I often see the comment “how bad is the crisis in the Ukraine really? is the regime really in difficulty”?
I suppose that you have all see the wonderful fights in the Ukrainian Rada. If not, check out the latest one around “our friend Iats”:
But, the Rada is the Rada, right – we expect nothing else from that zoo. Right?
Well, take a look at a non-public meeting of the executive branch, this time with the participation of Saakashvili, governor of the Odessa region, and Arsen Avakov, Minister of the Interior. First, I would point out that these “Ukrainian” “nationalists” all converse in a flawless Russian when away from the cameras. Second, speaking of cameras, even though the meeting was behind closed doors, Avakov video-recorded it and now he posted this video on his Facebook account. I will summarize the exchange as so: “you corrupt thief! No, you corrupt thief! No you corrupt thief!” etc. etc. etc. Then there are some words about who does and does not have “billions” and who has honor. Avakov also calls Saakashvili a “immigrant laborer” while the latter claims that he loves his Ukraine. It ends with a glass of water being thrown.See for yourself, enjoy the video, and ask yourself what this really says about the state of affairs in the “independent Ukraine”!
They should televise on the Internet as a reality show. Freak-a-rama.
The EU is the womb of this monstrosity, but the father is the US. They fucked the EU, as midwife Nuland proclaimed. And out came the Nazi Wunderland.
The Kiev baby was born with no brain, eight pairs of greedy hands, nearsighted and deaf, deformed and sustained on evil.
It got $1 Billion from Poland yesterday, and lives on begging from other institutions of corrupt and deviant practices (IMF, EU, US).
The junta is pure fascism, unvarnished, raw, like unprocessed sewage.
They have indeed been a horror-comedy show since Day 1. Whether this indicates that their grip on power is weakening I am not able to say. Maybe.
As for Poland giving money to Ukraine? Really? I thought that Poland was merely the poshiest version of Ukraine, not fundamentally different.
Great post! Elegantly put.
Mats, I must confess – having english as 2nd language- your language is fine art, higher level academic namecalling I could never find out in any english classes. A dictionary linguistic research thing.
Ik ´ll take the chance to learn a bit, tku.
The sexual metaphor above isn’t correct, so here is an alternative view:
The old whore, madam Merkel, and the soft-ball pimp, her Holande, were ordered by western pedofile banksters to bring their disabled and delusional adopted daughter, Ukraine, to their EU brothel, to be gang raped and sodomized (a.k.a. nulandized) by preselected NATO, Open Society, Monsanto, Big Oil/Gas and other members.
The non-delusional part of Ukraine did resist, but during the ensuing fight a weak UN condom, covering ukrop-junta, broke, resulting in ex-utero multiple pregnancy with GMO characters, like Pork, Yats and Saak, with dangerous auto-immune infection, and a heavy bleeding.
In the emergency room, Dr. Putin stabilized the situation by stopping the bleeding, but he will need a consent of the parents (Minsk-2, unwillingly given) and a further permit of their sponsors (not given yet) of how to proceed, both legally and medically.
My question is..
Why is a former Leader of the Nation of Georgia now in charge in Odessa?
How did he get that job?
Can he be a citizen of Ukraine because he was born in time of USSR? Was he elected?
Shouldn’t that in and of itself set off alarm bells for people looking in from outside like me.
I know that is rhetorical question but I need to state it.
Also what language are they speaking here?
In the long term what do you think is going to happen to Ukraine?
Do you see it returning to Russia politically and/or economically?
Personally I have nothing against the Russian people. I live in Canada a world away. My Grand-Father fought, thankfully he survived, my Great Uncle did not. They stood along side millions of others, Russians and Soviets Included, to defeat the fascists. It is sad we cannot see thru this charade in the west.
One last question.
Does the departure of Crimea and the fact that this region has moved on and appears to be moving forward cast an even worse light on current situation in Ukraine?
1. Saakashvili wasn’t elected. He was appointed as head of Odessa region by US, along with US citizen Jaresko appointed by US as Ukrainian financial minister, as well as Latvian and other foreigners appointed at crucial posts. Ukraine is a US protectorate/colony and decides nothing in important issues.
2. Saakashvili was granted Ukrainian citizenship by chocolate oligarch turned Ukrainian president Poroshenko, while his Georgian one was revoked as he is prosecuted in Georgia for corruption and power abuse.
3. They are of course speaking Russian (Avakov is Armenian).
So they’re speaking Russian because Avakov and Saakashvili can’t speak Ukrainian?
I kind of thought so but needed to ask. In the West we are not told what language is being spoken. I think it is important. What about the other questions I have. Any thoughts out there about those things. I can’t get unfiltered news here in Canada. Only place is online and even there I have to wade thru pages of disinformation. What is the feeling on the ground among the average folk just trying to get by in Kiev and other places. I have read that further west one goes the more anti-Russian it gets. Is that really true? Or is it one of those things told to me by Western Media. Is Ukraine break-up inevitable?
After US-engineered coup, Ukronazis want to look as nationalistic as possible, so they use almost only Ukrainian during government / parliament sessions and appearances on TV. Though many Ukrainian officials barely or don’t speak Ukrainian, let alone these Georgian and Armenian. They understand it, but can’t speak well enough without looking embarrassing. Of course they speak Russian. What do you suggest for them? Speak English? (BTW, all these US stooges – Saakashvili, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk – speak fluent English with their American masters.) Majority of Kievans speak Russian in their daily need. Ukrainian army uses Russian (all papers in Ukrainian though), moreover even some nationalistic paramilitary formations speak Russian for daily communication.
Of course not. I don’t expect them to speak English. So when push comes to shove what do you think is going happen with silent majority two or three years from now. Will they choose the West or will they choose the East. I know it matters where question is asked in Ukraine. I think that is big geopolitical question for Europe. Do you see country breaking up? Is there enough underlying support in the east to throw off the fascists running the place. Or is this country going to continue to drift for an extended period of time. I hate using the word but I think it describes it at least from where I sit. I’m just curious. 25 years after fall of USSR understanding the Russo-sphere is something that most where I live don’t do well understanding. Just so you know I am not an academic just a middle aged man that works in construction building bridges and buildings. Just an ordinary guy. One of the silent majority.
The situation is complicated there and it is hard to answer in one comment. In short, people in Ukraine decide exactly *nothing*. Even if they dislike, they still can’t on their own overthrow this US-installed corrupt fascist regime. No any pro-Russian party is allowed in Ukraine, only pro-Western ones. Even Ukrainian communist party was banned by Ukronazis (that is what nazis always do when they come to power – ban communists). All Russian channels are banned. There is no any voice, no any political opposition, people simply don’t have a choice.
“I have read that further west one goes the more anti-Russian it gets. Is that really true?”
That is more or less correct.
Ukraine is an artificial state (never in history this territory existed as a “country”), here is a map showing how it was constructed. If asked prior coup, people on the South-East would mostly side with Russia. People of Crimea and Donbass were asked on referendum – I guess you know the overwhelming results (more than 90% wanted to reunite with Russia). But relentless Goebbels-style propaganda does its work and pro-Russian mood on SE Ukraine is declining. People from former Poland-occupied territories tend to be more pro-western.
Anyways, fate of Ukraine will be decided only by US and Russia, not by Ukrainian people, unfortunately. Nothing, including break up, will happen there on its own. Putin’s policy is Ukraine to be federal (but united), stable, prosperous and friendly country. While US doesn’t give a damn what will happen with population on this territory – all US wants is it to be anti-Russian at all costs – that is a key reason of conflict and chaos there.
Because of US actions Ukrainian production, GDP, currency, living standards – everything fell drastically. What is growing – it is prices and bills for electricity, water, gas and Poroshenko/Yatsenyuk wealth (both of them became several times richer after coup).
As for my personal estimation, since Kiev junta didn’t withdraw Ukronazi army from Donbass and didn’t stop shelling population there, that means junta and their US masters don’t want peace.
I hope I’m wrong, but since US Empire continue to raise stakes in Ukraine, Syria and elsewhere at each iteration, if everything will continue as it goes now, I think war is inevitable – both in Donbass and global war in the nearest future.
I’m Irish and can say that’s incorrect amongst those with an interest in geopolitics
Oh, but it looks like. the did try to speak Ukrainian, listen to this ba-ba-ba, be- be- be.
I am told, right or wrong, the tie-eater in Odessa speak both Ukrainian and Russian.
He was studying in Kiev university, so he knows some phrases – I’m aware of that. But pronouncing couple of phrases to impress people doesn’t mean he is actually speaking Ukrainian. Specially for you I just checked on YouTube his interviews, press conferences and speeches after he was appointed by US as Odessa governor – everywhere he is speaking Russian only (even when asked in Ukrainian). BTW, it would be odd to use Ukrainian in Odessa – absolutely Russian city where all locals use Russian for their daily needs.
Okay Let me get this straight Saakashvili is being prosecuted in Georgia. What? Rot is bad in that country. Geeze.
Yes, Saakashvili is wanted in his homeland – Georgia – because of several corruption and power abuse charges. Pay attantion to the fact that current Georgian government is totally pro-US and anti-Russian. So even if THEY can’t ignore some of Saakashvili crimes, one can be sure he is guilty.
are you sure Sack is from Georgia ? Or is he an import there as well ?
But how does this tell us if the regime is in trouble? This kind of thing has been going on since the coup. The Ukraine seems like it was born in crisis, with all kinds of mountebanks, degenerates, opportunists, and people two slices short of a full loaf. But it should be pointed out what George Carlin said “When you are born in this world, you are given a ticket to the Freak Show and when you are born in America, you have a front row seat.” And America has been on top, even with all the freaks.
” Avakov also calls Saakashvili a “immigrant laborer” while the latter claims that he loves his Ukraine.”
That’s really amusing. Considering,that Avakov himself was born in Azerbaijan and isn’t Ukrainian, but was born to an Armenian family that Russified their name. Even more amusing is that he was sitting next to the “Ukrainian” FM who was born in Russia not Ukraine. What a disgraceful bunch they are. If I was a Ukrainian and saw that video,I’d be totally disgusted that those were my “leaders”. There is a report that is going around (I can’t verify it.But several people have reported on it).That in Kiev if you apply for a job,one of the questions asked is if you were at maidan. If you put down yes,employers are writing “moron” on the application and thrashing it.
What did anyone really expect? This is the best that those dumb freaks nuland & biden can come up with, thinking they could use these morons against Putin, and look at the mess they created.
When have the evil neocons ever done good, with their arrogance and pride? I consider them the true sub-humans.
“What did anyone really expect? This is the best that those dumb freaks nuland & biden can come up with…..”
a puppet that has a mind and will of his own isn’t trustworthy.
moreover, the quality of puppets is directly linked to their being
blackmailed for their no doubt nefarious past and perhaps
ongoing devient, criminal behaviour.
there is a saying i heard of years ago, notwithstanding psychotics,
be kind to those around you on the way up, because when you are
on the way down, sure as eggs is eggs, they will kick you with glee
for any dubious tricks you pulled on them in your climb to the top.
hilarious stuff. I hope the US are proud of their little puppets, how elegant and wonderfully they represent western values to the world.
I think they did stuff like that long before USA toke over thought.
What a good laugh! Can’t understand what they are saying, but the emotions say it all. It’s like The Gambino crime family head telling someone from the Genovese crime family your too much of a crook here, and to bring it down a notch.
Was the tie inedible?
More filth from the BBC:
“Russia’s president Vladimir Putin has signed a decree that will exclude Ukraine from a free trade zone that includes former Soviet countries from 1 January.
Note the inclusion of Putin and Soviet’ in the same sentence and count the lines of propaganda smear.
But some cracks are forming:
BOMBSHELL: Aussie Police, Dutch Prosecutors Break with Dutch Gov’t Over MH17 Crash
They don’t believe arguments from the US, Ukrainian and Dutch governments trying to pin this on Russia”
Expect some spokes and demotions in the MH17 investigative wheel and replacement by those who stay on the ‘proper’ message.
Russia’s decree to exclude Ukraine from the Commonwealth of Independent States trade agreements is just a formalization of Russia’s objections that started this mess in the first place. 2 years ago, then-president Yanukovich was pressured by Russia not to sign a free trade agreement with the EU. The reasoning was simple – Ukraine was already a member of trade agreements involving Russia and Commonwealth of former USSR republics, and signing a trade deal with EU would make Ukraine a member of 2 trade blocs, and therefore a “gateway” through which EU goods would enter the Commonwealth markets without any import duties.
Ukraine wanted to “sit on two chairs”. A perfectly sane objection by Russia. Yanukovich refused to sign the EU agreement at the last moment, then Maidan happened and the rest is history.
As for Australian Federal Police guy Donoghue, it actually makes me glad that there is someone in this country (in which I live) who has some spine left to actually say what he believes and not just regurgitate the usual “Russia – bad” crap. It is a very welcome change from our former Prime Minister Tony Abbot, the inbred moron who threatened to assault Putin, blaming him for the MH17 disaster.
Funnily enough, Putin had the guts to show up in Australia for a G20 summit and even shook the moron’s hand. Predictably, the moron with a big mouth had no balls to, as we say here, “put his money where his mouth is”.
My impression of Abbot was that he is a loud-mouth bully and like all bullies is an inveterate coward.
Abbot doubtless realised that, despite his student boxing experience (perhaps one too many wacks to the head?), if he had tried any shirt-front nonsense, Putin would promply toss him into the nearest billabong.
What a perfect internet meme – Putin Le Grand systemically tossing the human trash of western politics into ‘the nearest billabong.’
Ideally with assistance from a smiling Australian Aboriginal (“nice one mate!”)
The scale of corrupt mendacity gives a whole new meaning to ‘industrial waste.’
Wonder if the Saker community could do it?
Abbortt’s style was intimidating women. Notoriously he smashed his fist into a wall near the head of a woman who dared defeat him in University politics, but, fights with men? Not his style at all. If he tried to ‘shirtfront’ Putin (an Aussie Rules tactic of charging straight into an opponent) the judo expert, he’d fly through the air, I was sorely disappointed that didn’t happen.
Lol Saaks needs to learn how to tie a tie, the fat bastard. He yells like Hitler, pounds the table like Kruschev, but looks like Barney Rubble. Does that guy realize what a useless tool he is for the Empire? If he had any sense at all (which he clearly does not), he would be in constant fear for his life these days…
So that’s who that is!
I do that too, matching up these sicko cartoon clowns to their real-life cartoon character identities:
For instance, this one could be McCain. Or maybe not.
That tie is really a piece of work. He has a thing about ties, it is said?
Otherwise, Rumsfeld (paraphrased on Iraq): “This is what democracy looks like” (!!!) Do the geniuses at State look at this and think, “bravo”? How much $$$ are paying for this? Are some Ben Franklin bills in the pockets of the denizens of that room?
Tragic humour really.. He is an apt case study in what can be expected if one walks down the path of “stooge-hood”. It’s a wonder someone wronged by him hasnt taken the shot. I fully expect his life to end in a short ugly manner…bless his heart.
But at least, it looks like they are not shooting or stabbing each other.
It is in Novorussia, those Donetzk or Luhansk enclaves, where prominent leaders simply get murdered.—Some prominent Cossack leader was the latest victim, so I read.
If there is no proof that some outsiders like the Ukrainians were involved, then it looks like modern neo-Stalinists are still more ferocious than modern fascists, as far as killing each other.
Perhaps, if the Novorussians got rid of their Stalin images and emblems, then the Ukrainians would tone down and retire their “fascist” and “Bandera” images, and then both sides could perhaps sit down for direct talks.
Truly, these people are “allies” only in the classic “Devil’s Dictionary” sense:
“Alliance (noun): In international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other’s pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third.”
Not having the benefit of the language, other than the few words I can pick out, I am left with an exemplary display of primate aggression
These great apes don’t ‘have the benefit of language’ either – the video would be fully understandable with the sound turned off :-)
And these are the ones that are a threat to Russia? Putin certainly does what we all do: laugh. They are not “fascists”. The real ones were more serious, why they were more lethal. To compare Nazi Germany with this bunch of clowns is laughable.
So, the local Mob bosses meet and use nice furniture to do their dirty turf boundary business.
Think the US Houses of Shame are going to be much better once Trump get his hands on the agenda?
Why would any person with average intelligence listen to what red tie eating Saakashvili has to say?
Can someone enlighten me. I’m always ready to learn.
We all are laughing at them, poking fun at them, trying to decide whether they are more funny or evil, and so on.
While the solid fact remains: that they remain in power. And that nobody will dislodge from it any time soon. Not they themselves, not IMF, not USA, not EU – and certainly not Putin.
You know, whatever one’s view of the actual Third Reich — and I honestly, don’t want to go there, at least not here — I don’t believe that these kinds of scenes were typical in the German Reichstag of that period.
I will freaking donate for a correct translation in English of the video with the governors.
By the way people, we shouldn’t be all negative.
At least it shows that even some people in Poroshenkos government can be somewhat decent and see it for what it is. The realities of politics makes any change impossible
Ah it seems that the SouthFront Has already translated it:
How wrong I was in my first assesment. IT seems that Sashakvili is the little more upright of the two, trying to fight what the interior minister brands “total privatization”…
My god. They will starve the people of Ukraine…
To you commentators here: You speak too much about “Fascism”. For Ukraine, fascism would be an improvement. Like someone else said you did not see this chaos in Nazi government or Mussolini government. This band of thieves are literally speaking of “total privatization” meaning the end of national ownership of community.
Great articles but ” Nazis?”… This blog is to great to cover the truth with that calumny for so many.
The entire Ukrainian Leadership is Zionist /Jews, and achieved power from Jewish Neoconservatives /Neoliberals in the West.
The Jews new by hiding behind Hollywood ” Nazis ” ,the Nationalists would support them in the Ukraine.
” Nazis or Fascists ” in the ideological sense have zero to do with power of policy here.