by Roddy Keenan for the Saker Blog
As a teacher of history, the topic of Nazi Germany is always one which generates numerous questions from students. How were the Nazis able to convince the public to vote for them? How did they convince the people to go along with their fascist agenda and barbaric policies? How was the Holocaust allowed to take place?
Despite discussing the role of propaganda and censorship, as well as the fear of opposing the Nazi regime, one still finds students often somewhat bemused. Moreover, many invariably argue that nowadays, due to social media, the Internet, and other methods of communication, the evils of Nazism could never succeed in flourishing again.
However, that is about to change. One only has to look at the manner in which the Azov Battalion, a fully-fledged Ukrainian Nazi militia, with significant influence, has been whitewashed in the space of ten weeks. Whereas prior to February 24th 2022, they were recognised as a neo-Nazi battalion, these fascists are now being portrayed as valiant defenders of an oppressed people, fighting bravely against insurmountable odds.
In the past, we have become only too well aware of the role played by the media and big tech in propagandising and manufacturing consent. Whether it’s the mainstream media parroting establishment talking points, Facebook, Twitter and Youtube censoring dissenting views, or Paypal denying media outlets access to their own accounts apparently due to their political stances, Western disinformation full-spectrum dominance appears to be at its zenith.
Yet, the perennial Western purveyors of fake news, such as The New York Times, CNN and the BBC, declare themselves to be gatekeepers of truth, integrity and morality. And this, despite their lies which facilitated the slaughter and deaths of over a million men, women and children, in the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
But still it goes on, right up to the present. From the Ghost of Kiev to Snake Island, the Collective Western media has acted as stenographers for the Western and Ukrainian regimes. The examples are too numerous to mention, but the media coverage of the air strike at a railway station in Kramatorsk provided a striking example of the overt and cynical propaganda role the western media has played throughout this conflict.
The missile strikes that killed over fifty people and injured more than one hundred were initially widely reported, with images on front pages across the Western media. However, within forty-eight hours the story had disappeared and barely received a mention. This was due to an Italian news team identifying one of the missiles as being of the type used by Ukrainian forces. The narrative of Ukrainians killing civilians obviously didn’t fit into the propaganda of the Collective West, and consequently, the dead and injured found instant irrelevance.
Now the Western media has turned its malevolent myth-making to the Nazi Azov battalion in the Ukraine. An overtly Nazi formation, descended from the Fascist Banderites of World War 2, it is now being staunchly defended by the Collective West.
Interestingly, it had been previously accepted that the Azov were a far-right, Nazi militia, and indeed, their presence and influence was widely viewed as a dark force within the Ukraine. It’s fascist rituals and regalia, worship of the fascist Stepan Bandera, and its adherence to Nazi ideology, left nobody in any doubt that these were committed fascists, and they were commonly described as neo-Nazis in numerous Western media outlets.
However, since February 24th there has been a stunning shift.
Now, the fact that the Azov battalion is a Nazi organisation is glossed over. The BBC, a propaganda arm of the British State, ran a nine-minute puff piece, arguing, almost pleading, that the Azov fighters were not fascists, but simply a battalion integrated into the Ukrainian army. Meanwhile, MSNBC interviewed Azov Nazis teaching elderly women how to use weapons, and newspapers from the Financial Times to the New York Times are now portraying the Azov as brave defenders of the Ukraine.
An obvious aim of this shameless media operation is to delegitimise the Russian claims of denazification, by arguing that there is no Nazi problem in the Ukraine. Even on the rare occasion that the media refers to the ideology of the Azov units, and indeed, the presence of other fascist and far-right groups such as C14, Right Sector and Svoboda, it claims they have minimal impact on the politics of the Ukraine, pointing to their weak electoral performances. What they fail to point out, is that the mainstream’ parties are implementing policies that the fascists support. Moreover, the notion that parliamentary representation is a metric of influence is absurd when one looks at the likes of Al Qaeda and Isis.
In fact, a leader of the fascist group C14, Yevhen Karas, described the 2014 Maidan coup as a ‘victory of nationalist ideas’. He went on to assert that without the influence of fascist groups, Maidan would have been nothing but a ‘gay parade’.
But this is now an inconvenient truth for the Collective West. Consequently, Azov and their fellow travellers are no longer Nazis or fascists. Instead, they are merely ‘misunderstood patriots’.
Of course, this is nothing new. When it comes to hypocrisy, the Collective West has it in spades. Whether it’s supporting the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, ISIS and AL Nusra in Syria, or the fascists in Ukraine, the Collective West has shown itself to be devoid of any morality when it comes to serving their own interests.
Now, just as Isis and Al Nusra are ‘moderate rebels’, the fascists of Azov are well-meaning nationalist warriors.
So, according to our so-called liberal democracies, even though there might be bad Nazis, there are also good fascists, whose adherence to Nazism is just an ideological quirk. Obviously, those who are on our side are the good Nazis. And it’s the Collective West that always gets to decide who is who.
But one thing is now evident – the blatant manner in which Nazism has been made palatable due to an unrelenting, systematic propaganda campaign, will answer those questions posed by students regarding how German Nazis were able to attain power in 1933 and to subsequently pursue the policies that they did.
‘Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds’, I was once told many years ago.
The events of the past months have proven just how accurate that old adage is.
Originally from Ireland, Roddy Keenan is a teacher and freelance reporter based in the UK. Roddy specialises in international politics and is the author of US Presidential Elections 1968-2008: a narrative history of the race for the White House’.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the Nazis in Europe were never defeated. And Stalin halted the Red Army in Berlin prematurely. If NATO attacks Russia, then the job will be finally completed.
Especially the unfinished job, in Germany, with the hardcore Russia haters & their brethren in the City of London.
I am pretty much of a similar mind, that the Nazi´s never really went away in Europe and the US, among other places. They just went underground and ran in elite circles.
Operation Paperclip and the Vatican operated rat lines.
I think something similar. That this Special Operation is a continuation of World War II, after a pause of 77 years. With the advantage that we have all taken off our masks, and of understanding the true forces behind Fascism-Nazism..
Dear Roddy Keenan.
As so often before, it takes an educated Irishman (Danny boy) to speak the awful truth to the masses.
Being a Dane, I applaud your courage and honesty. It is a breath of fresh air from the Atlantic, and it confirms that not all of the western population has gone into hive mentality.
The Old adage: ‘Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds’, is more wise than many realizes.
When tyrants create economic hardship for people with a liberal-Socialist viewpoint (Scratch a liberal), they unite for protection.
A Fascist herd mentality is promoted within the herd by leaders operating on behalf of the Tyrants.
Then the leaders drive the herd toward its own destruction (by senseless war) in a stampede off the cliff.
Thereby, previously peaceful Liberal- social democrats, now manipulated into Fascists by induced hardship and propaganda, ends up bleeding during their collective self-destruction.
This is not the first time in human history, that tyrants have driven whole societies into self-destruction.
It has happened time and again during millennial’s.
I guess only a wise Irishman, could have reduced this chain of events into a poetic truth with so few words.
However, by reading the comments on the Saker blog, it confirms that large numbers of people around the globe are realizing that they are being manipulated by a corrupt clique of Fascist tyrants.
Your article raises the hope that there is a large majority in the west, who silently do not accepts the corrupt political leadership, and reject their Fascist stamped into self-destruction.
The next step is for the western population to take action and remove the Fascist clique.
Not true. Europe chooses fascism now as it did in the 1930s. People are not deceived, they willingly choose evil. Go back and read Reich. No one can be forced or manipulated into such destruction. Especially not now after Iraq and “weapons of mass destruction”. Euros need to stop trying to evade their responsibility for the catastrophe unfolding. Fascism will lose, as always, after causing much misery and death as always. And anyone who did not stand against it is fully complicit.
Small blue wrote: Not true. Europe chooses fascism now as it did in the 1930s.
My comment: Yes they do. But why? Or is that question too complicated?
Small blue wrote: People are not deceived, they willingly choose evil.
My Comment: NO. They are deceived, and believed that Russians are evil, so they will fight what they perceive as evil with even more evil.
Small blue wrote: Go back and read the Reich.
My comment: In Denmark we have had plenty of experience with the 1st, 2, 3 and now the 4th Riech (EU).
However you should read about human psychology, or how to control a herd of cows.
Small blue wrote: No one can be forced or manipulated into such destruction.
My comment: yes they can if they are uneducated, afraid and brainwashed by propaganda.
Small blue wrote: Especially not after Iraq and “weapons of mass destruction”.
My comment: They don’t even know the reality about 9/11, Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria and Ukraine. Cause reality was never talked about on Facebook.
Small blue wrote: Europeans need to stop trying to evade their responsibility for the catastrophe unfolding.
My comment: YES, they need to wake up from their brainwashed sleep and take responsibility.
Small blue wrote: Fascism will lose, as always, after causing much misery and death as always.
My comment: YES, because that is the whole purpose of the Tyrants, to Stamped the Herd into suicide.
Small blue wrote: And anyone who did not stand against it is fully complicit.
My comment: YES they are.
Just like the German population has carried the guilt for WWII for 77 years, so will the entire western population be left to carry the guilt for WWIII, while the tyrants evades responsibility and ends up controlling the entire Globe.
PS: that was the goal of the Illuminati back in 1871, and they expected to start 3 world wars to achieve it.
How is it that Pike refers to NAZIs in 1871?
Joe Hill wrote: How is it that Pike refers to NAZIs in 1871?
Albert Pike did not know anything about NAZIsm, because the term was not invented by then.
However the ideology behind NAZIsm is Fascism, which has existed since the Roman Empire.
Fascism is to militarize a cult of Elite citizens against the rest of the populations, by binding the Cult members via corruption and blackmail to work in lockstep. The symbol of fascism is the Roman Ax called the Faces, created by binding many sticks together as a unified handle of the ax blade.
The idea of Fascism became dormant with the fall of the Roman Empire, but was resurrected during the rise of the 1st Reich of the Holy Roman Empire, the 2nd Reich under the German Kaiser, and the 3rd Reich of NAZI Germany.
Even the EU (4th Reich) is built on the idea of Imperial Fascism, by former NAZIs in the aftermath of WWII.
The Fascist Empire is comprised by members of European Royalty, the Vatican, and the many free masonic lodges, acting as the hidden hand of the rulers at the top of the pyramid.
And that is how Albert Pike (A Master Freemason) was informed of the Fascist plans of 3 World wars to enslave the global population into Fascist Tyranny.
A common trend is to re brand know ideologies for the next generation to hide its connection to the evil of the original ideology.
Today NAZIs are called Neo-NAZI.
Conservatives turned Fascist is called Neo Conservatives.
Liberals turned Fascist is called Neo Liberals.
I don’t believe NATO would directly attack Russia. But my theory is this: if they did, China attacks Taiwan. The US and its puppets cannot fight such a two front war. I believe Russia and China have a plan for all contingencies.
“…….will answer those questions posed by students regarding how German Nazis were able to attain power in 1933 and to subsequently pursue the policies that they did”
Ashke……nazi…. concatenate it and you get Ashkenazi, ergo all you need to know. Nazism as such is invariably connected to these guys. Wet dream of Khazarian mafia to regain the ancient motherland sprawling between the Black and the Caspian Seas (vast part of contemporary Ukraine). If you really want to understand how come nazism could have ever managed to reach mass psychosis stage and turned into the common religion of the Third Reich, one need to turned back in time further than to WW2 times.
I would suggest reading about Cecil Rhodes and his tenets, “scramble for Africa”, Round Table movements, etc. Then Rhodes scholars who intercepted political and economic life in the rising new empire that subsequently attracted many Ashekanzi descendants who have been thriving until today by playing geopolitical chess games (eg. Soros or Nuland). They used “robber barons” or directly worked with them to push the bloody agenda. Suffice to name only 2 high-profile individuals at the time: Paul Warburg (eg FED Act main architect and godfather of the Bolshevik Revolution sponsoring) and Jacob Schiff (Kuhn, Loeb & Co – Hitler’s major sponsor, the money that made a difference in 1929-1933 allowing Hitler to win elections and turn Germany into Third Reich autocracy). In a nutshell without Wall Street money Hitler would have been “Mr Nobody”. Hitler was scrupulously followed by Prussia intelligence (eg. his negotiations with NYC bankers in Adlon Hotel in Berlin since 1929). Carl Severing who was internal affairs minister at the time ordered his secretary Abegg to examine the entire money transfer documentation. They knew all Hitler’s money had come from abroad likewise military hardware (most people think he got it from Reichswehr). Sounds familiar if it comes to Ukraine and events leading up to SMO? History does not repeat, but often rhymes………
In 1929 US$ 85 billion was assigned by American financial elite to meet foreign governments’ needs (and private persons working for them). It was the effect of their dissatisfaction with Versailles Treaty favouring France at the expense of Germany. They wanted strong Germany, they wanted WW1 Germany’s reparation payments towards France in-kind not in gold, because the US (read: private American banks controlled by Ashkenazi capital) extended loans to Germany and wished the all-German gold to be used to repay those loans as opposed to be transferred to France. Therefore, Ashkenazi used Hitler as a tool to shape European politics. Unfortunately for the world the guy had become a loose cannon who did not give a shit about his patrons following power grab in February 1933 (one need to remember there were the last, multiparty democratic elections, legitimately won by NSDAP in coalition with DNVP and Stahlhelm). However the fun had only just started. In 1993 antisemitism was primarily non-existent in Germany. Something had to happen to push Khazarian mafia dream forward…..https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html
Conclusion? Follow the money………..always. I have read today the US printing press has already coughed up US$33 billion to defend Ukraine…..considering inflation it looks peanuts compared to US$ 85 billion at the time. Those crazy guys will for sure shoot for triple digits to match historical “stunt”…….Why do not we have more classes in schools to teach young generation the true history as opposed versions pushed by the propaganda?
Russia would have to defeat entire west, do a mass cleansing of all nazi sympathizers, and educate people to abhor this ideology over at least 2-3 generations. But that is a tall order. So next best thing is to destroy them wherever, whenever, and however it is possible, in whatever way is best.
“And Stalin halted the Red Army in Berlin prematurely.”
The strategic decisions were not exclusively those of Mr. Stalin, and were informed by and predicated upon, the prime consideration/necessity of rebuilding “The Soviet Union”, an ongoing process since 1941 concurrently with the process of destruction, which “The Western allies/”partners”” sought to sabotage by various means including the “Cold War” which was never cold.
The present “strategy/wishes” of “The United States of America” are mirrored image of their “strategies/wishes” from at least 1922 onwards, vectors and velocities varying as functions of contexts.
This also informed the strategies of others in 2014 and subsequent.
Step one was to pretend there are no Nazi’s.
Step two was to pretend there aren’t a significant number of them.
Step three was to get the public get so caught up in the wests cause, that they would refuse to look at the evidence, for fear of having been wrong themselves.
No westerner is going to look back at the clear evidence and say, wait, I was wrong.
Any day now I expect the tax paying citizens of the EU to rise up asking how can it be with austerity at home we have to fund the Gov. of Ukraine with our tax dollars during inflation an Energy costs exploding !!
Big Bang Boom
In America, the MSM is the driver. It’s all about the next thing. Everyone here has moved to the next thing.
Covid replaced Impeachment.
Ukraine replaced Covid.
Abortion replaced Ukraine.
I’m guessing famine will replace abortion in a few months.
Lots of sheep here.
Shearing is a continuous venture here in the US.
So true, Will.
Corralled into the corner of the sheep pen, the sheep are more easily lead to the slaughter.
I`m betting on the States.
The number and severity of the issues there is beyond anything.
I have no clue as to why it has not blown it`s lid yet…
Give ya 10-1 odds.
Matter of fact, IMO, the ukr festivities are most likely to terminate not on the field of battle, but in the District of Corruption.
Please don’t bet buratino. This country is full of weaklings and posers. The political fractures are beyond repair. The USA needs to be canceled for the sake of humanity. And all of it’s satellites need to be flushed with her.
Thass what I wuz sayin boss. The first to blow – from the inside out…hopefully
Well, you’ve been waiting a long time…
I’ve been trying to tell them for years…… with no success.
Here in Switzerland one enjoys an enormous popularity…. and everything that could remind one…that it is not “forever” is suppressed, one shouldn’t say that.
And it’s the socialists, called the “Greens” and “SPD” here, who have been trying to lead our country into the abyss for decades.
The fight against it has been going on for as long as I can remember.
Here in Switzerland the party…. “SVP” is the biggest party… it has to fight against 4 other parties.
In our democracy, this means that 4 smaller parties can join forces to defeat the largest party.
Just because Switzerland is the only country with a better democracy, we call it “direct democracy” (with initiative and referendum), we haven’t become “Linkstssat”.
“Referendum” means that with 50,000 signatures, we can force a vote (a binding referendum) on any subject.
Initiative means….. we can, for example, introduce a law by collecting 100,000 signatures and then there must be a referendum. It is then mandatory to implement it.
If other countries had these rights, the Ukraine crisis would not exist.
Despite this, our government has thrown Switzerland’s neutrality overboard.
It will still be an issue, but it will take years… direct democracy is good, but slow.
Correct. It’s become a war now between those who were illicitly vilified vs those who directed and participated in the falsely/fraudulently predicated vilification of truth and objective reality.
It is not hyperbole to diagnose the collective west as being afflicted by an intentionally inflicted mass formation psychosis.
We fight agiant not only flesh and blood, but Principalities and spiritual things.
A paraphrase obviously and yet never the less truthful enough.
This actually is a battle that transcends anything ever faced when considered in proper context, including scope and scale.
You either see it or you don’t.
You either eventually will, or you perhaps never will….
Some of us though certainly know and our numbers are growing.
Great to hear from Irish people like your good self roddy and the likes of Finian Cunningham speaking truth to power. It’s a pity you don’t get traction in Ireland where yet again a popular poll showed a strong majority in favour of neutrality as our Fianna Fáil Fine Gael Green government pushes us toward nato/EU military alliance. Irish people are not stupid, propaganda is heavy, but not working. This is becoming ever clearer. Thank you for providing clarity in the fog of war and propaganda.
How many times did they make you vote till you actually have gave in and joined the EU? 3 times?…😉
Manufacturing consent takes time. Hopefully it doesn’t work all the time, for everyone sake.
It happened twice in Ireland. EU democracy in full swing.
I have been urging to stop this constant finger pointing and calling everything in the world that moves nazi or fascist. It leads nowhere – matter of fact – you end up incriminating your own self by betraying your own principles.
I would like to discuss the issue here, have tried b4, but have been censured each and every time.
This discussion will be had eventually, here or elsewhere, and in real life, but instead of joining the cancel circus by madly screaming nazi at each other, we should discuss it.
One should be able to define a thing one hangs a name on.
Otherwise it is nothing, but hysteria and fear.
So let us begin with:
– nazi: define the term
-fashist: define that one
To me at this point, they mean one thang only: Your desire to end the conversation and cancel your opponent, his arguments, kill him, injure him, impoverish him, without due process. Take power away from him with no chance of getting hurt in the process.
That is ALL, that these terms mean to me.
They qualify the the user of these terms mostly, since they are so overused, frequently both parties snapping this Jolly Joker at each other. And why not? It is the end of the line, You pointed out the witch – may the crowd rejoice at the bonfires.
That is where I am. I do not care, what You call each other, or me – I care why.
But You see, the why requires that very same conversation You are trying to avoid by flashing Your ace of spades…
…for a start…
In Ukraine it’s taught now that the white race is the superior one and should be empowered while Russians are ‘untermenschen’–cockroaches, if you will–who must be exterminated. Textbooks in the schools teach this.
Nicely fits a Nazi definition for me.
– that the white race is the superior one
Using that “definition” the most nazi state in the world is North Korea, aborting half-Koreans.
A lot of people consider themselves superior. I assume that to be true for the Amish people, Liberals in general, and Jews. Hezbollah is even more superior.
I agree that many consider themselves superior. It’s what one does with that belief that turns it into Nazism. Believing that the lesser beings should be exterminated is a pretty clear marker.
Nationalism is what makes the world go around according to George Friedman.
Marxist and liberal universities are no more connected to reality than the marxist “money is running the world”.
Nationalism and family matters.
Can you please provide a valid source for your claim? There must be a pdf of given textbooks? Half or Ukrainian people are Russians – are they told in school about being cockroaches?
I recently saw an article about similar books now turning up in Germany.
Russians have been called cockroaches over and over by the government itself. Just a few weeks ago one of the charming Ukie ‘officials’ was on their Channel 24 explaining that killing the Russian servicemen wasn’t enough, that one had to kill their entire families, including the children, because they were like cockroaches and needed to be exterminated or they’d keep reproducing.
Who exactly is “… calling everything in the world that moves nazi or fascist” (other than you)??
It seems you’re attempting to construct a fairly pointless strawman argument here. The author, and everyone else familiar with Ukraine’s sadistic neo-Nazi militias, is simply calling Nazis “Nazis”.
It’s their professed ideology! Therefore, it’s entirely appropriate terminology.
We have a cultural division here. While Russians will never say a good word about the nazis, in West it will be different. They will hardly understand what Putin or the Russians are talking about. In West there will never be a good world about Stalin, and the Russians will not understand.
I have replied to you in detail, but it did not pass the standards of the mods. Sorry. I do not seem to be able to continue this thread, but I will give it one short try:
The Canadian truck rally was recently called nazi by – their PM…and I can give You many, many more.
So no, it is not me.
I have NEVER ever in my life called anyone nazi or fascist. based on my understanding of the issue laid out above.
On my Mother`s grave.
– The author, and everyone else familiar with Ukraine’s sadistic neo-Nazi militias, is simply calling Nazis “Nazis”.
Not really. The ethic cleansing we see in Donbass was planned by Rand Corporation 2014-2015 – in plain words … like … we have to kill them and put the remaining Russian speaking into kz-camps.
What is happening is not because some unemployed neo-nazis went to Donbass, but because some with $20? trillion (that number is equal the company capital Larry Fink is managing) decided to start ethnic cleansing of Donbass .. and possible WWIII,
If you can afford to colonize Mars you may be a nazi.
Think of these nearly 500 years of European success and history of expansion. Above all, it was also colonial history.
Think of “Christianization”.
(Today it comes along as “liberalization” or “democratization”).
Think of “Robinson Crusoe and Friday”.
Think of the “master man” (and he is somehow inside all of us). …
The whole purpose of economic policy is to create the conditions for the maximum happiness for the maximum number of people.
Fascism is an economic model, compare with socialism and free market, ‘laissez faire’ capitalism.
Mussolini defined fascism as Corporatism: the marriage between corporations and the state.
In the so-called Western ‘liberal democracies (what a joke!), billionaire oligarchs have inserted themselves above political authority i.e. the will of the people. While the mainstream media (owned by billionaire oligarchs) continuously polarise (Divide et impera) the general public with every issue:
– gay rights
– drug legalisation,
– etc, etc
they can pretty much do as they please.
Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw once said ‘The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more he understands the guillotine.”
Tempers in the US are at fever-pitch. People in cafes openly and quietly talk about civil war/revolution.
No one wants it, but because its so easy to manipulate the public mind, the latest pathetic attempt by the Democrats with the leaking of the US Supreme Court ruling (re: Roe v. Wade) to get the vote out for the November MId-terms because POTUS is so on the nose and with rising fuel and food prices – it will come.
If Trump runs in 2024 – I’d go so far to say its a certainty.
Fascism is when an elected government acts in the interests of large corporations exclusively, that is the legal definition of a fascist state.
Nazis are people who support fascist ideas. Nazis are people with extreme views on who qualifies as being worthy of life, though they barely muster a serious thought in their own heads. There is only one place for Nazis, in a pit, burning in agonising pain before they go to Hades preferably.
The nazis of Ukraine wanted the death of russians of Ukraine. That’s the point. And they influenced the parliament, yes, and they were a strength, up to protect and prepare a coup against Russia, conventional, chemical or biological. . Its why West desperately want to make them heroes
Ismael Zadeh Hussein, a professor at a north American university, wrote some articles several years ago explaining that fascism was an inherent characteristic of capitalism under crisis. Explaining it as mainly the product of singular ‘comic’ villians like Mussollini and Hitler was a diversionary tactic. Try explaining that to one’s interlocutors after 70 years of modern Western history lessons! Elsewhere economist Jack Rasmus opines that Neoliberalism is moving from the Thatcher-Regan ‘there is no alternative’ model to NL 2.0, where to prolong itself it will have to abolish democracy and become more overtly authoritarian. Its easy to see how more overt authoritarianism may be required in the EU to cope with the unrest of possible hyper-inflation due to Russian counter-sanctions. The presence of a good number of Ukranian hyper nationalists among those being given refuge in the EU, possibly trained in Poland and Germany by Western intelligence agencies for disruptive behaviour back in contested Ukraine, could become a useful part of the Western authorities ‘toolbox’ at home in quelling dissent.
Excellent comment, Geoffrey.
Back in the 1940’s ( I forget the exact year) Orwell expressed it thus:
“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact.”
As you read the above quote, think Military-Industrial-Counter-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think Tank (MICIMATT) complex – a term coined by political activist Ray McGovern.
Here’s Pepe Escobar expressing the same sentiment:
“The “forever war” may have been a disaster for the bombed, invaded and impoverished “Afghan people,” but it was an unmitigated success for what Ray McGovern so memorably defines as the MICIMATT (Military-Industrial-Counter-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think Tank) complex. Anyone who bought stocks of Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and the rest of that crowd made – literally – a killing.”
Australian-German freelance investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein traveled across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Haiti, Papua New Guinea, the US, Britain, Greece, and Australia to document how Capitalism makes a fortune from disaster, poverty and catastrophe in Disaster Capitalism – Making a Killing Out of Catastrophe
Canadian author, activist & filmmaker, Naomi Klein in The Shock Doctrine – The Rise of Disaster Capitalism especially Part 5 in which she introduces the “Disaster Capitalism Complex”, a complex series of networks and influence employed by private corporations which allows them to profit from disasters, documents the same.
Given that around the world, an estimated 262 million people have been killed since the age of Imperialism (aka Colonialism & Exploitation) this effect of Capitalism has to be seen not as a bug – but as a feature.
A small correction:
MICIMATT is an abbreviation for the Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank complex.
Congressional not Counter-Intelligence.
Every US Congressman has a pet project to enhance his visibility and in doing so increases the risk of war and also the profits of the defence industry.
The author wrote “Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.”
A few years back I wrote an article for a quarterly journal, in which I traced the history and philosophy of liberalism.
In the process of researching and writing I came to the conclusion that liberalism, because of its own view of itself and its definitions of its concepts, will result inevitably in authoritarianism.
Yet I’m simply amazed that as of now, so quickly, we have gone past authoritarianism to full-blown totalitarianism.
Steve do you still have a link to your article I would like to read it.
Thanks for your interest K.
Unfortunately the journal was hard copy only, and an online journal that featured it, State of Nature, is now defunct.
Here’s an extract relevant to the above;
“The dangerous superficiality of Hobbes’ work can also be seen in his view that “The origin of all society is to be found in the mutual fear of all its members;” because “All in their natural condition are possessed of the will to injure others.” This led him to conclude that civil society is comprised of people coming together uneasily, suspicious of each other’s motives, under a strong leader for mutual protection, that leader requiring in return, unquestioning obedience. From this Hegel made the suggestion, subsequently adopted by US strategists, that civil society is “the realm in which men pursue their self-interest and treat others as a means to their ends.” Put these beliefs together and it’s not hard to see why authoritarianism is the natural end-game of liberalism. An ideology based on individualism must by its very nature generate little if any social cohesion, and will most likely undermine social concepts and institutions. (As in the urge to privatise public utilities.) Its resulting system, in order to prevent splintering, must be authoritarian, and because liberals have expanded their fear and suspicion into the global arena, their system will be militaristic and aggressive as we see today. These are not simply criticisms from an outsider with an axe to grind, but the inevitable consequences of their own explanations of themselves and of their perception of the world. We should not accept for a moment their pious claims that respect for diversity and human dignity are the hallmarks of liberalism. Liberals despise, fear, and oppose, often with brutal force, any form of self-determination which actually empowers people by preventing elite control of economic affairs. Liberalism brooks no rivals despite its alleged devotion to the ideal of competition, and its true regard for diversity can be seen in the periodic purging of progressives by the Liberal Party in Australia.”
Steve: You have written an excellent and incisive critique of the core pathology of bourgeois individualism. This is a form of individualism that actually rots true individuality from the inside, as that individualism, by definition, alienates itself from its necessary and complementary dialectical opposite – natural community. True individualism is like a plant. It must be well rooted in the soil of community in order to grow and develop authentically. So you have described a pathology of pseudo individualism that can only result in a hyper authoritarian tyranny.
People here are struggling to define it with the word “fascism.” However the continued struggling with this term “fascism” indicates to me that the concept of fascism is lacking in historical depth. You have pointed out that we need to go to the roots of what I call modern bourgeois individualism or Liberalism to find the core of this beast. My preferred term is patriarchal egoism. This has been evolving for 5,000 years and has now reached its final apex in what we can perhaps call bourgeois individualism. It is really a totalitarianism of egoism.
You did a fine job by taking it all from Hobbes. Thank You Graeme from NZ
Thanks for your thoughts Graeme.
It was actually Fukuyama that put me onto Hobbes. In the intro to The End of History he proudly linked Hobbes and Locke as the founders of liberal thought.
You mentioned the continued struggle with the term “fascism”. This confusion is not surprising given that liberals, with the greatest propaganda coup in history, have presented their proto-fascism as something benign and worthy by giving it a name associated with a virtue we all aspire to. We all want to think of ourselves as liberal. I explained this to a philosophy group and was met with blank stares, because they had been conditioned all their lives to think that Liberals are actually liberal. Even people who are left of centre like to think of themselves as liberal. And many professional commentators are not aware that liberalism is the political arm of economic individualism, and is therefore anti-community.
Others here have noted with some surprise the ease with which the liberal West has embraced the fascist elements of Ukraine society. But when liberalism is put under the microscope, we should not be surprised at all.
You referred to patriarchal egoism, and there certainly is a male domination aspect to all this. Just look at the swinging dicks club that is the Liberal/National coalition in Australia.
If there is one thing the Christian benefits from his faith it is one learns very quickly whose one’s enemies are.
Bonhoeffer understood this very well! He lived the words…
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said:
“Wake up, sleeper,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”
Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord.” Eph. 5:11-19
I just wish though that where “being wise” is concerned, if only Bonhoeffer knew what I know about climate change being the work of God, what could he have done with it? This is what I find terribly perplexing is the complete obliviousness of the teaching of this important topic from the Bible? The ignorance is maddening really! but I guess true are the words ‘my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.’ Hosea 4
Can we perhaps stop throwing the baby out with the bath water!!!!
Thank you Roddy, that hits several nails squarely on their heads. I think the public mind was well prepared by the fear porn of CV19 (which also sounds like some extremist political faction.) They are ready to believe anything at this stage, even that a “limited” nuclear conflict is a sensible solution. All the terror and rage bottled up (and locked down) in them is already breeding the same old monsters – they will virtue signal to the grave.
…and it gave them a good estimate of the percentile of their flock they can drive to the abattoir…without too much trouble
Any self-proclaimed “liberal” with attachment to wealth / sex / fame is a total fake, a useless and even predatory human being. The person preaches goody goody “liberalism” to others — but that outward role is designed cleverly to hide the devilish darkness that lies within. Never trust such a person. Never. A simple street vendor has better ethics than a greedy owner of a hundred shopping malls who plays “liberal” politics to burnish his or her public profile, so that his or her greed can gain a larger business territory through political games. Violence is simply a business tactic. Goons are easily hired.
Moderators – This comment is In the spirit of my comment in the earlier “Open Thread” on this blog – please do not block it as others have been as I present this comment as further “food for thought” for those with the wisdom to see the message:
On Monday, the International Guild of Tattoo Artists reported to us that since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February of this year, there has been a massive increase in requests received by Guild members to produce WW2 and Ukraine themed art work.
Intricate tattoos depicting various versions of “The Black Sun”, “The Totencopf” (an esoteric skull-and-cross-bones emblem of the 3rd SS Division of WW2), and “The Ukrainian Trident” were highlighted as being particularly sought after by tattoo seekers.
Other requests made of Guild members included “the emblem of the Heroic Ukrainian Azov Battalion” and a stylised version of the Swastika (particularly popular with women).
Previously, International Guild of Tattoo Artists members were prohibited from producing Nazi related designs or incorporating Nazi symbols in their tattoo artwork, but since Nazisim in the UK, US, and EU is in fact now actively encouraged in support of Ukraine (even by the German Government), all restrictions were lifted by the Guild and members are now free to express thier creativilty.
In March of this year alone, Guild members reported that 1000’s of patriotic teenagers and “twenty somethings” throughout the EU, UK, and US received their first Nazi or Ukraine related tattoos, with “Azov Battalion” themed tattoos taking top spot for design requests. 1000’s more already tatooed people returned for symbols such as the “Ukrainian Trident” or a “Swastika in a cube” tattoo.
Such is the outpouring of support for Ukrainian Nazis through body-art and tattoos, that the MSM have begun to interview Guild members and publish stories, such as this from the UK Guardian Newspaper showing the creativity of members – with unique “NLAW” and “Petrol Bomb Thrower” designs being tattooed on young bodies throughout the EU and UK:
This is another Tattoo related article from the UK Times newspaper:
Also in the UK, The British chapter of the International Guild of Tattoo Artists are proud to anounce that they have teamed up with Church leaders to encourage tattoos.
Church Ministers are leading their congregations by example and are getting a tattoo in support of Ukraine, with Ministers from the United Reform Church being particularly active, some recieving neck swastikas and other symbols of, quote, “Peace and Solidarity with our Ukrainian brothers currently heroically resisting Russian aggression and protecting the children of Mariupol in Azovstal”.
Other tattoo studios are specialising in Joke tattoos such as this classy “Putin has nits! Pass it on!” design:
One British man, when asked why he was having a “Putin has Nits” design tattooed on his neck, replied, quote, “I always like to show my support for good causes, and there aint many better than that one and the hero Zelinsky and his special forces holding back the whole Russian army in Azovstal”.
Another British man, a 60 year old unemployed man from Bolton who previously did not think Nazi designs were cool, decided to get a neck Totencopf, an Azov slash on his arm, and a Ukraine trident inspired design tattoo on his leg:
American members of the Guild have reported a 1000% increase in requests for “Happy Days” themed tattoos. It was initially thought they were related to the hit TV show staring Henry Winkler as “The Fonz”, but a US Contractor on his way to help fill the gaps in the ranks of Azov in Ukraine revealed, ” the Happy Days tattoos are in support of the British resistance fighter Aiden Aslin”, who was noted as sporting a “Happy Days” tattoo on his arm. Link to photo of Aidens tattoo:
In Germany, a member of the Guild, Heinrich, stated that,
“now that Nazis and Nazi symbols are once again acceptable, and even encouraged by the State when related to Ukrainian Nazis, we can once again proudly tattoo our Brothers and Sisters with any of the previously banned WW2 signs, symbols, and slogans they wish. Previously Guild members such as myself were required by Law to decline requests for Nazi artwork, but now that Nazis are once again encouraged and supported by the German State the Guild released this restriction. We now have the freedom to create new and modern Nazi icons for the 21st century for all to wear and enjoy”.
Finally, in France Guild members report long ques forming outside their tattoo studios for Nazi and Azov related tattoos as young French people show their love and support for “the Heros of Ukraine” – Azov Battalion:
Before long, we will see “(millions of) chicken coming home to roost”. The scene will most probably not be too different from “barbarians sacking Rome”.
With all due respect for those who tattoo themselves “innocently”, when I think of tattoos I think of the animals that we helped to mark, as children, in the field of relatives, to differentiate them from others.
That is what a tattooed person means to me: “a marked animal”.
I also think that a person who gets tattoos, wears piercings, paints their hair in crazy colors, etc., is someone with very low self-esteem who needs something like that to be noticed, because he needs to be noticed…
I did not see any ministers sporting Nazi tattoos in that link. The images I saw was of a dove and the CND symbol.
I visited an Evangelical Church some time ago and as an illustration the minister said about those getting tattooed that after some 40 -50 years did they ever think what those tattoos would look like with sagging skin etc? The place was just shocked but there it was. Later and into the week i could never let go of what he said and watching some people at my place of work, it was a care home for the elderly, there was this one dear care aid an older lady who was fully tattooed up the arms etc. As I looked at her going about her duties so many questions ran through my mind like if she ever regretted getting them etc? As for myself one thought came into my mind and that is being married to someone all tattooed up like that. How i thought too myself could i ever ravish a woman with kisses whose skin is an advertisement for all kinds of nonsense? Can you imagine kissing Nazi swstikia’s? Dragons? Many years later to I heard a mother upset about her daughter getting a tattoo and i shared with her this story and my own feelings and told her about what happens in the bedroom. She fully understood and wasn’t to happy. Ah, the taint of sin and the tears that always follows when the wake up occurs? sob.
Terrific piece. As many Saker readers are aware, fascism comes to the fore when capitalism breaks down, as is happening in the US and much of the EU, and is employed by the ruling elite as an ideological rationale to harness state power to protect their wealth/power and maintain class structure. Historically, fascism has drawn support from: large financial interests, the enforcers- military/police, corporate media owned by the ruling elite and organized religion such as the Catholic Church. Thus, the highest Court in the US is now dominated by an institution-Catholic Church that supported Fascism in Spain, Portugal, Italy and Germany and has institutionalized child sexual abuse- the most recent report revealing that Catholic Priests in France abused 200K-300K children. During WWII, Western Ukraine allied with Nazi Germany while Eastern Ukraine allied with the Soviet Union. Thus, following the US-sponsored 2014 Maidan Coup (aka ‘Revolution of Dignity’) the US/NATO pumped in $ billions of military aid to the most virulently anti-Russian forces in Ukraine- the Right Sector and affiliated Nazi groups.
US/EU ‘support’ for Ukraine should be viewed within the context of accelerating rot/decline of late-stage American capitalism, which has progressed to the point where its very survival requires constant debt monetization (aka money printing) to prop up Wall St., insolvent banks and over-priced real estate. This is becoming increasingly tenuous as this orgy of money printing and debt has created gigantic bubbles in every asset class- ‘everything bubble’, increasing inflation and threatening to derail the dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The ruling elite view the Russia-China-Iran axis as an intolerable obstacle to US global power and will use any available tool, including supporting fascist groups in Ukraine to confront this axis. Can you say WWIII?
Thanks for a very fine expose’, Roddy. Indeed, the massive amount of prior MSM revelations about Ukraine’s neo-Nazi “problem” has seemingly gone down the Memory Hole, at least insofar as the MSM is concerned.
Shades of “1984”: “We have always been at war with Eurasia!”
I suppose next we’ll be hearing, “The Fuehrer was sweet, the Fuehrer was kind …”, a la Mel Brooks’ “The Producers”.
And really, how much distinction is there between “exceptional nation” and “master race”? Always sounded pretty similar to me.
“One only has to look at the manner in which the Azov Battalion, a fully-fledged Ukrainian Nazi militia, with significant influence, has been whitewashed in the space of ten weeks.”
To paraphrase Erasmus: “What is the source of funding for these problems?”
The Jews fitting out Azov idiots must not also be allowed to create Khazaria II anytime anywhere, particularly not their left over rump!
We will all love to see 6 mill Israelis moving back to Ukraine.
Call it “for the sake of the world”.
Odessa used to be a Jewish capital
Nazi is a person who thinks he’s morally superior to another. The master race….Nazi. The “exceptional” American (or Brit/European) is a Nazi.
Christ said “all have fallen short of the glory of God.”
If you are unrepentant, you are not a peacemaker, you will not inherit the earth. If you say another is more evil than you, you missed Christ’s truth. No sin is worse than any other. And sin leads to death….for every person.
Putin is a sinner, but he is repentant Christian. I don’t see a western leader who wants peace……except Trump.
Stolen elections have consequences.
“How were the Nazis able to convince the public to vote for them? How did they convince the people to go along with their fascist agenda and barbaric policies? How was the Holocaust allowed to take place?” Your students pose these questions because they assume that Germany was a special case. That somehow the German mentality or culture, or even the German race as some like to posit, is inherently authoritarian, cruel, or weak and thus Nazis/fascism was able to flourish.
Stanley Milgram was the first to shed light on this issue with his experiments on obedience to authority in the 1960s. The majority of subjects went along with administering what they believed were dangerously high levels of electric shocks, if pressed to do so by authority figures. Howard Zinn also recognized that it is not disobedience but obedience to authority that is the problem. More recently Mattias Desmet discussed his theory of mass formation (psychosis), and why so many people go along with the masses or the demands of authority figures. The majority of people will happily go along with “the current thing.” Another large percentage of people will go along just to get along, while a small minority will object. This is also what Milgram discovered in his research. Only a small number of test subjects stood up to authority and refused to increase the electric shocks to dangerous levels.
Propaganda just increases the speed of acceptance, but it always seems to play out this way. The majority happily obey, another large portion go along, and a small minority resist, refuse or even sabotage efforts of authority. It’s not a simple nature/nurture issue. To my knowledge, and I have been interested in this topic for a long time, no one has developed a theory of what motivates the disobedient minority.
K.S. you would probably enjoy the book — Resisting Illegitimate Authority by Bruce E. Levine. This book profiles some American anti-authoritarians who resisted illegitimate authority. This is a snippet from the back of the book:
‘The capacity to comply with abusive authority is humanity’s “fatal flaw.” Fortunately, there are anti-authoritarians–people comfortable questioning the legitimacy of authority and resisting it’s illegitimate forms. However, as Resisting Illegitimate Authority reveals, these rebels are regularly scorned, shunned, financially punished, psychopathologized, criminalized and even assassinated.
As an anti-authoritarian myself, I really liked the book.
Thanks @pmcall! I’ll look into it.
Finish the job Brothers:
Appeal of the father of the Hero of Russia, who died with the words “Work, brothers”
– We are on the eve of a great holiday – the holiday of the Great Victory over the fascist plague, which our grandfathers and great-grandfathers won 77 years ago and gave us such a beautiful life.
These days, a special operation is taking place to liberate Ukraine from fascist evil spirits, which our grandfathers did not finish to the end. Our grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those fighters and warriors today continue this war to denazify Ukraine.
Our guys show courage, heroism, so I want to wish them health, success and good luck,” said the Hero’s father.
There are more than a few poor definitions of fascism, such as Eco’s word salad. I think Dimitrov got it most right when he called the political expression of finance capitalism. For a serious communist, the modifier on capitalism is important. The west is an empire of finance capitalism. Since the 90’s the US (and increasingly Europe) have abandoned industrial capitalism; maybe that was grounded well enough in the material to keep fascism at bay … mostly.
US finance capitalism always had a thing for fascism, as did British finance capitalism. Allen Dulles ran a private bank for German industrialists and supporters of the NSDAP, specializing in arranging US investments. It seems the mask has finally dropped. As others in the thread have pointed out, crisis in finance capitalism is always going to be a trigger for open fascism. The rentier arrangements of finance capitalism make plenty of willing foot soldiers who have little else but can feel better through hate.
The US has played this game with race for a long time. During slavery poor whites in the south had less value than slaves. But once freed, a concerted effort to make poor whites feel superior to poor blacks allowed extractive economics to continue in different form. I’m no Marxist, nor do I have anything against profit. I simply wonder if our desire for profit above all else leads us to authoritarian and fascist impulses.
There is more to it than “profit” itself methinx. Actually profit is not the end, but the means to the levers of control.
Which in itself is an illusion…but the process can keep ya busy for a while…
As to finance capitalism – that is the aspect, which gives me assurance, that the current abortion we are in is not in any way comparable to the WWII scenario. the global west simply lacks the manufacturing capability, especially with the onset of an energy/material vacuum…not even mentioning the tooling and know-how, skilled personnel. It will take a decade of focused, centralized effort for both the industry and the military.
Capitalists always resort to Fascism in times of crisis ie. when the working class becomes aware of it’s inherent power. However, this time the “crisis” is of their own making ie.they want to kill the vast majority of humans on earth and enslave the rest.
I think it’s a mistake to look at the human problems through a political lens. As long as mankind lives in ignorance, the means of production will remain in the hands of a few.
A example about Lepen and their Nazi methods in France is they used it EU to flourish. I’m using an example of the department Gard in the South of France.
Wherever the “Lepenists” form the majority of a government in a community, they rule like a mafia gang. In one town in the Department of Gard, they openly use blackmail, coercion, and the threat of gas chambers against foreign businessmen, and the completely mired administration denies school lunches to children with Islamic backgrounds. Teachers who fight for social justice are threatened and have to sue for their rights, while the tribunal in Nimes protects the Nazi Lepenists of the FN/RN of Beaucaire and the mayor of this 62% FN/RN infested town was fined for discrimination. Hundreds of boat owners were forced to pay mooring fees against their will because they could not leave the harbor. The mayor is a protégé of Marine Lepen. She knows about these criminal methods. Whoever believes that Nazi criminals can help to create more democracy and freedom of speech is simply stupid.
In every municipality in France where the RN Lepenists “govern”, the debt has doubled and this party, if not prosecuted in time, will cause a civil war; so be careful what you wish for. The RN/FN once in power may dangle with carrots to Hungry and Poland, but Dutch, Danemark, Sweden and even Germany will turn their back and then France will economically collapse faster then we ever exspected. Nazism will not find its place next the totalitarism of the EU buerocracy not even under this totalitarism….
Amazing article. I wish I had a history teacher like you Roddy.
Not the uninspiring propaganda spouting teachers I had.
“Fun” story: My brother had to deal with a history teacher who would not accept that our grandfather wished to enlist as a volunteer in the Korean War, on the communist side. The teacher was adamant that all volunteers were forcibly conscripted.
You’ve inspired renewed respect in me for Western history teachers. Thank you
i would say “scratch a socalist and a fascist bleeds” because nearly all of the “liberal” talking points are straight out of marx.
And supposed ‘marxists’ running the same rubbish. Probably part of that trotskyist to neo-con transition in progress.
Still a steady job in academia awaits.
The Stalinist reintegration of Western Ukraine into the Soviet Union in 1945/6 cost the lives of 100,000 Ukrainians, perhaps not all of them Nazis. The Russians are no longer interested in the Galician bloodlands. Let the Poles and Hungarians have it.
I think the main reason for rise of nazism is national state. Every nation wants a state. I’m from Slovenia and we have a few demands. We would like all Carinthia south of Drava river and a few places north of it including Celovec – Klagenfurt. We would also like all countryside in province of Trieste and about half of province of Gorizia including that city. Of course we wouldn’t mind getting the city of Trieste itself. We would like Savudrija from Croatia (that’s only one village) and Szentgothard countryside from Hungary. What we se is this. We don’t have demands where the borders are old. We have demands where the borders are the newest (1954) And second: we don’t know much about foreign demands. Our neighbour Hungary wants Lendava and its surroundings. Croatia doesn’t have much demands. Their border with Italy is a little too much (maximalistic stance). Italy wants three litoral cities Koper, Izola and Piran and some villages close by. Austria wants recognition of its minority in the area of Kočevje and in cities Maribor, Ptuj and Celje. These demands by our neighbours are legal. They were and there is a numerous minority in some parts and for various reasons its number had changed significantly. Border in northeastern Adriatic would look like this from north to south: Monfalcone to Italy, coast to Slovenia, Trieste to Italy, all souroundings to Slovenia, Muggia to Italy, Koper and Izola to , all sourroundings and some coast to Slovenia, Piran to Italy, Umag, Novigrad Poreč, Rovinj, Pula to Italy, villages around to Croatia. So three countries would divide a small part. One would take cities, other two countryside around. This is impossible and unpractical. The border question is settled between all three countries. But in schools every country teaches by its own viewand ignore others. So, we want Klagenfurt and Trieste, Italy wants all Istria and all the children know this. But we don’t do anything about this. If the time is right and some input from some other major country, the problems may begin. We have only a small part of the sea, but (sea) fisherman is the most important profession in our country for the last 30 years. All because of border question with Croatia unresolved. If there is a benefit for some major force, we can go to war with Croatia or Italy after some 5 years of such indoctrination. We allready have a base. We need escalation (police actions, beatings, burning, killing a few) and constant propaganda and we will get war. Our nationalistic emotions can be used as an excuse for starting a war if other factors want. Small countries are dependent from larger ones. They can’t start a war alone. But if there is a will, then we get Ukraine.
The Russian special operation in Ukraine has nothing to do with so called national state. Russia has no intention of taking lands of the present borders of Ukraine but with one caveat. Crimea which would render the Russian Black Fleet useless and that is why a special agreement was signed between Russia and Ukraine for the status of Crimea. That was broken during the maiden coup and Russia has to act for its national security. This operation in Ukraine is about national security of the Russian state.
The wars in Yugoslavia in the 1990’s could be discussed in the context of nation state building where the national interests of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes destroyed the larger nation state of Yugoslavia. The result has left fragmented nation states with little or now power to pursue larger statehood regardless of any support from larger states . Slovenia just unloaded its dilapidated M84 tanks to Ukraine and does not have any military to speak off to even think about Trieste or otherwise. Of course being a member of NATO hinders but does not stop the possibility of war between members. The military tension between Turkey and Greece attests to this.
Substitute Nazis for any political party, or government for that matter, and you have what you have today… a continuation of the same propagandistic techniques that have molded minds from the beginning. It’s no accident that Goebbels was a fan of Edward Bernays and his propaganda methodologies masquerading as PR… public relations.
The Nazis were financed and trained by the Anglo-Americans to weaken Europe even more.
Eva C. Schweitzer and Herman Ploppa have written books about the US influence behind the rise of Hitler.
Besides, Hitler and the Vatican (-> global predictor!) went along well.
People like Montague Norman, Henry Ford and Prescott Bush have supported Hitler actively. Bernays propaganda lessons were thoroughly studied by Göbbels and Hitler.
After the war, many Nazi politicians and judges were welcomed in the new parties and courts. The butcher of Warschau joined into the FDP, pedophile Nazis created the Green Party and the writers of the race laws were allowed to enter the SPD.
Before I forget it, have a look at “Operation Paperclip”. ;)
CD Vision and others….
No that’s nonsense.
And it doesn’t help to idealize Russia just because you’re dissatisfied with the others.
Unfortunately, Germany’s character isn’t stable, not until today. They were always the Prussians in their mentality, they did everything thoroughly to the bitter end…. even the bad.
Coupled with the fact that democracy never really existed, it made Hitler possible.
A small militant section of society has led the masses into a world war. And since the Germans were thorough, they went along with it, served the authorities.
But….. now let’s look at Russia under Lenin, Stalin and company….. that was exactly the same.
While Stalin is not credited with starting the war, although he probably planned it, he did kill millions in his own country.
Gulag or concentration camp…… that was just a qualitative difference, the functionalities that made it possible hardly differed.
Why did people join communism?
Why with National Socialism?
And why did you take part in Corona?
Instead of swastikas or hammer and sickle you wore masks….
Corona is showing us that the old recipes still work?
Well, it doesn’t serve to equate the Europeans with their governments. Europe is moving towards totalitarianism….. be happy if you escape.
Regarding the comments …….. what does it say in the Bible?
“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone”.
The Nazis in Kiew…..
… Yes, they hardly won any votes in the elections, but they now control the government of Ukraine.
Here is a link where you can find something about it.
It shows what a lousy bunch they are.
“The West gave us weapons because we have fun, it’s fun to kill and fun to fight”
Analysis of the neo-Nazi group ‘C14’ and its leader’s recent speeches at the ‘Bandera readings’ conference.
Events in Ukraine
On February 5th, an event called “Bandera readings” took place in Kiev – a forum about the goals and objectives of nationalists, involving representatives from various such groups. The organizer was the party “Svoboda” and the conference was chaired by one of its members, former People’s Deputy of Ukraine Yuriy Sirotyuk………………..
Fascism is a fancy name for something inherent to many societes – it is a reaction to danger. To keep all the rods together, unbreakable.
Danger could be real, but in the case of fascism – the late fruit of colonial splendour and social darwinism –, it is more or less connected to projection of self, disconnected, lonely, overrated and fragile in so many different ways.
We have been outnumbered by “rats”, lowly creatures, carrying the plague, multiplying times faster than us, leaving us from our rightful heritage. Our Lebensraum is polluted, our world is overpopulated, there’s no air to breathe anymore – we must put a tax on it, somebody must pay for it dearly.
So we have climate change, overpopulation and dangerous diseases that need to be cured in ways never used before. We are all in dire need of Terapia Magna:
“Physicians in Nazi Germany used euphemism to great effect. They were not murdering mentally handicapped individuals with poisonous gas; they were ‘euthanising’ Lebens unswertesleben (literally, ‘life unworthy of life’), ‘cleansing’ or ‘disinfecting’ German genetic stock. They were not sending children and families to die by suffocation; they were ‘selecting’ them for ‘special treatment’ (Sonderbehandlung) or Terapia Magna Auschwitzciense in ‘showers’. They were not murdering individual humans, they were ridding their country of, as Klein stated, a ‘gangrenous appendix’. By using this language, Nazi physicians were able to rationalise and intellectualise what they were doing, living with their crimes while detaching from them further.”
Alessandra Colaianni, “A long shadow: Nazi doctors, moral vulnerability and contemporary medical culture,” http://jme.bmj.com/content/38/7/435.full.pdf?sid=aceda3f9-6085-4457-8acd-fab641713ba2
And doctors that are presently performing medical experiments on people and murdering many are “vaccinating”.
The western MSM is one solid creature which is firmly controlled by the zionist Rupert Murdoch Corp, who in turn is controlled by the big bankers. All the news, films, movies and the rest are manipulated according to the agendas of the globalists. In the post WWII and the rise of consumer culture, average westerners consume news without the ability for independent thinking. They only believe in news that they like. The report they can’t understand is what they don’t like. In order to get the Americans and the Europeans pay proper attention to the dangers of the Neonazi movement in western Ukraine, all the news must always be reported by, for instance, a very physically appealing (like a movie star) yet silly newscaster. This is the rule.
For God’s sake, there is no “Collective West”.
We have now New York Times as Pravda. EU as the Soviet Union. And the freedom is speech is exactly as highly appreciated in EU as in Soviet Union. The modern Soviet elite sits at Brussels and has always only one opinion, narrated in NYT.
This current EU five-year plan is focused on embracing NATO, organizing energy crisis, food crisis, and the eternal Holocaust crisis spiced with Climate Change Crisis.
Soviet EU is excellent in creating a Crisis. Take your pick. The aim of Soviet EU is always, make no mistake, to slave its white citizens with debt, mass migration, and finally with eternal guilt of The Holocaust. And, my friends, that particular Holocaust is the Holocaustest of All Holocausts. It is the Grandmother of All Holocaustest Holocausts.
So do not blame us, we re just as free as your beloved Soviet Citizens of The Bolshevik Zionist Revolution and just as guilty, no more, no less.
Who counts as white? Do you accept the designation half-caste? If so which half is which?
Quite frankly, you know very well what is white, what not.
It is not a crime to defend my own people. Defending is a moral and physical right and I need to apologize for nothing on this front. If you or anybody else is uncertain about his/her whiteness, who cares? I care about my brothers and sisters who are persecuted by mass migration from the Third World. I do not have any wish to start defining anything, I have enough to do in defending my own. And finally, we whites know who we are.
Could you tell me if a human being is half,-, European and half -Oriental are they half- white? What about the other half?. Second if you are upset about refugees to Europe why not stop invading their countries. Anyway we all originated in Africa.. So we are all the offspring of migrants, including you.
One more thing….. one should not forget that our Socialist / Social Democratic parties don’t give a damn about Nazism.
We now see what is happening in Ukraine-Nazis.
Never forget, Nazism is only a means to an end for our parties in Europe. They don’t care about the Nazis at all.
It only serves as a combat term to keep the German people small in particular.
It’s just convenient to have something that you can use to defame anything and everything. Above all, they smear the conservatives in the EU… as Nazis in everything.
In fact, “National Socialism” was left-wing extremism.
Those in the Ukraine now like to call themselves “Social Nationalists”…. comes to mind…(((-:
In the USSR it was the class enemy….. in the EU it was the Nazi.
Nazis, what were they really.
Well, amazing, but most of the so-called right-wingers don’t know that themselves.
WHY NATIONAL SOCIALISM WAS SOCIALISM AND WHY SOCIALISM IS TOTALITARIAN
October 28, 2013 – by George Reisman
[This paper is based on a lecture given at the conference “The Economics of Fascism, Supporters Summit 2005″ at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Auburn, Alabama (USA). It appeared as a paper on the Mises Institute website on November 11, 2005, entitled: Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian]
Utter nonsense. Big business supported Hitler and Hitler supported big business. Thus Hitler suppressed the SPD and the CP and the trade unions. Funny measures for socialism (D. Jeffrys, “Hell’s Cartel: I G Farben and the Making of Hitler’s War Machine” 2008)
Zyclon B was manufactured by a I G Farben subsidiary. ” The first mass killings…took place around 5th September 1941 when 900 Soviet prisoners…..were gassed”. Are these biolabs on Ukraine to manufacture drugs for a socialist medical plan?
Zyclon B was used on Mexican immigrant to US
“Zyklon B came to El Paso in the 1920s. In 1929, for example, a U.S. Public Health Service officer, J.R. Hurley, ordered $25 worth of the material–hydrocyanic acid in pellet form–as a fumigating agent for use at the El Paso delousing station, where Mexicans crossed the border from Juárez. Zyklon, developed by DEGESCH (the German Vermin-combating Corporation) was made in varying strengths, with Zyklon C, D and E representing gradations in potency and price.”
When the Germans run out of Zyklon B the inmates became sick. Never in history has so many died so fast in KZ camps as when the camps were run by the allies in 1945
Absolute nonsense. The reasons why Nazis used the word “socialist” is because at they time socialism was popular. It was theft of a word in an attempt to gain popularity.Indeed many,many real socialists died fighting Nazism.
“The reasons why Nazis used the word “socialist” is because at the(y) time socialism was popular.”
The “Socialism” was designed to be extended only to the Volksgemeinschaft – a construct predicated upon ethnic nationalism/fear-of-the-otherness – and hence was built upon deeper and wider historical connotations/practices that perhaps you fail to perceive.
This had and continues to have resonances in the modified Second Polish Republic which has dropped the number in hope of sustainability/finally-arrivedness/difference in the perception of those not excluded to self, and in Ukraine predicated on the developed beliefs of Mr. Dontsov.
The construct of the “ignorances” of the NSDAP were useful tools in matters of Persil shining, re-enforcement of others’ notions of their own “exceptionalism”, and the obfuscation that the progeny of the NSDAP do not pose an existential threat – at least to those who are “exceptional”.
Perhaps your praxis has a greater emphasis on the theoretical rather than the practical?
Slave camps was common in UK and Soviet after WWII … in PEACE time. Slave camps was fine with the socialists
Reading your comment I’m reminded of Martin Niemoller’s famous quote below. I also think about the term “liberal” today where some really evil people co-opted that word as well. I’m a classical liberal and I don’t support today’s modern day authoritarian liberals. For me they are NOT liberal at all. They just claim to be.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.”
Another “mis-translation” of Mr Neimollers words to join “First they came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew so I did not speak out” in the World Jewish Congress interpretation, perhaps reliant on Wikipedia’s “interpretation of the week” ?
Translation is always a problem and why interpretation is the only option in varying degree – the reliance on binaries instead of analogues which are similarly impossible given that change is a constant.
The original opening words interpreted into “English” were “First they came for the communists, but I was not a communist, so I did not speak out.”
The original second line of words interpreted into “English” were “Then they came for the socialists, but I was not a socialist, so I did not speak out”.
The original closing words interpreted into “English” were “Then they came for me, but there was no-one to speak out”.
Mr. Neimoller had a modicum of experience in the register and delivery of descant, litany and rhyme, in conjunction with his contemporary experience of acquiescence, including his own, which facilitated the activities of the NSDAP, some of whom also enjoyed a modicum of experience in the register and delivery of descant, litany and rhyme, hence his “mea culpa” which you “mis-translate”.
Thank you for illustrating one of the relatively simplistic, but popularly effective, tools of “propaganda”.
The public didn’t vote for the Nazi Partei, which lost every national election it contested. Even in the half bent election of March 1933 when ballot boxes were stuffed or disappeared, working class districts were blockaded to keep the vote in, SA watched over people’s shoulders as they marked their ballot paper, the press was censored and political parties banned, the German public rose to the challenge and rejected the NSDAP. It is a myth that Hitler was elected into power, he was manoeuvred into office by the camarilla around Hindenburg.
“The public didn’t vote for the Nazi Partei, which lost every national election it contested.”
An illustration that voting is an affectation, whilst acquiescence is a facilitation.
” It is a myth that Hitler was elected into power, he was manoeuvred into office by the camarilla around Hindenburg.”
It is also myth facilitating the obfuscation of acquiescence by the belief of the camarilla in the myth predicated upon notions of sole/prime agency – a practice presently engaged in by “The United States of America” facilitating reductions of acquiescence of many, including in continuing times when Persil shone/shines – from Wolffs to Zelensky.
After the War many former Gestapo officials,SS,military intelligence people and former Hitler Judges were employed once more by the West German State,others by the CIA,they have always been there yet at that time there was something called “Berufverbot” for people not seen as loyal to the new Reich,many former Nazis could also be found in the post war Bundeswehr,the third Reich just moved its HQ from Berlin to Washington.
I have never understood how national socialist workers party can be seen as far right. Indeed I have only ever seen real hate and vindictiveness in the left and the further left you look the worse it is. Even so called liberals are indeed more left leaning than politicians want you to believe.
Everyone needs to understand there is deep evil at play in the world. It goes way back to Venetian times and beyond. It comes down to money and control. It is a disease that takes hold of greedy, manipulative personalities. It was first recorded in 10thC England but historians have glossed over it. It repeated over the years and manifested in Southern States of America (KKK) and in the Russian revolutions culminating in a Communist take over. Then in Italy and on to Germany. None of those families involved ever left their ideology behind. They hid in plain sight. What is so shocking is the way many ‘democracies’ let them survive without retribution. Was this a genuine sense of Christian forgiveness or was it the result of poor governance by cowards.
The Western Governments of today have created unnecessary wars in order to control and suppress nations. They have stolen labour and destroyed autonomy of the family. Until we all stop creating boxes of right or left but understand there is something much more sinister at play that has been festering for hundreds of years, then we will never change the Old European Order for something better.
I agree with you and for one moment let’s take the equation of left and right out of Nazi Germany for a moment. Did Hitler not nationalise the banking system in Germany which was the first steps which freed Germany from rampant inflation and economic disaster? This was the main factor that led to war between the major powers.
Whenever I’m flush with cash I like to donate to various charities. I’m not interested in £X per month charities prefer as in my tiny brain that’s taking on debt and as I said, I can earn £0 in 12-18 months, in fact accumulating expenses along the way such as travel, hotel, general living, depending on country/job (usually early exploration mining) involving permits, licences, back-handers, hiring driver, local geological staff etc etc; however, if successful 6-7 figures may come in year 2.
The pandemic’s done me up like a kipper these last few years, too much hassle crossing borders, moving between states, the whole 9 yards, time consuming, therefore ‘earned income’ 3 years £0. Thankfully the previous 8-10 years was very good so no drop in lifestyle, more time to devour Saker/others, follow geopolitical events, become more cynical, frustrated, too much time on hands.
Yesterday, caught the UNICEF advert on TV requesting not your general £2-5 per month by assorted charities, but a useful idiot or just twisted b*stard, Scottish actor Ewan McGregor OBE who now holds citizenship of UK & America, requesting £27 to shelter a Ukrainian child.
Angered, I wanted to call him and ask where the bleeding heart was 8 years ago because he referred to the 8 year conflict. I wanted to ask who the recipients were (Kiev, Donbass, UK refugees ), bet it wouldn’t be the middle one of the 3.
Already the UK government/establishment is trying to subsidise it’s obligations by praying on the goodwill of the British public and no doubt they’ll be raising a tidy sum from their cronies benefiting from this conflict, in the main defence contractors, bankers and various assorted private corporations/individuals. No doubt they’ll be milking those elite Ukrainians who received fast-tracked permits of stay. We’ve already heard from the Home Office that the ordinary Ukrainian fleeing the country has seen considerable (purportedly intentional ) delays in the processing of their documentation/papers.
I’ve yet to check on how many have applied/been accepted and what will be the extent of the burden on the taxpayer. Still to compensate for the influx, folks here of African origin will be flown to Rwanda, Africa. The early fallout from the fleeing Ukrainians here in the UK was one of a united woke sympathy, however, once the majority of them heard it meant other nationalities, especially of African origin were to be the sacrificial lambs then all hell broke loose on social media; racist, prejudice, disgusting and more, the woke were now disunited. Also we were hearing about how people of African & Asian origin attempting to flee were being treated by the Nazis/Ukie authorities, which added fuel to the fire.
I laughed and laughed as my professional woke, sometimes estranged partner, withdrew along with her hundreds of followers/groups their Ukrainian flags of support. I’d say up to 50% of the support for Ukraine has vanished here.
I’m certain that even government support will dry up as the economy dips into recession/depression and government need to divert funds elsewhere like the National Health Service, especially the Mental Health Facilities (lol).
Still I wouldn’t be surprised if zero assistance was given to any Ukrainian refugee, remember the Afghans who helped US-UK are here in numbers, and the monies raised from UNICEF were to go towards resupplying the UAF with armaments.
There might even come a time when the UK-EU governments will look favourably on Russia cleaning up these useful idiots before they cross any borders.
The American forces I’m certain will want to salvage as many of their useful idiots in Azov, Right Sector and Svoboda for future skirmishes in Europe, ME and Africa, so best kill as many as possible now.
In the 1960s when I was a student studying my GCE ‘A’ levels (The entrance level exams for university in the UK) we were discussing the inter-war period and the rise of Hitler and Nazism in the History class. One day as we started our class, the teacher stood up with a wry smile on his face and said that “Hitler was a Liberal”. The whole class, who mostly identified as “liberal” or even “Marxist”, howled with laughter at what they thought must be a joke. When peace returned, the teacher explained the close correlation between Liberalism and movements of the Far Right which had attracted among others, rational, well-educated Germans. In short, Fascism and Nazism were types of “Liberal Extremism” usually encountered during periods of social and economic upheaval; for example, the collapse of the German economy and the loss of national purpose during the years of the Weimar Republic. The decline of the Anglo-West and the type of degenerate crisis-politics we are seeing now is a good example of this phenomenon.
As usual in the British Isles and the EU, the definition and branding misses the target.
Correct definition is that NAZI’s are bankers boys – see this photo :
Some Brits are not at all amused : see the new CH4 documentary :
‘Edward VIII’s treachery is mind-boggling’: Viewers of Britain’s Traitor King question ‘why Duke of Windsor wasn’t executed for treason’ after he told Nazis to keep bombing England during WWII
Hjalmar Schacht, Hitler’s Economic minister, founder with Bank of England chief Montague Norman of the Bank of International Settlements, Basel, used for the Versailles WWI reparations which led to WWII.
NSDAP election money from Norman and Prescott Bush (granpa) of Harriman Bros, paid for the regime change in 1933. Liberal economist Abba Lerner blurted out if Germany had accepted Schacht’s austerity, Hitler would not have been necessary.
Fast forward to 2014 – Nuland admitted then $5 billion for the Maidan coup, and billions later. Now Biden sends $30 billion.
Sanctions are bankers boys pranks.
And now the bankers know full well they are utterly and irredeemably bankrupt. $2 quadrillion nominal unpayable debt makes the Versailles debt look like peanuts. So they go for global austerity, Reset, and cannot accept Russia and China and India not playing along, and presenting an alternative to their defunct, fossil, bankrupt swamp.
To deNazify, the transatlantic financial system must be reorganized, otherwise well funded bankers boys and girls will pop up again.
And look at the current British Monarch practicing :
Their Royal Heilness – credit The Sun 12,826 views Jul 19, 2015
Never heard of the Blueshirts ?
That is the origin of the Fine Gael Party in Ireland.
The more you learn, the less you come to realise you know.
Differentiating between good, potential for good, looking for Mr Goodbar, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Good Lord, Lost Cause, Horsemen of The Apocalypse, The Evil Dead and plain old Evil is not as simple as it used to be.
Thankfully as a rule of thumb, anything sponsored/propped-up/supported by Uncle Sham is EVIL, is a given.
I reference ‘Lords of Finance’ by Liaquat Ahamed where the dandy Montague Norman (BoE), Hjalmar Schacht (Reichstag ), Benjamin Strong (Bankers Trust US, all but JP Morgan bar in name, US Fed Reserve NY) and Emile Moreau (Banque du France ) and the relationships between these Central Banks.
What’s interesting is the Bretton Woods Conference in 1944 where John Maynard Keynes (UK’s Senior Advisor/Economist) is working closely for a few years with Dr. Harry Dexter White ( Chief International Economist US Treasury ) who’s outed as a Soviet Spy and Jewish. The proposed new monetary system being discussed was not the brainchild of a declining Britain (off the gold standard and very weak ) nor by the new rising power America (FDR nationalised/confiscated all US held gold held by Corp/private ) but proposed a few years earlier by Adolf Hitler.
Also Mount Washington Hotel, New Hampshire, the venue of The Bretton Woods Conference where 730 delegates from 40+ countries, including Russia & China, was not the first choice venue, the larger hotels didn’t accept Jews and considering the US Treasury Secretary and Chief International Economist to the Treasury were Jews this wasn’t workable.
The Zionists-Jews have come a long way, 80 years ago treated similarly to Africans/Asians. They know how to play/game the system that they’re overrepresented 5000% in positions of Power within the Anglo-Saxon sphere.
The Chinese/other Asian groups though have seen an even more momentous rise in those 80 years and are on an exponential upward trajectory.
Africa remains a basket case despite being rich in mineral ores, South America similarly , both subject to excessive corruption initiated by US- European skulduggery propping up ruling elites. Those Elites (oligarchs )are happy to maintain the current status quo.
Which finally leads me to Russia (RF). Russia is a sleeping giant who are well placed to assume their rightful position at the top of the economic ladder. The developing world sees their opportunity to escape from US-European shackles. Once they get an opportunity, unlike the US-European general publics they will get out the burning tyres and destroy most elites who haven’t yet fled.
It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So.
Henry Morgenthau, Jr. and Dexter White imposed on the British Empire the dominance of the dollar and gold, directly against British insistence that there be no international arrangement which did not recognize the British Empire, as it then existed under British policy dominance. That was the end of the Sterling Block and the British Empire.
Today Rublegas, Ruble-Rupee, Ruble-Renminbi are ending an Empire. This is not a religious issue, unless one adores monetarism.
the west cannot erase this. This is the most damning evidence to always mention!
eight (8!) years of ukr-nazi control of the UKR police at every level in the country, and by the same thug chosen by cia/mi6 to last across pres.administrations…
==UKR interior minister 2014->july 2021: Arsen_Avakov==
== citation ==
In November 2014, Ukraine’s chief rabbi Yaakov Bleich condemned
Avakov’s appointment of Azov Battalion deputy commander and leading
Patriot of Ukraine member Vadym Troyan as Kyiv Oblast police chief,
and demanded that “if the interior minister continues to appoint
people of questionable repute and ideologies tainted with fascism and
right-wing extremism, the interior minister should be replaced.”
== citation ==
In 2017, a paramilitary group called the National Militia (Natsionalni
Druzhyny), closely linked to the Azov movement, was formed. Its stated
aim is to assist law enforcement agencies, which is allowed under
Ukrainian law, and it has conducted street patrols. In March
2019, its membership was reportedly “in the low thousands”.
In June 2015, the Canadian defence minister declared that Canadian
forces would not provide training or support to Azov Battalion. In
2018, the U.S. House of Representatives also passed a provision
blocking any training of Azov members by American forces, citing its
The House had previously passed amendments
banning support of Azov between 2014 and 2017, but due to pressure
from The Pentagon, the amendments were quietly lifted. This
was protested by the Simon Wiesenthal Center which stated that lifting
the ban highlighted the danger of Holocaust distortion in Ukraine.
This is an important read:
Canada and the Banderites, by Thierry Meyssan (voltairenet.org)
Nazism is the rage word of today. there’s a lot to say about it that’s for sure, why did it rise to power, by what mechanism, what is it now, what was it before.
It never vanished but went quiet, appearing in different guises in different ways in different places, and largely recognized.. few knew that it had not disappeared. If the fact was mentioned 25 years ago, intelligent people mostly looked vacant. Clever huh?
The article is excellent as it expresses how the end result of the main incubation period storms out of nowhere; evil fascism has appeared as good Nazism, noble nazism now walks among us…
Many who shuddered at the holocaust and never understood how it could have happened, nor that fascism never vanished, are now left in a rather tricky position…
We have celebrated Victory Day, admire Putin, Lavrov and others, but does Russia’s war on Nazism ideology require collective brain storming to meet reversed Nazi narratives ?
The terrain has changed, the delusion factor has assumed enormous power, but it should be possible, it has be, if Russia can equal the cleverness of Satan, and brave western minds meet and support this, why not?
As always, interesting reading the article and comments. I feel too much discussion and opinion about a label for something. We live in a multi-lingual World and even within languages, designations for types of people or particular dogmas have a variety of changeable meanings to different people.
We also live in a World where behaviour which is completely unacceptable when directed towards “us” is entirely justifiable when directed against “them”. Hence the crimes prosecuted at Nuremberg were crimes not for their nature, but for whom they were perceived to be directed against. The “humanity” against which those crimes were committed is no more inclusive than the “all men” who are supposedly born equal in the US Declaration of Independence.
There are some exceptions contributing here, but most people naturally perceive actions taken by the “us” that they feel part of, are done for the general good, and actions taken by “them” are generally bad. Then we find labels that fit the prejudice, with a strong conviction that the label can never apply to “us”, whatever “we” do. Humans are all limited by human nature.
Russia is not going to convince their western “partners” that many Ukranians are “Nazi” because it is an abstract term used in a prejudicial way (as is “partners” in this context). It just leads to the spurious statements and comparisons such as members of certain religions cannot be Nazi by definition. It’s playing into the West’s hands.
Labels and designations will be less important when the facts on the ground reflect Russia’s objectives. This is the only goal that should be occupying the leaders.
” It’s playing into the West’s hands.”
By design or by default in which mixtures, predicated upon which purposes and perceptions of :
” We live in a multi-lingual World and even within languages, designations for types of people or particular dogmas have a variety of changeable meanings to different people.”, including that contexts and words are catalysts of connotations ?
“Labels and designations will be less important when the facts on the ground reflect Russia’s objectives.”
Unlikely since reliance on interpretation will be to some degree will remain predicated on contexts and words being catalysts of connotations thereby facilitating the varying half-lives of ideologies.
Or in perhaps a simpler form ?
In 1991 why did some cross the road to Children’s World to stock up on mirrors?
As an encouragement – think of a song popular in 1917 starting “Over there,over there” which had different connotations throughout the 1990’s over there.
“Russia is not going to convince their western “partners” that many Ukranians are “Nazi”
The usage of “partners” was by design from 1969 onwards in acknowledgement of the “partners” complicity in their own transcendence.
This informed the buying of mirrors by some in co-operation with the practices of others throughout the 1990’s, which facilitated vectors for the ongoing lateral process of the transcendences of “The Soviet Union” and “The United States of America” by the Russian Federation, sources of embarassment that some “partners” prefer not to perceive, such displacement tending to increase the “partners” hysteria.
The “partners” continue to co-operate in their own transcendence that some “partners” prefer not to perceive, such displacement tending to increase the “partners” hysteria.
Those of us who closely observed the 10 year War to Destroy Yugoslavia 1991 – 2001 saw the most bald faced lies being made by US media.
Extreme bald faced lies – it’s the US media bread and butter
“Now, just as Isis and Al Nusra are ‘moderate rebels’, the fascists of Azov are well-meaning nationalist warriors.”
The picture of the Russian diplomat with what looks like blood all over his head is very telling, the Nazis also figured prominently in the photo, they had blood on their hands!
PATRICK LAWRENCE: The US Bubble of Pretend
has a very keen observation about France’s Nazi collaborateur problem, a book and movie :
Ophuls’ : The Sorrow and the Pity
Note the eye, tear and swastika.
Something no-one wanted to talk about, published in 1969, movie banned until 1981.
“Now I understand what the young student long ago could not quite grasp. The French simply could not face Ophuls’ unyielding exposure of who they had been. Ophuls had punctured the enduring bubble of pretend within which they had lived for 25 years after the 1945 victory in Europe.”
Russia’s Putin, Lavrov… have unyieldingly exposed the pretend in the US, EU and Ukraine, and actually all of NATOstan.
“…Reichsleiter Martin Borman, through an emissary, informed a gathering of Nazi Industrialists in Strassbourg on August 10th 1944…….”The war cannot be won by us; we must take steps for a postwar commercial campaign.”
See… . Paul Manning’s ,”Martin Bormann…Nazi in Exile”.
Draw your own conclusions about whether they ever went away.
West just doesn’t want peace. Lets not forget Putin’s speech, where he very clearly stated the necessity of this special operation:
“As always, I attempted to bring about, by the peaceful method of making proposals for revision, an alteration of this intolerable position. It is a lie when the outside world says that we only tried to carry through our revisions by pressure. On my own initiative I have, not once but several times, made proposals for the revision of intolerable conditions. All these proposals, as you know, have been rejected – proposals for limitation of armaments and even, if necessary, disarmament, proposals for limitation of warmaking, proposals for the elimination of certain methods of modern warfare. You know the endless attempts I made for a peaceful clarification and understanding of the problem of Russia. It was all in vain. “
So basically, a nazi that hates Jews is bad, and a nazi that hates Russians is good. Got it, EU/US!
Perhaps one should point out that the otherwise useful article does not seem to distinguish clearly between fascism and Nazism. The fascism of Mussolini or Franco was not racist. Nazism is fascism plus racism, and not just run of the mill racial prejudice, but racism leading to criminal activity, in the worst case to genocide or as historians have recorded, to the holocaust, by far the worst genocide in human history.
Neo-Nazis are common in Germany, they flaunt Nazi insignia and pretend to admire Hitler. They are a danger, because if they are radicalized they may become criminal. This has happened in Germany, at least one politician has been murdered as well as a number of Turkish people. There are indications of collusion with law enforcement agencies.
The Nazi groups in Ukraine use insignia like the Wolfsangel, similar to the Swastika, the SS and other insignia. Russian soldiers look for such tattoos. Apparently the regular troops often have a detachment from these groups who are there to shoot any commander who would surrender in a hopeless situation. War crimes are documented.
In most countries East or West such elements would be excluded from service. Nato and the US/UK as well as Chancellor Scholz look the other way. The Israeli Foreign Minister Lapid is said to have complained about this to Foreign Minister Kuleba, who is said to not have returned telephone calls.
In a wider context Russophobia (a form of ethnic hatred which has been around for 10 or 20 years now, earlier masked as anti-communism) could be considered to be a form of racism. It arguably contributed to the civil war in Ukraine after 2014 with 14’000 casualties and the separation of the Donbass region. It certainly led to the failure of the Minsk Accords which were agreed to by the UN Security Council.
Arguably even American exceptionalism has similarities to the master race ideology of the Nazis. At least that will be the perception in many Third World countries like Vietnam, Afghanistan or Irak.
“Arguably even American exceptionalism has similarities to the master race ideology of the Nazis.”
That is the case.
” At least that will be the perception in many Third World countries like Vietnam, Afghanistan or Irak.”
Analysis suggests that this is more widespread than you perhaps perceive, and includes the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America” within which some are deemed to be more “exceptional” than others, which unlike Mr. Robert Burns did/does not widely appreciate “What a gift to gie us, to see oorselves as others see us.”
Hence the facilitation of lateral strategies to transcend coercive social relations by social relations based upon co-operation with increasing participation to facilitate a future, with the complicity of coercive social relations as “force multipliers”.
Elensky is the new Adolf.
2 lost souls, both “artistes”, but useless at the chosen course of life they led.
They get sponsored by big financial kingpins, get power and then go full Nazi, as their handlers expected.
Can there be any doubt that Hitler was placed in power, and his military were built from Western bankers giving him tons of money, all to attack Russia?
The Man in the High Castle…
From an economic point of view, both Monopoly Capitalism and Socialism are the enemies of free competition, because competition and market forces, when not « concentrated » in the same hands, allow others to prosper and, above all, to be independent. A communist government can organize social control in such a way as to guarantee and protect the concentration of wealth; the communist government can give cartels control of raw materials and markets, and give them big contracts and go into endless debt with them.
Each sector of the economy is ultimately controlled by a handful of cartels.
Today, this Cartel is that of the central banks, the pivotal, fundamental element of the world monetary system. The central bank cartel represents the ultimate monopoly. He enjoys a monopoly on the credit of governments, and his goal is to convert this monopoly into an exclusive monopoly on everything: politics, culture, economy, religion etc.
By taking control of currencies, these « powers of money » took control of economies since they were able to decide, in complete autonomy and discretion, on the allocation of monetary resources.
Currently, the BIS (Bank for International Settlements), located in Switzerland, is the central bank of central banks.
The BRI was created at the very beginning of the 1920s by an initiative:
– of Haljmar Schacht (who was then a junior official with the German banking authority created by the allies at the end of the 1st World War and who became Minister of the Economy of the Third Reich from 1934 to 1939),
– Norman Montagu (Governor of the Central Bank of England),
– of J-P Morgan and their common intermediary John Foster Dulles (the United States Secretary of State).
Also, what would become the BRI were originally German-based, British-led international cartels that were created in the 1920s. The two main cartels were the « IG Farben » chemical trust and the International Steel Cartel.
The history of this cartel is very interesting, because there is a very close interweaving of German and Anglo-Saxon interests: « IG Farben » was notably known for having financed Adolf Hitler’s campaign and for having developed Zyklon B, the gas death chambers.
This cartel was associated with the « new economic order », ancestor of the « New World Order », already sought after by Nazi Germany. Concretely, without the BRI, Nazi Germany would never have been able to finance its war preparations. The BRI was thus the main labor machine of the Second World War.
Note that Marx’s communism is a « mirror image » of Hitler’s Nazism: both were created by the central banking cartel, and both are socialists. The only difference is that one exalts race while the other emphasizes social class.
Blog (French) : https://livresdefemmeslivresdeverites.blogspot.com/
” free competition”
Competition is never free; including of consequences.
That opponents are constantly engaged in competition limits their cooperations to cooperations by coercion, thereby facilitating force reduction and transcendence despite myths such as:
” when not « concentrated » in the same hands, allow others to prosper and, above all, to be independent” known to some as “The American Dream”.