?? A thinly disguised threat, very menacing …
The author is obviously seething with anger….
Agreed that “Syria has become a hotbed of Hezbollah and Iranian activity, ” is condescending language, to which I reply that, “Israel is a hotbed of Jewish activity.”
Let him seethe some more.
James Speaks……………………please don’t lump all jews in with mass murdering Zionists. And the hotbed is actually Occupied Palestine, if we are to call spades, spades. Condesending language is not a monopoly, nor should it be, in context.
My comment was meant as a retort to the esteemed Mr. Rosen who used “Hezbollah and Iranian activity” as a pejorative. Mr. Rosen obviously supports the concept of a Jewish state; Mr. Rosen can accept the term “hotbed of Jewish activity” in the same sense. Besides, it is, is it not?
Sean, Hotbed definition: an environment promoting the growth of something unwelcome. How this applies to Occupied Palestine? Or Syria?
Btw, James and other commentators can say whatever they like. Jack Rosen on the other hand cannot. He is the head of a powerful political organisation which claims to defend “Jews at home and abroad” using “diplomacy, legislation, and the courts.” (Wikipedia) A little more decorum and protocol is required on his part. He simply cannot send off such a letter. I think he made a huge mistake.
PS is this the same Jewish congress /org
whose very first president congratulated Hitler when he got elected – saying they are not so different after all (Jews and Hitler)?
According to this book:
The German Zionists and the Nazis got on quite well, for a while, then fell out, disastrously.
yes that what they say in this book – I think you will really enjoy it – it’s as entertaining as it is shocking and disgusting – I found it in a library here in Toronto
Oh, I have it, tomo-a real eye-opener.
full text available here:
Israel Shahak — Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years
”Turkey, Iran and Hezbollah win while Israel loses. Ultimately, the impact of this decision may come to outweigh President Trump’s historic actions in support of Israel.”
Amusingly, Jack Rosen for some reason omitted Syria in his enumeration. For, if anything, it is the Syrian people, the Syrian Arab Army, Bashar al-Assad, and the Ba’ath Party which will play a most crucial role as things begin to ’outweigh President Trump’s historic actions in support of Israel’.
Saker, I hope you will kindly share our feedback with this gentleman as you reply to his mail, LOL.
Israel’s seventy years of hatred for its neighbours, incessant aggression, belligerence, subversion, wars of mass destruction, massacres and constant land theft (and the threat of much more)and the pitiless suppression, oppression and dispossession of the Palestinians, was always certain to end with Israel’s self-destruction. No matter how firmly you believe all others are inferior to your chosen selves, they are human beings just like Jewish human beings, and eventually must get their act together to, first, defend themselves eg Hezbollah, then strike back, hard, at Israel itself. So, either Israel changes its spots and makes peace, or it is doomed, and so, too, are its victims, because Israel has nukes, and will use them, to ‘…take the world down with us’, as Zionazi chiefs have often threatened.
Psychopaths tend to self-destruct – and zionism always seemed to me like a ‘culture’ as a psychopath.
regarding their perceived superiority – judging by at least a hundred of jews I know (both in the UK and California) – I don’t think they think of themselves as better than anyone. they are actually quite insecure (yet can be arrogant like Brits and for the same reason – insecurity).
it’s a psychopaths’ game they play – nothing is as it seems when you deal with psychos and psychopaths as a culture.
The reason they are normally greedy, backstabbing, full of hidden agendas etc is exactly due to their insecurity – it’s hard to have self respect when you know you are a lying, deceitful psycho (and this kind of people know who they are very well).
The same thing applies to Americans – I have never actually met a really confident (or even brave) American in all my 14 or so years I spent there.
Part of their psychopathic game is to try to kill self-confidence in their victims, to turn everyone against everyone else (as Americans are naturally)
Some of the jews are very wealthy and they are the least secure or confident of all (even though a few of them are world famous). Confidence and self-respect cannot be bought
That’s why you can see grannies in Serbia or Argentina etc much happier and infinitely more confident and brave and self-respecting than any wealthy psychopath in LA, London or NY.
It comes for a meaningful life well-lived in a rich genuine social context.
It does not come from acting, lying and stealing – as much as such psychos try to promote it or to see it in real life.
Biology is stronger than psychopaths
Say Jack, How ’bout you get out of the Golan Hills in Syria?
Oh, that’s right, your homies at Exxon found that it’s Floating on Oil.
And No, you Neglected to get your Puppets in the U.S. Con-Gress to Declare a War against Syria (and for what), Unlike how the Russians were Invited In by Syria, to help Clean Up the Mess your “Israeli Secret Intelligence Service” (ISIS) made.
And get this Straight- More and More Americans are Waking Up to the FACT that zionist dual-citizen Traitors like yourself are Controlling the U.S. Government for the benefit of your zionist entity and its Occupation of Palestine.
And We’re Fed Up with it.
Lies. USA is/was not there to “stabilize” Syria. “From chaos, comes order.”
Chaos in Syria resulting in a weak Syrian government would enable the Zionist annexation of sovereign Syrian territory. More lebensraum for the Zionists.
They should write a book, “unser Kampf”.
Have a read of Israel Shamir’s recent observation at the Unz Review on the circumstances between the Kurds, Turkey and Syria. He is reasonably optimistic about the outcome of Turkey’s invasion. Now the Jewish-run wonks at the Brookings Institute need to rethink their failed strategy for Kurdistan.
They need to rethink everything. They had assumed that Syria would fall, then Iran and finally Russia.
Because of them, Russia had motivation to build a multipolar world with China and all in between, and with Russia’s support and Syrian backbone, the Hegemon has been shown to have weaknesses where it had tried to protect strength.
It was a mistake to mess with Syria. The Jewish wonks don’t get that and never will.
Okay Mr. Rosen: Now tell us exactly what Israel looses. And now, as a counterpoint to that, here is what America could possibly gain over whatever Israel’s losses may be: fewer Americans killed fighting Israel’s wars, yes? America perhaps a little less bankrupt, maybe? We can dream, I know, I know!
Saker, most interesting that they are taking notice of what you’re saying. Personally, I would’ve just hit the delete button. Or put it in the trash.
I believe in the adage: if you make your bed, then you gotta lie in it. What Israel is directly responsible for, along with the United States and Saudi Arabia is pure evil.
The mass death and destruction rained down on Syria, the support and arming of Jihadist terrorists, including providing medical care for these same ‘freedom fighters’. Remember the famous photo of Netanyahu visiting that hospital in the occupied Golan Heights?
And as well as Syria, the brutality and crimes against the Palestinians, the mass slaughter inflicted on Yemen, the destruction of Libya, all for…. geopolitical reasons, to further the aims of the Empire.
This is the most disgusting thing I have seen in a very long time. For perspective, let’s be clear about what has happened:
1) The reigns of Syria were handed to the younger brother of the heir apparent (deceased) , a fairly decent and intelligent young man who had become a doctor. His party had a history of nepotism and brutality, which he had tried to moderate.
2) Planned by the CIA and its masters, PNAC/AIPAC/Mossad, funded by KSA and other barbarous “kingdoms” composed of tribal horsemen who got paid off to sell a once in a life-time source of wealth, and staffed by disillusioned angry young men from all over, Syria was attacked from within in a phony civil war that paid little heed to the valid grievances of the disaffected population and in fact had worsened the lives of those it pretended to benefit.
3) Syria was near collapse when Russia stepped in, offering iar support and technical expertise. At this point in time, the Syrian government had not given up, but was merely being pushed into the sea.
4) Over a period of four years, the Syrian Arab Army and various tribal militias (Tigers for example) as well as experienced fighters from Lebanon, Iran and Iraq helped the legitimate government of Syria retake the lands stolen from them by the foreign mercenaries. Along the way they defeated and killed in battle or displaced the mercenaries to Idlib.
5) The Kurds, with American backing, had claimed their own territory east of the Euphrates which also contained the greater part of Syria’s oil wealth. As evidenced by the rapid collapse of the American forces when faced with an actual foe (Turkey), the Kurds switched allegiance to the Syrian government. That the peacemaker Putin had counseled moderation all along and had provided guarantees to the Kurds that they would not be “second-classed” in the reform constitution of Syria should not be overlooked.
6) Syria is now positioned to restore its democracy that had offered religious liberty to all sects that espoused peace and what do we hear from the short-lived( seventy years ) insignificant little experiment to the south? They complain.
Let’s review the letter:
Dear The Saker,
I’m sure Jack Rosen knows The Saker’s name (it’s not a secret). He could have written “Dear Saker” but he chose to open with rudeness.
The American Jewish Congress opposes the U.S. decision to withdraw troops from Syria …
They oppose a decision by the U.S. to cease hostilities that were designed to break Syria apart and ruin the lives of its people. I have rarely seen nor read a more disgusting, bloodthirsty statement than this.
…and strongly condemns Turkey’s actions in Syria against the Kurds.
Turkey has legitimate grievances against the PPK. Jack Rosen condemns Turkey for protecting its territorial integrity. I should add that if Turkish backed militants, i.e. mercenaries, go too far, then their excess could be condemned, but not the attack inside the Kurdish held areas per se.
It is also transparent that Israel supported the breakup of the superior nation, Syria. Syria has existed for thousands of years; Israel for seventy.
In addition to endangering a U.S. ally, the Kurds, it also poses a great threat to Israel and to the region’s stability overall.
This is a contradiction. Within a matter of days, we are witnessing the restoration of stability throughout eastern Syria much as we witnessed the restoration of civility across government controlled western Syria. Furthermore, the only nation that poses a threat to its neighbors is Israel.
Before Israel, there was peace in the Middle East. One can hope that peace will return.
Israel shares a border with Syria and is affected by what happens within Syria.
Syria has had land stolen from it by Israel. Yes, what happens in Syria affects Israel in the sense that a restored civility in Syria makes it less vulnerable to Israeli sponsored atrocities.
Syria has become a hotbed of Hezbollah and Iranian activity, which poses a direct threat to Israel; as a result of this decision,
Israel is a hotbed of Jewish activity. Which is the greater problem?
Syria, Hezbollah and Iran are not a threat to Israel so long as Israel behaves itself, restores right of return and land to the Palestinians stole from, and ends it hateful apartheid practices.
Turkey, Iran and Hezbollah win while Israel loses. Ultimately, the impact of this decision may come to outweigh President Trump’s historic actions in support of Israel. Regional stability and the security of our allies must be paramount for U.S. policy in the Middle East.
Jack forgets to mention that Syria, Russia and the U.S also win. Everybody wins, but Israel does not lose; Israel merely does not get to destroy another nation out of greed and spite.
American Jewish Congress
What a nasty excuse for a man!
“American Jewish Congress” — ha, ha, … as distinct from the ‘American Goyim Congress’ charade. They that control the money control the government etc. Btw, don’t read too much into the “Dear The Saker” — it’s just an automated mailing list (to millions) that no doubt on which “The Saker” was entered as the email subscriber’s name.
In addition to all that you recount, what to me is most annoying and extraordinarly is that this guy seems to think he is actually a branch of the American governemtn. Who the hell is he and his obnoxious organziatoin to “disapprove” of actions taken by the US President. Obviously, anyone can disapprove of the actions of elected officials, but this man’s tone and choice of sentiments to express betray a megalomanical conviction that the views of the AJC must be heeded by the US president.
It is also beyond vile that Rosen has no thought whatsoever for the actual country where the fighting has been raging. Syria is just a chunk of land that is in the way for Israel. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that Israel has plans for “settling” portions or all of Syria with Jewish colonists/settlers. The West Bank just isn’t big enough. Indeed the Jewish settlers on the West Bank are almost exactly analogous with the Volksdeutsche who were brought in to settle a large chunk of Poland. The Poles, too, were turfed out, most of them to concentration camps. How different in essence is Gaza (and other refugee camps) from a concentration camp?
It is really time for a smackdown of this strutting Zionist cockrel, and I sure hope Trump delivers one. Something like, “Shut up, you ingrate. How dare you threaten me?”
don’t worry the idiots in Australia are coming to their rescue.
Yes, it’s always only about israeli interests with these traitors.
All the racial Nationalists are losing. They talk to each other and develop a Group narcissist bubble, They get very subjective and the fanatics take over. This results in delusional thinking, whether it is the Nazis, the various Kurd factions or the Israelis. People living in a delusional fantasy world are unable to assess facts very well.
A very Narcissistic leader takes over and a personality cult ensues. The Israeli’s can not form a government because the Likud Party has become a Netanyahoo personality cult. All the Zionists including the Christian Zionists are looking crazier and crazier by the day.
It shows why Gen Mattias was unfit to be a general, and delayed sane US thinking about Syria for 2 years, as Mattis defied Pres. Trump and ran his own foreign policy for years.
Excellent analysis John. Thank you.
This message is an indication to the American jewish that support for Trump is probably terminated. They will have to find another champion for next year election.
“American jewish” – no
American zionists – yes
Not all Jews are zionists.
Perhaps the esteemed Mr. Rosen should rename his group.
It strikes me as odd that such an organization calls on all Jews to act in unison, but then retreats behind the Zionist label when convenient.
Very true, but the ‘antisemitism’ industry infers the opposite when it demands that the Sabbat Goyim ban anti-Zionism as ‘antisemitism’.
Oh the utter hypocrisy of scant crocodile tears over the demise of Kurdo-Israelistan and the me-me-me-me blustering faux victimology of this letter.! Is this man obliquely threatening Trump with the ominous, “.. the impact of this decision may come to outweigh…”.? 3 Billion plus a year in military grants, transfer of the US embassy to Jerusalem, profession of the Golan Heights as part of Israel is just not enough, is it?
Maybe since Trump seems to be publishing erstwhile private conversations between world leaders, he should do a bit of tattling on the pseudo friends of the USA in Israel.
Teranam 13…. Couldn’t agree with you more, particularly the use of the words ‘crocodile tears’ and ‘faux victimology’.
You should post some tissues to Jack and his gang.
Along with a suggestion that he find 50c and call someone who give a toss.
Who the eff do they think they are!!
Suddenly we believe that the Israel lobby is truthful?—just because they say words that incite glee?
Turkey can easily be provoked into a full scale war, as they are madmen; when such occurs, Hezbollah and Iran will inevitably be targeted; the Russian contingent is undoubtedly on tiptoes, seeking every avenue to appease. This is a hybrid war, aiming at the throat, at the jugular, because the red blood of passions destroys reason, gloating over imagined victory in this case.
So, what had been dismissed as mere conspiracy theory is not conspiracy theory after all?!
The tone of the letter is also very telling.
From the American Jewish Congress website:
“For the past century, the American Jewish Congress has worked to promote Jewish rights in America as well as strengthen the ties between the United States and Israel. We are committed to bringing new ideas to both traditional and current problems experienced by Jews and Israelis and we will continue to combat those who threaten world peace and security.”
Jack Rosen, President
Again, very telling. If Israel were replaced by Russian and Jews by Orthodox would it be in the foreign agent list?
Suggest people to check out the website.
Thank you Saker for all the work you are doing.
Donc, M. Rosen admet qu’Israël n’a aucun problème avec les Al Nusra et Al Qaida installés en Syrie: Voilà une solution pour les Européens apeurés par les évasions des prisonniers des Kurdes et ceux qui restent encore sans qu’on sache quoi en faire: les déménager en Israël où ils seront semble-t-il bien accueillis…..?
So, Mr. Rosen admits that Israel has no problem with the Al Nusra and Al Qaida living in Syria: Here is a solution for the Europeans frightened by the escapes of the prisoners of the Kurds and those who remain still without one knowing what to do: move to Israel where they will be welcomed … ..?
Hah! That is a beautiful plan! I am pretty sure it would work very well as booth belong to the same kind who only happens to be branded differently.
Good old Hutzpah! Nothing like reminding everyone that little Izzie is the centre of the world. Never mind that 20 million Syrians and 7 million Lebanese have managed to fight off a coalition of existential enemies from 700 million strong NATZO. Not a tear for the half million innocent Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqi, Iranians and Russians caught up in NATZO’s evil designs. No! just weep for poor little Izzie — for me! me! me!
“as a result of this decision [many millions of people] win while Israel loses.”
The writers of this U$ Dual-Citizen tearjerker are wrong: Israel does no lose — only the Zionazi component of Israel loses. Little Izzie may yet learn some healthy humility: being the self-styled Chosen does not give a tiny minority the right to ride rough over God’s other people, desecrate the Holy Land and break the Ten Commandments.
“God desires only that you come to Him with clean hands and a pure heart” — the prophet Jeremiah.
Correction: Jeremiah said a “contrite” heart ie, one that has been humbled and recognizes its sins.
All this relentless MSM rant 24/7 for more than a week about Kurds being abandoned and will get slaughtered by Turks… A few know Turkey had a Kurdish president in 1989. We are talking about a 15-20% minority getting a president of their own.
Too bad for Israel there is a president in US who says America first instead of Israel first. Cry me a river. They lost Syria, Iraq, and Yemen to Iran in the span of a few years because of reckless and hubristic policies. And now they got UAE and Saudi Arabia on their side? Saudi Arabia, the country where they punish criminals with crucifixion? What a joke. The Persian noose around Israel’s neck is tightening, and Israel is screaming.
Donald Trump. The last patriot left in America. Who knew.
In his own words, https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1184519735775354880 So many balls to juggle and he still finds time to troll.
…my “middle finger” for them, LOL..!!! (…I´m sorry…)
The AJC sure is confident of themselves. They write “threat to Israel”, nothing about threat to the US. And I thought Americans should care about America’s security.. imagine how brainwashed some people must be, that the AJC doesn’t even bother adding something about “America’s security” in there. Nope just straight up “help Israel!”.
The USA is just property, nothing more, for these Fifth Columnists.
dry your eyes.
Save your tears for a time, and I do hope it never happens, when their bombs fall on your country instead of yours on theirs.
Most of you are not aware that Kurdistan been sending oil to Israel at $5.00 per barrel
Israel promised the Kurds help through the USA
American Jewish Congress
745 5th Ave., 30th Floor
New York NY 10151 United States
Dear Mr. Jack Rosen, please take my humble piece of advice: Jump.
Why don’t you not issue death threats?
Have mercy on an avowed anti-semite, pretty please.
It’s more of a suicide request, than a death threat.
Correct, Mulga. But first and foremost, it’s a display of the ’A’ syndrome, if you know what I mean. Jack Rosen, if he reads our feedback, wil have zero problems recognizing it, LOL.
The Jewish State together with the USA is a terror force that has stirred up the Middle East for far too long. It’s time for their ability to strike wherever they like be curtailed. They are the lowest of the low & deserve destruction.
What are the Zionists doing meddling in America’ foreign policies?
Also, keep your hands off our tax dollars.
Israel is America’s parasite.
The Zionazis don’t ‘meddle’. Get real-they CONTROL.
This is what the Jewish congress really means:
We the ZIONIST Jews opposes Trumps decision to withdraw US aggression against Syria and strongly condemns Russia’s actions to make the Syrian refugee’s homeland a secure place to return to.
In addition to hampering Kurdish transgression on Syrian oilfields (The Kurds are an Israeli pawn) it also poses a great threat to Israeli plans to rule the region.
Israel shares a border with Syria and is an accomplice in the Proxy war against Syria.
Syria has been liberated by the help of Hezbollah and Iranian Shiite Moslems, which Israel and Saudi Arabia has been attacking for years.
As a result of the US Proxy Army’s defeat of ISIS and AlCIAda Sunni Moslems, Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah win, while Israel loses.
Regional instability for the security of ZION must be kept paramount in U.S. policy.
Rest assure, Trumps decision will outweigh he’s support for Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.