by Andrew Korybko
Russia wasn’t bluffing when it said that Turkish Stream would be the only route for Ukrainian-diverted gas shipments after 2019 , and after dillydallying in disbelief for over six critical months, the EU has only now come to its senses and is desperately trying to market a geopolitical alternative. Understanding that its need for gas must absolutely continue to be met by Russia for the foreseeable decades (regardless of trans-Atlantic rhetoric), the EU wants to mitigate the multipolar consequences of Russia’s pipeline plans as much as it feasibly can. Russia wants to extend the Turkish Stream through Greece, Macedonia, and Serbia, in a project that the author has previously labelled as “ Balkan Stream ”, while the EU wants to scrap the Central Balkan route and replace it with one along the Eastern Balkans via Bulgaria and Romania, the so-called “Eastring” line.
Although Eastring could theoretically transit Caspian gas being shipped through the TAP pipeline, the proposal being thrown around most lately is for it to link to Turkish Stream instead, likely because the possibly projected 10-20 bcm a year from the former (Azerbaijan’s reserves may not be capable of meeting the demand without Turkmen assistance, which is far from assured at this point) is dwarfed by the guaranteed 49 bcm from the latter. If Europe does intend for Eastring to connect to Turkish Stream, then Russian gas supplies would reach the continent regardless of the route involved (Central Balkans or Eastern Balkans), meaning that it’s a win-win for Russia…supposedly. The strategic differences between Eastring and Balkan Stream are actually quite acute, and coupled with the implied motivational impetus revealed by the EU’s Eastring-Turkish Stream connective proposal in the first place, it means that they must be analyzed more in-depth before anyone jumps to a predetermined conclusion about Eastring’s ‘mutually beneficial’ nature.
The article begins by identifying the underlying strategic differences between Eastring and Balkan Stream. After having established that, it uses the acquired insight to interpret Brussels’ motivations and implied regional forecast for the Balkans. Finally, it touches upon the prolonged Greek debt crisis to illustrate how the Hellenic Republic’s current turmoil has evolved into a Western attempt at indirectly forcing Tsipras out of office as punishment for his country’s energy cooperation with Russia.
One would be absolutely mistaken for assuming that Eastring and Balkan Stream are strategically similar projects, as even if they both ultimately transit Russian gas to Europe, they promote two completely different long-term visions on behalf of their European and Russian backers, respectively.
The EU envisions that this proposed route will eliminate any of the geopolitical advantages that Russia could potentially reap from Balkan Stream (to be described soon), stripping the pipeline down to nothing more than a skinny natural gas tube devoid of any impact or influence. It’s capable of achieving this goal simply through the fact that the pipeline would be travelling through Bulgaria and Romania, two reliable EU and NATO member states whose political elite are firmly in the unipolar orbit. As an added assurance that Russia could never use the Eastring for any intended multipolar purposes, the US plans to pre-position enough heavy weapons and equipment for 750 troops in both of the Eastern Balkan countries, further strengthening the sub-NATO Black Sea Bloc that it’s been building over the past couple of years. If the US succeeds in sabotaging Balkan Stream and thus forces Russia to ultimately defer to Eastring as the only realistic Southeastern European alternative for shipping gas to Europe, then Moscow would be in just as miserable of a strategic position for its energy shipments as it was by relying on US-controlled Ukraine, thus negating the entire purpose of the Balkan pivot in the first place.
The Russians take the entirely opposite approach to pipelines than the Europeans do, in that they understand the geopolitical utility behind them and seek to use such infrastructure investments as strategic instruments. Balkan Stream can be understood as a multipolar counter-offensive into the heart of Europe , and it’s for precisely these reasons that Russia is completely averse to falling back on Eastring as its sole Southeastern European energy route to the EU. Moscow plans on using Balkan Stream as a magnet for attracting BRICS investment into the Balkans and supplementing China’s Balkan Silk Road from Greece to Hungary . It’s thus no coincidence that American-supported Albanian terrorism has returned to the region after a decade-long hiatus and specifically targeted the Republic of Macedonia, the Balkan Stream chokepoint . Russia is betting on Central Balkan transit for its proposed energy route because it knows that Serbia and Macedonia, both of which are not EU or NATO members, can’t be as directly dominated by the unipolar world as the US’ Bulgarian and Romanian satellites, and it also sees Greece as a ‘wild card’ that’s on the verge of falling out of favor with its Western overlords. These factors in turn make the Balkan Stream route exceptionally attractive for Russian geostrategists, who correctly recognize that the three states along its path (Greece, Macedonia, and Serbia) represent the Achilles’ heel of unipolarity in Western Eurasia, which if given the proper push, can lead to the eventually collapse of the entire structure.
Reading Brussels’ Mind
The very fact that the EU is proposing Eastring as a possible component of Turkish Stream reveals quite a lot about what Brussels is thinking at the moment. Let’s take a look at what’s being expressed between the lines:
Russian Gas Is A Must:
Brussels acknowledges that it must receive Russian gas one way or another, and that the Southern Gas Corridor more than likely will not fulfill the EU’s future consumptive demands on its own (for both the EU as a whole and the Balkan region in particular). The US also understands that this is the case, hence why it wants to engineer a scenario where Russia is forced to rely on the unipolar-dominated route through the Eastern Balkans so that the project is neutralized of any multipolar residual influence, and Washington can continue controlling Russian resource transit to Europe for the indefinite future.
Unipolar Vulnerability In The Central Balkans:
The proactive suggestion that the Eastern Balkans could substitute as an alternative pipeline path for Balkan Stream implies that the West admits the unipolar vulnerability that they have to a Russian route running through the Central Balkans. This is because the successful construction of Balkan Stream would lead to a strengthening of Serbia’s geostrategic position through its emergence as a regional energy hub. Belgrade could then capitalize off of this advantage to slowly and strategically (not politically!) reintegrate the lands of the former Yugoslavia, albeit under indirect Russian multipolar influence.
As a result, the Balkans, the European region which has inarguably received the shortest end of the Euro-Atlantic stick, would be presented with an attractive, non-Western opportunity for co-development with BRICS. Russia’s Balkan Stream would bestow them with secure energy supplies, while China’s Balkan Silk Road would grant them access to the larger global marketplace, thus threatening the economic stranglehold that the EU currently has over the peninsula. If Europe is no longer economically alluring to the Balkan states (its cultural and political attractiveness is a thing of the past due to ‘gay marriage’ and Brussels’ excessive bullying over these past few years), then it loses the last of its soft power sway and the only alternative model becomes BRICS, which would use the region to cut a multipolar beachhead all the way up to the core of the continent before anyone realizes what happened.
The EU clearly does not see Greece, at least in its present leadership, as being a reliable geopolitical tool for its interests. While an Azeri-sourced pipeline through the politically fickle country is acceptable, one from Russia isn’t, as it can be used as a staging ground for further multipolar inroads through the Central Balkans that can lead to the rapid retreat of Brussels’ Balkan influence (as described in the grand strategic scenario above). If Greece were fully under unipolar control, or the West strongly felt that this would be the case by 2019, then there wouldn’t be a need to cut the country out of the mix. Although there remains the possibility that a sliver of Greek territory could be used to construct a gas interconnector between the it and Bulgaria to facilitate Eastring, this still isn’t the same as a pipeline traversing half of the country’s northern territory and proceeding along a route that lays outside of unipolar control (unlike the proposed Bulgarian alternative). Thus, Eastring’s proposal says a lot about the dismal geopolitical outlook that Brussels holds in regards to Greece’s 5-year forecast, although this conversely can be read as a confirmation of the multipolar opportunity that Russia had earlier identified in the country.
Balkan Proxy Wars:
More than anything, Brussels’ Eastring proposal can be read as a desperate backup plan to secure much-needed Russian gas supplies in the event that the US successfully renders Balkan Stream’s central peninsular route unfeasible through a series of destabilizing proxy wars. As was earlier explained, the EU needs Russian gas no matter what (something that the US begrudgingly acknowledges), so it absolutely has to have a backup contingency plan on the table just in case something happens to Balkan Stream. The Russian coffers need the revenue, while the European factories need the gas, so it’s a natural relationship of mutual interest for both parties to cooperate via some route or another. The contention, of course, comes down to which specific path the Russian gas will travel through, and the US will do everything in its power to make sure that it falls under the unipolar-controlled Eastern Balkans and not the multipolar-susceptible Central Balkans. As such, the ‘Battle for Greece’ is the latest episode of this saga, and the future route of Russian gas shipments to Europe presently hangs in the balance.
A (Greek) Fork In The Road
Although the debt crisis was long an issue since before Balkan Stream was even conceptualized, it’s now become intimately intertwined in the New Cold War energy drama unfolding in the Balkans. The Troika wants to force Tsipras to capitulate to an unpopular debt deal that would surely lead to the rapid end of his premiership. Right now, the main factor tying Balkan Stream to Greece is the Tsipras government, and it’s in Russia and the multipolar world’s best interests to see him remain in power until the pipeline can physically be constructed. Any sudden or unexpected change of leadership in Greece could easily endanger the political viability of Balkan Stream and force Russia into relying on Eastring, and it’s for these reasons why the Troika wants to force Tsipras into an inextricable dilemma.
If he accepts the current debt conditions, then he’ll lose the support of his base and likely usher in early elections or fall victim to a revolt from within his own party. On the other hand, if he rejects the proposal and allows Greece to default, then the resultant economic catastrophe could kill all grassroots support for him and prematurely end his political career. That’s why the decision to hold a national referendum on the debt deal was such a genius move, because it ensures that Tsipras has a chance of surviving the forthcoming political-economic firestorm over its democratically obtained results (which look to foretell a debt rejection and imminent default ). With the people on his side (no matter how narrowly), Tsipras could continue presiding over Greece as it crawls into an uncertain and troubling forthcoming period. Additionally, his continued stewardship of the country and the personal chemistry that he has with the BRICS leaders ( especially Vladimir Putin ) could lead to them extending some form of economic assistance (probably through the $100 billion BRICS New Development Bank or equally large currency reserve pool ) to Greece after their upcoming summit in Ufa in early July, provided that he can hang on to leadership until then.
Thus, the future of Balkan energy geopolitics currently comes down to whatever happens in Greece in the near future. While it’s possible that a Greek Prime Minister other than Tsipras could continue moving forward with Balkan Stream, the likelihood is significantly less than if Tsipras stayed put in office. Creating the conditions for his removal is the indirect way in which the US and EU prefer to influence the course of Russia’s future energy shipments through the Balkans, hence why such pressure is being applied on Tsipras at this moment. His referendum proposal clearly took them all by surprise, since real democracy is practically unheard of in Europe nowadays, and nobody expected him to directly refer to his constituents prior to making one of the country’s most pivotal decisions in decades. Through these means, he can escape the Catch-22 trap that the Troika set for him, and in doing so, also save the future of Balkan Stream.
There’s more to the Eastring pipeline proposal than initially meets the eye, hence the need to unravel the strategic motivations behind in it in order to better comprehend its asymmetrical impact. It’s clear that the US and EU want to neutralize the geopolitical applicability that Balkan Stream would have in spreading multipolarity throughout the region, which explains their tandem approach in trying to stop it. The US is stoking the flames of violent Albanian nationalism in Macedonia in order to obstruct Balkan Stream’s intended path, while the EU is handily proposing an alternative route through the unipolar-controlled Eastern Balkans as a predetermined ‘way out’ for Russia. Both Euro-Atlantic forces are conspiring together in indirectly trying to topple the Greek government through an engineered election or internal coup in order to remove Tsipras from office, knowing that this singular move would deal the greatest and most immediate blow to Balkan Stream. While it’s not clear what will eventually happen with Tsipras or Russia’s pipeline plans in general, it’s irrefutable that the Balkans have become one of the main and repeated flashpoints for the New Cold War, and the competition between the unipolar and multipolar worlds in this geostrategic theater is only just beginning to play out.
Good analysis (ie: conforms with my own!). Good to see Korybko toning down his more apocalyptic sentiments.
There is an awful lot riding on the fortunes of this minority government, and Tsipras also has to keep an eye on attempts to undermine, coerce and bribe his coalition colleagues into withdrawing its support.
Really a good job.
But now watch Armenia. Belarus will follow.
I wonder whether the USA does not overestimate their capabilities. For Russia it is time to start some revolution on US soil.
Is a revolution on US soil advisable or even strictly necessary? Any attempt could backfire and galvanise a credulous population into even greater heights of delusional exceptionalism, over-the-top patriotism and subsequent vengeance. It would be a Neocon/evangelical dream.
The USA, as it devolves into a mirror of the former USSR, is doing a fine job of self-destruction all by itself. There are other softer ways to counter US mischief, and traps they can be led into.
What about promoting regime change in those “reliably unipolar” East Balkan states: Romania and Bulgaria?
Those countries’ governments may be full of NATO lackeys, but that doesn’t mean that their populations are as pliant.
Might be possible in Bulgaria, but probably more difficult in Romania…
I hope Greece may follow Tsipras and reject the Troika trap.
One other alternative exists, and although perhaps not to be mentioned through official channels for now, I´m sure it must be on the desk somewhere in the Kremlin:
The Novorossiya stream! Piping the gas straight to Hungary!
Although I like the Greeks to profit from the transit fees, stability needs to be guaranteed in every country from Azerbadjan, via Turkey, Macedonia and Serbia. One colored revolution or even a democratic change of government could sabotage the whole south stream project.
A similar, but opposite regime change in Moldavia, Romania or Bulgaria might be ideal to forget about east ring: how firmly are these countries in the NATO camp?
How firmly are they in the NATO camp?
As firmly as the front line Ukie troops with nazi guns pointed to the back of their heads.
They are “lifers” in NATO.
The only nation that might leave NATO and get away with it is Turkey. And they better just do it fast and not name a date in the future. The’ll never see the sunrise of that day.
I’m not sure about Bulgaria on that.In Romania you have a population with a traditional dislike of Russia (not Poland or the Baltic’s scale,but close).While in Bulgaria there is/was a lot of popular pro-Russian feeling among the population.The problem lays in the equally “Balkan” tradition of corruption.The political elite sold themselves to the EU and NATO.They would/will sell themselves equally as easily to Russia (and probably with more relish if offered the price).Russia makes an error in not pushing “color revolution” style directly to the Bulgarian people.Of all the people in the Balkans next to the Serbs and Greeks,Bulgar’s are the most ripe for pro-Russian sentiment.Bulgaria has suffered economically as bad (if not much more) from EU/NATO rule.In a small country to start with, their population dropped at “Baltic states” levels.And their industry (large for the Balkans) collapsed at “Ukraine” rates since 1990.The main “industry” seems to be tourism today.And a lot of that is Russians.Its Russia’s fault they are in this situation in Bulgaria,I’m sad to say.If they are to defeat the Empire and NATO in Europe they need to learn to play the “game” much better than they do.Even in a traditional pro-Russian state (Serbia,Greece,Bulgaria) you need to not just think “Oh,well,they will always side with us,so no worries”.You need to encourage that pro-Russianess constantly.The Empire uses their bribes and Russophobic MSM propaganda 24/7,and you have to counter it or lose out.
@ Uncle Bob,
you are absolutely spot-on!
“I’m sad to say.If they are to defeat the Empire and NATO in Europe they need to learn to play the “game” much better than they do.Even in a traditional pro-Russian state (Serbia,Greece,Bulgaria) you need to not just think “Oh,well,they will always side with us,so no worries”.You need to encourage that pro-Russianess constantly.The Empire uses their bribes and Russophobic MSM propaganda 24/7,and you have to counter it or lose out.
I am puzzled as much as you are. I mean, Russia has all that money from gas and oil, and still, they don*t invest in encouraging pro-Russians in the Balkans, which is a conditio sine qou non for winning there. Absolutely correct to ciritisize Russia on this one. They must invest. They must create at least RT television chanell in all those Balkan countries (not in English but in Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian). They always say “it is to expensive”. C*mon Russia!! Invest! Or we will all lose.
You don’t make a better world by becoming the same sort of murderer and game-player like the bad guys. That way you just become another bad guy yourself.
Now I know of no speedy solution either, but that ain’t it for sure.
russian instigated colour revolutions?
my god, can you imagine the headlines from
the presstitute media?
the western spokes people always and without
fail accuse others of doing what they themselves
do routinly and with maximum hypocracy.
just one example….
kerrys “bullhorn propaganda description of RT”
as if the western media is a beacon of truth…NOT
Just returned from Bulgaria, actually. Russophobic propaganda is working strongly there and achieving results. Not least due to the South Stream fiasco, which in Bulgarian MSM is firmly blamed on the Russians. Obviously. The traditionally pro-russian sentiment of the majority is now in serious jeopardy. Russian tourist numbers have dropped, but still the majority.
Agriculture is experiencing somewhat of a renaissance, there are also some new (EU funded) projects such as mussles farming, lavander growth etc.
Bulgarian people usually know and love Russian culture, music.They are also conservative, their mentality closer to the Russians than the liberal West.
I am in full agreement that Russia must do more through positive means (not colour revolutions, which are negative) to strenghen its image and influence. Alas, I have a feeling Russia has given up on the whole of the EU, including Bulgaria.
Well said Uncle Bob
And that, comes from a Greek
Turkey? The minute they try and secede from NATO, Kurdistan declares independence.
Did you mean Moldova?
Moldavia is now a region made up of part Romania and part Moldova.
Not to be confused with Mordovia (AKA Mordvinia) which is a tiny republic in Russia.
There’s also Moravia a large region in the Czech Republic, and Monrovia the capital city of Liberia.
I get them confused sometimes; perhaps someone could create a tongue-twister out of these names to cause even greater confusion?
And how about Galicia? Not only is it the north-eastern region of Ukraine, but it’s also the name of a region in Spain.
Of the three, Bulgaria is a weak possibility. Romania and Moldova are out of question. There still lingers there, heavy like toxic smoke, the miasma of unresolved, smoldering hatred for anything Russian, which to them is mostly memories of Soviet occupation and ‘regime change.’ Moldova, let;s not forget was Romanian land taken away by Russia after WWII.
But before that it was a part of the Russian Empire seized at the end of WWI by Romania.It has large minorities of Ukrainians,Russians,Christian Turks,as well as many of the Moldovans themselves are split politically.Many depend on Russia for work and selling their products to.I saw a recent concert in the south of Moldova by a patriotic Russian artist which gathered a large crowd.Moldova is no “slam dunk” for the EU/NATO.Any moves they make can spark a civil war there.Which they might not win.
Not that again. Before being seized by the Russian Empire, Bessarabia was for centuries part of the medieval Principality of Moldavia and, as happened, it was precisely rump Moldavia that acted as a catalyst in coalescing Romania out of patches of land. Even if it’s highly unlikely for Moldova to be ever reunited with Romania, feelings of bitterness and hatred are still simmering and that’s what matters now. I’m not going to get back the pieces of land you took from me but I will see you paying for what you’ve done to me. If Russia doesn’t understand that she has to make peace with countries like Poland or Romania, the only winner of this blind enmity will be…guess who?
And France and Spain belonged to the Roman Empire too.But times changed.Wars,migrations,more wars,regionalism,etc,changed all that.Moldova is a multi-ethnic hodgepodge today (was then too,but even more today).The threat of civil war is very real there.The Christian Turks will secede (Bulgarians too).Not even to mention Transnistria, if a Moldovan government tries to unite with Romania.They’ve made that plain several times.Previous Romanian rule wasn’t good for them (nor for Moldovans of any ethnicity),and they fear its return.Plus Romania is as poor as a church mouse.There is nothing to offer them worth the risk of losing everything (though there are a few zealots wanting to try it).Its not likely they can get the votes for a move that insane.
Well, everyone and their uncle know of Roman roads and public baths but when it comes about the Russian empire people tend to remember only empty coffers and ravaged pantries. :) But that’s beside the point. The point in Russia’s perspective is that regardless of what happens to Moldova in the future (hopefully nothing like a reunion, since even if the Romanian interwar rule wasn’t likely that bad as the nice Holodomor like the one happening in neighboring Ukraine and guys like comrade Iakir were arguably worse than the Romanian gendarmes, on Stalin’ s say-so, I would not care to repeat the 1918 moment), Romania will remain its enemy and, as proven in 1941, there’s no such thing as unimportant enemies. So when you get surrounded by a plethora of small “unimportant enemies” backed from behind by a big and hungry bully wanting bear steak for dinner, you may want to avoid the possibility of getting roasted and at least try to make friends with the small unimportant enemies. It’s not that hard and it will not cost a penny. Getting roasted on the other hand…
What’s interesting about those countries now is that the popular feeling is slowly changing. They were eager to be rid of communism, but capitalism turned out a huge disappointment. The only ones who profited by it were the former communists, their relatives and their friends, who got super rich by appropriating for themselves state assets and then selling them to foreigners.
Unemployment is huge, and for instance in Romania there is no social assistance – people are begging on the streets and the police are cracking down on them. Millions of people emigrated to the West in order to find work, many leaving their children at home with the grandparents. The government passed one ridiculously restricting law after another, like for example one that requires employees to declare tips in order to be taxed and forces them to declare the sum of money they have on them at the beginning and end of each workday. The police are also arresting and/or fining poor peasants who are trying to sell their little basket of vegetables on the street because they can’t afford to buy a place at the market.
All these anti-human measures are not making the authorities very popular. Of course, the “secret” police who is really running Romania has its eyes and ears all over the place, like they had during communist times, but they are extremely corrupt and they cannot control their own people very well (had to knock off some of them). For a long while they relied on gangs to terr*rize the population, word on the street was that all the gang leaders reported to the so-called police. The “justice” system is so corrupt that practically there is not one person who hasn’t been swindled by it (this system generally works together with the “police” and the big mafia guys).
All this is freely talked about and even written about in the major newspapers. And it seems that the regime is feeling a little wobbly, because it intensified the propaganda, but no propaganda will work when the hunger is too great. It would seem that the thugs forgot the lessons of the 80’s, when hunger and frustrations of the population helped bring down the communist regime.
So, I don’t know, maybe the Romanians might even be willing to forget that the republic of Moldova was part of the Romanian Principality of Moldova when it was taken by the Russian Empire in 1812. Anyway, the Orthodox have become more sympathetic to the Russians on account of the common faith, and there were some rows among the high prelates who were accused of being pro-Western to the point of belonging to the Great Architect crowd. I even heard that some of them threatened to break up with the official Church and move to the Bear, but I couldn’t confirm that. Of course, that would also be a problem, because which Orthodox Bear is the legitimate one now ?
Sounds not much improved on the days of Ceaușescu.
I suppose IMF thinks it is marvelous austerity to have no benefits for the poorest people.
Being taxed on tips is a US idea, in many places servers get about $1.35 an hour and have to work for tips only (as the “wage” gets deducted as tax). Land of the free.
Americans are the most taxed people. They also get taxed through inflation a la the Federal Reserve. This is what JFK was trying to stop once and for all. Don’t mess with the Fed.
I suppose I should call you Monica and ask you where are those 2 million votes you claimed as being frauded back in 2012. Or not, because not even she would have done such a good job in smearing dirt all over her own country. Obviously I cannot ask more than you can give but remember, one day all the shit you’re spreading around is going to hit you in the face and I’m afraid that would be no more than you deserve.
Now, speaking like an adult and not as a petulant child, I should point out that whereas poverty and corruption are a real issue in Romania, those two things are the most efficient tool used today in the purges currently carried out in Romania. Remember Stalin’s Great Purges? Just imagine a softer version in which people aren’t shot in the head but sent to prisons while the media tears them to pieces (often long before they are sent before a judge) and the US and EU are clapping enthusiastically their hands and you’ll have a good picture on what happens today in Romania. Of course foreign officials and companies who should suffer the same treatment are not even touched – a former US Ambassador and a former Bundeskanzler should wear now some stripped garments but well. Anyway, any politician suspected of not being obedient enough is suddenly gifted with some criminal charges, corruption being the favorite, and under media pressure forced to resign, especially if arrested and paraded around in handcuffs. It’s of no relevance what happens afterwards – if he gets an acquittal for instance. The “danger” has been removed. So, no, for now there’s nothing to be done. Purely coincidental, anyone who opposed IMF or WB maneuvers or tried to find economic alternatives in China for instance is now facing penal charges with the perspective to spend many years in prison. Therefore because Russia keeps rejecting any possibility of real reconciliation with the neighbors she has hurt in the past, Romania and others will become militarized US colonies, Western Europe will be the US economic backyard, Russia will be surrounded and slowly pushed out of Europe and the US banksters and oligarchs will get richer and richer. The world is such a wonderful place.
Yeah, I thought that might get the blue-eyed boys out of their sh*t-holes…
It’s not me, amigo, who needs to fear (that was really transparent, by the way), but you, in the plural, and your bosses who didn’t do what was expected of them but just filled their pockets like the greedy bastards they are. Both Washington and the EU told you several times to do something about the corruption, but all you did was increase it. Go read any newspaper in Romania and any blog not of your mates’ doing and you will find everything I said and much, much more. Better yet, get out of your expensive car and walk the streets and you will see.That country is being killed slowly and painfully by its own people.
There are no “purges” there, just mafia fights, “reglare de conturi” as they say. The not-so-secret police getting rid of their adversaries and making a big show of it. But do you really think the Americans are so stupid not to know what you are really doing ? Keep dreaming.
Floare albastra…I have actually a better idea. Why don’t you get out to the streets and tell my bosses about your grievances? Or why don’t you write a petition or ask a meeting with your mayor or MP and question them about the way they’re spending your tax money? Granted, it’s easier to sit before a keyboard and whine about corruption than asking yourself what you can do to help getting rid of it but is this better? It’s always easier to find some blue-eyed guys or green-skinned little people to place the blame on than to actually take responsibility for your vote and your tax money. Easier to complain, twiddle your thumbs and whinge about to whoever feels like listening to attention whores than to go to the streets, find the kind of people you were speaking of and do something. Anything. But well, it’s easier to say “why me?” or “let someone else to do it” but in the meantime the country suffers. So if it’s indeed true that Romania is dying, know that you are among its killers. So it’s your choice: live with that or take action. And don’t worry: it’s not going to be fear you would feel when someone treats you like a thief from Romania (it’ll be a little difficult to explain that whereas according to your claims Romania is corrupted like hell, you’re an innocent lily-white dove) but red hot shame. As I said: nothing more than your just desserts.
As for EU and US, it’s a treat to take lessons about corruption from one Mark Gittenstein. Or one Gerald Schwieghofer, yeah! Why not from Gerhard Schroeder or Franz Steinmeier about a certain billion Euros earned by an insignifiant company called EADS? Or even from Bill Gates to learn some interesting things about money earned by Microsoft? Hell, we can even ask Juncker the righteous for tips about how to legally siphon loads of European money using a respectable EU tax haven and get away scot free. Not that I completely disagree with you. The Americans do know very well what we’re doing but they can’t do shit: Margarethe II won’t be ever carried out. :)
Careful what you wish for…
@ FLOR solitaria
Yes, taxing tips is an insane idea and you might be surprised that Germny is doing the same – since many years. It’s annoying because the gov participates like a pimp when sombody makes an effort to give good service. But people find ways around, even here.
I had an employee who was born as a German (in a region called Banat). The stories he used to tell us where simply unbelievable. Your description of todays Romania fits in perfectly. So, nothing much has changed in that sorry land.
Well, everyone remembers what’s more convenient than not. Pity he didn’t remember anything about the years 1940-1944. Those were the days, my friend…just as the song says. By the way, there’s no such thing as sorry lands. There are only sorry people, the sort that divided human beings in untermeschen and ubermenschen, for instance.
Tsipras: The institutions blackmail Greek people
Greeks will be OK immediately when they said good by to the fascist EU and join the BRICKS
It will be a good while before they are “okay”. You get rescued after 11 days floating on the ocean holding onto a little piece of wood, you are not “okay” as soon as you get dry clothes.
But BRICS loans are development loans, designed to get industries functioning and the economy to start working. That means people working, people getting income, people being able to eat. It won’t all go to paying back loans that went to foreign bankers, at the expense of grandmothers.
They would have to be very tough on corruption, so the new loans go into real development, not more ponzi schemes (run by locals for a change). If the foreigners who bought ports or agri-businesses can’t manage, let them sell to local people. But no more borrowing then forcing the government to pay back for them.
It is obvious that Russian “western partners” are increasing their activities on the Balkans to prevent Balkan Stream. Macedonian police (apparently tipped by Serbian secret services) managed to stop group of Albanian terrorists in Kumanovo that originated from Kosovo, and was destined to Macedonian capital Skopje to “participate in peaceful demonstrations” against current, Balkan Stream friendly, Macedonian government. We can only imagine what kind of havoc would have been instigated on “Macedonian maidan”, had this group, that even ambushed killed 8 Macedonian police officers, managed to come to capital Skopje. In Serbia quisling Serbian government is under pressure to “align with EU Russia policies”, which means to introduce sanctions against Russia and shoot itself in the foot. Minister of foreign affairs, Ivica Dacic, during his latest visit to Moscow was apparently very unpleasantly surprised to learn about EU Eastring proposal to Russia and its intent to completely bypass Serbia. Russia and China have to do much more in the Balkans if they plan to establish their influence there, as a starting point for their influence in Europe. Western colonial administration in Balkan countries is very strong (less so in Greece). It includes NGOs, media, and politicians who all report to American, British, and German ambassadors. For example, in Serbia is almost impossible to get into the parlament without endorsement from western embassies, because western owned media would either ignore, or vilify politicians who promote Serbian interests. In order to make inroads into Balkans Russia and China have to establish their media presence and help to integrate political forces who promote sovereignty and multipolar world. Working with western picked, quisling governments of the Balkans, would be a loser and huge waste of money, as in case of the South Stream project pipeline.
” This is because the successful construction of Balkan Stream would lead to a strengthening of Serbia’s geostrategic position through its emergence as a regional energy hub. Belgrade could then capitalize off of this advantage to slowly and strategically (not politically!) reintegrate the lands of the former Yugoslavia, albeit under indirect Russian multipolar influence.”
This is the key! Excellant analysis.
Serbia is the key. The West wants Serbia dead and destroyed, while Russia wants us to rebuild our country and our region.
I am a cautious optimist about this.
But Greece must decide first. Hard to predict.
I don’t see the referendum as even close.The timing is too soon for the Empire to marshal all their resources to defeat it.I can’t see the Greeks as not voting against rejecting the “deal”.The left and the right both hate it (for different and also the same reasons).But then what happens? The key to the pipeline besides Greece is Turkey and Macedonia.Then we come to Serbia.While ultimately it would benefit Serbia a great deal.First it must make it through the other three.
A fair proper referendum would not be close.
But riots, fighting at the voting booths, a vocal opposition person assassinated, a truck carrying ballot boxes ambushed……. a lot of ways the actual vote can be interfered with, enough to make it officially count as “invalid”.
Big shakeup in stock markets though already. Australian stock market has lost about $40 billion in a day, over the Greece news. Of course they’re spreading that there’s panic, miles long queues waiting for money etc etc which is not likely considering Greece has restricted ATM withdrawals to 60 euros a day.
And I think they’ve put the referendum a week away to get time to PRINT THE DRACHMAS.
There are no drachmas now, so they have no exchange rate. They can decree them to be 1:1 so no panic, no loss to anyone.
Maybe a plan is to reject the offer on the table, to get a better offer. (Or just too serious, undecidable without a referendum)
Russia definitely owes Serbia one for distracting Hitler and successfully delaying Operation Barbarossa. Greece too. The dynamite combination of Russia, Serbia, and Greece would be a tough nut to crack for the unipolar empire. Throw in Hungary, and you got one stubborn thorn-in-the-side of the Western control freaks.
Andrew Korybko: …” through an engineered election or an internal coup” Hopefully these do not prove to be prophetic words. Greek generals have been known to be obliging in the latter case and, in the former, enough chaos in the society could cause crevasses to open in parliamentary pacts.
No need to unbalance yourself with worry but Never underestimate your opponent. This premature launching of protest in Armenia( the electric rate hike does not even begin until August) is an example of how off balance they actually are.
@ Andrew Korybko,
I don’t know why, but for the best part of my life I thought of Europe as a bastion of independence [although, in the comfort in hindsight, that’s probably mostly because of France’s attitude, way back].
Looking at it now, I feel a bit like the village idiot, the one who stares at the shades and shadows on the back of the walls in a cave and thinks that’s true reality, in its rawest form.
Come to think of it, skinny dipping in a sewage canal does give one a certain ‘tan,’ but at what cost?
It’s ok my friend, better than swimming in a cesspool but continues to think it’s a clean lake like most zombies in the West!
Here is a map showing existing pipelines in the region and the proposed Balkan/Tesla and Eastring routes.
There is already an alternative. Double the capacity of the Nordic Stream.
They are working on that I believe.But in reality the simplest solution for the short term (a decade or so).Would be the toppling of the junta.That is the main reason there is a question on Ukraine for the transit.You don’t see this concern over the line through Belarus.With a friendly pro-Russian government in Kiev that wouldn’t be an issue either.While alternate routes are good to have.The routes in place now do the job.Its just the issue with Ukraine that has caused this crisis.
A year or two (still short of 2019) may be a big difference in Ukraine. Maybe enough that the “never through Ukraine” idea gets dropped, what easier way for Russia to help a newly independent damaged republic get on its feet? THEN watch Europe scramble for one of the other routes to be done immediately with sweet conditions.
There is an interesting additional direct player. Italy.
The Italians are laying the pipe in the Black Sea for Gazprom.
Putin met with Berlusconi two weeks ago. They were not discussing cannoli and gelato.
I think Italy, long a player in Russian history, a trading nation and capable of acting in its own self-interest, could be getting set to take some pipeline from Greece’s connection or undersea on its own from Turkey.
The same deal offered Greece, money upfront leveraged against later revenues, would work to cover the expense.
As for Greece, the big shadow is China. China is in the port already. I don’t think Beijing will just allow the EU to push China away. There are three other sources of gas two of which are probably going to be developed by Russia/China. Syria, off shore, Palestine, off shore and Israel, off shore.
Markets in the Eastern Mediterranean and North Africa will be growing. Infrastructure, reconstruct after wars, modern transportation and industrialization take power—none better or cleaner than natural gas.
This is why China and Russia had live fire naval maneuvers in the Mediterranean last month. They are telling the West, everything is changing.
Carefully watch Voijvodina now!!!!
Excellent analysis by Korybko.
The pro-western traitors in Greece are foaming at the mouth about the proposed referendum. The radical left and the radical right are going to vote against the “Troika” plans, while the corrupt “centrist” parties will bow to their Western overlords once more and keep licking.
I would expect a thunderous win for the “NO” vote come next Sunday.
I hope that too, but Sunday is 6 days ahead….lot of water under the bridge!
Sabotage of referendum, people bought, ….politician killed.
Stavros, first of all they have to be Greek in order to be called “traitors”. Most of them (parliamentarians or members of the Vouli if you want to call them the proper way.) are not or they consider their allegiance to other country(ies) or simply are foreign agents.
Greece should have never joined the EU/Euro to start with, or should have left it 10 years ago. Even Tsipras and his bodies (whom I also consider traitors if they are Greeks) want to hang on to EU at all cost, even if it means the death of Greece. All his games with Russia are just games to get concessions from EU. Now he wants to put the blame for the final decision on Greek people, so he can hang on to the power.
Tsipras’ party had only 36% of the vote, and he had not campaigned on Grexit. Recent poll says 70% approve of the way he’s handled negotiations & 49% wd vote for him if election today. If Greeks vote “no” on referendum, THEN we will see what Tsipras really wants. We are not mind-readers.
In Greek party system 36% is plenty enough, Syriza was just few seats shy of majority on their own. No, they did not advertize Grexit, because they all want to educate their kids in London (say Oxford) or in Paris. They want to go to Germany and buy their Be-em-ve (BMW) without paying special taxes. In short for their short-cited personal benefits. But, Greek economy could never support Euro. This is what killed the tourism in Greece. This is why they have few more days to decide: totally enslave themselves by selling Greece including people’s underwear or go back to Drachmi and live free.
It will take long time but eventually their grand children will be free of the financial yoke placed upon their necks by their “own” politicians like Jeffrey Papandreu.
Nice deconstruction of these ongoing events. Word’s out that Erdogan wants to invade Syria to prevent the Kurds from forming a statelet that could merge with the Kurd’s Iraqi statelet. Russia needs a better Turkish partner than Erdogan for Turkish/Balkan Stream viability just as much as it needs Tsipras to continue as PM.
As a layman in this area, it’s not clear to me why Russia needs much more than willing customers somewhere for its gas, be it Germany for Nord-Stream plus the parallel line which now seems to be in the works, Turkey for Turk-Stream if it comes to pass; China for the East and now West Siberia lines, Japan — which seems interested in a line, maybe the Koreas. The revenues are fungible by definition, in that Russia can buy whatever it needs from whomever is willing to sell: tea from China and India, coffee from Brazil, tropical produce from wherever. Russia is self sufficient in most everything else I can think of. After the Mistral and Rhinemetal fiascos, it should avoid any reliance on the US, EU, et al, like the plague. Historically, in the modern era, roughly since 1500, Russia has repeatedly fallen behind in military technology, then had to catch up. Now, however, it seems more or less abreast with the state of the art, ahead in some areas. With the cooperation of China and India in military technology, plus other countries that might be interested, maybe Brazil for deep-water drilling techniques, it should be able to keep up. I’m sure it would like to win friends and influence people in various EU countries that seem tractable: Serbia, Greece, Hungary,the Czech and Slovak republics, all seem possibilities. But they do not seem not vital to the existence of Russia. Maybe some deep geo-political thinkers could enlighten me.
Happy well-off neigbours are good to have. If you helped them to get that way, better still. They wont resent you in any way, and won’t fall under the spell of your enemies. Even if they quarrel (as neigbours sometimes do) then you are friends with both sides, you can help them settle it without anyone getting killed. This is opposed to the current system, where a certain someone bombs people until they obey.
If spare capactiy is spent not on war but on developing, the poor parts of African and Middle East can be built up. No more poverty = no more fighting = no more refugees. Better for everyone.
First the neighbours, then the house.
Seward, you say, “it’s not clear to me why Russia needs much more than willing customers somewhere for its gas”.
It’s like this: There are two alternative visions for the world & one of the theatres in which those two visions are fighting to the death is the Battle For Europe.
The New World Order is to be a global oligarchy of reduced population. Virtually every military conflict today is a battle by its proponents to bring all nations and resources under its control, often by the use of proxy fighters & mercenaries like ISIS, Boko Haram, al qaeda. US/UK/NATO/Zionists/ Saudis, Qatar are the actors. Those currently in power in Germany support it while decent Germans oppose it. A major facilitator is the IMF/Fed system. http://borisanisimov.blogspot.com/2010/10/nationalization-of-ruble.html
The opposing vision is a multipolar world of peace, trade & development. I personally will not fully believe in this world until I see the IMF/Fed monetary system overthrown and financial sovereignty returned to nations. For me, a little multipolarity at the top of a centralized system isn’t enough. I want decentralized decision-making within sovereign nation-states with their own monetary/credit creation.
Korybko has explained that in addition to the monetary reward of selling gas, Russia wants to use the presence of the pipeline as a means of seducing susceptible European countries away from EU so that they become assets for the 2d vision. (Thru reaping transit fees & becoming recipients of the additional trade infrastructure that is planned– rail, etc.)
Hope my 2-bits was helpful.
You seem the only person here awake to the depopulation aspect of the NWO agenda, & deserve some back up.
Lord Monckton was science adviser to Mrs Thatcher, chief policy adviser to Nigel Farage at UKIP, is an expert on the climate change/global warming scam, & is up to speed with UN Agenda 21, the United Nations plan for this 21st century.
This involves a reduction of human population to ~ 500 million. From the present 7 billion, that’s 13 of every 14 to go, or ~ 93%, by wars, vaccines, processed foods, ebola, many ways.
The 1972 DDT ban killed ~50 million in the 3rd world, mostly women & children via malaria.
The 1973 Roe vs Wade decision has led to 55 million abortions in USA.
Look up the Georgia guidestones.
Lord M on EU/UN globalist/depopulation ambitions, 51 mins:
Or, put in search box: Agenda 21’s Globalist Death Plan For Humanity
Thank you, Andrew. A real cliff-hanger. Perhaps Tsipras would have been better off if he’d signed a contract binding upon the Greek government, instead of just the MOU. It might have taken the pressure off him– that is, if the contract wd have been binding upon the Greek govt regardless of what happened to his party’s hold on power.
Hard to see how EU can be compelled to give Macedonia permission (since she says “no, unless EU permits.”) And then there’s Serbia being constantly threatened w the US-backed “Greater Albania”. Certainly is hazardous to be a Balkan politician.
Since Macedonia isn’t a member of the EU they don’t need their permission for the pipeline.
Nevertheless, Macedonian prime minister and oposition leader have met in Brussels to resolve their issues after Kumanovo and pro government and pro oposition demonstrations.
Macedonian PM says will not permit Russian pipeline w/o EU permission, based upon EU and NATO membership objectives. http://www.dtt-net.com/en/index.php?page=view-article&article=8489
But maybe Chinese investment would change his mind?
Fossil fuels, the curse of humanity. They have carried us to the edge of extinction like a poisoned chalice. Great tot to see Andrew Korybko contributing to the Saker Blog
Kevin, The corporate media lies to you about most significant issues– virtually all foreign policy matters, medical science from vaccinations to the safety of many of Big Pharma’s drugs, GMO agriculture, etc.
Why in the world wd you imagine they have told you the truth about the results of using “fossil fuels”? (Which they aren’t, btw; they are a natural product of the core of the earth.)
In many cases the corporate power structure supports BOTH sides of an issue, so that they can better determine the outcome. I hope you’ll look at the science.
Middle East Bits & Pieces, mostly Fars News: (I found the last one surprising)
Obama has (officially) ordered 3500 trainers & advisers to Iraq.
The ISIL Takfiri terrorists currently control shrinking swathes of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Ezadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq.
The London-based al-Hayat newspaper reported on Sunday that 12,000 Turkish forces are ready for military intervention in Syria under the pretext of creating a buffer zone to protect the Turkish borders against the threat of the terrorist groups
The US military has invested a lot in purchasing short-range direct attack bombs and has under-invested in the long-range, stealth and precision-guided weapons, Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments reported. The report points out that from 2001 to 2014 the US Department of Defense bought 304,750 weapons for direct action with a radius of up to 50 lesions nautical miles (80.47 km), which accounted for 96% of all weapons purchase
PUTIN today (or at least it was dated today): “As you know, the modern world, especially the Western world, is highly monopolised and many Western countries – whether they want to hear this or not – have voluntarily given up a considerable part of their sovereignty. To some extent, this is a result of the politics of blocs. Sometimes we find it very difficult to come to terms with them on geopolitical issues. It is hard to reach an agreement with people who whisper even at home for fear of being overheard by the Americans. This is not a joke or a figure of speech.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFAdMHK6Aw Putin to tumultuous applause, titles
Links to several other video excerpts at the article above.
LOL, I love the line about having to whisper due to USSA….
That’s a great dig by Putin.
Yup, not kosher for the lesser quislings to object when the major quisling is simply confirming their loyalty.
We can understand better the whole history of the Balkans since 1990. The project to bring the Russian oil and gas through the Black Sea, Romania, Serbia to Trieste which was “in the pipe-line” in the ’90s in competition with the Baku-Ceyhan pipe-line.
The trans-Romania and Yugoslavia route was definitely the shortest and most economic, running on a flat terrain and with the additional route of the Danube. The potential economic bonanza for Romania, Bulagaria and Yugoslavia was enormous. Romania had already in function the oil terminal of Capul Midia, refineries, and a vast expertise in petrol-gas exploitation.
The dismantling of Yugoslavia should be viewed in this context. Kosovo and Albania were destined to be the transit territories to Europe of the prolongation of the Baku-Ceyhan pipe-line. No less the meddling in the Middle East and Caucasus. The final goal was always to harm Russia and prevent a return of Romania, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia to the Russian fold.
The failure to find alternative sources of gas demonstrate that there are none, but the intention to harm Russia remains, irrespective of the economical harm that Europe inflicts on herself.
Thank you. Noted.
Sometimes, maybe all times, it seems that pipelines explain all geopolitics, if one is prepared to step back a couple of decades for the correct perspective.
Romania was a major oil producer, the only one of substance in Europe. This made it the major supplier of fuel for Hitler, leading to USSR invading Romania first, to stop the fuel going to Germany. Both the oil wells and refineries got bombed numerous times. By the 90’s the oil wells were drying up and the West was not interested in getting more competition. Still, Romania is a big destination not for gas but for oil, as there are 10 huge refineries there.
Currently they only produce about half their annual requirement, but have very big reserves waiting to be developed.
Thank you WizOz & KatKan, I learn something new every day on Saker’s site.
If you want a tour of the State Department under Hillary and project what she would do as President, though any of the a**holes running are capable of this, a fascinating deconstruction with all the latest facts regarding 2011 arming of anti-Gaddafi rebels (Al Qaeda) and then the arming of the Syrian rebels (that turned out to be ISIL).
The author runs the website blog, Sundance is his moniker.
He is very intelligent. A religious and patriotic guy, who I think is ex-military, though he never talks about it, though he has sources. He is a terrific detective and has broken down most all the explosive racial events of the past years with dogged reconstructions and on-site detective leg work. He’s always been proved correct in the facts.
I differ with his knee-jerk defense of Israel and America first mentality, but I respect his process and how thoroughly he lays out facts.
This is a long read, but important for those who want to see the Hegemon uncovered in some of the most disastrous covert operations in history.
He leads us to the facts that the MANPADS (stingers, included) have made their way to Afghanistan and have cost significant deaths and shoot downs of all sorts of aircraft used by DOD and CIA.
In other words, Obama and Hillary not only got Amb. Stevens, the IT tech and the two special operators killed in Benghazi, they have dozens of Seal Team Six deaths and others in the service who were by-products of their f*ckups.
All of their actions indicate to what lengths they will go in Ukraine, Armenia, Macedonia, Transnistria, Uzbekistan and Xinjiang, Taiwan, Myanmar, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan and India, to name a few hot spots they are pouring fuel onto.
They use third party nations to cover their trail, Qatar and Turkey, and would be using Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood had not Sisi overthrown those madmen.
Read it and understand the simplicity of the evil the incompetent can dispatch.
What are the death tolls in Libya and Syria alone because of Hillary, Obama and their staffs have let loose the dogs of war?
You know the Russians have all the details everywhere. But that does not stop all the color revolutions and destabilizations.
I think what is characteristic of the US actions is a continuum since post-WWII on every continent and scores of nations. It is the every day business of the US government regardless of who is in or out, close or arms-length. It is rationalized in the national interest and proposed as part of the national security.
Only Russia with China, and soon Iran, are big enough to confront the covert ops, and then disrupt them by whatever means necessary.
I differ with his knee-jerk defense of Israel and America first mentality,
A kneejerk defense of zionaziland combined with America 1st mentality are pretty reliable signposts that what it rattles on about will be unreliable. Sort of like a biological scientist who ascribes to creation, a geographer who thinks the earth is flat, or an astronomer who believes the sun orbits the earth. Or a historian who who takes nazi propaganda about the USSR seriously.
That linked story goes on for about 15 screens. Main upshot: Hillary BAD.
I first came across theconservativetreehouse during the Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman case, when they showed themselves to be rabidly racist, white supremacists, dripping with faux Christian righteousness. “Sundance” published a “secret investigation” relying on supposed FOI and secret documents (which ere never shown) proving some conspiracy or another in the shooting investigation which was later shown to be fake.
In brief: I would not touch that site with a barge pole.
So you don’t trust what you don’t agree with.
Each and every case was proven by Sundance’s work. His work on Ferguson was totally correct. Trayvon Martin was proven to be another perfect Sundance detective case. The case went exactly as it had to be decided.
Facts bother you, Kat Kan. That’s too bad.
Now you won’t read the truth even though it is exemplary demonstrating the evil of US operatives.
I’m sure you avoid Fox News, yet Catherine Herridge is the best reporter in America digging the truth out of State and DOD and Intel agencies. And has a great book on AQ in America and how Obama covered it up.
You throw the baby out with the bathwater. Sad.
On what do you base your judgement that he got anything absolutely right? your own research? or you just agree with him so think that makes it right? ? he demonised the victims and glorified the murderers. You call that right?
I prefer my facts not filtered through a racist white supremacist lens, thank you. You need to learn to be a bit more choosy.
Glad you mentioned bathwater. I need a bath in bleach after visiting that site, every time.
How hard is it to figure out that continuing to F*CK with Russia in this manner could ultimately lead them to just TURN THE GAS OFF to EU member states, that is, to NATO member states (??). I continue to marvel that the Baltic States and Poland are frothing at the mouth about Russia, while at the same time they are dependent upon Russia to STAY WARM IN THE WINTER.
I have to wonder what percentage of the people in these nations agree with the policies of their government? Can the interests of the European peoples and nations ever take precedence over orders from Washington? And at what point will Russia decide to take a hard line of this sort? How many more obviously self-serving, malicious plans are they willing to even discuss with these crazy people running the EU and NATO?
You can tell the Cold War was fake because the West had no problem whatsoever with the Soviet Union providing western Europe with gas the whole time, duh. The USSR never got harassed about it and Europeans never had to worry about freezing their asses off. The RF is still a nuclear power, so it’s not like anybody was too scared to poke the Soviet Bear. Except maybe Reagan thought the Cold War was real; sure acted like it, pun intended. He sure wanted to *win*. What an egomaniac. The parasite is not supposed to kill the host. By spending the SU into the ground, he derailed the whole military industrial complex Cold War gravy train for a whole lot of people in the West. No wonder they want it back. Well, anyway, a lot of people think the Cold War was as fake as the moon landings. This whole world must be fake. Ask any magician.
The official reasons Washington gave for Cold War I may well have been fake, but the struggle itself was real–indeed the struggle continues to this day.
As far as the Soviet pipeline was concerned, the Reagan administration did oppose it. But then as now, they did not yet have sufficient control of the middle east to build a substitute pipeline up into Europe. That’s what the present Syrian War and Iranian negotiations are really about: replacing Russian oil/gas. Why do you think the Russians want to own the gas-hub in Turkey?
In a comment above by Ugo Z, he seemed to predict Italy would take a stand on Russia and the conflict with the Hegemon.
Here’s an article in Politikus.ru (use Yandex for translation) if you want to read. I copy it below.
Silvio Berlusconi will come to Moscow to make peace between Russia and the West
Former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is going to soon visit Russia c responsible mission – to reconcile the West and Russia.
“Hold in the Russian Federation a few days to meet President Putin, at his invitation,” announced via social media policies.
Berlusconi is very concerned about the current international political environment, and strained relations between Russia and the West, which, in his opinion, adversely affect the Italian economy.
Judging by his resolute spirit, 78-year-old leader of movement “Forward, Italy” to prepare to become a mediator between Moscow, Washington and Brussels.
“I can’t shirk our responsibility to assist in resolving this situation, because I in 2002, the year in Pratica di Mare insisted on signing the agreement between NATO and Russia, ending the “cold war”, and in 2009-m to year, as the chair of G8, I contributed to the signing of an agreement between presidents Obama and Medvedev on the reduction of the Russian-American nuclear Arsenal. Today I hold no gopostal, but I believe in establishing good relationships and respect, which to me is experienced by many influential political figures around the world. Thus, I can be helpful in establishing peace and normalization of relations between Europe, the USA and the Russian Federation”, – said Berlusconi.
It seems the personal relationship Putin has with Silvio is solid. And everyone understands Silvio wants to get back on top of Italy. Like Sarkozy in France, these guys love power. Working with Putin is one way for them to regain their posts.
Will Sarkozy step up next?
Seems to me the article places way too much power to the US/EU side of the equation in this matter. The fact is that Russia will be able to supply Europe with gas through doubling of Nordstream to Germany, and also give Europe the opportunity to connect via Greece to the Turkish Stream.
By 2019 Russia will have built the added Nordstream, the Turkish Stream, financed the pipeline in Greece to connect through Macedonia and completed its new pipelines to China (where its gas supplies there will adequately insure revenues to replace the EU revenue stream is needed.
In this scenario, Russia (and Greece) has only to build the connection and wait for the EU/US to stop playing their games and connect before catastrophe hits. Russia is in the catbird’s seat and everyone should know that.
Gotta ove the press here in the west, citation: “Tsipras threatens the EU with a referendum”.
Democracy is a threat…
Makes perfect sense. Analogously, the brutal austerity is about rescuing Greece. The promised referendum is just ingratitude writ large.
Sorry bud, but you are totally wrong. It’s quite the opposite. It’s not to save the Greeks. Greece was doing fine before it “stepped into EU”. All the debts that Greece incurred are only because Greece was made to bailout cheating stock brokers and the banks that covered for brokers.
Do not worry, your country is doing the same, but you are wearing blinders on your eyes.
And your country happened to have Nokia to keep it going.
I was being sarcastic, mon petit :-) Also, Nokia is not a Swedish brand, paskapää.
No cold war coming. It was a ones only, for reasons. Wile the U.S, with friends, did go to extreme limits to save crumbling colonial property like Vietnam, the young protested with drugs an songs, hoping for a better world. Today,s playing field of influence is reduced to Africa and Ukraine. The now old young are leaders facing a truth thy can not except. Produce, make, and sell in competition with the whole, now free world. This truth, colonial world domination, ended by their own protest under influence. Greece is situated on a crossroad to dominate coming trade with the East. Like Western Atlantic ports in colonial times. Leaving the U.S irrelevant. The moment Greece breaks away others will step in to make it possible. This horror scenario is the natural outcome of worlds Columbus started discovering.
This is why Greece must be kept in the “slavery” mo matter the methods or costs (the costs would not be for Greece’s benefit).
It would be interesting to know where that ‘word’ is coming from. I am increasingly moving to the conviction Erdogan’s ‘neo-Ottomanism’ is essentially cultural – not political. But it’s the political (alleged) ‘ambition’ that’s being actively promoted through the MSM.
His political party has taken a dent from Kurdish sympathisers recently. And the Kurds themselves have been at the forefront of the battle against ISIL, especially in Kobani. The general view, is that he is pro- ISIL. Assad definitely thinks so and lays the blame for Syria’s invasion by the Takfiris squarely at his feet.
But…Turkey has, despite it’s traditional Muslim-observant population, become a major tourist destination for Europeans. It has absorbed a lot of European secularism quite comfortably, and has been seriously in the running for EU membership. Istanbul has always been a very cosmopolitan city. And Turkey is reliable enough for NATO membership..
NATO. This is the key. The truth of Turkish support for ISIL lies here. It exploited it’s Turkish presence to supply/support ISIL in north Syria, while using Erdogan’s apparent ‘caliphate’ ambitions as cover – and it’s presence and Intel intrigues as blackmail/threat. The French government was heavily invested in toppling Assad, as well as the US. NATO was the delivery mechanism.
I now think Erdogan is becoming perceived as unreliable due, in part to Turkstream. There are definite signs of attempts to stir unrest in Turkey – standard Empire of Chaos tactics.
Tho extent of the intrigues in the MENA is becoming laid bare, as this link shows:
(I know, I know it’s VT, but it’s not all disinfo – this includes screenshots of Clinton emails)
This is the place.
Many other nations on this planet are unable to pay their debts to the usurious world banks.
America’s colony, the repressed nation of Puerto Rico, has long hosted a poverty stricken economy (40% unemployment). They have been looted with a rare thoroughness of hundreds of $Billions over the past century, as their Independence leaders have been killed and jailed.
Ironically, the World bankers want the puppet government of occupied Puerto Rico to lower the Minimum Wage, (say what?!?), and raise property taxes on poor subsistance farmers (mostly in the south of Puerto Rico) who earn exactly NOTHING on their farm produce (other than grow enough food for their families to survive). The poor (Palestinian-er. Puerto Rican farmers would then be forced to sell their small farms to American businesses.
It is understood by many that within the Belly of the Beast, itself, the American people have run up a huge non repayable debt.
The solution for the huge debts owed the criminal Oligarchs is, of course, Revolution!!!
Jefferson’s solution is the only way out for humanity.
Thomas Jefferson favored the continual renewal of the American Revolution by each new generation creating a new constitution (and, thereby, a new constitutional government). This process would empower the new generations and serve to revive the quality of government in a process of Permanent Revolution. Jefferson wrote:
“Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to 19 years only.”
Jefferson further explained his approach to the next generation in his letter to James Madison:
“I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’:”
“Then I say the earth belongs to each of these generations, during it’s course, fully, and in their own right. The 2d. Generation receives it clear of the debts and incumberances of the 1st. The 3d of the 2d. and so on. For if the 1st. Could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not the living generation.”
For the Democratic Republics!
Cannot agree with that.
Do we give them scorched earth? are we to build only roads we can pay off in 19 years? why should they inherit no debt BUT get good roads, water on tap, electricity everywhere? for free? whole cities? whole civilisation?
They can have no debt and start all over in the caves, that would be fair.
‘Cannot agree with that.”
How dare you disagree with me? You should be horsewhipped!!!
Think of Jefferson’s, and my philosophy as a moral foundation. What has the older generation gifted to our children, and grandchildren? Wars, corrupt political systems run by greedy bloodthirsty Oligarchs, lies, boring educational (brainwashing) systems, re-runs of the Lawrence Welk show.
Of course, our children (next generations), freed of the above burdens, will be better than us, and take care of the precious gifts we bequeath them, life, freedom, prosperity, education, chocolate ice cream sodas, and they will take them to a higher level.
No more coffee for me!
For the Democratic Republics! IMAGINE
And my country, to its great shame, has done something similar, but even worse to the people of Haiti.
Of course, it was my intention to compare the economic situation of Puerto Rico, the Ukraine, the Third World, and even within the Belly of the Beast, with that of Greece.
As Canada’s Red Green says, “We’re all in this together.”
Turkey is the key chokepoint in pipeline war.
I was unpleasantly surprised when RF announced Turkstream. In the equal measure i was pleasantly surprised and happy with their decision to stop transporting gas thru Ukraine.
Closer ties with Erdogan? Considering his role in Syrian war, to name just one point of many, it sounded wrong.
But Erdogans power is waning. Unrest is rising among Turks with his rule. Kurds are rising also. Supported by USA and used as leverage against him. Although he is their ally and is doing what is told,they need more. And so we see him trying to balance the impossible. That is making his government very unpopular. Recurring pattern used by USA on their puppets. Always ask for more,destabilize current government,bring the new ones who now have year or two respite from the people who believe the change for the better is coming and are giving them time to do it. Change for the better never comes. Instead the general situation worsens,up to the point where there is only option left-violent overthrow of the puppet regime. Step very few are willing to take because that might leads to civil war and disintegration of the State.
That led me to think what is happening. Erdogan is aware that his days are numbered and is trying to stay in power. RF jumps in to offer him a helping hand. Leading Turkey away from Syria. But what next?
Kurdish question is the answer i believe. They are presently being used by USA and i am truly sorry for those people if they did not understood by now what is in store for them. When they discover it,or when the time is right and the time is nearing,they will try to change side.
Along with any sane people in Turkey they will try to wrestle power back and realign with RF,China and Iran. That will hasten the end of the war in Syria and stabilize whole region. Expel Daesh and cut off Israel and Saudi Arabia from a very valuable ally.
You may call this wishful thinking if you will. I call it an offensive against the Empire spearheaded by RF. Will it succeed is another question. War is not won by one battle. Sometimes war can be lost even when you win all the battles. But seeing RF going on the offensive is heartwarming.
Only time will tell…
It takes much more time to get to 2019 then to Tipperary and lots of things that sound true now will no longer be then ;)
However the immediate result of the declaration of intentions by Gazprom is reluctance of foreign investors to pay for the Ukraine gas transit network.
May I be allowed to bend the rules a little?
Just this once?
Because – KER-R-CHANG! Looks like all those colour revolutions are not delivering:
Wonder how FUKUS will greet this, given all its murderous intriguing with the Zionists in the M.E. ?
And will we hear of ‘increasing tensions’ between Hollande and Merkel?
Or have the French switched sides?