Do not expect the French medias, all owned by the French 1%, to be objective when speaking about the Yellow Vests. We shall then look at the Sputnik News France to get a fair vision of the phenomenon. Here is a translation made by Le Saker Francophone after the 8th act, hold on January 5th.
By Fabien Buzzanca – January 9th 2019 – Sputnik France
The Yellow Vests came back full throttle for the beginning of this year with their Act VIII. With demonstrations already planned for January 12th and the government having promised even more firmness to face the protesters, what is the feeling of the demonstrators? The law enforcement? Sputnik contacted both parties to provide an update.
With the kind of half truce we observed during the holidays, the government hoped that the yellow vest movement would not survive the end of the year. It has not been the case. As if the President’s offensive New Year wishes had blown over the embers, the flame of the protest that has been heating up France since 17 November has set off again in style. Starting with the breakage of Benjamin Griveaux’s State Secretariat door by some hot demonstrators, during the Act VIII on January 5th. Let’s skip the usual battle of numbers (50,000 demonstrators for the government, 300,000 for France Police -Policiers en colère [ a policemen union ]), the many photos circulating on social networks showed yellow processions all over the country.
The Yellow Vests don’t want to give up and have sent a strong message to the government. The resurgence of the protest came with its share of violence. In addition to the emergency exfiltration of the government spokesman [because of the door of his building has been broken by somme demonstrators], vehicles were set on fire in Paris, barricades were set up and a former boxer, Christophe Dettinger, played fists against the CRS on a footbridge in the capital.
In the provinces, the town hall of Rennes was attacked and clashes between demonstrators and police forces were observed in Nantes, Beauvais or Bordeaux. Non-exhaustive list.
“We only talk about violence, everything peaceful is ignored. The media have a large part of responsibility and stir up anger on the street. I was in Nice for Act VIII and everything went well. We talked to the police, we negotiated with them. The women successfully completed many peaceful marches on January 6 [French Women organized an only-female demonstration, thus preventing hooligans to infiltrate, just to show that the Yellow Vest movement is a non-violent one]. It was great,” explains Charlotte, a young mother who is very involved in the cause of the Yellow Vests on the French Riviera.
A message that did not fully reach the ears of Prime Minister Édouard Philippe. During the evening TV news of 8 pm on TF1 [the most viewed TV channel], he announced on January 7 a new “anti-hooligans” law and despite the approximately 2,000 wounded and mutilated since the beginning of the movement, he promised even more firmness:
“In many cities in France, the demonstrations took place peacefully, but we cannot accept that some people use these demonstrations to go too far, to break, to burn. These people will never have the last word in our country.”
In addition to tougher penalties for hooligans, the prime minister also announced the creation of a highly controversial list of people banned from demonstrations, based on the model of stadium bans. Several judges are already denouncing the risks of infringements on citizens’ freedoms.
For Michel Thooris, general secretary of the France Police -Policiers en colère union, who is also upwind against the measure, it is necessary to make a clear distinction between the hooligans and the Yellow Vests. He denounces a certain confusion purposely made by the government:
“These types of individuals, who will break down a government building’s door, are professional hooligans and not Yellow Vests. It’s easy to wear a yellow vest for a hooligan. I think it is a manipulation of the government to make the French public think that these actions are the result of the Yellow Vests. I dispute this version of the facts. I am a professional used to policing and I know very well that it was not ordinary Yellow Vests that did this and set up an operation of this magnitude. These hooligans are used to infiltrate demonstrations to engage in violence that we condemn. They take advantage of the Yellow Vest movement as they take advantage of social movements in general, May 1st or sporting events. They are detrimental to the movement, but they are not Yellow Vests at all.”
Grégoire [not his real name], a Gilet jaune from Paris who followed almost all the rallies since November 17 considers that the government’s strategy will worsen the situation: “Édouard Philippe’s speech pours an oil tank on the fire of the revolt. By talking only about hooligans and repression, without mentioning the political requests of the Yellow Vests, still supported by 55% of the French [60% on January 10th], he encourages the anger of the country and increases the risk of radical actions. With regard to these actions, it was funny to watch the elites horrified by the degradation of the door of a government’s building with a pallet truck. They think that the broadcast of such a video will denigrate the Yellow Vests, ignoring that a good part of the French are looking at these images with jubilation and an irresistible desire to applaud.”
Alexandre Langlois, general secretary of the Vigi-CGT-Police union, wondered about a possible strategy of the tension played by the State:
“It seems as if they are working to achieve this result. That is the feeling police officers have when they see how they are being led in the field. There is a desire for an escalation of violence in order to undermine the credibility of the movement rather than provide political answers to the Yellow Vests. The State can no longer continue to play confrontation, given the state of exhaustion of the police forces and the fact that some of them support the Yellow Vests’ proposals on purchasing power. These tensions are created by people in offices, people that never receive any blows.”
“At the end of our demonstration, we went to thank the cops and say hello… It’s sad to say, but they do their job. And for the moment, I have only good experiences with them…”, says Charlotte. Like her, many Yellow Vests continue to call on the police to support them. But for others, the exchange of blows between the two sides, demonstration after demonstration, created a deleterious climate.
The “battle of the jackpot” is a good example. A fundraising campaign had been launched to support Christophe Dettinger [The boxer who give some strikes to a CRS] and his family and help him pay his legal fees. Faced with the controversy caused by the huge amount collected in less than 48 hours (more than 115,000 euros), Leetchi, a Crédit Mutuel subsidiary [a French bank], decided to close the collect.
In the wake of this story, the President of the LR [a right party] of the Provence-Alpes-Côte d’Azur region, Renaud Muselier, launched his own collect, this time in support of the police. It already exceeds 175,000 euros in donations.
Is the divide widening between demonstrators and law enforcement? “I don’t think we’re falling into hatred. There are strong tensions with some Yellow Vests that do not understand – and I can understand it – why they find themselves very restricted when they come to demonstrate. And unfortunately, when violence is committed by thieves and our colleagues retaliate, they can be affected. But I think the population is smart enough to understand that it is imperative to maintain law and order and fight the hooligans. We cannot let a group of individuals enter the National Assembly and destroy everything,” said Michel Thooris.
“France is a century behind on the issue of policing. Our staff are very well trained, but the authorities and senior management must also use them wisely to avoid injuries. In the countries of North Europe there are models that work very well with a de-escalation of violence. In France, the government and the Ministry of the Interior have chosen to show their muscle and go to confrontation. But we are the ones who receive the paving stones, not them, because of their lack of a political response to a social problem. We hope to stop taking blows because of these people and hope that they will be responsible enough to get out of the crisis we are in. Otherwise, the wounded will continue to increase and we will never get out of it.”
While Charlotte admits that the police “only carry out orders”, she is concerned about the spiral of violence that causes injuries on both sides: “We have had Yellow Vests that have had their hands ripped off, some ebony, others mutilated. People whose lives will never be the same anymore. And they even weren’t hooligans! And you know what is the result? It is a bare-handed guy boxing the CRS or people who forget who the real enemy is and take it out on the cops!”
“I would like to remind you once again that the police officers only comply with the orders of the administrative authority. They obey the prefects, who themselves have instructions from the Ministry of the Interior. The level of severity of policing is defined by politics and if today we see an extreme firmness – if not something else – towards the Yellow Vests, it is not the wish of my colleagues”, Michel Thooris insists.
Gregory also regrets this situation and holds the government accountable: “The gap between the people and decision-makers seems insurmountable. The elites are completely losing it and are becoming more and more enraged. All those who attended the rallies noted that the orders consist in also attacking the weakest pacifists (young women, the elderly) in order to reduce the rallies to a handful of unpopular hooligans. But it seems that the solidarity between the Yellow Vests is indestructible, as is their determination.”
For the Yellow Vests and police officers interviewed by Sputnik France, it is on the political side that the solution to end the clashes will come. As Alexandre Langlois explains:
“The majority of the French support the movement on issues of purchasing power. They want to live and no longer survive. They want to be able to enjoy a little bit of life and the fruits of their labour. According to Mr. Macron, work pays off, well, it’s time to act. Signals sent, such as the freezing of the wages indexation for civil servants or the absence of an end-of-year bonus as requested to the private sector, go in the opposite direction. And in the meantime, we change the carpets at the Elysée [the presidential palace]… And before taxing off the overtime, just pay it first. I would remind you that in the national police force, we are at 1,300 years of unpaid overtime.”
Michel Thooris has the same opinion: “The government is sending signals that are just adding fuel to the fire. They spend their time insulting the Yellow Vests without responding to any of their demands. As early as November 17, I said that the response to this crisis must be political. You have a simple measure to take: the citizens’ initiative referendum or RIC. The next day, the demonstrations will stop and the Yellow Vests will go back home. The government is in a position where it wants to show the muscles and not give in. I think Emmanuel Macron knows that he has lost all chance of a second term and will seek to force through the measures expected by the establishment that set him up.”
According to RTL [a popular French radio], “216 people linked to the violence were imprisoned between 17 November and 17 December”, a “record figure, unprecedented in the context of a social movement”. On 20 December, the Ministry of the Interior reported 1,843 “civilian” and 1,048 law enforcement injuries. Since then, these figures have increased. According to Libération [ a French corporate newspaper], ten people have died on the fringes of the movement since November 17, including three Yellow Vests. As Charlotte reminds us: “We have already had deaths and unfortunately I am afraid that it will keep on.”
“We’re facing Yellow Vests that have little left to lose. They suffer, do not have enough money to reach the end of the month, do not eat properly. The determination is there. And until the political response is up to the task, it will not stop. How far can this go? It’s hard to say. But from act to act, from demonstration to demonstration, violence multiplies, a minority of Yellow Vests becoming more and more radical. We, as a police union, are very concerned that we will end up with more deaths during the clashes in the demonstrations. If this is the case, I don’t see how the government can maintain its position as the head of the country,” Michel Thooris points out.
This point of view is supported by the general secretary of the Vigi-CGT-Police union:
“If the political response is up to the task, people will go back home. There may still be some individuals who want to go further, but given their small number, the police will be perfectly capable of supervising them and they will not have the massive support of the population,” says Alexandre Langlois.
Act IX is already announced on social networks. On the different groups of demonstrators, the determination seems intact. On the government side, the announced security system will include no less than 80,000 police officers throughout the country, including 5,000 in Paris. This is the level of security that was in place… mid-December.
Translated by Le Saker Francophone
Any way we can support them?
They are leading the way.. Can we send them bitcoins?
Reply to Z on January 11, 2019 · at 2:15 pm EST/EDT Any way we can support them ?
They are leading the way.. Can we send them bitcoins ? https://thesaker.is/gilets-jaunes-sitrep/#comment-602634
Support them firstly by taking everything you read about them in the press with a pinch of salt. Whether on Sputnik or articles relayed by the Saker Community. For example this police union member Michel Thooris (Cf. extract infra) appears conciliatory and very plausible. (Cf. On the right in this UFPJ (Union Française Juive pour la Paix video : https://youtu.be/jjkxTZNVrng). In fact he’s a shill for the Jewish Zionist lobby and Political Advisor – on Security – for Marine Le Pen and the Rassemblement national (ex Front National party),
Her performance during the 2017 presidential election debate was crucial in getting Emmanuel Macron elected. Police in Paris lend their premises to French Jewish terrorist organisations BETAR and Ligue de Défense Juive for paramilitary training purposes.
«For Michel Thooris, general secretary of the France Police – Policiers en colère union, who is also upwind against the measure, it is necessary to make a clear distinction between the hooligans and the Yellow Vests. He denounces a certain confusion purposely made by the government: “These types of individuals, who will break down a government building’s door, are professional hooligans and not Yellow Vests. It’s easy to wear a yellow vest for a hooligan. I think it is a manipulation of the government to make the French public think that these actions are the result of the Yellow Vests. I dispute this version of the facts. I am a professional used to policing and I know very well that it was not ordinary Yellow Vests that did this and set up an operation of this magnitude. These hooligans are used to infiltrate demonstrations to engage in violence that we condemn. They take advantage of the Yellow Vest movement as they take advantage of social movements in general, May 1st or sporting events. They are detrimental to the movement, but they are not Yellow Vests at all” …».
PS Former boxer Christophe Dettinger now on remand till 13th February 2019 risks five years in gaol for championing les Gilets jaunes and defending a man and a woman – Gilets jaunes – clubbed to the ground by Gendarmes Mobiles. For protesting against pesticides and ‘defacing’ the town hall using water-based pigments to paint ‘poppies’ paints on the entrance steps, 38 year old French nurse Katia Lock, fined 500€ in Reims. She’s refusing to pay an extra 250€ to finance ‘community service’ course as part of her sentence. Source :
And here I find some truths, that for me go back to 1969 and the Anti-Vietnam War demonstrations in Melbourne. And Again in later demonstrations in, I think that occurred in Canada where police undercover units posed as demonstrators and behaved in a manner most questionable. and were uncovered.
I would concur that the mob that broke down the door had to have been police agitators, as that has always been the behaviour of police undercover units with the reason of simply usurping the integrity of the Yellow Vests..
I would hope that the Yellow Vests investigate for themselves and endeavour to discover the identity of those hooligans, and any others who try to hijack the movement for the French government.
Never forget that governments fight dirty.
There is a fundraising set up for the 65-70 mutilees or severely injured by flash-ball or grenades (police brutality: https://twitter.com/PorteTonAme/status/1084126803537596417). It was set up by Eric Drouet, the coordinator of “La France en colère” facebook group, the guy who initiated the GJ movement.
They don’t need your money .They need you to do the same thing in your own country .
what we need is gypsi boxfighters to run upfront. Some from south of France we expected (but some popular videos) but didn’t show up…. Sure gvt paid back something for them just like with Jaqueline the woman who made the rant video at the origin of the movement. she made a 180 is now about to go into politics in a pro Macron party.Sure her house credit was paid back! :)
Good to see the straight dope on YV.
Seems like the Mac-man is in over his head, overwhelmed by the old problem of Qis Custodet… His mother is pretty though…and tall enough to hide him? No.
Mac’s clients cannot do for themselves, they rely on unionized French cops, who themselves are of the class being looted.
Divide to rule? It’s not working…France she is fubar…and all that…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsg9i6lvqU starts @ 0:23 Enjoy!
“it would be absurd that a guardian should need a guard.” So, since Mac-man and his clients obviously need guards, they themselves are not guardians of Liberty and France… (the quote is from The Republic).
Thus one realizes that Mac-man’s clients are, ah, “something other”…. Thieves? Traitors?
Therefore we expect them to double, perhaps with a Very Large Gladio-op? I mean, surrender is not permitted, ergo…
Here is the video of the third photo.
“ Rockie “ music to make it more fun.
Macron is basically a puppet narcissistic psychopath who compares himself to the Roman God Jupiter and surrounds himself with symbols such as that of the Free Masons and even those from satanic rites (perhaps taken from the Book of Satan)
Amazingly, Macron has even adopted the slogan “La Republic en Marche” (LREM), that is almost identical to “La France en Marche” used by the Vichy government
Macron and his LREM movement has a goal of transforming France into a fascist corporate state using many of the strategies of Benito Mussolini in hopes of ultimately making it into a vassel state to the EU super-state dictatorship.
This EU dictatorship is basically applying the Angola Variant strategy to force (conquer) the French people into submission.
The Yellow Vest (Gilets Jaunes) revolution in France is ultimately against this neo-liberal corporate (inverted) totalitarianism also described by Chris Hedges:
David Korten predicted this many years ago in his book “ When Corporations Rule the Earth”. More recently, Michael Hudson expanded this prediction to be due primarily to the Financial, Insurance and Real Estate (FIRE) renter components of capitalism in his book “Killing the Host”
Charles Hugh Smith has described this system as “A built-in financial hierarchy with corporations at the top dominating a vast populace of debt-serfs/ wage slaves with little functional freedom to escape the system’s neofeudal bonds.”
Finally, Marx was right when he predicted that finance-capital would come to dominate industrial capital and the state.
The French are learning that neo-liberal globalism destroys internal economies creating rural economic deserts and makes the citizens neofeudal serfs to the technocrats like something out of the science fiction series “Foundation”. Perhaps they are awakening to the words of Albert Camus who writes in his classic The Plague (the character Tarrou): “All I maintain is that on this earth there are pestilences and there are victims.”
The Macron regime generally does not have the support of the French military (and certainly not the common soldiers). Recently, ten retired generals and an admiral have even accused Macron of treason for signing the UN Migration Pact(s).
The former chief of General Staff, General Pierre De Villiers resigned in 2017 when Macron wanted to summarily fire him for having resisted Macron’s destructive globalism. While I personally have issues with the motives of De Villiers, here is a perspective:
Likewise, high-ranking commanders of the national police have opposed Macron. Bertrand Soubelet (four star) Chief of Operations for the National Gendarmerie retired as soon as he found out the composition of the corrupt Macron government.
The Compagnies Républicaines de Sécurité (CRS) general for Paris, Marc Granié, was arrested by the Police Prefect of Paris for opposing Macron while in full dress uniform. After soviet style confinement for three months he was “retired”.
Macron is using the military police assigned to the Interior ministry to beat the yellow vests that constitute about 70-80 percent of the French people into submission.
Macron appears to lack the support of many of the National police gendarmerie and the Compagnies Républicaines de Sécurité (CRS) of the Interior ministry. The VIGI union was recently appealing to the sworn officers to go on sick leave to avoid ruining their mental health. This union is also suing the Interior Ministry for hundreds thousands of hours of overtime that has not been paid. The major non-military local police unions, including Alliance, UNSA-Police and Unity-SGP-FO, also recently protested over violence by the military police and for pay and working conditions. For now, Macron has bought them all off pending further negotiations.
Macron’s lack of full support among the military police is evident by the presence of EU flagged armored vehicles in Paris belonging to EU private army called Eurogendfor. Numerous sources have observed that many of the “CRS” in Paris are actually Eurogendfor private militia who in m any cases do not even speak French. http://www.brujitafr.fr/2018/12/france-un-blinde-nomme-hermes.html
This trend toward private corporate run police is described in the report titled “Evolutions et mutations de la sécurité privée” (in French).
France, like the rest of the Western world, is facing a wide range of failed institutions. System dynamics model demonstrates that those in power (insiders) , such as Macron, seek to prevent their power from being diminished.
This French revolution reminds me of the old French joke Cousin Pierre told me from the sixties about French freedom “Liberte.Egalite.Fraternite.”, where the periods are called pointes which translates to “Liberte non, Egalite non Fraternite non. At least the French have now rediscovered Fraternite. The best representation of the Gilets Jaunes revolution is the poster:
Macron = Destitution
Gouvernement = Demission
Systeme = Abolition
Ultimately, the French people will defeat the Macron regime and his collaborators and replace it with something similar to the model of Switzerland. It will unfortunately be very violent much like that described in the song “parie colere” by Mireille Marteau
Thanks for this amazing ipost.
I couldn’t read all of the links, but I did listen to the marvelous video of Mireille Mathieu.
A revelation. I had heard her name but never really knew who she was.
I hope any readers here will take the time to listen to this marvelous singer. And song.
What powerful voice, in both senses of the word.
I appreciate the kind comments by you and Tomsk.
As for solutions, I hope that France can lead the way toward localization. Such an effort would allow for less energy consumption and a greater sense of community.
Unfortunately, all institutions are corrupted by insiders who serve their interests over that of the people and would rather destroy the system than give up power. The French crisis leaves me with sadness for the pain of the French people and reminds me of the song “SOS” from the French Rock Opera Starmania. Here is the best version sung by Dimash while in China:
A powerful ad extremely informative comment with much to look into and learn. Thank you Krollchem for posting this and to the Saker for publishing.
We are all “yellow vests” and the brave efforts of the French people signify the inevitable clash between humanity and global corporate Zionist fascism.
Just a minor remark: Mireille Mathieu.
I instantly fell in love with MM’s music already as a kid — I owe pretty much of my French to her.
Regarding social protests, here is Mireille’s French version of The ballad of Sacco and Vanzetti (she starts singing at 1’16’’):
Upon becoming President, Macron turned the clock back and began giving the French elite the status which the French aristocracy had in 1789. Any more of this, and France will get a new 1789. What will cetainly worry Brussels is the fact that we are beginning to see an anti-elitist feeling rise in Europe. It was inevitable.
Is there any chance that we see the English translation of the comments made on Yellow Vest movement by Alain Soral and Dieudonné ??? Can Le Saker Francophone do us that little favour?
One of the reasons why I love so much the Saker blog is because he informed us a few years ago about this two remarkable French persons and used to publish here their videos with English subtitles. I hope to see that again, this time connected to the Yellow Wests.
Soral speaks here, wearing the yellow vest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsHca0L830Q
Dieudonné here, also wearing the yellow vest:: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_MpYTzdoMw
It was Saker who announced the new revolution in France back in 2013., writing about these two, here : https://thesaker.is/is-a-new-revolution-quietly-brewing-in-france/.
So now is the real moment to hear what this two brave men have to say. (in English, please,, for us who do not speak French.)
Thank you for the link to the 2013 article, that’s quite remarkable! It provides a much better context to what is going on with the Gilets Jaunes than just observing the news. I agree it would be incredibly useful to have some kind of summary or translation into english of what Soral and Dieudonné has to say today, as I am among those who cannot read or understand French good enogh to follow it.
Yes, the Saker predicted the revolution back in 2013. It would therefore be of enormous significance that we get the translation of this video by Soral : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsHca0L830Q
I hope that somebaody who can help us reads this.
Turn on subtitles, then click Settings > Subtitles > Translate > English. The automatic translation is very crude, but it’s better than nothing. Only works on Dieudonné video, though.
Thanks, Sergei. Better than nothing.
However, it would really be nice to hear what Soral has to say.
Breaking News: Tulsi Gabbard has announced she will be running for president in 2020.
She is the ONLY congresswoman that I know of who has EVER dared to challenge the US Foreign policy regime’s narratives on Syria, and she even called out the US for supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria. She also met with Bashar, knowing it was a politically dangerous thing to do. She has courage, and isn’t afraid to tell the truth. I doubt there will be any other potential candidates who have these qualities.
She might not be perfect in every respect, but she is already the best possible choice we have for a 2020 upset and to potentially turn this sinking fucking ship around before it devolves into a full-scale nuclear or civil war.
May God be with her.
Finally, someone who could make a difference. However, she is totally incompatible with deep state fascist, and thus, her chances of getting there alive are really slim. But, miracles do happen. What a beautiful world we could live in if those bastards disappear from the scene. I do pray she finds a way and support to stop this madness.
I will be giving everything I have for this woman. It will take all of our collective power. I say we at-least try and make it happen.
She is a member of the council of foreign relations, CFR.
This news also came up on the Moveable Feast thread so I’ll paste my comment here as well, in the interests of full disclosure and knowing the difference between frying pans and fires:
‘She is also an avowed disciple (from the cradle) of a self-styled guru who runs an outfit called ‘Science of Identity’, a leftover from the heady cult-utopia days of the 1970s, a breakaway group from the Hare Krishnas.
That doesn’t necessarily negate anything she says and does– but it does tell you who is manipulating the strings, a white Hawaiian godman, for his own purposes.’
Tulsi Gabbard as US President — well, if that would seem a real possibility, then there is a very real danger of her ending up like Rosa Luxemburg (the centennial of her brutal murder takes place on January 15th), should the US Elite be riled up at the prospect. Gun-toting Pindos forever high on reactionary paranoia and corporate fascist misculture wouldn’t hesitate to take action when their beloved betters let it be known what is to be done.
Maybe. But extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. She has to try. There are methods to ensure she does not become a martyr for the cause, and furthermore, she deserves our full support.
While I admired her stance on Syria, the following gives serious reservations about whether the woman is genuine:
“Russia has violated the sovereignty and independence of the Ukrainian people, in direct contravention of its own treaty obligations and international law,” said Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, an Army combat veteran and member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “I support the sanctions announced today, and I strongly urge the President to go further and consider a broader range of consequences. If Russia is allowed to continue its aggressive push for control in Ukraine, there will be long-term, serious, and costly security risks for the United States and Europe. Russia must face serious consequences for their actions; the U.S. must consider options that truly isolate Russia economically and diplomatically—not just sanction a handful of oligarchs—and send a message of unity and strength from the international community.
“We cannot stand by while Russia unilaterally degrades Ukraine’s territorial integrity. We must offer direct military assistance—defensive weapons, military supplies and training—to ensure Ukraine has adequate resources to respond to Russia’s aggressions and defend themselves. We cannot view Ukraine as an isolated incident. If we do not take seriously the threat of thinly veiled Russian aggression, and commit to aiding the people of Ukraine immediately, we will find ourselves in a more dangerous, expensive and disastrous situation in the future.”
Also leary of her views of Muslim people.
An obama mk. 2 or trump mk.2?
On an anecdotal note, I recall she first started making waves, shortly after it became clear there was an anti-war and libertarian voting base that would either vote for Rand Paul or Donald Trump, during the last American Presidential election season.So a finely packaged Democrat option to appeal to those voters?Good-looking,female,ex-military,Democrat plus the timing makes me think she’s someone’s puppet and/or co-opt agent.
Since I do not trust the right-wing tilt of outlets like Sputnik and RT that all strongly favor very right-wing points of views, I thought I’d pass along this link.
It features the voice of Saker writer Mr. Ramin Mazaheri as PressTV’s correspondent in France.
There are other reports out there beyond French government and government-allied media. For example, I noticed that Telesur which comes from Cuba and Venezuela also has a report today. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Yellow-Vests-Clash-With-Police-in-Paris-as-Hundreds-Arrested-20181201-0023.html
Mr. Mazaheri is in the embedded video. Since that was obviously a clip (32 min) of live tv coverage, I went to the Presstv site and clicked on the Watch Live link and found more coverage.
Wondering how long before fascist regime use NewsGuard app ratings and impose complete blackout on alternative news sources? It is probably good time to look into creating countermeasure certificate released and certified by internationally recognized intellectuals, artists, spiritual leaders, in short, any public figure whose voice is heard far and wide and stand for justice firmly.
It is a fake revolution that comes packaged with its own colour, photoshopped images, mainstream coverage and nonsense demands about tinkering the tax laws. Nothing about nationalizing the banks, ending mass migration and rooting out the Zionists embedded in money-making,culture making and lawmaking.
A totally fabricated “revolution” like all the other revolutions we’ve experienced since 1789. Wake up people!
I’m glad that even one person on this site thinks.
Look at the hermit tarot card on cover of the Economist 2017 magazine. A sea of Yellow protesters marching through… This is a controlled operation.
You’ve all forgotten: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Macron won election 14 may 2017, the domain giletsjaunes.com was registered the day after.
Yes but the movement’s website is “lesgiletsjaunes.fr” (created end of 2018), and not “Giletsjaunes.com” which apparently was used for some educational reform purposes, and then expired..
Looks like perry’s predigested talking point fell flat. :-D
Question is: who created this line of attack propaganda for the perrys to spam about the web?
There may be some truth in the above. But it is too late.
Now it is “game on”.
The more passive the people are the more the elite take.
It may not matter who started “the great unravelling” so much as who finishes it.
I looked at the image you linked to, and I don’t think it’s what you claim it is.
Yes, the figures in that crowd are yellow, but yellow is used throughout the entire magazine cover (including all eight cards), probably playing off the color of Trump’s hair.
Fake revolutions cannot operate unless there are factors making a real revolution desirable in a large number of people, as we see… Because of this fact, it often happens that the fake revolution is subsumed by a real one.
It may be that both are present at this moment…it is quite clear that agent-provocateurs are in operation anyway.
The factors and pre-revolutionary “ground” are in place…and not simply in France.
“They” intend to steal everything and leave prole “nutzlossenvolk” such as we to die and become slaves.
If this is ok, then there is no revolution. It is not ok, ergo…
I usually get my Gilets Jaunes news from Twitter # Giletsjaunes
Looks like it was an intense day…the movement is gathering pace…
Is anyone in France to give us an update?
Can you check the twitter account of “Armani Salado”? He seems to have it realtime…is it accurate?
Yellow Vests in London today, a small but significant crowd as a starter, with some good pics:
Gee, three months of demonstrations and still no cookies . .
C’est bien vrai. Marie Antoinette est morte depuis quelques années, mdr!
I think this was more of a reference to Nuland (I brought cookies) & Ukraine than 1789 :).
Compris. Comme je l’ai expliqué ici plusieurs fois dèjà, c’est Mme Nuland qui a bien profité de la perspicacité de la reine française 225 ans auparavant. Contrairement à Marie Antoinette, Victoria Nuland n’a pas hésité à passer à l’action. Je vous dis seulement ceci: Quel succès fou!
Yes, I was referring to Victoria Nuland’s visit to Ukraine in 2014.
Let them eat cookies.
I wrote a polite answer in French which didn’t pass the moderator/s on duty. Second attempt in English:
Understood. As I’ve already said on several occasions here, it was Victoria Nuland who took advantage of Marie Antoinette’s perspicacity by having the guts to really take action.
Anyway no time for defeatism !
Let’s get the whole world singing along with the gilets jaunes.. We are the many, they are the few.
This is so catchy, once you hear it you will be singing it too ! And it has a pungent message. The French at their very best..
In French of course but with English subtitles..
‘Do not expect the French medias, all owned by the French 1%, to be objective when speaking about the Yellow Vests.’
True, but having control of media does not mean they have to always spread negative stories about their opponents, considering the current reputation of mass media, it is also possible for those who control mass media to do the opposite(ie; spread negative stories about those they support and spread positive stories about those they are against, through mass media – a reverse psychology of sorts, to use the mass media’s negative reputation and lack of credibility to their advantage).
Not that I’m saying that this is the case with Yellow Vests, I simply don’t know.Whether the Yellow Vests are genuine or not, is something that will become clear with time.In any case the fate of France is for the French to decide, for good or ill.
Would be a surprise if they are genuine and not controlled opposition. Your absolutely right about the elites trick, bashing what they want to grow, but infiltrate the leadership. So the globalists are now nurturing nationalism. Then they can present their strongmen that will enforce law and order, fascist police state. The people will hurray their new slavery.
To clarify, I only noted that as a possibility, not as fact – as I wrote, I simply don’t know which was the case – but the fact those who control the mass media can publish(or censor) any story they like(and change narratives as they please) is something that should be kept in mind.
Also globalists nurturing nationalism is a bit of a oxymoron, for globalists that would be like digging their own grave – even if they infiltrate the leadership, such things can only go so far(and certainly not a long term solution).Either way, time will tell.
I know it looks weird, but I can assure you that the movement clearly has no leader, that the coordinators are genuine working class guys, and that people do really improvise the demonstrations. And the blood in the streets is reel.
May be some people helped to trigger it, as its preparation got some coverage in the zionist TVnetworks, but I can assure you it is today out of control.
The only explanation I can find is that the power would have helped to trigger it in order to crush it and install despair and resignation people’s minds. Still, I doubt it, because it could be seen in December that all powerful people were genuinely shocked and afraid, including Macron, after the riots in Paris.
No movement can be headless. Maybe there is no leader, or maybe the leader carefully stays in the shadows, which is a right approach. Also, there has to be at least a group of people who coordinate the protests.
Not to change the subject. But as I said it few days ago. Greece is beginning to boil against the commie controlled coalition government. Right after the Merkel’s visit, which saw unprecedented security measures. Kammenos, the head of the lesser part of the coalition government resigned his post as minister of defense and said that although many of his people joined Syriza, he is dropping the coalition. So, even though Tsipras came on TV and fed Greek people all kinds of Classic Communist BS his days are numbered. Mind you, as per one of leaders of another opposition party, he was summoned to German and US Embassies for lectures and orders to support Tsipras. This coming Sunday Athens is going to see hopefully huge Patriotic non-party protest.
Greek events which were in preparation since mid December demonstrate that, Yellow Vests must be under and most likely are experiencing the same Neo-Con attack under the covers.
On the contrary, movements can indeed be headless, common cause/common spirit/shared ideology/common enemy, any of these things(among others) can take the place of a leader(or rallying point).In fact I’d argue in a lot of cases having a head/leader is a matter of convenience than the real state of things.Likewise, having a group of people to coordinate is only one way of coordinating.Also leading from the shadows, well, it’s not very inspiring – isn’t that what the self-appointed rulers of the West already do?
There are coordinators everywhere, and the Agora is Facebook, includings polls
No, there is no leader, because GJ reject any leader: people have seen what happened to Syriza in Greece.
Personally, I wouldn’t recommend using Facebook, not only can you be censored, but those who control Facebook servers can take control of any account and pretend to be that person(and edit anyone’s posts) at any given time, likewise poll numbers could easily be faked/manipulated.
You are right, but FB is unfortunately the best tool available. The problem for any organization trying to manipulate profiles, is the sheer number of participants.
The main FB group of GJ (Eric Drouets’s group, related to Paris actions) has 350 000 users.
Another FB group related to Macron outing has 3,5 millions profiles…
As matters stand, there is a very reliable litmus test available by which to gauge today’s political movements in general and those centered in Europe in particular:
What is the movement’s take on Russia’s ascendancy internationally?
So far, I haven’t found any statement by the GJ on the matter. Most likely, there is dispute and/or disinterest regarding the subject, the prevalent view being that ”Russia is Russia and France is France”. But from what I’ve read, the GJ are officially anti-EU and anti-NATO. If this is sincere, they will be heavily smeared as Kremlin trolls and terrorists, if they are not already. So they will have to express some official stance, and then it’s either:
a) Follow in the despicable Left’s footsteps — vehemently condemn Russia, while shouting innocent, innocent for the benefit of bourgeois respectability
b) Contribute to the demise of Western imperialism by aligning their national strategy for France with Russia’s political strategy for Europe, and let the MSM rage and fume all it wants.
People from the government have tried to smear the movement, saying it was supported by Russia, then Italy, and even the CIA. They were ridiculed in the media by the yellow vests, people saying that the government people were conspirationnists.
Also, what makes this movement genuine, is that it does not have specific political goal: GJ do not say they are anti-this or pro-that. They are coming from the full political spectrum, and just say:
– power back to the people (direct democracy): RIC (citizen triggered referendum). We will see what we do with this power after, as we are all very different.
– immediate social justice, less taxes for the poor and more for the riches and for the corporations (this would generate a budget increase, not compatible with the EU….).
Still, everybody understand that the enemies are the banks and the ploutocracy.
Act 9 was a success, more people than @ act 8. Passed the holidays season, mouvement is gaining traction once again
The number of police cited by the government was nearly the same as for the number of protesters cited by the government: 80k and 84k.
Yet all video showed protesters outnumbering police by scores to one.
So presumably the government under-reported the number of GJs by a factor of 10 at least?
Any comments from those in France on this?
From the very first day of the movement, it has been impossible to establish accurate numbers, because there are demonstrations everywhere in the country, in each city and on some roadblocks. What can be said is that in the cities, the numbers given by the administration in a given place has to be multiplied by a factor 2 to 5.
A police union (“France Police en Colère”) gave each week-end much higher numbers of demonstrators (320 000 in France for the last saturday). I think those numbers can be considered as the most accurates.
even fake news BFM TV (our CNN) admitted there were more people last week-end than the previous one.
otherwise Police en colere syndicate is the most reliable source sor far, at least for more than interior ministry
system is so much scared that they have many contingency plans up their sleeve:
a- mild one is wiith Juppé the other contender who lost the right primaries but that they system wanted at second run of the election. The fact the judges are after Fillion again is to make sure he couldn’t be PM for a cohabitation government should Macron wish to call early parliamentary elections (damage control).
b- as in plan B, Genereal de Villiers, a fake rebel, pro-nato General, nothing like De Gaule, or today’s Gl Piquemal or Gl Didier Tauzin.
c- current, smokescreens on ‘national debates’ baering in mind that previous instances on immigrations ect where total failures.
this “weekend revolution” is pointless
“protests” are pointless
if these people really wanted to change something (and anywhere in the world)
all you need is a boycott
it does not require “elections” or “protests” (which only lead to more police powers) to be successful
it is enough to redirect everyday financial support, time and energy that people pour into corporations and institutions, to local alternatives
but this is impossible because most people can not imagine life without a shepherd and associate only within the system
that’s why it is as it is
it’s easy for them to put a flag under which they will march
and they will not realize that they are sitting in someone else’s trenches
they can’t even give up social cia media
“revolution” on twitter or facebook – can there be something more pathetic?
“but this is impossible because most people can not imagine life without a shepherd and associate only within the system”.
This is why the GJ movement is so useful: each day passing, more people study and understand what is globalism. One main effect of the protests has been the renewal of reel social exchanges and solidarities, and the realization that so many people previously isolated were thinking the same thing. This is what is so powerful, and even if the demonstrations fail, people involved will find other means to fight, as they can now “live without a sheperd.”
Gilets Jaunes do need money because their plan is to burn Macron and what he stands for to the ground – if they must. But those who work for the state are always stronger, always well armed and better organized with infiltrators and dirty tactics.They know which side their bread is buttered on and will act accordingly. So the chances of Gilets Jaunes winning are slim. It would takes tens and tens of millions to join their fight, to scare the hell out of the little Toy Boy Macron.