PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. That’s so nice. The United States has many great diplomats, but there is truly no better ambassador for our country than our beautiful First Lady, Melania. Thank you, Melania. That was very nice. (Applause.)
We’ve come to your nation to deliver a very important message: America loves Poland, and America loves the Polish people. (Applause.) Thank you.
The Poles have not only greatly enriched this region, but Polish-Americans have also greatly enriched the United States, and I was truly proud to have their support in the 2016 election. (Applause.)
It is a profound honor to stand in this city, by this monument to the Warsaw Uprising, and to address the Polish nation that so many generations have dreamed of: a Poland that is safe, strong, and free. (Applause.)
President Duda and your wonderful First Lady, Agata, have welcomed us with the tremendous warmth and kindness for which Poland is known around the world. Thank you. (Applause.) My sincere — and I mean sincerely thank both of them. And to Prime Minister Syzdlo, a very special thanks also. (Applause.)
We are also pleased that former President Leck Walesa, so famous for leading the Solidarity Movement, has joined us today, also. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
On behalf of all Americans, let me also thank the entire Polish people for the generosity you have shown in welcoming our soldiers to your country. These soldiers are not only brave defenders of freedom, but also symbols of America’s commitment to your security and your place in a strong and democratic Europe.
We are proudly joined on stage by American, Polish, British, and Romanian soldiers. Thank you. (Applause.) Thank you. Great job.
President Duda and I have just come from an incredibly successful meeting with the leaders participating in the Three Seas Initiative. To the citizens of this great region, America is eager to expand our partnership with you. We welcome stronger ties of trade and commerce as you grow your economies. And we are committed to securing your access to alternate sources of energy, so Poland and its neighbors are never again held hostage to a single supplier of energy. (Applause.)
Mr. President, I congratulate you, along with the President of Croatia, on your leadership of this historic Three Seas Initiative. Thank you. (Applause.)
This is my first visit to Central Europe as President, and I am thrilled that it could be right here at this magnificent, beautiful piece of land. It is beautiful. (Applause.) Poland is the geographic heart of Europe, but more importantly, in the Polish people, we see the soul of Europe. Your nation is great because your spirit is great and your spirit is strong. (Applause.)
For two centuries, Poland suffered constant and brutal attacks. But while Poland could be invaded and occupied, and its borders even erased from the map, it could never be erased from history or from your hearts. In those dark days, you have lost your land but you never lost your pride. (Applause.)
So it is with true admiration that I can say today, that from the farms and villages of your countryside to the cathedrals and squares of your great cities, Poland lives, Poland prospers, and Poland prevails. (Applause.)
Despite every effort to transform you, oppress you, or destroy you, you endured and overcame. You are the proud nation of Copernicus — think of that — (applause) — Chopin, Saint John Paul II. Poland is a land of great heroes. (Applause.) And you are a people who know the true value of what you defend.
The triumph of the Polish spirit over centuries of hardship gives us all hope for a future in which good conquers evil, and peace achieves victory over war.
For Americans, Poland has been a symbol of hope since the beginning of our nation. Polish heroes and American patriots fought side by side in our War of Independence and in many wars that followed. Our soldiers still serve together today in Afghanistan and Iraq, combatting the enemies of all civilization.
For America’s part, we have never given up on freedom and independence as the right and destiny of the Polish people, and we never, ever will. (Applause.)
Our two countries share a special bond forged by unique histories and national characters. It’s a fellowship that exists only among people who have fought and bled and died for freedom. (Applause.)
The signs of this friendship stand in our nation’s capital. Just steps from the White House, we’ve raised statues of men with names like Pułaski and Kościuszko. (Applause.) The same is true in Warsaw, where street signs carry the name of George Washington, and a monument stands to one of the world’s greatest heroes, Ronald Reagan. (Applause.)
And so I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization. (Applause.) The story of Poland is the story of a people who have never lost hope, who have never been broken, and who have never, ever forgotten who they are. (Applause)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Such a great honor. This is a nation more than one thousand years old. Your borders were erased for more than a century and only restored just one century ago.
In 1920, in the Miracle of Vistula, Poland stopped the Soviet army bent on European conquest. (Applause.) Then, 19 years later in 1939, you were invaded yet again, this time by Nazi Germany from the west and the Soviet Union from the east. That’s trouble. That’s tough.
Under a double occupation the Polish people endured evils beyond description: the Katyn forest massacre, the occupations, the Holocaust, the Warsaw Ghetto and the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the destruction of this beautiful capital city, and the deaths of nearly one in five Polish people. A vibrant Jewish population — the largest in Europe — was reduced to almost nothing after the Nazis systematically murdered millions of Poland’s Jewish citizens, along with countless others, during that brutal occupation.
In the summer of 1944, the Nazi and Soviet armies were preparing for a terrible and bloody battle right here in Warsaw. Amid that hell on earth, the citizens of Poland rose up to defend their homeland. I am deeply honored to be joined on stage today by veterans and heroes of the Warsaw Uprising. (Applause.)
PRESIDENT TRUMP: What great spirit. We salute your noble sacrifice and we pledge to always remember your fight for Poland and for freedom. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause.)
This monument reminds us that more than 150,000 Poles died during that desperate struggle to overthrow oppression.
From the other side of the river, the Soviet armed forces stopped and waited. They watched as the Nazis ruthlessly destroyed the city, viciously murdering men, women, and children. They tried to destroy this nation forever by shattering its will to survive.
But there is a courage and a strength deep in the Polish character that no one could destroy. The Polish martyr, Bishop Michael Kozal, said it well: “More horrifying than a defeat of arms is a collapse of the human spirit.”
Through four decades of communist rule, Poland and the other captive nations of Europe endured a brutal campaign to demolish freedom, your faith, your laws, your history, your identity — indeed the very essence of your culture and your humanity. Yet, through it all, you never lost that spirit. (Applause.) Your oppressors tried to break you, but Poland could not be broken. (Applause.)
And when the day came on June 2nd, 1979, and one million Poles gathered around Victory Square for their very first mass with their Polish Pope, that day, every communist in Warsaw must have known that their oppressive system would soon come crashing down. (Applause.) They must have known it at the exact moment during Pope John Paul II’s sermon when a million Polish men, women, and children suddenly raised their voices in a single prayer. A million Polish people did not ask for wealth. They did not ask for privilege. Instead, one million Poles sang three simple words: “We Want God.” (Applause.)
In those words, the Polish people recalled the promise of a better future. They found new courage to face down their oppressors, and they found the words to declare that Poland would be Poland once again.
As I stand here today before this incredible crowd, this faithful nation, we can still hear those voices that echo through history. Their message is as true today as ever. The people of Poland, the people of America, and the people of Europe still cry out “We want God.” (Applause.)
Together, with Pope John Paul II, the Poles reasserted their identity as a nation devoted to God. And with that powerful declaration of who you are, you came to understand what to do and how to live. You stood in solidarity against oppression, against a lawless secret police, against a cruel and wicked system that impoverished your cities and your souls. And you won. Poland prevailed. Poland will always prevail. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you. You were supported in that victory over communism by a strong alliance of free nations in the West that defied tyranny. Now, among the most committed members of the NATO Alliance, Poland has resumed its place as a leading nation of a Europe that is strong, whole, and free.
A strong Poland is a blessing to the nations of Europe, and they know that. A strong Europe is a blessing to the West and to the world. (Applause.) One hundred years after the entry of American forces into World War I, the transatlantic bond between the United States and Europe is as strong as ever and maybe, in many ways, even stronger.
This continent no longer confronts the specter of communism. But today we’re in the West, and we have to say there are dire threats to our security and to our way of life. You see what’s happening out there. They are threats. We will confront them. We will win. But they are threats. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: We are confronted by another oppressive ideology — one that seeks to export terrorism and extremism all around the globe. America and Europe have suffered one terror attack after another. We’re going to get it to stop. (Applause.)
During a historic gathering in Saudi Arabia, I called on the leaders of more than 50 Muslim nations to join together to drive out this menace which threatens all of humanity. We must stand united against these shared enemies to strip them of their territory and their funding, and their networks, and any form of ideological support that they may have. While we will always welcome new citizens who share our values and love our people, our borders will always be closed to terrorism and extremism of any kind. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: We are fighting hard against radical Islamic terrorism, and we will prevail. We cannot accept those who reject our values and who use hatred to justify violence against the innocent.
Today, the West is also confronted by the powers that seek to test our will, undermine our confidence, and challenge our interests. To meet new forms of aggression, including propaganda, financial crimes, and cyberwarfare, we must adapt our alliance to compete effectively in new ways and on all new battlefields.
We urge Russia to cease its destabilizing activities in Ukraine and elsewhere, and its support for hostile regimes — including Syria and Iran — and to instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and in defense of civilization itself. (Applause.)
Finally, on both sides of the Atlantic, our citizens are confronted by yet another danger — one firmly within our control. This danger is invisible to some but familiar to the Poles: the steady creep of government bureaucracy that drains the vitality and wealth of the people. The West became great not because of paperwork and regulations but because people were allowed to chase their dreams and pursue their destinies.
Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to confront forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the South or the East, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are. (Applause.) If left unchecked, these forces will undermine our courage, sap our spirit, and weaken our will to defend ourselves and our societies.
But just as our adversaries and enemies of the past learned here in Poland, we know that these forces, too, are doomed to fail if we want them to fail. And we do, indeed, want them to fail. (Applause.) They are doomed not only because our alliance is strong, our countries are resilient, and our power is unmatched. Through all of that, you have to say everything is true. Our adversaries, however, are doomed because we will never forget who we are. And if we don’t forget who are, we just can’t be beaten. Americans will never forget. The nations of Europe will never forget. We are the fastest and the greatest community. There is nothing like our community of nations. The world has never known anything like our community of nations.
We write symphonies. We pursue innovation. We celebrate our ancient heroes, embrace our timeless traditions and customs, and always seek to explore and discover brand-new frontiers.
We reward brilliance. We strive for excellence, and cherish inspiring works of art that honor God. We treasure the rule of law and protect the right to free speech and free expression. (Applause.)
We empower women as pillars of our society and of our success. We put faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, at the center of our lives. And we debate everything. We challenge everything. We seek to know everything so that we can better know ourselves. (Applause.)
And above all, we value the dignity of every human life, protect the rights of every person, and share the hope of every soul to live in freedom. That is who we are. Those are the priceless ties that bind us together as nations, as allies, and as a civilization.
What we have, what we inherited from our — and you know this better than anybody, and you see it today with this incredible group of people — what we’ve inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again. So we cannot fail.
This great community of nations has something else in common: In every one of them, it is the people, not the powerful, who have always formed the foundation of freedom and the cornerstone of our defense. The people have been that foundation here in Poland — as they were right here in Warsaw — and they were the foundation from the very, very beginning in America.
Our citizens did not win freedom together, did not survive horrors together, did not face down evil together, only to lose our freedom to a lack of pride and confidence in our values. We did not and we will not. We will never back down. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: As long as we know our history, we will know how to build our future. Americans know that a strong alliance of free, sovereign and independent nations is the best defense for our freedoms and for our interests. That is why my administration has demanded that all members of NATO finally meet their full and fair financial obligation.
As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have begun to pour into NATO. In fact, people are shocked. But billions and billions of dollars more are coming in from countries that, in my opinion, would not have been paying so quickly.
To those who would criticize our tough stance, I would point out that the United States has demonstrated not merely with words but with its actions that we stand firmly behind Article 5, the mutual defense commitment. (Applause.)
Words are easy, but actions are what matters. And for its own protection — and you know this, everybody knows this, everybody has to know this — Europe must do more. Europe must demonstrate that it believes in its future by investing its money to secure that future.
That is why we applaud Poland for its decision to move forward this week on acquiring from the United States the battle-tested Patriot air and missile defense system — the best anywhere in the world. (Applause.) That is also why we salute the Polish people for being one of the NATO countries that has actually achieved the benchmark for investment in our common defense. Thank you. Thank you, Poland. I must tell you, the example you set is truly magnificent, and we applaud Poland. Thank you. (Applause.)
We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it? (Applause.)
We can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere on Earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive. (Applause.) If anyone forgets the critical importance of these things, let them come to one country that never has. Let them come to Poland. (Applause.) And let them come here, to Warsaw, and learn the story of the Warsaw Uprising.
When they do, they should learn about Jerusalem Avenue. In August of 1944, Jerusalem Avenue was one of the main roads running east and west through this city, just as it is today.
Control of that road was crucially important to both sides in the battle for Warsaw. The German military wanted it as their most direct route to move troops and to form a very strong front. And for the Polish Home Army, the ability to pass north and south across that street was critical to keep the center of the city, and the Uprising itself, from being split apart and destroyed.
Every night, the Poles put up sandbags amid machine gun fire — and it was horrendous fire — to protect a narrow passage across Jerusalem Avenue. Every day, the enemy forces knocked them down again and again and again. Then the Poles dug a trench. Finally, they built a barricade. And the brave Polish fighters began to flow across Jerusalem Avenue. That narrow passageway, just a few feet wide, was the fragile link that kept the Uprising alive.
Between its walls, a constant stream of citizens and freedom fighters made their perilous, just perilous, sprints. They ran across that street, they ran through that street, they ran under that street — all to defend this city. “The far side was several yards away,” recalled one young Polish woman named Greta. That mortality and that life was so important to her. In fact, she said, “The mortally dangerous sector of the street was soaked in the blood. It was the blood of messengers, liaison girls, and couriers.”
Nazi snipers shot at anybody who crossed. Anybody who crossed, they were being shot at. Their soldiers burned every building on the street, and they used the Poles as human shields for their tanks in their effort to capture Jerusalem Avenue. The enemy never ceased its relentless assault on that small outpost of civilization. And the Poles never ceased its defense.
The Jerusalem Avenue passage required constant protection, repair, and reinforcement, but the will of its defenders did not waver, even in the face of death. And to the last days of the Uprising, the fragile crossing never, ever failed. It was never, ever forgotten. It was kept open by the Polish people.
The memories of those who perished in the Warsaw Uprising cry out across the decades, and few are clearer than the memories of those who died to build and defend the Jerusalem Avenue crossing. Those heroes remind us that the West was saved with the blood of patriots; that each generation must rise up and play their part in its defense — (applause) — and that every foot of ground, and every last inch of civilization, is worth defending with your life.
Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield — it begins with our minds, our wills, and our souls. Today, the ties that unite our civilization are no less vital, and demand no less defense, than that bare shred of land on which the hope of Poland once totally rested. Our freedom, our civilization, and our survival depend on these bonds of history, culture, and memory.
And today as ever, Poland is in our heart, and its people are in that fight. (Applause.) Just as Poland could not be broken, I declare today for the world to hear that the West will never, ever be broken. Our values will prevail. Our people will thrive. And our civilization will triumph. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you. So, together, let us all fight like the Poles — for family, for freedom, for country, and for God.
Thank you. God Bless You. God bless the Polish people. God bless our allies. And God bless the United States of America.
Thank you. God bless you. Thank you very much. (Applause.)
Yes, certainly don’t mention the fact that it was the West that was allied to Stalin who allowed the slaughter of the Warsaw defenders, that commited the Katyn massacre, the West that sold out Poland and the government in exile at Yalta to the Soviets.
Haha, keep babbling Westish for all I care. Stalin gave the Psheks significant swathes of German territory and, most notably, gave these undeserving folks their most prosperous time ever, mind you.
Katyn, forget about it. Even if it’s hard for Polaks to fathom, the fact of the matter is that soldiers do die when there are giant conflagrations going on. What’s the problem?
Warsaw Uprising was anti-Soviet event.
Even reading Wikipedia and THINKING of what you are reading proves it.
Now, how evil those Soviets were that they refused to implement anti-Soviet action instead of Poles themselves! Never forgive, never forget!
This was very, very hard to watch/read, to endure this speech is bordering masochism. I have rarely been confronted by a discourse with such a stunning level of hypocrisy. What attracted my attention, was the fact that Trump is now urging Russia to join the community of responsible nations. Either Trump was trying very hard to please his audience or it seems like the gloves are coming off. Trumps claim that one could see in the Polish people the soul of Europe is totally off the mark. Western and Southern Europeans are not nearly as Russophobic on the one hand and on the other hand they are unfortunately not even coming close to defending themselves from the weapon of mass migration.
I, along with the CIA junta in Kiev, prefer to see the soul of Europe as The Ukrainians. Its black soul. The Poles have proven themselves to be blanc mange with sneaky shards of glass in it.
” Western and Southern Europeans are not nearly as Russophob”
-That is true for sure, Russopbobic in western and southern Europeans is largely limited to the corrupt journalist and politicians, only a few E.European countries actually has a russophobic population.
” What attracted my attention, was the fact that Trump is now urging Russia to join the community of responsible nations”
-Dont worry about that, the mention of Russia was very little and of no relevance, if you are going to compare to positive and negative things Trump said about Russia he has said thing a 100 times more positive, if you want to cherry pick you could make Trump out to be a russophobe, but overall he is mostly pro-Russian, what really matters is the meeting now between Trump and Putin, if you worry about Trump, I can tell you that when Trump got into office, the first thing he did was order his team to get the paperwork ready to revoke all sanctions on Russia, that is why the democrats now in USA are desperately trying to codify the anti-Russian sanctions into law to prevent Trump from revoking them.
“This was very, very hard to watch/read, to endure this speech is bordering masochism. I have rarely been confronted by a discourse with such a stunning level of hypocrisy. ”
Right. But if you want more on that, daily, just watch CNN. Sometimes I am so masochist to watch it, trying to strengthen my immunity system regarding the bias, blatant lies and evil itself.
“Europe must demonstrate that it believes in its future by investing its money to secure that future.
That is why we applaud Poland for its decision to move forward this week on acquiring from the United States the battle-tested Patriot air and missile defense system — the best anywhere in the world. ”
President Trump has the advantage of not hiding himself very efficiently – if he even tries to hide :-)
He is not so difficult to read.
“We urge Russia to cease its destabilizing activities in Ukraine and elsewhere, and its support for hostile regimes — including Syria and Iran — and to instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and in defense of civilization itself.”
This part is less funny. Destabilizing activities of America in Ukraine end 2013 and beginning 2014 are well documented. As for hostile regimes, Saudia Arabia comes to mind, and to Europe it’s a much clearer danger than Iran, while Syria is no danger at all.
Trump has aligned himself on the Deep State here.
Fortunately… he may not be so efficient aligning himself. We’ll see what happens, but I can easily imagine him being negligent in his alignment duties…
“Trump has aligned himself on the Deep State here.”
-Trump lacks the skill to totally oppose the deep state, either he is just weak or the deep state is much more powerful in USA then we can imagine.
But I can tell you, when Trump entered the white-house the first thing he did was order his team to get ready to revoke all anti-Russian sanctions, that is why the democrats now are trying to codify the anti-Russian sanctions into law, so Trump will not be able to revoke them.
So you don’t need to worry about Trump, he is pro-Russian or at-least, pro-American and understands that Russia is a friend, the question is just how much he can resist the deep state. I know thesaker and others have already declared Trump to be a failure, but I don’t agree, I feel Trump is slowing winning ground against the deep state, and there is still almost 4 years to go, Putin did not kick out the liberal deep state on his first few months either.. And still hasn’t fully..
Thanks for your insights. Some of my kinfolk and I –Polish cousins included–couldn’t help but notice the noble phrase “we are committed to securing your access to alternative sources of energy”, which appears to be American LNG-liquefied natural gas –which is how much more expensive than the natural gas that flows thru the pipelines from Russia? I suppose in Trump’s mind the natural gas that is twice as expensive is twice as much HOT AIR, yes?– Which is right up his alley –and the good people of Poland who were paid to show up politely clap as they realize their utility bills are going up 100%? The people actually were able to vote on this? But no worries, in those cold, cold European winters it will be such a comfort to know they are burning American gas instead of Russian gaz. Now moving on to other matters: speaking of Russia’s “support for hostile regimes, including Syria and Iran”–perhaps someday President 2X Hot Air In His Trumpet will give us specific examples of exactly why Syria and Iran are “hostile regimes”. I wonder if these countries are “hostile” because they stand in the way of the “Greater Israel Project”?
…and if you believe all that I have some bridges that might interest you.
I was reading this while having supper and I almost didn’t eat it – this speech just destroyed my appetite but I continued because my daughter made a very good dish.
I have never seen such pandering in any speech before! Is he brown-nosing or what?!?!??!
The detailed, point by point rebuttal of the historical fallacies that Trump delivered in his speech.
1. “Poland defeated the Society Army in 1920”
Following the revolution, all the world empires and many nations attacked and invaded Russia.
The various Allies are estimated to have sent the following strength of troops to the Russian campaign (from Wikipedia):
• 50,000 Czechoslovaks (along the Trans-Siberian railway)
• 28,000 Japanese (later increased to 70,000, all in the Vladivostok region)
• 24,000 Greeks (in Crimea and the Ukraine)
• 13,000 Americans (in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions)
• 12,000 Poles ( in Crimea and the Ukraine and Belorussia)
• 4,000 Canadians (in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions)
• 4,000 Serbs (in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions)
• 4,000 Romanians (in Arkhangelsk region)
• 2,000 Italians (in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions)
• 1,600 British (in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions)
• 760 French (mostly in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions
Altogether, over 1,000,000 Western allied troops invaded Russia.
Churchill’s Crusade: The British Invasion of Russia, 1918-1920
US and Allied Wars in Russia, 1918-22
1918: American troops land at Archangel
Simultaneously with the invasions, Europe and the US declared the economic blockade of Russia.
Poland was one of the first to attack Russia and to occupied Ukraine and Belorussia. Newly formed Red Army, not the Soviet Army, liberated the parts of Russia that was occupied by Poland.
2. The Warsaw uprising was done without agreement with the Soviet command. Poles wanted to liberate their capital before the Soviet army would come. They didn’t consider that the Soviet Army was exhausted from the summer complain, and needed time to regroup. Germans used the uprising to slaughter 200,000 Poles, but for some reason it was Stalin’s fault. Why don’t they blame the Americans for not helping them?
3. Nothing is being said about Poland and Germany occupying and dividing Czechoslovakia.
4. Not a word was said about Ukrainian nationalists UNA-UNCO slaughter of the Poles.
I cannot even give a decent English language source, because everything on the subject is a lie and anti-Russian propaganda.
If several years ago, there were articles somehow reflecting the facts, now everything has been edited out.
In regard of Trump “inviting” Russia to give up our national interests and to join “civilized nations.” Again, they are calling us uncivilized.
You have a totally warped view of History .Poland did not Exist for 123 years so how could they =as you claim – invade Russia. When Russia along with Germany and Austria were responsible for the Partition of Polska? The Soviet Army did not cross the Vistula because the lines of dividing Europe had already been drawn .Do you remember that? What did the Soviet NKVD do to the AK .They murdered them – once again why ? Who did Stalin put in charge to murder the AK and quell all dissent ,well non other than Jakub Berman a Jew . Isn’t that strange after what happened in Auswitch.
Since 1815, Poland was a part of the Russian Empire. It had its own language, constitution, army, and it was allowed to practice its religion.
In 1915, Poland was occupied by Kaiser Germany, and in 1917 Poland declared independence and immediately attacked and invaded Russia. it’s had its own army, remember?
In 1920 the war crimes conducted by the Poles on the territory of Russia exceeded Germans. Images and facts here.
It was the Poles who invented the system of torture in their death camps on the territory of Russia. Latter Germans just copied it.
The violence of Poles against Russians is very well documented.
The Polish troops set up the death camps in Russia, that historically preceded to the death camps that Poles set up on their territory during the WWII.
The only reason, Poland wasn’t charged with the war crimes during the WWII was because it became the part of the Warsaw treaty.
Despite the fact that Poland was an aggressor in the WWII, it still occupies large territories of Germany.
• Gdańsk, Lębork and Bytów.
• Lubusz Land.
• Parts of Greater Poland and Kuyavia.
• Warmia and Masuria.
Poland in its current borders is a creation of Stalin.
Another fact, a nuclear conflict between NATO members, the US and Russia, will most likely erase Poland from the face of the earth. In this case, Poland most likely will be melted into 5 feet of radioactive glass.
Since 1792 Polska was partitioned by Russia and accomplices . Regardless of the so called Russia rights that you claim .Poland was still occupied ,from my travels it was the Austrians that were most lenient towards Polska .The city of Lemburg is but one example . As far as Polska being an aggressor during WWII ,You’re completely -out to lunch- on that one .I do believe that the Molotov – Ribbentrop pact clarifies that issue . You mention the realignment of the borders especially with Germany in particular . If you have an issue with that ,please resort to the CURSON line agreement for clarifications . Now I will state something . First of all I use my real name . Secondly I do believe that Polska is making a grave mistake by allowing this Anglocon and Ziocon influence . Yet I also believe that your deliberate misrepresentation of historical facts is a detriment to rapprochement.
As far as Polska being an aggressor during WWII ,You’re completely -out to lunch- on that one .I do believe that the Molotov – Ribbentrop pact clarifies that issue
Let’s see – which came first:
The German Soviet Non Aggression Treaty of August 1939 or
The German Polish Non-Aggression Treaty of January 1934
why did Churchill say that Poland was the “greedy hyena of Europe”? Could it be because Poland participated with Germany in the partition of the Czechoslovak state?
Are you having a selective memory problem?
Russian government declassified documentary materials that show the war crimes committed by the members of the Polish armed underground against the soldiers and officers of the Red Army.
These documents also reveals the attitude of the Soviet leadership in this regard.
The original documents from many Russian archives published for the first time show that the Polish underground not only attacked and plundered the soldiers and officers of the red Army, but before the execution they torturing captured soldiers. Killing of soldiers, representatives of the Soviet government, numerous acts of sabotage, destruction of transport routes,
communication lines and forward positions of commanders of the fronts have turned into a real war against the personnel of the Red Army and was a flagrant violation of the laws of war.
Documents contain data about war crimes committed by the units of the AK Armia Krajowa and NSZ Narodowe Siły Zbrojne, the names of their victims, and only approximate numbers of dead and wounded. These materials can be neither denied nor rejected. They indicate that the participants of the Polish armed underground violated the rules of war and committed prohibited under international law war crimes against the servicemen of the Red Army.
First time ever published materials are supplemented by previously unknown reports of the military authorities. The previously unpublished correspondence between J. V. Stalin and F. D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, and a specific fragment from a recording session of the Yalta conference of the allies from February 6, 1945, on the situation behind the front lines of the Red Army, supplemented with the fact sheets and summaries of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Belarusian front, the 1st Ukrainian front on the facts of attacks on Soviet troops on the territory of Poland in 1944-1945.
Messages of counterintelligence “SMERSH” of the fronts are complemented by excerpts from the letters of Soviet soldiers and officers, collected military censorship to illustrate a general picture of what was happening on Polish territory.
Reports of the Political departments of the fronts of the chief Advisor of the NKVD of the USSR under the Ministry of public security of Poland and Main political Directorate of the red Army are supplemented by message-N.. Bulganin, G. M. Malenkov and personally I. V. Stalin.
Full version of this text is on the page http://archives.ru/library/poland-1944-1945/index.shtml
Hello Scott. What do you expect the resistance movements to do when they are Occupied sit back and do nothing .Russia had its share of resistance movements and its Partisan groups and so did other European Countries at the time . As far as your claims of illegality go don’t you think that the Katyn massacre was illegal . I have been opposed to Polska joining NATO and I am definitely against the Missile Shield in northern Poland and also the two countries -especially Poland – should try and improve relations with the Russian Federation the economic benefits would be worth a rapprochement.
Hello Saker. So why did the Soviet Army invade Poland in September of 39 . They didn’t go there to spread the love. As far a Churchill goes he said many thinks during WWII one of which was “So much is owed by so many to so few’ .In reference to the Battle of Britain including 303 squadron.
LOL!!! You Polaks are really funny. Wasn’t it territory you were occupying?
I congratulate you for your calm answers to the anti-Polish and pro-Stalinian drivel that is too often commonplace on this site. I understand that for a Pole, keeping one’s quietness in front of this must be more difficult than for a French like me.
I totally agree of course that anti-Russian propaganda must be discontinued at once and pan-European rapprochement should be the objective, that is from Portugal and Ireland to Russia and Ukraine. Which doesn’t mean that misrepresentation of History is acceptable.
Merci Beaucoup Alexis.
Oui, j’avoue bien que Staline était un imbécile et un froussard. À quoi bon donner des territoires allemands aux Pchèques? Un partage final de la Pologne entre l’URSS, l’Allemagne et la Tchécoslovaquie aurait été la solution idéale.
Merci pour votre response . Mais je dirait que c’est plutôt un blagues. Peut-être si vous demander au President Poutine poliment de retourner Vyborg au Finlandais ils va vous accommoder.
Panie Stefanie, Pan też:
Let me add my take on Polish History from non Polish Point of view.
First of all I wan to shock everyone by saying all kings treated their kingdoms as personal property.
Let me refresh Polish history a little:
820 – 1370 Piast Family (basically the only Slavs rulling Poland) (check out the map on page 91 of Księga Królów i Książąt Polskich. This was presummably the best time in Polish history (Rule of Kazimierz Wielki). Then we have French kings of the house of Andegaven, which ended when 11 year old Jadviga was married to Jagiełło ( Lithuanian prince). In between we have some Hungarian kings like Ludwik Węgierski (1370-1382) do you think he was Hungarian by name only? Was Poland still Poland or Hungary? Then Jadwiga Andegaweńska (1384-1399) who unfortunately died at the age of 15 leaving Poland in the hands of Jagiełło, who was officially a Luthuanian Prince but Russian speaking. Question: was his house Polish, Lithuanian or Russian? I say Russian ruller over Lithuania and Poland. Then Elected kings follow (from 1573). See map on page 125 of the same book. In there we have Sueds (Jan Kazimierz, Waza, etc …) Which leads to Swedish invasion. How come Poles do not hate Sueds? In 1674 we have Jan III Sobieski (a Hungarian), who defeated Turks in Vienna. O look, his mother was from the Russian house of Daniłowicz. Next we have the house of Wettynowie whose house ruled until 1772, when Poland got divided between three Germans (Prus – Habsburg from Vienna and – Habsburg’s cousin Cathrine the Great who ruled Russia, who was also from Vienna). Yet Russia gets all the blame. I do not get it why such a selective hatred. Not even a peep about Austrians.
Then we have Napoleon, whom Trump did not mention, but talked about it indirectly. Polish Legions serving Napoleon committed incredible atrocities in Spain (Saragossa?) maybe also in Corsica. Then after Napoleon lost, Polish Legions were transported to America, and this is what Trump was talking about. UsofA have many monuments of Tadeusz Kościuszko and Puławski, but I wonder how many Americans know who they were. Usof A sent those Polish Legions to Philipins as well, where they conducted more atrocities for their new bosses. This is why Trump was saying thank you (three times). I will not say who instigated Powstanie Styczniowe, which was totally unnessasary and yet one more reason to drive anti Russian propaganda. The same thing with Katyń, where the nasty job was done by Tcheka, and Russians get the blame. I will not talk about the handy dandy job Piłsudski did on Russians (Soviets by then), but Lenin decided to sign a very unfavorable piece with Poland to have one less front to fight at. Ribbentrop-Molotov was a smart move, as Stalin knew what was comming, to butt Soviet borders to the river so that German attack would be slowed down a little.
So much for the anti-Russian cry babies.
Hello Anonius . What you are referring too I refer to as the Hapsburg Dating Game . This marriage of Monarchs and their siblings was the standard all over Europe ,not only in Polska .Countries and frontiers were decided by these marriages it was and is no different whether your Polish ,Russian ,British or German for that matter . The Queen of England is German her title is adopted to better fit the British society ,hence the borrowed titled of Windsor. Now you must be aware that there were winners and losers in this Game ,like in any other Game. You mention Vienna and the Polish victory over the Ottomans ,yet you omit that this victory is hidden and hardly any monuments celebrate the Polish effort . I guess the Austrians thanked Polska by conniving to partition the Country .
After enduring that drivel, I’ve reluctantly come to the sobering conclusion that a major war cant be too far off.
There is simply no way for diametrically opposing views like those that exist between the US on its vassels on one hand, and Russia and its allies on the other hand , without catastrophic violence being introduced to resolve the situation, at some point in the not too distance future.
The situation is just untenable.
The constant US violence, lies, its blatant hypocrisy, arrogance, threats and sanctions etc. etc. passed the unbearable mark a long time ago.
Look at the kind of persons that the US keep sending to the UN – warmongers with zero diplomatic skills, who constantly threaten military action and sanctions wrapped in unbridled arrogance.
No one wants war, but when war is being imposed upon you, you dont have much of a choice.
Something will have to give sooner or later to resolve these major disagreements and contradictions.
The triumph of stupidity and pure madness! And this is a prelude for G20 and meeting with Putin? Saker was right, nothing good is possible anymore, they are swimming in vomit. I give up trying to understand such madness, for there is nothing there to understand, just sickness.
I agree, we are not far from the it, not far at all. I think is right time to get myself a bottle of sljivovica and a fat cuban cigar, so when it happens, I can blind myself with it properly.
Trump speech was provided by courtesy of Deep State.
The only way to stop american imperialism is defeating the hegemon. Russia should be working in a weapon to destroy their nuclear capability.
This bully understand only by force and it’s a bad loser.
The tuppence regime is the face of israel without the make up previously used to mask the ugliness of their occupation of the usa. This speech, and the widespread zio-gay promotion of it, especially by israel’s radio pundits on pindo “conservative talk radio”, are to set the stage for an aggressive “trump” at the g-20 meet with Putin.
While trump is tall and fat, he is in fact a wee little man (or boy, rather), and those he is fronting for are of even shorter stature and gender certainty.
Abridged version of Trump’s speech for those who don’t want to bother reading the entire thing: “Like my predecessor, Barack Obama, I am now a full-fledged b!tch for the American Empire and its deep state.”
Thanks, brother. I was just ready to jump over the cliff and read the first sentence of the above highly radioactive material, when I came upon your post, that probably saved my life. Thanks again.
I will not write about the disgust and hypocrisy of this Trump, because there are enough who have wrote about it.
My fascination is in how bad Trump actually reads his speeches off the teleprompter. Besides the bad written speech artistically and technically speaking, Trump reads small short sentences and keeps pausing like a little baby or dog who expects to receive candy or a treat after every sentence he utters. And this consant squeezing of his fingers when indicating on some points and the way he bobs his head and pauses between the sentences just wants you to hope that an elephant falls on his face.
Oh, I agree with others on the global war stuff. The US has to eventually be stopped or destroyed something. Their arrogance makes them believe they will live on forever.
One thing the zionazi/nazi version of history predominant now in the fascist zio-west ignores about the role poland played for them in the 1930s was that poland was actually allied with nazi germany and fascist italy in spain supporting the sacred right wing idol, franco. While the capitist oligarchs running the west coertly supported franco, germany, italy and poland overtly sent arms to franco. The reward for polish loyalty to the nazi/fascist cause is well known.
The other mostly unknown historical reality is that despite all the recent hand wringing and tears she’d for polish Jews at the hands of the nazis, poland in the late 1930s was equally anti-jew, and officially legally and politically probably more than nazi germany was.
Nothing has changed, the poles are still offering their collective, catholic duped arses to the fascist subhumanoid elements. Centuies ago there was a saying ” stupid as a penheneg”, while these died out centuies ago, current poles have taken the role seamlessly.
The “Catholic” nations (more properly called Papist) have a very long history of institutionalized evil. The Holy Roman Empire (three lies for the price of one), Spain, France, Venice, the Northern Crusades, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Uniatism and murder of Orthodox who refused to apostatize, the Croatian Ustase, the Ukro Uniate Banderists … I’m sure I’m missing some but you get the gist. Modern Poland is frankly too pathetic to rise to the heights of murder and mayhem of the “Great Western Catholic nations” of yesteryear, слава Богу.
“Nothing has changed, the Poles are still offering their collective, catholic duped arses to the fascist subhumanoid elements.”
Very true, vt. And then haughtily view this vileness as worthy of everybody’s praise and awe. Funny how the Pindos get away with all their Polish jokes. Might be too much of intellectual challenge to the average Pshek.
The Kremlin did not put this spastic orange man in power so that he could decide he wants to be Clinton 2.0. Someone in there needs to remind his sclerotic ass that he is a shill, and he should act like one unless he wants to be a second kennedy. Cook CNN a something burger, problem solved. G20 is irrelevant, Trump is irrelevant, he is our manchurian candidate, just keep him and the CNN morons fighting American won’t be here long
(Removed,language.MOD) What rubbish. I guess that is the end of the Donald as anything but a dead duck.
I need to go have a shower… and perhaps a drink… or two.
What T Man blathers about cannot matter in real terms, nor can his utterances change the arc of history. waste of time to listen to him.
When a man studies everything, and learns a trade, and continues to study everything as he ages and, in the fullness of life he discovers that he is forgetting at about the same rate as he is learning – them we may say of him: “That man is literate. One would do well to listen to him…”
Those men see the place humanity exists inside, the position and direction of the arc of history.
T Man takes then the place of the fool in the staged drama…amusing, and we know that after the fool, then the play begins in earnest… In fact, according to objective reality, T Man is el presidente of a banana republic, and many voted for him simply because they divined that he would catalyze the destruction of the “banana” part… It seems to be working…but of course, regrettably, the destruction may also sweep away the last forms of the republic… l’ poof!
I watch one institution after another – fail and engage in ketosis… This is a terminal process.
I pity the poor man. But I cannot abide such silly chattering…has he ever studied any history at all?
Silly question, eh?
I could only manage about ten paragraphs – the rest I skimmed.
My impression is that this is basically a sales pitch for US armaments, gas etc.
Poland is being manipulated into a ‘wedge’ element to cause problems for a German – Russian – China economic axis.
It’s more useful than the Baltics , whose only value is geographic proximity to Russia’s borders.
Polish provocateurs like Tusk and Sikorski played a significant role in the Ukrainian debacle, and I expect the cost of hordes of Banderites leaving that failed state for Poland will have to be borne by someone – funny money from the US probably.
Poland does have some intelligent and patriotic opposition but its leaders are being silenced through the usual means.
We’ll see how the current power holders succeed in their plans to direct the policy of the Visegrad group, and how Ukrainian immigration will affect their public support.
If Merkel bites the bulllet on immigration, makes more sensible overtures to Russia, strengthens bilateral relations with China, she might have some chance of leading Germany out of the impasse it is in.
If she doesn’t, the way is open for a new German kid on the block..
Note : even Der Spiegel is finally publishing critiques of globalism, and poverty is on the G20 agenda finally. Is the era of denial coming to an end?
“Thank you very much. That’s so nice. The United States has many great diplomats”
Start with delusions and go downhill from there.
The reason why Trump’s speech above is so shit, is because it was more than likely written by his senior advisor for policy & speechwriter, the jew stephen miller.
So Trump needs to get up to speed on what are facts, especially regarding USUkraine (still under yank influence). By the way, did everybody see pornoshitko when he was at the WH, how he looked like a nervous dog hoping to please its Master? Hopefully Putin will set him right, and once the BS about Russian involvement gets blown away for the lies it is, then Trump should forge ahead with better relations with Putin, and constantly silence his critics with his proven repudation of their fake – read lying – news.
What has become the routine for the “big speeches” is Miller, Bannon and Kushner all contribute and Trump fine edits.
Bannon sets the theme, Miller does the phrasing, Kushner makes certain it resonates in Tel Aviv and the ante Chamber in the Deep State.
The points he wants to make are his rough “outline” that Miller is highly skilled at shaping. Miller knows how Trump wants to sound.
The author of the opera is Trump. The orchestrator is Miller. The impresario is Bannon. Kushner is the publisher. And the star is not the message. It’s Trump.
He only cares about his performance. And he is the only person rating the performance that counts.
In other words he went to Poland and captured Poland. The speech about Western Civilization is from Bannon, not Trump. The point about individualism is Trump.
He has no geopolitical ideology (though he is very much liking being head of the Hegemon). He sees Poland as leverage. He could give a hoot about God or religion. The deal he wants is to force LNG on Eastern Europe and to limit the Russian flow to Western Europe.
Trump has been filling vacuums left by Obama.
Where he finds opposition or obstacles (Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, South China Sea) he is floundering.
Syria, in the immediate future, is huge. Putin should give him nothing.
In South China Sea, we already see the Chinese are prepared to bang ship hulls with US Navy.
In North Korea, the Russians will have to take over the problem. China won’t solve it, the US can do nothing constructive. They need a face-saving way to back down.
Perhaps, another Speech in Japan, extolling the great freedom loving Imperialism that raped Manchuria and Nanking, tortured Chinese and Russians in Harbin and destroyed most of SE Asia for a decade and a half. And then made transistor radios for everyone. What a success story! Fukushima, aside.
“We are also pleased that former President Leck Walesa, so famous for leading the Solidarity Movement, has joined us today, also. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.”
Ein ganz echter Arschlecker, tatsächlich! The Vatican’s and the CIA’s “trade union” = A Polish joke come true.
Hi Saker, what would you say is the most optimal Russian strategy vs Poland? Is there a positive scenario in official Russian stance where the two states and nations coexist as friends and partners?
If so, I am baffled by the deafening silence from Moscow. At best, Russia just doesn’t seem interested, at worst it doesn’t see Poland as a partner in the same way it sees Germany.
Plenty of comments in this thread which imply openly that Poland had it sweet under control of successive governments in Moscow. Current Polish foreign policy doesn’t at all surprise me when I read comments here. I’d love to be proved wrong, thank you.
War is avoidable but desirable for them. If they can no longer control 6blln pple, they’ll launch wwiii and rebuild their dystopian nwo order on the ashes of the old world. They did it twice before. Now they want to achieve nuclear primacy. The more destructive the war, the ‘cleaner’ the break with the past, the more intrusive and totalitarian the principles on which they can found the post-war system.
The current moral decadence, the coming economic collapse.. All this will be used to condemn current society, with all its obstacles to total control like family, religion etc,in the eyes of the young and ignorant survivors of the war.
God states in the Quran that the accursed devil has a plan to enslave Man, make him forget his Creator.
He has his minions to whom he offers earthly riches as he tried to Jezus peace be upon him, in the desert.
His religion is a mystery. magick and initiation based one where the lower novices have no real understanding of who and what they’re serving going all the way back to Babylon.
It infiltrated the divine revelation based religion of God when the Israelites came back and morphed to the Farizeeërs who were the prime enemy of Jezus, peace be upon him.
As a prophet of his nation, his ministry is unfinished.
The jews will manage to control all of the nations of world reducing to them a Coudenhove-Kalergesk bee-like servant caste but his return will be their end.
The struggle is moral and spiritual.
Praise be to God. The final victory is with those that side with Him.
It is known that Trump doesn’t care about facts. He is planning to rob Poland blind with that gas deal. So why not give a speech in agreement with their illusive view of history and facts. This doesn’t concern him whatsoever. It’s so easy to deceive someone who has many illusions and ambitions, and mostly, thinks that he is special and wants to build an empire of some sort. Poland has no chance and what Trump says doesn’t matter at all.
Highly consenting victims of US imperial rape not only get what they deserve but also what they feel is absolutely right at the same time. Trump is most likely reminded of quite a few American Polish jokes by these encounters.
It’s difficult to be upset by Western imperialism taking advantage of its most devout cretins.
That was the most pathetic speech ever.
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You probably didn’t watch it. He was only repeating how Poland is great again and again. And poor Polaks will buy more weapons from USA. Sorry, but I really don’t know how to describe this speech better.
“So it is with true admiration that I can say today, that from the farms and villages of your countryside to the cathedrals and squares of your great cities, Poland lives, Poland prospers, and Poland prevails.”
That’s a bit rich, given prevalent levels of Polish emigration and de-industrialization. But our proud Psheks are flattered all the same.
Inspirational speeches rarely have anything to do with the facts and this one is, of course, silent on such matters as Polish collaboration with the Nazis, taking a chunk of the dismembered Czechoslovakia, xenophobia, anti-semitism, the Government running away to Romania leaving the Polish people in the lurch, etc, etc: https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/29/why-the-west-falsifies-the-history-of-world-war-ii.html