Honestly, I never thought the day would come where I would have anything good to say about the Russian “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition but apparently this day has come today. To my surprise, all the leaders of this opposition have so far made very moderate and reasonable statement and all those which I have heard have apparently dismissed the notion that the Kremlin was behind the murder. Now this might be self-evident for most of us, but for the Russian “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition this is quite a change of tone. Many have even said that this murder was a “provocation” (which in this context means “false flag”!) to destabilize Russia and create a crisis. Even Irina Khakamada, normally a real crackpot, has said that this was either a “provocation” or the action of a small group of extremists.
Maybe they are aware that the Russian public will not “buy” it, maybe MH17 was too clearly a false flag, or maybe they simply had a momentary moment of decency, but as far as I know nobody pointed the finger at Putin (okay, somebody somewhere probably did, I am just not aware of it). Again, this is quite remarkable.
Everybody, pro and anti Kremlin, agree that it is absolutely essential that this crime be solved. Since I personally believe that this was a US/UK organized false flag, I fully expect that somebody will be found and, as we say in Russian, that the “(trail) end will end in the water” meaning that there will be no proof of western involvement. If fact, even if the FSB *does* come across such proof, the Russians will most likely not make it public but use it behind the scenes. As for those who organized it, they also need somebody to get caught because if nobody ever gets caught, then this looks way too professional, but if a small cell of, say, rabid anti-Semitic nationalists, does get caught, then that exculpates all other possible suspects. Considering that the crime happened 200m away from the Kremlin, and that the city center is laced with cameras, I fully expect an arrest in the next 48 hours, a week max.
The bottom line is that in Russia this false flag is already a clear failure, not even the notorious Russian “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition wants to touch this thing. This is very good news indeed. In the West, of course, this is a different story, the AngloZionist will use that to a max, no doubt here at all.
PS: while we are discussing false flags, I often get the question of why Putin does not say that 9/11 was in inside job even though he must know. Well, of course he knows, but ask yourself a simple question: why would he say anything? What would Russia gain from doing this? This would only further demonize him, and Russia, in the eyes of those who believe the official fairy tale and it would do nothing at all for Putin or Russia. As for the fact – they are all out in the open, and have been for a long time, just as the JFK murder or Gladio, 7/7, the Bologna railway station bombing, Charlie-Hebdo and all the rest of them. It is simply not Putin’s job to share info with the western public, his job is to serve the Russian people. Finally, though I personally doubt it, there is some possibility that some Russian security services were involved in the Moscow apartment bombings on 1999 so Putin might want to tread carefully here lest the US retaliates by revealing what they know.
Been watching a few episodes of netflix’s house of cards… used to be a good show, not they have jumped into the anti-Russian bandwagon … “orientalist” type depiction of Putin, and giving glory to (corrupt) American ingenuity getting around Russia… useless “cold war” type episode about Russia. No stomach to watch the rest of the episodes… anymore.
The Yankee Reich just loves propaganda about how clever, glorious, ‘tough’, they are, and how vile their latest victim. Psychopaths, pure and simple.
Jewish zionists don’t just own/run the “news” media, ya know….
Look up Golan-Globus, a couple of very fat Israeli entertainment moguls who in the 70s and 80s defended pindos, and the west, not just from the Muslims, but the commies, as well. They are a slightly more extreme example (just) of how the entertainment industry in the west is geared to promote Israeli/zionazi interests and is used to indoctrinate goydom into being open receptacles of whatever the ZPC desires.
Could well be a western or Ukraine false flag, or from some extremist group.
Or it could be a hit. Say one of the oligarchs found out that someone spilled some beans to Nemtsov, who was expected to reveal it publicly. No problem with an oligarch’s money to hire professionals. Or some other reason which is not known — maybe internecine rivalry or grudge, or some business deal. That would have no effect on the western media spinning it into propaganda, which they do do with anything.
This is why a good investigation is needed. As for making decisions as to how to react to this now, jumping to conclusions, blaming Putin — or any one party — without the facts, should be discouraged. Let it play out under normal police and judicial standards, and let the western / liberal media which gossip mongers and spreads tales without evidence be laughed at.
That is the modus operandi of the MSM when it comes to Russia blame Putin and not wait for the true results. MSM already saying 10’s upon 10’s of thousands turning up. At momnet between 7-16K. Couple of things in regard to the march today:
Ukraine law maker Alexei Goncharenko who was alledgedly involved in Odessa turns up!
Already some with Je Suis Boris placards too.
Kiev wants the witness to be returned….hmm….an investigation is going on here……In the meantime DPR has pulled back all weapons and Ukraine introduces passports for Russians and wants to pass law on peace keepers.
Dear The Saker,
Just want to add that it looks like there were 3 not just one suicide in Ukraine whilst everyone is talking about Nemtsov. One always needs to look at what else is going on whilst there are distractions…….:
#UKRAINE: In past 3 days, 3 separate “inconvenient” Ukrainian politicians committed “suicide”, including key former Party of Regions leader.
(That is, Valter, Bordug & Chechetov)
Just to add some meat to this post I made:
1) Typo on name – Bordyuh
2) Article about these and in addition two others:
I did see a post where another community member asked me to clarify the names. Hope that answers the questions.
Fanny that the western press makes a big story out os Nemtsov and ignores the killing of thre USA journalists withing 24 hours of an interview with Edward Snowden …..
Several times in the past you have mentioned the 1999 Moscow apartment bombing. And indicated the possibility of special services involvement.
Have you written about it? What “indications” are there? What sources? Why is this not explored but always hinted at?
It’s like the Anna Politkovskaya murder. Hung around Putin’s neck for years and then the truth came out who did it, who masterminded it. Nothing whatever to do with Putin.
When the FSB watches these “dissidents” and critics closely, they are then accused of being close enough to do the crime.
Maybe that’s why they gave Boris N. a wide berth. If they had been tailing him, they’d be blamed.
What facts exist about the apartment bombing?
You have to remember that Yeltsin was in control in 1999, and Yeltsin was someone who had attacked his own parliament because it, like many Russians at the time, felt at least some remaining loyalty to the USSR or to parts of it.
The main issue about the apartment bombings as I know it is that there was a third or fourth building that was not blown up, but that was because simultaneously neighbors saw suspicious people there, who turned out to be govt agents who were involved with a drill or something. It is like the WTC 7 issue and the Norad drill issue in 9/11. There is enough info online that you can say that it is arguable. Obviously it is not something that I or Saker “know” about definitively.
This appartment issue seems to hinge on whether Putin or anyone else needed a pretext for the Chechen war. Was the situation as it existed then not sufficient to justify the war?
Once that question is answered, there’ll be no need to go on about this.
Besides anything else, I don’t see why anyone can want to begin their career with unnecessary mass murders of his own people.
There is a yahoo group that has been running since before the first Chechen war. You can probably find among the daily posts more information than you need. The posts were made as events happened. The name of the group is/was chechnya short list.
Chechnya Short List (chechnya-sl@ yahoogroups.com) good luck learning the ropes. red2deer
In 2008, just after the war in South Ossetia, Russian State Television aired Giullietto Chiesi’s 9/11 documentary Zero. I would say that counts as an official endorsement and amounts to Putin telling the truth about 9/11.
The Veterans Today site has several articles with excerpts from the classfied USA Sandia Labs report on 11 Sep 2001, which they describe as being available to us via gift release from Vladimir Putin & the Russian intel agencies.
The US gov’t secret Sandia Labs report describes the 11 Sep 2001 demolition of the New York City World Trade Centre towers as being accomplished with the W-54 mini-nuclear weapons placed at the base of the towers, along with other supplementary explosives. These are very small nukes, about 35 kilogrammes (much smaller than Hiroshima), which the USA produced 1950s-70s, and several hundred of which were given to Israel, the key player in ‘9-11’ along with the USA ‘Deep State’ and Israeli ‘frenemy’ Saudi Arabia. The mini-nukes explain a wide range of phenomena – the molten steel, the radiation, the tens of thousands of cancer cases …
Useful idiots are in line for hit list. American snipers in action.
The Russians should use the OSCE, Dutch and Australia investigators who are working so well on the MH-17 shoot down.
Maybe call in the FBI who took 3 weeks to get to Benghazi.
Or the great world effort to locate Malaysian 370. (Australia is leading that effort into year 2).
Timely, transparent and thorough. That’s Obama’s standard.
Like in the IRS, VA, Border Patrol murder by Mexican cartel, ATF firearms scandals.
Or the Secret Service prostitution scandal.
The Truth, the whole truth and nothing . . .
War crimes? What war crimes?
Palestinians and Russian-speaking don’t count.
Collateral damage? 28,000 innocents Predatored by Obama. Peace Prize exemplar.
The news of day makes one feel in need of a long hot shower to rinse the scum of the Elites off our skin.
Kudos! I think you little post just about sums up this “situation” quite succinctly!
Didn’t you hear? The new “evidence” says Putin hijacked Flight 370 and had it flown to Kazakhstan. And then,according to CNN,Putin is also the ISIS beheader.Who knew? We thought he was just the President of Russia.And now we know he “moonlights” as a pilot,a beheader,the separatist leader in Donbass,and a now gunman in Moscow.The man is a multi-tasking marvel.And if you don’t believe it just read the Western MSM.
Indeed, Putin seems to be everywhere, controlling everything, according to MSM. You’d think with such ‘power’, the west would just roll over and give up? That would be the rational thing to do, under the circumstances of Putin being everywhere.
Putin is the ISIS Beheader? Now it fits. Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger, Poppy Bush, and the Queen all want new young fresh bodies to transplant their own heads on. What does Dick Cheney need with another heart transplant when he can get a whole new body transplant? Dick Cheney will never die. Ever. Putin is working for them. Obviously.
Good God man! Haven’t you heard. It was in the Guardian-a ‘scoop’ of the old familiar. Putin did the Ripper Murders! And he is Charlie Manson’s bastard love child with Ilse Koch. Try to keep up with events.
The Guardian/Observer sewer is quite beyond parody. The Observer had an editorial so replete with the plainest lies that you really must question their sanity, or do they, like Karl Rove, believe that they ‘create reality’?.But of all the crazed hypocrisies being spewed in absolute unison by the ‘Free Press’, the one where they accuse Putin and the Russian media of ‘lying and inverting reality’, in a monstrous propaganda effort, really takes the cake. These creatures always were nasty pigs, but like the Gadarene swine, they have gone mad as the result of demonic possession. I await their aquatic adventures with relish.
Great Post from RI. (Grieved)
There is the further possibility, that we don’t care. We who are reading this don’t care anymore what the western media clerks write or say. In fact, it has no bearing on the situation on the ground. The murder itself matters little, compared with the fact that the methodology of false flag has been rendered useless in the space of one year. This is the great triumph.
We have witnessed the very worst already. We have seen the “respected” western press tell impossible lies about Russia and Ukraine, and we have seen that this has made no difference whatsoever – not in the slightest degree – to the real situation. And so we have learned that propaganda only matters to those who don’t know the truth. But those who don’t know the truth aren’t players in the situation – not even by their votes anymore, since even this has become suspect.
So the persuasion of the ignorant is negated by the very powerlessness of the ignorant – and who is left to persuade, since all who remain see through the false argument?
Well said, Janne.
The West preferred “medicine” no longer takes effect.
How they are admittedly uncreative, the chance of appearance of a new panacea should be very small.
What a Kerry, Nuland, Psaki and nullity like these can produce in this environment?
@uncle Bob:Multitasking marvel, thats good uncle Bob really good, lol.Western MSM is crazi like hell,bunch of liars and hipocrites and nothing more!Free press WTF is that? German nazi minister of propaganda Josef Goebbels is jaleous at them!
It’s simple: for CNN, Fox, Putin did it; for the opposition, it’s complicated. Nothing is gained by insulting the intelligence of one’s audience
CNN and FOX are saying Putin did it because for them, Russia is not a country, but is the underground lair of the evil supervillain Vladmir Putin who aspires to nothing less than world domination.
It’s such an idiotic narrative that I’m surprised more don’t see through it, but the most ready victims seem to be those who have a university “education”.
… and then there’s cretins like Inhofe, who are well paid for being obtuse
very loud noisy hit against a has been. Perfect for for false flag
I blame Pol Pot Shenko. Ukrainians are well accomplished at shooting unarmed people in the back
His Ukrainian concubine was left alive because she led him into Chocula’s trap
I am not joking one bit. Right in front of the Kremlin. Does that sound like Putin’s style?
Complete and utter bullshit. But more sanctions will result.
Just heard on NZ MSM news that Poroshenko says Nemtsov told him recently he had the evidence to ‘prove’ Russia’s aggression in Ukraine! Yes, my gut reaction is the Ukrainian connection…
BTW I remember Poroshenko’s speeches with props – passports, ‘proving Russian aggression’ many times already. This latest may be the latest variation on the theme.
The picture of Nemtsov hobnobbing with Yuschenko says it all. An agent of the West, aiming to be another Yeltsin and oversee the looting of Russia and its dismemberment. Always siding with the West, even to the extent of lying over the West’s utterly plain aggression in Ukraine. I am normally utterly opposed to murder, in fact I even feel a tint smidgin of pity for the Charlie Hebdo hate-mongers, but if one was to make an exception, it would be for treacherous agents of the Real Evil Empire like this. And kudos to that prize psychopath, Obama, for the utterly villainous hypocrisy of condemning Nemtsov’s murder, while killing thousands, 90% civilians, with his filthy drone missile slaughter.
I live for the day when these idiotic sanctions will be the laughing stock of the world, and when it will boomerang with triple force on the narcissists who believe they could dictate the destiny of others according to their inflated egos and evil designs
Thanks for updating this story, and fleshing in the background. I trust the saker’s honest, qualified analysis; so different than the skewed self-appointed judges in the west, posing as reporters. I’m wondering about the woman who was reported to be with the victim; she seems to have dropped out of the story; or maybe she’s a fiction.
To my surprise, all the leaders of this opposition have so far made very moderate and reasonable statement and all those which I have heard have apparently dismissed the notion that the Kremlin was behind the murder.
That’s unexpected. I didn’t think the zionazi scam would effect the people much, but did expect the quisling leadership to go all out as usual and mimic the zio-propaganda of the west. Could be the leaders were instructed to hold off a few days so their blaming the Kremlin doesn’t look like kneejerk support for an obvious western false flag and propaganda blitz. If the leaders are genuinely feeling that way, that may mean some serious problems for zionazi, inc.
Which brings up something I was thinking. If a Russian “color revolution” is seen as an impossibility by the ZPC/NWO, what to do with all those quislings fomenting “revolution” in Russia?
If my theory is correct that the murder of Nemtsov was intended to create hostility for Russia in Europe, and provide the quislings there more ammo for Russophobia to get that so far hesitant European population away from their non-hostile sentiments towards Russia, then why wouldn’t the war criminals do it again?
They’ve done these assassination false flags in Russia twice already before that I know of. Both times the target was not the Russian population, but to create Russophobia outside Russia. If the sods know they cant “color revolution” Russia, which I think they do now, then most of the quisling assets they have there are simply a wasted expense. And what happens to quislings of zionazia when the cost of maintaining them is more than the benefits they bring to the oligarchy? They get sacrificed for the PR windfall and Russophobia indoctrination.
What I’m getting at is will the ZPC/NWO start Nemtsov’ing their less useful quislings at more frequent intervals now for the propaganda affect on Europe and the west?
RE: exposing 9/11
This would only further demonize him, and Russia, in the eyes of those who believe the official fairy tale and it would do nothing at all for Putin or Russia.
The Soviets claimed the USA created AIDS as bio-warfare and that was the sort of result they got for their efforts in the west. The indoctrination of westerners, and the oligarch media control prevented people accepting such a possibility of their “fearless leaders”. Without being able to influence the western zio-media, there is little Russia can say about ZPC/NWO crimes like that, and get the message across to western populations effectively enough right now to make it worth the effort. That will probably change as the ZPC/NWO declines and more of the world gets independent of their mechinisations. Then we may start seeing all sorts of zionazi/western fascist crimes exposed.
Just saw a headline from the “Conchita Wursts” at reuters:
Nemtsov planned to reveal Russian links to Ukraine conflict: Poroshenko
I didn’t bother reading further. It looks like the zionazi queen club will take this false flag to their usual absurd levels and milk it for all they can.
“The Soviets claimed the USA created AIDS as bio-warfare…”
AIDS WAS created by the USA. This have been documented plenty.
In case you missed it, here is a very rare 3-hour radio show on AIDS and something called Mycoplasma that is responsible for almost ALL modern neurosystemic diseases like MS (multiple sclerosis), Cancer, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Crohn’s Colitis, Type I Diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, etc.:
bit.ly/1oRfM9g (hour 1)
bit.ly/1qpfpZd (hour 2)
bit.ly/Wvfv5q (hour 3 explains the science of how the Mycoplasma works in the human body)
And a PDF on this horrid biowarfare waged by the USA on all the peoples on this planet:
I never doubted Israel-America created AIDS. Thanks for the link to the show.
Come on! Quote Nexus Magazine as serious source of some matter?
Some aliens has abducted your parrot?
I thought the ‘links’ were already established? Hence the sanctions?
This ex post facto – or fiction – attempt to conjure ‘links’ looks like the Sprouts are getting cold feet. But it will take more than this rock-dumb insinuation to get them back in line.
The lynching might not stop at elections ..
The one most important fact of this assassination/martyrdom is the location. The setting had to be planned. And such planning was artful, tradecraft at its highest.
Who did it and why is almost irrelevant. The fact that it was planned is evident. The fact that it was planned for this photo history points at the conspiracy of US + whoever wanted him dead.
The why of who wanted him dead is irrelevant, tangental at best.
He was marked for martyrdom, and the scene was the “hero” take, as we say in the film biz. They had it perfect.
And thus, it can only be a US conspired killing. They gain all. They have run with it. It is their production.
Got it done on Take 1. Probably used “non-union” crew, stooges who didn’t know what it all meant, geopolitically or domestically. A rub-out.
But, that is tradecraft in the black arts. All the rest is propaganda. Another art form the US excels at.
I think you’re right. I just heard on the radio that Merkel is “distraught” over his death. Many Western leaders knew “this courageous man.”
Merkel is distraught because same thing can happen to her once her handlers can’t use her anymore.
The odious Cameron mentioned that Nemtsov was a favourite of Lady Thatcher!! I suppose he imagines that that impresses people. It tells you all you need to know about this swine, one of the heading villains responsible for the looting of the former USSR in the 1990s, and the resultant misery, even premature death, suffered by the people. An utter swine, like Thatcher and Cameron.
Neo-liberals know their own.
Yes. I know that location well. It was an orchestrated hit. As to the main point of Saker’s post, I believe the 5th column is more patriotic than he makes them out to be. A lot of careerists to be sure, but the ones ?I know sincerely believed the U.S. wanted the kind of democracy they wanted. Events have shown that illusion to be false. It’s very sad, but they aren’t congenitally stupid.
People who take money from a scum bag foreign government to sow discord in their own country when the program they are advocating helps only elites of the world further their rape and plunder-they are scum. Now if they were trying to restore socialism fine….take all the money you need. After all a capitalist will try to sell you the rope to his own hanging. Still,then the government should receive critical support where due.
“The one most important fact of this assassination/martyrdom is the location. The setting had to be planned. And such planning was artful, tradecraft at its highest.”
Another thing that struck me was that the first article which came up when I tried to google his name shortly after the news of his death appeared, was his interview from February 10, in which he claimed that he knows that Putin wants him dead. As weird as it may sound, was he in on it? I don’t mean he agreed to be killed. May be they told him that this will be an assassination attempt?
I saw 2 versions of that interview. In one he said he was afraid of Putin, but in the other version, he said he was not afraid of Putin. It all depended on how the words were translated. Now I cannot find the article that gave both versions, something to do about “fake words”. And now the BBC is feeding western news sites like NPR the story that Nemtsov feared for his life and that was the “evidence” against Putin. I don’t trust BBC’s assertion that he ever said that, but I am still looking for that article.
nice wet work.
How right you are.
Just watching the Andrew Marr show on Sunday morning and BBC diplomatic correspondent, Bridget Kendall, says:
“…look at the backdrop…St Basil’s…just like some film director was involved…”
I actually thought it was photoshopped, it was so stagey.
I also wonder who took the photograph – it’s not like something an investigating team would take.
It was almost like a warning:The Dust of Dreams.
Or: look what we can do, y’all. Right outside the Kremlin. Think you’re safe?
Yes, I would really like to know who took it.
This was not a good false flag if it was and not something like gambling debts. Imagine how this runs on something like fox.
“Russian opposition leader G%@yoie assassinated!”
“G%@yoie! Don’t you know anything? The famous Russian opposition…”
“Who’s G%@yoie? Never heard of ‘im. Some Rooskie?”
“Now our commentator will explain why G%@yoie’s so important and bla bla bla…”
“Honey, get me a beer, is there anything else on? I can’t unnerstand ’em, they’re talkin’ Pig Latin!”
“Bla bla and G%yoie’s assassination bla bla bla…”
“…and G%yoie bla bla”
“Aw s–t honey it’s nothin’ but Pig Latin on all 172 channels! Where’s that beer?”
“Forget about the TV sugar, lets go bowling! You promised to take me bowling for 3 weeks now. Lets get outta the house, and you drank up all the beer last night, remember? We need to go out to get more anyway….”
What are the odds one of the killers dropped his passport or ID card on the sidewalk, where the police could easily find it?
They’ve already found one of Putin’s ID’s in the getaway car.
Putin’s library card and KGB key card.
Not to mention Mohammed Atta’s Magical Indestructible Passport that America claimed to have found in the rubble of the WTC debris after 9-11, apparently suriving the searing heat and fire of this “terrorist” attack!
Its all coming apart at the seams for the Satanists in Washington. Reported today by a German TV channel and carried by Sputnik International :
“When Petro Poroshenko became the president of Ukraine, German politicians pinned their hopes on him. However, after one year of his governance, Berlin does not hide its disappointment with Poroshenko’s performance.
The German government is disappointed in Petro Poroshenko’s presidency that failed to stabilize the situation in Ukraine, German TV-channel ARD reports.
Berlin had high hopes for Poroshenko, when he became the president of Ukraine. Poroshenko promised to resolve the conflict in the eastern part of the country using peaceful measures. However, he failed to keep his promises: almost a year later, there is a full-blown war going on in Donbas
Now, ten months later, Berlin is strongly disappointed,” the German channel reports.
In addition, during the peace talks in Minsk, Poroshenko did not inform his Western allies about the weakness of his army. Perhaps, he was not aware about the real situation himself, but that also leaves a bad impression on the Ukrainian president, ARD said. The weakness of the Ukrainian army, in particular, came as a big surprise to many in the West”.
I guess this means Germany is now cutting Poroshenko loose. Notice the telling last sentence where they said the weakness of the Ukrainian army came as a big surprise to many in Europe, I will bet it did or put another way the strong resistance of the Novorussian forces came as a big surprise to many in Europe. They miscalculated big time and have now seen the writing on the wall and are trying to extricate themselves from the serious mess they have landed themselves in. Whether they will have the backbone (never mind integrity, they haven’t got any) to be able to do so is another matter entirely with uncle sam breathing heavy down their necks.
The entire article can be read here :
“In addition, during the peace talks in Minsk, Poroshenko did not inform his Western allies about the weakness of his army. Perhaps, he was not aware about the real situation himself,”…
I don´t buy this at all. If the BND can talk about approx. 50.000 men/women/kids killed in Ukraine, they also know about the weakness of the Poro “army”.
And he, P., knew about it too but tried to hide it in Minsk as long as possible. Imo he lied to them purposely in order to “save” whatever. The man and his allies are simply losers. They will very soon all curse the day when they fell for the false friends from across the pond and the power greedy EU..
Of course the German government and secret services know very well what is going on on the ground.
The writer of the article is merely looking for excuses so as to at least put some distance between Berlin and Porky.
thanks know the truth. interesting snippet. I heard recently that washington takes their orders from Berlin.
LOL – not the other way round?!
Anunnaki, great logic as I agree with you. Had to be UK because of Ukrainian girlfriend, if not UK//US involvement. He was valued more to them dead than alive. Great posts from others at this blog, also.
Sorry about that. By “UK” I meant Ukrainian, as Ukrainian hit, Ukie mafia or oligarch related. Interesting that Poroshenko quickly voiced a motive for the assassination. U.S. media coverage of this crime is downright horrible. News articles fail to mention the girlfriend at his side and msm keeps airing his words that Putin was out to get him. Sounds like an anti-Putin false flag event.
Geez, astonishing pics, especially 1:32
Really astonishing. Tells more then thousand words.
That’s really interesting.
I must confess I had never heard of this man so the media frenzy in the UK has been disconcerting. I can imagine others saying “never heard of him” and switching off from the story.
Anyway looked at the video and he obviously was well connected to Americans in the Clinton era. No wonder they have been disappointed with Putin. This man was the perfect puppet
I thought the one at 1:30 was more interesting…hugging John McCain.
I read somewhere that she’d just returned to Moscow from having a Swiss abortion. She’s a model.
Maybe it’s just a distraction. Is there any big news they don’t want us focussing on? How about the Congressional/Presidential bickering over the budget? They have a nasty way of sticking all sorts of horrible unrelated things into the budget. What about that Mandatory vaccinations for adults legislation? Is that close to final?
Yes, it could be a distraction. Something might be brewing for Ukraine:
Zerohedge via http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/02/27/3958
…”Should the IMF fail to provide the much needed funding (and as of this moment the days of merely jawboning its support for the central banks are finished since Russia will once again shut down its gas to Kiev unless it is paid in full and upfront), this is what happens: “the Ukrainian authorities could tighten FX controls further. In the extreme, this could potentially involve a bank deposit freeze, a ban on retail FX purchases and/or moratorium on external payments and complete closure of the capital account.”
Hence our question to Ukrainians: was the coup worth the economic disintegration of your nation, and leaving your faith in the hands of the US, whose recent global intervention case-studies include such sterling examples as Libya, Egypt and Iraq?”….
Good question and a very important one!
Kiew might go bust over night.
I’m sure most Ukrainians are suffering untold horrors. I don’t really see the need to be rubbing their noses in it.
they were duped.
People are lazy look at the lengths we go to get a half decent perspective on what is going on in this world and what our orientation should be….And if you try to talk to them they look at you like your wearing a tin foil hat. It is like they really don’t believe that they can do anything about anything so are only concerned with the things in their immediate environment that they can control. Defeated in so many respects some call it “pre-occupied” I call it negligence. You cannot participate in your democracy if you don’t know what is going on. It is a civic duty to at least try and find out I know all the barrier’s they put up to keep people uniformed but that should be your first hint.
Exactly, just like the growing news story of a British princeling indulging in underage sex romps on a certain notorious private jet when (from memory) a certain “Charlie” event just happened to sweep it off the tabloids.
You mean Epstein’s Air F**k One [With slick Willy humping aboard as well]?
Don'(t forget about Bibi’s soon to be regurgitated hate speech to congress [29 standing
evasionsovations included, by the cunning clap herd]
Yesterday EVERYBODY was talking about US/NATO weapons to Ukraine being laundered thru UAE. That story has been wiped out by this trivial one.
Hello, I have another theory. My belief is that the false flag is obvious even for the liberal pro-US elite : the fact that Nemtsov has been murdered in front of the Kremlin two days before the liberal-centered demonstration is beyond any coincidence. Yet maybe the real deal is that the liberal elite is getting nervous because they realize that like Nemtsov they that can also be only pawns which are to be sacrified to fulfill a secret agenda they don’t know anything about. The elite was ok for the lying- to -the -people and the plundering-the-country parts but not for the self-martyrdom one. Still when you deal with traitors and murderers, you should expect to be betrayed or murdered one day or another. They should know better.
I am sure that they wanted to sacrifice Navalny instead but had to settle for Nemtsov as Navalny is/was in custody. Now they all know, if they take money from their handlers and don’t deliver the goods they may have to pay in flesh and blood. I think Navalny saw this coming with the Alberto Nisman’s death but Nemtsov didn’t connect the dots as he was too busy with Ms. Honey Ukro. But now they all know the cabal means business. Even Ms. Merkel is shocked (very afraid). Remember how Victoria called the trip by Hollande and Merkel the Moscow junk? This is their warning shot across the bow!
A Navalny murder would have make more sense indeed. It has been months now that the MSM have been gloryfying this racist crook. A Navalny murder would have had more impact that this Nemtsov nobody and would have put the MSM into the we-told-you-so-putin-is-dangerous mode. Besides I agree that Navalny is probably getting nervous about being the next target in the hit list after Nisman and Nemtsov. Still I believe some good comes from this situation :
– Navalny goes into hiding for a while
– The already-split liberal opposition split even further
– More Russians behind Putin.
I agree with you both – the ‘false flag ‘ routine is now too widely-known to be effective as a public-opinion tool.
He was only known to vested interests in the West and has poor anti-Putin ‘value’, however the MSM tries to spin it.
A warning is much more likely – and not just to on-script Porky.
More and more, he’s like an desperate actor who knows he’s going to get axed.
Merkel ‘distraught’? Indeed. Now she might have some inkling that she is not off-limits: time the Sprouts made some serious conciliatory overtures to Moscow.
It’s way safer.
If Aldo Moro and Olof Palme were not off limits, why would Merkel or Hollande be off limits?
Judging by the media hysteria, I don’t know if we Brits are being conditioned for a direct war with Russia or are being made to see regime change as a necessary duty by our interventionist government. Nevertheless, I doubt Boris “shock therapy” Nemtsov will be missed by the Russians themselves.
Russophobia in the media isn’t a new phenomena and has been ever-present long before the Sochi/gay rights fiasco. I haven’t yet forgotten a Metro article showing an infograph of Russia’s military strength pitted against Georgia’s tiny force. As an impressionable teen, this was something which really shook me. I’ve since been following Russia updates on Google news and I’d say the vast majority from western sources have been negative; brandishing the nation as a dying country ridden with alcoholics, prostitutes, guns and AIDS. Having looked at a few demographic articles by Anatoly Karlin, I’d realised that Russia’s population was not falling, but had the healthiest population growth in eastern Europe! So much for that dying nation myth!
The west has never really wanted Russia to prosper or be part of the family, hence why this 90’s “reformer” is elevated as a martyr by our media. I’d like to add these words expressed by Tsarist era Sergei Witte, a real reformer who wanted Russian self-sufficiency. He proclaimed in his 1899 memorandum:
“(Russia) has the right and the strength not to want to be the eternal handmaiden of states which are more developed economically”
Those words are as relevant today as they were a century ago.
Why is Putin “ pussyfooting” around?
why does he tolerate non entity like canada australia and england these nations are nothing-just side kick of usa.
putin has to man up and kick these peoples a–s.
so usa /uk can invade iraq 3 times, can invade syria many times through british created ISIS and other terrorist groups; , can invade Libya and Afghanistan with impunity but russia cannot help the resistance fighters in her neighbour where the democratically elected leader was deposed by anglos controlled and plotted coupe!
By leaving the g-20 meeting early, Putin has shown another stupidity in international standing of Russia- so that her enemies will make fun that he fled.
Putin has done so much damage to Russian prestige in last 6 months all because many people in Russia went on supporting his stupid pandering to Anglos west despite Anglos declaring war on russia.
Did Putin really have to go to G-20?
If yes then he should have been more aggressive rather than justifying himself to no bodies like australia, Canada and english PMs.
Putin’s been humbling the New World Order for the better part of a decade; what more “ass kicking” do you want him to do?
there you are again anon…get a name. See, everyone can recognize you anyway, but it would be more fun if you got a name
Let’s call him Mona.
I respect your comments and your non name. Do what you want.
The brave and self-sacrificing working class people of England (Manchester in particular comes to mind) helped Lincoln to end slavery in North America and helped Gandhi to end colonialism in India. Please don’t confuse these good hardworking people with their wicked government. They suffered enough at Peterloo. They are victims too.
They’re suffering again under Cameron.
Before Cameron came Blair. At the minute a lot of them get excited about Farage. At some point you have to start blaming them as well as their leaders – no?
Surely any person, with more than 2 brain cells, that lives longer than say 50 years, has had enough time to work most of this out no matter how much propoganda comes their way?
Sorry, but Lincoln didn’t free the slaves because he cared about slaves. In fact, the new wage slavery and industrial system he was really fighting for has just re-enslaved everyone. The South had to be destroyed, because it did not go along with the Northern system of wage slavery, banking cartels, and natural and human resource exploitation. The worship of Lincoln is based on completely mistaken beliefs inserted into the public discourse starting in elementary school.
anon, we all recognize you by your commenting. Please really join us by giving yourself a name.
You’re a famous guy…Saker speaks of you in one of his podcasts…please get a name.
I agree. Truly they are a strange people. The non-british citizenry of the world need to wake up and begin ridiculing them and their culture. British people are so insane that they got a perverse thrill when those pakistani in that village were molesting their corrupt daughters. Sad but true.
The Western MSM NEVER publishes anything positive about Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela etc. The uniformity of Groupthink is spooky. Chomsky tells a delicious tale in ‘Manufacturing Consent’. A senior TASS editor visited the USA in the early ’60s, when the US MSM was vastly more diverse and less oligopolised (by Zionist Jews, surprisingly)than today. When asked what he though of the ‘Free Press’ in the ‘Free World’ he said that he was most impressed by the near total uniformity of opinion. He remarked that in the USSR under Stalin, they used to pull out finger-nails to achieve this end, and inquired how they managed to pull it off.
We dignify their bonafides every time we allow them to be called the Mainstream Media (MSM)
Might i suggest better truth in advertising: CPM
Corporate Presstitute/Propoganda Media
The anti Russia hysteria is every bit as bad or even worse as the lead up to Iraq 2003 by all the same outlets
Even Huffington Post has been horrible since they were purchased by AOL
The poor Gazans got a much better shake suffering under genocide last summer by the CPM (ha) than the Donbass citizens also under genocide
As an Assyrian American it was gut wrenching to see what happened in Northern Iraq under Obama’s ISIS pals
Yet I did not read one story in a Presstitute news outlet about the mass graves of Eastern Ukrainian girls raped, tortured and murdered. Even the Boko Haram atrocities got airtime.
Corporate Propoganda Media means it is always Russia’s fault
It is cristal clear that it was a trap.Of course the ‘girl’ is in the know.How can that an ‘opposition leader’is walking at 2 am in Moscow with this girl?No car?No taxi?Sorry I don’t buy that.The girl did everything necessary for him to go to the exact location at the perfect time she wanted him to go.
I’m quiet surprised that at least in the french MSM there is not so much said,I was expecting some kind of non stop special news report etc..even BHL Le Monde has some propaganda as usual but nothing special.
I checked the UK MSM,there is full crazyness as expected.I don’t know about other non anglo countries?
Talking about sanctions,I don’t see how they could take advantage of this crime to increase the sanctions,as nobody knows what really happened for the moment.And anyway they are preparing more sanctions.
Sorry to repeat what I already said earlier(I’m not a hurrah patriot just pragmatic),Putin showed too much weakness just after Odessa.If 100+ Russian ethnics burned alive is not enough,I don’t know what is needed,not even talking about the later 5 or 6000 + deads in the war.
I understand very well saker position on this,but the problem Saker is that for the West(mainly the US)this was considered as a green light for more provocations,the war and now sending weapons,not to forget MH17 and yesterday crime…they will NEVER stop now untill they get what they want,Putin dead or with no power anymore.They will go to total war if needed.It is a win win situation for the US,they want to separate once and for all,the EU from Eurasia,it is all about the TAFTA(which is rejected by a majority in the eu populations,only the ploutocrats are for),it was their goal since it started in 2003.(see geab/leap 2020 site march 2014).
With the Tafta signed against the will of EU people,they don’t care anymore about BRICS,SCO,China..the petro dollar will survive at ANY cost even being millions of deads via a big war.They also don’t care about Putin,if it was not Putin it would be against another one who is in charge.They want a puppet a la navalny,to break the country in several parts,steal the gaz and oil.Nothing new from the West.I’m expecting the worse for tomorrow…il faut battre le fer tant qu’il est chaud..
Some of what you say overall about the US seeking to destroy Russia I agree with as the Cold War never ended for them with Gorbachev.
However the U.S. would not put boots in the ground to fight Russia they wish to do via proxy war. If Russia had invaded ukraine after Odessa as you seem to suggest, they and NATO would have armed and support ukraine to fight Russia. For what purpose would Russia invade? Ukraine is no prize. They know better than any country the corruption that riddles the country.
All the other provocative actions in Estonia etc is yet more attempts to draw Russia into a war. Even now this death is being used to stir up internal problems. The U.S. is always looking for others to do their dirty work.
How can that an ‘opposition leader’is walking at 2 am in Moscow with this girl?
You cant even get the time of the shooting correct. How can you expect any one to take the rest of your misdirection spam seriously when you mess up on the basics practically in your first sentence. people will see you are BS’er right off and not read further. You need to hook them with the firsts sentences, not get them snickering at your amateur clumsiness. Next time, start by getting the known facts correct, then interject the thread distraction nonsense. Back to internet trolling 101 for you, I’m afraid. :D
(BTW, you might want to choose a less “Conchita Wurst” sounding nick, as well. This isn’t the Guardian where one gets brownie points for such “cleverness”. ;D)
Maybe Charlie Hebdo has sobered the French MSM up.
By which I mean the ‘enemy’ may prove to be within – and merely using the banlieus malcontents as hired assassins.
The ‘suicide’ of the Chief Investigator into Paris’ biggest terror attack might have served as a reminder to some to stay on script.
Others are maintaining a prudent distance.
From the transcripts of the Nemtsov wire taps, it seems the man was a misoginous buffoon; he was probably hated among his compagnons de route, who may prefer him martyrized, instead of alive and bitching.
This is good. I think Maidan’s aftermath has sobered up a lot of ideological ‘liberals’, most of whom – and this applies everywhere – are single-issue narcissists gathering under the umbrella. Many of them are easily ‘bought’, and so the ranks become thinned: strength in numbers is not something they can ever count on.
Sounds like they know any attempts at ‘spin’ will leave them thoroughly on the sidelines. Or worse.
There is a CCTV video showing the murder event. It looks like a non-state hit (drugs, dodgy financial dealings, etc).
It looks like a non-state hit (drugs, dodgy financial dealings, etc).
One can not tell any of that from watching the video. None of it. That is simply misdirection spin to get people thinking it wasn’t an Israel or the USA false flag.
porky pig states this spent force who dished out leaflet in moscow had smoking gun proofs of putin involvement in ukraine.
if true would you not be heading running with your model girlfriend for a border or the very min the us embassy.
why be near the home of the enemy.
classic mossad hit more like.
classic mossad hit more like.
Bot Tak, I’ve been watching Brother Nathanael’s videos…he’s great !!
Brother Nathanael reminds me of:
Drum roll please
Sorry, I cant take the guy seriously. I don’t know what his game is, but he needs acting lessons badly. ;D
Hey! That’s mean!
So I could only sit through one myself, but the guy’s heart seems to be in the right place.
‘Sides, he’s waaay better than Obomber: fluffing his lines with that ‘brokering’ gaffe and revealing the strings he dangles from..I’m amazed he’s still ‘on-stage’.
I guess they haven’t yet figured out how to take him down without making sure the false trail leads to the Kremlin.
And he has been a good little sock-puppet so far with all those emergency-powers directives..
Now we know this killing is serious.
Ban Ki Moon is shocked!
Sock puppet from Seoul speaks loudly and carries a l*** d***.
lol if Ban speaks you know america is pulling the strings!! The man is pathetic; the west is stirring this for all they can get out of it.
“Maybe they are aware that the Russian public will not “buy” it, maybe MH17 was too clearly a false flag, or maybe they simply had a momentary moment of decency”
Maybe they saw the reaction of the western MSM and realised that, in death, Nemtsov appeared more useful to their western backers, and that the same could apply to them.
Video of the crime’s been published, and FortRuss provides commentary, http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/video-recording-of-nemtsovs-murder.html
From the link: J.Hawk’s Comment
That the US government ordered or inspired the killing is implausible in the extreme. The fact that the USG will use this killing to political advantage certainly suggests cynical opportunism, but nothing more.
He just self-destructed his credibility as far as I’m concerned. There is a difference between stating an opinion and trying to discredit a viewpoint. He’ doing the latter. Why? As they say: cui bono.
Wonderful news. My first thought upon hearing of the killing was that a faction among Atlantic Integrationists was responsible, i.e., an internal AI job against Putin. That still may be so, but from the present vantage seems less likely. So, wait and see. Saker’s analysis above is par excellence.
The link to Fort Russ which commentator karlof1 provides above, namely http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/video-recording-of-nemtsovs-murder.html , is very interesting indeed. Besides linking to the actual video (see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VtMEcgwYFQ ), it contains the following comment by the translator:
That is by far the most plausible explanation of Nemtsov’s death. He was mixed up in all manner of shady, immoral, and possibly even illegal interpersonal and financial dealings. He had plenty of opportunity to make enemies for himself, and did not get along especially well with most of the so-called “Russian opposition.” Once again, the fact he was shot at 6-8 times at point blank range, out of which only 4 shots hit, and moreover that his companion who was in perfect position to see who was shooting at Nemtsov was left alive and unharmed on the scene, suggests a personal animosity toward Nemtsov somehow related to this “relationship” (for lack of a better word–somehow I doubt the 55-year-old Nemtsov was going to marry the 23-year-old “actress-model) on the part of the shooter.
That the US government ordered or inspired the killing is implausible in the extreme. The fact that the USG will use this killing to political advantage certainly suggests cynical opportunism, but nothing more.
It is equally extremely implausible the killer was ordered or inspired by anyone within the Russian government.
For the sake of completeness, a third set of implausible theories (though here the motive is actually pretty evident) posits that Nemtsov was killed by someone within Russia’s “war party” (whose representative or maybe even leader is none other than…Strelkov/Girkin) in order to provoke a harsh Western reaction that would in turn force the Russian government to adopt a harder line toward the West.
Still, in the end one has to keep in mind that the vast majority of “contract killings” in Russia have to do not with politics but with dirty financial dealings and/or the underworld. The alternative Anna Duritskaya angle is not that Nemtsov was shot by a jealous lover, but by Duritskaya’s pimp.
The comments by Hawk are only interesting because of the spin he is promoting. Namely, that the CIA would never ever do such a naughty thing and the USG should not be considered a suspect. The video itself supports none of his commentary after the translation. The video provides zero clues of who was behind the murder, let alone who might have done it. The fact Hawk goes to such extremes trying to exonerate the USA of suspicion in the crime shows he is not only misrepresenting the material he translated and the video it was a description of, it shows he is more interested in manipulating the views of people to a certain viewpoint (a USA-friendly one), rather than presenting an honest presentation of what info can be determined by what is so far known publicly.
It’s amazing how many comment writers here insist Nemtsov’s murder wasn’t a false flag, one would think it a concerted effort… ;D
A side-benefit of events like this is that shills blow their cover.
Did it occur to you that they never entertained the notion of this being a Kremlin hit in the first place? I hardly need to point out to you,of all posters, that the Vineyard is about as far removed from the MSM narrative as you can imagine. I do not believe for a nanosecond Putin/the Kremlin is behind this.
It isn’t a murder. Anyway we can be sure?
Why would anyone settling private disagreements by murder do so in a public area.
Murder is best done in secret, unless it is intended as spectacle!
Who benefits from the spectacle of murder in front of the Kremlin?
Here in Australia the msm is concentrating on the metaphorical political assassination of the tough guy shirt frontier Abbott. His own party is about to dump him. All quiet on the southern front.
Yes, hopefully he will be gone sooner than later — like Gillard before him, a UK born regression who totally misreads the Australian ‘soul’ — brings back knighthoods for UK monarch’s escort! his replacement, Turnbull, a man of means and intelligence from humble origins, will restart the Republic movement and hopefully, like Canada, we’ll finally get our own flag without the British Union Jack in the top corner.
Turnbull is a pro-Zionist, neo-liberal, US raised arse kisser. Worked for Goldman Sachs and still does in the parliament. More shirt lifter than shirt fronter. The Australian political elites are all US puppets
All Australian politicians with any chance of being allowed to reach power are pro-Zionist, US arse-kissing, neo-liberals. It’s known as ‘Democracy without choices’.
abbott is an english scumbag typical of english parasite. Australians should not allow english parasites now to be in high position there if they want to be taken seriously as a sovereign country.
I was glad they didn’t dump him the other day, and I hope they don’t dump him now. He’ll do a lot more damage to the Tories right where he is.
In Australia political has beens don’t get shot in the back, they get stabbed in the back by their own party.The tough guy shirt-fronter is under so much personal pressure he hasn’t managed to blurt out some absurd attack on Putin. Surprised he hasn’t challenged Putin to a duel.
saker, no need to be complacent.
This UN moneky ban is shocked with the murder of sn insignificant opposition man in moscow as he is always shocked when west is out to make profit from his shock but he has never been shocked at murder and criminal wars on citizens of eastern Ukraine by the junta.
that monkey UN dog must be caught and killed somehow . He gives legitimacy to the crimes of anglosaxons.
Russia is too stupid not to make any attempt to delegitimize this UNO and start some other international organization which will be not under thumb of anglosaxon parasite race.
height of hypocrisy of these anglosaxon scumbags.
As for Putin and 9/11, maybe he did give us a hint. Have a look at this.
Well, that didn’t work! Here is the URL again, without markup:
The only ‘hint’ I could see, was that it reminded me of the masonic symbol on the USD.
The object in the centre could be seen as a wrecking ball .
But I don’t know – put me out of my misery will ya?
The monument is called “The Tear” by some. I think it refers to the method: Something that turns steel columns into tears (while leaving paper intact) — EMP.
saker said ” If fact, even if the FSB *does* come across such proof, the Russians will most likely not make it public but use it behind the scenes. ”
does Russian secret service not know that today propaganda war is more important than anything else? unless you expose the enemy and show them that the enemy is lair and demoralise him youa re not going to win.
anglo scumbags do this all the time they throw one wild accusation and then Russia wastes time in refuting this and that point instead of concertinaing on her defense preparedness and her economy -with this the enemies of Russia get Russia to waste her time and resources.
why does Russia not turn the table on her anglo enemies?
why this stupidity about behind the scene when Russia is always back stabbed on behind the scene pacts?
Important new evidence showing the murder of Nemtsov:
Opposition leader Nemtsov’s murder caught on CCTV camera (VIDEO)
The camera captured a wide shot of Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge, near the Kremlin, where the crime took place. The quality of the footage is only good enough to distinguish the cars on the bridge and the figures of people moving along it.
According to the video, the politician was gunned down at 23:31 Moscow time by a killer who was allegedly waiting for him on the stairs of the bridge.
The murder happened when Nemtsov and his companion – a woman in a white coat, allegedly Ukrainian model Anna Duritskaya – were covered from the camera by a snow-clearing vehicle passing by.
The alleged killer then ran towards a car which was stopped on the bridge several meters away. He got into the passenger’s seat, and the vehicle drove off.
LifeNews also obtained footage showing Nemtsov and Duritskaya arriving separately at GUM department store facing Red Square at around 22:00 MSK.
The pair apparently had dinner at one of GUM’s restaurants and then decided to walk to the politician’s nearby apartment – the path of which required a walk across Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge.
So instead of Nemtsov being shot from a white vehicle, or from someone who briefly got out of, and back into a white vehicle, as originally reported, he was gunned down at close range by a man on foot, who then walked to a dark coloured vehicle, which had just pulled over, and got in it. The vehicle then drove off.
Highly strange that the “snow-cleaning vehicle” crept slowly up to them (when there is no snow whatsoever on the ground) and as soon as it blocked their view, the hit took place and the hit man ran to get into a car. For all we know, the hit man might have been riding somewhere in the truck on the right side. In any case, the truck moving up to them and he being hit as soon as the truck blocked the view is too coincidental to be coincidental.
I agree. I thought the same when I was viewing the video. What a coincidence!
Keep an eye with that truck!
Yes, I also thought this an all too curious detail.
I wonder was the driver drunk as well,
as with de Margerie’s death.
comment “It is simply not Putin’s job to share info with the western public, his job is to serve the Russian people.”
unless you eliminate the enemy Russia is in mortal danger and that enemy is England and secondly USA the england’s satellite state..
with 9/11 disclosure Putin would have done a mortal wound to the legitimacy of anglosaxons existence on this planet.
that is why Putin must disclose that
either he does not have proof or he is really not very clever.
all his actions and actions of Russia has shown the Russian not to be very clever-yes they are intelligent but without sense of self preservation instinct.
When will Putin declare a state of emergency, short of a state of war against his nation?
That would give him the autocratic powers to clean out the sh*t in the system.
US State Department Admits Russia had Nothing to Gain from Killing Boris Nemtsov
Tony Cartalucci (LD) : Perhaps believing by virtue of having admitted the murder of Russian opposition member Boris Nemtsov in Russia’s capital of Moscow Friday evening in no way served the Russian government’s best interests, the US State Department believes it can deflect guilt from being shifted towards its direction.
which seems a bit optimistic to me, and the linked VOA article
Yet, the State Dept is not pouncing on it, as the corporate media is (as the hyenas they are).
So maybe more light should be shown at Ukraine as it is beginning to look more like they had motives and it went along with their policy of attacking Russia (and with some connections, such as the woman).
Still early and all speculation, of course, but my spider sense is leaning in that direction.
Interesting statement from the State Dept. The ‘nothing to gain’ admission is a tacit acknowledgement of such tactics on their part.
‘Projection’, if habitual, becomes impossible to keep under conscious control.
The English race are trying to get the US to go to war against the Russians like they did in the first world war against Germany the second world war against Germany and now they want to start the third world war against Russia and possibly China
By Sharon Tennison
in April 21, 2014
“ I had two encounters in 2013 with State Department officials regarding Putin:
At the first one, I felt free to ask the question I had previously yearned to get answered: “When did Putin become unacceptable to Washington officials and why? Without hesitating the answer came back: “‘The knives were drawn’ when it was announced that Putin would be the next president.” I questioned WHY? The answer: “I could never find out why––maybe because he was KGB.” I offered that Bush #I, was head of the CIA. The reply was, “That would have made no difference, he was our guy.””
It’s obvious. Putin wasn’t on their payroll
They had obviously got this guy Boris Nemetsov as the next president- he was their Yats. But for some reason Putin came to power. Yeltsin obviously got sick of america at the end after Serbia etc
Nobody knows who did the killing. At least we do not.
However, it IS possible that it was not a false flag or “the Kremlin” or the FBI, CIA or people from planet Vulcan (Leonard Nimoy, “Spock” just died and he came from Ukraine – and he was “a good guy” for a change from that country). It can also be someone he pissed off big time. Maybe it was over that 23 old girl from Ukraine. Maybe some business deals. Maybe it was: I don’t know. Not everything is always a conspiracy. That something fits into a timing does not mean it is done for that purpose.
I did not know that guy “Boris Nemtsov”.
However, there is a strange story.
I do doubt myself. I do ask myself once in a while if what I think is true, is it really true? Maybe I have become victim to RTs, the Kremlins and Saker’s propaganda?
After all they represent Russia’s interests.
And here is my strange experience:
I watched Anthony Bourdains show: No reservations – a GREAT show about food in different countries. LOVE his style and his love for food.
So here is what happened:
I watched his show in Iran. He did – rightfully – criticize the power of the Mullahs and the hatred against the USA. Over all it was a moderate attack. He mostly went on and said: how nice people are in Iran, how great their foods are and how unbelievable their way of doing rice is. He is great when it comes down to food! I really recommend this show to food lovers like me. BTW: nothing like this I know from Russia!
Did he mention that after the “revolution” in Iran until today they killed 6000-10000 homosexuals? No, he did not!
Next episode I watched: Russia
45 mins of – who did not expect this – vodka and caviar – all good and fine (but foodwise boring) – AND one attack against “evil dictator Putin” and another and another and then even more. WOW. This was filmed one or two weeks before the winter games in Sotchi. He was having food there with Boris Nemtsov, which I did not know until today/yesterday. He also met with a lesbian who was very defensive and unhappy about a. the situation for them in Russia and b. being used for a different agenda. Funny Daily Show also did a clip about gay Russians before: same picture.
What strikes me most is: this is CLEAR EVIDENCE that somehow even a cooking show (!!!) on CNN was a tool to attack Russia. And that it was obviously pre-planned. A cooking show becomes now a key witness to what was going on!
Sotchi’s games started 7-Feb-14.
Bourdains’s show was filmed maybe 1-2 weeks prior. Maybe around 24th of Jan 14.
The events around Majdan in Ukraine became deadly 18-FEB-14. Hence roughly 1 months later, if I get the timeline right.
It it obvious:
Liberal (meaning freethinking. Not like Sakers use of the words in Russian context) Bourdain got a message from who knows to go after “Putin” a month before the Snipers killed ppl in Kiev.
It also means: We do not even need “Fuck the EU Nuland” anymore for prove that an attack was underway BEFORE Sotchi and BEFORE the sniper killing at the Majdan. In this case a public cook and foodlover is evidence!
Same time: in Russia gay people are treated badly. They are physically assaulted by locals; does the police care at all? Are gays human beings? Same time they are also abused by the West. They are cannon fodder for the “free world”. I was laughing my arse off when I read that the homophobe USA is now having a special envoy for gay rights. How much more of a hypocrite can you be?? Sounds like a fox is now protecting mice!
And my food hero, Bourdain, and he is great at it – watch him for his art! – did go after Russia – rightfully – about how they treat gays, but he forgot that in Iran they KILLED – state sanctioned – 6K-10K gays – NOT A WORD ABOUT IT – but in Russia it was worse then Iran. Connect the dots.
(Again: I do NOT like how gays are treated in Russia or Poland and Ukraine. It is by all means wrong; but it is obvious that the RF does not have a policy of killing them – at least not for now. Iran has that. So much about your friends btw. Same time the “free West” does not care about us at all. We are just pawns in a bigger game.)
Very unhappy about that; but very happy that a cooking show could be a prove that a campaign was underway.
Give ugly Mrs. Wurst some space and focus on the real evil! He, she, it? Who cares has a problem with his own sexuality!
I am not into female gays. Same time if I meet a “female gay” that is a good and a caring person, I will go for him/she/it. Why? Because we need people that care and sometimes they come in packages that are not what our preferences are. I met many, many manly guys. Great looks, nice body but emotionally dead. U str8 guys know what I mean. We all belong! And we need to built bridges!!!!
That’s an awful lot of words just to say:
We in the Public Relations Dept. don’t think you should be blaming our people when “people from planet Vulcan” could have killed him. Oh, and furthermore, please stop ridiculing our sexual preference and gender confusion, it has nothing to do with our crimes – scout’s honour, honest injun, really, seriously.
Judging from the amount of “look over there, not here” spam on this site since the false flag (it’s getting to be like reading comments at the Guardian…. hint, hint), making sure Israel-America isn’t thought to be a suspect is really, really, really, really important to those running Israel-America, apparently. Did I mention that it is really important? ;D
yeah, the monitoring is not as good as when Saker does it. I think now he’s got 10 people monitoring the comments
It’s not as easy as it seems. Often can’t see the context, don’t know what the reply is to, as someone else passed the previous comment. I hope we’ll grow and improve.
I know KK…I’m grateful…I just finished typing the podcast where Saker talks about the nuke London guy, so I’m kind of hypersensitive. Sorry to be such a complainer.
You are correct. We don’t (or shouldn’t) look to you to see context in your moderation. Your task is only to sift out the obvious trash from the seemingly polite. The rest is up to us. We the readers must sort out context and make allowances for place and time (and language even).
So instead of complaining, let’s celebrate the existence of all you mods and be glad the comments appear somewhat quickly. This alone is a miracle we can be grateful for.
Did we remember lately to say “Thank You!”, moderators? Thank you, Saker, and all the team of Saker!
Do you think it would be good to have Up and Down thumbs?
Vineyard Moderator – K.K.
Do you think it would be good to have Up and Down thumbs?
Sounds like it would create more work for you guys. It’s not something I would use, since it adds to the time it takes to scan comments. Especially if there is a lot of them.
up down and center.. to show you agree, disagree or just marked it as important but don’t have enough information to make up your mind.
I think the new site looks great. The comments section uncluttered. Which is what I don’t like about Zero Hedges site.
I do like thumbs up and down. Since the site is being moderated, you can keep the trolls out. Is it ego stroking validation on submitted comments? Sure. But sometimes at ZH i take pride in having more downs than upvotes
The best option [or solution] is to have a button next to a person’s name that allows you to ‘ignore’ him or her [so you don’t see their messages.
This prevents any North Korean style of moderation. Additionally you could create a ‘PlayPen’ section, one where all the comments end up that are way off the mark wrt the actual site. Again, this prevents any North Korean style of moderation and wouold embrace the true spirit of ‘freedom of speech.’
Add a little disclaimer at the top and the Saker’s blog will be one of the very few forums where comments are not censored.
There is no such thing as ‘freedom of speech’ and ‘moderation’ forming a symbiotic relationship that leads ultimately to the truth. Furthermore, I don’t know any of the moderators. As they’re human [and I’ve seen many go off the rails over the years], they will act as one and relate to whatever is said on a human level. Add the ‘PlayPen’ section to this site and nobody can accuse anyone of silencing any voice.
I want to hear those dissident voices. I don’t want [or like to] to live in a desensitized environment. I can deal with whatever Hasbara is thrown at me. I’m all grown up and nobody has to hold my hand and sing that famed Yiddish lullaby;
“One dead kitty,
Two dead kitties
Three dead kitties
And you look at me and ask,
‘Hey Rebbe, what’s the rub?’
And I say onto you,
‘Yey, you little man,
You’re lucky you’re a pup!’
That post about the ‘PlayPen’ was written by me. Forgot to fill out the form. Sorry.
I have just posted twice – it was necessary to clear the box. So, not spam!
Sorry for giving you extra work – it’s not like you need it!
Thanks for all your good work here – great to be involved in something that’s emotionally and intellectually satisfying, and know you are helping, isn’t it? :)
I caught it and have moved your 2nd post to the trash.
A little distraction on my part. I spent some time in Moscow in the late 70’s. I remember excellent restaurants and that the “Soviets” loved good food and good company. I won’t go into details about other pleasures of my stay there, but since you are a foodie I’ll tell you about my most memorable food (besides eating Beluga by a spoonful). I had a best fish soup in my life in a restaurant near Moscow. Clear broth, olives, lemon. Still think about it sometimes.
In terms of gays, I sense you have a problem despite your disclaimers. Neither Russia nor Poland have a tradition of anti gay laws, unlike the Protestant US. Gay rights is a wedge issue in the US so people can argue about in the political arena, because all important topics are off limits.
Ever notice how much money got thrown at the gay marriage lobby? Or why it became the ONLY issue MSM-wise?
That’s because it is the trojan horse to normalize surrogacy/eugenics.
Biggest IVF industry in the world? Israel.
Population-expansion by any means, but genetically-engineered.
First GM babies? Britain.
A friend of mine worked in genetic research in Glasgow. All the guys – apart from him – were gay.
The USA, UK, Canada and Australia are not only committing Economic Terrorism, then they are creating False Flag Wars around the World or Political Assassinations. It is time for member nations of the UN to organize and wage war against pariah Western Terrorist Countries.
USA + uk murdered 120 million people in 70 wars after WWII.
All Americans and British Citizens in Russia should be treated like the US and the UK is treating Russia at the moment> like criminals.
Those Warmongers should be considered persona non grata in Russia.
If north Korea can be falsely accused of Sony film ( which promotes killing of a president ) hacking and pressurized for that then should england and usa not be massively fined or sanctioned by the international civilized world?
Britain’s “Bomber” Harris, who led the RAF Bomber Command during its mass raids on Germany in the Second World War, cut his teeth devastating Kurdish villages in Iraq in the 1920s.
Heinz Guderian – master of the Blitzkrieg and father of modern tank warfare – commanded the German XIX Army Corps as it rampaged across Poland in 1939.
Personally leading the devastating attack which traversed the Ardennes Forest and broke through French lines, he was at the forefront of the race to the Channel coast. Only Hitler’s personal command to halt prevented Guderian’s tanks and troops turning Dunkirk into an English bloodbath. All because vily coaward liar Churchill promised something to hitler only token resistance to his ultimate aim-to destroy russia and (thus from brutish point of view germans too.)
4th June, 2007.
President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.in fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM against Russia. BBC spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation.– In other word accept fraudulent win of bush for sake of england ! “
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all ( including military installations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how germany wes vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
-such is the evil propaganda of british spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards.
It is no use targeting Poland -target the main villain which is england which must be annihilated from the face of the world.
You need some help. We’ve read your rant against England many times. Nuking them, et al.
Since the British government is the problem, agreed, why would you want England nuked? Annihilated from the face of the Earth?
And it would be bad policy to just strike one nation. The counter-strike from the others would destroy Russia.
So, get some help. Your idee fixe (obsession) is naive and boring done endlessly.
Saker talks about the nuking London commenter in podcast #5….I wish Saker was still doing the monitoring.
ta mate,at least someone ‘gets’ it.
Have ever thought of doing “Everready battery” adverts? Surely they’re looking for a replacement for that stuffed bunny by now. ;D
so much near Kremlin is no security -no policing?what sort of country is Russia? knowing that Russia is made to go to war at this time by her enemies.!
same old…history repeating from over 2000 years ago:
Delenda est Carthago” (English: “Carthage must be destroyed”) is a Latin oratorical phrase which was in popular use in the Roman Republic in the 2nd Century BC during the latter years of the Punic Wars against Carthage, by the party urging a foreign policy which sought to eliminate any further threat to the Roman Republic from its ancient rival Carthage,
The phrase was most famously uttered frequently by the Roman senator Cato the Elder (234–149 BC), as a part of his speeches.
All we really know about Nemtsov’s murder is that Obama and Kerry are both stating that it’s a crime that must be investigated.
Such statements are inane except as a means of suggesting to the stupids in America, the people who respond to the propaganda and thus determine the outcome of national elections, that (a) the murder of a pro-American Putin opponent is somehow a matter of the most vital international importance, and (b) without Western pressure the Russian authorities will not undertake a proper investigation of the crime.
In other words, both Obama and Kerry are insulting Putin and Russia in the crudest way to win backing at home for a more aggressive line with Russia. Is there really anything more of public interest to this story?
I wonder how many marchers will bear posters declaring “Je ne suis pas hamster ni pingouine” :)
Come quickly! A sampling of western MSM russophobic hyperbole:
After Boris Nemtsov’s Assassination, ‘There Are No Longer Any Limits’
Nemtsov killing: A chilling historical parallel?
In Leningrad on December 1, 1934, a lone gunman killed Sergey Kirov, a powerful Bolshevik who stood as an alternative to Josef Stalin.
Stalin’s involvement in the murder was denied, and never proved. It goes without saying that the Kremlin also was quick to deny Putin’s involvement in Nemtsov’s death.
‘We are all Nemtsov’: Hundreds gather to protest death of Russian opposition leader as Ukraine Prime Minister blames Putin for his death.
And not to be outdone in Canada, Harper’s Globe and Mail:
Fear envelops Russia after killing of Putin critic
Apart from the rusophobic, I just read the article comparing death Nemtsov with Kirov to see if I could break my laugh this morning.
Can anyone have more lack of historical accuracy?
Not only does that Nemtsov not reached Kirov, who was a brilliant comrade, to the sole of the shoe (sorry for the family, but true) but, as always, these lackeys of imperialism try to blame, interestingly, of all murders that occurred at the time to Stalin, when Kirov was one of his most trusted comrades and that, therefore, took over the soviet of Leningrad.
They were, Zinoviev and his Trotskyists, who commissioned the murder of Kirov, and the fact that it is continuously buried by imperialism and its lackeys who write there is nothing but confirmation that Koba was right when he tried to neutralize all that clique fifth columnists.
Returning to the present and the same crap article, I see that categorizes Ksenia Sobchak as one of the “leaders of the Russian opposition,” which, defintivamente, yes, made me break my laughter.
Well, least the Stalin comparison is an improvement on Hitler – kind of.
I simply do not know how anyone with a functioning brain can stomach reading the NYT.
It’s hard to know where the gong for Russophobia should go in the MSM, but it sure is a contender.
You would think it would have had the decency to fold after the WMD scam, but like a zombie, it keeps coming back.
The idea that Hitler was only demon and we don’t even have to understand and study his policy, ideas and acting – to understand that even mad man has logic is harmful. I don’t accept that puritanism. What made Hitler’s policy interesting was his reaction of what his enemies where doing. He was not near as iniative than so often claimed. Besides what ever we think about him, nobody can’t deny his knowledge of history and certain human behavior of folks. Surprisingly he wrote once having no problems to admit the superiority of great Japanese and Chinese cultures compared to western one. Not an idea of white power man.
This little spanish comrade, elsi, is right. I was not, but Zinoviev.
Kirov was a very valid and sympathetic comrade. Whenever he went hunting for the vastness of the tundra always brought us a gift. He once gave me a skin of a bear killed only 100 meters, and to comrade Bukharin he gave him a fox, alive, to which we agreed to call “Grisha”.
The reason why Russian traitors a.k.a “liberals”, are not running away with this is very simple. They can obviously sense the pulse and awareness of the Russian population. They know that the Russians during the past year and a half have been alerted to the methods and crafts of the Empire.
As this was a false flag as obvious as that of MH-17, and Putin himself (and Peskov) came out strongly hinting at it, there was extremely little room for this to be served to the Russian public.
As the internal political climate in Russia has turned decidedly against the pro-Western Fifth Column , these traitors clearly sense their own weakness and that of their treacherous and frankly inane, narrative.
Another thing is that as they see that the Empire is now readily abandoning its stooges whenever it sees fit, they are also becoming increasingly worried. Most importantly, they see that western policy towards Russia is now so aggressive and so shameless that their task of presenting Europe or the US to the Russian public in any kind of mildly positive light, becomes a complete and utter impossibility. The Russian liberal-traitors are able to see that as things currently stand, they will have to lay low, at least for the time being.
truly that is because the average Russian understands that war has been declared against Russia’s independence. In times of war, the leader’s popularity is way high. It was over 90% for Bush after 9/11
People like Nemtsov are going to be seen as traitors or quislings
16-20,000 turned out in a city of millions. Pretty weaksauce turnout
Even people who might not like Putin understand that he represents the last line against the return of oligarchic exploitation of a proud and educated people with the fortune of being blessed with great resources
Bush, Obama, Kerry, Nuland, McCain believe that all natural resources are the provenance of their clients – the rapacious multinational corporations
“What is our oil and gas doing under Russia’s taiga?”
There is a bizaare thing in western media where if a country acts against the west’s wishes then its leader is demonised (‘Putin interferes with Ukraine’ etc) whereas if a western country intervenes militarily then it is never personalised but instead reported that the country as a whole does something.
Bush’s wars etc. is never used in discourse.
This hitlerisation of Putin (making an individual target) and committee forming of Bush’s actions (spreading it amoung all US citizens and actors) is a deliberate psychological manipulation/propaganda technique.
Great news came from Russia yesterday when an infamous foreign Anglozionist agent was killed! That was a fabulous news for Russia and her people! And the question all of you you should be asking is how is it that you have Anglozionist agents running loose and unchecked (like those thieves, criminals and the Empire agents Nemtsov and Ponomarov *see here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-a-russian-parliamentarian-just-commit-treason/5425603* for example) ready and eager to commit high treason given chance?! How many Anglozionist NGOs are working in Russia compared to Kremlin’s NGOs in the West? How much of media’s ether is foreign owned and Anglozionist friendly in Russia compared to Russian owned and Russia friendly in the West? Etc. Those are the questions you should be asking yourselves, not what Empire outposts in Russia will say about their ringleader’s death!
And now to some of the resolving matter. I don’t know whom to directly forward the following proposition, but someone reading this might know someone who does, so here it is. Not many had been aware of implications Kosovo precedent until last year but even far fewer I think are aware of precedent of Empire’s legal treatment of Russians in Baltic states whose possible implications are of even greater magnitude. Most is probably not even familiar with the story altogether. Let me introduce you with the basic facts then. For almost a quarter-century Baltic states in their law have been having something which is called institution of Non-citizens. What that basically means is that those “non-citizens” have all the right common citizens have except the right to vote and hold office (also they have different kind of passports than common citizens, but that’s of no importance). And this is where it gets so interesting, as for 25 years Russians there in the West (for Baltics is part of the West now) have systematically been suffering and that hardship is not without ramifications. Now Russia should take citizenship, together with the right to vote, from those tens of thousands mercenaries (at least) of Western outposts in Russia (NGOs, media, etc.), and can do it completely legally for West has made a precedent you see. What you do is you define law of high treason (most countries have it, though it never gets used as regularly as it should), and all those Anglozionists outposts in Russia which inevitably violate such law will then fall under wrath of its consequences, and one of the consequences should be taking away citizenship of those violators (at least). Pretty appropriate punishment for those criminals don’t you think?
Perhaps the reason “we” say that the mercy killing of Nemtsov scum is “horrible”, “dreadful”, “despicable”, “reprehensible” (etc., etc., etc.) is that “we” are afraid of *their* blame?… When even Mr. Putin himself watches his tongue. (Respectfully calls the Kiev Zio-Nazi war criminals “our Ukrainian partners”, the Zio-rulers of all the western countries “our Western partners”……)
BTW. Putin’s September 2000 interview on “Larry King Live” ( http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/08/lkl.00.html ): Quoth Putin: “As regards to wearing cross, earlier I never had it — once my mother gave it to me and when I visited Israel. I was there two times. First on an official invitation of the minister of foreign affairs of that country. The second time, I liked the country, and I traveled there with my family as a tourist.”
I watched this live on CNN cable at the time, fourteen plus long years ago, and thought then to myself:
“Wow. Here is the president of the biggest country in the world, the ruler of mighty Russia … and even *he* has to watch what he says – and humble himself in front of *them*…” Has anything changed?
@Johan: Well… there’s an eye opener! Who in his right mind would want to vacation in Israhell? Is this why Larry King is on RT now? Btw, his show is a waste of space. In fact all the American produced RT shows are totally useless, with the exception of the Truth Seeker, but I haven’t seen that one in a while now.
@TooLegit2Quit: Right. *They* are literally in every soup – including in the RT methinks!
(BTW. There are 18 ethnic web branches of “Russia Beyond The Headlines” – and I see the same thing there… And so on…… A much better place is the small Strategic Culture Foundation, http://www.strategic-culture.org/ & http://www.fondsk.ru/ , though one can’t post comments…)
Irina Khakamada is amongst the most sane of them when she’s in her right mind. Through she was giving a speeches in unstable state several times – some experts suggest drug usage.
Any Israeli angle?
Maybe give Bibi an excuse to cancel his potentially disasterous speach to the US Congress. He wouldn’t want to miss being in the Je Suis Nemtsov Parade.
I’m curious about the Ukie Whore. A search on her name only brought up a woman who is Ukrainian, but by her picture, not model material and married. I suffer under the impression that a model of any stature at all ought to have a website or a wikipedia entry. Maybe she’ll get one now.
Story here about the model
and rewritten in English on Kremlin stooge blog as
Nemtsov’s girlfriend, the main witness to the crime.
23-year-old Anna Duritskaya was born in the town of Belaya Tserkov (“White Church”), Ukraine.
Comes from a working family, her mom is a nurse, her dad is an ordinary worker. Neighbours say they are a good family, and Anna is a nice young woman.
Anna finished school and entered “Vadim Hetman University” in 2008, in Kiev, studying economics. Majored in accounting/bookkeeping. Got a part-time job on the side, working for a tourism company, as a guide. This led to some modeling gigs. She dropped out of university without completing her degree in bookkeeping.
Anna’s modeling career in Ukraine does not seem to have taken off however. Her portfolio can be found on the site “Kiev-Casting”. She did not get many gigs.
She met Nemtsov about 3 years ago. Apparently during one of his trips to Ukraine.
According to one acquaintance, Anna and Boris met through an agency (headed by a guy named Petr Listerman) which brings Russian businessmen together with young women.
Sadly, this seems to happen a lot in Ukraine, where would-be actresses and models cannot find enough gigs, and end up working for escort services. [yalensis: typical situation for a failed state]
People in the know say that Anna genuinely fell in love with Boris, even though he is 30 years her elder. She kept her romance secret and did not even post it on her social network sites.
In 2012 she got a real job in Kiev, as an executive secretary, based on her accounting experience.
She posted her resume online and was honest about the fact that she had not completed her studies, saying she was still auditing some courses.
At some point, Anna left Kiev and moved to Moscow. [perhaps to be with Boris?]
In Moscow she posted a different resume, advertising herself as actress and model. Including her physical measurements. She posted, that she wishes to act in dramas and movies.
However, at a certain point (the chronology is somewhat fuzzy), she abandons her dreams of fame and decides to focus completely on her relationship with Boris.
After Nemtsov’s assassination, Anna was detained and questioned all night by the police.
They finally let her go in the morning.
Arriving home, the very first thing she did was to clean out and purge all of her social media sites and pages.
Here is more about Anna Duritskaya and a lot of her photos
“The young woman who was with Nemtsov at the moment of his murder is a citizen of Ukraine. We have established that she recently flew from Moscow to Switzerland to have an abortion. The investigators are trying to establish whether Nemtsov was her only partner, and we are not excluding the possibility there was a personal conflict over her,” notes a highly placed law enforcement source.
Arriving home, the very first thing she did was to clean out and purge all of her social media sites and pages.
Here is her vk account as of today
“Anna and Boris met through an agency (headed by a guy named Petr Listerman) which brings Russian businessmen together with young women.
Sadly, this seems to happen a lot in Ukraine, where would-be actresses and models cannot find enough gigs, and end up working for escort services.”
A prostitute by any definition.
Nemtsov pretty much lived an open lifestyle. Anna and him had been getting horizontal for four years
Wonder if this photo will make the front page of the NYT or Guardian
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. This is the man media is trying to make a saint out of??
Poor girl. All mothers should teach their daughters to build a future for themselves and no longer leave on the road because of any man. Never leave work or friends because of any man. Here we say: “There are many fish in the sea” or “Never put all your eggs in one basket” (never all hope in a person, the people come and go, but it is not so easy to find a good job or a good friend)
The best for a girl in her twenties is finishing studies, travel, if possible, and enjoy life with friends. Charming Princes there are only stories, most of those who seem they fade……
There are many levels of “models” as well as many levels of “working girls”
This Ukrainian chick may as well have had some modelling behind her, it doesn’t mean she is Anna Shayk level.
If fact, even if the FSB *does* come across such proof, the Russians will most likely not make it public but use it behind the scenes.
My observations of Putin over the years is that he is very cautious and conservative in his serious public statements. He came right out and said the murder was a provocation in his very first statement about it. Peskov has repeatedly stressed it is a provocation in his statements to the public. To me, this means that not only does the Russian government know it was a provocation, they know they will be able to prove it was with evidence, and are intending to do so. I very seriously doubt Putin and Peskov would have categorically stated in such strong terms that the murder was a provocation if they did not fully intend to prove publicly that it was. My reading of Putin is he would not have said it was a provocation had he not intended to back this claim up with good evidence.
The explanation, in my view, is probably self-preservation. The CIA-funded opposition probably thinks “If it was Nemtsov yesterday, it may be I tomorrow.” So they are refusing to toe the line because they have noticed that total servility is more dangerous than they thought.
This evening just before supper, I posted on the blog of an ABC report on Nemtsov, a very anti-Putin article. Most, although not all of the blog posts were anti-Putin. However, I imagine that many of the post which might have supported a more balanced understanding were deleted because all of mine were, even those to which people responded.
Below, I have copied some of my responses, which although deleted, were still on DISQUE:
“There is no evidence that Putin was behind any of the deaths. Their deaths served no political, economic or power interest of Putin. Now, the almost legion of deaths swirling around the Clinton’s could have been in their political, economic and power interest.”
“It should be quite obvious, as it is now even to most in the so-called opposition in Russia, that the execution of Mr. Nemtsov was the intent of one of several factions in which President Putin is not included: a U.S./NATO/MOSSAD hit since Mr. Nemtsov was no longer otherwise useful to the fifth column in Russia and its masters because he had lost almost all of his political clout and propaganda value, his being more valuable dead as a sacrificial lamb for the cause; a gangster hit based on his many nefarious dealings in the Russian, Ukrainian and Caucasus underworld; an Islamic hit because he was an outspoken “Je suis Charlie” and had received death threat from certain Islamic factions; a personal vendetta over the young lady with him either by a family member, by a friend or by her pimp. What speaks to a political assassination by Western resources is the staging of it almost as if scripted by Hollywood and the CIA Film Agency: the perfect Moscow setting at the Kremlin, a winter’s walk; a pretty girl; and upcoming “anti-Putin protest,” doomed according to forecasts to fail. At first blush, the fact that the young lady was left alive speaks against a professional hit; so do the extra shots; but if she cannot identify the shooters and if her walk with was on orders of a someone who himself could be a patsy, then the fact that she lived fits the script. There is no reason for Putin himself to have ordered such a hit. Mr. Nemtsov was no political threat to him.”
There were at least four others in a similar vein, responding to the nonsense. All were deleted.
That’s the ‘Free World’ for you.
Based on the public location of the killing we have to conclude that the FSB / official Russian forces were not involved. Why? They would have done it in secret and they have access to him at any time and place of their choosing as they can use their official status to move freely in the country.
Was it “the West” either officially or unofficially? The official West would not have done this, as they would not “expend” someone involved in their Color Revolution. Most certainly they would not have done it as part of a “Friday news dump”, but during the working week for maximum impact. Unofficial parties of the West? Sure, maybe, but no evidence.
But the most plausible source is unofficial Russian forces. The simplicity and cleanliness of the attack is how you make the most of limited resources, which is the mentality of unofficial forces. Could they have been paid by anyone under the sun? Yes. But it the trigger pullers were wither paramilitary or mafia. Does the Russian mafia work the garbage collectors as they do in in New Jersey? That would be a place to look.
For those who can understand Russian – a great conversation
One of the witnesses speaks to Lifenews.
Свидетель убийства пытался спасти Бориса Немцова (Witness to the murder tried to save Boris Nemtsov)
LifeNews publishes an exclusive interview with one of the three key witnesses in the murder of Boris Nemtsov. Victor M. said that criminals were shot policy directly in front of him.
A man was walking along the Moscow River bridge over Big Boris Nemtsov and his companion at a distance of approximately 80 meters. According to Victor, he did not look around, and paid more attention to the smartphone, but suddenly noticed a girl walking in front satellite fell to the ground.
At this point, according to Victor, from the body to the side of the carriageway began to run away another man. He jumped over the fence, ran directly to the bridge and got into his car, which was waiting for him in the second row. Mark Victor car could not remember, but it seems that it was a domestic car.
The offender jumped into the car, and then she abruptly jerked up and disappeared. Victor rushed to the aid of a man lying on the ground. However, help is too late – to get a few bullets in the back, Boris Nemtsov began to wheeze and soon died. Only later, Victor learned that he had died at the hands of a prominent politician.
From his description, he is probably the person in dark shown in the video below starting around 23:32:00 who is seen moving from right to left towards the victim.
Всепогодная камера зафиксировала убийство Бориса Немцова. Эксклюзив
He further confirms the shooter was on foot when he shot Nemtsov and got into a car that pulled up right after. He thought it was a Russian make, not a Ford. This explains why none of the passing white Fords traced were shown to have had a role in the murder.
I hope you are right, Saker about the “reasonableness” of the liberal opposition. However, it didn’t sound that way when I decided to listen in to a little bit of “Ekho Moskvy”. The commentator balthered on about the “revolution” on the Maidan and how this was an act to instil by He Who Must Not be Named to instil fear in the population.
Waiting to see what comes out of events of 1 March but I would be surprised if all this just went away without further violent provocation.
I have just been reading about the events at the White House in 1993 and the snipers on the roof of the American embassy, so nothing will surprise me.
Now, what if Nemtsov was about to do an about-turn like Berezovsky and possibly to spill some beans on the oligarchs (Kolomoisky or others)? Just an idea.
“Considering that the crime happened 200m away from the Kremlin, and that the city center is laced with cameras”
Here is the video of the killing recorded by a 24/7 video cam
There are also photos of the young Kiev woman who was with Nemtsov during the shooting and description of possible motives officially investigated by Moscow police.
One interesting, imho, detail is that police found six spent cartridges (Nemtsov body got four bullets), meaning that the shooter who shot from about 2 meters was very unprofessional.
Two more from Lifenews on a found vehicle possibly involved in the murder:
Автомобиль предполагаемых убийц Бориса Немцова найден в Москве (Car alleged killers Boris Nemtsov found in Moscow)
In the center of Moscow found the abandoned car, presumably, in which Boris Nemtsov killer fled the scene.
The car was parked in the yard of a house near the metro station “Smolensk”. Law enforcement officials conduct inspection of the vehicle.
– It is a white “Priora” with toned glass and Ingush numbers 501 – told LifeNews, located directly at the Smolensk lane, where parked cars. – Place the machine near the cordoned off several units of police work.
Предполагаемых убийц Бориса Немцова сняли камеры наблюдения (Boris Nemtsov alleged killers removed surveillance cameras)
Two men who traveled by car found today in the metro station “Smolensk”, hit the lens cameras. Presumably it is their car “Lada Priora” was the vehicle in which the attackers fled the scene of the murder of Boris Nemtsov.
At the moment, there is no certainty operatives is that people in the video have anything to do with the murder of a prominent politician Boris Nemtsov. According to LifeNews, car, from which overlooks one of the participants registered to a resident of the Republic of Ingushetia, living in the city of Nazran.
Another maybe – maybe not. If involved, it’s certain to be stolen, though.
Just to note: the cameras weren’t “removed” as it seems to say in the translation, but “filmed” the possible suspects.
Kadyrov thinks foreign spooks killed Nemtsov. What he says is always interesting because Kadyrov often says the “undiplomatic” things the government would like said, but refrains from doing so itself. He’s often a window to what the government would like people to know, but for various reasons doesn’t want to say so directly.
Кадыров обвинил западные спецслужбы в убийстве Бориса Немцова (Kadyrov accused Western intelligence services in the murder of Boris Nemtsov)
The Lifenews article faithfully summarizes what Kadyrov wrote. The following is an Yandex trans of his instagram entry:
15 hours ago
In the center of Moscow killed Boris Nemtsov. Only the powers interested in the tension that could go on this dangerous step. The organizers of the murder was hoping that in death Nemtsov whole world will blame the government and cause a wave of protest. There is no doubt that the murder Nemtsov organized intelligence services of the West, seeking by any means to cause internal conflict in Russia. This is their practice. First, draw a person, inspires it, called a friend of America and Europe, then sacrifice to blame the political leadership. There are many such examples. It is impossible not to take into account the hatred of Kiev to Russia. It is the hands of the Ukrainian secret services could be executed sentence Nemtsov in any Western capital. But Boris Efimovich today was not a real contender for power in Russia. Moreover, Nemtsov was, more than anyone, need power as the opposition, which formally is, but not really is an outstanding leader of the so-called opposition. Boris Efimovich held positions of responsibility of the Federal Minister, first Deputy Prime Minister, was part of the security Council. But the scale was beyond him. Many of his statements on the fateful for the whole of Russia topics differed populism. He tried to earn the authority to refer to politicians, whose names on hearing the entire population. So, Nemtsov did not like all that I have done for the revival and development of Chechnya. I belonged to that very quietly and was not even interested in his speech. Listening to him, recalled Salman Raduyev, who took upon himself all that is happening in the world and commented on everything. I’m sure the government is very interested in the disclosure of the murder and bring the perpetrators to justice. For this purpose, as evidenced by the messages, exerts every effort. First of all, Boris Nemtsov, a Russian citizen, and the encroachment on the life of a Russian citizen should be severely punished. I Express my condolences to the mother, relatives and friends of Boris Nemtsov.
Nemtsov didn’t see this coming because he was hoping to get laid with that ukie 20 something. He was thinking with his dick. The ukie had other plans.
A Ukie “intelligence”/colour coded revolution expert US Amb. John Thefft and CIA/mossad production. They are on regime change Russia full steam ahead from now on.
I posted this over at ZH
54 year old with a 24 year old. He’s not that good looking. Paid a little more than he budgeted for with the Girlfriend Experience
Preliminary scenarios have appeared in the Boris Nemtsov murder case.
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
and if you scroll to the bottom of the page you see a nice picture of the girl.
I love the post from
SanctuaryOne March 01, 2015
Come quickly! A sampling of western MSM russophobic hyperbole:
This is hilarious! Better than satire. Even I’m not weird enough couldn’t make that stuff up. The world is laughing at them.
I believe from the crass unprofessional way this went down that it was the Uki junta. But could it be Russian nationalists that a traitor and Western shill was going to undermine Putin during what is seen as a state of coming war. Nemtsov was judged and executed for his treason and being a quisling cum opportunist
Selling his irrelevance to the stupid Americans desperate for someone with charisma to take down Putin by marshaling acolytes by the force of his personality
The murder was professional, staged, and executed spectacle!
Vengeance-The True Story Of An Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team-George Jonas shows how it is done. Murder at the Kremlin is tradecraft plain and simple.
A Russian Patriot would not set the stage for spectacle, to be used by Russia’s enemies!
This puts some needed perspective on what Nemtsov supported and stood for.
Ад в Дебальцево: оккупанты насиловали и убивали женщин, травили колодцы, расстреливали из танков дома… (Hell in Debaltseve: invaders raped and murdered women, grass wells, shot by tanks at home …)
Zhuchkovsky militia Alexander spoke about the terrible events that took place in the occupied APU Debaltseve.
“I just left Debaltseve, where he worked for several days.
In this city, now nobody cares Nemtsov, and it does not interest me, because part of me remained in Debaltseve.
Ukrainian terror here in the past four months had some unimaginable scale.
Punishers toured the city and at close range shot home from tanks and armored personnel carriers – for fun or “list” (I have one prisoner seized a Ukrainian flash drive with one such list).
Women were raped and killed. Before retreating in rush destroy critical infrastructure, grass wells. Entire buildings are practically no, the number of civilians killed is beyond counting.
Boris Nemtsov expressed solidarity with the people who created these iniquities. Not what condole even talking about this man do not want to.
I can only say the obvious: the incident directly related to the Russian-Ukrainian war, which is part of the global international conflict.
All that is happening today in the New Russia, Ukraine and the Russian Federation, indicates that the situation this spring scales and radicalized. “
Clearly u missed a lot. All the usual clowns are jumping out their pants blaming government with same wording “even if Putin didn’t order the crime he created atmosphere of hatred that provoked it”. And some openly point at Putin
dear Monitoring crew…I apologize for all my complaints about the troll comments. Its actually making me laugh.
OT great video about eu
This definitely OT, but hilarious.
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Poland trained putchists two months in advance of the Maidan. The Polish press has disclosed the role of Donald Tusk’s government in preparing the coup.
Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski invited 86 members of the Right Sector to the police training center in Legionowo. There, they received four weeks of intensive training in crowd management, person recognition, combat tactics, command skills, behavior in crisis situations, protection against gases used by police, erecting barricades, and especially shooting, including the handling of sniper rifles.
This illustrates the role assigned by NATO and US/Poland in Ukraine.