This presser is particularly lacking in intelligence. What an incredibly poor show. Mr Lavrov is visibly and in his words affected by this. The video itself is still the live version, so kindly forward to time marker 1:20 at this moment. There are short parts of the video where Ms Truss cannot be heard, but not to worry, we are not missing a thing as she was simply telling Russia what they should do, without a shred of shame and without having the word ‘respect’ in her lexicon.
The only new information is from Mr Lavrov, saying that the individual inquiries that Russia sent to the OSCE members to confirm their personal view on the various treaties on security, seems to want to be answered en bloc and responses are outstanding.
Apologies for my emotional introduction of this presser. But it is up now, and unless the Boss overrides me, it will stay.
It is time that Russia implements their military technical measures and leave these Anglo Saxons to their own misguided importance and smug superiority. Zone B – Unite!
Russia will not be attending the Munich Security Conference.
You are a person, I think some emotion is warranted considering the level of idiocy on display. And good for them. There is no point since Russia’s points are dismissed routinely for the past 30 years.
Are you sure they are Anglo Saxons?
Here is a hint:Cookies Nuland…Anthony Blinken….Kamala Harris….The Democratic Party(The Black Lives Matter Party)….
I think a more accurate description of BLM is Burn, Loot, Murder. 2 billion dollars in riot damages from their “mostly peaceful” “protests”. But a couple of broken windows from people protesting election fraud is the most dangerous attack on democracy in the history of the United States. The way the US government treats its own citizens (subjects) should be all Russia needs to know.
The whole visit by Truss was just PR for her – nothing more.
She is ill equipped to be a Foreign Secretary and was only given/elevated to the role because she was popular with the grassroots Conservative party due to her getting “lots of business deals” in her previous more junior role and Boris wanted a win before their party conference. The MOD had dumped Afghanistan on Raab – to oust him from the role and put an incompetent and controlled person in his place.
She is totally inept to be a diplomat and embarrassed herself today at the conference – what a complete waste of time.
The only positive is the UK was shown to the world as a warmongering nation who couldn’t answer simple questions, couldn’t listen and just does what the US tells them. It is clear for everyone to see that the UK/US are the main drivers of the Ukraine aggression.
Russia and Lavrov were not impressed! Loved Lavrov’s comment “it was like having a dialogue between a mute and deaf person….” Summed the whole meeting and press conference up!
Problem will be in GB for the home audience that the BBC and Sky journalists who asked the loaded questions will edit their segments of this presser in such a way that Truss will appear aggressive and diplomatic in a 1-2 minute section on the news. I’m not even going to watch how they do it, but I’m quite certain of it. This will be followed up with her announcement of sanctions. Watch this space.
The leak of the film of Truss speaking over a translator and footage of Lavrov telling her to stop talking, as well as the leakage of the total disaster response to the question put by Lavrov if she recognized the sovereignty of Russia over the Rostov and Voronezh regions:
“Great Britain will never recognize Russian sovereignty over these regions”
These combined leaks show some smart propagandistic footwork. The RT questions, that she never replied to, because they were clearly too difficult for her to even begin to answer, on Chechnya and Thatcher’s support of the separatists so why not GB support for those separatists in the east, must have been approved of beforehand. It showed she was completely out of her depth, looking rather lost and bewildered.
Best thing was listening to Lavrov’s replies.
Last night I was watching BBC. The Live press conference of Boris Johnson with Nato’s Jens Stoltenberg. I then switched to RT. Live Presse Conference Lavrov and Truss. Switched back to BBC to see if they are reporting the same.
After all it is their Foreign Secretary! No minor matter. It is about war and peace!
But..the BBC reported about the Neanderthals and why they were extinguished….what happens if you don’t see the warning signals of the time.
It’s not surprising the most disgraceful diplomatic exchanges come from the US/UK. They are used to just saying something and having their way. US routinely blocks foreign nationals from arriving for UN work. US shut down consulate building and raided properties. That violated Vienna Convention on Diplomatic relations.
They have since walked away from all security agreements like INF, Open Skies Treaty. They ignore others that don’t suit their interests.
But they hold a Memorandum sacred! They also hold Russia party to Minsk agreements which they are not and that is UN Certified. They also promised NATO wouldn’t move East and now say “you should of got that in writing”, “We were only talking about German”, and “It is sovereign choice”.
Speaking of sovereign choice, they need a color revolution, burn people in Odessa to death, never prosecuting the perpetrators nor condemning them in the US/EU. Then Victoria Nuland hand picks these dirtbags on record. Then being paid large sums of money they now suddenly want to be in NATO.
They are imbeciles banging on war drums. These people are bought politicians by US empire that are destroying Europe at the expense of European interests. US/EU is contemptable.
This racist, russophobic attitude is disgraceful. This is just a cover for the economic war US is waging for control of the EU. Meanwhile, US will handout free crackpipes. Got to love “Democracy”.
“We were only talking about German”, and “It is sovereign choice”.
Yes that’s hilarious, when they mention that time and again. “Sovereign choice” by squeezing your hand very hard or offering you a carefree life if you do as they say.
Não consigo entender o papel da Grã Bretanha nisso tudo. Ela afinal optou pelo Brexit não é mesmo? Porque diabos está se intrometendo?
England(the Anglies) is a nonentity…The political power in the US at the moment is the Democratic Party-not remotely Anglo Saxon…
Ignore them at your peril. It’s a monozio party it is borderless, like an octopus with eight seperate brains, all must be severed simultaneously.
War for Blair Mountain, OK, if you had stuck to one comment, I would not be biting your head off. But, consider it education.
Short attention spans could be forgiven if they did not see I was using Lavrov Language.
And secondly, some of us know who Ango Saxon British Twats are. Here I am actually using Pepe Escobar Language.
So, some of us know Anglo-Saxon British Twats and your head is in the wrong box and you don’t know what we are talking about. If you see a word and a comment box, well, just try and get with the conversation OK.
And also, when Ms Truss confused another geographic location, Maria Zakharova slammed her for confusing two different parts of Europe when she proclaimed that London was “supplying and offering additional support into our Baltic allies across the Black Sea” – despite the fact that Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are located over 1,000km away from the southeast European body of water.
“Mrs. Truss, your knowledge of history is nothing compared to your knowledge of geography,” Zakharova wrote on her Telegram channel. She added that the world needs to be saved from the “stupidity and uneducatedness of Anglo-Saxon politicians.”
Truss studied geography at CNN.
They are famous for misplacing whole nations, not just a city or province.
Truss is an example of what Andrei Martyanov roars about: the ignorant diplomat, ill-trained, mis-prepared, readied with arrogance, profuse with stupidities.
They abound across the Liberal countries, certified by the highest level universities and experienced in cocktail parties and careerism.
“Retards and cretins”, with no malice toward those afflicted with the real mental disability.
Hope Zakharova has her knives sharpened for a visit by another non-serious female emissary of the West – Kamala Harris. She will be heading to Munich this month to rally U.S. allies.
I have thick skin…so I’m not going to get angry…If you think I wrote something that provokes strong emotion in you… trust me, I am a very easy going guy. As long as I can have my 7 cups of cappuccino and lattes a day….I am a kind gentle lotus eater.
Have a very nice day…
This is the level of preparedness of the UK Foreign Minister, a country which aspires to again be counted on as a serious global player. https://translate.yandex.com/?lang=ru-en&text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kommersant.ru%2F
(Posting the translation just in case of link issues):
Yet another UK idiot.
You can see how upset Lavrov is at having to waste his time with these blathering nincompoops who only come to parrot their regurgitated manure.
I am not surprised she fell into Lavrov’s trap, he is a master at sizing up idiots and made them eat their stupidity, in public.
The UK will never recognize Russia’s sovereignty over these regions,” the Foreign Minister said after a short pause
Many a true word has been spoken in error.
Deep deep deep down the UK does not recognise Russian sovereignty.
It was true in the Crimean War of the mid 1800s, and is true now.
Deep in their DNA they have “peninsula envy”, and from their tiny island look enviously at all that Russian landmass, wasted by being occupied by Russians.
That was truly the Freudian Slip of our times!
She impaled herself on the cold steel of her own stupidity.
Poor Lavrov. I thought Putin had a hard time looking at Macron for 6 hours.
How in the world could such an ill-qualified, evidently mentally challenged woman be appointed Foreign Secretary? To me it is proof that England has lost all self-respect and no longer even cares for keeping up appearances. It seems that over the years, everyone with some talent and ambition in the “West” has chosen for a career in business, stockbroking, etc., leaving politics to the lowest of the low.
This “It seems that over the years, everyone with some talent and ambition in the “West” has chosen for a career in business, stockbroking, etc., leaving politics to the lowest of the low.” is the end result of “democracy” when it is constructed around political parties.
The party dynamic required that elected represeentatives serve the party first and their constituents second. That is a conflict of interests and smart people don’t willingly do that sort of thing. It is an inexoerable dynamic, slowly eating away at the collective intelligence of the political parties. Over time those inclined to play the game become more and more stupid/morally bankrupt/incompetent as the ability to attract real talent declines. Eventually peak stupid arrives, and it looks like this, all over the Western democratic world, all at the same time.
At the same time, political parties concentrate power and provide a convienient access point for those who would subvert the will of the people to exercise influence to bring about their desired actions. Instead of bribing lots of individuals, they only need to bribe one or two party power brokers.
“ How in the world could such an ill-qualified, evidently mentally challenged woman be appointed Foreign Secretary?”
In the same way Boris Johnson is Prime Minister. Look across Five Eyes and sees totally incompetent leadership- Biden, Trudeau, etc.
The West reverses the roles by claiming that it is the Russian who is deaf and does not want to hear the voice of Western diplomacy.
It is a ruse which aims to corner the Russian in the role of the aggressor who does not want to listen to reason, it is intentional.
This is a deliberate & sustained propaganda campaign by the West.
Watch Dmitry Suslov explaining it – very clearly indeed – with a sardonic smile on his face – from 3:40 onwards (the question from Peter Lavelle comes first):
Very good explanantion.
Imminent..invasion?No but UK/US flase flag yes.
Moscow likely to advise its non-essential embassy staff to leave Ukraine — top diplomat
“We also started thinking about it, maybe it is the Anglo-Saxons who are plotting something if they are evacuating their staff?” Sergey Lavrov noted.
Aluminum price on London Metal Exchange updates all time high
The previous record price was recorded in July 2008
US/UK Destroying World economy on purpose before reset rates will go up at least 4 times in 2002 maybe 7?
UE/RUS capital must go to Anglos markets otherwise they will be brankrupted.
GOAL: destroying Germany + France + Italy(banks almost broken), the rest will follow
False flag + war needed as for WWI WWII
If only the world understood that the Biden administration is causing tension all over the world is because they wanted to scare all the nervous investor to shift their money to the US stock market as a safe haven.
Now that the Fed have plans to raise interest rates many times in 2022, you bet it is time for US to enjoy a major harvest with all its past borrower all over the world. And it also explain how China’s BRI pisses off US lenders as their rates are not only lower and come with no string attached.
Very embarrassing to watch the British minister.
She could only repeat prepared texts to any questions.
Wonder how the British press saw it.
She could only repeat prepared texts to any questions.
Wonder how the British press saw it.
They too will merely follow their prepared and prescribed texts.
The British press, especially the BBC are a tool of UK government and will only report what is approved by the foreign office.
Look at the mess with the Defender entering Crimea waters.
The BBC hack was on board especially for that piece of theatre. And reported that they’d entered Crimea waters. (Snigger). And then he reported that they’d been fired on.
Later, Boris was in parliament deny deny denying it all…. And the BBC piece got wiped off the internet. And very quickly.
Demonstrating the Orwellian world in which we live.
They will report that Truss put Lavrov in his place,the press are scum,they have been telling lies so long they have started to believe their own lies.
“Good morning,” (Then she issues a warning of severe consequences), then throws a bouquet of wilted flowers as a ‘peace token’.
Poor Sergey Lavrov. Hunting for peaceful resolution is like hunting for a spec of fly shit in a truckload of British manure.
This game of pressure versus accusation, a show of impenetrable defense versus rabid provocation, Russia a bulwark against the degenerate warmongers.
The West taking its turns, the French, the Germans, the British, and when will the Americans start another cycle?
The process is the essence of the game of pressure the Russians are playing. They are not surprised or put off by the West’s ‘response’.
The ‘no action’ on the three demands was entirely the expectation. The false starts at ‘negotiation’ are logical.
The extensive arming of the Ukie military, is certainly an elementary reaction to the Russian show of strength.
What the Russians are pressuring is the deep cognitive dissonance suffered by the US and NATO. The longer this pressure campaign continues, the worse for the future of the EU as a common economic market and its component productivity. The longer things take, the clearer for the EU leaders to see that the US is taking their future away. The more direr the situation appears in Ukraine, the worse it is for natural gas to flow to Germany and other EU purchasers of Russian energy.
The Russian ‘threat’ is not generated by Russia’s military, but by the result of being forced out of Europe, driven away by the US and NATO and sanctions against NS-2 and Russian energy sources.This is the threat to EU. It originates in US hegemony, not Moscow’s actions.
When they heap their scorn on Russia, they are begging in reverse polarity for Russia to ‘behave, stay, supply, submit’ like they do to the US.
The notion of sovereignty is incomprehensible to them, and the corollary of ‘security’ is forgotten. They are wrapped tight in a communal security, the hegemonic colonization by NATO. Any outsider, of course, deserves no mutual security. The whole notion of NATO is to engender insecurity in all outsiders.
The West suffers Cognitive Dissonance to the max.
But the EU is being crushed. NATO is being cracked. The US is running out of time.
How the pressure campaign will continue is unknown. But this was a long game Putin began and a very few know what the end will look like and when the end will come.
Focus on the action Russia requires of NATO and the US. It isn’t to achieve an agreement. It is to get action that results in the neutrality of Ukraine (Never NATO Ever), the removal of missile launchers in East Europe, the reduction of NATO to 1997 membership.
The West ignores in their words and actions the Russian demands. But the pressure builds anyway.
What does the US offer to the EU and NATO slaves? War. War with Russia. War the US will stay out of. But War that the vassals will get.
Who best perceives this reality? Zelensky and the Ukies. They see that the US is sending them to perdition, arming them to the teeth and trying to use false flags to get the conflagration started.
But the Ukies are flush with billions of dollars and don’t want a war now. They see no future if there is war.
Are the sides one inch closer than when the Ultimatums were issued?
But the pressure is far greater, and that’s the story. Eventually, the facade of unity will be broken.
It isn’t about military pressure. It is about economic pressure. Russia is forcing the US to show its hand and foot and forcing it to bear down harder each day on the vassals. Submission to US or war. War with Russia or submission. Cognitive dissonance.
The entire hegemony of the US and NATO is built on weakness, an alliance of the disabled.
Never has Europe been so weak as it heads toward a war against Russia.
So too, never has the author of the war intended to go against Russia been so exposed to suffer from such a war. There is no safety in depth.
The risk of war is increasing every passing day, given the lack of experience showed by most political actors on the european side. It is a very dangerous game they play, by being the vassels of the USA. Biden is playing the top dog in this game, and it shows.
I hope Russia will continue to put pressure on NATO and the West. I hope they will soon finalize the Power of Siberia 2 with China so that the majority of the gas currently dedicated to Europe goes to Asia. NS2 will be over with.
As Biden might have said privately: Macron is not De Gaulle, Scholz is not Merkel…
……and Sleepy Joe is no FDR? His popularity rating within the heart of Empire is in the toilet. Not that he cares, he doesn’t even know what day of the week it is.
“𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙖𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙩𝙨 𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣𝙨..”
This is the operative dissembling behind these serial processions to Moskau. But, is it a complete waste of time, as appears from official statements and pressers? Hopefully more serious and fruitful deconflicting is taking place “in smoke-filled back-rooms” between the adults who count.
Meanwhile, officially, Russia sticks to its guns and the main talking points of the Ultimatum. Slimy eels shall not wiggle free from under the impaling titanium trident.
“𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙚𝙭𝙩𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙖𝙧𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐𝙠𝙞𝙚 𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙮” – is of no help whatsoever against the Russian army, if it chooses to incinerate them. As some analysts already noted, these small arms are like the prepositioning of $85 billion worth of arms in Afghan. i.e. the target, again with all things Ukie, is Europe and 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙣𝙤𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧 30 𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙨 𝙬𝙖𝙧 in Old Europe.
“𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙤𝙣𝙜𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙘𝙖𝙢𝙥𝙖𝙞𝙜𝙣 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙪𝙚𝙨, the worse for the future of the EU as a common economic market and its component productivity. The longer things take, the clearer for the EU leaders to see that the US is taking their future away.”
Yes. Russians have heaped a healthy amount of Siberian timber under the EU pot. What would have taken years is now bubbling up in mere weeks. This is among immediate dividends of tension-strategy. And UKUS has no adequate riposte.. Watching the agony of their thrashing about is heartening.
“𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙣𝙤𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙤𝙛 𝙨𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙚𝙞𝙜𝙣𝙩𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙣𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙝𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙞𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙢, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙤𝙧𝙤𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙧𝙮 𝙤𝙛 ‘𝙨𝙚𝙘𝙪𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙮’ 𝙞𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙜𝙤𝙩𝙩𝙚𝙣.”
This is the major decision point for Old Europe now. If they do not reassert sovereignty ASAP, it is Game Over. They are almost out of time and gas. Otherwise UKUS will sacrifice them and feast on their carcass.. As Uncle Benjamin said, “𝘛𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘶𝘱 𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘓𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘺, 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘢 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘚𝘢𝘧𝘦𝘵𝘺, 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘓𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘳 𝘚𝘢𝘧𝘦𝘵𝘺.”
“𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙨𝙪𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝘾𝙤𝙜𝙣𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝘿𝙞𝙨𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙭.”
You cannot serve two masters in the same heart. Either a Merciful and Just Lord of all lords, or Satan. West has to decide. And Russian pressure is forcing them to cease dithering and openly decide for all to judge them.
What happened to your usual concision? I felt I was reading one of my own exhausting comments. Although I admit I like your new rambling. We are all nervous, waiting for this denouement to settle the next 100 years of Western affairs..
” If they do not reassert sovereignty ASAP, it is Game Over.”
Unfortunately, there is no one able to do this, at least within the European “colonial” elite patiently “bred” by the US for the past 30 years.
No illusion on this, in the “Eurotrain” locomotive launched against Russia there is no longer anyone who can pull the “emergency brake. :-(
very perceptive understanding and comment….many thanks for the time and effort you put into all your researches.
Larchmonter, my close friend and comrade, very well said, basically you described the coming ‘game, set and match to Moskau’.
The six landing ships arrived in our harbor today. Here’s a vid of the last one sailing in, the entire group is thus:
“Korolev”, “Minsk”, “Kaliningrad”, “Pyotr Morgunov”, “George the Victorious” and “Olenegorsky Miner”.
everything you have described and what mr putin and comrade xi have doen in their recent announcement is geologic NOT political.
geologic in the sense that pressure and time is what has created the world in which we live from its very start.
there is no power that can withstand placed against it pressure and time…..AND that is backstopped by overwhelming manufacturing prowess and cutting edge unassailable military power, both of which are instrumentalizing peace as the underlying geologic change of the world order moves forward.
this is the crux the usa faces. the tectonic plates have shifted against it into a new configuration. they lack the military and manufacturing power to change this fact as they their cards of rapidly diminishing value.
by keeping a pistol to the wests temple russia/china ensure peace is the likely outcome until the new geologic order solidifies sometime before this decade ends.
what the west is reduced to is the wailing of widows over the loss of loved ones which will continue for sometime yet until grief ends and acceptance occurs.
getting caught up in the day to day media hysteria does not change any outcome other than confusion to those who buy into it.
What a lying Ms. Truss is – I know for a fact that the UK were engaged in Ukrainian language training for Royal Navy officers in the summer of 2021. It is quite clear to people with their eyes open that the UK is being VERY economical with the true state of things.
Flip it on its head … who’s emissaries are visiting whom. If US ZNATO had a leg to stand on, why are they not hosting Russian emissaries, telling Russia who they will talk to and when. Maybe I’m missing something, but the side with the high hand calls the shots….what these annoying trips to Moscow show is….bluff, look at Lavrovs poker face…try reading that. Did Lavrov call, no, deal the next card. Russia still has room to up the pain ante.
It was a double edged sword for ill equipped Mrs Truss to meet for talks with ultra seasoned Lavrov. The press conference turned into a disaster for Mrs Truss and Britain’s image. I liked the question to Mrs Truss about the UK taking part in the Chechnya “separatist” war but not talking to Donbas autonomistas. She looked like she was shitting ice picks. But for the Empire’s establishment it served the purpose to delay and demur while they pump Ukraine with useless and updated weapons. More concerning, are the NATO troop deployments to Poland, Baltics and Romania which although small serve the purpose of distraction. These were followed by the deployment of Kinzhal Mig aircraft platforms to Kaliningrad. Ukraine was promised Crimea or Donbas, or both, but Putin promised Macron that “no one will win.” That is very clearly stated.
Re deployments to Kaliningrad. I haven’t read about this anywhere, would this be made public? In the early 90s there were hundreds of thousands of troops based there. Is this now seen as a region for a possible military-technical response. Slowly building up numbers and capabilities again at the heart of Europe (Revanchists in the EU still look upon Kaliningrad as a future new EU capital!) Clearly this will be interpreted as a “threat” but the same reply could be used, this is a part of Russia, what do you mean “withdraw”, and it should also refresh minds about the meaning and significance of NATOs eastward expansion in Europe and elementary Russian geography. Just imagine the torments Liz Truss will go through having to talk about Kaliningrad when she has no idea where Rostov and Voronezh actually are.
hi peterd, here is what you haven’t read about
One sometimes wishes for the following reaction after the first stupidly arrogant demand of this lady:
Firstly: You do not dictate to us at all what we have to do or not do in our country.
Second: The conversation is hereby ended.
Third: You will be escorted out.
The Russians really need the help of a slick English speaking English/US comms team.
Lavrov gave a loooooooong answer to the first BBC question.
The term used was “coercive diplomacy”. The BBC offered this as a “term we are increasingly hearing” to describe Russian actions. He then accepts this as fact and then slides to an accusation.
Lavrov and Russian spox need to learn these subtle word manipulations. It’s more than a language difference.
Lavrov needed to speak so that he can be understood.
There are no Russian troops on the Ukraine border. Pause.
There are no Russian troops on Ukraine’s border.
Wait for objection.
The Russian troops are in Russia.
Now let us talk about the UK troops in Ukraine.
Deliver the facts of numbers and locations. Even announce the secret and I acknowledged special forces. Reveal a bit of intel.
Talk about UK troops in Poland, in Lithuania in Romania and where else they are infesting.
Next. Talk about the UK surveillance flights over Crimea every day.
Why are UK planes 20km off the Crimea coast snooping at our naval base.
Do you see Russian surveillance planes along the English coast. Buzzing your naval bases?
The BBC guy would not be so smug then.
And UK audiences will be WTF learning for the first time that their military poke the bear daily.
I support all of that!
The diplomatic process is a total charade. Paul Craig Roberts is correct in his assessment that the Neocons interpret the continual Russian overtures as weakness. These people (Neocons) laugh at Russian attempts to make appeals using logic/facts. Logic and facts mean nothing to them. All this back and forth dialog is meaningless. Propaganda rules all, and the anti-Russian ideology is systemic within the West. it isn’t going to change and there is zero inertia among the population to pressure anyone in authority. As this drags on, I’m not sure which side benefits by the delay of a resolution. Perhaps the longer resolution comes, the more time the rest of us have to try to prepare. Its hard to be optimistic about the long-term prognosis for the world at large.
Yeah, they’re laughing all the way to their Bankruptcy. Laughing all the way back from failed missions. Behind closed doors they’ll know where they stand. The comedienne Truss said protracted war and Lavrov could have said well, NATO spend 20 years in Afghanistan, we wont spend 20 days in Ukraine.
USA Inc is liquidated defunct corporation with no authority or contract ( since 12-15-21)..UK INC is defunct under USA INC…London , Crown, Vatican were the owners and ARE the liable principals…None of these above agents are preserving public good & are heavily complicit in war crimes & EVEN genocide of their own countrymen…Do not ever trust such evil!!! Sara:Wallach-Markis©
OOOOH MY WORD!!!!! I am smiling sooo hard my face hurts!! here are some wonderfully delish tidbits about this meeting that are not mentioned elsewhere! Ahh I have such pride and joy in Lavrov and Russia! :)
I just gonna go read it again
I wonder if that walk gave her time to enjoy the beautiful city, architecture, and lights. Respect is earned. Her welcome seem quite justified considering her performance.
It is understandable that Liz Truss, currently the Foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom would confuse unknown places like Voronezh or Rostov with, say, Zhitomir or Vinnitsia.
I expect Serguei Shoigu might do the very same tiny mistake soon enough!
Priceless, this should go in Diplomacy 101 textbooks:
“After that, he himself addressed a question to his British counterpart: “You do recognize Russia’s sovereignty over the Rostov and Voronezh regions, don’t you?”
“The UK will never recognize Russia’s sovereignty over these regions,” the Foreign Minister said after a short pause.”
And some further info, evidently Canadians have been warned through an email sent by Global Affairs Canada to Canadians in Ukraine this week with the message to get out of Ukraine via commercial flights while they can.
And I’m thinking what Lavrov said that it looks like something is afoot in Ukraine
@ Sun Tzu
“…but Putin promised Macron that “no one will win.” …”
That is to be seen. Putin is using a commonplace about war in general, that “no one wins in a war,” however, despite all the weaponry the corrupt West is flooding Ukraine with, Banderastan will not last a week, at the most, and the cost for Russia will be mostly gas and logistics. If there is a war, Russia is to show the world what fighting a modern war means, to exemplify the Western partners what they can expect if entering a war with Russia.
Liz Truss is another ignorant British politician, a bitch with a modicum degree of intelligence for British politics, a total full-time idiot when it comes to international politics. She is there because they rub each other’s back with drunkard Johnson, another full-time idiot. British politicians went downhill long ago, they are surviving on the world stage thanks to the WWII giants and their slot at the UNSC, not because of their acumen. Look at “highly likely” Theresa May, another Russo phobic bitch like la Truss, whose only job is to propagandize the anti-Russian PSYOPS prepared by MI6.
British politics is a quagmire full of shit, and all women politicians there want to be “as tough as nails” as la Thatcher, their model.
They are more than ready for the trash bin of history.
@ Margie Nieuwkerk on February 10, 2022 · at 11:29 am EST/EDT
“…And some further info, evidently Canadians have been warned through an email sent by Global Affairs Canada to Canadians in Ukraine this week with the message to get out of Ukraine via commercial flights while they can…”
From your link to “Hal Turner Radio Show,”
“…In the U.S., White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki points to the State Dept. estimate in October of around 6,600 US citizens living in Ukraine. She reiterates the US does not do mass evacuations & repeats that US is encouraging American citizens in Ukraine to leave “now.”
La Psaki caught lying again: “She reiterates the US does not do mass evacuations…”
How do we call the recent mass evacuation from Afghanistan, a clusterfuck?
They keep on finding them… According to Truss the Baltic countries are on the Black Sea…Lavrov must be saying to Putin please release me I can’t deal with this anymore
For the benefit of non England based readers on this site: Liz Truss is one of Britsh bookmakers favourite candidates to replace Boris “let the bodies pile high” Johnson when Tory trash backbenchers inevitably stab him in the back, front and sideways and kick him out of Downing Street.
This is the calibre of leadership in British politics today.
Out of the frying pan, into another frying pan. Britain is running out of frying pans. Fire is coming.
yet another 80 tons ammo arrived from USA….Uk supplies bulletproof jackets and helmets….to Kiev
I see absolutely no reason for Russia to continue the diplomatic charade. There is nothing that Moscow can gain by more talks. Take a break! Stop the BS, already! You have done your due diligence. You have done your best! Jaw-jaw may be better than war-war, but trying to reason with imbeciles (who think Voronezh is in Ukraine) ad mauseam solves nothing. It only saps your strength and lowers your self-respect. You have shown us first-class diplomacy; now is the time to take a short break before you show us what is in your gut!
Look at the situation another way: The charade has helped Russia enormously, as the intellectual incompetence of British diplomacy has been exposed to the world. The talks can continue and the British will simply keep digging a bigger hole to fall into…(they are so kind as to be bringing the targets right to Russias doorstep, into a cauldron of their own making, saving Russia a lot of extra bother).
meanwhile Russian resolve is (finally) hardening… assuredly because of what they have experienced since 1990…
As a British citizen i am of course infuriated at the gross waste of funds pouring into the Ukraine which should be better spent on solving the myriad domestic problems created by the Inept politicians here.
show them your in the …SYRIA
Sadly the Russians continue these pointless negotiations while the West continues to turn Ukraine into a hostile, ideologically anti-Russian state. It is obvious that none of Russia’s concerns will ever be taken into account. What is the point of speaking about “grave consequences” or threatening military-technical counter-measures without following through? The strong do what they want while the weak suffer what they must.
If this is allowed, besides this there is a quite good wrapup on the MoA, with some dark inside stuff from Kommersant: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/the-mediocracy-of-global-britain.html#more
It is the politeness of the RF, realizing what is at stake, that at least they let those clowns speak. Really, at first I was wondering where such schoolgirls with an attitude are found, moreover while schoolgirls in my nation can point out the Baltic states on a map.
I’m wondering what now. Staying away from discussions might not be the right attitude, while they would not even understand it.
Pepe Escobar already pointed out, that Germany and France are the breaking points. I’ll leave France to commentators from France, but let me share a few things from my German point of view:
– Scholz is by far the most unpopular chancellor in many decades. He is now in a league where he cannot just bow at everybody who throws enough money at him. He’s being ignored by project Baerbock, who only listens to her banker sponsors. Most Germans know she’s a fraud, and banks are not exactly trusted. Ever asked yourself why nearly everybody here still uses cash money?
– Putin is planning a meeting with German industrials: https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/wladimir-putin-plant-treffen-mit-deutschen-wirtschaftschefs-a-513141ac-cde5-4995-b6ed-af8d93cfab03 Let’s see whether they think it is a good idea to let their companies like Siemens, AEG and the like go bankrupt due to ‘gas wars’, or do people really think that it is only households here using gas? Let’s also see who contributes to certain parties, and wasn’t there a juicy discussion started to reconsider nuclear energy? Gee, who could have started this, no CO2 involved, the Greens must be cheering, no?
This is a dangerous poker play, and every time I’m flabbergasted at the incompetence of several people involved. Oh dear.
Btw, @Prince Andrew, thx for giving me a good laugh about your nickname.
Just watched ITV news (6.30 p.m) over here in Albion. You’d think the Foreign Secretary of the 51st State meeting her counterpart in Moscow would be headline news given the current situation regarding their fascist coup plants sitting in Kiev?…….No. Item mumber 3 and then no more than three minutes long. No mention of Liz Truss’ imbecilic comment. A football player kicking a cat is more important. That, fellow travellers, is the sort of crap we have to put up with in England on a 24/7 basis from our betters within the ruling, political, media class.
I repeat, no mention of the Foreign Secreaty’s remarks concerning Russia’s two regions. Zero. Nada. Zilch. If we don’t report it, it didn’t happen. Propaganda by omission. Classic British media in (non) action.
How embarrassing, no, humiliating, that this Truss specimen is touted as the next Leader of the Tory Party and PM of UK, SCARY.
How The Mighty Have Fallen.
Priceless Question asked by journalist articulated in the English language: (paraphrasing) “Ma’am you said that Ukraine is a country in Europe that gets stronger and stronger after waves of invasion by: Huns, mongols, tatars, khazars, etc…..which one is the other country that got stronger after successive waves of invasions?” Crickets, crickets, crickets.
I cannot stop wandering how rude and hypocritical this woman is. I mean, even for an Englishman, this is too much.
I do not speak good enough English to express what I feel and think of her.
But, this excercise was also a good experience for entire world – it is very clear situation now. She clearly said that “NATO open door policy” is not the cost to be payed for agreement. She also said that Minsk agreements will not be conducted unless Russia makes a first step…
Why, why LAvrov discusses anything to her? Simply no more room for words (diplomacy, discussion, persuation…). These people must be hit hard. That is the only language they will understand.
Your English is very good and you got Truss right,the Woman is a joke.
Embarrassing for the UK. Sorry.
No need to be sorry. The U.K. has no one to blame but itself. The U.K. decided to hitch their battered old imperialist caravan to the shiny new hegemonic Yank juggernaut. No one put a gun to their heads, not even Uncle Sam. It was done voluntarily and enthusiastically. 51st state.
Lavrov must have been really pissed to be so ungentlemanly, no model of decorum herself though.
Someone should have asked her, ‘if Russia pulled back it’s forces how long would it take for the 150,000 Nato armed and led Ukrainian army to wipe out the Russians in Donbass?’
1. Honestly, I cannot understand how Russia can stand hearing such nonsense for hours on end, again and again, from the unbearable hegemonic Empire.
2. Quite honestly, I just cannot see what positive outcome Russia expects to result from such repetitive encounters.
3. Again, it is beyond me that Russia does not simply walk out on those uncivilized nations’ representatives, never to accept to meet with them again under similar unacceptable conditions.
4. Why doesn’t Russia then simply declare that all relations with those creatures and the nations they represent being obviously broken and having therefore become futile, it suspends them immediately and indefinitely?
How much more insanity can the Russian Foreign Ministry take from these most unprincipled, dipsomaniacs whose preferred libation is the concoction of cognitive dissidence mixed with dissociative reason and commonsense.
Perhaps the final act of frustration is what we witness in this enclosed video:
did she then go on the rest of her “grand tour “as planned…anyone think it worth to report it?
If she had an ounce of self respect or just a smidgen of self awareness she would have got her ass on the first flight out of Moscow after that demented display.
@ Prince Andrew on February 10, 2022 · at 4:51 pm EST/EDT
No, she didn’t, she had a plan to visit Moscow State University, where she will attend “physics and math classes” according to TASS. Hopefully she will not answer any questions there. :-)
Geography classes would be more apt…..😏
Hey, 2+2=5….. Right… you’ve got the job.
Apparently she has invited Lavrov to visit Uk….
If it is any consolation, the UK gossip rag Daily Mail in carrying it’s predictable “account” of the Lavrov Truss debacle, in it’s ~2000 comments was overwhelmingly dismissive of Truss, expressed disgust and the common feeling being one of “I am feeling excruciatingly embarrassed. Poor Mr. Lavrov”
I was wondering, when will a journalist ask her, or any other emissaries of US or NATO, what exactly is the distance in kilometers, that they would like Russia to place their troops away from Ukraine borders?
What an embarrassingly dim Foreign Secretary she is. Her depth of knowledge is incredible only by its shallowness. It seems there are no longer any educated people in charge in the west. This is not only incredibly sad, it’s dangerous. For poor Lavrov it must be like dealing with someone else’s petulant child.
Lavrov talking one thing and guy translating his own version.
Do you remember what I said so many times: Russians need to nuke those missiles bases in Poland and Romania.
Why do the Russians continue to waste their time talking to these people? I just don’t get it.
Whenever you make pudding the scum rises to the top.
I need to rewatch ” Water” with Michael Caine, I believe Ms Truss had a starring role.
What a cardboard cut out of a politician Liz Truss UK Foreign Secretary fresh from the back stabbing drama of Partygate puffed up like a sad balloon preening herself as the new PM she grandstanded her meetings and press conference in Moscow with little or no concern as to the outcome. Zombie like she had been pre-programmed to repeat the same diplomatic diatribe to Lavrov and the press without exception. Small wonder Lavrov’s distaste was audible and patience paper thin following this diplomatic excrescence by possibly (hand on heart) the next UK PM and leader.
The Daily Mail was so embarrassed that instead of publishing an article on the 10th or 11th of February, it updated an article from the 3rd February so it would not show on the mobile app news feed. Then when 493 readers agreed with Lavrov, they closed the comments. They know she screwed up and are trying to memory hole the whole thing.
Ben Wallace, the defence secretary is about to meet with Shoigu. Ben was in the military from 1991-1998 where he rose to the rank of Captain and has been defence secretary since July 2019. I hope he fares better than Truss, but I am not hopeful.
An imbecilic buffoon of a Royal magnitude. A virago , bereft of intellect or common decency. A concoction of a slimy Thatcherite mendacity and the pompous arrogance of the worst representative of the slave owing class of an empire still crusted in the blood of the peoples they ‘owned’. A creature from the foetid latrines of Hades.