The recent murder of Samir Kuntar by Israel has, yet again, inflamed the discussion about Putin’s relation to Israel. This is an immensely complicated topic and those who like simple, canned, “explanations” should stop reading right now. The truth is, the relationship between Russia and Israel and, even before that, between Jews and Russians would deserve an entire book. In fact, Alexander Solzhenitsyn has written exactly such a book, it is entitled “200 years together”, but due to the iron grip of the Zionists on the Anglo media, it has still not been translated into English. That should already tell you something right there – an author acclaimed worldwide who got the Nobel Prize for literature cannot get his book translated into English because its contents might undermine the official narrative about Russian-Jewish relations in general and about the role Jews played in Russian 20th century politics in particular! What other proof of the reality of the subordination of the former British Empire to Zionists interest does one need?
I have already written about this topic in the past and, at the very least, I will ask you to read the following two background articles before continuing to read:
- AngloZionist: Short primer for the newcomers
- How a medieval concept of ethnicity makes NATO commit yet another a dangerous blunder
Before looking into some of the idiosyncrasies of the Russian-Israeli relationship I want to stress one very important thing: you should not simply assume that the relationship between Jews and non-Jews in Russia is similar to what it is in the West. This is not the case. Without going through a detailed discussion of the emancipation of Jews in the West and their long track from their rabbi-run shtetls to the boardrooms of the biggest western corporations, I will just say that for Russian Jews this process of emancipation happened in a much more violent and catastrophic way. The second big difference between western Jews and Russian Jews is that roughly between 1917 and 1939 a specific subset of Jews (Bolshevik Jews) were in quasi total control of Russia. During that period the Bolshevik Jews persecuted Russians and, especially, Orthodox Christians with a truly genocidal hate. This is a fact of history which most Russians are very much aware of, even if this is still considered crimethink in most western circles. It is also important to stress here that the Bolshevik Jews persecuted not only Orthodox Christians, but all religious groups, including, by the way, Judaics. Putin is very much aware of all these facts which he addressed when speaking to a group of Judaics in Moscow:
In the 2nd article mentioned above I discussed these issues and all I want to do know is to show you that Putin is very much aware of this past and that he has the courage and intellectual honesty to remind Russian Jews of it.
The other absolutely crucial fact about the relationship between Russia and Israel is the immigration of Russian Jews to Israel. Here I will just submit to you a bullet-point list of why this is a crucial factor:
- Regardless of whether they ended up in Israel, Austria, Germany, the USA or Israel, the immigration of Russian Jews to Israel made it possible for those Jews who did not want to stay in Russia to leave. Conversely, those who did not leave stayed by choice. This means that the vast majority, if not all, of the rabid russophobes and Christianity-hating Jews have left Russia. Those who stayed in Russia did so because they decided that it was their home.
- A large number (some estimates go as high has 20%) of so-called “Jews” who left Russia are not Jewish at all, including some of those who settled in Israel. The truth is that the economic and social hardships which faced the Soviet society under Brezhnev & Co and Russia under Eltsin made a lot of non-Jewish Russian invent themselves some (non-existing) Jewish origins just to emigrate. Thus there are many real Russians, as opposed to Russian Jews, in Israel.
- As a result of this big immigration there are innumerable personal ties between individuals and families living in Israel and Russia. This means that when, say, Iraq or Hezbollah rain rockets in Israel there are folks in Russia who are personally concerned about their friends in Israel even if they don’t necessarily approve of Israeli politics.
- The so-called “Russian Mafia” is, in reality, mostly a Mafia of Russian Jews. This is particularly true in the West. In Russia there are Jewish mobsters, but not really a Jewish mob as such. Russian and Jewish mobsters get along famously and that also creates, shall we say, strong “business” ties between “Russian” oligarchs and Israel.
- Under Eltsin the country was de-facto ruled by what was called the semibankirshchina, the “rule of the Seven Bankers”. These were the seven top bankers of Russia who owned about 50% of the entire Russian economy. All of them except one (Potanin) were Jews.
- During the Eltisin years, the vast majority of the members of government and, especially, their advisors were Jews. Jews also were in control of almost all of the mainstream media. To give you an idea of how prevalent this trend was in the 1990s, here is a (machine translated) list of top-level Jews in Eltsin’s Russia I have found on the Internet: (source: https://goo.gl/jZlazH)
The lists of Jews in the Soviet government from 1917-1939 look exactly similar. You can find them on the Internet yourselves.
In truth, folks who compile such lists are rarely motivated by purely scientific purposes and they often don’t feel constrained by strict rules of evidence. So it is quite possible that a certain percentage of “Jews” listed above are not Jews at all. But even with a wide margin of error – you get the picture. Just as between 1917 and 1939, between 1991 and 1999 the reins of power in Russia were firmly in Jewish hands, and in both cases, with truly catastrophic consequences. The big difference is that if in the early 20th century the Jews in power were ideological opponents of the Anglo Empire, in the late 20th century the Jews in Russia were practically an extension of the AngloZionist Empire.
Speaking of extensions of the AngloZionist Empire.
I have already explained many times in the past that the candidature of Putin to succeed Eltsin was a compromise reached between the Russian security services and Russian “big money” who pushed Medvedev as a counter-weight to Putin. I usually refer to the forces backing Putin as “Eurasian Sovereignists” and the forces backing Medvedev as “Atlantic Integrationists”. The goal of the former is to fully sovereignize Russia and make her a key element in a multi-polar but unified Eurasian continent while the goal of the latter is to be accepted by the AngloZionist Empire as an equal partner and to integrate Russia into the western power structures. Next is something so important that I will single it out on a separate paragraph:
The Atlantic Integrationists are still in full control of the Russian financial and banking sector, of all the key economic ministries and government positions, they control the Russian Central Bank and they are, by far, the single biggest threat to the rule of Putin and those supporting him. Considering that roughly 90% of Russians now support Putin, that means that these Atlantic Integrationists are the single biggest threat to the Russian people and Russia as a whole.
How is that all linked to Israel? Simple!
Putin inherited a system created by and for the AngloZionist Empire. He was a compromise candidate between two radically opposed parties and it took him years to first get rid of most of the Russian (Jewish) oligarchs and then, very gradually, begin cleanup process in which slowly, step by step, the Zionists were booted out of their positions of power. According to Mikhail Khazin, the balance between these two groups has only recently reached a 50/50 point of (unstable) equilibrium. That also means that the “Putin people” need to watch their back every day the Good Lord makes because they know that their so-called “colleagues” are willing to stab them in a blink of an eye as soon as they get an opportunity.
I happen to think that the rumors of a coup in Russia are greatly exaggerated. Not only because Putin does enjoy the support of the “power ministries” (Defense, State Security, Internal Affairs, etc.) but, much more importantly, because of the 90% support he has with the Russian people. To overthrow a man with such a cult-like following, a man truly loved by the vast majority of people, would be too dangerous. But that does not mean that the 5th column is not willing to sabotage every effort of Putin and his supporters.
The truth is that Putin has been forced to compromise many, many times. Here are just a few examples:
The oligarchs: when Putin ridded Russia of the semibankirshchina he did not really crack down on all the oligarchs as such. He only got rid of those oligarchs who, like Khodorkovsky, had tried to basically stage a coup against Putin by buying the entire Duma. The oligarchs were told “stay out of politics and I will leave you alone”. The deal is still on today.
The economy: even in his last speech Putin had to declare that he fully supports the Central Bank and the economic Ministers of the Medvedev government. Considering that literally ALL Putin allies openly and vocally are screaming bloody murder about the way the Russian economy is mismanaged, this is clearly a coerced statement and not something he believes in. By the way, I am observing a systematic vilification campaign on the central Russian TV channels against the Central Bank and the economic Ministers and this cannot be a coincidence. I predict that Putin is preparing a purge of these circles, but that he needs to line up all his ducks in a row before taking action, especially by inflaming the public opinion against them. Right now the Russian economy is still run by IMF-stooges, by “Washington consensus” types, hence their crazy policy on interest rates, on buying US obligations, on keeping inflation low, etc. etc. etc. Putin, by conviction, is not what I would call a “socialist” but he is most definitely a proponent of “social markets” and somebody who is trying hard to decouple Russia from the western financial system, and not play by the rules of the Empire.
Foreign policy: right up until Putin’s latest re-election when finally Russia began to have a fairly consistent foreign policy, the policy of Russia has been one of zigs followed by zags. This was especially true during the times when Medvedev was in charge of the Presidency and when Iran and Libya were betrayed by Russia at the UNSC (something Putin openly called “stupid”).
Personalities: remember the hyper-corrupt Minister of Defense Serdiukov? Guess what? He has still not been formally charged with anything. Even the woman he did most of his dirty dealing with still lives in her luxurious apparent in Moscow. What does this tell us? That even when Putin got the hard proof of Serdiukov’s malfeasance he had enough power to replace him by Shoigu, but not enough to power to stick such high-profile “Atlantic Integrationists” into jail.
Nazi occupied Ukraine: Putin had enough control over the government to provide the vital Voentorg and to even send some special forces and artillery strikes across the border to help the Novorussians, but he could not force the economic Ministries to use the Russian economic might to strangle the Ukrainian economy. This resulted in Russia sending artillery shells across the border in Saur Mogila and (basically free) energy across the border to Kiev.
Russophobic propaganda: when recently some third-rate sport journalist, Alexei Andronov, posted a viciously anti-Russian comment in Twitter he was criticized for that by Alexei Pushkov, a journalist who is also the head of the foreign-affairs committee in the State Duma on his own TV show “Postscriptum”. The TV channel which airs the show, TV Tsentr, the censored the segment criticizing Andronov. Then, the famous Russian movie director Nikita Mikhailkov recoded an entire show discussing this event, the TV channel running his show, TV Rossia, also censored the entire episode. As for the director of the TV channel where Andronov works, Tina Kandelaki, she gave Andronov her full support. Bottom line: while Putin did immensely improve the overall quality of the Russian media, the russophobes are still very influential and can spew their hateful venom in total impunity.
I could continue to list example after example, but I think you get the idea: Putin is a very good man in charge of a very bad system.
Now let’s really get back to Syria, Hezbollah and the murder of Samir Kuntar.
First, consider that the decision to militarily intervene in the Syrian war was already a controversial one. Putin pulled this one off by doing two things: explaining to the Russian people that it was better to deal with the terrorists “there” (in Syria) rather than “here” (in Russia) and by promising that he would not send in ground forces. When Daesh and the Turks fulfilled the promise made by Obama and Biden and blew a Russian airliner and, later, a SU-24 bomber out of the sky, the Russian public continued to support Putin, but most Russians, including myself, were acutely aware of the dangers of the situation. At the end of the day, it is Putin’s personal “street cred” which allowed him to stay the course in spite of real fears.
Second, it is clear that Putin and Netanyahu struck a deal when the latter traveled to Moscow: the Israelis don’t interfere in Russian operations in support of the Syrians as long as the Russians don’t interfere in the combat operations between Israel and Hezbollah. This made it possible for both sides to pursue their main interest even if it was at the cost of their secondary objectives. You don’t like that deal and you question its morality? Good! So do I. I am, in fact, intensely uncomfortable with it, but I expect no less from ruthless realpolitik practitioners like Putin and Bibi Netanyahu (good thing you and I are not in power!).
There is, by the way, another precedent which I am just as uncomfortable with: the Russian total backing for the Egyptian military’s bloody repression against the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. I accept the argument that to support the Egyptian military made sense in the context of the war in Syria, but the ethnics of supporting such a regime intensely bother me. This is why Putin is a ruthless but successful politician and I am a little quasi-irrelevant blogger: it takes a ruthless bear to fight ruthless wolves.
This being said, let’s not pretend like Hezbollah is any less cynical when needed. I remind you all that when Imad Mugniyeh was murdered in Damascus by the very same Israelis in an operation which could only have been executed with very high level accomplices in the Assad regime, Hezbollah promised “retaliation” but never peeped a single word against the regime. Neither did Hezbollah have any objections when Assad was torturing Muslims on behalf of the US CIA for the infamous “rendition” program.
As for Putin, he simply has other priorities than to protect Hezbollah or fight Israel:
Surviving inside Russia and not being overthrown by the still very powerful Zionist Power Configuration (to use James Petras’ expression) in Russia being a top one. Another priority would be not to give his (internal and external) enemies the political argument that “Russia is attacking Israel”. Not having a shooting match with Israel and not to have the small and isolated Russian contingent have to fight on two fronts would be crucial too. Ditto not to be accused of having the Russians contingent turned into the de-facto “Hezbollah Air Force” like the US is the “Daesh Air Force”. These are all obvious priorities for Putin.
And then this: while the Russian S-400s can easily shoot down any Israeli aircraft, the Russian AirSpace contingent does not have the materials means to fight Israel or, even less so, NATO and CENTCOM. As for Russia, she most definitely cannot pick a fight with Israel not due to the inherent power of this tiny Zionist Entity, but due to the fact that the US Empire has been thoroughly taken under Zionist control. So those Americans who now complain that Putin “does not have the courage” to take on Israel should first ask themselves how it is that Israel seems to have transformed the USA and Europe in a voiceless Zionist protectorate and what they are doing to liberate themselves from that yoke!
Speaking of the West: one ought to compare the position of the AngloZionist Empire one one hand, and of many influential Russian Jews (in Russia and in Israel) about the war in the Ukraine. While the West has been in total support of the Nazi regime in Kiev, many Russian Jews, especially the very famous ones like Vladimir Soloviev, have taken a categorically anti-Nazi position. And while in Israel the popularity of Putin and Russia is still extremely low, most of the anti-Putin opposition in Russia is not formed of Jews. Finally, the Russian general public is, sadly, extremely poorly informed of the horrors perpetrated by the Zionist regime against the Palestinian people while Israelis and dual-nationals (like Evgenii Satanovskii or Avigdor Eskin) are constantly peddling the notion that “we Russians and Israelis are the only ones standing up to Muslim terrorism” thereby capitalizing to the max by the current war between Russia and Daesh. In other words, Putin would have one hell of a tough time selling the shooting down of an Israeli aircraft to the Russian general public.
I understand that none of the above will have any traction with bona fide Jew-haters or with those who like simple, black and white, arguments. For them Putin will forever remain a sellout, an eternal shabbos-goy or a puppet of the international financiers. Frankly, I am not addressing this to them. But there are those who are sincerely bewildered and confused about Russian policies which do appear to be confusing or even contradictory. To them I will conclude by saying this:
Putin advances his cause one step a a time and he knows how to wait and let events take on their own dynamic. He is also acutely aware that he is literally fighting with one hand tied behind his back and the other one busy defending against external and internal enemies (the latter being far more dangerous) at the same time. I am sure that Putin fully realizes that,at least potentially, his policy of resistance, sovereignization and liberation can lead to an intercontinental nuclear war and that Russia is currently still weaker than the AngloZionist Empire. Just as in the times of Stolypin, Russia desperately needs a few more years of peace to develop herself and fully stand up. This is most definitely not the time for a frontal confrontation with the Empire. Russia vitally needs *peace* and *time*: peace in the Ukraine, peace in Europe and, yes, peace in the Middle-East. Alas, the latter is not an option and, when cornered, Putin did take the decision to go to war. And I am absolutely and categorically certain that if the Empire attacks Russia (from Turkey or elsewhere), Russia will fight back. Russia is willing to go to war if needed, but she will do her utmost to avoid it. This is the price Russia pays for being the weaker side. The good news is that Russia is getting stronger with every passing day, while the Empire is getting weaker. And the power of the AngloZionists and their 5th column in Russia is also weakening with every passing day. But this process will take time.
The big event to watch for is a crackdown on the Central Bank and the economy ministries of the government. Everybody in Russia is waiting for this, Putin even got directly asked this question recently, but he is sill denying it all and saying that he fully supports these saboteurs. Considering Putin’s track, it is plain stupid to say that he really supports them – this is clearly a delaying tactic until the time is right.
Make no mistake. There is no big love between Russia and Israel. But neither is there a lot of hostility, at least not on the Russian side. Most Russian are aware of the ugly role Jews played already twice in Russian history, but this does not translate into the kind of hostility towards Jews which you would see, for example, in the Ukraine. At most Russians can be suspicious of Jewish *power* but rarely does this translate into hostility for Jews as regular people. Some of the most adored Russian public figures, like the bard Vladimir Vysotskii, had Jewish blood. Most Russians also make a distinction between “their” Jews (russophobic Jews in the West) and “our” Jews (Russian Jews who love Russia). But since russophobia has also been widespread amongst Russian elites, before and after the Revolution, it can hardly be described as a Jewish phenomenon. The Russian culture having always been multi-national and multi-ethnic does not really separate people by their ethnicity but judges them much more readily by their actions and ideas. For all these reasons, the hatred of the “Yid” is much more a Ukrainian nationalist phenomenon than a Russian one.
And while most Russians would not want to have a return to power of a new version of the Bolshevik commissars or the “democratic” oligarchs inside Russia, there is a closeness and an anti-Nazi solidarity between Russians and Israelis which should not be dismissed.
Concerning Palestine, Russia will support all the relevant UN Resolutions and thus be the typical and rather unimaginative “two state solution” proponent. At most, Russia will “deplore” or “regret” the abuses of Palestinians by Israelis, but Russia will never become a systematic defender of Palestinian rights like Iran or Hezbollah simply because the future of Palestine is not a Russian priority.
I hope that the above is helpful in understanding why Russia does not take any action to protect Hezbollah against the Israelis (and why she will not prevent Hezbollah from retaliating from Syria, should Hezbollah take that decision). Simply put: there is no compelling internal or external reason for Russia to get directly involved in this while there are plenty of compelling internal and external reasons for Russia to stay out. If in the past the USSR supported the PLO on both ideological and geostrategic reasons, modern Russia today will not follow the same paradigm. Besides, it’s not like Fatah or Hamas are attractive, or even credible, partners for Russia, being in bed as they are with Daesh. Ditto for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
As for Hezbollah, it is not like they need Russia’s protection. Symbolic as they may be, the murders of Imad Mugniyeh or Samir Kuntar will in no way weaken the Resistance. In fact, if the history of the murder of Abbas al-Musawi teaches us anything, it is that sometimes Israelis murder a Hezbollah leader only to find out that the next one is even a more formidable adversary. God willing, this will also be the case this time.
The Saker
I would like to hear more about this topic; perhaps it would make good subject matter for a podcast?
“The so-called “Russian Mafia” is, in reality, mostly a Mafia of Russian Jews. This is particularly true in the West. In Russia there are Jewish mobsters, but not really a Jewish mob as such. Russian and Jewish mobsters get along famously and that also creates, shall we say, strong “business” ties between “Russian” oligarchs and Israel.”
And the Western Mafias?
All the mobs/mafias have been infiltrated and taken over by Intelligence around the time of Kennedy and have been run as CIA sub-divisons ever since.
Other CIA sub-divisions include:
– Mercenary armies (Daesh, Boko Haram, …)
– NGOs (Amnesty International, WWF, Greenpeace, …)
– Controlled Academics (Seymour Hersh, Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman, …)
– Sects and Cults (Crowley’s OTO, UFO cults, Flat Earth cult, CO2-is-dangerous cult, …)
and myriad more.
Saker means the Russian Mafia operating inside Western European are mainly of “Jewish” origin
Read “Red Mafiya” by Robert Friedman the book that opened the wests eyes to the jewish mafiya posing as Russians.
A brief guide to Jewish mafias, from a Jewish source
Dissident Jew Henry Makow notes, the top highest level of oligarchy is mostly non-Jewish excepting the Rothschilds … Oligarchs do love to use Jewish mafias, tho, as their principal instruments & enablers … Jewish mafia members are more visible than their oligarch masters, hence a common impression Jews are at the ‘top’, an illusion that both oligarchs & some Jews love to promote
‘Devotion to Israel’, ‘protection of Jews’, ‘combating anti-Semitism’ etc … are really code phrases for loyalty to oligarch-serving mafias … hence oligarchs require the ‘Jewish loyalty test’ … Rockefellers Bushes etc really don’t care about Jews but they do want everyone to be on their knees before oligarch mafias
Yes 40% of US billionaires are Jews … but the 60% of ‘goy’ US billionaires could close down & confiscate assets of all US billionaire Jews in a heartbeat … oligarchs do not do so, because no other group of mafias can substitute in quality & effectiveness
To speak of Jewish mafias is a helpful approach to avoid ‘anti-Semitic’ canards. People accept there are Italian mafias, Balkan mafias etc without these references being taken as racist or bigoted or attacking the majority of Italians etc … Speaking of ‘Jewish mafias’ has the virtue that, as with ‘Italian mafias’, the term excludes many Jewish commoners who are duped or blinded or rejecting re mafia activities
‘A Jew’s Guide to Jewish Mafias’ –
[adapted from web commenter ‘Rebel Jew’]
Why do top oligarchs prefer to use Jewish mafias above all other mafias? They have unique advantages:
(1) Jews are intrinsically a small group, easily monitored by oligarchs
(2) Non-mafia Jews are subject to religious-ethnic commands not to critique fellow Jews in public, so other Jews are ‘in violation’ if they criticise or expose Jewish mafia activities
(3) Jews have a 2000-year tradition of some being co-operative ‘court Jews’ for the highest power in any society, willing to participate in any war or cruelty which makes use of Jewish mafias as enablers
(4) Because even when powerful, Jews remain vulnerable as a resented minority … after thousands of years of living vulnerably, & at times attacked & killed en masse, Jews often have the mentality of ‘end justifies the means for us, ‘we have every right to be devious in any way, as necessary for us just to stay alive’
(5) Jewish tradition & religion includes horrifying ideas of supremacy, racism, domination of non-Jews, conquest & enslavement, taken directly from most ‘holy’ Jewish book the Torah (combined Bible & rabbi comments)
— Most Christians never actually read their Bible’s most disturbing passages, such as ‘God-ordered’ genocides of women & children by ancient Israelites
(6) Jews have an un-matched devotion to education & acquiring skills & talents; plus a tradition that is instrumentalist rather than dogmatic … In Jewish religious studies Jews even ‘argue with God’, questioning all ‘rules’ as Jews seek new ways to survive, thrive & prosper
(7) As children, Jews are often psychologically harmed in ways that tend to make them neurotically intelligent, manipulative, devious, & ruthlessly desirous of seeking power & wealth … this is done by:
— (a) Universal male baby child genital mutilation (circumcision) & non-stop reminders of this, traumatising Jewish psychology … leading to subconscious desire for domination of others, plus mutilating their own children so the trauma-game of Jews is perpetual … Jewish power-obsessions sublimate Jewish desire of revenge for their maimed genitals, revenge for bodily harm that can never be undone, so they ‘do unto others’
—[Note that only 3 cultures mutilate baby boys – Jews; Muslims; & USA Yanks deceived by Jewish doctors – 3 cultures associated with many of the world’s problems]
— (b) Constant talk of Jews being vulnerable & in danger, & outsiders being natural enemies, leading to extreme devious measures being accepted as necessary for Jews to survive, no amount of wealth or power ever being enough to protect a Jew
(8) From their history of seeking to thrive as a minority, Jews have overall developed a preference for what oligarchs also prefer: A mix of cultures & ethnic groups, a certain amount of chaos, conflict & confusion, in which both rulers & populations will turn to ‘experts’, often Jewish, for ‘management of the situation’
(9) Jewish groups can cash in on pro-Jewish, pro-Israel cultism in Christianity & Islam, ‘Abrahamic religions’ now affiliating 3 billion people, half the world … Any Christian or Muslim or Western person criticising Jews, is in effect criticising his own heritage aside from being ‘anti-Semitic’
(10) Jewish power groups now have the State of Israel as a base of operations, continually stoking conflict in Palestine & the Muslim world … which also gives additional influence to Jews as ‘natural’ advisors & agents in a world where Islamist-related conflict & Muslim extremism are being fostered
(11) Easily-induced resentment of prominent Jews who act as manipulating mafias, quickly segues into general anti-Jewish statements which can then be condemned as racist, anti-Semitic, hate-criminal, & especially ‘evil’ after 1933-45; & also the inverse, in that a shield of protection for Jewish mafias who serve oligarchs, can be imposed on grounds of ‘protecting threatened Jews’ & ‘fighting anti-Semitism’
(12) Dislike for prominent Jews who act as manipulating mafias, & debate & campaigns about ‘anti-Semitic bigotry’, significantly distract from attention to oligarch power … thus anti-Jewish themes are actively promoted by some ‘fake opposition – heat sink’ figures & websites that are funded & operated by oligarch agents … Leading Jews accept ‘drawing the heat’ in exchange for which they receive significant power & compensation, & also given that ‘anti-Semitism’ tends to ‘keep Jews together’ & in perpetual docility to Jewish leadership
Dear “The Saker”,
you wrote up a new masterpiece and this is one of the very few www articles I instantly saved to disk.
Nevertheless, before having read all links to the end and actually not being in a position to dedicate half a night for commenting: Putin disappoints me with his view, that Communism was “based on false ideology, end of the story”.
What’s wrong with forbidding all these murderous useless religions?
What’s wrong with creating a country by the people for the people?
The Oligarchs need to be hanged.
And religion is only a tool to control the masses (in fact before the invention of printing and later Radio and TV it was exactly such a util like now TV).
I don’t care how many “jews” were members of the politburo.
As long as we had the Soviet Bloc at least they needed to pretend that they wanted to serve the people. And: Even in the capitalist West as well, due to competitions of ideology / values!
Since the finall fall, in 1989 the globalist Oligarchs on both sides can now rob us off and eat us alive. During Soviet Times this wasn’t possible.
If Putin really thinks like this and didn’t simply say it to let them hear what they wanted to hear, he lost a lot of my symphathy points.
The only truly false ideology is the West’s exponential groth of the economy which it needs to hide the fact that it is the bloody killer machine that it is, and to do so enslaving the planet even more and killing even more people.
FOR THE SOVIET UNION! IMAGINE!
1. Mai in Köln – “Bandiera rossa”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB42TInQaR0
” The only truly false ideology is the West’s exponential growth of the economy which it needs to hide the fact that it is the bloody killer machine that it is, and to do so enslaving the planet even more and killing even more people ” >
A superb and very appropriate representation of the post Industrial revolution world indeed !
One of the strategies attributed to Putin et al in the article is that “the West’s exponential growth of the economy” is not happening and represents the weakness of the west that Russia needs another 3-5 years to exploit.
Martin, I thought that you would understand in my answer to Antonsen in the last Sandbox, that I left a congratulation for next Christmas for you all here in the blog, days ago. When I wish you all a happy Christmas and a happy new year, you are included, of course, why would not you be, if you are one of the few Communists comrades here and probably the only one, with me, admiring, respecting and trying to make some justice of Stalin?
I wish you a Merry Christmas, and a new year full of health, peace and prosperity. I hope your problems with work will be solved next year and you will be able to travel to Russia, as is my intention.
A big hug, Martintxo! ( affectionate Basque diminutive of Martin ).
Querido compañero Elsi!
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your nice message,
and let me wish you the same good wishes for 2016!
I’m glad to see your message now.
Sorry for being somewhat thin-skinned.
During the past 5 weeks I spent 12 to 18 unpaid hours per day on my open-src operating system project (I always do that, but normally not in being bugged by such a terrific eternal technical stall like this time). And if I tell more details I could from now on use my clear text name with full address here, so I won’t (although the CIA probably knows me anyway, err, Stalin’s spirit shall go after them!). But I was in a tough situation where most others had already given up, but I still continued the fight. I got stuck with the same kernel panic for 5 weeks. NOW last night at 3am Berlin time a wonder happened and now the most difficult part of that technical issue is FIXED! Maybe it had to do with the positive energy you sent me.
I don’t believe all the lies about Stalin.
Let’s listen to somebody who really knew him.
Especially concerning hiw warm brotherly friendship with Kirov (3:47)
Stalin’s Bodyguard Talks About Stalin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bcmGnygysU
¡Feliz Navidad! Y Feliz Año Nuevo!
Always good health and a clear mind!
A big towarishly hug back, Elsi!
Ouch, to my comment from half an hour ago: I must add: In that video the translation about Kirov’s murder is intentionally misleading (to use this against Stalin).
What he said was in fact meant as something like “he got murdered by somebody”.
Because the “they killed him” was non-dedicated.
One must watch the entire vide.
Regards, %martin
No. I also stand with you both.
Kaixo Oxandabaratz!
Glad to hear that you stand with us.
As you do not comment a lot here, I had no idea what your orientation was.
Aizu, with Martin I have little chance of meeting ( although I hope that at least a bunch of us could make a travel to Russia together ) but, as you seem to be also in the Basque Country, I wonder if maybe we could meet and talk about this, I can not do it with the people around me because they remain too ignorant and alienated, only pending of their mobile devices and struggling not to look proletarians anymore …..
( nolanahi ere, esan dudana alde batera uztea aske senti ezazu )
Besarkada bat! Osasuna eta bakea!
Zorionak eta Urte Berri On!
The problem is exponential growth of debt and that under the present system any issuing of money is also an issue of debt that is then kept in the system.And exponential growth of the parasite financial ‘economy’.
Hi Martin,
on October 08, 2015 · at 3:06 pm UTC you said http://thesaker.is/russias-civilizational-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-156115 you replied to me:
“@ Anonymous: If you don’t trust Vladimir Putin, I DO.”
You finally seem to have awoken from your slumber.
Take Christ out of it – I wish you a Happy Xmas
IMAGINE.
Hi Anonymous,
a pity you don’t invent some nick name (what about Lenin?)
Well, I won’t make a secret out of it that I must agree with you that I’m a bit disappointed in certain areas.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t trust him anymore.
However – his remarks towards the Greatest Nation on Earth (“false ideology blah”) do indeed disappoint or even hurt me.
Happy X-Mas (non-religiously) and Happy New Year!
For the Soviet Union, IMAGINE!
A bit disappointed – keep on believing in father christmas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXCEdrnaFlY
To all brainwashed BBC watchers and Communism haters:
No, that’s not New York:
Life in the USSR 1947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJkiS0CSJnE
Agree with you – like reading the saker but he is has a problem with jewry – too much for my liking. Uncle Joe would find this post by the saker however correct to a point.
hello Martin
I interpret this words of Putin “comunism was based on a false ideology”, as a subtle recognition that despite the believes of theyr constructors, the real socialism of XX century didnt conduct to comunism but to capitalism. This is true by reality today. The real socialism of XX century was light years superior to occidental imperial capitalism, because the advances achieved from 1917 until 1953 that aproched to comunism, but after 1953 inside traitors devied from comunism to socialdemocracy, and with a reposition of capitalist way of podution, maintaining a socialist paradigm, this was a false ideology that conduct this anti-capitalist political will, impregned by a capitalist way of prodution, to auto extintion. What remain was capitalism.
By other hand the historical time for the real socialism of XX century ended with the real historical end of capitalism in october 2008. The end of one was the end of the other as one each other alterego. Never we will see from 2008 the return of something like west capitalism or east socialism, they are historical surpassed. System and antisystem that do not work never because reached their historical end.
Posed like this, the false ideology must be corrected, must go to the inventors of comunism, from babeuf to saintsimon, from genial marx to lenin, in theorical therms, but special from the praxis of Stalin, the first one marxist-leninist of history, that construct the model system more aproximated to comunism. Today the task of revolutionary parties and forces is to implement the comunism, the only solution to stop the barbarian declination of moribond capitalism worst since 2008.
Do not expect to see jaruzelsky, ceausescu, and other big figures of history of their time again, despite their unsubstituible role for humanity, simply because this is not happen. Must look forward to future of humanity, that is the comunism as described and theorized by the classicals, this is the way to fight for humanity and civilization agains barbarianism of moribond capitalism.
Perhaps real socialism of XX century assimilated for the system of soviet union from 1953 was based on false ideology, that intended construct socialism but with the maintenance of capitalist way of prodution, where the sale value superimpond the use value of wellness, this way was in fact an erronious option that conduct these regimes to capitalism as we can see today, but the constructors couldnt see at their time. Perhaps the correction of this false socialdemocrat ideology must be corrected for the true ideology of comunism.
pedro
Dear Saker, I remember reading an excellent analysis you made few years back, about why Russia should have a very close alliance with Shi’a Islam in its global fight against the AnglZionist Empire…and you and I know and repeatedly say ” the AngloZionist empire…” And not the Anglo Empire…. And Israel being the quintessential home of Zionists worldwide….then you and I are totally wrong to read it in the way described in your latest excellent attempt at explaining the explicable….
Having said that, I can only see from the latest Vlad Putin actions when visiting Tehran of late….is that he seems that he made the determination and Putin followed your advise of a very close alliance with Iran and its Shi’a creed…for lack of a better word….and Russia has cemented its relatin with Iran for good, and it’s a strategic choice par excellence… All the above makes me conclude that something is still amiss in this whole equation…. .?
Best and warmest regards, Joe ( yes it’s me… Joe )
Amiss is that both danavas & persians were same before. Today they are torn,
As of 11/24/2015 there is a kindle version of 200 Years Together on Amazon.com for $4.99.
(Beats paying $85+ for non-English version.)
Thanks, Saker, for an excellent and in-depth commentary on Russian-Israeli relations.
Even if both the sides are playing ruthless ‘real-politic’ as of now, a time will come, in near future, when the gloves will be off for a direct confrontation – the ultimate prize the AngloZionist plutocracy targeted since past 250 years is (1) breaking up of Russian and Chinese countries (2) controlling the natural resources of entire Eurasian landmass, and Russian (and Chinese) leadership know perfectly well that the Israeli leadership is core of this AngloZionist plutocracy who want to control their land and resources ! As you pointed out rightly, for Russian and Chinese leadership, another 5 years of ‘peace’ and ‘preparedness’ is extremely vital.
Saker
Thanks for the explanation. I tend to agree with what you said here. Most of it, especially the main points.
Thanks Saker,that was a great article. I appreciate it. I know about that,but its nice to have somebody calmly remind me sometimes. I have a tendency to “black and white ” thinking some days. Even though I know from history,that things are almost always gray.
I’ve been watching the post-Russian-intervention bombings by Israel and also concluded it was “realpolitik”. I have no illusions that Mr. Putin would crank up the S500 for me if the JDL ever decided to carry out their death threats–even though I have been a friend of Russia. I’m sure Hezbollah doesn’t either. I think the Israelis killed Samir (and a bunch of others who had the misfortune of living in his building) to provoke the Palestinians, whom they wish to expel from their land. They would also like to see Hezbollah drawn into a war with the Saudi coalition, U.S., U.K., France and others since Israel was so roundly defeated by a group (with no tanks or air support) their troops outnumbered 20:1.
I have seen a translation of at least part of “200 Years of Living Together”. I’ve also read the complete Gulag Archipelago–including the volumes dealing with Jewish mass murderers of Russians like Frenkel, Aaron Solts, Berman, Yagoda, etc.
I do not see “Jew haters” existing in a vacuum–that is absent real or perceived actions by Jews–the term “reactionary” from the Communist era is more accurate. I doubt that, outside of AZ-backed provocateurs, there are many real “Jew haters”, i.e., people who hate Jews solely because of the accident of their birth. The converse is not the case for religious Jews, who believe non-Jews have an inferior soul while Jews have a higher soul, hence this “Jew hater” canard is readily believed by rank-and-file Jews who believe non-Jews must feel the same way about them. One could cite post-Weimar Germany as a counter-argument, but that would require one to forget the excesses of the Weimar period (dubbed the “era of greatest Jewish ascendancy in German history” by one Jewish author.) This was followed in 1932 (when no Jews had been arrested or harmed) by a declaration of war on Germany by “all the Jews in the world” by the World Jewish Congress. And then a worldwide boycott of German goods and shipments broken only by the Molotov-Von Ribbentrop Nonaggression Pact. (So, did Germans then boycott Jewish stores and break a few windows in a vacuum and were they simply “Jew haters”?)
Solchenitsyn’s 200 years together is partly available (in english) e.g. here:
https://200yearstogether.wordpress.com/
Tom, you will note that it is NOT PERMISSIBLE to mention the existence of Jewish goy-haters, although, even just on the balance of probabilities, they must exist, and even a very cursory examination of utterances by Israeli Rightwingers and orthodox and ultra-orthodox, and their supporters in the Diaspora, shows that they do indeed exist, in great numbers. Hardly surprising given the nature of Judaism and the selective morality between Jews and non-Jews that it preaches. Even as long ago as the early Roman Empire Tacitus noted that of all the myriad people under Rome’s rule, the Jews were the most notorious for the depth of their hatred and animosity towards others. You could ask any Palestinian, Lebanese or Syrian if that has changed over the centuries.
A little grain of sand in an otherwise smoothly running analysis: Ukraine is not Nazi occupied, but Jewish occupied, with the full backing of the Zio-Anglo world.
They are nazis — your anti-semitism is showing.
There are nazis there, of course – many of whom are in government and have strong support. But the real power in Ukraine is Jewish-held. The oligarchs are Jewish, Yats is Jewish, Poroshenko is Jewish. As in Nazi Germany, the nazis in Ukraine came to power financed and supported by the AngloZionist Empire and used for their own purposes.
Yet some are Jewish (Khazar) crooks posing as Nazi´s and have no problems with that, Zionism and Nazism are twins
And Albert Einstein and a host of other good people were/are Jewish. Equating Jewish with evil is antisemitic. There is a huge difference between zionisim and Judaism.
Ok blue, this time you are 100% correct.
Reference:
Jews against Zionism
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jews+against+Zionism
See how well jews and Arabs peacefully lived together for centuries before the Zionist Khazars took their lands and drove the Palestinians into the Sea.
As a matter of fact Zionism is ANTI-jewish.
Israel is not the land of the jews, but the land of the Rothschilds.
And their country’s state symbol is not the Star of David, with the RedSchield (which looks the same).
I am not the only one who failed to see it. Maybe you can enlighten us.
Very true. There is good and bad among all peoples. Sometimes even in a single person. As horrible as the nazi Germans were in the USSR. Amidst, all the calls for vengeance against all Germans. Stalin (of all people) calmed them down and said, “Hitlers come and go, but Germany and the German people remain.”
Uncle Bob, the great difference is that, while Jews are indeed as mixed a group morally and ethically as any other, Jews are unique in that, in the West, it is totally forbidden to criticise the behaviour of actions of any Jew, anywhere, even if their actions, if committed by a non-Jew, would be universally condemned. Through their notorious belligerence and aggression (often criticised by fellow Jews as unseemly and self-harming)and their control of politics and the MSM in the West, they have made it impossible to criticise any atrocity, even massacres like Gaza. Each and every such critique, if it is even given publicity, is instantly denounced as ‘antisemitism’. Indeed the supposed great wave of ‘antisemitism’ that is always washing across societies is easily fabricated, by turning any argument with a Jew or any criticism of any Jew into an instant pogrom or ‘antisemitic’ attack. It is an amazing racket that de facto raises Jews to the status of the only group in history who are utterly incapable of doing wrong, and all their numerous victims brought their suffering on themselves because of their ‘antisemitism’.
@ blue,
Excerpt:
“Shahak draws on the Talmud and rabbinical laws, and points to the fact that today’s extremism finds its sources in classical texts which, if they are not properly understood, will lead to religious warfare, harmful to men and women of all religious beliefs.
This book, Shahak wrote, “is, in a way, a continuation of my political activities as an Israeli Jew. Those activities began in 1965-66 with a protest which caused a considerable scandal at that time: I had personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew, who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighborhood. Instead of simply publishing the incident in the press, I asked for a meeting with the members of the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, which is composed of rabbis nominated by the State of Israel. I asked them whether such behavior was consistent with their interpretation of the Jewish religion. They answered that the Jew in question had behaved correctly, indeed piously, and backed their statement by referring to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this country. I reported the incident in the main Hebrew daily, Ha’aretz, whose publication of the story caused a media scandal.”
http://www.wrmea.org/2001-october/with-israel-shahak-s-death-a-prophetic-voice-is-stilled.html
Burning Churches Is Legitimate Under Jewish Law
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/8/8/burning-churches-is-legitimate-under-jewish-law
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4688289,00.html
And video ( below) featuring Israeli Jew Yossi Gurvitz in which he says:
“Rabbinical Judaism is a Judaism that hates humans”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY
I noticed, blue, you accused non Jews of anti semitism. Here are quotes from some very prominent Jews about Jews:
“If the tables were turned and others were Jews, wouldn’t we have good cause to hate them, ourselves”—Yosef Haim Brenner (Influential Zionist writer and teacher. One of Israel’s top literary prizes carries his name.)
“Those loathsome Jews are vomited out by any healthy collective and state not because they are Jews, but because their Jewish repulsiveness”. –Uri Zvi Greenberg ( Founded the ultra-militant Zionist “Bris HaBariyonim” faction. (He believed the Holocaust was the “tragic but inevitable outcome of Jewish destiny to indifference to their destiny).
“Sterile Jewish masses living off parasitically off the body of an alien economic body”—David Ben Gurion ( Zionist Jew and FIRST Prime Minister of Israel, from Mimaamad Leam, page 196)
“Israel is a sick society that needs treatment”– Israel’s President , Reuven Rivlin
And a clip from from the documentary “Defamation (2009)” where a Jewish woman talks about
“Jews and monkey business” ( her words).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loXwb8Zy-eg
Carmel by the Sea
@ blue,
You say: ” And Albert Einstein and a host of other good people were/are Jewish”.
Excellent human being born Jews: Israel Shahak, Gilad Atzmon ( well okay, former Jew), Gideon Levy and Yossi Gurvitz among others.
The problem is that organized Jewry only includes self-accolades and instances of its own victimization as part of the “Jewish narrative”.
It is time that Jews accept the more controversial and less flattering history as part of that narrative— The JEWISH BOLSHEVISM and its partnership with Stalanists in the Soviet Holocaust State-organized mass murder of millions.This is part of a historical facts.
A lot of Bolsheviks and Communists were raised as Jews. And they murdered tens of millions more than the Nazis ever did !
Jewish bankers like the Schiffs, Warburgs and Rothschilds directly and indirectly financed the Bolshevik revolution.
The Bolsheviks who made the case for Communism and midwifed it into a mass murderous reality were LARGELY JEWS.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
“You’re responsible for the predictable consequences of your actions.”
—Noam Chomsky
Carmel by the Sea
From what I’ve seen, a thing with Jews is they tend to be pro intellectual and education, and they also tend to help each other (the ‘tribe’). Much of US is anti-intellectual, with schools that dumb people down to make them easier to control, and also provided easily controlled labor for the factories during the industrial revolution when the public school system grew so much. But immigrants had resistance to that since educational and professional status was already respected (while many other people I’ve run into even now are told by their fathers ‘you don’t need no college — you’re no better than me so get job in the factory like I did’). Add to that both anti-semitism and the early consideration of banking as ‘sinful’, and we see a number of forces which converge Jews also learn a second or third language which is usually not the case for the native born USAians.
As a result, there are different expectations for Jewish kids, including becoming professional, and entering business, often with the help of relatives. Not all immigrant groups have this sort of culture. That’s the US, but perhaps elsewhere (although I have no personal experience). They are supposed to be educated, to get ahead, and to cooperate with their extended family (‘I can get that for you wholesale’). All in all, the ‘tribe’ tends to be better connected, cooperate with each other, and accumulate power and money, so the normal percentage of predators, as found in any group, are often better positioned to do their thing.
That’s not to say that other groups (including immigrants) don’t do this but perhaps are not as practiced and effective at it, succumb to infighting, or get into other sorts of positions, such as the Irish who naturally become policemen, or clergy (and eventually perhaps local politicians), during the wave of immigration to New York in the early 20th century (being one of the few jobs they could get).
The thing is, the interaction between ethnic culture and the native culture tends to push people into certain positions and characteristics, where there is often positive reinforcement and cultural adaptation.
How are they Semitic if they came from Europe and Russia ?
At this point antisemitic does not mean against Semites but against Jews. One might argue that the term has been distorted or is misleading, but that is the definition and usage.
http://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism
Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites. Arabs and other peoples are also Semites, and yet they are not the targets of anti-Semitism as it is usually understood. The term is especially inappropriate as a label for the anti-Jewish prejudices, statements, or actions of Arabs or other Semites. Nazi anti-Semitism, which culminated in the Holocaust, had a racist dimension in that it targeted Jews because of their supposed biological characteristics—even those who had themselves converted to other religions or whose parents were converts. This variety of anti-Jewish racism dates only to the emergence of so-called “scientific racism” in the 19th century and is different in nature from earlier anti-Jewish prejudices.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anti-Semitism
Etymology
From the German Antisemitismus, which was coined in 1879 by German political agitator Wilhelm Marr to replace Judenhass (“Jew-hatred”) to make hatred of the Jews seem rational and sanctioned by scientific knowledge. The similar term antisemitisch (“anti-semitic”) was first used in 1860, by Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider. See Wikipedia’s article on the etymology and usage of the term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology
Usage
Despite the use of the prefix anti-, the term “anti-Semitic” is not a direct opposite of “Semitic” which linguistically makes the term a misnomer. Within common, day to day usage, however, the terms “anti-Semitism” and “antisemitism” have accepted and specific use to describe prejudice against Jews alone and in general.[1][9] This is despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.
I really can’t believe you endorse this political contrivance – ‘anti-semitism’ – purely on the grounds of ‘common usage.’
Ever wonder exactly why it became ‘common usage’?
To conflate European colonists in the land of Palestine with its indigenous, real Semite peoples.
To give the colonization/land theft a spurious ‘historico/cultural’ legitimacy .
All to distract from the fundamental truth – the worst anti-semites (no scare quotes because simple fact) are the Jewish colonizers who are committed to a policy of ethnic-cleansing of the semite peoples of Palestine.
The likes of the appalling Shaked and Bennett (Minister of Education??!!) who have a publicly avowed policy of anti-semitism – to the point of openly calling for genocide – would greatly appreciate this ‘common usage.’ It allows them – the actual aggressors – to cloak themselves in the true ethnic garb of their actual victims.
I refuse on both logical and moral grounds to compound this travesty – irrational dislike of Jews is Judaeophobia (and its not hate – that is a subjective issue and measure of intensity.)
Peter J Antonsen is right – at least for the sake of this blog’s commitment to truth, do not compound this lie.
Prof. Leibowitz: There are Judeo-Nazis. Israel Represents the Darkness of a State Body: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM2fXTkjU2E
Jews can be Nazis too. Look at the Israeli leaders.
Prof. Leibowitz: There are Judeo-Nazis. Israel Represents the Darkness of a State Body. —- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM2fXTkjU2E
Hear! Hear! How true are your words dear The Saker.
Btw…excellent article this. You have outdone yourself !
I hope you and your family had a wonderful and lovely Christmas!
God bless you and Russia.
Carmel by the Sea
Oh what a tangled web America weaves, when first it practised to deceive! That the situation in the world has become dangerous, due to the glaring inability of the government of the American Empire of Chaos to comprehend the effects around the world, of it’s highly duplicitous relationships with Middle Eastern “terrorism” as represented by the array of organizations IS, ISIS, ISIL, El Nusra, etc, and the never-ending and concurrent calls for “regime-change, necessitates the imminent need for some delicate diplomatic maneuvering!
“Oh what a tangled web America weaves, when first it practised to deceive! ” — You got that paraphrase of Walter Scott from me, either on YouTube or on my Facebook page! I posted it some time ago on both. :)
Great article, thanks for the good backgroung info on russian jews.
Off topic: router backdoors by juniper http://www.wired.com/2015/12/researchers-solve-the-juniper-mystery-and-they-say-its-partially-the-nsas-fault/
Thank you. Saker. The more I read lately the more I suspect that most people – partially in the world and totally in the west – don’t clearly understand Russia’s interests. Certainly I don’t. I greatly appreciate your reason for writing this article, in order to help those of us who are truly trying to puzzle out all the layers and complexities of this land and nation that has so captivated us with its charisma.
I found this essay very helpful. I also went back and read your two recommended earlier pieces concerning AngloZionism, and Russo-Jewish experience in the last century or two.
It’s good to see one of your long articles here, offered as always from the heart as an attempt to sort out for us the meaning of events within their natural context.
It’s an excellent piece. It addressed point after point, and then didn’t stop but kept on addressing even more points. Obviously it took you some work to write this. I enjoyed every word. Thank you very much.
Grieved,
I wonder if I need to understand Russia’s ‘particular’ interests… The fact that Russia is NOT going to succumb to Western supremacy is enough to me. I believe that this is exactly what is needed to break apart capitalism-imperialism, the insolvent financial system, the Ponzi scheme of the banksters.
It puzzles me – if most Russian are aware of the ugly role Jews played already twice in Russian history, why doesn’t this translate into some posture, not a violent one, but a swift and decisive in measures.
Because not every Bolschevik was a Jew in fact Stalin,Lenin and most other minor bureaucrats were not—Stalinism was a inner putsch against the Jewish intelligensia which held many of the major positions at first. Trotsky was exiled in 1928 by the way so was out of the picture rather quickly. Communism in Russia as a anglozionist conspiracy—that is making history way, way too facile.
Not every Bolshevik was a Jew. Many were Mensheviks and not a few members of “Poale Zion ‘Workers of Zion’, movement of Marxist–Zionist Jewish workers founded in various cities of Poland, Europe and the Russian Empire in about the turn of the 20th century after the Bund rejected Zionism in 1901. Poale Zion Left in Russia participated in the Bolshevik Revolution and organized a brigade of Poale Zion activists nicknamed the “Borochov Brigade” to fight in the Red Army. In October 1919, a faction of the Left Poale Zion founded Mifleget Poalim Sozialistiim (Socialist Workers Party) which became the Jewish Communist Party in 1921…In 1919, the Communists of Poale Zion Left split to form the Jewish Communist Party which ultimately joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union =PCUS(b), b for Bolshevik.
As for the myth that Lenin was not Jew:
Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files
By Emmanuel Grynszpan / Le Temps / Worldcrunch Monday, June 13, 2011
“A recently opened exhibition in Moscow’s State Historical Museum is shedding some light on a long-guarded Russian secret: the origins of Soviet founding father Vladimir Lenin. Lenin’s maternal grandfather, the exhibition revealed, was born Jewish…
“In a letter to Stalin in 1932 — six years after Lenin’s death — Anna Ulyanova, Lenin’s older sister, wrote that their maternal grandfather “came from a poor Jewish family and was, according to his baptismal certificate, the son of Moses Blank.” Blank was born in Zhitomir, Ukraine. In her letter, Ulyanova said her brother “had always thought highly of Jews.” She also urged Stalin to reveal Lenin’s Jewish background, concluding that “it would be wrong to hide it from the masses.”
Trotsky was out, but Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (right, he was just “born into a Jewish family” in Ukraine) remained, became the father in law of Stalin, organized the “Holodomor”, demolished churches and executed priests, finally organizing the poisoning of Stalin when he turned “antisemite” etc, etc, until he was quietly retired from the Presidium and the Central Committee, becoming a “devoted grandfather” until he passed away quietly in 1991 and buried with honors. Evocative name, BTW.
@WizOz,
No. Not every Bolshevik was a Jew. In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin.
And mind you the Jews were NOT the majority, therefore 38.5 % is a big number..
GENOCIDE anyone?
“And us Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 MILLION people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf”
—— Article from Jewish newspaper Ynet.
Article : Stalin’s Jews
Author: Sever Plocker ( Jew)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Btw…and let us not forget the new Bolsheviks— the Israeli Bolsheviks.
Carmel by the Sea
Because Russia is not economically strong enough
Hello Saker,
Thank you very much for this article.
It really helped me clear many doubts from my mind.
Praise be to Allah the Most High that I read this article.
Regards,
Mujjammil
Excuse me, Saker. In your bold paragraph I’m sure you mean Atlantic Integrationists, not Atlantic Sovereignists.
A very relevant topic, and one which has troubled me greatly– this business of the banking sector and money creation.
Correct. I wrote that late yesterday.
corrected!
Just. Excellent.
Contrast Saker’s mature discussion of Jewish influence to absolutely anything you’ve ever read in Zionist media.
Realistically, Russia needs righteous Jews to defeat virulent AngloZionist supremacists.
It is important we learn to identify exactly who is responsible for the present disorder.
We are the Jews and the Jews are us. They are an aspect of our collective being.
Nazism, forever in concert with Zionism, fails to achieve this vital insight and therefore always burns itself out.
Even the Chinese have their own Jew-like people, known as Hakka. They have a similar history: as migrants and business people; disproportionately wealthy and influential; but they are not seen as seperate from the Chinese people as a whole. Seperateness and pseudo-ethnicity are hyper destructive Western concepts and must be abandoned (read Gilad Atzmon or Shlomo Sand).
Even after Russia’s turbulent history vis a vis ‘the Jews,’ the Eastern perception remains largely intact. This was my recurring thought while reading translated excerpts of Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years. No wonder this Great Russian Soul must be censored in the West.
This is also why Russianess remains strictly verbotten in the AngloZIonist Reichs-press. It is profoundly destabilizing to AZ elites, exposing them as a cancerous branch of the (anti) human evolutionary tree.
Israel is doomed. Those with the means are leaving in droves (morphing into more guilty/determined Zionists) while others send their children abroad or cling nervously to alternative passports.
Those who remain must know Russia is their last best hope for redemption.
Jewish Impending Pogrom Radar (JIPR) is now fully activated. Let’s remind all Jews there is an alternative to marching themselves, their brethren and the rest of us to death camps. Jews are both welcome and needed in the fight against Molek worshippers — I bet half the members of this community already know.
“….The Russian culture having always been multi-national and multi-ethnic does not really separate people by their ethnicity but judges them much more readily by their actions and ideas….”
It seems to me that this statement toward the end of the article above can not represent a country that would cooperate, if indeed this is the case, with the racist terrorist apartheid state of Israel, whether Israeli’s call themselves Jews or just simply the fascist murdering thieves that they actually are.
It seems to me that you are not looking at the problem or the solution. This problem, whatever the elite and people call themselves, is exactly that of Saudi, Turkey, Gulf Emirates, or any of the kibbutz-neo-‘International community’. Surely cooperation of any sort means that you are they and therefore whatever you are trying to achieve in Syria and elsewhere might not end well.
Morality ethics justice peace and the high ground are everything. Isn’t calling yourselves this or that in conflict with real change, so nothing changes…..But then I’m far away and don’t understand.
I totally agree with you. This article doesn’t add to any rational solutions, instead I fear for Syria even more.
“So those Americans who now complain that Putin “does not have the courage” to take on Israel should first ask themselves how it is that Israel seems to have transformed the USA and Europe in a voiceless Zionist protectorate and what they are doing to liberate themselves from that yoke!”
Saker no more to add right on target!
Thanks, I look forward to reading your book when it arrives.
Dear Saker you are so right in expressing that this “… is an immensely complicated topic and those who like simple, canned, “explanations” should stop reading right now. ” Your article is wide encompassing and expansive in subject and attention.
You state many facts that no one wants to publicly state about what kind of Jewish Russians stayed in Russia ( Patriot Russians first and foremost ) and what kind of people were some of the Jews and “Jews” who left for “Israel” and why handling “Israel” and the Russian oligarchs and their agents and allies is a complicated matter that requires incredible skill and expertise to handle for the sake of Russia wellbeing and future.
In connection with Syria and the relationship Russia has with Israel… I have witnessed the most bizarre accusations against Russia by what I can only call a Syrian 5th columnist,his offsider and a small but vocal party. If they truly understood the conditions Putin deals with merely at the internal level then they should hang their heads in shame!
How can one attempt to simplify into black and white Russia’s highly complex history and her all- encompassing diplomatic and international relations as well as how that intersects with Russia’s diverse population that spans from the Pacific coast to the Baltic Sea and the Black and Caspian Seas ?
In the case of Syria, all I can say is that thank God President Putin had got enough ” ducks in a row” at this time when Syria needed her friend.
All in all, after reading this piece and far too quickly, may I say, I hold Putin in even greater awe than previously. His challenges are something to be discussed in future history books ( honest accounts ) as something absolutely and staggeringly legendary !
By the way, unlike The Saker, I think I am comfortable with the Russian backing of the Egyptian military’s operations against the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
“..comfortable with the Russian backing of the Egyptian military’s operations against the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt”:
Same here: I don’t know all the details, but Egypt was lucky that the Muslim Brotherhood were removed from the government. Otherwise Tunisia and Algeria (and perhaps Sudan as well) would have gone the way of Libya, and Syria could not have resisted long enough to be rescued.
Great article. Thanks for filling in the blanks. I had doubts about Putin, but this makes me understand what he has to deal with much more. I can now see all the difficulties he has to deal with.
A couple things though….
1) While this does make me feel a lot better about Putin, it makes me wonder about Russian people. Why are Russians so forgiving towards the Jews when the Jews took such an active role in butchering so many Christian Russians? You say this is because Russians don’t see ethnicity, and that Russians see the individual for their actions. To this I have to laugh. That is pure fantasy right there.
Russians are known to think poorly of the Chinese, and to think of them as sneaky people. And this is towards a crucial ally that is not trying to bring down Russia. Why is there no negative connotation towards Jews then? I don’t buy your Russian fable for a second. To me Russians don’t say anything bad about the Jews because they are either very ignorant of their own history or they are too afraid to speak about it. Neither of those really make me optimistic for the Russian people.
2) What would happen if something happens to Putin? Would Russia just fall back into Zionist control? Is the fate of Russia like old European countries that were led by Kings, where a good King would lead a country to great glory but once he died the country would just revert to the mean? I mean if Zionists are so powerfull in Russia, and have de facto control over the economy, and as you stated pro Anglo Zionist Russia had 50% of the power, what is the end game for Russia if something were to happen to him? Is Putinism something that can go on after Putin is finished?
Thanks for the great write up.
” they are too afraid to speak about it.”
They same can be said about Germans, Americans (having just fought a disastrous war in Iraq partly for Israel, see eg. Carl Bernstein). Zionist lobbies have tremendous power, closely knit as they are.
Jews are culturally closer to Russians than Chinese. Both Jewish and Russian cultures absorbed lots of influences from both Europe and the Islamic world. Both of them tend to be straightforward and honest in personality (perhaps even “blatant”). There is a more-or-less intuitive everyday understanding between them of what makes the other tick, even when they’re on opposite sides.
So, person-to-person relations aren’t too hard.
On the other hand, Chinese people are more distant culturally for most Russians, and harder to understand. That’s why they “think of them as sneaky people”. Actually, Putin is acting with much more Chinese-style restraint and careful language than is usual for a Russian leader, and the Russians seem to like that fine – but even so, he’s not nearly so restrained, diplomatic and “behind-the-scenes” as the Chinese leadership is. I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is acting that way partly to put his Chinese allies at ease, and is getting occasional behind-the-scenes tips from Beijing. It’s obviously working, as Putin is about as popular in China as he is in Russia…
The point being that Russians are not some liberal entity that is post racial. They stereotype other people’s as much as anyone else. BUT Russians would never think to stereotype Jews. The Saker seems to think this is because of some evolved morality, but I think it is more Russians are too afraid to speak out because the Jews are powerfull in Russia or they are ignorant too the role Jews play in Russia.
This is reflected in your own post. Jews tend to be strait forward and honest? Lol give me a break.
Are you kidding? Russians stereotype Jews all the time. The stereotypical Jew is a frequent figure in Russian anecdotes (as is the stereotypical American, German, etc.).
Maybe “honest” isn’t quite right, but there’s something there. It’s even reflected in the way Jewish oligarchs act. I mean, look at Kolomoyskiy speaking to this RFL/RE journalist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1Ck1QaxbQ
He’s lying through his teeth about why he’s there (“Russian saboteurs”, sure! More like protecting his control over a state asset), but he’s being so damn obvious and “honest” about exactly what he (Kolomoyskiy) is (a billionaire Jewish mobster), wouldn’t you say? He’s just fine with looking like a ridiculous stereotype.
Any Chinese billionaire, on the other hand, would probably be horrified to be caught acting like that in public.
On the other hand, I’ve heard that Chinese can respect Jews because they’re both tribal people. Both tend to congregate among others of their own culture, while Russians aren’t as clique-ish (hence why Chinese and Jewish immigrants tend to do a better job of preserving their own language/cuilture than Russians).
The Chinese were just an example. You could easily substitute any other people’s, be they Turks, blacks, etc etc.
The point remains. Russians will see other people’s normally, without a filter. With Jews Russians are conditioned to hold back for the reasons mentioned above. This is why I have doubts Russia will ever amount to anything long term. Because now Russia has Putin, but when Putin goes Russia could just as easily fall into Zionist hands.
So good leadership matters, but ultimately it’s the public and how accurately they view the world that makes the difference. Russians are due to repeat the same patterns they have been slave to in the past.
As the war in Syria is seen as a war against Turkey’s role stimulating the Uyghurs inside and outside of Xinjiang, China, the Chinese will appreciate the resolute actions of Putin and the RF military.
China is a naive 21st century nation when it comes to military as an arm of diplomacy and geopolitical actions. They think of military only as a means to defend their nation from invaders and as a weight against internal rebellion.
Russia is showing them the necessity of striking at distance whatever the threat—terrorism or hegemonic proxy wars.
They are studying war under Putin and Shoigu.
@They think of military only as a means to defend their nation from invaders and as a weight against internal rebellion.
Russians do exactly the same.
Re: defensive military only. The Russians took Paris after Napoleon invaded Russia. They didn’t do that by email or cruise missle. I suggest that what we have been seeing are varying Russian responses in particular historic contexts.
Saker makes a very important point about current Russian military/economic weakness: as in Stolypin (and Witte’s?) era, Russia has an opportunity to strengthen itself, but needs 3-5 more years of steady progress to ensure the foundation for its sovereignty. Russia’s enemies’ greatest weakness is economic. This appears to be the time for Russia’s leaders to be opportunistic and to practice realpolitik (the latter being the challenge most of us couldn’t handle as noted by Saker). The internal opposition to Putin’s version of nationalism makes this task all the more difficult.
Re: “The Atlantic Sovereignists are still in full control of the Russian financial and banking sector, …”???
Eh? Looks like a mistake/typo. One or the other or is it a new term/phrase?
yes, my bad.
I corrected that.
How utterly typical of Israel and the bloodthirsty psychology that animates it. Cold-blooded murder (one of hundreds) of a resistance leader, and a dozen total innocents slaughtered into the bargain. But if you know your Talmud and the ethos that underpins it, all those killings are mitzvot, or religiously sanctioned ‘good deeds’. And it could be Americans, Norwegians or Bantu just as easily, if the ‘aristocrats of humanity’ so decide.
Fantastic article. TheSaker is back.
200 Years Together: An unauthorised samizdat English translation of Alexandre Isayevich Solzhenitsyn’s monumental work on the history of Russia’s relationship with its dramatically fluctuating Jewish population.
Most of its pre-February 1917 chapters are missing but it is otherwise complete. It’s content is deeply subversive of the ‘official western narrative’ of Judaism in the 20th century. That fact, together with Solzhenitsyn’s towering reputation in the West, explains why it has never found a Western English publisher (though surprisingly it is available in both German and French editions). It should be mandatory reading for those who seek to separate Zionism from Judaism as though the former were merely an unfortunate abberation.
“The Jewish Question” has NEVER gone away. Since the end of WWII with its ‘victor’s histories’ (and by that I emphatically include that of the USSR and Russia) It has merely been very effectively supressed.
In 2,000 year historical terms, Judaic power is now a mere whisker away from its single-minded goal, whilst discussion of it in the MSM (Russian included) – and even much of the ‘respectable’ alt-media – remains strictly verboden. Per Voltaire (I think), ‘to understand who rules over you, simply allow yourself to recognise and acknowledge exactly who and what you are not allowed to criticise’.
IMHO, This article is among the best and most succinct introductions to the true nature of that power
Dear Saker,
Thanks for posting a logical, and comprehensive article on Russia’s stand with Israel, or rather the Zionist strangehold on Russia. It is the very topic most of us anti-Zionists are very interested to read about hence your article being the first of its kind on the blog-spehere, made an impact to me.
Even though you had good points, you had also failed to provide further research and facts towards this articles. In my saying so, I have two points to point out :
1) BRICS Alliance. Putin along with the other BRICS countries are retaliating against Big Brother by creating this alliance. You should have provided extensive information on the formation of this alliance and its significance to the future of Greater Russia.
2) Russia Aiding Palestine. Would you care to elaborate on this article below that was published recently by Sputniknews : http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151202/1031110757/russia-palestine-aid.html
Along with many other statements made by Putin on aiding Palestine as an independant state. Even though Satanyahu paid a recent visit, there are various articles online regarding the aid Russia has given to Palestine, even via Syria. This is critical information that you did not mention and it proves to be of so much importance. I believe you in the sense that Putin has his hand tied behind one back but I also believe that he is not weak and by the way he speaks, he has analytically strategized his position to liberate the oppressed. I am sure Putin is aware of the grasp by the Zionists and is doing everything in his power to tackle that systemetically and periodically. I hope to read articles with further analytical insight.
Also, your work as a Lightworker/Truther will always be significant in our evolution towards the future. On the side note for all the rest of the community of Truthers, perhaps you would like to look further into the works of Neil Keenan (recently elected M1) and know that the Elders of the Allied Forces(Dragon Family) finally have control of the Global Collateral Accounts.. thats Great News for the future of Mankind.
Keep up the good work and may you always be guided and blessed by the Light and Force.
Peace be upon you.
Star Sapphire
As for Hezbollah, it is not like they need Russia’s protection. Symbolic as they may be, the murders of Imad Mugniyeh or Samir Kuntar will in no way weaken the Resistance.
The little bit I have read about Kuntar, he got captured while trying to take hostages when he was 17 and was in jail for 30 years.. For that he was famous as a resistance fighter.. Being a druid and a Lebanese, the Hezbollah considered him important. So he is not a great figure other than as a symbol. He used his name to recruit other druids in the Israeli occupied Golan heights into organize and demand their rights, especially for the protection of druids in Syria. He did not have a protection detail and lived openly.. Israel had a kill warrant on him like anyone who stands up and defies their will and what they stand for. He really could not hurt Israel militarily, but what he represents, organized demands from a society for their rights was a great danger.. Now one of the guys who was killed with him was a commander of a PLF and NDF unit who actually were fighting IS and other terrorists and was far more of a threat. They were not Hezbollah either.. None of these people were Hezbollah other than honorary members.. Some were Syrians and others Lebanese and Palestinians.. Nutyahoo being the insane lunatic he is to keep his popularity took this huge risk to piss off the Russians to show everyone he is someone to be reckoned with. A political move not military… Assassination of those who could be a thorn on your side and demand concussions which the world would see as reasonable. The US would have taken this as getting rid of an opposition politician who might make unreasonable demands.. yada yada yada.. and pasting his picture as larger than life as some kind of this military genius who was a clear and present danger in that sense is nothing of the sort.
Druze in #Sweida commemorate Samir Kuntar & Farhan She’lan #Hezbollah #Syria
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/679607999711715328
Hezbollah media release exclusive footage of the now deceased Samir Kuntar https://t.co/lF1BncqbNY
IS loses their heads over women.. Guess keeping girls as sex slaves and raping them and stuff are safe as young girls are not a threat.. But woman hear them roar and they piss in their lungi’s… So a real terrorist is one who is afraid of woman power… and no need to shower or shave.. No wonder the are afraid of women..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3370347/Ten-ISIS-militants-beheaded-treason-fleeing-Kurdish-fighters-Iraq.html
SAA Republican Guard Female unit training in #Damascus to scare away the bogey men of IS.. But the teddy bear on the pillows? I can already see IS squirm.. These women seem to get far more training than the conscripts who cant even hold a gun properly sent to the front lines.
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/679591259883716608
Some traitorous Syria who was supposedly a PM of Syria now wants into the political structure…
https://twitter.com/OnatMansur/status/679431682605346817
Another SU34 in syria..
And a clear view of the lone Su-34 in blue camo – “03 Red” and – Su-34 “24 Red”:
https://twitter.com/pfc_joker/status/679341447691296768
“The truth is that Putin has been forced to compromise many, many times. Here are just a few examples:”
Framing, within which are subsumed assumptions, is a significant part of perception.
Subsumed with “Putin” is the notion of sole and/or primary agency.
Subsumed within notions of compromise is that a preferred and/or predetermined course was outlined in detail beforehand that required modification.
This suggest a linear planning model as often used by the opponents, including Gosplan, with notions of categorical linearly sequential imperatives and contingencies.
The transition from the Soviet Union to Russia was and is affected and facilitated by many, including the opponents.
This trajectory was encouraged and informed by some, including those who understood from the 1970’s onward that the Soviet Union was not sustainable and that lateral strategies were/are required for transcendence rather than amelioration/reform, and that lateral strategies could not give rise to outcomes outlined in detail beforehand.
As a consequence of various dispositions, mutiplier techniques were required including resort to aikido and useful foolery facilitated through the hubris of opponents, and understanding that none is so vulnerable as he who thinks he has won – realisation by some of their vulnerability, such as in 1994, often giving rise to “doubling down” as a kind of Pavolvian salve.
“He was a compromise candidate between two radically opposed parties “
WYSIWYGism is not generally a useful aid in understanding.
It was the case that some of the opponents thought that Mr. Putin was a compromise candidate, Mr. Berezhovsky also thinking that he was the kingmaker and/or Mr. Putin’s godfather.
It it held by some that the “compromise” was aided by conditioning the reputation of Mr. Luzhkov.
However perhaps a more instructive question would be “Why did they think that way?”
“it took him years to first get rid of most of the the Russian (Jewish) oligarchs and then “
The missing questions in this include but are not restricted to –
“How were some of the oligarchs neutred/removed?”
and
“What was the “protege” Mr. Abramovich’s role in helping the export of the “master” Mr. Berezhovsky?”
“This is an immensely complicated topic “
Evaluation is a function of perception and hence “immensely” is generally a subjective projection as can on ocassions be “complicated”.
Subjective projections such as unexpected consequences also have their uses in deflecting surprises and facilitating doubling down.
Framing, within which are subsumed assumptions, is a significant part of perception.
Perhaps understanding of Israeli/Russian/Soviet relations may be aided by dispensing with framing such as “AngloZionists “ and “their 5th column in Russia “.
“modern Russia today will not follow the same paradigm “
Perhaps modern Russia will not follow any paradigm and some, including some in Russia and formerly in the Soviet Union, have not been following any paradigm for some time.
Some are not playing chess as Mr. Kasparov and others will likely attest.
Understanding is aided by framing outside of superficially ‘objective’ parameters.
So domo arigato but AngloZionist is here to stay, Mr. Roboto.
“domo arigato”
Why resort to Japanese on an English language blog?
Off topic comment removed … mod-hs
I want to start with a technical question: does the S-300 or S-400 protects Damascus from incoming missiles or just from incoming planes ?
If the Russians can see incoming missiles above Damascus, how do they know if the target is not president Assad’s house ? Even if he lives underground, a tactical bunker buster missile can be used.
So, is it possible for Israel to kill president Assad in a similar way they killed Samir Kuntar ? Maybe during some public event about which the Israelis can find out in advance. Even if they kill an entire mosque or stadium packed with people just to get Assad, they won’t give a sh…te. And the world would watch in fear and do nothing.
Do we think they will not do it when the time is ripe, in order to obliterate the entire gains made by Russia in Syria and make Putin look like a complete idiot ?
When you allow snakes to enter and crawl all around your house, don’t be surprised if suddenly they do what’s natural for them to do. Russia, beware again with whom you make compromises, there have to be some limits.
How do you think Hezbollah feels now about their own security and arrangements with Russia, after such a blatant terrorist act in which 8 more innocents were killed ? And if Kuntar already served time in prison, why turn a blind eye to such a criminal action by Israel ? Is there absolutely no law on this earth for them ?
What about the Iranians, don’t you feel that general Soleimani might feel his turn of being thrown under the bus (killed) will come ? Based on the same “realpolitik” thinking that certain circles of power in Russia are allowing. If I was him, I’ll already start fearing critical information about my location with Russia (knowing now for a fact that Putin still has to give some free hand and information to Jewish circles). Do you think that Israel will give a dead rat of not offending Putin, if they manage to steal some critical information about Iranian forces through Russian circles ? By the way, how much longer do we think Putin can live and what will happen after that ?
The so called “false ideology” or communism was nothing more than a cover up for Judaic view about the world (Jews will own the world in which goyims will be the slaves). How is that possible under communism, you may ask, if there is no private property ? Well, the Jews like rabi Moses Hess from Odessa (the mentor of Karl Mordecai Levi known as Karl Marx) explained that long time ago in a letter from 19th century to his pupil from Germany: although all the properties of a country will “be own in common” and in the hands of the state, someone needs to administer them; and those positions of administration will be held by Jews. This kind of stuff is really what was hidden in the “Communism Manifesto”. The uneducated workers of those times had no idea who’s games they are played for.
Why aspects of such information, like what was presented in this article, is not backed up officially by Russian government ? Why do they think they can achieved by playing “footsie” or pussyfooting with a sect that already stabbed the orthodox nation twice and committed horrendous genocides ? Didn’t they learned from the experience of the governments of 1900-1917, who tried to make a similar compromise that eventually you will be exterminated ? Just go and read again how little by little the entire Russian ruling class was infiltrated, corrupted and then killed before the bolsheviks took power through freemasonry. Look for Juri Lina’s books or movies. One is called “In the shadow of Hermes” and you can still get it on youtube. Being aware and taking preventive measures against Jewish conspiracies is not Jewish hatred as they want us to feel, but is pure sanity and common sense. Better be upfront and with the cards on the table in this game. Or be ready to apply no morals and ethics, otherwise. Or else, do like the tsar Nikolay Romanov: wait in a state of bewilderment and lack of understanding until it’s your turn to be slaughtered. Better act like a real man and warrior than trying to achieve compromises. This Judaic sect has trained for centuries in the art of backstabbing and dealing in muddy waters. You can’t win if you play by their rules. Read about the rules applied in the Byzantine Empire, that’s the only way to deal: keep them at bay.
Maybe Putin knows what he is doing and what he is up to, but his latest allies might start to doubt or not understand his game. Why was necessary to perform this extrajudicial killing right now, with such a method and in the open ? It could have been done in many other ways and without killing 8 more innocent people while asleep.
Did Putin ever asked these questions to Nettanyahu or to the other buddies surrounding Medvedev ?
Maybe I can give a potential answer: it was done with purpose to undermine the Russian-Shiite alliance at a critical moment. And Putin has yet to figure that out, before it’s too late.
I want to start with a technical question: does the S-300 or S-400 protects Damascus from incoming missiles or just from incoming planes ?
Both. S-400s can shoot down individual missiles too.
Those a very legitimate questions for Mr.Putin and he have deal with themand answer them very fast if he want keep alliance together, Dr. Assad ,HZB, IRAN,IRAQ…..
There is an unspoken assumption here, I think (or maybe I’ve been careless in reading the article). For the sake of argument, let’s say the governments pre-War and post-Soviet were chock-full of people Jewish by origin. There would have to be a conspiracy specifically Jewish in some way for this to be of any significance. Pre-War that looks implausible (and what would such a specifically Jewish conspiracy be for?). And Stalin’s policy post-War was not materially different from Stalin’s policy pre-War (perhaps more anti-Semitic). Post-Soviet, the conspiracy, or policy, furthered the interests of the neoliberal American Empire, either for personal gain or in the belief that it was the only way for Russia to make the transition from the Soviet command economy. The government then would have to be full of neoliberals – which is very much distinct from full of Jews. There seems to be a careless use of “Jewish” to explain everything, which is a pseudo-explanation at best that discourages a serious effort at detailed historical analysis – anything you disapprove of – “it was the Jews”.
“There seems to be a careless use of “Jewish” to explain everything, which is a pseudo-explanation at best that discourages a serious effort at detailed historical analysis – anything you disapprove of – “it was the Jews”.
To paraphrase Mr. Marx “Philosophers have merely described the world, the purpose is to change it”.
If so attribution and access are likely prejudicial to achievement of purpose, so neither any scribe nor collection of scribes, nor any document nor collection of documents, will likely be sufficient to facilitate a serious effort at detailed historical analysis.
However the opponents appear to consistently ignore these cautions rendering them vulnerable.
Although not a detailed historical analysis, nor sufficient to facilitate one, perhaps the link below to some methods and perceptions may add further detail to vulnerabilities.
http://thesaker.is/putin-and-israel-a-complex-and-multi-layered-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-190333
You have illustrated a specific example of one of the opponents techniques, namely assuaging/finessing/removing doubt by assertion and/or belief, although you may appear overly diplomatic and/or subject to a certain framing by your use of “careless”.
Perhaps from the short examples in the link you will see the continued utility of this practice.
But Ewan, the use of the word ‘Jew’ or ‘Jewish’ is rather unavoidable when the person in question is, in fact, a Jew. Your distinction between ‘Jew’ and ‘neo-liberal’ doesn’t bear much examination either, as the leading neo-liberals come from the Chicago School of Milton Friedman and are, indeed, disproportionately, Jewish. The fact that the ‘shock therapy’ was inflicted by Jeffrey Sachs et al, and, somehow, the looting of the Soviet patrimony ended with almost all the greatest crooks being Jews, is rather undeniable, too. If we cannot even consider irrefutable facts because they relate to Jews, something rather peculiar is going on.
So tell me the nature of the conspiracy embracing Bolshevism and gangster capitalism that makes the alleged facts you mention relevant.
@nature of the conspiracy embracing Bolshevism and gangster capitalism
Looting Russia with impunity.
This is totally wrong: “Capitalism” brought in looting of Russia’s national assets; “Communism” (the Bolsheviks – and that has nothing to do with whether or not they were Jews – in your statement) created a pool of all national assets the dividends of which were used for the benefit of all the nation.
If you need a longer explanation some chapters of a book of mine as well as several consequential articles can be read at https://independent.academia.edu/IvanDaraktchiev.
There you go, Ewan, giving the game away. Irrefutable facts become ‘alleged facts’, a Zionazi tactic so shop-worn as to be almost diaphonous. There’s no ‘conspiracy’ in relation to gangster capitalism, in Russia or in the West, and the huge over-representation of Jews amongst ‘gangster capitalists’. There are simply facts and the only real question must be, why is it so, and what is the rational and humane thing to do about it, for the good of all, Jew and Gentile alike.
What would suggest a “conspiracy” is the absolute denial that the Jews had any responsibility in the appalling massacres of non-Jewish inhabitants of USSR and in the assault against the Russian Church.
Maidan Two Years Later: 12/8/15Hr2: Stephen F. Cohen. Prof Emeritus, Russian Studies, Princeton
https://audioboom.com/boos/3987440-maidan-two-years-later-12-8-15hr2-stephen-f-cohen-prof-emeritus-russian-studies-princeton-eastwestaccord-com
WHY is this not news?
Greek parliament approves establishment of Palestinian State in presence of Palestinian Pres Abbas. Palestine”
Greek parliament votes to recognize #Palestine http://dw.com/p/1HRhM
Because it is a just a non-binding resolution.
More hot air from Syriza.
The Greeks do military training with the ‘IDF’. This is more disinformation from the treacherous Tsipras, a prize, indeed world-class, dissembler and hypocrite. And Abbas is a Quisling, which we know simply because the Israelis haven’t murdered him.
While in Jerusalem for a meeting with Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, Tsipras took an opportunity to sign the President’s guestbook, writing, “ With great honor to be in your historic capital and to meet your excellencies.”
How come we don’t know the history of Tspiras, his family, his finance minister, everything about him and his cahoots is blurred. He fooled us all
“He fooled us all”
No, Tsipras only fooled his electorate. He knew the grip of Euro-chauvinism over a substantial part of the Greek population. The entire stunt known as Syriza, like Spain’s Podemos, was based on the somewhat disputable notion that the Eurocrats would happily trade austerity for the flattery of a simple fraudster. Tsipras himself of course never believed they would, but he miscalculated badly since he had no “plan B” in case he would be able to convince the gullible electorate otherwise. Which he was.
Bottom line: We don’t need to know much more about Tsipras than the simple fact that he posed as a “radical” minded Left Reformist Social Democrat. Social Democracy has been a tool of Western imperialism for over a century.
One must remember that Syriza was recognized as “The Trojan Horse” even before it was elected! They did not fool the electorate. The electorate fooled itself. Syriza’s task was not to find a solution for the economic woes of Greece, but to align even further Greece with EU, remove all traces of Orthodoxy and sever it from any possible alliance with Russia. They are actually anti-Greek.
I confess I posted my previous comment without having fully read this article. Mt applogies. Had I done so, I would have praised the depth of its analysis. Whilst Saker and I may differ somewhat on the subtleties of the Zionism/Judaism connundrum, that in no way diminishes my admiration for the depth of his undertanding of Russian-Western-Judaic history.
If I have a beef it concerns his (and the near-unanimous Western-Russian) belief in Adolf Hitler and the 1933-45 National-Socialist governmant of Germany, as the gold-standard of pure political evil. The very fact that ALL the ‘victors’ of WWII continue to rely on and incessantly invoke it as a ‘gotcha’, should surely be enough to call it into some question among genuine truth-seekers?
IMHO, whilst the behaviour of the freaks and their para-militaries in Ukraine warrants unqualified condemnation, constant use of the term ‘NAZI’ is very unhelpful to a proper, nuanced understanding of the historical context of what is going on here. NAZI Germany is constantly accused of single-minded hatred of, and intent to ‘destroy Russia'; whereas the destruction of Judaic Bolshevism as – at the very least – a contributing factor in German behaviour, is not only ignored but ‘beyond the Pale’ -ahem- of polite discourse anywhere.
If I have a beef it concerns his (and the near-unanimous Western-Russian) belief in Adolf Hitler and the 1933-45 National-Socialist governmant of Germany, as the gold-standard of pure political evil.
Well, then let me go on the record by saying I do not hold any such beliefs. I consider that all the powers involved in WWII were roughly equally evil and all were driven by absolutely evil ideologies and all were willing to murder millions to achieve their goals.
Cheers!
The Saker
Putin should be called Mr. Softie..
Since 2000, the forgiven more than $ 140 billion
1. Cuba – $ 31.7 billion
According to experts, this debt back, we would still never received. And planted the “carrot” and strengthened the position of the US backyard.
2. Iraq – $ 21.5 billion
The debt written off twice – $ 9.5 billion (from $ 10.5) in 2004 and $ 12 billion (from $ 12.9) in 2008. The second time, it was the new debt, credit, recruited after a previous debt forgiveness in 2004.
3. African country – more than $ 20 billion
Decommissioned “wholesale” in the period after 2008 in order “fraternal assistance”.
4. Mongolia – $ 11.1 billion
Decommissioned in 2003. The remaining $ 300 million of debt, Mongolia, however, immediately returned.
5. Afghanistan – $ 11 billion
Debts for deliveries of Soviet military equipment written off since 2006.
6. North Korea – $ 10 billion
One of the most recent “gifts” after 2012. Not all write off $ 1 billion in debt for North Korea still remained.
7. Syria – $ 9.8 billion
Decommissioned in 2005 (from $ 13.4 billion in debt). Instead, a number of agreements in construction, oil and gas.
8. Vietnam – $ 9.53 billion
The first of the debt “forgiveness” to foreign countries already in the “Putin” time – in 2000, total debt of Vietnam at that time was $ 11.03 billion, the balance must be paid by 2022. However, not directly, but through investments in joint projects with Russia in the territory of Vietnam.
9. Ethiopia – about $ 6 billion
In 2001, to write off $ 4.8 billion from $ 6 billion of debt in four years – another $ 1.1 billion, or almost everything.
10. Algeria – $ 4.7 billion
Write-off occurred in 2006 – 2007 years. Instead, the country has pledged to buy our manufactured goods to this amount or more.
In recent years – in 2012-2014 – in addition to North Korea and Cuba, it was written off the debt of Kyrgyzstan for $ 599 million (after that country zasobiralas join the Customs Union) and now $ 865 million to Uzbekistan.
Overall, since 2000, Russia forgave their partners more than $ 140 billion.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.alt.kp.ru/daily/26319.4/3198164/&usg=ALkJrhgllZ_EUEtCT_l4A9Ha7rGTyW1uuw
While I applaud the write-offs for the poor countries. I do want to say it was politically a smart-move to make. Most of the debts were Soviet era debts. So a bit “iffy” in that there is no USSR now. And the chances of them actually getting the money back from those countries was something along the lines of “a snowballs chance in hell”. And lastly,it was great PR. It contrasted with the greed and averse of Western governments and banks in their loans to poor nations. And made those countries peoples have a better view of Russia.
You forget, Russia being the successor state to the USSR took on all their obligations.. Russia took on the debt of the USSR hence debt owed to the USSR was also taken over by Russia.. So here Russia paid of a lot more than than 140bil.. But got nothing in return.. Russia is also responsible for all treaties and other obligations of the USSR. This was where the split from Ukraine happened where Ukraine wanted to be the successor state but refused to accept any obligations of the USSR. Which would all have fallen on Russia. And Ukraine would have gotten the nuclear codes.. The US being owed so much with Europe did not go along with that knowing they wont get any of their money back so they supported Russia.. In act most of the aid given to Russia was to pay back this debt.. I think by 2005 Russia paid off all the debt accumulated by the USSR.
I didn’t forget that. My point was /is that it was a smart ,good PR move. The money from those countries would never have been retrieved anyway. So why not get some goodwill by renouncing worthless paper. Its like when people in the US give to charity. True,many, maybe most, maybe all, want to help the charity and so they donate. But it is also “tax deductible”,and I don’t doubt that most of those people deduct that on their tax returns. I’ve donated my time at a charity a few times (not tax deductible BTW),and almost no one that donated goods didn’t get a receipt for taxes from us.
Charity Iranian style… They dont ask for a receipt… But in the US you get beat up by the cops for doing this.
Iranians make “Walls of Kindness” where people put their extra stuff and those in need take whatever they need!
https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/678927815039983616
The Saker writes “…and I am a little quasi-irrelevant blogger”.
Well, you are about the most interesting and well informed person I have ever read, and your analysis is just so excellent, I am completely in awe.
I have had an amazing education from reading your blog.
Thank you so much.
Tony
Putin has made some kind of deal with Israel. The details are obviously not public. However, the actions of Israel show the way they intend to use the deal.
Some time ago after the Su-24 shootdown, Israel claimed a Russian aircraft passed through Israel controlled airspace. A naive reader would think that meant Israel itself, however it is likely the Israelis meand airspace in the Golan. Russia made no attempt to deny or contradict israel’s statement. Russia has therefore agreed that Golan airspace is Israel controlled and by extension Israel territory.
It appears that Russia has stood silent over Israel’s extra judicial murder of Kuntar and the others in Damascus. This may be because Kuntar had conveniently been placed on a terrorist watchlist by US Israel firsters. However, the others murdered were not on that list. So Russia has i) compromised its stance on legal means over violence and ii) shown that it will not act whenever Israel claims it in its ‘national security’ interest.
This tacit acceptance by Russia will be exploited later on by Israel to claim more of the Golan from its ISIS minders in ‘national security’ interests. Israel will argue that Russia has de facto recognized its claims to the Golan. The US and its stooges will follow with recognition.
Russia has effectively sold out southern Syria to Israel, but for what?
OT but this is a video showing the vile depravity of some Russians(?). People at a polar base regularly left out meet to attract polar bears. After some time, they baited one piece of meat with explosives and left it to be picked up by a polar bear. The explosives went off leaving the bear with some serious injury. All the while, this was being filmed by Russians from the safety of their buildings. The video was then uploaded as entertainment. Jesus fsking christ, how sick can you get.? If the bear was a threat kill it cleanly, don’t maim it for entertainment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzDo-RzBzs
One alternative explanation for Russia’s inactions over Israel.
It is certainly aware that Israel is up to its neck supporting ISIS etc, providing them with a safe wall behind their back, treatment for the injured, etc. It is also making money from the sale of cheap oil looted from Syria by ISIS. Turkey is the first stage in the laundering, aided by an Israeli middleman. The oil is shipped from Ceyhan to Israel for refining, then sold as laundered goods at market prices. Russia may possibly keeping quiet on the basis that by giving Israel enough rope, it may metaphorically hang itself. I am not convinced that this is the case.
However, it is clear that Russia is currently attacking one ISIS-supporter whilst protecting and aiding another ISIS-supporter.
For further complexity, it appears that a Russian air cargo company has taken over an ex-Saudi 747 cargo aircraft that was used to transfer weapons to the tune of 25 million euro from Bulgaria to Syrian rebels. The transfer happened in June 2015. Is this Russian aircraft still involved in supplying ISIS with weapons?
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1640253.html
Russia’s involvement with Israel and ISIS is increasingly murky.
Well written @ Anonymous on December 23, 2015 · at 12:02 pm UTC
Brilliant, Saker, and very timely too. Thanks!
thank you for this text Saker. very good one. i would like to add, from my experience from Yugoslav war ’90, our real war heroes have also “dark side”. so i believe that Hezbo comanders and leaders are not angels also, despite noble cause they fight.
i believe that Hezbo comanders and leaders are not angels also, despite noble cause they fight.
I agree. And Kuntar was the least angelic of them all. But I also agree that Hezbollah’s cause is just. However, I have *immense* respect for Nasrallah himself and I believe that he truly is a highly principled and honorable man. I am a self-confessed “Nasrallah groupie” :-)
If you were talking about the hostage case. In an article on RT it was reported that even Israeli psychiatrists that examined Kuntar in prison denied he was guilty of those killings.They said Israel killed the hostages in the rescue attempt and faked the evidence to show Kuntar and others were guilty. Considering that,and Israels record of similar doings, I wouldn’t doubt it at all.
The only report of the militant is from Israeli press as western sources, the guy was not a military commander.. He was a PR guy recruiting for a political purpose not military. Anyone who knows about the situation says that. He also lived openly.. Kind of like the Iranian nukes and the suitcase or laptops or what not. We really dont know how militant he was since he got caught on his first mission at 17 to take hostages.
Thanks, I needed that analysis…
I have seen multiple complaints about why the mighty Russian S-400 system did not stop the Israeli attack that killed Samir Kuntar? Or at least destroy the attacking Israeli plane after it had fired its missile?
The S-400 system is in Syria for one purpose only; to protect the Russian force so it can finish its mission and win the war. All these Western provocations are intended to stop Russia from doing what it is doing successfully and make it do something else. By themselves they can have little effect on the war, they only intend to escalate the conflict.
The S-400 is not a weapon Russia should use or need in its operations. It is a deterrent against escalation. Like any deterrent it loses it purpose if it used. If you need to use your deterrent, fire nukes or S-400s, then you have already lost! The only scenario where the S-400 would certainly be used in anger would be full-scale NATO attack on the Russian force. If that happens the outcome is uncertain; NATO could win in Syria, the war could spread to other fronts or escalate to WW3. The S-400 is in Syria to stop that from happening.
You are 100% correct on everything you wrote here.
My emotional reaction to the attack is very different: Where is a friend, when you need one?
I have been humming this song by Soviet singer-songwriter Vladimir Vysotsky all evening:
The link is to a video from the 1967 movie “Vertical”, with Vladimir Vysotsky preforming it himself. Высоцкий. “Песня о друге” ( к/ф “Вертикаль”)
Here are the lyrics in English:
It is very selfish thinking, and militarily – wrong.
It’s not about who’s Hezbollah.
The very fact is they’re fighting along Russian side.
If we assumed that Israelis would send commandos instead, I guess we would hear –
Russian Spetzna are the deterrent too, it’s a nonsense.
” The truth is that Putin has been forced to compromise many, many times.”
The more I watch Putin, the more I understand that his mastery of ‘the art of compromise’ is actually one of his most effective ‘ninja weapon’.
Dear Saker,
I thank the day I found your blog. Your writings enrich my understanding, both factual and contextual, of the events unfolding worldwide.
The parts I like most is where you explain apparent contradictions in Russia’s policy under Putin by highlighting the struggle between Atlantic Integrationists and Eurasian Souvereignists. All too often, I’ve read analyses explaining Russia’s apparently pro-Western policies as incoherent and nodding my head.
Like I said, both factually and contextually your writings help me make sense of plans within plans that are unfolding worldwide.
Thank you!
Marco
amazing article!
the problem with the anglozionist integrationists within Russian power structures is that they simply will not accept that the west will never truly ‘integrate’ them. The US will only ever have them as junior ‘partners,’ just look what happened with yeltsin, if they think it couldn’t happen again because of Russian military power and a presently cohesive state they are sadly deluded. Oligarchs aren’t great at history are they? They’re good at greed but their ego and self importance (which after all is what makes them succesful criminals) leaves a blind spot. The west wants Russia ‘in the fold’ but never as equal partners. Never. Russia has to lead from the Eurasian bloc from now on. The west is falling apart anyway and eventually they may integrate from a position of power rather than perceived weakness or willful ignorance. To me it isn’t even a ‘position’ to be adopted by anyone with a sane understanding of western and particularly US history and Putin knows that, even though I believe he still harbours a desire that one day the west will give Russia the respect it deserves. As I say that will have to come through a position of strength if it ever comes.
The relationship between slavs and turko-mongols goes back along way. The inter-relationship of a turko-mongolic elite and the slavic masses is reflected in such people as the Bulgars and the Avars. These Turko-Mongols eventually lost their identity. The Khazars kept theirs by becoming jews. Ive often thought that the Bolshevik revolution was to an extent a reassertion of power of a Turko-Mongolic elite over a Slavic mass thereby replacing the Nordic-Varangian elite. I guess you dont think in these terms.
Hello…Internet Archive, has it in English very recently.
great analysis again.
Interesting analyses but I would like Saker to comment on this:
” Here, one wonders about and one looks forward to the approaching time when Russia has secured the northern Syrian-Turkish border and its military attentions subsequently turn south to the Golan, towards confronting the terrorist occupying army of Al-Nusra, Israel’s current BFFs in the Levant. My money is on Israel selling Al-Nusra down the river so as not to provoke the wrath of a very serious, humorless Russia. And further down the future time-line, one also wonders what the USA would do when the Syrian Arab Army has secured its territory and it begins its legal Golan-liberation war plans; a war that is inevitable, a war that couldn’t possibly take place without complicit Russian approval. Suffice it to say, everything in the Levant hinges on the outcome of the Golan war, including the Palestinian question.”
https://platosguns.com/2015/12/09/line-in-the-sand/#more-16265
My money is on Israel selling Al-Nusra down the river so as not to provoke the wrath of a very serious, humorless Russia.
Daesh, al-Nusra & Co will be sold down the river by the US and Israel as soon as they are found to be useless. Has that call already been made? I don’t see any evidence that it has, but it might in the future.
Thank you for your answer Saker!
But, please… do you think that Golan-liberation war is inevitable, does Russia approve it, and what will be the outcome of it ?
Not going to happen unless we are in a WW3 (or Israel collapses first internally).
Keep in mind that the captured / stolen Syrian Golan Heights provides Israel with roughly 40% of its water supplies, with the better part of its other needs coming from exploitation of aquifers in the West Bank.
Also, Israel announced quite recently that the Golan Heights contained vast quantities of underground natural gas and, likely, oil. They’ve probably been well aware of the wealth of hydrocarbons in that stolen region for some time, now, but chose to make that knowledge public at a time when Syria is under attack and in a state of chaos …
Of the two resources, water and oil, I would wager that, to Israel, water is the most critical, but adding to the equation $billions in profits from hydrocarbons, Israel is extremely unlikely ever to agree to return the Golan Heights to Syria.
Sold down the river, only to be resurrected in some new guise when required.
DNR intelligence: Foreign mercenaries have been deployed to Artemovsk and Mariupol
“In Mariupol arrived a group of Turkish mercenaries in the amount of up to a hundred people. Their main goal – carrying out acts of sabotage and provocation on military and civilian targets in the coastal zone of the DNI and Russia”, – the Ministry of Defense.
Also, according to the agency, arrived in Artemovsk 200 foreign mercenaries with the identification marks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Among them are representatives of English-speaking, and speaking Polish, Slovak and Turkish.
“Exploration DNI also continues to record the movement of military equipment and personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the line of contact. For example, in the area Novoselovka marked the arrival of the four tanks, two MLRS” Grad “, six infantry fighting vehicles, two armored personnel carriers and a hundred personnel”, – the Ministry of Defense .
In addition, according to the ministry, noted the arrival of 14 tanks, 12 self-propelled guns, “Acacia”, 12 rocket systems “Grad”, six infantry fighting vehicles and 120 personnel in the area of human settlements and peace Volnovaha.
http://ria.ru/world/20151223/1347445501.html
khaile_Palo the West considers Dzhemilev and his thugs as the “Real Tatars” while they represent only 5-10% of the tatar population.