I decided to post this short update to let you know that I am trying to take just a little time off to recover from a regular (non-COVID19) flu. Mostly, I am still exhausted and I need to rest a bit. Still, since the world does not stop rotating for yours truly, here area few comments I want to share with you about different matters and I post that here, instead of my weekly analysis, to give these announcements more visibility.
1) Telegram: as I have mentioned in the past, it turns out that a good friend has created a Telegram channel for the Saker blog. All that friend did is to make it possible for Telegram to (almost) immediately post a link and a short blurb for each item we post on the Saker Blog. This is a terrific idea and I want to bring that to your collective attention. But there is more: with this friend we have agreed that from now (well, in the near future) on I will use this official “Saker Telegram Channel” to share quick news, comments, reactions, etc. with you. So please download either the Telegram app (from here: https://telegram.org/apps#mobile-apps) or the Telegram extension (from here: https://telegram.org/apps#web-apps) and sign up to this channel:
One more IMPORTANT thing: I plan to cancel my mailing list, which I very rarely used anyway. If you are on that mailing list, or if you would want to be on it, please now join my Telegram channel which, from now on, will serve as a replacement for my mailing list. So you need to sign up!
I hope that this new capability will prove useful to the Saker Community!
2) Putin: yup, they did it. Courtesy of a constitutional amendment proposed by the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, now allows Putin to run again and, apparently, for as many times as he wants. So what do I think about that? Well, I never liked any term limits, especially not for Russia, but, more relevantly, I think that this is the wrong problem. The real problem is not how many times Putin will be reelected and as far as I am concerned, I would be happy to see him as “President for life”. The real problem is double:
- Putin is a one man show, not a stable system, which is what Russia truly needs.
- There are no viable successors to Putin (at least none that I know of).
And for these two reasons, yes, allowing Putin to run again is the correct decision, but all for the wrong reasons. Generally, the proposed changes to the Russian Constitution are definitely a step in the right direction towards making modern Russia a more viable system, but it is not enough. What Russia really needs is a patriotic opposition and that can only come through new and better (more parties, more new faces) elections.
3) COVID19: I have been following this virus, but I don’t feel that I can say much about it, at least not about the medical aspects. Still, for all those who claim it to be a bioweapon, I very much doubt it. First, modern militaries do not need bioweapons simply because they are very hard to use and because if you get caught using it, you will land in instant political hell. Besides, a bioweapon would have a much higher mortality rate (1%-6% should be laughable for a bioweapon). Many others disagree (see, for example, here: https://saker.community/topic/protocol-non-pharmaceutical-for-covid-19-for-consideration/) so don’t take my word for it. Personally, I am much more concerned about the social and economic consequences, especially while living in the USA whose “healthcare” system is somewhere in between terrible and non-existent. Besides the usual things to stock up on in preparation of social unrest (water, food, meds, guns, ammo, energy, transportation, medical emergency gear such as a CAT (Combat Application Tourniquet), hemostatic powder and bandages, etc.) I would recommend getting the few meds which can be used in supportive care such as Z-paks (for secondary bacterial infections), saline solution (if you know how to administer it), meds which can help your lungs (Colchicine, Ventolin, etc.), Vitamin C and whatever else a person, especially an elderly one, might need in terms of home-based supportive care. Also, check out the Saker Community link above for non-big-pharma options (which I personally neither endorse nor condemn) on how to resist this virus! If breathing becomes a problem, then your only chance is a hospital bed with a respirator. Bottom line: don’t panic, do what you can do, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. And always remember that your best protection is God and your Guardian Angel. Finally, none of that is competent medical advice, this is just what my family did. As they say, YMMV and speak with any medical specialist you trust.
4) Turkey vs Syria and Russia: as predicted, the Takfiri nutcases reject the agreement between Russia and Turkey and now call Erdogan a “traitor”. Which is truly excellent news, not because I want the deal to collapse, but because this state of affairs now sows discord in the Turkey-Takfiri alliance. Reports from the region say that the Turks are pulling their heavy gear back out across the border. This suggests that Turkey is not currently planning to protect the Takfiris. The said Takfiris, however, are still attacking Syrian government forces, unsuccessfully so far. The situation is too new and too fluid to call, but by early next week there will be much more clarity about where this is all headed, by then I hope to have a regular weekly analysis ready. The important thing is that as of *right now* there are no signs of a major flare-up, if something important happens, I will report it here.
5) Biden vs Bernie: in my strictly personal opinion, these two are both frauds. Total frauds. Bernie no less than Uncle Joe. Bernie Sanders is nothing else but a “Clinton Safety Valve” while Biden is just a Clinton front. The only Dem with a brain and a conscience, Tulsi Gabbard, will never be allowed to win the nomination. Sadly, I don’t expect her to run as an independent either (which she ought to do with a guy like Rand Paul as a VP). I know hear rumors about Biden possibly choosing Michelle Obama as VP. If that happens, the chances of civil war (at least in major urban areas) will go dramatically up. Logically, Trump ought to win, but any Trump victory will immediately be rejected by hysterical US pseudo-liberals and, yet again, civil unrest appears to be inevitable. Those of us residing in the USA better make contingency plans.
6) Oil wars: oh the sweet taste of revenge! Let’s see how the Idiot-in-Chief and his KSA nutcase counterpart will deal with Russia now :-) First Russia emerged as a military power, now she is about to start a very different kind of war against the Empire, and simply bombing Russia to smithereens is no longer an option. As I have mentioned it many times, I sure am an economy-ignoramus so don’t take my word for anything related to economic wars, but in my personal ignorance I see prices fluctuating but with a steady downward trend. The only thing stopping that trend now would be some *major* concessions to Russia, but I have a hard time imagining what Russia might want from the Empire (really, think about it – what does Russia want from the Empire in 2020?).
7) My kinda-open-thread thingie: I invite you all to share your comments ONLY on either one of the topics listed above: Saker Telegram channel, Putin forever, COVID19, Turkey vs Syria, US primaries, oil wars. Please do NOT flood the comments section with anything distracting from these topics. If I have time and energy, I might join in :-)
Still, trolls will be purged as usual, so please don’t abuse it.
Now your turn, chime in on any and all of the topics I mentioned.
Hugs and cheers,
UPDATE1: I just forced myself to listen to the Idiot-in-Chief telling us that the US is the greatest nation in the galaxy, it has the strongest economy, the best medical care, the best EVERYTHING!!! Merica’ is the best, rah rah rah. That’s actually scary. In the USA the flagwaving is always in inverse proportion to real achievements or successes. The more they wave them, the worse things are in reality. About the actual measures, I think that the 30 day ban of people and (so he said) cargo from Europe is too little too late, the virus is already all over the USA, and will only further contribute to the social and economic crisis. The exclusion of the UK shows the real motives behind this move: politics. Why? As of March 11 2020, a total of 27,476 people in the UK have been tested for COVID-19, with 460 testing positive for the illness. Six patients in the UK who tested positive for COVID-19 have died (source); not to mention that 27’476 people have been tested from a population of the UK (just under 68 MILLION people). That is not huge, but remember how big Heathrow, Gatwick and the other UK airports are? What about flights from Europe to Canada or Mexico? I also notice that Trump has made no promises about testing kits, ICU beds, respirators or, especially, to the number of beds currently available vs the projected number of critically sick people in, say, 30 days. Frankly, I have exactly ZERO trust in the local, state or, especially, the federal authorities: they are mostly corrupt AND underfunded, they are typically demoralized and fantastically incompetent (just look at the morons, say, the USPS hires, it’s both comical and outright scary). All we can do now is wait and hope that the kind of “federal assistance” we all will get won’t be like during Hurricane Katrina. I am not holding my breath.
BEGIN SILLY JOKE (I think of it as “levity in a time of crisis”)
Finally, my idea of a “brilliant Trump plan”: promise small businesses all sorts of money, but ONLY if the coronovirus is PROVEN to be the cause. Then don’t order “too many” testing kits. If there are too many, seize them in requisitions “to help hospitals” and “to stop Mexicans” or, worse, Muslim (!) from bringing the virus in. No proof, no money. Brilliant no?
Okay, not brilliant. But that is exactly the kind of crap the people of the USA expect from “their” federal government.
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UPDATE2: I just had a great idea: I hope that China (or Russia or, even better, Iran) develop a vaccine (or treatment) and then I hope they agree to sell to the USA, but for a very steep price. Let’s see capitalism do something right (for once!). I am not holding my breath too much here, but hope dies last ;-)
Okay everybody – “see you” tomorrow!
If Bernie is real; ie. not sheep-dogging for Hillary again, he can prove it by dropping out immediately and throwing his delegates to Tulsi so she can debate Joe Biden on Sunday; then watch the fur fly. ….last chance for the left.
Seriously, the only positive play left for Bernie, (if positive change is his intent )would be to immediately drop out and throw a “Hail Tulsi Pass” downfield ahead of the Sunday debate.
That’s a great idea, however, Tulsi has defended Bernie several times, and Bernie has never defended Tulsi to my knowledge. Certainly not by demanding that she be part of the debates. I don’t think Bernie’s a fraud. I think he just doesn’t have the fighting spirit needed in this existential struggle.
He also misdiagnoses the problem since he sees Trump as the problem, not the System. And certainly not the DNC.
Bernie is a coward, and a traitor to himself. Since 2016 (…) Lately on Fox news when asked a direct question about Biden’s mental health he started with a “Joe and I are good friends” and didn’t even answer the question. Sadly yours it’s only a wet dream.
you expected him to say joe is crazy on tv? would you do that? joe is crazy but its not something you pointing in tv show
And therein lies the key to maintaining herd control, make uncomfortable the public telling of truths. Comply always with social mores. If Bernie had a hair on his ass he would have confirmed what we all already know, Biden is a scary candidate on may levels.
I am no economist, but I can see the potential for the oil wars to result in an avalanche of bankruptcies in the US.
If shale-oil companies go out kaput, banks might not be able to collect loans resulting in a financial seppuku, with insurances following right behind them, and pension investment funds obliterated, resulting in sluggish sales, driving further further bankruptcies. Oh my, the following weeks would be rather interesting.
As I said, I am no economist; so, if anyone would be able to illuminate me, I would appreciate it.
As I got closer to retirement I started studying economics very carefully so that I could invest and protected the monies that I had saved.
The scenario you describe is exactly what frightens me. You are describing cascading defaults in an interconnected system. With the risk that the entire system might go down.
Now, it would be one thing if the system was basically sound and robustly strong and could withstand a major shock – but it is not. It is a rotting corpse of misfeasance and malfeasance. I am going to give you just one example that I didn’t even know about until last night.
A lot of people are trading in ETF’s. These are basically funds which take investor’s money and invests the money in securities based upon that fund’s specific design. For instance, if you invest in a ETF designed to be “energy index stock” fund, this is what is supposed to happen. The fund manager is supposed to use the money you invest to buy a number of energy stocks whose overall composition would be representative of a balanced portfolio for the energy industry. If, later, you want to take you money out of the fund this is how it is supposed to work. You sell your ETF shares back to the fund. The fund manager then sells some of the energy stock and pays you your money (with added profits or minus losses as the case may be).
That (though oversimplified) is how it is supposed to work.
In actuality, some of those ETF’s own virtually nothing. All they own is a little cash and some derivatives. If someone asks for their money back, they use cash on hand to pay them based their investment with “added profits or minus losses” as calculated on a simulation of what their “profits and losses” would be if, in fact, the ETF’s had actually owned those stocks – which they do not. It is sort of like a Ponzi scheme where one person’s investment is used to pay off another investor that “cashes out.” The only difference from a true Ponzi scheme are the derivatives. Derivatives – in this example – are basically promises made by financial institutions to pay money to insure a specific type of trade under specific circumstances. Thus, if there are mass withdrawals from the ETF and there is not enough cash on hand to pay back investors, the derivative is supposed to make good on the obligation. The derivative is sort of like an insurance policy to cover unusual occurrences such as mass withdrawals.
Of course, that scheme only works if the person obligated to make good on the derivative is solvent – which in a financial crisis triggering mass withdrawals from ETFs – is extremely unlikely. The person obligated to pay off the derivative would – in a financial crisis – be overwhelmed by claims from all of the holders of derivatives that organization had issued.
That is just one example of probably hundreds, if not thousands, of ways in which the interconnected pieces of the financial system could cascade into mass failure in a crisis.
just read these 3 books and you will have a pretty good grip on the subject:
and you will learn more than I have while studying for my degree in economics (in England).
Also watch this prophetic video: it comes in a few parts
James Goldsmith got everything right and the dumb Clinton adviser who got everything wrong has been rewarded with professorship at Berkeley Uni for her stupidity
Socialism for businesses big and small. Jeeze, even big ag got a handout.
And the payroll tax holiday is just that, a holiday. Wage earners will still have to pick up the tab next year when they file tax returns.
Yep, Socialism for business and brutal Capitalism for us plebes.
please don’t confuse Socialism and Fascism.
They ARE very different.
Saker, he didn´t confuse socialism and fascism. He´s speaking about government subsidies for business world. Neo-liberal economic system is like a hybrid monster, mix of socialism and capitalism, born from the ruins of true capitalism.
When Fukuyama wrote his thesis about the end of the history, in reality he was describing the end of the capitalism, final phase of capitalism. Capitalism cant´t live anymore without subsidies, it´s like an old, senile human being, close to death.
That´s because capitalism can´t live without constant economical growth. And if it will reach it´s natural limits, then something must be done to preserve it. This is the core of every problem in the West. Also changes in societies, globalization etc. roots to the demise of capitalism.
I agree, just look at the price when you tank up next time. Drivers pay heavy duty to support those thieves, whether it be shale or tar sands. Why are they still in business. Their cost to manufacture oil from shale and tar sands was said to be $70/bl, now it’s is said to be $50/bl. Russia’s cost to manufacture used to be $10/bl now they say it’s $20/bl. Someone is lying like $hit to keep them alive. As for the Russian oil, why did the cost go up, when Russian Ruble is still at about 70rbl/$? This is how you play word games and mess with people’s heads while you make them pay subsidy at the pump. Some older people may remember the price of gas being $0.27/imp.gal. The cost of oil was not lesser than it’s today at $30/bl, so think about it. Also, why Iranians or KSA’ians pay $0.08/l? Why not Americans or Canadians, since they are also the producers. Ah, as someone said they can afford it.
I was surprised the other day when looking through some old cheques. Thirty years ago, I was filling up my car’s tank for £15.
My grocery bills haven’t changed much since then, but petrol now costs about 5-6 times as much.
Oil prices vary widely based on the quality of the crude. Canada is still supplying low grade crudes(20-25 bbl) under Russian prices(29-31 bbl) ref below. What happened on Monday was a kind of perfect storm, 8% lower prices on high quality crude that US Shale Industry could no longer tolerate and maintain credit ability to pay back their financiers. The banks, “financiers” were already bleeding due to record low yields on 10 and 30 USTs, inadequate liquidity (short term operating cash) hence the FRBs incredible 82 billion liquidity bailout last week, and x2 this week.
The great myth Trump’s “World Greatest Economy in the History of the World”, is just beginning to be exposed as a big fat ugly stock bubble that was popped with three pins, record UST low yields, 8% drop in high yield crude, and a liquidity crisis. The dollar index did stabilize a bit the other day, but this is the fastest financial down slope in history – truly unique.
Advice – have cash on hand, a bank account, and a credit union account, some silver and gold low denomination coins. Dodd Frank changed FDIC very dramatically through its section II – Orderly Liquidation Authority, you may not see cash if a bank fails – some IOUs or stock issuances.
On Dodd-Frank and OLA, the depositor is now defined as a creditor of the institution.
Max Keiser is a genius and his show is very informative.
COVID-19 is a bio-weapon released by a bio-terrorist, it’s goal is to shut down the world’s manufacturing hub and “correct” the aging demographics in the West. The virus infects ACE-2 receptor cells in the lungs; East Asians and the elderly have the highest number of cells in the lungs.
People don’t eat bats in Big City Wuhan, it is a rural thing.
Patient 0 has not been found, virologists have sequenced the genome of all the different COVID-19 strains and approximated the ancestor of these strains to have emerged somewhere between mid november and mid december. They have not found the ancestor strain.
The virus broke out all over Wuhan in widely divergent locations. At the same time, within hours, the virus broke out in the North of Wuhan, the East of Wuhan, the South of Wuhan, and the Western sections of Wuhan. One of the virus carriers, ended up infecting the seafood market.
Military Olympics in Wuhan in late October 2019.
The Chinese claim the inattentive attitude and disproportionately below average results of American athletes in the game indicate they might have been in for other purposes and they might actually be bio-warfare operatives, and that their place of residence during their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the first known cluster of cases occurred.
CDC shut down Deadly Germ Research at Army Lab (Fort Detrick) citing National Security reasons in August 2019: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html
With all due respect, none of you arguments amounts to anything more than a simple correlation. Properly speaking, you need to establish at least a couple of the following things:
a) That is manufactured with an intent to be used as weapon, or
b) That was harvested in the wild with an intent to be used as weapon,
c) There is a motive (to explain why it was used)
d) A plausible mechanism how it achieves this goal
e) That it is controllable enough to achieve the motive
f) That is more cost-effective than other ways to achieve the stated motive
g) And how does it fit within the overall state strategy
Establishing intent is notoriously difficult.
And as Saker wrote, the problem #01 with bioweapons is that they are inherently uncontrollable; which is why the WHO had declared COVID-19 to be a pandemic. And problem #02 with bioweapons are that, if exposed as such, have the potential for severe political blow-back.
It definitely looks like a bioweapon, just not the cold war type. You really don’t need a high case fatality rate, what you want is to cripple your opponents infrastructure which CoV-SARS-2 does pretty amazingly. Up to 14 days incubation, in some cases over 20, pre- and asymptomatic spread and very high infectivity makes sure it can’t be contained. It also looks like a cold/flu at first but once it enters the pneumonia stage you’re looking at an average of 2,5 weeks hospitalization and even intensive care. The numbers out of China are downplayed (lots of deaths from “viral pneumonia” or other unspecified causes) and what they call mild cases are “just” pneumonia and high fever, serious cases are hypoxia with need for ventilation while critical cases are respiratory and organ failure. The ACE2 receptor the virus uses to infiltrate cells are in the lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, small intestine and even the linings of your veins and arteries; it is also a critical regulatory mechanism for blood pressure and heart function. There is even the possibility of antibody dependent enhancement and infiltration of the CNS with infection of the brainstem leading to neurological symptoms as shown in studies and autopsies out of China, which however still needs more research at this point. You also have to consider that there are already multiple strains out there, in northern Italy they’re doing triage at this point.
What this doesn’t say however is if the release was intentional, everything that humans work on is prone to error and accidents so who knows. Maybe it’s some sort of population control that our wonderful elites have cooked up, maybe it’s supposed to give an excuse for the crash of our failing economic system, maybe to justify “medical martial law” and consolidation of power. Maybe it’s some shadowy group trying to destroy China before it becomes too powerful, maybe an experiment of the Chinese themselves that made its way out of a lab, either from research into bioweapons or medicine. After all, the vaccine against SARS 1 was a complete failure due to antibody dependent enhancement.
In the end this virus is the perfect storm for our strained economic and medical infrastructure and our dear leaders did nothing but sit on their hands and wait for it to arrive. There is always a chance it just randomly occured in a bat somewhere out there but it’s very small, it looks like a man-made chimera; intent however is impossible to proof by just looking at the virus itself.
You really don’t need a high case fatality rate, what you want is to cripple your opponents infrastructure which CoV-SARS-2 does pretty amazingly
are you saying that the Chinese built and then released it?
Kuz the “Red Commie” Chinese government sure showed a superb response to the virus (western China-bashing propaganda notwithstanding). The Chinese infrastructure is far, FAR, more resilient than the “just on time” western capitalist infrastructure. Russia too did WAAAAY better than anybody in the West.
You might want to revisit your views about China ;-)
Built it, no idea. I don’t think they released it onto their own people intentionally but accidents happen and you could have a nefarious actor inside of a lab as well (I guess that depends on the quality of their vetting process which is probably very good for this kind of lab).
I think I didn’t express myself very well, I have no ill will against China and actually agree that China’s reaction to the outbreak has been on point, only beaten by countries like Singapore, while we in the West are looking at an absolute nightmare with our incompetent and careless “leadership”. The only reaction from Merkel for example was to “warn” that 60-70% of the country are going to catch it as if she was not in charge.
I wouldn’t put it beyond some of the globalist elites to happily sacrifice a chunk of our populations (the term “useless eaters” comes to mind) in order to distract from the failure of our financialized economic systems and introduce more state power in the face of rising resistance in Europe and elsewhere, but that’s pretty much speculation. I was commenting on the disease itself, not about the intentional or accidental nature of its release/appearance.
Saker, Look what’s going on.
All at the same same, chinese-city’s in Iran, Italy, and Wuhan(China) were infected in October/December, boom.
There are huge Chinese city’s all over Africa, and many in Israel, and we don’t hear about massive infections. Why?
[ FYI, Chinese city’s in Italy been there 30+ years, in Africa 20+ years, in Israel now going on 10+ years; Almost all huge mega-projects in Israel are now done by chinese engineer/labor teams, think the giant port in Ashdod, one of the deepest/largest in the world ]
In all cases in Central & North Italy the feed of the virus is-was from 100% Chinese city’s in those regions. The question nobody is asking is how did ‘those’ Chinese get infected? I’m talking city’s with 10,000 people, they had them 30 years ago outside of Florence to make “Gucci” that said “Made in Italy”, but by Chinese peasants who lived in flats. Now 30 years later, these Chinese factory city’s are all over. This is what feed the virus to the Italian people ( non-chinese )
There are no chinese city’s ( think foxconn ) around the bay-area, so how can your models be correct??
The reason that thing got out of control, is that 1,000’s of Chinese fled these city’s months ago, and now most of Europe is infected.
In USA the feed seems to be infected people abroad returning to the USA as carriers, while the chinese city’s in Italy were seeded back in Dec-2019 with the virus, just like Wuhan.
I have a cute question for everyone: How do you get covid problem in American prisons, etc. Does anyone suggest that there are many “Chinese inmates are being visited by infected friends, really “? Yet, even Italian prisons have the same problem. Coincident?
In my mind, the virus was introduced artificially, and the Chinese were convenient “culprit”. Also, how do you force China to stop shipping goods and force it to it’s knees? China did not collaborate with Trump, therefore some other method had to be introduced? So, now we hear about Chinese economy stalling, coincident? Just thinking. Forgive the conspiracy theories.
Apparently you do not understand that a declining and decadent empire who has to give away their super power status to a rival, such a declining empire will go crazy and take down their whole world with them. Bio-warfare is cheaper than nuclear warfare.
Ever head or “Made in China 2025”? The clock is ticking for the empire.
SARS2 has a S ( HIV like) spike protein which SARS1 did not have. It has an protein packaging mechanism similar to HIV; it sneaks into a cell bypassing the immune system alarm and is 100x more infectious than SARS1.
Don’t know if this bio-warfare was condoned by the top though.
It is not just correlation, every Asian, even the Japanese and Taiwanese, knows this was a bio-terrorist attack from the USA. They even make a report about this on TV! Even China government knows this, they refuse to cooperate with the US on the virus outbreak.
You do not understand this. They just cannot find patient 0 and the ancestor of the various strains of COVID-19!
The outbreak was just after the Olympics, not in 1 place, but in east, west ,south and north Wuhan at the SAME TIME!
Apparently you do not understand that…
How about a little change in tone here.
You are not the world’s biggest genius (your comments prove that!) and the rest of us are not the dumbest people on the planet.
So how about showing the rest of us a minimal courtesy?
Nonetheless, there are 44 level 4 bioweapon research labs scattered all over the world. And just like nukes—no one really truly wants to use what is in them . But they have them—everyone does.
No one can prove whether the viral agent escaped accidentally or deliberately. The fact is these labs should be banned and the research done in them terminated immediately. But no one wants to have that discussion and there has been a silencing of academic voices especially those of bioweapon experts and virologists.
I’ve stopped discussing with people who have no medical expertise but who wish to pontificate or experience with acute respiratory disease . Time will tell and we shall see just who dies, what the course of the disease is, how many people end up in acute ARDS on ventilators and just what the social cost is. Hopefully I am “dead” wrong….no pun intended…and that this is just an overblown event much loved by our overlords to lord it over us. The Chinese did not think so nor did the Russians.
“Nonetheless, there are 44 level 4 bioweapon research labs scattered all over the world”.
As a matter of interest, who owns them?
I only ask because I want to know.
Curious minds want to know. and that is good enough!!
Thanks. Unfortunately I cannot see the map. “Google failed to connect”.
The map also did not display for me.
Good rebuttal, Belisarius. I see so many posts in different forums claiming COVID-19 is a bioweapon but absolutely no persuasive evidence to support that claim. Conjecture and reading too much into coincidence/correlation are not synonyms for proof.
As Carl Sagan used to say: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
So, you made the extraordinary claims.
Now can we ask for your *EVIDENCE*
Ever since the CIA’s foundation – if not before – the Washington clique have always aimed at “plausible deniability”.
Sometimes it’s a lot more plausible than other times. But the deniability is always there, so that when all the MSM echo the government story, most of the broad masses will buy in to it.
So we are unlikely to find any “smoking gun” evidence. It’s more likely to be circumstantial.
But if you don’t want to be suspected of using bioweapons, perhaps you shouldn’t allocate funding for bioweapons, collect state-of-the-art information about bioweapon research, or collect thousands of samples of your “antagonists’s” genetic material.
Especially if you have form through being the only government ever to drop nuclear bombs on civilians, using chemical agents on a massive scale, and being known to have tried infecting enemies with diseases carried by insects from the far side of the world.
Fair enough: This man has been an expert for years, published books and to my mind is a credible source. The concept of “gain of function” in this viral instrument is crucial to understanding that it just does not happen that fast in nature–the specificity of the site where it attacks, the unusually long incubation period ( no symptoms so it spreads l for a longer time).
Would I be speaking out of turn to suggest that the proven origin (Fort Detrick) of the Anthrax agent used to attack prominent Democrats and journalists shortly after 9-11 makes the current claims of malevolent covert action much less than extraordinary? The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, no? I think your fever is making you cranky — get some rest.
Not sure if this is connected with Covid-19 but it is quite interesting.
Acclaimed Harvard Scientist Is Arrested, Accused Of Lying About Ties To China
Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University’s Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, has been arrested and criminally charged with making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the U.S. Defense Department about his ties to a Chinese government program to recruit foreign scientists and researchers.
On its website, the Lieber Research Group at Harvard says its work is meant “to push scientific boundaries in biology and medicine.”
Also in Iran, their number one customer is China,
The engineers who run the drilling platforms are chinese teams there are chinese city’s all over Iran
They infected Iran’s chinese city’s in October, in early January they killed Soleimani, that caused massive meetings between elite MIL in Iran&China, the Chinese leaders had already been infected ( most likely at Wuhan games ), but didn’t know, the Iran leaders didn’t know
By February virus is breaking out all over Iran, and had jumped from Chinese to Iranian people, now March the virus is all over Iran, just like Italy, 100% same means and method of dispersal
Why did Trump decide to destroy Italy too? I think it was because he was dissed when he was sword-dancing in Saudi, later he traveled to Italy and the Pope treated him & wife like trailer-trash, its typical Trump to do something like this the Man is a Mafia Don, who loves the Vendetta; Trump in his stupidity of course targeted North Itally who hates the mob ( south-Italy ), trouble is the virus has already jumped to the south of Italy
The second reason that Italy is to be destroyed is they signed on to the Russian pipeline deal and that pissed off Trump
Dave – Notice all world leaders and banks are blaming CoronaVirus for the financial ‘crisis’. Blame shifting is massive, a full on ‘red flag’ that you are correct. I could agree with you more on this.
World leaders and central banks do not want to take heat, they do not want their financial institutions replaced. I originally expected a massive kinetic war, but CoronaVirus looks like its doing just fine.
The big banks, Federal Reserve, and financial instruments which should be eliminated will be saved because well it was just ‘the CoronaVirus’.
The only possibility that worries me about the coronavirus epidemic is that, if it is a bioweapon, it might just be a “ranging shot”.
Step 1 would be to establish the required targetting and infectiousness.
Step 2 (reserved for time of war or a stealthy first strike) would be to replace the virus payload with something much more lethal.
Of course none of this would be any use if the virus leaps beyond the intended target population. Thanks to political correctness, it is very hard to know how many of the people infected or killed in the West are of Chinese descent.
Step 2 (reserved for time of war or a stealthy first strike) would be to replace the virus payload with something much more lethal
And how do you go about protection your own side (military and civilian)? We live in a massively interconnected world and if it appears in site X on day one, you can be sure that it will eventually show up everywhere. And if you develop any treatment and/or vaccine, you will thereby be confirming to the world that you did it. After that, you are dead, and not only politically
There is a reason why we still use the WW1-era word “blow-back” to describe such incidents. As then so it is now: nearly impossible to protect your own from biological weapons.
Unless it is “weaponized” by non-state actors or even state actors that don’t care about blow back and have more malevolent ambitions, and see different form of benefits that are not only on the plane of competition/conflict between states. In the long run, that cannot be a good strategy, but not many people care about long terms.
Of course, this is merely a speculation. In fantasy land we can invent many things. Unless there is good evidence, I would assume it’s an act of nature. It’s just the more healthy way to look at it.
Maybe COVED-19 doesn’t infect them like it does Humans?????
It does seem as if its been conclusively shown it came from the US… there are 5 types in the covid 19 and ony three of those are asian and one found only in America. This is ,i gather , the conclusion of Japanese and Chinese Scientists .
I think it highly unlikely that it would attack the Iranian leadership coincidentally, possibly with a stronger version , there are many coronavirus .
Of course even if it were proven to be deliberate… what response is there? Seriously ?
. Then the hype and press panic induction…..
some things are not provable and none the less self evident……
motive and means
Isreal and the US
I have actually read the relevant paper – NOT the Taiwanese presentation. It does not actually prove that the virus came from the USA, but what it does seem to prove (need more expertise to be definite) is that the original strain of virus (H38) was found in a very early USA patient. At a guess it was the 35 year old who was trialed on anti HIV drugs. That in itself was a bit suspicious but proves little.
SO this H38 (there is a similar option involving H3) is found ONLY in the US sample. It gave rise to H3 which is found in Early Australian, Belgian and UK samples and in Taiwan and Hubei. The Hubei sample presumably then gave rise to the main H1 strain which is the one found in the Wuhan epicentre. (Group c) and to two other subgroups found in Guangdong, and USA and group E and Goup D Taiwan, Australia, USA. It must be stressed here that these did not originate in US or Australia but were the strains found in early diagnosed cases.
The H3 strain also gave rise to the H13 strain which is found in Japan, USA and Guangdong (Group A). It is possible that H13 was the original strain (ie either H13 or H38) but NOT the Hubei H1 strain.
Now the H3 strain forms part of a very diverse group (often an indicator of age) called group B which is rarely founf in Hubei but is in the US, European and Australian samples.
Now what this all means is unclear BUT it seems likely the virus did not arise in Wuhan.
@ The Saker,
You ask / state, “And how do you go about protection your own side (military and civilian)?”
It appears you have fallen into the so called ‘good guys trap’, where you project your own high morals / ethics onto people or groups with little or any.
Many ‘good guys’ erroneously make the assumption that a given party actually cares about ethics / morals / own casulalties etc, because they do. However, sociopaths, idealists, and religious fanatics (which seem to make up the bulk of so called ‘Deep State’ for example) do not have the same form of morals and ethics ‘good guys’ have.
Indeed, even the ‘good guys’ can lose thier moral compass when indoctrination regarding saving thier nation from the ‘bad guys’ takes over. There are countless examples of this through history, including the nuclear programes.
More recently I have seen declasified documents which talk of “acceptable losses” when modelling the use or depIoyment of non-convntional weapons (such as Stuxnet, SARS, and even battlefield neutron devices), I can therefore well believe that a bio-weapon could be deployed, particularly during times of war, political subtefuge, or economic collapse with little or any concern for ‘collateral damage’ of any kind (particularly if the power brokers were in possesion of some protection from thier own weapons).
But moving back to Covid-19, much does not add up.
Although I have Degrees in Biological Sciences I must admit that I am perplexed by Covid-19. I have looked at data from a variety of sources and although there is Forensic quality evidence to support several arguments that Covid-19 is 1) A natural mutation, 2) The product of a laboratory (either pure research lab or weapon lab), my comparitively limited knowledge of virology and biological warfare, coupled to my awareness of the nature of the so called ‘Deep State’, causes me to look much more closely at the evidence suggesting (supporting actually) that Covid-19 is the product of a laboratory (either pure research lab or weapon lab).
From what I have seen so far, I can with 100% certainty state that ‘Covid-19 is a very complex virus’.
This of course does not say anything, other than it is about the only thing I and many other people can actually state with 100% certainty.
Is is Covid-19 the product of a lab? My instinct says yes, and there is considerable evidence to support this, but can I say I am 100% sure? No, of course not, in fact I can only give an educated guess.
Is Covid-19 a bio-weapon? No-one without access to a level 4 reseach facility can know this.
But I can speculate it is more likely than not some form of ‘bio-weapon’.
I need to qualify that speculation – It is important that people recognise that a bio-weapon does not have to be like Anthrax or VX (or a walking dead type zombie virus). A bio-weapon can be as simple as introducing salmonella or Escherichia coli into a restaurant frequented by your target. It may or may not be lethal depending upon the health of the target.
Also, many (most?) people are completely unaware of just how sophisticated a modern lab produced synthetic bio-weapon can be. Comparing a modern bio-weopon with say, Anthrax, would be like comparing a musket and lead ball with a rail-gun shooting smart-guided muntions. They are many generations apart.
Modern bio-weapons can be ‘programmed’ and ‘armed’ in ways that would appear like sci-fi to most people but which are actually ‘old hat’ to the Post-Doctoral types working in labs.
Indeed, a modern bio-weapon can take the extreme features of a natural virus – such as travelling and reproducing (undetected and assymptomatically) inside cells of an animal, quietly writing its own DNA code inside a cell (natural ‘retro-virus’ can do this remember – RNA makes DNA etc) to produce a ‘new virus’ which can then infect another animal in another way through a synthetic genetic code programmed in a lab (either RNA or DNA).
The more ‘sci-fi’ (but actually old science fact not fiction) aspects is that viruses can ‘self activate’ in contact with a specific genome – such as race or even an individual (like in natural zooanosis) or in the presence of an electromagnetic field of a certain type (this is why some conspiracy types go on about 5G so much).
Anyway, without going on with this all day, people simply need to be aware that modern RNA and DNA reseach and molecular engineering, coupled with ‘Deep State’ vaccine programes and medical research programmes can easily prepare and enable vectors and targets and produce highly specific (and variably lethal – or not) bio-weapons which are beyond the comprehension of most non-Biologists or non-sci-fi movie fans.
Finally, as for vaccines – these can also be very sophisticated bio-weapons in themselves (as countless conspiracy theorists – and even some medical doctors – have warned about for decades). Few people ever stop to consider what a vaccine actually is, how it was made, what it contains, and even what long term effect it has on your DNA or the DNA of your offspring, or even thier offspring. But moving back to Covid-19, if it is indeed a bio-weapon and not the result of an accidental release, it would be almost inconceivable to think that it was produced (much less released) without a mechanism to switch it off (aka ‘vaccine’ or antidote).
Ideally we need a PHD or Post Doctoral Biologist to comment on this but I hope the above helps anyway.
It appears you have fallen into the so called ‘good guys trap’, where you project your own high morals / ethics onto people or groups with little or any.
I simply know that you don’t win when your military and your economy tanks it’s “show over” for every regime. It is one thing to murder close to 3000 people in a false flag attack (you don’t give a damn about them) and quite another not to have ANY guarantee for your personal safety or the safety of the regime you benefit from.
morals/ethics have exactly NOTHING to do with this.
Every time I see the number 3000 in the Twin Towers takedown of 9-11, I want to scream out–There were 21,000 people who worked in the Towers and could have been killed that day. It just turned out that only 3000 died.
So the monstrous crime was intended to be 7x greater. Like 14 towers worth.
I tend to believe that ideologues and the psychopaths in government services would take millions of losses for some of their goals.
Such as nuking Russia (if all that would cost is 10 million or so Americans). The Russophobia is so deep and the psychosis is so profound, that the tradeoff at that level would be a green light for many of them.
This is why Putin has prepared for the complete destruction of the the US, all its capacities and all its allies.
Anything less would be temptation for the psychopaths who hate Russia.
Presently, NATO has been practicing for nuclear war in Kaliningrad. Would they kill a lot of Russians in Kaliningrad? The Poles drool at the thought. What stops them? Nukes on Iskander missiles.
Would the lunatics use bioweapons on Russia? Of course. Why else surround Russia with 16 biolabs? Why collect genetic samples from Russia (a recent USAF business opportunity delineated this operation)?
The US has been collecting Chinese DNA samples also.
The heir to Unit 731 of Imperial Japan in Harbin, China and the heir to Doctor Mengele of Nazi Germany is the US governmen, literally and historically.
There are plenty of psychopaths who would readily use bioweapons to achieve an end and not much care if blowback occurred. That’s what psychotics do. Especially when guided by sociopaths who empower them with policies and funding.
Just look at the connection of Israel with the South African government decades back. There’s plenty of evidence of these criminal governments working with bioweapon development. (Much less hiding Israel’s nuclear bomb testing back in the 50’s and 60’s.)
“The heir to Unit 731 of Imperial Japan in Harbin, China… is the US governmen, literally and historically”.
Indeed. Even the extremely biased Wikipedia openly admits that the US government pardoned the Japanese who conducted indescribably vile experiments, in return for their knowledge.
While the US government wished to defeat Japan, it shared the Japanese goal of destroying China and Chinese people.
The problem with this discussion is that it assumes that the perpetrators must be state actors of some form.
The ultimate result of this disease outbreak will be a financial armageddon. It will allow the globalist banking cartel to walk away from the absolute fluster cluck they have engineered throughout the western world, likely with ownership of huge swaths of capital plant at fire sale prices or less. That group have unlimited financial resources and the reach that those provide is such that engineering a bioweapon attack is well within their ability. And, how was it that Israel just fortuitously happened to have a vaccine nearly ready to go?
Remember the unexplained rash of microbiologist deaths back in the early 2000’s? Believing that series of events was a mere coincidence requires a huge degree of trust that I no longer possess.
Releasing a bioweapon makes sense if you have an antidote available, have an agenda that supports massive human depopulation and are the stewards of a financial system that requires a hard reset because it has done what all fiat money systems do and run to the end of its rope with nowhere to put its feet and you do not want to take responsibility.
Means, motive and opportunity.
Indeed, one of the things that has surprise me over the past week or so is how many of the elite are catching this. I wonder how proportionate it is of the actual population. I think they are more likely to jet around, meet lots of people, have to follow strict protocol and have much demand for their attention.
“More recently I have seen declasified documents which talk of “acceptable losses” when modelling the use or depIoyment of non-convntional weapons…”
Some light is cast on this in, for example, “The Doomsday Machine: Confessions Of A Nuclear War Planner” by Daniel Ellsberg (ISBN13: 978-1408889282).
‘But by 1961 virtually all SAC’s weapons were “thermonuclear weapons”…
‘It was that change, I discovered in 1961, that explained what had been a striking puzzle to me earlier in the year… I had seen successive estimates for Soviet casualties in general war that in the early years of the [fifties] seemed surprisingly “low” for the nuclear era: a few million deaths, then ten million, then up to thirteen million or so by 1955. But from that year to the next, 1956, there was a sudden tenfold jump in the estimates… to a hundred and fifty million Soviet dead. By 1960… the JCS forecast was for more than two hundred million in the Soviet bloc alone’. [page 269]
Not only was the US government in 1960 quite willing to kill more than 200 million Soviet and Chinese citizens, it had no qualms about killing virtually everyone in Europe too (from Soviet counterattacks and fallout) – and accepting tens of millions of US deaths.
The thing to remember is that while “Dr Strangelove” was a satire, it did not exaggerate in any way. Once military and political leaders start to think about general global war, thyey quickly come to accept “friendly” losses in the tens of millions, if they think their side has a good chance of winning.
In principle, you don’t need to protect your own people. Instead, you tailor the virus so that it is only (very) dangerous to a given target population.
The Chinese are ideal from that point of view, as they are genetically different enough to make a tailored virus theoretically possible. And they are also the biggest threat to the US empire. Russia is seen as a threat, but only because it can defend itself. China will actually eclipse and eventually dominate the West – unless it is stopped.
And, of course, “The United States Air Force’s 59th Medical Wing’s molecular biology branch recently was revealed to have been collecting specifically Russian RNA and synovial (connective) tissue samples, prompting fears in Russia of a possible US directed ethnic-specific bioweapons program”.
It seems very unlikely such efforts could be successful, as Russian genes are so varied and probably inseparable from US and European genes. But why not give it a shot anyway, the Washington creatures would argue. After all, it’s only taxpayers’ money.
“Confronting the thrat of ethnic bioweapons”
“Genetically engineered viruses may become the next generation of warfare”
‘China’s Coronavirus. “We Cannot Rule Out Man Made Origin of these Infections”’
You protect your “own side” by engineering the biogen to target specific genetic vulnerabilities of the “enemy”. The technologies to do this almost certainly exist by now, and in a serious war no one is concerned about moderate levels of “blowback”. I think we are seeing this now, and not for the first time. The next decade may bring refinements to selectively target Syrians, Jews, Kurds, Turks or even select politically active family groups (these are examples, not suggestions!). We need to shake off our complacency and radically change our thinking about what the covert agencies/oligarchs are capable of and what atrocities are inevitably coming our way.
Saker. The world is not so interconnected now with a lot of shutdown borders.. and getting a lot less interconnected everyday.. so the spread will be a lot slower now just 3 months later, and now it is even easier to lock it off altogether in regards to human movement..
The strong preference of Russian society toward Putin is part of the reason for the lack of viable patriotic opposition. Unfortunately, strong historic personalities can have both positive and negative long term effects on nations and often there’s decline right after them.
To me Erdogan seems quite desperate. All the lies and unable to find his spot in the whole situation. He seems to have some sort of an adult ADHD.
The Clown Prince of KSA is a very unstable person. I can see how Putin might have used him for his own goals. It’s fascinating how some powers in this world consider self-harming behaviors as expression of strength and capability.
The election season is bound to be very dangerous. I cannot see a way or a development such that the social or civil unrest can be avoided in the US. In the best case, a major social meltdown and covert gradual but steep decline of the society may replace the overt civil unrest. This seems very likely. Last elections Trump won and this put the country on the edge but avoided a severe civil unrest. Then, everything unfolded in a constant power battle. This was essentially the only option to avoid anything major, because if Clinton had win, it would have been a disaster for the country and the world. That’s essentially the main contribution by Trump — delaying the disaster. Adding to the fire the COVID panic, which seriously hurts the society, since the media decided to do its usual thing and flood people with fear, invoking animalistic self-preservation behaviors. The coming elections will be in an environment of very broken, morally degraded, and split society. Biden or Sanders are less relevant. I don’t know which one is worse in that regard. As I said, I see no way a very bad development could possibly be avoided.
Is this possible? Would Biden select Killary Clinton as his running mate? And all this Bernie vs Joe rivalry is just a show because it looks too much like a consolidation for Biden. One can easily see the manipulation but the masses don’t get it.
I read that one the other day and just about died laughing.
The world can laugh at the prospect of Killary as VP designate to Biden, but her inglorious record shows her as THE perfect candidate to succeed Biden when he inconveniently steps down or remain in name only. Two words – she DARES – the unimaginable.
If it’s a bioattack, it was poorly thought out. Because judging from whats about to happen, it’s probably going to infect about 30-40% of the US population… the US is going to be hit just as hard. So I’m not sure what advantage this gives the US after it’s all said and done. Considering that, it’s unlikely to be a bioweapon in my opinion… but some people just want there to be a conspiracy where there isn’t one.
A few comments, Mr saker…
First of all, COVID-19 has the potential to get out of hand bigtime. I live in a major city in the US and I am extremely concerned. I’ve stocked up on some items but I don’t have enough resources to just go out and drop $500+ on food, survival supplies and ammo. Plus, I still have to work to try and pay my bills. Which means I have to go outside and interact with people regardless of how bad it gets. Which means if I get coronavirus, I’m just going to have to plow through it and then get back to work as soon as possible so that I can keep my rent paid.
Oh, isn’t life grand…
TI must say, the stress is really getting to me…
At any rate, the situation in Syria is looking like it will stabilize and the Takfiris will be dealt with one way or the other. The Turks are backing off. Erdogan realizes his forces aren’t accomplishing anything in Syria.
There was, however, a bombing in Iraq earlier that killed some US contractors.. and a purported Israeli airstrike against the PMU that happened at roughly the same time.
Looks to me like the situation is going to continue heating up in the middle east overall, while the Idlib front calms down and stabilizes.
Just what humanity needed… a viral outbreak and another war in the middle east, at the same time. Maybe, if we’re lucky, things will get so bad with coronavirus that war will suddenly become unthinkable… forcing the US to back off for a while. I find it hard to believe the US can wage a war with Iran while having 30+% of its own population at home reeling from infection and society on the border of collapsing completely from the weight of millions of hospital patients.
TI must say, the stress is really getting to me…
Yes, and THAT is the most dangerous side-effect from the virus.
But, please, keep in mind that for something like 95-99% of the people, this is no worse than a flu.
Money, yes, that is a HUGE problem. Maybe try to get some items which you would use anyway or, better, band together with a few neighbors (that will do miracles for your safety).
Finally, maybe you can relocate to some small town to friends or relatives?
Good luck my friend, and don’t let the fear-mongering get to you!
Take heed from her example: https://youtu.be/m3gZLODJ8Wk :-)
This virus will kill you mr. Saker, you are in the right age demographics with elevated ACE-2 receptors in the lungs; it will start out with a dry cough then in phase 2 the virus will sneak into your lungs and fill the lungs with fluid, you will drown, if the virus infects the CNS and brain it can control your breathing and heart, shut down your breathing, you can go into convulsions, you can get multiple organ failure. This all within 2 hours from no symptoms to death!
No it is not just like the flu, you are dead wrong. 10% need intensive care, how many beds are there? Not many! Healthcare will get overwhelmed and collapse not being able to provide healthcare service to NON-COVID-19 patients. China went into DEFCON 1 BioWarfare mode to contain this virus, they sent healthcare personnel from all over China to Wuhan to contain this virus, they succeeded. Will the west succeed? Don’t think so, unless they miraculously develop a vaccine or medication.
This virus will kill you mr. Saker, you are in the right age demographics
Maybe. I am now 56 years old, my kids are young adults. I have already done what I most needed to do in my life, and if My Lord wants to call me back – I am fine with it.
That’s for starters.
Second, you did not read what I wrote, if you had, you would be under the mistaken assumption that I am saying that the West will do great. I am not saying that, neither did I ever before. So that is a straw man.
Finally, you have no idea what I did or did not already survive in my life. A virus will not decide when it is my time to go, God will.
People who have diabetes thus high blood pressure will have elevated ACE-2 receptors, they are at higher risk, so are East Asians who naturally have a higher ACE-2 receptor count than the average Caucasian. Those ACE-2 receptors (included in the lungs and other organs) get infected by the virus. Also there are different strains of COVID_19, not much is known if these different strains have (slightly) different pathogenesis, some could be milder than other strains.
Good. No diabetes or high blood pressure in me.
Hurray! Maybe I get to live a little longer after all ;-)
But I do have *some* Asian blood too (tatar family roots).
Could you please state clearly EXACTLY what it is that the ACEII enzyme does in this case? The ACEII enzyme is part of the RAS blood control system and is instrumental in causing smooth muscle cell contraction in order to contract blood vessels. Everyone has them. Otherwise no-one would have blood pressure or any ability to vary it, as needed. Sometimes our BP goes way up – physical and emotional stress for example. During deep sleep it goes down, way down. It rises before we wake along with Blood sugar to enable us to get out of bed.
What does this have to do with coronaviruses, which are noted to cause the Common Cold along with Rhinovirus in 80% of common cold cases.?? All common colds, which occur around the world in millions of cases every year, are caused by one of these two viruses in 80% of cases. The CoV2019 was sequenced. It’s sequence was compared to other coronaviruses both sourced from China and other countries.
It matched all Coronaviruses in all bases except for the 4 segments which are present in all but one other Corona virus in lesser amounts; These turned out to be 100% identical to the HIV coat glycoprotein.
Non of the sequences were of any particular ACEII relationship.
Perhaps you could explain very clearly just what this ACEII relationship with the CoV is, how it differs from all other CoV’s and what it’s action is in the lungs. Reference to science journals and papers would be appropriate.
(Removed insult.Please do not insult fellow posters,MOD)
What insult? I was not aware I had insulted anyone. Can you quote what it was.
You are aware that your post is combative.I passed most of it but the last was too much to pass.If you would prefer in the future I can just send the entire post for review to Saker. MOD
I must admit that I see nothing insulting or even rude about Pamela’s post after the moderator edit.
And my standards of politeness are fairly high.
Thank you Tom. You relieve me. I’m puzzled, reading over it again. It’s merely direct, scientific and to the point – I fail to see how that is “combative”. And I truly have NO recollection of writing ANYTHING insulting. I dont insult people – not deliberately anyway. I’m puzzled and bit worried, frankly, but your words are encouraging to me. Thank you again.
No, I dont see it as “combative”, but then as a Cymraeg, we are known for speaking bluntly and directly, which to many AngloSaxons is “combative”. But I truly dont remember writing ANYTHING after that last line. You have my email address, I’d appreciate if you’d tell me what it is. I know it was late at night, but if I’m writing things I have no memory of – especially if they are things opposed to my nature, such as being deliberating insulting which is something I never do, – I’d rather like to know. Please – this ISN’T being combative. You have me worried.
“…as a Cymraeg, we are known for speaking bluntly and directly…”
Well, you should be right at home here among your Scots Celtic cousins! 8-)
Who are also sometimes known for direct speaking. (I have been criticized for speaking my mind often enough that I now do so only in adequately sophisticated company).
I too used to give people a piece of my mind quite frequently. But after a while, the incidents added up.
How are you feeling , Dave?
Dave: I am 76 years old, caucasian and in average health for my age. I never get the flu, but i did this year. I assume it is Corona. Symptoms are fever, coughing (dry at first), mild pulmonary insufficiency (short of breath, high pulse rate) and other typical flu symptoms. Lasted 5 days and is almost gone now. No big deal. My Daughter caught the same thing and is also recovering well. If you are healthy and not one of the vulnerable genotypes, you are probably not in any great danger.
COVID-19 induced convulsions:
The neuroinvasive potential of SARS‐CoV2 may be at least partially responsible for the respiratory failure of COVID‐19 patients: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jmv.25728
I have heard combative remarks and conversation in Ireland, also in Wales but not so much, and sometimes with a humorous underlay, I am inclined to be combative too, as I think Saker definitely can be, and in the instance and pursuit of truth, to wake people up or get them thinking, or just for a healthy mind tousle to flex mental muscles.
Yes, I think the Gaelic people of Scotland and Ireland have as much as the Celtic people of North Cymru in being direct of speech, although in a slightly different manner.
The Scots Gaelic is somewhat challenging in it’s tone of voice, I often found. I think we Cymraeg are a bit “softer” in delivery — but the directness is still there.
I read in a modern transliteration of a description of advice being given by an officer of guard to the ruling Prince of Gwynedd, Llewellyn, “he spoke directly and bluntly to his face, as a true Welshman would, even to his own Prince”. He wasn’t in trouble from the Prince either, who understood that even his underlings would give him advice so.
I’s not always understood by the AngloSaxons, who tend to smile and speak softly even when stabbing you :-)
Oil wars: This is generally good for most Americans. Cheap gas/energy is a boost to the economy. The frackers will be destroyed, but for most Americans that is economically a good thing … the frackers are being propped up by Wall Street ($400 billion burned so far), but when the bill comes due … they will give it to me, not the banks. So, kill them as soon as possible.
If the US really wanted energy independence, it could turn to uranium. Nuclear power plants and electric cars would destroy the oil market. American is a country that in the past could lead this sort of radical shift. Not any more, but the capability is still there … we have one or two nuclear physicists left along with materials scientists.
The fact that no one has done this, does not mean that it could not be done, and it would end mark the end of the oil age. As a famous Saudi (Yamani) once said, ‘The Stone Age did not end, because humanity ran out of stones’.
After the coming change in society, and the end of the age of empires, humanity will switch to crystal technology. It is possible to generate infinite electricity using the correct crystal configuration without doing any harm to the environment, or posing a large danger like a radioactive nuclear facility. This technology already exists but it has been hidden because it has the potential to free humanity from oil and nuclear power. It will be impossible to keep hiding it, though, after the last empire has fallen… and then humanity will finally put it to good use, bringing in a new age of man which hasn’t been named yet…
You may not be sure of who the competent leaders are who could follow Putin, but they are there. Unfortunately history does tell us that the best people only occasionally rise to the leadership. Putin is clearly an anomaly, what used to be called a ‘good King’.
Of course, in 1998 no one would have imagined that Mr Putin would be the next president. Very few had even heard of him.
Now, if Mr Putin can only do as well as Mr Yeltsin did in choosing his successor…
There is a very interesting development here in the United States. The Corporate Media are starting to take the Coronavirus seriously. I suppose that the Media got their marching order from whomever it is that is actually running this country. The Ruling Class probably concluded that an epidemic is not good for business, so they instructed their media lackeys to start warning people.
So far so good.
Here is the problem.
The Corporate Media has so thoroughly demolished their own credibility, that many people are laughing at the media warnings. I am not kidding about that. I have had to contact more than one friend and tell them, “Hey, I was in China. This thing is real and it is serious. Avoid crowds, protect yourself.”
One friend told me, “Mike, I don’t believe anything that the media says. Nothing.”
I then told her what I knew from being in China and she basically replied “Oh, my God. Thanks, Mike, for telling me.”
I suppose we are seeing a classic example of the “Law of Unintended Consequences.” The number one rule of the media has traditionally been “we can say anything we please to control the peasantry.” But that rule didn’t work very well in the internet age. They have been exposed as liars over and over again. Now, they have to get a real and important message out to the public. But a lot of people simply don’t believe them.
Well now that Tom Hanks has it the media will be in a frenzy – he got it or brought it too Austalia.
Saker Telegram channel = cool
Putin forever = Don’t become Mugabe
I’ve been watching the progress map for COVID-19 and wondering…what happens when this thing gets to Syria? I haven’t really heard any speculation in that regard in the media. The way it lit up Iran, you’d have to expect it to be at least ten times worse in a country wrecked by a decade of civil war. I would think it would disrupt the restoration process and could even collapse the regime. Wouldn’t that be ironic? What man couldn’t bring down in ten years gets brought down in ten months or ten weeks by a virus. If Europeans were angry about healthy refugees flowing in, imagine how they’ll feel about potentially sick ones.
The Saker has just posed us all THE question:
“WHAT DOES RUSSIA WANT FROM THE EMPIRE IN 2020?”
So, folks, let’s make our best guesses!
The US should recognize the need for a whole new world order (economic, political, military etc.), a multipolar one, which would replace all the actual dysfunctional institutions (to start with the United Nations).
In order to achieve this, the US should engage in high level, deep negotiations with Russia along with China (other countries to be involved at a second stage).
As a prerequisite, the US should be urged to:
– Terminate all sanctions (not just on Russia, but on everyone else);
– Withdraw from everywhere the US presence is against the country will (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Guantanamo etc.); and
– Withdraw all offensive weapons from Russian borders (to start with the Aegis launchers in Redzikowo (Poland) and Deveselu (Romania)).
If I had to answer my reply would be “simply leave Russia alone, forget about this country, completely! Write “Hic Sunt Dracones” or even “Hic Sunt Tartari” on the map were Russia used to be a LEAVE US ALONE!”.
But that ain’t gonna happen, I am not THAT naive ;-)
Dear Saker, you wrote:
“I see prices fluctuating but with a steady downward trend. The only thing stopping that trend now would be some *MAJOR* concessions to Russia” […] [once] “simply bombing Russia to smithereens is no longer an option”
So, we are talking about the Empire reaching a point where it have no way out other than ask (beg) Russia for negotiations – aren’t we?
Besides, the guess I’ve made (above) is NOT about what the US might accept, it is about what Russia might demand.
As well as Vitamin C (Sodium Ascorbate for injection as it is PH neutral)
Zingiber officinalis (at least fresh ginger) is a potent antiviral:
Overall results revealed that concentration of aqueous extract of ginger (10%), showing antiviral activity against H9N2 (Avian Flu)
‘In vitro and in vivo studies of both extracts and pure compounds indicate a wide variety of potent bioactivities including antiinflammatory, antibacterial, antioxidant, antiobesity, anticancer, enzyme inhibitory and remarkable antiviral properties. The latter is particularly promising in the face of emerging, virulent respiratory diseases in Asia and the Middle East. ‘
Fresh, but not dried, ginger is effective against HRSV-induced plaque formation on airway epithelium by blocking viral attachment and internalization.
The emergence of alphaherpesvirus strains resistant to commonly used antiviral drugs has prompted the research for alternative, biologically active anti-herpetic agents. Essential oils (EOs) have shown anti-infective properties against human herpes simplex viruses (HSV-1 and -2). Caprine alphaherpesvirus 1 (CpHV-1) induces genital lesions in its natural host and it is regarded as a useful homologous animal model for the study of HSV-2 infection, chiefly for the assessment of antiviral drugs in in vivo studies. In the present study we evaluated the activity in vitro of ginger EO (GEO) against CpHV-1. GEO was found to be effective as virucide on cell-free virus, inactivating CpHV-1 up to 100%.
That might go a long way toward explaining why Indonesia has been among the last to report infections, despite having lots and lots of Chinese tourists. A lot of them fix up sambal fresh each day with ginger among other ingredients. There was something going around there in January (and I’ve heard similar reports from Australia) featuring an impressive cough and otherwise resembling COVID-19. My husband and I caught it, and got through it pretty quickly with lots of vitamin C and bits of fresh garlic chewed slowly, that I have found a good strong anti-viral.
The Saker wrote: “The only thing stopping (a steady downward oil price trend) would be some *major* concessions to Russia, but I have a hard time imagining what Russia might want from the Empire”.
How about the Empire stop terrorising the entire world, so we could get back to peace, trade and prosperity?
The Empire has long been feed by western taxes and centralbanks, but now the well is running dry, and the western stock market is starting to crash.
So i order to avoid the blame for the planed crash, the Empire has conducted the COV-19 scare.
Now all European nations are beginning to shut down Schools, University´s, Businesses, Airtrafik, public Transportation, and prohibiting events and congregations with more than 100 people.
Workers are send into Quarantine without being testet positive for the corona virus.
The COV-19 serves several purposes:
1) The global Elite can deflect the blame for their planed economic crash.
2) Trump will be blamed for the crash and the poor preparedness within the US health sector.
3) Globalist Free trade will be promoted at the savior of western Economy.
4) China has been hit by Tianjin Explosion, Swine virus, Bird virus, Corona virus, and Hong Kong Riots, to hamper their production and the Sino Russian Belt and Road initiative.
5) The COV-19 was planed at Davos December 2019, primarily to counter Trumps reelection 2020.
The Globalist are trying a last Hail Mary attempt to grind all nations to a halt.
Take care of one another.
I guess this comment falls mostly in the category of oil wars. But it applies to others indirectly. And I know this isn’t an economic or financial site. But in fact money, and more precisely control of commerce, is key to understanding many issues. And so much has been written on money (and etc.) in the recent decade, that a lot of it (most of it actually) is repetitive. But with those warnings I recommend the following article, as it is a pretty interesting synopsis that is very relevant to the here and now, and many might find interesting if they take the time to understand it:
I know Luongo at least sometimes shows up here. Hi Tom !
Hi there, 44360!
I do lurk here and read a lot of the very excellent commentary. This is one of the very best communities for these subjects on the internet.
Deflation is happening and it is a good thing in the long run for those that have saved… and it is Russia’s most formidable weapon against the U.S. and the West.
Very, very good: “This is one of the very best communities for these subjects on the internet. “
Topic : Oil wars
Do you the recent escalation by rocket attack on Soleimani’s birthday on Taji base resulting in death of 1 British & 2 American soldiers could stop the petroleum free fall that had reached
new lows (unseen for decades as we adjust for inflation)
The murcan way of dealing with the corona virus is meeting the usury bankers and wall street rentiers🙄
I guess buying “STONKS” make you immune just as the Hindu blessings make you immune in India…
I better invest in some teslaq stonks before half off Norway get quarantined to be sure.(/s)
When I read your phrase ” Those of us residing in the USA better make contingency plans”, my heart dropped. I think about it all the time. I am Russian. I live in NYC, where majority of people are as blue as they come. I started to feel some dormant hostilities of surrounding people few years ago. All this time I keep convincing myself that I overreact and being paranoic. But after I read your post I know that what I was doing was trying my best of not hearing my own inner voice and shutting down my sense of self- preservation. Your post woke me up. Forewarned means forearmed. I better start making my contingency plans for myself and my family like yesterday. Спасибо, Андрей.
I recommend you get out of NYC and relocate to a small town.
Also, talk to friends and neighbors, they can help.
And if you have an MD friend, get the meds you need in advance.
By the way, reach out to other Russians, they can help you too.
But mostly simply make the sign of the cross, pray with your family, and don’t fear or worry.
And always remember: (Matt 10: 28-31)
И не убойтеся от убивающих тело, души же не могущих убити: убойтеся же паче могущаго и душу и тело погубити в геенне. Не две ли птице ценитеся единому ассарию? и ни едина от них падет на земли без отца вашего: вам же и власи главнии вси изочтени суть:
не убойтеся убо: мнозех птиц лучши есте вы!!!
Обнимаю и Бог в помощь!
Get well soon!
Each winter someone in our family contracts some strain of flu, inevitably dominoing every other person in the household. This year was a lucky exception, because if it happened then there’s always the thought it might be the “bat flu”.
Incidentally there is this article from global research https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related articles implying that the coronanovovirus, although identified in China likely originated in the US. Chicken little stuff but I found it fascinating & plausible.
(that article does not suggest a bioweapon, but the followup article by same author Does)
China seems to be recovering, that is the overall impression from the positive tone of the few Chinese bloggers I’ve trawled. Some stuff I’ve ordered from China has finally been shipped after weeks on hold.
My own economic comprehension is also simplistic but one can probably say the same of the empire’s leadership. What if more Persian gulf “incidents” manifested, would this counter the oil price war & save the US fracking industry? Yes it’s stupid & KSA would be screwed (since their tap will be turned off) but one must never underestimate hubris.
Has anyone seen a comparison of exit polls and election results for the latest primaries and Super Tuesday? Biden’s resurrection seems far to miraculous and can only be explained by either election tampering or the lack of critical thinking by the American voter. After the re-election of George Bush in 2004, my opinion of the American voter went deeply south and I have seen nothing since to change that assessment. Perhaps the following quote explains it:
“When everything the US people believe is a lie, we will have succeeded.” – William Casey, Former Head of the CIA.
Abracadabra! Now you see it now you don’t.
The exit poll was basically banned in Canada and the USA because it was… reliable.
It made it much harder to plausibly hijack and rig elections, which has now become standard practice, not the exception.
The Exit polls are way off. Yes, they’re stealing the primary again.
* Closing down voting sites in places where Sanders is expected to do well
*Massive difference between exit polls and votes
*consistent negative press against Sanders
*Many voting machines are not verifiable and hackable
etc etc etc.
why would a Michelle Obama vice presidency bid..or her election to the vice presidency… lead to social unrest?
don’t be silly – she is absolutely HATED by White conservatives
you know that as well as I do – you just want me to say it
Re COV 19
It is well understood that viruses are known to jump species.
Therefore it is logical to follow that research has been on going in this field since at least and possibly well before the first reported outbreaks of Ebola in the 1980’s (Please correct me if I am wrong about this timeline}
We also had BSE or (mad cow disease) amongst others.
It is well understood that the continuing research into theses dangerous viruses occurs in Bio labs and in high secrecy’,
Here on this website amongst those of you with far far greater knowledge on the subject of virology than I,it appears to be widely accepted. that this virus came from an animal host.
I posit the following:
The virus was discovered earlier earlier by research as described above and released with the intent of a weapon into the wet market or markets of Wuhan.
Plausible deniability being The presence of a Level 4 bio lab in Wuhan and the red herring of the bioweapon story dimension,
COV 19 may very well be a “Weaponised Virus”
as opposed to a Bioweapon.
Being that the” mind virus” ,blind panic, ignorance and more are side effects of this operation we need all to keep cool heads on our shoulders and take care of each other.
Love to all.
“Bio-engineers have confirmed that trans-species “jumping” and mutation of this virus is pretty much impossible.
According to the reports, there would be three kinds of species that would have to be involved. An African cobra (now a scaled anteater), a rare South Pacific bat, and some kind of sea-creature (or else, how did it get into a seafood market?)
Trans-species migration is very rare, but unheard of to involve three species. Especially ones as diverse as the ones being considered.
Then it was discovered that the genome contained “HIV insertions”. Thus they discovered that not only is this virus stealthy, contagious and lethal, but it also shuts down the immune systems of the infected person.”
My above Hypothesis is not changed by your claim that three species are required, even if it were 23 species the hypothesis still stands,
I do not have time to argue ….was merely observing what I see in front of me ….web search “the most powerful natural antibiotic” that exact phrase will give links to how to prepare this very effective 100% natural viral remedy. As for the mind virus and bickering …I can not help
Love to all
It will probably be possible to trace this virus directly to a lab. I think it is pretty much already clear that it is labproduced, and for example Iran has started research in order to trace it.
This may be the reason the US Army medical research at Ft. Derick is closed already so In case the virus may be traced to a specific lab, this lab was closed already by CDC due to defective routines of . If it is modified in a lab which seem obvious, coronavirus is a patent owned by CDC. Biowaste disposal failed.
“The issues stemmed from a May 2018 incident in which Fort Detrick’s steam sterilization plant, which handles biowaste, failed. After that, the lab transitioned to a chemical system to treat wastewater.”
I think such a bioweapon cannot be compared to coldwar bioweapon programmes or chemical weapons, it is definitely not such a kind of weapons, it is a totally new weapon where the enemy is not a country, the enemy is the people, it is a weapon for depopulation as propogated by the world elites now.
It is also linked to the UN SDG programmes (sustainable development goals) who are aligned with the Rockefeller Club of Rome programs and the WEF (world economic forum).
In short we see one such programme in action. This one directly linked to the military which also the case with Ebola.
100% pure conjecture
how many of these posts do we really need?
(hint: I would say “none”).
Saker, please remember Pascal’s wager.
I much prefer his “memorial” ;-)
I agree with Saker
Too much speculation here,my contribution to the debate is complete .I have posted the hypothesis and make of it what you will.It took weeks of reading(mostly posts on this blog) and input from Chinese associates in China (doctors)to come up with that hypothesis and thanks to all who have shared valuable insights and more.
I would like to post this herbal remedy aka “the most powerful natural antibiotic”
Using preferably organic materials.
However, given we are where we find ourselves non organic will work just fine.
1 quarter cup finely chopped onion
1 quarter cup finely chopped garlic.
1 quarter cup of fresh,grated ginger
2 fresh hot chillies finely chopped
2 tablespoons of fresh,grated turmeric root
2 tablespoons of of fresh grated horseradish
2 teaspoons of honey
700 ml of organic cider vinegar “with the mother “ sometimes this is called unfiltered organic cider vinegar.
One 1.5 litre Kilner jar (a clear glass vessel that has a rubber seal or airtight seal)
Put all of the above ingredients into the Kilner jar leave to marinate for 2 weeks making sure to shake the vessel vigorously for 15 or so, seconds twice or 3 times daily.
The vessel can be kept at room temperature in a place where you will be easily reminded to shake it.
When 2 weeks is up strain the mix through a muslin cloth(I use a nylon mesh paint strainer readily available from any decent paint shop)strain and squeeze all the liquid from the mix.This liquid is your antibiotic.
In my experience the best time to take this is when and if you feel a bit sickly for the first time.One whiskey shot amount is enough at any time and wash it down with a glass or two of fresh water.
If your condition is persisting continue 3 times daily till you feel better.
The left over pulp can be used for cooking stock for soups,stir fries etc.
BTW colloidal silver is very effective as an anti viral remedy …and most efficiently absorbed if it is taken using a nebuliser device.
Two or 3 minutes 3 times daily.
Colloidal silver is a heavy metal and never leaves the body …however using a nebuliser is very efficient and it would take much over use and abuse of this process to have a negative effect on a persons health,unless, of course a person is allergic to silver.
The same obviously holds for any of the “natural antibiotic “ ingredients.
I add further that any attempt to treat COV19 with steroids is known to be fatal.
Steroids are often used to treat Respiratory infections such as flu.
So be damm sure of your diagnosis before you allow steroids
Love to all and get well soon Saker
a.Putin is a one man show, not a stable system, which is what Russia truly needs.
b.There are no viable successors to Putin (at least none that I know of).
Yes and yes. When Putin is unable to function, Russia runs the real risk of dying. The Western Oligarchs who are generationally driven know this and just have to wait for Putin to leave before sinking their fangs into Russia. The only hope for Russia is to finish off the West before Putin is no longer capable of guiding Russia.
Regarding Putin Forever, I share the same fears that you’ve expressed. Russia will benefit from keeping him at the helm, for now, but what the Russians need in the long term is a system that can do without him. Otherwise we’re likely to see an era of decline like what the Eastern Romans had after Justinian.
Regarding the American election, I am by now 90% certain that the Democrats will nominate Biden and that he’ll lose to Trump. He is a dull, uninspiring candidate, much of the time no longer lucid, and even a decent Dem would have a hard time winning back voters that his or her party has been calling racist for the last four years.
Though on the off chance that Biden wins, I think it would be a disaster – even worse than a Bernie victory – simply because we will have an old dotard who can’t remember where he is or what he’s doing, surrounded by advisors who are hankering for the next war.
É cada coisa que tenho que ler. A ignorância impede certas pessoas de compreenderem o espectro político oriental. Como favorecidos do estado democrático ocidental ignoram o sistema político oriental. Culturalmente os orientais necessitam de um líder supremo que se responsabilize pelo Estado onde é cercado por “patriotas” que representam o Estado e seus cidadãos. O sistema parlamentar é um veneno inoculado pelas “democracias ocidentais” para escravizar o populacho e subornar os corruptos em forma de parlamentares. A “democracia” apenas serve para dividir e dominar em prol dos campeões da democracia. Rússia e China não podem se dar ao luxo de serem facilmente dominadas pelo charme “democrático”. A politica russa-chinesa é questão de segurança nacional e não de delírios propagados por russofilos e sinofilos ocidentais. Política não é campeonato de futebol.
It’s every thing I have to read. Ignorance prevents certain people from understanding the eastern political spectrum. As favored by the western democratic state they ignore the eastern political system. Culturally, Orientals need a supreme leader who takes responsibility for the state where he is surrounded by “patriots” who represent the state and its citizens. The parliamentary system is a poison inoculated by “western democracies” to enslave the populace and bribe the corrupt in the form of parliamentarians. “Democracy” only serves to divide and dominate for the champions of democracy. Russia and China cannot afford to be easily overwhelmed by “democratic” charm. Russian-Chinese policy is a matter of national security and not of delusions propagated by Western Russophiles and Sinophiles. Politics is not a football championship.
This is a bioweapon of the Western elites, who are transnational and have no allegiance to any one except themselves and their families. These elites lust for a population reduction to free up even more wealth for themselves. If tens of millions of people in the Western world die, these elites will be quite happy.
The only wrench, of course, is that the competitor elites in the East are mobilizing their own peons, and are taking steps to ensure that their peons survive, because in the end the elites with the most peons will win the civil war.
What both the Western and Eastern elites fear is a common front of the peons. But the peons have become so atomized that the elites’ fears are mollified. Thus, the war of Kings will continue until the last Peon.
” I sure am an economy-ignoramus ”
I don’t think you are – it’s mostly common sense.
Like not borrowing money you cannot repay. Or gambling with derivatives etc we don’t understand. etc. Or creating more than you spend etc
Just think in terms of your family – it’s kind of the same on the level of the government.
The kleptocrats and money-charging mafia just want us all to think it’s such an impossible to understand subject – only their jewish mafia friends like Bloomberg can ever be in charge of such a complex thing.
I have a degree in Economics (I studied in London) and I spoke to a few friends a few years ago in San Francisco – among us we had the best Economics, MBA etc degrees in the world.
We all agreed we did not learn anything useful there.
Nothing at all – it was all based on models that have nothing to do with reality.
They basically just promote the fraud they are using (how to give everything to the rich and take everything away from the poor etc).
It’s become like an evil cult with a lot of brainwashing and fraud – enforcing.
Just read a few good books and you will understand everything you need to know to become an expert – better than most of the talking heads, Jeffery Sachs and other Harvard mafia who mostly get everything wrong all the time.
The best book to read I think is Michael Hudson’s Killing the Host (or any of his other books).
Also Naomi Klein’s The Shock Doctrine
Read these two books and you will understand and predict better than any Harvard PhD in economics or MBA, I guarantee
It took me about a decade to forget all the predatory Friedman BS I learned while doing my degree (and I worked for investment banks in London afterwords).
We can figure everything out ourselves – it’s a simple subject really if done right.
Although it’s deliberately mystified far too much by jewish owned and controlled media so to make us feel lost and disoriented.
Their usual predatory approach
I second that. Having a degree in Economics from an University where Hayek himself worked and finally passed away (Freiburg im Breisgau) I was conditioned and consented into Hayekian/Ordoliberal neoliberal thinking with Neoclassical methodo(un)logical structure.
All I learned about how money works I learned from three type of economist:
Michael Hudson – an historian/Marxist economist
Steve Keen – an economist of finance
Phil Mirowski – an institutonalist/historian economist
I will try to find some books to read from Keen and Mirowski (I have never heard of them)
There is so much confusion deliberately crated to do with the subject of money, economy and business – so to make it as a weapon to use against people (turning them into slaves preferably)
We’ve been hijacked by psychopaths – and a good tool to reverse this is to learn from good sources (as well as to learn about psychopaths and how to spot them)
Psychopathy is another very subject I learned nothing about while doing my degree (in psychology) again in England.
Whoever controls the education there makes sure the most relevant and helpful skills are never learned.
We have to do it ourselves
The first step to is to realize that most of the stuff we were taught are wrong.
Very interesting discussion between you, tomo and vato. I am not an economist, but I am also going to try reading those authors you have recommended. Thanks.
The Saker said that if it was a bioweapon then it would kill a lot more people. The comment makes perfect sense in the context of a real war. But what if the virus is designed to be simply a disruptor with a limited lethality and not a total destroyer. The economy is heading for the toilet bowl, and something has to be triggered that would certainly take away the focus from the real economic terrorist. Second objective is to weaken China and Iran, and on this level, at least temporarily, it seems to be effective. The timing of this virus is probably the most important factor of all, and it was discussed to death (no pan intended) all over the net, so I won’t repeat what was already expressed.
I feel that there is already a vaccine against the Corona virus (unless it existed from the beginning or before)… if we analyze the response and behavior of the American authorities.
China’s economy and prestige way down, the price of oil and Russia’s revenues the same. Warnings for Iran and Italy. I feel that the virus can be spread at any point and anywhere,as needed.
Now we enter the second phase of the global experiment ( not the War of the Worlds ) by judging the actions of governments, the mainstream media and even the alternative Press.. Global panic, even hysteria ( we can easily die,no vaccine so far ) so they can implement:
” The Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institute for Health (NIH) want the virus to spread, because the result will be bigger budgets; the pharmaceutical companies (Big-Pharma) want the virus to spread, because it will bring them profits in mandatory vaccination whether it prevents or aids the spread of the virus; governments want the virus to spread, because it allows them to impose martial law and abolish civil liberties; elites are using the virus to reduce the world population; governments are using the virus to reduce the strain of the elderly on health care systems and save money. You can add to this list on your own.”
It is highly likely that globalists will use this ” pandemic ” to trigger a global economic crisis to transfer the public and personal wealth of many into the hands of the few. And the rich will get richer and the poor poorer.
“On October 18th the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, brought together 15 leaders of business, government, and public health to simulate a scenario in which a coronavirus pandemic was ravaging the planet.”
Re: Update 2
Coronavirus is a labcreated virus since CDC hold a patent for it. It was created in the USA.
Many labs have therefore researching Coronavirus obviously for different reasons.
A lab in Israel have already researched a vaccine against Coronavirus and now the new strains of it and may be able to produce a vaccine within a few months, and seem to be way ahead in the field.
Israeli scientists: We have developed a coronavirus vaccine.
“Four years of research on chickens with the disease led to the discovery. ‘It’s totally game-changing,’ CEO says in exclusive interview.”
John4Truth another view point in regard to the development of a vaccine for COVID-19.
A Russian Virologist, Alexander Lukashev, Director of the Martsinovsky Institute of Medical Parasitology, Tropical & Vector-borne Diseases at Sechenov First Moscow State Medical University shares his view on the obstacles that impede the timely creation of an efficient vaccine:
“…..It is pretty easy to make a prototype of a vaccine and it is indeed possible to do it in three months or even less. But so far, we do not even have models to prove the efficacy and safety of such vaccines.
A lot of institutions and companies now produce vaccine prototypes, but I do not foresee the implementation of these vaccines into human use in the nearest year……”
Please read the full and very informative article by an expert.
For the Saker:
Dimitry Peskov gives a clear explanation on whether VVP will even participate in 2024.
My view isn’t that he will be a President for life – but will be able to run for another 2 terms max if the people and constitutional court ok/reset for a current President. This would give Russia more time to grow their future leader/s and allow the public to get to know them. After the new constitution the President will be less powerful and more power is given to the Duma. The reset is also driven by global crises and stability being maintained in a country that doesn’t want or need any more revolutions.
I understand that the expert Lukashev to say that it takes more than a few month, and that there are difficulties that must be overcome . But the question he was given indicated that the Israelis only did a few months research, and he answered with that in mind. The Israeli scientists, a large scientific research group working for Migal, have been working on this for 4 years with a vaccine for chicken, and then adapted their result quickly to human vaccine. The vaccine is in pre-clinical trials (February 27).
Another institute, Philbright Institute UK, has a patent on the coronavirus, have also been working on their vaccine for a long time apparently. (the institute is founded by the elites, the royals and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) Bill Gates Foundation have been warning the world of the epidemic outbreak for every 4 years at Munich Security Conference. This year he appeared only briefly to say that he committed 1.5 billion dollars to vaccine research. BMG are in fact planning for depopulation as well. I mean, search YouTube or Google for Bill Gates and depopulation. He is very sinsister and call for zero emissions as well , in the context of human population, and pushing for vaccines and health measures to reduce population by 15 percent.
It appears that the Trump administration have been vaccinated judging from the absence of testing after meeting infected people, the meetings there are held at Gov Health and Human Services, who originally held the CDC patent for Coronavirus itself, are classified by the Trump administration. There is the press conferences otherwise but they keep a tight seal on information about the detailed discussions. Why should these meetings be classified?
A couple of interesting articles that go against the Coronavirus conventional wisdom in the Anglophone mainstream and supposed “alternative” media:
COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?
These articles make the most sense to me if I consider an escaped lab specimen. Imho 99% of major mishaps and (Removed language,MOD) in this world happen due to human mistakes, ignorance or plain studpidity.
So some unwitting transfer from the US to china could have very ell happened.
For all who think this the beginning of the “endgame” for the NWO:
Many of the rich dudes behind the scenes are really old, so releasing a virus worldwide which predominantly kills elderly and weakened people is self-defeating.
Creating an uncotrolled crisis is generally not desirable, too many unforseen developments can occur and generally, crony capitalism works best if people happily enslave themselves, not if they panic and stop working.
The west is like a boat in dangerous waters without a captain. The crash of the financial system may have been an inevitable consequence of the bubbles created by the usurers. And the new COVID-19 may be just another virus that escaped a lab, at some stage, proving again the western incompetence. Now, the usurers cannot control the market, while the ‘authorities’ cannot control the spread of the virus. It is time for Russia and China to take the leadership of the boat before it sinks even further…
There are apparently 5 different strains of the virus.
The strains in China, Iran, and Italy are all different.
Ergo — the virus was planted there deliberately.
The probable source of the virus is Fort Detrick bio-labs, Md., USA
I have to agree with Mr. Saker the time but I also disagree with Mr. Saker on one thing.
I agree that we have no proof to prove that Covid-19 is a bioweapon that is developed by US or China. This is too soon to make conclusion now.
I disagree with Mr. Saker that US (or possible China) will not use the bioweapon because due to how psychopath and insane US elites (and how arrogant China elites) are, I’m not so surprise if they dare to play with fire. However, my point can be irrelevance so that take it to “consideration box”.
*About my country Vietnam:
In February, Vietnam had done a great job to prevent Covid-19 infection spread to entire country. However, the overconfident make Vietnam government low their guard down. In March last week, a stupid rich Vietnamese girl, who have COVID-19, had come back from London and didn’t tell the security guard that she went to France, Italy, and others places that have COVID-19, and the security guard is overconfident enough to not interrogation her on where did she go when she was in Europe, and right now possible entire Vietnam get infected COVID-19 by her stupid action, many customers in the plane VN0054 are get infected by her, and they go this go that in around Vietnam. Vietnam Government are trying to track and quarantine the customers who went with the rich girl and the people who contact with the VN0054.
Vietnam is messed up now by the stupidity and Darwin Adward.
I was wondering where is your post until I scroll way down….
Anyway, for the resource and man power that Vietnam has, I think they are doing as best as they can. I hope all will be controlled and not go overboard. I think China will send aid soon to all asean countries around in next wk or something.
CanI make just one point?
The CoV2019 does NOT cause “flu”. No corona virus nor rhinovirus cause Influenza.
Flu – short for Influenza is cause by the Influenza virus. It is a different illness. People are constantly confusing them.
It’s like having a headache and saying you had an attack of polio!!
Flu is much more lethal – it attacks the young – coronavirus does not so much and so far NO infections of young with CoV2019 have been reported.
Influenza kills young healthy people ; CDC last week reported 11 paediatric deaths across USA. None world wide for CoV2019.
Influenza lasts about 3 weeks or more. Some are “down” for 6 weeks. It has been associated with causing depression.
CoV2019 is a mild disease unless you are in a certain high risk demographic group. Recovery takes 1 week with no subsequent effects.
Always remember – Influenza is nasty and dangerous.
The Common Cold is a nuisance. period.
“Stay calm and think for yourself”
“Harvard University had surreptitiously proceeded with experiments in China. Experiments that had been forbidden by the authorities years earlier. And where they collected many hundreds of thousands of Chinese DNA samples and then left the country.
The Chinese were furious to learn that Americans were collecting Chinese DNA.”
Actually you are wrong there. Young people do get infected and become carriers, but usually have very mild or no symptoms. Which is exactly why it is far more infectious (it won’t get recognized as CoV) and thus dangerous for the elderly and weak.
CoV2019 is not a mild disease if it wrecks havoc in risk groups. The mortality rate in the risk groups are as high as 15%.(Removed insult.Please do not insult fellow posters.MOD)
No morre so than ANY Common Cold in it’s highly virulent stage. It affects ALL elderly with bad health the same wy. They tend to develop pneumonia and die from that.
If you; check the CDC – currently the world centre for stats an ALL infections disease states, you will see that the Corona Virus has a lethality of 3%. Influenza is currently running at 6.8%, which is 0.4% below that stated as baseline for an epidemic.
And NO corona virus illness has been reported for the under 19 yrs age group as reported by population and demographic studies carried out in China whereas last week in US alone 11 Paediatric deaths from Influenza were reported.
I stand by my assertion – the Corona Virus has been blown out of all proportion. Its a novel variant of one of the two virus that are always causing Common Cold [the other being the Rhinovirus], thus it has a higher lethality in a specific demographic in it’s first infectious cycle. It will lessen as the pandemic closes, return to it’s usual host, probably wild bats, and will cause another, less lethal, epidemic in a few years time.
Remember the Mantra: Keep Calm and think for yourself.
Why do you keep repeating this “minor illness stuff”when i and others have pointed out that this is not the case.
We know from China with 80,000 cases 3.9% have died. Yes dead. Another 5.3% are critical. This is not imaginary stuff it is hard data. So even if you assume that only 10% of cases were confirmed with 90% mild, you are still looking at a death rate 25 times worse than Swine flu. The Italian death rate is even higher 6.6% dead and 8.2% critical. Italy has 12,00 cases so the data is becoming statistically informative.
So please stop just saying it is the flu. the only people who could with confidence say that sort of thing are those that have some deeper knowledge eg it is a race specific bioweapon or there is a vaccine already available. I assume you do not have some such inner knowledge so i suggest you simply look at the death rate and take this seriously.
OK on the positive side it does not seem to affect those under 50 BUT there is very real fear that this is only because people under 50 have never encountered a similar sort of cold, so that when in 10 years or so a new strain of COVID appears (SARS 3) the autoimmune response of those who caught the virus this year will kick in. This is still unknown but even the idea of it means that the precautionary principle should apply.
Now of course the other key parameter is infectivity. There seems confusion over this but let us look at what we know. In a confined cruise ship in a 4 week period some 25% of those on board were affected, even where those known to be sick were progressively removed. Italy has an infection rate of 200/million, and clearly is still a long way short of its peak. Let us assume that it peaks at 400/mill (very, very conservative)
So translating this information to Australia we might have 10,000 cases of which about 500 will die and 1,500 or more will spend 3 weeks on a ventilator – all in the same two months. (There are still 32 Diamond princess patients listed as critical so i assume they have been on ventilators for three weeks or so. I have no idea how many ventilators we have but i ask you could Melbourne cope with say 400 extra cases on ventilators for three weeks. Assuming 20 hospitals that is 20 patients each in addition to routine needs.
“Why do you keep repeating this “minor illness stuff”when i and others have pointed out that this is not the case”.
Apparently because she disagrees with you. As far as I can see, there is insufficient data to be sure which of you is correct.
Every single year tens of thousands of people die in the USA from ordinary flu. In fact, with a world population of about 8 billion, it stands to reason that about 100 million of them will die every year – of some cause – because their time is up.
@watcher and all
“Why do you keep repeating this “minor illness stuff”when i and others have pointed out that this is not the case.”
To date, unless we are going to say china way under report the death rates and secretly burn all the dead bodies or like some others who say, wait until somebody find the whole building of dead bodies coz ppl are too afraid to report, unless we go to that direction of speculations, so far if we follow the given data that has materialised, Pamela is right to hold her case.
I and many here do not dispute her case but what we are saying is, given the special ability of this virus, that is it can lay dormant in bodies or surface of much longer period, the projected risk, therefore projected threat that some day it can explode and strike the masses is REAL, therefore it is much dangerous than just a flu. Also given that we do not have a cure or vaxx yet, and we do not like the fact that we, the most intelligent species on the food chain, is helpless.
The flip side is, we must acknowledge, there are one to many power players, are playing this for their purpose. Whether be for more political control, or change of monetary systems and on and on , may factions has legitimate interest to induce this mass psychosis, thus the virus is but a tool to them. They most likely already know this strange mix of virus has certain weakness, and most likely they may have the ‘cure’ at hand and have inoculate themselves. Unless we are in the opinion they want to depop, the other argument is they still want us around to be their slaves and play their game. If we are all dead or if there is mass extinction event, then what good is one survivor that call himself ‘King’ or ‘god’? Nobody would know. Their ego demands as many as possible to bow down to them, by force or by deception.
So we all read the given data differently. There are many many more smart ppl, like Saker and AndreiMartyanov does not seems to subscribe to the official narrative. Nobody need to subscribe to nobody’s belief blindly and that’s why we are here. As a precaution and maybe preparation for the better future, amarynth has organise a helpful alt-health page for those who are worried and need some support. I now think the viral event is almost certainly not the main point, but something else far more sinister is at play here. The collapse of the TWINs is real in murdering those thousands of lives, but their true agenda, it appears is to force more unchecked control of power via national security act and steal even more money. Like all magic show, is all about look here dont look there.
So let’s all be respectful and focus on the debated issue and not on the person who post his/her private views. No need for personal labels, such as virus denier.
We are all free to post any of our views, as long as the mods allow.
Meanwhile, don’t stress yourself, watcher :)
Nobody has ever change nobody by just winning the debate.
And somebody in China reflecting the anti-china propaganda due to this virus said,
‘If differences cannot be respected, its better to have tolerance than to have fake peace.’
We are all different. That’s just that.
Tolerate or better, keep the REAL peace.
Be safe there. Peace
Thank you for your support.
Can I address one statement you made, in order to return the support :-)
It’s this “. given the special ability of this virus, that is it can lay dormant in bodies or surface of much longer period, the projected risk, therefore projected threat that some day it can explode and strike the masses is REAL, therefore it is much dangerous than just a flu.”
In fact, this is not a worry, as lying dormant is what they all do. IN fact, if you go to Wikileaks [yes, I know not usually a good reference, but in this case it’s fine] to look up Influenza Type A sub-type H1N1, you can see there that although it arose first in 1918 and in a world wide pandemic that killed some 50 or more million people worldwide over about a year in 1918 and 1919. It is thought to be one of the deadliest pandemics in human history. it is now a part of the microflora that regularly cause Influenza epidemics, in spite of vaccinations. But it never kills like that, and probably never will again.
They are all highly virulent when they first appear, after the natural mutation, recombination and variation that is part of life on our planet. The first is as highly virulent as they get. The pandemic goes away. Years later it reappears but milder – although in this case, it still kills.
The thing is, what we have to remember is, once we’ve looked at just the microbe, we have to move onto the more complex issue of what is called “host – parasite relationships”. The virus is a parasite, and has it’s mechanism for invasion and use of a host. But the host also has it’s own mechanisms of defence and counter attack. The thing is, a “good” parasite doesn’t want to kill its host, to be teleological about it. After all, it needs it’s host alive so it can go on reproducing. A dead host is no use to it, because it dies too.
So the parasite mutates slightly [the mutation rate of Influenza is one of the highest of all microbes as a new mutation arises in every infection], the host invokes new defence mechanisms i.e. in this case, Antibodies which recognise the H1N1 antigen and thus destroy the virus, and the two co-exist.
And this is exactly what will happen with CoV-2019. Yes, it will lie dormant, probably back in the animal it came from- likely wild bats, and one day it will erupt, but be less lethal.
So – it’s not quite as worrying as it might seem without this dimension taken into account.
We still get Influenza TypeA H1N1 infections. Yes, some people do die. But it’s become a part of life. Once again, the answer is to live a healthy life style in order to be prepared and ready when these nasties raise their lethal heads again :-)
You know, I take your point Saker that Russia so far has Putin, and it’s getting hard to see who can take his place. The thing is no-one can. You can’t replace unique.
It’s a case of having a system in place. It’s the system that will work, not the person.
it looks as if the current changes to the Constitution are Putin’s way of doing just that – fixing the system. Remember he said – the President will come to be less and less associated with one person, but across many.
However, what can one say about America, when it all it’s major party of 2 major parties can produce is Biden, a strange man with apparent dementia problems and a criminal record, and Sanders, another strange man who seems to mean, nothing
Two elderly dim nothing people???
The idea of Biden and M. Obama – Ye Gods and little Fishes.
“Two elderly dim nothing people???”
It’s because the President actually does very little, and indeed (as we have seen recently) can’t set his own foreign policy or control where and when the US armed forces attack and kill people.
As Mr Putin has said repeatedly, presidents come and presidents go, but Washington’s policies remain oddly consistent.
Douglas Adams put it very succinctly: “The purpose of the Office of the President is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it”.
A century ago, H.L. Mencken explained with his usual savage wit:
“The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
“The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron”.
– H. L. Mencken (Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920)
Indeed. Always did like Mencken.
As I’ve long said, the major problem, I suspect, lies in the fact that as the numbers of people have grown so has a changed system come into place in which more and more people congregate in one place i.e. cities.
Read about the mutual aid to mutual advantage of small communities, [Kropotkin] and how they kept a system going for thousands of years, across the world. From the back blocks of China, throughout Russia, India, across Europe and Britain, small village communities of no more than 300 people at most, where true democracy exists because everyone gets to talk to each other, and the realisation that one “leader” forcing everyone to do his/her bidding was a disaster, each community worked on the principle of mutual aid, because sharing made them all strong, and grow more intelligent and informed.
The issue with modern metropolitisation is that at no time in recorded history have so many people, in their millions, gathered into massive groupings which dislocate the Universal Law of Attraction of Like to Like, and maintenance of a stable group by free flowing feed back loops. We dont know how to do it, basically. We have no precedent to go on.
But what is becoming clear after this move to centralise over a couple of hundred years, is that it doesn’t work for humans because it’s a Petrie Dish of nutrients for psychopaths, the social socio-paths the society creates and their associated violence.
And it’s only going to have one disastrous end unless we wake up to it and start to change things fast. But I think it’s got too big and is too far over the cliff edge to save now.
Yes. Many of the worst problems we face today can be explained simply by considering how industrialization and urban life militate against the instincts our ancestors built up through 2 million years of life as hunter-gatherers in small groups. In a small group, psychopaths are quickly identified and everyone knows how to handle them. If they act up, they are quietly killed.
Jared Diamond has described agriculture as ‘the worst mistake in the history of the human race’. Yuval Noah Harari’s remarks (in “Sapiens”) that, “We did not domesticate wheat. It domesticated us. The word ‘domesticate’ comes from the Latin domus, which means ‘house’. Who’s the one living in a house? Not the wheat. It’s the Sapiens”.
My only argument with Diamond – I gather he’s the guy Max Keiser frequently scorns, is that right? – is that agriculture wasn’t the worst mistake. It was the best, greatest leap forward, allowing organisation, mutual protection, time to think, to study, to learn. Living in houses was a tremendous advantage.
The worst mistake the history of the human race was industrialisation. It’s led to cities, unnatural living by working, not with the land and animals, but machines; it’s taken human kind away from learning less invasive and violent ways of doing thing – which do exist. Very few problems have only one solution, there are usually several different ways you can solve a problem, and in few cases has industrialisation come out on top. It’s led to giving psychopaths immense power over others and massive deaths and destruction from wars over the base requirement of it – oil and other fossil fuels.
The damage it has caused will felt, not only for years, but forever. Just think, we can never know, now, how China would have modernised from it’s ancient ways; what Japan would have looked like; how the Aboriginals of Australia would still be living. Their ways have been totally destroyed; with jeans, baseball caps on backwards, supermarkets and skyscrapers, they’re all just a pale echo of dominant America. And once done, it can never be undone. We can never go back and start again.
All industrialisation is a disaster – apart from orthopaedic surgery. Gotta give it that. :-)
All industrialisation is a disaster – apart from orthopaedic surgery. Gotta give it that. :-)
And trains. Forgot to add that. Definitely trains.
I’ve been thinking again about this matter of a successor to V.V. I wonder. I wonder if in fact he Has chosen a possible.
Yeltsin chose VP after watching hie work in the higher levels of bureaucracy. He saw how efficient he was, the results he got, the person he was.
He offered hi the Prime Minster role. Then he ran for President – quickly because the situation with Yeltsin was rapidly turing into a disaster.
Well, dont’ we have a repeating pattern here?
Mikhail Mishustin ,after doing a superb job transforming the Tax Department such that he raised the tax take by several billion Rb’s simply by making paying your tax the easiest thing for SME’s. He seems to have not a blot on his character on record, he clearly gets things done and done well. He’s very organised and he’s a “true blue Russian” as Aussie’s would say.
Like V.V, he had a first level of training in a Machine School before working for some time, then undertaking his Doctorate in Economics. V.V. did go straight to university from school, true, but then he worked in different spheres before undertaking his Doctorate in Economics as a mature adult.
I should add, i am a great advocate of not going immediately to university from school. While many clever people do this ok, to a large extent you end up with only partially matured people who have no experience of life outside the school room. Mature age students always do better than school children students.
He is known to V.V as they both enjoy sports and he plays in the Night Hockey League V.P. founded, he also shares a love of music with the President, having composed a couple of well known songs, and plays the piano. Thus V.V would have been able to get to know him well in an informal setting – his character, values, integrity, feeling for Russia, desire to be of service, as opposed to being “out for himself”
Perhaps all they need to do is teach him how to reach the mass of people so they feel they understand and know and trust him thus making him electable, which could easily be done in the coming 4 years!!
I wonder. I wonder.
In The Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown: Easy Money, High Rollers, and the Great Credit Crash (2009), Charles R. Morris wrote [p.146]:
“Consider: Financial markets built an investment paradigm that applied high leverage to long-term illiquid instruments. Then compounded the danger by funding those instruments in the short-term debt markets. Then doubled the bet again by building the base portfolios from unusually risky securities, like subprime mortgages and leveraged loans. Then, finally, embraced a class of credit derivatives that ensured the swift propagation of any local collapse through the whole system. If a band of brainy terrorists had been hired to destroy Western finance, they could hardly have designed a more efficient assault.”
Morris takes a view that this state-of-affairs (which is still in place) is ‘accidental’, i.e., just an outgrowth of the finance world doing its thing. On the other hand, considering everything in the world has been weaponized, wouldn’t it be handy to have a financial system in place that was sooo interwoven that a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon rain forest could bring it down?
On the lowering of oil prices, there is an elephant in the background. During the Saudi-caused drop in oil prices a few years ago, there was much speculation that there was a twin ‘objective’. On the neocon side, it was to hurt Iran. (The Saudi drop even occurred shortly after a neocon visit to the House of Saud.) On the Saudi side, it was to drive American frackers into bankruptcy, and then to roar back with higher prices once they were gone.
The ‘elephant’ during that time was that little-discussed, economic melt-down device: Derivatives. It turned out that the frackers had so many derivatives wound-around them that – had they gone en masse into bankruptcy – the huge derivative payouts would have bankrupted the insurers (derivatives are like insurance coverage).
Since that time, the frackers have gotten more efficient. However, their oil-production price is still far higher than Middle East and Russian producers. So, the American economy via the frackers can only support a moderately-low oil price before all-h*ll breaks loose with fracker bankruptcies, then derivative payouts, and lastly a too-big-to-fail insurer being overwhelmed.
My thought is that it is the newer CLOs (collateralized loan obligations) which will bring the world economy to its knees. Apparently, the banksters plan to use the same modus operandi as they used with CDOs (collateralized debt obligations). Although being ways of highly-leveraging money, CDOs and CLOs are pretty ‘neutral’ as long as the economy is ticking-along: you win some gambles, lose others, and extract fees on all. As soon as you hit some contraction, though, CDOs and CLOs become negative ‘force multipliers’.
When losses begin to outpace gains in a crisis, individual banks do not know the exposure of any other bank to CDOs and CLOs, and so an individual bank’s ultimate solvency (in a bankruptcy sense). This is guaranteed to ‘freeze up’ bank-to-bank transfers, and hence the financial system. It is the last ‘property’ that makes CDOs and CLOs so dangerous…
Boeing to draw-down Full $13.8 Billion Revolver, hinting at Bank Lending Freeze
“For that generation of traders out there who were following the market back in 2007/2008… they will recall that one of the key inflection points in the global financial crisis 12 years ago was when banks started pulling revolvers to preserve liquidity.
Moments ago, Boeing suggested that a similar moment is coming again: according to Bloomberg, the struggling aerospace giant which just a few weeks ago obtained an upsized revolver from various Wall Street sources to shore up its liquidity in the aftermath of the 737 MAX crisis, was planning to draw down the full amount of a $13.825 billion loan as early as Friday.”
Oh! I am relieved.
When I first saw the mention of a “Revolver” I thought of Hermann Goering.
Very knowledgeable comment. Could you assess what happened in the market this week? Are we close to the melt down point, bringing the world ‘to its knees’?
MC, I am not a financial specialist. Any answer would have to be couched in how deeply you want to proceed down the Rabbit’s Hole…
On the surface, propping up the financial markets with helicopter-money since 2008 rather than allowing real-world peaks and dips has severely distorted the market. It has allowed financial shenanigans like Morris noted (above) to continue and even intensify. It has also ‘interwoven’ the world economy so tightly that one stressor could bring the entire system to a standstill. (I believe Russia and China foresaw this general situation, and have moved to create additional financial systems for their own protection.)
The movements toward off-shoring manufacturing and just-in-time shipping have also tightly-wound the system. The old days of being able to absorb weeks/months of disruption are long gone. Enter the virus. To me, the lasting effects of this virus ‘crisis’ will not be in it’s lethality. It will be in the supply-chain disruptions. Close a border here; close a factory there. Sooner or later, you have supply-line chaos, and the knock-on to social chaos. “The market” has looked-forward, and does not like what it sees…
One can speculate on the ‘why’ and the ‘why now’ aspects. The timing so as to reach its peak just before the US Presidential elections is especially interesting. Unfortunately, with the mainstream media so compromised, we will each have to go with our ‘gut feeling’ as to deeper motivations in play…
“On October 18th the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, brought together “15 leaders of business, government, and public health” to simulate a scenario in which a coronavirus pandemic was ravaging the planet. Major participants were American military leadership, and certain neocon political figures.
Simulation Exercise of a coronavirus epidemic which results in 65 million dead. Supported by the World Economic Forum (WEF) representing the interests of Financial institutions, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation representing Big Pharma:
Several of the occurrences of the nCoV-2019 exercise coincided with what really happened.”
” Simulation Exercise of a coronavirus epidemic which results in 65 million dead.”
If they wait too long to reach that number the Russians or Chinese might develop the vaccine and all the huge profits are gone.
I don’t know about China , a country with a large population, but if there are more than 1 million dead Russians in those 65 …we could see billion of death due to the mushrooms.
I’m not sure who is driving this bus, but I think that whoever turns out to be the dem nominee will be presented with the opportunity to unseat Trump. For whatever reasons (($$$)) the US government has decided that it is less economically disruptive to allow the virus to sweep through the population as rapidly as possible. There really is no other way to interpret the actions and official statements coming out of Washington. Some will cite incompetence, but really? The US government had at least two months (assuming that they didn’t release this) to take action to stop this virus. That is not incompetence, that is intentional.
If this virus sweeps through the US population and it overwhelms the hospital systems the death rates are going to become very scary…and when people find out that it is not only going to be the elderly needing those ventilators and ICU beds, the panic will be something to behold. US nursing homes are going to endure a true holocaust. This virus will sweep through them with mortality rates approaching 100% over the next year (assuming the health care system is too overloaded to give an ICU bed to a geriatric nursing home patient).
People who are telling you to relax and not panic should simply be ignored. Everyone should be seriously considering their options for reducing the risk to themselves and their loved ones. Yes, people should be stockpiling food and whatever else they would need to survive 3-4 weeks, at a minimum, without leaving their homes. There is a very real likelihood that millions of Americans will need to self-quarantine when they become infected. We should be preparing now.
In this atmosphere, the dem nominee (personally I think Sanders will be the nominee) will be selling people free health care at just the time when virtually every American family will have someone in/just out of/or waiting to get into an ICU bed. The population is going to be very receptive to this message and blaming Trump in hindsight will be all too easy.
Trump may be changing his tune on the virus, but it may be too late…We shall see.
In the interest of full disclosure, I have never been affiliated with the democratic party
I have no medical knowledge but I have noticed that they have been predicting a huge flu pandemic for decades. It even occurred to me but they might at some point release something. However this coronavirus doesn’t make sense. With less than 400 infections detected in the UK the health minister tested positive for covid 19. She doesn’t claim any contact with for example hospital patients during the course of her work.
She just randomly contracted the illness. Some estimates put the UK population at over 80 million.
This strikes me as being close to impossible and now we have have Tom Hanks infected in a similarly improbable way. So I argue that this a hoax. It could be that hundreds of thousands are in fact carriers but this would mean that the virus is several orders of magnitude less dangerous then they claim. I guess that covid-19 does not exist or at least is relatively benign. How they would swing this with Russia and China and Iran is unfathomable but I think this is a hoax to rival or even exceed 911 itself.
Many infected show mild to no symptoms, but are still infectious. The virus is probably FAR more widespread in the population than the positive test numbers indicate.
All it means is that the UK and USA are negligent and are not testing people.
3/4 recent infections in Victoria were imported from the USA. That suggests to me that if in a week with say about 10,000 arrivals from the USA there is already a very high US caseload.
1-2% is not a weapon – saker
Yes, it is Saker, its known in combat its much better to shoot one guy ( non-fatal ) and then tie up ten carrying him out, than to kill one guy, in which case the other nine fight for vendetta; Besides even if four carry the guy out, in comes a chopper which is a soft target
In this case you contaminate civilian-populations, you make it sound that bio-weapons are for battle-ground, no they’re not, war’s are won-lost in the past century by civilian consensus, you destroy a country and its economy like say China or Iran, and you have won the war.
No accident that Chinese in Iran were infected pre Soleimani murder, or that the “Chicago of China” has been brought to a standstill. Nothing happens by accident, or that Italy is locked down and all Chinese city’s in Italy 100% infection, yet the huge Israel chinese city’s are showing no infection.
Lastly, Israel just announced they will have a covid-19 vaccine in 2 weeks.
In two weeks Israel will have the corona-virus vaccine for sale to Trump
Greatest virus on earth.
This is quite funny, as the COVID-19 has already been proven to be a corona-hiv hybrid, the people in Israel have been working on covid vaccines for four years, but nobody except maybe the CIA ( ft-detrick ) would have already designed a vaccine for the covid-hiv hybrid.
IMHO this is all a lie, or maybe the vaccine will attack the COVID part, but not the HIV
In Thailand in early January once they had the first patient they ran DNA analysis on the virus-sample and found that it had HIV strands, they immediately applied HIV retro-virus materials to the patient who within 2-3 days had recovered from pneumonia ( the reason people die is they choke to death on fluids )
It’s now normal for all people in the hospital ICU with the virus ( all of Thailand only has 52 infected, and 1-2 deaths to date ) to get HIV treatment. Now lets remember the test-kits are already in place, ordered back in January, the treatments including HIV are essentially free.
In the USA there are no test-kits and if a patient is suffering no insurance company in USA is going to authorize HIV retrovirus remediation’s, because well the US insurance company doesn’t care about your pain, in fact if you die then they save money, as its the long-term care that they fear, not the short term death.
Oh one last thing, the COVID with HIV strand’s that’s not possible in the ‘wild’ this virus is-was MAN-MADE, Made in USA, and delivered by Trump back in Sep to USA, and to China in Oct-2019 ‘mil games’, and then to Iran in Dec for the meetups to follow soleimani’s murder
Covid-19 may not be a bio weapon but it is certainly being used as an economic weapon against China, cutting supply chain. It is also being used to deflate the Wall Street bubble, to spread the deflationary pain across all sectors, and to provide the opportunity for some Shock Doctrine corporate socialism handouts.
The global reaction is totally out of proportion with the actual threat. I say this as a highly qualified specialist in infectious diseases who has dealt with outbreaks and written books.
Btw – Craig Murray wrote a great heartfelt piece on the coronavirus. The voice of reason and humanity IMO.
Craig Murray writes.
That should be “memento mori”. Just a typo.
COVID19 has HIV and testicular genes inserted onto its coronavirus backbone. This is a miracle of evolution by any measure, even for Mother Nature.
The Deep State controls stock markets, bond markets, central banks, militaries, medicine, academia, politicians, viruses, and even weather – except for global temperature, which is a really big exception.
Today, the global average temperature was the highest ever in the some 300,000 years of Homo sapiens existence here on planet earth. And tomorrow, our temperature will be incrementally higher still.
Yes, we can accurately measure the global average temperature, and the trend is unmistakable.
So, why aren’t we talking about doing something to help cool Mother Nature?
A warmer world is a better world. Life is far more abundant and diverse in the equatorial regions compared with the higher latitudes. But the warming has also greened the higher latitudes and crop yields have never been higher. The increased CO2 now at 0.04% in the gas atmosphere enables greater plant growth due to photosynthesis. Without CO2 dissolved in the oceans and the gas atmosphere all plant life would die off.
“So, why aren’t we talking about doing something to help cool Mother Nature?”
For almost all of her life so far, Mother Nature has been much warmer than today. Often MUCH warmer. At present she is wearing a woolly undervest, several layers of wool, a scarf and a woollen beanie.
“Avoiding the Coming Ice Age” – Dmitri Orlov
” why aren’t we talking about doing something to help cool Mother Nature?”
Because most people are not so silly.
Because cold kills people.
The way I think this whole thing works – the COVfefe, the reactions of the institutions and the officials, the media coverage, the social media clash, the behaviour of the Market movers and shakers, is by stacking mild non-critical yet prominent negative effects on different systems organisational levels (healthcare, suplly chains, production, transportation, administration, supply and procurement, service operations) which when amplified through media/perception/hybrid tactics synergize toward local halt of the system. Those halts reverberate across the system, it is like a sequenced demolishon explosion work, at one moment the system itself will grind to stop and collapsed over itself. It is perfect storm deliberately managed to evoke systemic level shocks through multilayered mechanisms and complex vectors with tactical, operational and strategic levels of operation. And everything is wrapped in plausible deniability, too damn good plausible deniability.
Who’s holding the weapon and who’s looking at it from the other side?
We are looking at the biggest system level event since 2008 and with the current speed of unfolding it looks like soon it will be the biggest since WWII.
“300 US military personnel arrived in Wuhan for the Military World Games on October 19. The American contingent did so abysmally, that many have wondered if the American standards of performance has lowered, or that the participants were there for another purpose.
“They claim the inattentive attitude and disproportionately below average results of American athletes in the game indicate they might have been in for other purposes and they might actually be bio-warfare operatives, and that their place of residence during their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Hunan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the first known cluster of cases occurred.”
The first coronavirus case appeared two weeks later, on November 2. [renamed to COVID-19]”
I’m fairly certain that American military personnel will perform abysmally against any competent military force anywhere in anything at all as long as you take push button long distance video game warfare out of the picture.
“Keep in mind that the Coronavirus incubation period is 14 days. So, fourteen days later…
On December 31, 2019, the World Health Organization (WHO) was informed of an outbreak of “pneumonia of unknown cause” detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China – the seventh-largest city in China with 11 million residents.
January 7, 2020 Chinese officials announced they had identified a new virus. The novel virus was named by the WHO 2019-nCoV (exactly the same name as the virus pertaining to the John Hopkins simulation exercise, with the exception of the placement of the date).
Jan 20: Xi gave an official command to all levels of government to put lives and public health first, and effectively contain the virus spread.”
“Zaosong Zheng, 30, was arrested last month at Boston’s Logan International Airport and is charged with allegedly attempting to smuggle vials of biological materials and other research materials stolen from U.S labs. Zheng, who was a a Harvard-sponsored cancer researcher, has been indicted on that charge along with a count of making false statements.”
Biden + Obama 2.0, or Hillary C. … the usual madness at work.
The elites do not want the people to take the Sander’s road. Full stop.
So, it is just picking the jockey and their colors for the next term.
Trump has it in the bag to lose, imo.
Apart from all the stupid talk (to his deplorable’s) he is clearly focused on his ‘invisible hand’ protecting the markets and business elites with more bailouts as needed.
It is still difficult to work out the reality from the narratives.
As for source — there is some argument that it was the USA (and I personally don’t think deliberate) — just sloppy arrogance etc.
Here is one worth thinking about:
And another that suggests control of information before disease (also on MoA): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html
Imo, it is a high risk issue for the old and unhealthy. But it is also an opportunity to shift the blame for a failed economic model (post 2008) from the ideology to a ‘bug’ etc.
And here is the US health racket scam in all its glory. Message: you cannot go it alone — must have a protection racket to fall back on.
As for the economy it is on its knees already and looking increasingly like the 2010 “Lock Step” scenario playing out. https://www.globalresearch.ca/lock-step-no-futuristic-scenario/5705972
Lagarde Warns …
Boeing prepares for bank crisis?
Turkey-Russia — I assume the deal was done, and apart from some face-saving fireworks the Turks will pull back to allow the Russian-Syrian mop-up crew to finish the job. If not the what is Putin’s next option?
Russia-oil-SKA — a convenient twist on the US shale BS ‘economy’ although it looks like old King daddy of MbS is going to conveniently get the corona-virus sometime soon. This could lead to some interesting developments in the KSA, not the least between CIA-backed alternative ‘princes’ etc.
I beg to differ your view on Covid- though without proof there are reasons to believe that its may be a bio weapon aimed at achieving what the aborted war with Russia would have achieved. It could be trade war with China 2.0.
“Amid a nationwide lockdown to halt the spread of the virus, 12,462 people in Italy were confirmed infected yesterday with the coronavirus COVID-19—a jump of 2,313 in less than 24 hours. Overall, 1,028 patients are in critical condition, and 827 have died.
Even in relationship to China, the original epicenter of the pandemic, the intensity of the epidemic in Italy is reaching alarming proportions. While China has 56 coronavirus cases per million inhabitants, Italy has 206 cases per million inhabitants and a massive 6 percent death rate. In less than two months 827 people have died, while just over 500 people died of flu in Italy all of last year, making COVID-19 much deadlier.” WSWS
I would like to make a few points to how China stopped the spread of the disease.
One crucial part was Chinese herbal medicine (85% of patients were given herbs).
Herbs do work, I witnessed it first hand working in hospitals in China during SARS in 2003.
It played a major role then and it is playing a major role now.
The Chinese are open to using anything as long as it works. That approach will not be seen in the West.
Hubei had a much higher fatality rate than the rest of the country. 0.4% death rate outside Hubei in the country.
Only 1/3 of patients in Hubei got herbal medicine.
In Zhejiang were they had around 1200 cases they only lost one person.
They used everything there from western antiviral drugs to the most expensive western medical equipment that you will not easily find in many hospitals in the West.
Numbers will be overwhelming the health care system, hence a much higher fatality rate in Hubei.
2 new hospital build in record time. Several thousand army doctors flown in, a reaction we will not see in the West.
The death rate will be higher in the West (Italy above 6% at the moment). ICU’s are now given to younger
people, they have a bigger chance of survival, old people are left to die.
Just listen to an expert of the WHO, it speaks for itself.
What herbs? I saw one article about raw ginger, vitamin c, and another talking about Turmeric. But there are lots of Chinese herbal concoctions.
Look up mushrooms for immune building.
Non-medical, non-pharmaceutical approach.
What we get out of China, is the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) is used in an integrative approach .. not just a bunch of herbs to be swallowed :-).
There are other approaches where only TCM was used.
Here is one description on the integrative approach.
We also have a smaller group out of China, in Wuhan where their TCM practitioner says that all of his older patients that were prescribed and regularly drank Chaga tea, were resistant. His younger patients, not taking Chaga tea were not resistant. A very small group but nevertheless.
Non-medical, non-pharmaceutical – we now believe that Chaga Tea taken before you even get the virus helps tremendously with resistance and actually changes phase once you get it, and then it supplies a very strong immune support. In our household we’re taking Chaga Tea, Liposomal Vit C (antiviral and in liposomal form massively more bio-available), as well as Vit D but not in supplement form – a little sun bathing. We had a Iranian writer on the blog just a while ago, also saying to the Iranians .. get into the sun. So, these three form the basis but by no means the complete, of our own resistance program. On the link that the Saker gave to the health forum, this is detailed. Resistance is but step 1. The most dangerous part of this critter is the cytokine storm, after about 6 or 7 days post infection.
This is about COVID19 meets Turkey vs Syria.
I recall a board game created decades ago that had as a precept the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
The existence of these small nukes required armies to alter their tactics and not concentrate too many forces in one location.
When COVID19 makes it’s way to the battlefield in Syria will a change in tactics be demanded?
That is, will friendly units have to limit their commingling?
Will infected combatants surrender themselves so as to spread COVID19 to their enemy?
Will civilians that were once being used as a “shield” suddenly turn into liabilities as the civilians become a vector for COVID19 infection?
I have doubts whether coronavirus is “real”, in that it even exists (we are forced to trust the “experts” in medicine, are they like our “intelligence experts”?), or if it does, it’s not that bad and is being played up for political reasons. Reports indicate the Chinese are taking it seriously. What if a virus was engineered to look obviously created, but is not that dangerous. The Chinese overreact, the economy is disrupted, but the world doesn’t end. And noone says anything about it afterward.
Thanks for the update. Rest up and recuperate.
Looks like they got to Bernie, and he will go quietly. Time to thi nk “beyond. Bernie “.
Belisarius & Mike:
The Fed will paper it over like it did in 2008. The ultimate fail point is confidence in the dollar. It is hard to understand the degree to which the world is stuck with the dollar.
Tom, You are correct. In fact, the Federal Reserve just promised to dump a trillion dollars into the repo market. That will probably stabilize the stock market – at least in the short term.
But this is a debauchment of the currency. It may speed up the worldwide de-dollarization.
Put bluntly, if the US loses reserve currency status, it is “game over” for the American Empire.
That’s fine with me!
Bring it on, the sooner the better.
We were never supposed to be an Empire……and even though we were many decades before Karl Rove so disgustingly declared, “We’re an Empire now.”……………… that New World Order Bush League “news” was still profoundly disappointing to those Americans that ever had any republican ideals ….or took them at all seriously….ever.
Everybody else was, like …”Whatever! Nothing I can do or will do about it.”
There’s the national failure: Identity shrinkage. And we are not alone in that regard….not by a long shot.
Putin is indeed a one man show and that too is my concern for Russia and its positive role in the world at the moment. Putin has been fine but what happens when he goes sooner or later?
it is global ordinary interest that the passge of V Putin does not turn out to a ‘regime change’ in Russia..a reversion or reversal to such as Yeltsin etc
I am nto a fan of any and all forms of minority power…power that is parasite, does not participaite in production of the wealth that it consumes. I agree that a patriotic opposition is useful but what of it..what form should it take to be patriotoc?
who needs opposition for opposition sake?
the oppostion must be right and represent the interest of the people period. thats the most certain form of patriotism I know. and if Putin is that way to cant that opposition be legitmtaely called opposition..they would be in agreement with Putin by policy.
the definiton of the peoples interest is key..all should be able to agree with what proves to be right and work for its implementation. that is the keey to me..agreement by which I mean analysis, discussion…the whole process that produces agreement and general understanding and capability to participae in the process by ALL! lifting the popular interest into first place
the popular interest..the broad national interest dominant is what can subsume all hostile, competing class differences, develop general security and a progressive nation.
but key to this development is the fitness of the population to take part and so guarantee this process..a population that cannot be manipulated and overthrown like they were in the past by the revolutionary charlattans and vask killers and enslavers of the people
it would be wodnerful if V Putin now moves to develop population participation to educate the people fuly in their interest and the crucial need for them to creat ways to ensure their full parrticipation and literally domination of the democratic natiobnalism essential to national survival and the most full development of the nation.
hat is where I see the solution to human social problems is located..in the development of real popular democracy..the most full partricipation of the people in their social process, executive/direct participation and their own creation of the social structures by which this can be achieved. and itself creative means would differ every nation according to culture but multi natinalism is an accuarate impression of what a world would be called in which all people would be so freat to create for themslves that which works…. produces their own general security as they go
should Putin move this way he would solve the problem of his own succession magnificently..by setting up the Russian reality in a way that it could not be usurped into any capitalist oriented form on his succession. it would not matter the individual who actually became president. the people would be empowered..and that is the real solid, and permanent answer
the people mut be able to systematically obviate any possiblity that condtions would give give rise again to minority power. there must be no social point at all left, where such power can feed and rise to overthrow the popular democracy. that means that, means to resolve and meet all needs must set up..the society sets up to resolve all human problems to the best extent possible on the day, as society progresses
Of course COVID-19 isn’t a bioweapon. Why not? Because exactly who on earth would manage to benefit from using it at this point? With modern air travel any bioweapon would spread across the world before it could do anything much to damage its primary target. If China was the primary target, what did whoever deploy the virus expect, the collapse of the People’s Republic? What actually happened? China has successfully almost eradicated the virus already and it’s the potential “creators” of this alleged “bioweapon” that are suffering far greater troubles. How does that match the idea of a bioweapon? Actually, to be frank, bioweapons are stupid. If they’re very lethal, a disease on the level of say Ebola, they don’t spread far because sufferers die quickly. If they’re not very lethal, on the level of COVID-19, they spread all over including right back to your own homeland. So, no, it can be safely said that it’s not a bioweapon. Apart from which even if you could tweak a bioweapon to be dangerous only to one particular genetic group, say East Asians (or Arabs), there’s one big problem. Microoganisms mutate. They mutate extremely quickly. They mutate to take advantage of any ecological niche they can find. Before you can say “biogenocide” those carefully crafted anti East Asian viruses will mutate to take advantage of the genes of, say, Europeans, and then where are you? Up the creek, that’s where.
Well, Bill (the butcher, I presume) … your point makes sense if you apply a normal nationalist framework.
However, there are other possible perspectives involved (never let an opportunity go to waste).
For example, a class struggle situation — perhaps the 1% against the 99%?
The banking systems in the West (at least) are crumbling and the whole system is only propped up since 2008-crisis with social support by the central banks (&Fed in the USA) bailing out the bandits with never-ending QE fueling irrational markets and moral hazard including metals manipulation and company share buy-backs to keep the illusion of ‘ever upwards’ on the monitor screens.
What do you think these types will do if/when the system is going to crash? Panic and invoke all manner of command-and-control powers to ensure the people do not wake up, rise up and demand a solution to the systemic issues, and likely the ideological faults of the prevailing economic narratives. What better way to disguise this (and if necessary bring it forward a bit) than to invoke emergency measures on a bad case of the flu (dangerous for the unwell and elderly)? Perhaps consider the “Lock Step” scenario of 2010. https://www.globalresearch.ca/all-sectors-us-establishment-lock-step-deep-states-latest-bio-war/5702773
Now I notice India has just invoked a British colonial Act from 1897 with (British) Indian Penal Codes of 1860 applying:
“The Epidemic Diseases Act, 1897 is a law which was first enacted to tackle bubonic plague in Bombay state in former British India. The law is meant for containment of epidemics by providing special powers that are required for the implementation of containment measures to control the spread of the disease. Following the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic the Cabinet Secretary of India on 11 March 2020 announced that all states and UTs should invoke provisions of Section 2 of the Epidemic Diseases Act, 1897.”
Indeed, in the soon to be most populated region in the world (> China in 2025) we have this now in effect. It will be an interesting court event for the Hindutva nationalists to fall back on these old colonial laws to push their anti-Muslim agenda (perhaps enhanced within these emergency decrees) … my bet is there will now be some urgent legislation updating in due course… 1860 is long way back in time!
“3. Penalty.—Any person disobeying any regulation or order made under this Act shall be deemed to have committed an offence punishable under section 188 of the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860).”
First, a Kashmir lock-down. Now the whole country. (When did Trump pas through last?).
Indeed, from one point of view it is just a medical issue and public health pandemic response.
From another, it is having the same or similar ‘defibrillation’ shock effect as ‘9/11’ on a globalized chaos-system slipping into fibrillating melt-down (see James Gleick 1987 “Chaos: Making a New Science”).
One view does not preclude the other.
Now what was that quote by the current ruling class of the once-great Britain (also of India)? … “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.” (Prince Philip, the Queen’s consort 1988)”
Perhaps he’s already passed over and we just don’t know it …? But more seriously, I hope you see the point is potentially beyond nationalism, but not beyond control.
One possible angle into the massive outbreak of covid-19 in Wuhan the way it did. I would say that China was not expected to overcome the contagion in a short 3-4 months effectively. It did disrupt its int’l supply chain, and growth forecast for a season or two. The total lockdown of a province, and other infected provinces, stopped the contagion in its track sooner rather than protracted. Now not only is it open for business as ‘usual’, but it is also sending medical teams and necessary equipment & protective supplies to other nations to contain the spread. Did this go down well w/the hegemon? We see the heightened animosity & indefensible blame game from politicians & MSM in America against China – wott! The coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan failed its mission big time. That is the real shocker for the American deep state.
I have said many times and I repeat that Putin must establish a clear and reliable line of succession. The apres moi l’deluge approach won’t work. There are far too many potential Yeltsins waiting in the wings and the Russian people no longer have any stomach for revolution.
As for Burnie, I have always regarded him as a political tool, nothing more. Biden is irrelevant. Unless something colossal happens to upset things – like say if Trump gets Coronavirus in his tweeting finger – said Trump is guaranteed a second term. Candidate Trump was ostensibly a rebellious force in 2016. President Trump is openly the Wall Street and zionist lobby establishment creature in 2020. I see no reason to care about this “election”. I’ve been watching elections since 1984, real and fixed, and of all fixed elections I have never seen one so fixed.
“I have said many times and I repeat that Putin must establish a clear and reliable line of succession”
I disagree heartily. To start with President Putin cannot do that, as there is no mechanism in the modern Russia he is building to do so. V.V. is a man of Law before everything – well, after being a Serving Officer of his country.
There is no law which specifies this must happen in Russia, in fact, Putin has said over and over, that power comes from the people, who must vote for the next successor. Now, it’s true, it’s an accepted tradition that the retired leader nominates a preferred successor, as Yeltsin did with him, but thats all.
However, it’s a mistake to rely on one person. it’s the system in place, which governs everything in the end, that is key and most important.
No-one can take V.V’s. place, because he is unique. We all are of course, but he more than anyone. His combination of person, character, values and integrity, plus education and training from University [in law], KGB in human relationships and International Relationships, deputy mayor of a major city after USSR collapse, are in themselves very special and unique.
So people need to forget weeping about “what will we do when Putin goes” and ask “how does our system protect us and help us find the best way to live and govern”.
That is the key, and with these changes to the Constitution, which, as Putin said, are for the next 50 or so years, long after we are ALL gone on, that is what he is doing.
exactly..most definite a start in the right direction
someone above pintedly remarked that the Russian people are tire of revolution. Really?
it might be sanguine to ask ‘is revolution tired of you?’
there is always one answer..the world is what it is..and the right answer. only in the total realization of the popluar interest can democracy be achieved and guaranteed. the re-rise of parasitic minority interest to the social power can take place only in the vaccum whare the popular interest is supposed to live
that is what wer supposed to do..to do whatever is necessary to bring forwrd the popular interest in organzational forms that dominate socially, extend the hands of the people on the social power and keep them there executing the popular interest at all times. the peoples interest in power at the expense of the exploitation is the answer now, much less for when Putin moves on.
and to the extent Putin brings the popular interest forward systematically is to the extent he protects and extends the nation, and its achievements since the fall of the Soviets.
if the people are tired then Putin has energy enough to mind the popular interest currently, and bring it forward, in the resting and re-energizing of the pople, to move on powerfully when he is done
Cheap Chinese vaccine cure – never mind only offering it at a high price.
Imagine it cost $1 – how would the US medical system cope with offering it to people for less that $1000?
That 16% of GDP isn’t made up of cheap services that work.
Oil – in 40 years time renewables will be way way cheaper than oil. They are already cheaper than coal. There will be no oil (or gas) market. Saudi has 90 odd years of reserves – doubling production has to be one of MBS’s key strategies. Ditto most others. Just getting Venezuela pumping is a massive threat – it has bigger reserves than Saudi but pumps nothing.
US shale – they say it has hedged future supplies out to 2029, and that US bankruptcy means that existing assets just get passed onto a new owner without debt, so they keep pumping. But 1. massive derivative exposure in oil related products could cause real problems in collecting on those hedges. And 2. Shale projects are short term. Most will mature in a couple of years and then new project decisions will have to be made – or rather rejected.
5) Biden vs Bernie:
The Dems were terrified that Sanders would get the nomination.So they acted like Dems do and rigged the vote.They got their media stooges to attack Sanders,and that didn’t work.They tried to pump up some of the other candidates,and that didn’t work.They tried messing with the voting in the elections,totals that were off,closed polling stations,etc,etc.But finally ,they found the key.They got most of the other candidates to drop out,and endorse Biden.Except for the one that they knew would divide Sanders ultra liberal voters.That one they got to stay in the race.Making sure that Sanders couldn’t win.And they know that African-American voters follow their leaders more so than other voters.So they got most of the major African-American leaders to endorse Biden.And even President Obama made phone calls to get leaders to support Biden.Couple that with the major media campaigning for Biden while trashing Sanders at the same time.And it finally won for them.
They are hopping to use a similar plan against Trump.Have the media trash Trump daily,OK,they do that now.But ramp it up on steroids.Push the coronavirus panic as hard as they can.While blaming Trump for it as much as possible.Get social media to block as much of Trumps ads and video’s as possible.Don’t report about Biden’s massive flaws.And do as much as they can to trash the economy before the election as possible.All the while blaming Trump for it as well.They are hopping all that will be enough for the deep state to regain full power again.And if and when that happens,they will be free to strike at Russia.You know,the Russia the Dems keep claiming is the US’s mortal enemy and Trumps boss.Yea,that Russia.There is no way if they win they won’t use the Russia-hoax to cause all kinds of trouble.They’ve been lusting for revenge for 4 years now,and they intend to get it after they win.
Yes, and then Trump pulls a pardon on Julian Assange for a dump of relevant Wikileaks DNC data at the appropriate time. He won’t need to, imo. Trump will win another term against old Joe Biden and the Democrat 1% will party on whinging until 2024 or whenever.
This was forwarded to me by my friend, a pulmonologist from the Clinical Centre in Belgrade.
The virus is physically large, heavy and therefore does not hover but falls, it lasts for 5-10 minutes on the hands, on the suit and fabrics for a few hours, on the metal (locks, etc.) for up to 12 hours.
Resistant to t> 23C. Therefore, you should wash your hands with warm water, expose yourself to the sun, wash your wardrobe and loosen in the sun.
Because of its size, it does not easily pass through protective masks – wear masks!
5-10 minutes, as long as the virus lingers on the hands, is a long period, because during this time it can get on your food, touching the nose, eyes, mouth … So often wash your hands with warm water.
Of course, avoid overcrowded places, large social gatherings …
The virus first settles in the nose and throat, scratching, teasing.
It does not cause nasal secretion (mucus) (important for differentiating it from other viral infections!)
If infected, drink hot drinks, warm water, do not use cold and ice.
Rinse your throat (Betadine’s throat suggestion) to try to flush it out. They also cough up here, dry, irritable, with no secretions (phlegm). There is no fever. So, most importantly, there is no excess nasal mucus and no phlegm. The first phase lasts 2-4 days.
After that, after 5-6 days, the virus can enter the lungs and then an elevated fever occurs, dry cough and shortness of breath are a sign that the virus is in the lungs.
So try not to get the virus into your lungs.
The safe distance from the infected is> 3m.
My dear friends, I hope this guide helps you stay healthy!
You said: (a) Putin is a one man show, not a stable system, which is what Russia truly needs.
My view: Putin is eminently aware of this and he intends to use the possible extension of his tenure to see that this matter is taken care of.
You said: (b) There are no viable successors to Putin (at least none that I know of.)
My view: Putin is also aware of the 5th Column in Russia’s midst, and he knows that when (a.) is taken care of, it can be assumed that the “Atlanticists” et al will be of the past.
However, in light of current world developments, the “Home Office” of all 5th column elements will soon be eliminated.
Dmitry Orlov does think that the Coronavirus is likely a bio-warfare weapon.
But it was not necessarily designed to be used on the military battlefield per se but rather to advance what could be called American political, information, and economic “hybrid war” against China:
First, the Chinese government has treated the epidemic as an act of war, deploying all the means at its disposal, including the military, in order to contain its spread, building several large new hospitals, putting entire huge cities under quarantine and extending the national holidays. The response as been far beyond what this virus seems to warrant, with its low mortality rate. Without saying so, the Chinese government has treated this epidemic as an act of biological warfare—perhaps as a dry run for a more lethal epidemic that may come in the future. At any rate, the Chinese government is seeing to it that nobody can blame it for not taking the problem sufficiently seriously, or not doing enough about it.
Second, the Western media response has been an exemplary effort to produce a panic and to smear China, making what is happening there into a horror story. Not only did the mass media outlets do their best to stoke mass hysteria about all things Chinese, but various bloggers and independent “experts” pitched in to produce a panic. There seems to have been a policy-driven reorientation from Russophibia (where it has been high time for the US to silently admit defeat and move on) to Sinophobia (where the US is yet to have its ass handed to it on a plate). Those notionally independent commentators who are exploiting this opportunity to attack China are acting as useful idiots in this centrally choreographed media campaign.
Third, the White House has recently requested that experts look into the possibility that 2019-nCoV has been genetically engineered. It is often the case that the person who shouts “Catch the thief!” the loudest happens to be the thief himself. I suspect that the next move will be to declare that this virus is indeed an engineered biological weapon developed by… why, Russia, of course, and Mr. Putin personally.
Taking all of this into account, the scenario that seems most plausible to me was that this virus was genetically engineered in one of the Pentagon’s biological weapons laboratories and introduced into China via infected wild bats, having picked the technology and manufacturing mecca of Wuhan as a target. The ultimate goal, one might surmise, is to induce US corporations to repatriate production to the US mainland in order to “make America great again.”
A Most Convenient Virus
I would also mention that there are likely other political and economic agendas involved such as destabilizing and even “regime changing” Iran, where an astounding 10% of Iran’s legislature now have the Coronavirus!
What are the odds of that infection rate happening naturally?
Iran: Regime Change by Coronavirus?
Nearly 10% of Iranian lawmakers infected with coronavirus, state media reports
Then there is the economic agenda behind the Coronavirus, as it essentially provides the ultimate excuse/fairy tale for the Sheeple to believe as the cause of the looming collapse of the American/Western Ponzi scheme/financial system (aka the Everything Bubble).
The current Coronavirus media hysteria, economic shutdowns, quarantines can help condition the Sheeple to believe that it is the so-called Black Swan event of the Coronavirus that is the root cause of the Everything Bubble popping and subsequent Great Recession 2.0–rather than the parasitic nature of the American financial Oligarchy, which has created this bubble in the first place.
Certain websites for the investor class are already pushing this Black Swan/Coronavirus propaganda meme:
The Coronavirus Is The Pin Popping The ‘Everything Bubble’
Saker…About the two things I agree with you on from above is the idea of an independent Gabbard/Paul 2020 then 2024 run for the Presidency. The other thing for later. Now, to spackle a bit of gloss over the bleak level of patient services in our healthcare system you clearly hold, let me share an alternative view. Recently I was challenged by a very serious medical condition. Now realize, I had not seen a white coat for 34 years prior for many of the same perceived reasons you cited and the fact I was in peak physical condition for most of my life; performing some incredibly strenuous outdoor activities almost as a matter of habit.
Having been under constant observation for 6 days by a nursing staff of what I can only describe as the most caring, competent hospital staff I could have imagined in my head…four subsequent surgery’s with the exact same level of outstanding care, skill and competence, I have come away from the experience with a newfound appreciation for what those kind doctors, nurses and orderly’s do on a daily basis. They most certainly brought my health back by accurate diagnosis and effective treatment. Pretty high level procedures too. Now, I live in a small city in the rural part of Washington State with an outstanding hospital, the very reason I ended up here and can’t speak for other parts of this big world. Just wanted you to know it’s not all bad.
Finally, being I’ve had some down time to ponder this rather kakistocratic trend the US has been in, I very much do see the deeply contentiousness a Biden/whoever presidency would cause and no doubt predict like you high levels of civil unrest. He is a gun grabber after all, and I can assure you that’s a nogo from the gitgo in many parts of my beautiful state. Just think of the Richmond, VA rally during last month’s Lobby Day. Will be no different in April when my fellow gun owners meet in Olympia capital.
Trump on the other hand is moving in the right direction on many fronts to cull the deep stater’s from being anywhere near him. Bolton is gone(big reason for many of his middle east blunders), Meadows is his new chief of staff, a guy who doesn’t have a betraying bone in his body and I give Trump a ton of credit for having close to him 3 young adult children who by every measure are astute and capable thinkers. Trump is the quintessential CEO from my prospective of having worked for more than a few in my lifetime. His faculties and energy level for a man of his age is really quite impressive. Every CEO has to be comfortable at the cheerleading role, Trump no less and possibly his strongest character trait. It is an essential component to demonstrate to your subordinates that you are 100% passionate and committed to your products and services.
Durham will speak soon and the traitors to the Constitution and Trump and all of us will be fleshed out. Sen. Ron Johnson is digging into the obvious corruption abroad, Bidens’ included and the real scumbags like Epstein or Weinstein are dead or in jail with many more heading in that same direction soon.
Finally, the elephant in the fakestream’s myopic focus, the coronavirus. As someone who majored in biology, the level of hype being done about an illness on par with what you are recovering from, the same for the vast majority who contract the covid virus, this panic mode pressed daily to new ridiculous levels is most certainly a intended psyop to cover for a yet to be revealed reason. I also see it as a lock down exercise by those who would shirk right past my civil rights without thought; in other words revealing themselves to me. I ask, do you worry constantly about contracting a flu or cold like we see with covid virus today? Really seems like I’m being dosed with fear porn over something that common sense hygiene will virtually eliminate the chances of catching. Summer months are not far, and what happens to the incidence of the influenza and cold virus in the summer months…goes way, way down. This virus is no different. Just keep that bottle of Purell handy when travelling and don’t be shy about using it.
This hodge-podge of current events has opened up many amazing replies, many of which I agree with. I consider myself much less of a non-expert than all of these who express my suspicions better than I could. From constant observation, I am left with suspicions, opinions, and questions.
From Mr. Putin’s own comments, I get the sense that he would just as soon not serve another term. If he does so, it is not from a lust for power. I’m really getting beyond annoyed by comments and articles I read which defame him and Russia as a totalitarian state with goals to reestablish the U.S.S.R. and China as also a cruel dictatorship. One huge problem I have with such accusations, especially against China is that we have been fed so many lies it is difficult to know what is real and what isn’t. The iconic picture of the student standing in the middle of the road in Tiennemen SQ. stopping the advance of the tanks. Or so we were told. I’ve read that in fact, those tanks were moving in the other direction, away from the student! Having vented that, part of me wishes Mr. Putin could stay forever. Of course, that cannot happen. A less selfish part of me wants him to have a few years of rest before he has to depart. I have read predictions by some more recent Orthodox Saints and elders who saw the coming communist blood bath in Russia and the apostasy of many. They also saw a final Czar appearing soon before the final antichrist. Is it possible that Vladimir Putin though not having that title or position technically, is that final Czar? Saker?
Turkey? My view has not changed. Erdogan can never be trusted. He is stuck on stupid so I expect betrayal from him.
Biden and Bernie? LOL, I was listening to a doctor (Crawford?) interviewed last night. He explained how newly elected are brought in and given their orders by those who have been at the trough forever. This is why Biden could insult Sanders or he can be cheated out of the nomination by Hillary and the DNC and still say Joe is his friend and he supports Hillary. To do otherwise would make them irrelevant in the House or Senate. Given this situation, I can see why the only honest choice thus far might be Tulsi Gabbard. She is leaving government after this presidential run so we could hope she is not beholden to them now. Of course, it won’t matter because the establishment have thrown a blanket over her and she doesn’t have a chance. Even to run as an independent, without the money backing many won’t know enough about her to win their vote. I put this down to their laziness and neglect as much as her lack of funding.
Oil wars? What is likely in the works is going to be very difficult for all but I can’t help salivating just a little at the prospect of the U.S. suffering some payback. Trump has been boasting on their greatest economy in history and that they are oil independent and an exporter. Turns out, this is all based on major debt from the very beginning. Shale fracking is a really stupid use of freshwater (except when the only thing one cares about is money and power) and it is not sustainable. They might spend billions more to find another vein of oil but they are soon used up. I wasn’t the least surprised that Trump said they may bail out the energy sector. He will be ordering the bailout of the entire corporate sector by the time this all unravels. We are talking about the total enslavement of every country that is ensnared in debt by the western sponsored banking system.
The virus? There are a lot of very interesting comments about this. I don’t see this as an accident and I would ask: if it isn’t really serious, that is if it is mostly just hype, why the severe measures to try and contain it all over the planet? Of course, we don’t know what the real state of things is in the U.S. because they have not been testing. Someone could die from this and vaping would be blamed.
I can’t really accept the view that, for example, the U.S. would not create such a bioweapon and release it in case it blew back on them. I read about martyred saints and the lives of the Holy Apostles every day. There are so many examples where there was Divine intervention that one would think the persecutor would stop in fear. Some did. Many doubled down on their evil. A modern-day example of psychopaths would be revealed by military veteran and expert on the use of depleted uranium by the U.S. He approached his superiors with his evidence and findings. Their reaction? He said ‘they didn’t care’!
It looks to me Corona is going to be used as the excuse for why the economic system has crashed and burned. In reality, this is being done deliberately so the international bankers and their associates can get a stranglehold on the world. It’s my understanding Russia has no debt so speak of, but they still have this banking system as part of their own government. I don’t know how they will respond to what is unfolding but they are in much better shape than Trump’s ‘greatest economy the world has ever seen’ fiction.
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South China Morning Post reported that Chinese epidemiologists tracked the virus to a visiting delegation from South Korea.
It made sense that Anglozions could not directly infect Wuhan so they could vector in via S. Korea, where angloZ’s are.
Why target Wuhan? If China’s level 4 lab is there, (some say so), then a planted outbreak around the site makes it look like it escaped the local lab.
The Skripals in Britain near the lab there made that lab look suspect, perhaps to be decommissioned.
If reasonable governments close their bioweapons programs everywhere else then US would be last one standing — winner, to themselves.
Saker, that’s the motive I see moving anglozions against humankind: Rule the World.
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Why Is the US Apparently Not Testing for the COVID-19 Coronavirus?
By Larry Romanoff, March 06, 2020,
The CDC produced a series of test kits that produced wildly random results, positive or negative, followed by instructions to discard the test kits as unreliable. (1) Several U.S. states said the new coronavirus test kits did not work, while others said they were totally unreliable. (2) New York City reported the government-issued tests are faulty and “cannot be relied upon to provide an accurate result”. Those faulty kits were also shipped all over the world, but to my knowledge the CDC have relayed that information to no one outside the US.
I think that that there must be many cases of covid 19 in the communities. This is because all these celebrities must be getting infected somehow. If these celebrities are truly infected there must be very many possibly millions of undiagnosed cases. This would mean that this is hardly a dangerous virus with mortalities of only a few 100 in the UK for example. It would mean Corona virus was 99% hoax.
It seems unlikely Iran or China would help adversaries in any kind of chicanery.
This Corona virus could be natural it could be be manufactured.
Say it is less dangerous than average flu but the Americans spread the virus on an industrial scale in China and Iran and that this overwhelmed the systems of these countries. Many died simply because of a massive and unprecedented rate of infection. This fooled them into believing in a truly dangerous new virus which is now now naturally receding.