by Paul Craig Roberts reprinted by special permission
The “Dancing Israelis” who turned out to be Israeli Mossad agents caught filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers. Arrested by police and released without investigation, they were not mentioned in the 911 Commission Report. Later on Israeli TV they said they were sent to New York to film the destruction of the twin towers. Allegedly, there was no advance warning of the event, but obviously the Israelis knew.
The alleged fundamentalist orthodox fanatical Muslims who were prepared to die to be martyrs, but who drank, drugged, and lived with strippers and prostitutes in Florida. They were the patsies paraded through flight schools and left a highly visible public record. They all flunked out and could not even fly small planes, but performed miraculous flight feats in their attacks on the WTC towers and Pentagon that military and civilian airline pilots say are beyond their own skills. These Saudi Arabians were being operated by US or Israeli intelligence to create a record to serve as a parallel patsy operation that could be used to cover up the false flag attack.
Numerous video cameras recorded whatever exploded at the Pentagon, but the FBI has refused to release them for 18 years. Clearly, the videos do not support the official story.
About half of the alleged hijackers have been found alive and well and deny that they had ever left their countries.
In 2001 no cell phone calls were possible from aircraft at the altitudes from which calls were reported.
The airliners that allegedly hit the twin towers were flimsly compared to the steel and concrete of the towers. The airliners would have smashed against the structure and fallen to the street below.
Pre-knowledge of 9/11 was widespread. The stocks of the two allegedly hijacked airlines were sold short prior to the event, resulting in large profits when the stocks fell in response to the hijackings. The short-sellers were swept under the carpet and not investigated.
FBI director Robert Mueller was instrumental in covering up for the false official story of 9/11, a story that has zero evidence in its behalf.
If a handful of young men with no intelligence service or government support can defeat the entire national security state of the United States and all of its NATO and Israeli allies and successfully attack with devastating results both New York and the Pentagon itself—the very symbol of American military supremacy—the Soviet Union could have wiped out the US and all of Europe without detection. Don’t you wonder how we survived the Soviet Union when the “Great American Superpower” was so easily defeated by a handful of young Saudi Arabians?
Four hijacked airliners are alleged hijacked, all at airports served by an Israeli security company. All four airliners allegedly crash. Two into the WTC towers, one into a field in Pennsylvania, and one into the Pentagon. Yet no airliner debris exists. The Pentagon’s lawn is not even scratched.
The President of the United States refuses to testify before the 9/11 Commission unless he is accompanied by his handler, Vice President Cheney. Both refuse to testify under oath. The 9/11 Commission is oh-so-respectful to the distinguished president and vice president.
One member of the 9/11 Commission, a US Senator, resigned from the Commission, saying that “the fix is in.” After the Commission report was issued, the Commission chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel wrote books in which they said that information was withheld from the Commission, that the Commission was lied to and considered refering the false testimony to the Justice (sic) Department for prosecution, and that “the Commission was set up to fail.” And not a peep from the controlled pressitute media whose only function is to deliver the controled explanations that the ruling oligarchs want planted into Americans’ minds.
Tennants of the WTC buildings reported constant noises, floors sealed off, service disruptions and that the excuse was the installation of fiber optic cable. If the buildings faced condemnation as reported because of asbestos fireproofing, who would go to the expense of installing fiber optic cable to upgrade the Internet capability of condemned buildings?
Scientists have found reacted and unreacted nano-thermite and other elements used in controlled demolition. They have proved the existence of these elements. They have samples from the WTC dust left which they have offered to scientists and governments for testing in order to prove or disprove their own findings. No takers.
Instead, we have the appearance of nonsensical claims that the WTC buildings were brought down by a directed energy weapon and by nuclear bombs. These are preposterous allegations, the purpose of which is the deliberate creation of disinformation in order to focus attention away from the false official story and bury it in disagreements about what caused the buildings to fail.
I have checked with weapons specialists who are critics of US government foreign policy and who monitor every development in weapon systems in the US and Russia. This is what they tell me: “I can confidently state that no direct energy weapon, capable of demolishing such a structure at the Twin Towers, existed in 2001, nor does it exist today.”
Another reported that there are lab tests of directed energy in Russia but no deployed weapon. He suggested that people who believe in this fantasy story should explain the safe source of high energy that the alleged weapon used, and how it was moved on site and removed without detection. Moreover, a directed energy burst would show on detectors which monitor the electromagnetic spectrum. No such evidence exists. Since no such weapon has ever been tested to bring down skyscrapers, why would the government take the risk of using such a weapon for the first time in a public scenario where who knows what could go wrong and explanations would have to be given? And why reveal to foreign powers the existence of such a weapon? Controlled demolition is an old and familiar technology that works. And it did.
I could go on and on.
As I wrote in a previous column, when Americans fell for the 9/11 deception, they lost their country, and peoples in seven countries lost their lives, limbs, and families.
Original source: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/09/11/some-of-the-many-things-most-americans-never-heard-about-9-11/
… so what transformed 80% of the twin towers into dust ?
The answer to the above is not thermite.
Thermite was used only to cut some sections of steel to tell the fairytale an aeroplane had flown through and taken out that steel.
There is only one answer for such dustification and it’s not preposterous !
“An absolutely preposterous idea my Dear Holmes.”
“Yes Watson, that’s why you are Watson and I, Holmes, and stop shaking violently when you say preposterous.”
I agree Paul and the sad fact is that until the true is found and used in this fight – the fight won’t even be able to begin.
The buildings obviously take the shape of a controlled demolition. It is pointless to argue about whether it was nukes or directed energy or thermite. The point is it was a false flag, and bickering within the 9/11 truther community only leads to division, and those screaming about nukes in the twin towers also discredit the entire movement by making it look fucking insane. Let go of the ego for a minute and just focus on the facts that DO matter – The fact that 9/11 was a false flag with Saudi, Israeli, and US involvement.
Yes, 9/11 was a false flag. Those buildings fell vertically, with perfect mathematical precision. The official explanation was that the fuel from the airliners melted the girders, causing the buildings to collapse. However, the architect of the buildings stated on numerous occasions that they took into consideration the fact that, theoretically, a plane could crash into the buildings. They thus made those buildings stronger than they had to be. Also, if you look into the released videos, you will see the strange phenomena of airliners, made from aluminium, penetrating buildings made from concrete and steel (the noses of the planes penetrated the buildings, as did their bodies and wings. Even the small tails did the same. How is this possible ?). Did people see real planes striking the buildings, or did we see holograms ? To these facts we should add photographs which appeared on the Internet, showing steel girders neatly cut in half. Only an explosion can do that, and not heat from aircraft fuel.
The aim of this false flag was to invent excuses for subsequent invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. Afghanistan was invaded for it’s geostrategic position, for it’s mineral wealth, and also for it’s heroin. Iraq was also invaded for it’s geostrategic position, for it’s oil, and also to prevent Saddam Hussein selling oil in euros. After Baghdad was taken, the new Iraqi Government had to sign over to Anglo-American oil firms some 82 % of Iraqi oil fields.
As a final thought, I think it is both incredible and outrageous that a false flag of that magnitude could have been implemented without people asking obvious questions. Even so, it was done.
The ownership of the media that failed to lead the public search for answers to those questions need to explain their employees actions.
The employees did as told. Had they refused, they would have been fired, if not worse.
A 140 ton aircraft of Aluminium that fly at a 20 degree inclination will result is about 20 meter hight difference from wing tip to wingtip for its 60m wingspan.
Therefore the 45 ton fuel (50% of Boeing 777-200) will be breaking out from the torn Aluminium over at leat 3 stories.
The 6.2 diameter body will force through the square hollow section pillars and deform the lightweight slabs. If the slabs remain in tact the fuel will spread over three slabs. The drimpel at the lift-shaft is sufficient to dam 90 ton fuel on one floor. All fuel will then burn on the three separate floors. The 15-30 Ton fuel per floor will burn wide spread but still more the the side of the impact. Doors and walls will restrict the fuel. At the stage were the fire resistance are breached a localised collapse of a floor will occur resulting in Scenario 2.
Scenario 2 If the slabs were not kept in tact ont the sides (Likely the true state) All fuel will flow to the area of impact and to the lowest floor that was impacted. The only possible collapse will be a-symmetric.
The metal on metal impact will result in the column on the impact side to deform in relation to the hardness and shape of metal pieces. The body of about 80-100 ton will decelerate before it exist the row of columns.
This process will repeat with the light flooring system. (Making scenario 1 less likely). Then it will repeat with the internal columns and the second set of slabs and finally the row of exit columns.
The weight of a slab width of 6.2 is about 20 ton. If assumed that the forces are spread at a very low 22 degrees through these members we should account 80 ton resistance to the body per floor.
The result is a skew impact and material damage of starting at any rates of 10 to 100 times that on the exit side.
Ballistic tests on the Aluminium impact on the steel columns (Similar to lead bullets on hard steel) at the flight speed of 200 m/2 will be crucial to disprove symmetric collapse.
If you look at the videos of the “passenger plane” crashes into the two buildings, you will see that the subsequent explosions and flames flew outside the buildings, greatly reducing the possibility of steel girders melting, even if such a thing was really possible.
In 1945 a B-25 bomber crashed into the Empire State building in New York. Half the plane penetrated the building, while the other half fell on lower buildings. This means that the entire plane did not penetrate the building, as it broke in half. The fire that was caused by the crash was extinguished by fire fighters in just 40 minutes.
I suppose B-25 speed (and thus inertia moment) was much lower than those of B-737 though
Something had flown into towers. And i can not buy a hologram, that was moving from mile away into the target, and people all around could see it in daylight.
I also do not think human pilots did something impossible: we have a number of civic planes landed with all engines off, sometimes after S-turns, sometimes over unprepared abandoned airstrip. Granted, with some radio beacon in the towers it would be easier, but should be doable even in manual mode. Assuming u have a professional and suicidal pilot (therminally sick?)
If you look at the videos of the “planes” striking the towers, you will that the images of the towers are clear, while the images of the “planes” are blurred. Also, how many plane parts did they discover after the explosions ?
As Civil Engineer I argue from mechanics of material. I do not trust the videos circulated but assume there was a aircraft. Although the Boeiing 777 is slightly lighter than the 707 for which the structure was designed, therefore a strange choice, my argument is that a symmetric collapse can be disproven. The momentum of the aircraft is known as the weight of the aircraft plus fuel and load at no more than 0.95 Mach. By testing we can determine the deformation of the tower structure versus the deformation and loss of momentum of the aircraft. If the moment of the aircraft is lost rapidly the collapse must be A-Symetric.
A B-25 bomber weight is between 8 ton empty and 16 ton when fully loaded full at its maximum of 360 km/h (100m/s) we have a maximum momentum of 16*100 or kinetic energy of 1/2mv2 0.5*16*16*100.
Accordingly the 1600 ton.m/s was stopped in 8 meter. Deceleration 45 meter per second squared.
For the 777 we have 160-200 ton at 720 km/h (200 m/s) for a momentum of 200*200 = 40000 ton.m/s. This is 25 times more. The towers were 209 feet = 64 meter. the contact are will also be 3 to 4 times larger. This indicate that the 777 will be decelerate greatly within the structure. However the structural complexity should we considered if the figures are realistic.
Flying at 200 m/s a 1/4 sized airframe at a stock 75mm x 75mm square hollow section under controlled conditions with pinning simulating the 3.6 lengths between fixing (900mm) will prove the damage the 3/8 ” gussets plates underwent.
Secondly the test will show the concrete slab damage of the impact that passes the square hollow section.
Any damage to the flooring wil be near the impacted area and result in a A-symmetric collapse. So we should demand these tests.
> girders neatly cut in half
Were they? Maybe those were junction points between girder meshes sections?
And, external walls of the towers was hardly reinforced concrete, but rather some glass and tin decoration.
Also, old Soviet book teaching physics to kids says it is very important what is inside crashing object. It claim the empty glass jar thrown to concrete wall would just fall down in shards, as glass inertia is no enough to stick into concrete. But allegedly the same jar filled with vegetable oil, viscous and heavy, would have shards cutting into the concrete and sticking there, if thrown fast enough.
The steel girders were cut diagonally, and they were not junction points between girder meshes sections. The website which published them confirmed they were cut in half by the explosion.
The fakestream media presstitutes to a man STILL declare JFK, MLK and RFK to have been assassinated by lone gunmen. To deviate one nanometre would end you career as a professional disinformationist. 9/11 is a doddle.
Excellent comment, although I suspect that the Saudis were merely patsies, and the Sordid Barbarian regime was warned off making a fuss. Still, elements of Sordid ‘intelligence’ may have been in the know. And don’t forget the sayanim like Silverstein and Lowy, then in the cover-up.
Those that continually turn 9/11 discussions around to the exact nature of the agent of demolition do the truth movement a great disservice. Clearly, a demolition agent of some sort was used and endlessly arguing its exact nature is futile, always producing great heat but very little light. It is of most use to show that the official narrative is deeply flawed, and is also scientifically unsustainable. Truthers get usually bogged down or side-tracked when they try to go further than that.
The answer to the above is not thermite
Actually, it is. The thermite removed the supports and gravity did the rest.
As for DE weapons, they simply don’t exist, sorry.
With massive respect for you Saker, as I have avidly followed your analyses the past 6 years, because weapons “don’t exist” as far as is known within public and even conventional military circles – does not necessarily mean they cannot exist in some deep compartmentalised black ops research program.
It is why Einstein could say “I know not with what weapons WW-III will be fought – but WW-IV will be with sticks and stones”. Einstein knew all about the A-bomb and H-bomb, but that other devices were theoretically possible, hence he said he didn’t know. The stuff of science fiction often becomes reality.
I was once at a remote place in the north-west of the USA where people were in cabins and tents etc. We heard a low-flying fast loud military jet approaching from the south, where vision was blocked by high trees. We stared up realising it would soon appear above us. It then came directly overhead into the clear blue sky, it passed us making a very loud noise complete with the Doppler effect as it continued to speed away from us towards the north where we could watch the clear blue sky where this low flying jet was rapidly moving away til it went over a far horizon.
All of us were gob-smacked because hard as we looked – none of us could visually see anything! This jet was fully ‘cloaked’ to the naked eye. It was literally INVISIBLE. Several said that where it had disappeared over the horizon was a US Air Force base.
Having spent a few hundred hours watching and reading just a portion of the hundreds of hours of documentary videos, or the millions of words written by the many diligent researchers into the 9/11 false flag event, it is clear it was an incredibly highly coordinated and long planned event. It would have involved extensive compartmentalised secrecy.
It is obvious and proven fact that military grade nano-thermite was used. Some researchers say traceable by its chemical nature to Los Alamos military-industrial labs. This quality nanothermite enhanced the controlled demolitions of the three WTC skyscrapers – all brilliantly analysed by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Now proven as fact by the University of Alaska civil engineering dept 4 year study of the collapse of WTC7.
I used to assume that the Judy Woods ‘directed energy weapons’ (DEW) and the use of nukes were either silly theories or disinformation campaigns to sew the usual discord amongst researchers and the conspiracy theorist (a term which mostly equates to common sense scepticism) community to have us fighting each other and have the average Joe and Jane write off anyone not still brainwashed by the MSM.
However, a couple of years ago I looked at some of the videos, podcasts and writings about DEW allegedly used against WTC1, WTC2 and supposedly WTC6 (from whence the gold was stolen), and mini-nukes in the basements of WTC1 and WTC2. The evidence and theories just cannot be dismissed out of hand.
The evidence for DEW and nukes is definitely not as slam-dunk obvious as controlled demolitions of WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 – but the seismological evidence of basement explosions in WTC1 and WTC2 is on par with mini-nukes rather than conventional explosives. There is some evidence radioactivity consistent with nukes was found at Ground Zero.
I haven’t had time to look fully at the DEW stuff, but it is worth keeping an open mind from what I heard from a Judy Woods podcast. The disintegration of almost everything in the twin towers to fine dust does call for at least consideration of more than conventional explosives.
Of course a gravitational collapse like the official story has it is absolute bollocks. Where are all the floor slabs? Why didn’t WTC1, WTC 2, WTC7 fall asymmetrically and knock over other valuable Wall Street real estate? But presumably most reading this thread are long past considering the official nonsense.
Why would they use both DEW, mini-nukes as well as more conventional controlled demolition methods? Three reasons:
1) Redundancy to make sure the ‘job’ was fully done, that it was a successful false flag (not all went to plan as the ‘plane’ or ‘drone’ or whatever that crashed in Pennsylvania shows);
2) To field test/war-game some exotic deep black op weapon like DEW, as well as mini-nukes;
3) To sew discord amongst truth-seeking researchers who would find evidence of different methods, argue about it and be easier to dismiss.
‘They’ are pure evil, have been well-organised for a long-time, and control the compartmentalised deep black privatised military-industrial-security complex as well as financial and media systems.
Distinct from ‘how?’ and ‘why?’ – on the question of who? ‘they’ are – David Icke was interviewed this week on a 9/11 special of ‘London Real’ podcast by Brian Rose, and had interesting research to present. Now I don’t go along with all of Icke’s ideas. I used to think he was a complete crackpot, but as the years go by he’s been proved correct on some things. He certainly goes deep down rabbit holes that seem bizarre – and may be, but then if you really think about this world then blind chance materialism as the cause of everything doesn’t quite cut it either. This interview was Icke at his most lucid and detailed – describing the historical background and ideology/theology of groups that produced the ‘neocons’ who planned and executed 9/11. It is interesting:
The world appears more and more like a dystopian sci-fi movie.
“I used to assume that the Judy Woods ‘directed energy weapons’ (DEW) and the use of nukes were either silly theories or disinformation campaigns ”
I have to agree with or at least support the p.o.v. of view of Peter of Oz.
I had heard of Dr. Judy Wood but assumed she was way too far out there to be taken seriously.
However, a few days ago I actually sat down and watched her 2.5-hour presentation at a conference in the Netherlands. There was a link in the comments at the Whitney Webb article at the Unz Review.
Before anyone makes confident pronouncements as to what “could not happen because we do not know of such a weapon,” just watch her presentation first, then come back here and report what you think now. Remember: We don’t know what we don’t know.
Her fundamental position is: First we must *describe* the evidence; describe the *observed phenomena*.”
I have never seen such a detailed 9/11 presentation focusing on, primarily, not theories of who did it and why, or theories of how it was done, but photographs of physical events that ASAIK have escaped other close scrutiny—even though some of photos are famous. for example, photos of supposed flames, yet paper is not burning and and nothing is melting. Simply pointing to A, B, C, D, etc. and saying: How could this happen? This does not look like the results of heat, and here is why.
Judy Wood is not the only person who has asked, Candide-fashion: What happened to the b uildinkgs? Where’d they go? It would be interesting to do a computation of how long it took for construction mateirals to be trucked to the site when the buildings were constructed. Yes, there were a few beams lying around on 9/11. But basically the materials of the buildings just disappeared. There was no office furniture or office machines lying around, not bit of carpeting, no shards of glass, etc. There was, basically, nothing.
Saying X couldn’t have happened is putting the cart before the horse and is the same cognitive error as that made by those who label all who present hypotheses different from the official narrative as “conspiracy theorists.” So-called CTs are all trying to solve the crime with a solution that fit the evidence seen. Yet much of the evidence has not been taken into account and I now agree with Dr. Wood that a lot of assumptions turn out to be questionable when one looks closely at the physical evidence.
Dr. Judy Wood has interviewed many, many firemen who describe how the buildings just went “poof” above them, when they expected to be burned up or crushed under debris. She discusses other locations at the site, such as WTC6 and the anomalies of what occurred there in connection with other neighboring buildings. She shows videos and points out weird effects in these videos that others have not zeroed in on. She shows strange material transformations of vehicles that were blocks away from the WTC site and asks: What caused this? Not knowing the answer is *not* an excuse for pretending to have seen something else. Just admit: We don’t know. IMO there are too many phenomena shown and discussed in detail by Wood where IMO she is correct to state: These physical changes/effects were not caused by heat.
I have asked some friends to view this video *in its entirety*—it gets off to a bit of a weak start because of business with laser pointers etc.—because I would very much like to get their feedback and impressions. So far no one has done so.
This is the only presentation of hers that I have watched.
I do think you will be astounded by the oddities and anomalies she calls out.
BTW, hasn’t VVP said that the Russians studying cold fusion?
Katherine, interesting but I don’t know if it’s worth sitting through a 2 1/2 hour presentation. Can you provide any more details on her claim such as:
Technical and scientific information available to the public that she has cited, preferably in the peer-reviewed literature (not Youtube or blogs) that would describe the scientific and technical basis for constructing such a weapon?
Has she provided evidence that the US government has now or had in 2001 constructed, tested and incorporated such a weapon into their capabilities?
Has she constructed a model/prototype that would demonstrate the capabilities of such a weapon?
Sorry if these are difficult questions but, as they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
IMO your “demands” are not reasonable.
you are doing exactly what Wood (and I) call out:
Requiring an answer before defining or even grasping the question.
Classic cart before horse.
Fortunately Lister didn’t do this when he noticed that milk maids had a greater resistance to small pox than others. Just one example.
I have mentioned in my post some of the issues raised by Wood.
That already took my time.
I am not a scientist, do not claim to be one, and I have a day job.
I am taken aback that those who profess or imply that they are very interested in the 911 mystery have so little time.
I also have little time. However, I did take the time to watch this video.
Katherine, I’m sorry but I’m afraid the burden of proof is on Dr Wood. She has to make a plausible case. I believe it’s essential that she provide at least some credible evidence/argument that such weapons exists. My “demands” were simply suggestions as to how she might do this. You have seen her presentation, what does she say?
“Katherine, I’m sorry but I’m afraid the burden of proof is on Dr Wood. ”
No, you are wrong.
No “burden of proof” is on Dr. Wood nor on anyone else who points out anomalies of evidence and asks: What does this mean?
The “obligation” that Holland posits to provide an answer to that question is utterly nonsensical.
Holland is saying: You can’t ask the questoin if you don’t know the answer.
Actually, Wood does raise some interesting possibilties at the end of her video.
If you want to argue it, then watch the video first. Don’t argue from an informational vacuum, saying that your demands have not been met!
So, a murder occurs. So, no one can investigate the murder and point out features of the evidence without knowing who the murderer was? No investigation needed if the answer is known! Obviously.
Again, all I can say is: Cart before horse, and not scientific method.
Failure of basic logic, Mr. Holland.
Thanks Katherine, but actually I don’t want to argue it. Let’s just allow each other the right to accept whatever standard of proof we find persuasive. But please, if you don’t mind, the name is Hollander not Holland. That grated particularly on my ears.
First of all I agree that the most important fact about 9/11 that we can all agree upon is that the official version is a lie to cover-up what really happend and who was behind it. We shouldn’t let the details and anomalies get in between us of fight over them.
We should, however, be able to discuss them. And be able to politely agree to disagree on some points. I personally try not to go all-in on one particular theory or the other but review them all and deem some more likely or plausible then others. And concerning the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 IMO Judy Wood’s work shouldn’t be discarded.
I think Judy Wood asks a valid question being the lacking of a debris pile consistent with what should be there after a 1370 feet/415 meter tall tower has come down. Normally you get a debris pile about 12% of the original height of the building. Not with WTC 1 and 2. Building 7 collapsed into a debris pile of normal height.
WTC 1 and 2 did leave 3 to 4 inches of dust all over lower Manhattan. Like Katherine says, Wood’s main message is pointing out the evidence. From which the obvious question arises: what can cause the observed effects during and after the destruction of WTC 1 and 2.
As far as I known there isn’t any easy answer to that question. Wood makes a well argumented case that it could be some kind of a frequency tuned to interact with the matter the tower is composed of (steel/concrete ect.) on a molecular level. Resulting in molecular disassociation of the materials turning them into dust.
She points to the research of John Hutchison which demonstrated that manipulating matter with frequencies is possible.
“ou have seen her presentation, what does she say?”
watch it yourself. I already outlined some of what she said. As have others.
as far as we know DE weapons don’t exist…but the secret space program has alot of interesting stuff that isn’t MSM news.
Your knowledge of physics is, I fear, limited. Two physical principles are at work here – Newton’s Third Law – for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction – meaning in this case that if a small section of the building at the top collapsed, its force would be met with an equal and opposite force from below slowing it and then stopping it – in other words, as the top section crushed those below, it itself would be also crushed, thus reducing its available energy and preventing any further damage to the building. Secondly, the Law of momentum conservation which says that the total energy in an isolated system must always stay the same. In the case of the Twin Tower collapse this means that as the floors collapsed they would lose energy, and without an injection of new energy, they would come to a state of zero energy (and thus, motion) long before the building completely collapsed.
A third issue that no one who suggests such a collapse mentions is that if the floors did collapse pancake-style as the floor supports gave way, what ever happened to the outer steel and glass frame of the building – it disappeared as the floors collapsed. The same is true of the inner huge central supports for the building – what happened to these – they seemingly disappeared also – not bent and mangled, but gone completely – the flooring could not possibly have carried the outer frame and the inner supports with it if they were slipping from its control – such structures would have been left behind as a skeleton.
A fourth issue is that it would have been impossible for the buildings to fall within their own footprint – the top portion of the buildings would have long before toppled over under their own weight.
A fifth issue is how on earth did the building fall at near free-fall speed if the basic laws of physics were engaged? Impossible. Towers I and II fell in 9 and 11 seconds. Think about that.
The only thing that could have brought these building down at near free-fall speed into their own footprints is a controlled demolition – pure and simple – unless, of course, the laws of physics had been shown the door that day.
Watch this short (~12 min) video which contains an excellent explanation of the physics involved in 9/11:
And then of course there is the issue of Building 7 which collapsed again at free-fall speed into its own footprint but was never hit by a plane. Apparently only an office fire brought it down that way.
Really surprised at you, Saker, on this one.
Saker, you are extremely vehement about this. However, how do you prove a negative assertion?
“sorry, they do not exist” is as useful as: The official narrative is true. End of story.”
The gigantic glazy holes in the bedrock under the twin towers created by whatever turned the buildings into dust are a telltale. Mini nukes at foundation level are not such a silly idea at all.
PCR is too polite to point the finger directly at the true perpetrators. Those who benefit most, geo-politically and pathopsychologically from the consequent War of Terror against Islam and the millions of Moslems slaughtered as offerings to their psychotic God.
9/11 has the potential to be the Achilles Heel for the ruling elite. If the truth were to come out, in a way that couldn’t be denied, there would be a violent revolution on the streets, and their power would be threatened. At which point, the mask of democracy that America wears would be shattered forever and the so-called “elite” would undoubtedly give the order for live ammunition to be used on unarmed protesters. Boom – now we’ve got a civil war.
The reality is that the ruling hegemon are losing everywhere, they are even beginning to lose the narrative on their home turf. Look out for another major false flag operation, 9/11 style, involving the use of a nuclear weapon on US soil to be blamed on – who else – Iran.
The ruling elite need another 9/11, a worse one, in order to reassert their dominance and to drag down the entire world into a nuclear apocalypse, just as planned. It’s literally the only thing that can save their pathetic hides from losing power completely and paying for their crimes against humanity.
What will determine now whether we win or lose is whether or not the truth can come out and these evil bastards can be overthrown BEFORE they drag the entire world down into nuclear oblivion.
On this occasion, let us remember Michael C. Ruppert (1951 – 2014), author of “Crossing The Rubicon, The Decline of the American Empire at the End of The Age Of Oil.”
A great man, sorely missed. RIP.
When the twin towers happened I was in the UK
We were watching tennis the US Open she they interrupted the broadcast with the pictures and the news of this event.
My family and I immediately thought it was home grown American terrorists who did it – like Timothy McVeigh “uni- bomber”. New entered our minds that it was “Al Queada” etc etc as they would go on to tell us.
Now all these years later it’s clear the whole thing was a plot to justify the expansion of the US into the middle east and Central Asia.
The greater Israel project was the agenda as that is what they have been working towards
The paid mercenaries- pretending to be Muslims has helped the demonisation of Islam and provided the justification to attack countries in the way of Israel domination of the Middle East.
Readily available Mineta testimony on cheney seated INSIDE the WH issuing stand down orders to USAF should be enough but we are talking rednecks,hillybillys and fools of lumberjack seed.
‘Do the orders still stand, Sir?’ You bet they do! Who’d have thought that a rag-tag bag of Yemeni Houthis would trigger the collapse of the Real Axis of Evil?
I’d like to call atention to Salandria’s corollary, which he arrived after 40 years studing JFK.
The minor details are irrelevant. they are put on place to confound and mislead. The big picture is cristal clear. What happened could only happened with the higher echelons conspiring for it.
The big picture, crystal clear, is what Michael Hoffman would call, ” the revelation of the method” whereby casual observers are made into accomplices.
We can agree that the demo was controlled, engineered, finessed (crazy computing power) — without going into the question of “what mechanism could do that?” In any case, even the mundane nano-thermite which is poo-pooed by some, is super high tech, possibly developed at Sandia or Los Alamos and spied on by Lord Voldemort.
PCR does the world a great service but every now and then the man displays exactly why he served Reeagans govt. This is one such occasion.
The technology he denies is simply resonance at a molecular level and the energy required to induce resonance is far less than the destructive energy that resonance will unleash. Dr Judy Woods has demonstrated the technology. The US has a budget deficit of trillions, as details by Catherine Austin Fitts. PCR’s claims that he knows of no weapon using this tech is frankly underwhelming. The man needs to go learn about Nikolai Tesla, and wonder what it was the Donald Trumps uncle discovered among his papers.
nonsense. there are not DE weapons, why would anybody take this myth so seriously when there is exactly ZERO evidence for that.
I won’t even go to the crapola about mini nukes or Russian missiles.
Frankly, I am thinking of banning more of such myths
if it gets too toxic, I will ban them.
With all due respect, I urge you, Saker, actually to watch Dr. Judy Wood’s presentation. Invest 2. 5 hours.
Then return and give the site and provide the rest of us with the answers that refute her points once and for all.
I am not an expert, but I also do not consider myself to be a gullible fool!
However, I have no ego invested in this. I am genuinely curious.
Just as with the 2003 Iraq invasion, when I was sure on the morning of March 19 or whatever the exact date was, that the USA had crossed a rubicon of some kind, I hoped I was wrong!
So, sure, I hope I am wrong in finding Dr. Wood’s presentation and points persuasive.
But please, prove it to me!!!
I would also encourage you to to watch Dr. Wood’s presentation, or better yet maybe peruse her Where did the Towers Go?. If nothing else, it is an artifact that bolsters myth — though myth itself seems to underrated. Are there too many layers of the onion to unpeel?
Nuclear tech and directed energy weapon tech is quite a bit further along than is admitted to. But, this was certainly a controlled demo. Literally impossible to drop those towers the way they fell on accident. Even if they had done it on an actual movie set, it would still have had to be a planned demo.
As for the ritual mass murder they preformed, their ‘lie, lie, lie, lie,… silence’ fits the behavioral pattern of secret society sickos to the letter, in my humble opinion.
There are a few, several more strange facts.
Nonetheless, the the author’s listing is already demolishing.
I myself took the time to list and write down one by one, a number of those facts on 9/11 which were contrary and opposite to expectations…
It was titled: ”The day where it should have been but hasn’t – it should have worked but hasn’t”.
All on a summarized form of course.
It took three pages. [and there are people a lot better informed than I was]
Just to remember everyone that extensive preparations with muslim patsies were perfectly possible – and any israeli filming crews on top of buildings also explainable – one should recall that many many of the state of Israel ‘s secret service agents speak and master the arabic language.
In 1999, I read online and still available, Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaikin’s “The Unauthorize Biography of George Bush”. It outlines the major ties between the US deep state and the Nazis. Specifically, Prescott Bush financing the Nazis, the Dulles brothers collaborating with them, and the Elder Bush’s ties to JFK’s death.
The Nazi’s weaseled their way into power on the basis of a minority vote in the election. Shortly after, the main building in Germany, the Reichstag has a major fire, which Hitler used to justify his police state, and demonize the Communists. The big enemy of Western capitalism du jour.
So, when I first heard about planes flying into buildings, my first thought was Reichstag. Bush’s stolen election in 2000 followed by an attack that justifies a crackdown on civil liberties at home and expansionists wars abroad. Is it any wonder we are see the return of fascist narratives. I am only surprised that it has taken so long. The Nazi regime took power and was gone in 13 years.
With the USA, they’re still just getting started.
PS. Also Mike Ruppert, mentioned in another comment, deserves much credit for pulling all the strands together. A great mentor.
see (about the JFK affair) https://wikispooks.com/w/images/f/f6/Final_Judgment.pdf
over 700 pages…
Corbett did a summary, sorta, of the FF911> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q
Have you ever noticed how many representations of fasces, the bundle or rods that represented the State power of Rome, and became a symbol for fascism, that there are in the US Capitol? As they often say, the USA is NOT a ‘democracy’, but a ‘republic’.
You can confidently say what you want, but the fact is that the towers turned to dust and the cars in the area had melted engines & door handles while paper debris was unaffected. Neither planes nor Thermite explains any of that. I am a structural engineer with 30 years experience in Finite Element Analysis.
… until men in black come knocking on our doors, then we will all be singing the thermite song over and over.
This subject is still too political and will be for many years to come. The Saker’s stance is thus correct. We are pushing the illusion of free speech and democratic freedom too far here and have let PCR know this also.
PCR had a very high voltage incident ‘accident’ at his home, caused externally by a newbie machine operator working near power-lines …
I always say to people who question this pivotal false flag, “How did 2 planes bring down 3 buildings”. It stalls them in their tracks. Simple maths. Their conscience is struck.
Despite the extensive discussion of how the towers were demolished it’s strange that we are still talking about Saudi nationals being involved in the creation of the backup story. As pointed out above that half of the alleged hijackers have been found alive and well and deny that they had ever left their countries should lead to the obvious conclusion that the identified individuals who enrolled in the flight training and partied as reported were using false identities. There is no reason to believe they were Saudis or other Arab nationals at all. They could have as easily been Israelis.
A very large portion of the central core of the towers would still be standing if this was ‘top down’ destruction. An asymmetrical hit on the upper floors simply could not cause what was seen on that day. The bottom of the central core had to be compromised to allow for the falling in its own footprint style collapse. Then there is Building 7.
While it is interesting to speculate, the events of that day no longer matter. Even if absolute proof that Israel the MIC and whoever else was involved came out, F’ all would happen to change the reality we live in today. TPTB won’t be overthrown or even slightly restrained by a bunch of ignorant rectangular glass pecking morons or patriots with tacti-cool black guns. The only way the world will change is the way the Roman empire fell, slow rot until the final quick collapse of the society and a long slow rebuild from the ashes.
Just my $0.02
”The ’Dancing Israelis’ who turned out to be Israeli Mossad agents caught filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers.”
For once, the joy of Zionazi agents was shared by an overwhelming global majority. People oppressed by Western imperialism have little sympathy for those who work in the very hubs of Zionazi power. ’Innocent’, my foot.
The main thing about 911 is that it was a crucial test event. Just like Europe’s evil, rotten regimes of colonial genocidalists and intermarried royal swine and scum in 1914 the Zionazis, before embarking on all-out violence. and lawlessness, wanted to see for themselves that their domestic subjects were not harbouring any ’unpatriotic’ sentiments. They were not. Had the majority population in the US (and elsewhere in the West) reacted by massive Schadenfreude and raw contempt the Terror Wars would have been stopped in their tracks.
What did the analysis of the structural steel from all three buildings show?
Nothing, since the 350,000 tons of steel was shipped to China for destruction as quickly as possible. 50,000 tons has already arrived in China by December 2001. Meanwhile, (most of the) aluminum from airplanes which crash in war zones is collected and assembled in a warehouse for examination.
The most glaring thing that most ‘americans’, 65%, don’t know is that “three” buildings collapsed on 9/11. How in the name of God would one ever convince them that something other than what the government says happened that day. Good luck with that, they don’t know the difference between Austria and Austrailia, to quote a famous president.
Lot’s to say, on this subject:
Quite Frankly, I see nothing but pretty good, decent comments here. Some really excellent….but they are all….just a little “safe” for my taste. Reality is of course objective. But there is also a subjective side to it, often too much overlooked, IMHO.
So I’ll try to take a greater risk, a risk I can at least see, while admitting there could be other risks, packed with even greater potential rewards………..which I just can’t see yet….and knowing full well, despite the firing of John Bolton yesterday…..that I may STILL be risking the vehement objections and displeasure…of nearly everyone reading these comments…who I anticipate will not see, will deny, because they would HATE to see even the possibility …of what I will lay out here.
Which formulates itself in my mind because of the firing of Bolton………but also some other things Donald Trump said, live on Channel 9 TV in New York City…..eighteen years and one day ago.
I had not seen that footage, Quite Frankly ……….until Frank included it right here, before his intermission break…in last night’s live show:
That’s a good excerpt…but the whole thing is also available: https://youtu.be/tI1yXW1hut4
The exceptions among some few people that can even consider….for about the next 14 months, minimally…not 14 seconds…what I am thinking…….however, if they have the guts to risk it,may very well be decisive in turning history in….a more promising direction globally…..not just here.
Now, the calculation of the Perpetrators of Sept 11, 2001…..as with all of their false flags of lesser drama and their plethora more slowly grinding crimes against humanity everywhere…. is that they have divided humanity sufficiently against itself, to do just as they please..with the rest of us……..mostly 100%.unscathed.
For many generations they have perfected their tactics and strategies of cultural warfare and mind control, and corruption, including deadly fear-based discipline enforced within their own ranks.
They have shrunken most the identities of most individuals in this world to the approximate size of a grain of salt..easily dissolvable into a barely perceptible thin film.. which time will rinse away into no lasting positive contribution to history…..whatsoever! And so, they count on a great majority of Americans (as well as most persons anywhere else, they hope…) to defensively disassociate their tiny, shrunken identities from any and all of this manifest evil.
Accordingly, even if they NEVER for even one second believed the 911 BS…most will still deny any personal connection to emboldening evilby long years of continuous sins of omission…ever since their 100% toleration of the absurd Warren Commission…to the escalation of…the even more preposterous “in your face, suckers!” pack of lies that they were set up to stupidly swallow September 11, 2001.
Could very many even critically examine how they had been living their lives..for decades….if they had been adults that long? OR…… just naturally and defensively shirk any and all responsibility for their own role in tolerating psychopathy to rule them and control their minds….for nearly if not all of their adult lives…and so just withdraw even further into their leaderless impotent littleness??
Undoubtedly, the psychopaths made a “reasonably accurate” calculation!
The Ego has a role in the survival of every individual…..it can only stand so much of a beating all at once…..and nearly 100% of the time the Ego will say:
“I have to live! This is way,way, WAY bigger than me…what can I DO?? Nothing!!”
And in the short-term they are correct! No immediate remedy was available …..except to steel oneself to resist, longer term, for the remainder of their lives….
So there’s the rub! Some family members simply could not resist THEN….stuck their index fingers in both ears and grew two extra hands to cover their eyes with, metaphorically. Only one other, besides myself, among my immediate family (my Red-Pilled Oldest Sister) resisted from the start, that same September, 2001.
Now Frank of Quite Frankly was only in Jr high in 2001 but I was 51…and was privileged (not disadvantaged…..into depression or something,as fools would imagine….I wouldn’t have it ANY other way…) to be quite certain what it was all about ……..before the second tower was affected.
Even yesterday, Frank says in the linked anniversary live show above: “I got nuthin! Just 40,000 subscribers…what can I do?”
Actually, with a few forgivable mistakes (like Andrew Jackson…but that’s a tough one for lots of folks!) Frank is doin’ real good, IMHO.
Because…. Frank’s wake-up started then…..at age 13…..a 16 year head start on my 29 yr old “starting to get a clue” age @ 1979. Not bad, Grasshopper!
Everyone will have a different of experience of awakening …or determined refusal …to EVER snap out of their deep, deep denial “walking dead” zombie slumber. IF ALL of their adulthood is pretty awakened….they are a rare, rare animal. There were almost ZERO such people in 2001, compared to today.
And now (or 2017..2018 somewhat confused..by the trump/Clinton election and Russiagate kerfuffle… finally…a couple of others….a sister and a cousin slowly awaken …and even (Miracle of Miracles!) begin to feel some….. at least small infant awakening moral stake …weakly at first….gradually nudging aside the previous (more than decade long!!) morally senile denial of ALL difficult reality but their comfortably cowardly and cozy “private life”. Many settle eagerly, fearfully for so damned little their infinitesimally small and pathetic version of a life that has no chance of having any lasting positive impact on generations hence.
Part of the job now is to make more of those Little Deniers of All Responsibility for Any History ….except their family album…something only a handful of people will ever give a damn about…….increasingly aware of………….and uncomfortable with……… their mostly passive facilitation of evil.
Because it is a fact as plain as the nose on their faces….that their meek passivity and stubbornly immoral denial….is exactly the moral garbage environment…that emboldens Evil and permits it to thrive as much as it regrettably did post Sept11, 2001….in the stupified displays of moronic “patriotism” supporting foreign invasions and regime change.
But Frank and his listeners and guest “get” most of it, and some in new detail I appreciate learning from them!
The rest of the job, for about 5 more years is to get a lot of others to subdue their Holier than Thou complaining and posturing against that Manhattan Real Estate Developer that spoke out publically on Channel 9 September 11, 2001…and then…… correctly decided to tone it down a little bit on that specific topic until he could maneuver into arraying some adequate measures of protection….and POWER…..for his future capacity….to tell the entire world ALL he knows about the events of September 11, 2001…without either losing office…or his life.
OR, of course you could, instead completely ignore that interview of 18 years ago….write off ANY possibility the guy ran in 2016 to do something about what he knew that very day, AND support the coming Expose the Orange Idiot in the White House book launching and tour of John Bolton…timed for late summer, early fall, 2020.
Oh yeah! That’d sure show those Luciferians behind the 9/11/2001 Mass Hypnosis Brainwashing Stunt!
I’m not sayin’ it’s guaranteed DJT won’t disappoint, cave…or fail. What I am saying is Frank at least correctly perceives that Frank and Friends’ best shot is (and maybe EVEN your best shot…WOW….could that even be possible …like a better than Million to One shot??? LOL) for DJT to be empowered to be much, much less subdued on the 9/11/2001 matter….going forward after November 2020.as he was not so subdued that day…Sept 11, 2001….just study the video evidence….
And , I’m sayin’ that neocon traitor warmonger admitted liar, and cheater Pompeo needs to be the next to go…not The Donald……and that 40,000 Quite Frankly subscribers and building…is what not so little but actually quite important Frank CAN proactively DO….other than complain about how uphill it all is, how long it’s taking, how brainwashed people are….and he’s not taking on Israel FIRST…but sayin’…that’s last.
On the not so outside chance (IMHO) that Republic….NOT Empire is what Trump is after and the Flynn, Admiral Rogers and the other keys to this presidency are also after the same…and that Bannon’s headbutting with China obsession will ultimately be dispatched with Bolton’s war mongering mustache…supporting one more term is clearly the best option available in the parched desert Wasteland of American Politics.
On the other hand, if nothing post November 2020 is ever done by a re-elected President Donald J Trump….concerning official denunciation of the Bush 9/11 Commission Report …well, in that case…and no earlier……. I will readily admit that Trump, his opponents…and in fact this whole country are not worth a shit…,.and in fact…are collectively morally unfit to survive.
Of course, Like Lot, there are always a few rare exceptions…..but unless recent improvements are built upon….most may yet amount .in history…….to nothing but a salty residue….bitterly resented by future generations they can still miserably fail…….unless they are made too uncomfortable to continue that sad trajectory…and get seriously cracking, quite frankly.
Bro … I am coming to strongly suspect you own shares in scroll wheels in the computer mouse industry ;-)
I strongly second your suspicions.
Actually, P & P, I don’t own a single public share in ANY public company of of any type.
Furthermore, I almost never touch the scroll wheel, for some reason, preferring instead to use the little rectangle on the right side of the “window” to move text up and down.
That’s all the “wheel” is good for, correct??
Or am I missing something?
I know I could be doing stuff on the computer much better than I currently know how to!
(Psst. Hold down Right Click and use the Scroll button to control volume.
:-) The Mod.)
And here’s a a video where Trump denies everything and tows the official line (only 2 days later):
Flip-flopping seems to be his modus operandi. He truly is unpredictable.
He was no doubt told by friends, advisors that if he wanted to live….he’d better do that….at least that week…..and thereafter watch his tongue until things could be made considerably more ready to safely speak the Truth of 9/11/2001.
Are things ready yet??
I think we’re a lot closer!
But the more subjective question is: What would YOU have done, Anonymous?
THEN you can think about whether you would have, could have….. offered ANY better advice than to recognize the danger of going beyond Channel 9 kind of off the cuff….taking your time, and trying to assemble, piece by piece in private first the correlation of influential forces required to effectively take on this enormous problem, enormous corruption and treason to the human species.
This is what I mean by the subjective factor of individual will…or is it all outside of yourself, something you can feel smugly superior to…..with no stake in it, no involvement, no responsibility??? That’s the vibe I get. No offense, just fact!
Which is why I wrote the comment that I wrote.
What do YOU see, in the mirror??
And the vibe I get from those unable to risk any optimism AT all regarding permanent war forever between USA and Russia…………is that they are 100% OUT OF any optimism or action they could ever conceive of………..and have only fatalism and 100% pessimism left: Casualties of War on the Spirit……Corruption of the Soul.
Which, of course, could NEVER get anything of very much good done….EVER!
Like embarking on a road trip with 4 flat tires.
My 2 cents worth is the timing of it. 2001? Really? That’s awfully close to the turn of the millennium. Those responsible what were they thinking with the approaching turn of the millennium. The motive correct. Police investigators always start with the motive! What was the motive really behind something so complex that the planning was well in advance of the coming new millennium and look what a way to start a new millennium of mankind, a war? A friggin war? Are you kidding me? The first year of a new millennium and we have people planning such human suffering? For what purpose? Hate? Wow, you have got to have a serious hatred on to pull off something as complex and frightening as this was yes? It often leaves me with the thought nope there was something far worse in the works but why and why is the real questions that needs asking? Bollyn keep digging!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is one group that has taken hatred and belligerence to stratospheric levels, and they, of course, are the Zionazis. Take Talmudic Judaic hatred of the goyim, add millennia of oppression and suffering, both imposed on them and imposed by them on others, add the hatred of the indigenous people who must be exterminated or driven away, that all Western colonialists share, and finally add the fear and hatred of the goyim that understandably grew from the Nazi Judeocide, and you get Zionazi hate. Hate so deep and virulent that more than a few Zionazis over the years have threatened to ‘…take the world down with us.’, if they feel sufficiently ‘threatened’ in the future. Say by losing a war with Iran and Hezbollah, or even suffering the sort of harm that they routinely inflict on Gaza without hesitation or mercy.
There is one group that has taken hatred and belligerence to stratospheric levels
Yes, but just learning about the bathtub alone shows the enormous amount of premeditation and planning that went into the demolition. Those responsible made sure that the damage was limited to just the towers alone which is simply incredible. I wouldn’t be at all surprised that they were themselves astounded by it all?
In any case Ariel Sharon, former Israeli prime minister:
“Even if you’ll prove to me by mathematical means that the present war in Lebanon is a dirty immoral war, I don’t care. Moreover, even if you will prove to me that we have not achieved and will not achieve any of our aims in Lebanon, that we will neither create a friendly regime in Lebanon nor destroy the Syrians or even the PLO, even then I don’t care. It was still worth it. Even if Galilee is shelled again by Katyushas in a year’s time, I don’t really care. We shall start another war, kill and destroy more and more, until they will have had enough.
Tell me, do the baddies of this world have a bad time? If anyone tries to touch them, the evil men cut his hands and legs off. They hunt and catch whatever they feel like eating. They don’t suffer from indigestion and are not punished by Heaven. I want Israel to join that club. Maybe the world will then at last begin to fear me instead of feeling sorry for me. Maybe they will start to tremble, to fear my madness instead of admiring my nobility. Thank god for that. Let them tremble, let them call us a mad state. Let them understand that we are a wild country, dangerous to our surroundings, not normal, that we might go crazy if one of our children is murdered—just one! That we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the Middle East! I… Let them be aware in Washington, Moscow, Damascus and China that if one of our ambassadors is shot, or even a consul or the most junior embassy official, we might start World War Three just like that!
If your nice civilized parents had come here in time instead of writing books about the love for humanity and singing Hear O Israel on the way to the gas chambers… now don’t be shocked, if they instead had killed six million Arabs here or even one million, what would have happened? Sure, two or three nasty pages would have been written in the history books, we would have been called all sorts of names, but we could be here today as a people of 25 million!
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal… What you lot don’t understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.”
Further where the Pentagon is concerned, you have a target like that and you fly a plane at ground level into one small section of the outer ring? I would think landing a plane through the roof would have displayed ones hatred for a country and a people far more. They could have taken out the entire building rendering it totally and completely useless for years.
Sounds like Sharon, but do you have a source for this lurid expression of the essence of Zionazism?
and I might add in the news today what do we hear about but the possible bugging of the white house which reminds me of something I heard back in 2001 about indictments being prepared by some office connected to the military out of one of the twin towers and the Pentagon of all places? Really? Electronic surveillance is a work of huge importance by many powers that be and I could well imagine what is being heard and learned is not making some very happy? What a dangerous world earth has truly become. Can you imagine one cannot live their lives anymore without being possibly bugged and watched 24/7? Imagine if a Stalin had such capabilities. In the past one needed confidants who could be really trusted. Today no one needs anyone just an electronic listening device to prove ones loyalty or worse?
“For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.” Luke 8:17
With respect, dear Saker, I cannot accept the statement by yourself and PCR that the possibility of a nuclear aspect to this demolition is ‘nonsense’. What can explain that mighty fountain of dust upthrusting through the top of the tower? That is not seen in common controlled-demolition methods.
I first encountered an explanation back about 2005 which came from a military analyst located in Finland. His article, illustrated with numerous photos of weapons being tested, explained what a shaped charge was, and that this could also be nuclear. I know that you have an intelligence background and connections, dear Saker, but are you a military explosives expert too?
It seems to me that such expertise could contribute to the case against the high-level individuals who were responsible for the stand-down and cover-up that followed the ‘new pearl harbor’ event.
To backtrack further, to the day itself in September 2001, for some reason I was immune to the psy-op.
Although I watched the towers fall in real time, I had turned off the sound and watched the endless replays with narrowed eyes. “Something is wrong with this picture” was the primary impression, and also already I felt strongly that this was a controlled demolition.
So over the years I have followed the topic. I never ruled out commentary and analysis by those with military training as I figure they have applicable insider knowledge.
To omit this military insider viewpoint is like trying to understand what the aircraft were capable of, or not capable of, without looking at the work by Pilots for 911 Truth. They, and their colleagues in air-traffic control, are the only ones with the expertise to analyse the raw code of the flight logs, and they did so. (Look it up if you can — I hope those articles are still online.)
In the decade preceding the “9/11” event, I had seen numerous science programs about how engineers have to plan carefully and place explosives and their timing exactly to ensure removal of supports, so that the building falls into its own footprint. Curiously, no such programs appeared on TV after the Big Event. Apparently the big networks were aware that more people might notice the similarity. So, possibly to maintain the propaganda objective (endless ‘war on terror’) they had to deep-six any program about controlled demolition without calling attention to the fact they were omitting it.
But the strongest evidence which I’ve seen is from Veterans Today, supplied by people with military explosives training and who did actually work with such weapons in their careers. The nano-nuke charge was placed where it interacted with freon in the refrigeration system which greatly boosted the power. That made sense for explaining the disappearance of the top section of the tower that appeared about to fall sideways — but then in a second it kind of just evaporated instead. That phenomenon is visible in the videos.
Have any of those who talk about nano-thermite presented an analysis of that ‘dustification’ in which gravity was defied and a whole chunk of architecture didn’t fall sideways? I haven’t seen any articles addressing that, but if anyone else has an explanation please post it here (title, author, etc.).
I had discovered the Saker site only recently and found it provided some unique insights into mid-East and particularly Russian issues. However, it does not have the military-insider knowledge that is a source of details about new miniaturized explosives.
So, go ahead and ban me if that is what you want to do. But I don’t want to claim that military-intelligence background is more valuable than political-intelligence background, or vice versa. We need all aspects of searching for facts if such massive ‘crimes against humanity’ are to be properly prosecuted and further ones prevented. I hope all these independent analysts will bring into the light what “mainstream” wants to keep in the dark.
So, my view coincides with that of “Peter from Oz” who gave three reasons for a redundancy of methods.
To that I would add a cultural sidelight: Gandalf pointing out to the little band of stalwart ring-bearer and companions that “the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward if we quarrel.”
We have to just put on the table the absolute fact that bringing down the three towers was a demolition and let all the details sit there (even if they don’t seem compatible) until we can get the perps into court, and find and protect honest judges to ensure that all the facts will finally come out.
We can surely admit that we don’t yet have a proven case from a legal standpoint, but the evidence for demolition with possible redundancy of methods points to INSIDER planning and execution.
That, and its foreign-policy consequences were only possible with complicity of media owners who still take no responsibility for lying about Iraq WMDs, not to mention all the other wars they have marketed by relentless repetition, and blacklisting of dissenting views.
Here in Italy there are some tough investigative journalists that have made a very good job in revealing the 9/11 hoax. Here a very interesting link in English, simply and straight. Share it as much as you can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lH0V0J5iDI
Thank you….very interesting indeed.Alot of absurdities clearly pointed out.
… agreed and to add, American Airlines released a statement well after 911, which has gone missing.
Simply stated … on 911 none of our airplanes bearing the stated flight numbers flew on 911.
Presstitute Sputnik News is out hooking again …
“The name in question comes from a FBI list of three Saudi nationals accused of facilitating the plane attacks. Two names from the list were previously released, but one remained redacted.”
As Paul Craig Roberts has previously very bluntly stated:
“The theory as if 19 Arab youngsters could commit terrorist crime of such magnitude armed only with box cutters, is simply ridiculous”.
It is truly one of the biggest and most ridiculous lies in modern history, showing how easily people are manipulated.
Arabs using box cutters hijacking planes after taking off from their airports and perfectly piloting and navigating them to two targets, one of them flying over Washington DC with ease and parking itself inside the Headquarters of the most powerful military on Earth. While the other target was perfectly hit by two planes, seamlessly melting into buildings causing a third unaffected building to drop like a stack of pancakes on its own foot print…..
……you seriously cannot make this sht up. And the stupid gullible people keep making excuses, repeating the lies and just cannot accept the fact that their government is willing to kill them.
… the following song is about getting ridiculous … it’s American (cough)
Bro … note the cop wearing the Q necklace …
Redfoo – Let’s Get Ridiculous (Official Video)
Getting ridiculous has been well and truly achieved in the USA !
Two biggest lies and deceptions in human history were Moon Landing and September Eleven.
Further to this connection to the millennium was that rental truck bombing in 1998. We have a period of five years 1997 to 2001 where a tremendous amount of preparation was in the works. A new millennium is approaching and what, murderers are at work planning an atrocity that would resound around the world? And what about that bombing of the Murray building in Oklahoma 1995 five years before the turn of the millennium?
It just gets weirder and weirder?
Wow, if the truth about all of this were actually to get out what would it do?
It wouldn’t do anything. People are apathetic, are too busy with either surviving or too afraid to talk. If there is no leadership willing to lead the righteous, you can forget about any outrage or consequences related to 9-11. Besides, the US is heading towards a police state with an ever shrinking middle class. An elite using the police state to rule over a poor population, if there lucky.
Precisely — well put.
Also, especially true of the US, is that the West’s majority populations are instinctively deeply hostile to facts and logic. On this basis, 911 truthers, however sincere and restrained, run the risk of eliciting an uncompromising, extremely amplified fascist response from Western society as a whole.
A fairly comparable case here in Sweden is the murder of Olof Palme 33 years ago. It was absolutely clear from the very start that he was killed by the worst Nazi scum (both in the singular and plural tense) within Stockholm’s police force, but the vast majority wouldn’t and won’t have any of it here. The MSM Party Line remains their Holy Gospel: Palme was assassinated by pure accident; the killer a down and out drug addict with walking disability.
Check out this raw video footage of the first tower collapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPVNLLo-mI .
Note the “explosion” causing the collapse erupted from the building far below from where the airplane impacted.
Also, note the symetric nature of the blast. If one takes out only one floor of a building of this structure type, the building floors above the floor that was taken out would crash down upon the floors below thus causing the remainder of the building to crumple down symetrically as it did. As an engineer, it appears to me some detonation independant of the airplane crashing into it caused the tower to fall. In all likelihood the same happened with the second building.
It should be obvious to any sane or even idiot person (with all due respect to idiots) that the twin towers including building 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. There should be no doubt whatsoever about this all too obvious particular point. Just discussing this point is a waste of time.
However, what is even more fascinating and mind boggling are the so called “airplanes” used in this false flag attack. Here is an absolute must see website loaded with material on this particular topic related to 9-11:
Some points discussed / described on this website:
– Impossible airplane physics and speed, mentioned by previous pilots who have flown the actual airplanes “presumably used” in the attack.
– No airplane debris whatsoever found at the Pentagon, twin towers or Pennsylvania.
– Impossible physical interaction between presumable airplanes and building structure.
The list goes on and on…..
If no actual commercial airline jets were used, then the question is: what was used to project the illusion of airline jets ? Missiles, drones, 3D projection technology, CGI, Jinn, etc. ?
It wouldn’t do anything. People are apathetic
Maybe, but through the process of elimination more and more questions are being added all the time. The truth may not come in our lifetime but I’m sure diaries are being kept etc etc etc. What do they say it is hard to keep a lie going? How many hundreds of people were involved really?
In any case for me I’m beginning to think that this was in response to Saddam Hussein oil war against Kuwait. note date 1990? From the day I learned about peak oil and started down the road of investigating it the questions it brings up in the mind is telling. Some argue the world is awash in oil and plenty of reserves but I fear all is not well in the oil patch and no where in the world would things come to a climax than in the Middle East. Israel especially would have a great deal to lose if its access to oil was severely restricted or crippled. I’m no analyst military or otherwise but if the Middle East is the last place where oil can be found that presents for a great many world powers a dilemma that needs addressing. For those well versed in geo political games I would love to hear their thoughts!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, watching those oil wells get blown up the destruction and waste surely must have caused some serious worry in the halls of power.
Beyond this I suppose James 4 gives us all we need to know really:
What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
Laughingly, the Yew are going to need a savior and wow what a wake up call that is going to be when it doesn’t pan out the way they wish. Just more idolatry but this time an idolatry that has never been seen or existed at any time in mankind’s entire history. This by the way is what the Christian Zionists should be warning and teaching about evangelizing as they go saving the Jews some of them anyway to Christ Jesus as St. Paul desired!!!!!!!
But no? Idiots!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely respect The Sakers’ work, and generally Paul Craig Roberts’ as well. However, mistakes can happen. “…nonsensical claims that the WTC buildings were brought down by a directed energy weapon and by nuclear bombs.”?
https://youtu.be/ermHx3akejc – Dr. Judy Wood: Where did the towers go?
It’s shocking that critical thinking has devolved to the extent that few seem capable of recognizing the importance of incontrovertible evidence such as TV station video Dr. Wood’s discovered of steel I-Beams dissolving into dust in seconds as they fell and the amazing rubble piles of WTC towers 1 & 2 where 110 stories of steel construction fall to essentially ground level heaps. Also, “The Spire” left after the collapse of WTC1, the North Tower, that crumbled into dust as recorded by multiple video cameras. Among other things.
Then there were the explosions in the basements of the Twin Towers before “the planes struck,” the hollowing out of WTC6 by some massive force, and the anomalous damage to the bedrock in “The Bathtub,” as well as alpha (plutonium fission) radiation detected at Ground Zero. If you want the truth, you have to take it whole.
… you are doing well …
Dmitry Khalezov provides closure.
Dr. Judy Wood: Where did the towers go?
Bruce, if you really want to know where the towers went, just ask Mayor Giuliani. His crime was to tamper with evidence by quickly collecting the rubble and sending it on a fast boat to China.
Re “”Bruce if you *really* . . . ”
I think most people who have followed the 9/11 discussion/controversy/alternative theories, etc are well aware of this fact. Of course Giuliani’s action constitutes destruction/elemination of evidence. Of course, if one *really* wants to make an effort to understand what occurred on 911 *and immediately afterward*, one must ask whether Giuliani was actually the source of this decision, whether G or someone else had made prior arrangements for the transport *and disposal* of large amounts of contaminated rubble, etc. These types of arrangements normally cannot be made at the drop of a hat. Or of two enormous sky scrapers. On this matter see Chris Bollyn.
Of course, the actual question is still one of volume.
says this (in terms of mass/weight, not volume):
” A single tower consists of 90,000,000 kg (100,000 tons) of steel, 160,000 cubic meters (212,500 cubic yards) of concrete and 21,800 windows. One single tower has a mass of about 450,000,000 kilograms (500,000 tons).”
Add to that WTC7 and WTC 6. Among others.
How does this compare to the volume of debris ferried to Staten Island and thence to China? How many ships would it take to transport the material of the exploded/demolished towers to China? Surely the logistical problem of what to do with the resulting evidence of the crime must have been a major problem for the perpetrators to solve in advance.
Some videos I saw of workmen “combing through debris” on a conveyor belt at Staten Island looking for various items only showed smallish black lumps.
Those who are “really” interested in the many questions raised by 911 can easily check out Dr. Judy Woods’s and Chris Bollyn’s presentations and writings, among many other sources, and see what they think. I am still interested to hear solid counterarguments from those who are interested enough in challenging themselves and others to take the time to watch the Woods and Bollyn presentations.
In addition to my comment below. I worked at 140 Broadway NY on 9/11. And own a condo on Rector Place in NY. I was leaving my office to go to Tug boats in Battery Park for evacuation when second building collapsed. Ponder below.
When the towers fell, imagine a bicycle pump 115 stories tall as the pump is compressed, the air pressure at street level toppled cars and trucks, blew out windows on adjacent buildings. My hearing was impaired for three days afterwards. The debris was 6 inches thick on the Battery Park esplanade.
I finally returned to my place, six weeks later, none of the doors, all steel and steel framed (not wood) would not properly open and close. I had those repaired eventually, did that building suffer from some structural ‘misalignment’ ? Also ALL my windows were closed on 9/11, but alas I did find pieces of paper inside my condo, from the WTC – air pressure ?
After the first rains all the puddles in lower Manhattan had a strong iridescent glow along with smell of burnt electricity and asbestos – for more than 4 months.
Canada has seized and sold some $30 million worth of Iranian assets, court documents indicate. The funds were transferred to American families seeking compensation over terrorist acts that were all pinned on Tehran.
The confiscated assets include two buildings – the Iranian Cultural Center in Ottawa and Center for Iranian Studies in Toronto – as well as some $2.6 million seized from Iranian bank accounts and a couple of vehicles.
The two properties have been sold for $26.5 and $1.85 million respectively, while the proceeding were transferred to several families in the US, who sought share of the assets as a compensation for various acts of terrorism they blamed on Iran. Court documents confirming that the funds have been distributed are dated August 7, yet only caught eye of local media on Friday.
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Canada seizes & sells $30mn worth of Iranian assets to ‘compensate US victims’ of terrorism
Published time: 13 Sep, 2019 23:50 Edited time: 14 Sep, 2019 00:03
Canada’s reward for years of lackey service to the Real Evil Empire will be an Anschluss in a few years when Thanatopia requires its resources, particularly the water. I reckon the Ukronazi Freedland will be imposed as the Quisling Boss.
” Moreover, a directed energy burst would show on detectors which monitor the electromagnetic spectrum. ”
Speaking of meters of various kinds, Dr. Judy Wood cites and shows readings of vibration/seismic meters. Their tracing needles showed no seismic effects in the graphs of the gigantic buildings supposedly crashing to the ground.
More damning evidence on 9/11.
BBC report by Jane Stanley that WTC 7 fell when it was clearly still standing in background of the live video broadcast.
Larry Silverman (WTC owner) telling FDNY ‘to pull’ WTC 7 on recorded radio channels.
Firefighters and Dylan Avery’s film crew witness and capture to countless explosions just prior to buildings collapsing.
My personal experience …
I worked at 140 Broadway 51st Floor in NY on 9/11/2001, and witness to, while talking to a client on the phone, the aircraft that hit the south tower. I am very confident it did not have United Airlines colors painted on it. I followed the news post 9/11 and I was expecting confirmation when a jet turbine was later discovered in a Soho loft, but alas the serial number and originating aircraft ID was never reported. There is a photograph of the turbine in Chris Bollyan book ‘Solving 9-11’.
The tower and the fuel
One tower is 1.65 million cubic meters
According to the FEMA report, the amount of fuel in the Boeing 767 was about 10,000 gallons, which is 37.8 cubic meters
This is a cube of 3.4 meters side (about 11 feet). One small room.
so, ratio of tower volume to fuel volume: 43650
You could also visualize the tower as a half-gallon (~2L) carton of milk
then the comparative volume of the fuel would be
0.5 / 43650 = 0.00001145475 gallon = 43.4 cubic millimeters
which would be a very tiny cube of 3.5 mm side (1/14 of an inch)
Yaakov Shwekey – WE ARE A MIRACLE
I want to hear an explanation for pictures showing aluminum door handles and cast iron engine blocks burned out but not interior upholstery on vehicles 5 blocks away.
This is a very long report, audio of 2+ hours) by corbett about the 911 whistleblowers, many who paid a personal price of losing their jobs and careers. Corbett has done a lot of work on this national tragedy and coverup.
Recommended! (Transcripts are available).
Bet not many know that the guy who couldn’t solo a Cessna I72 with 600 logged hours could fly a hologram right though a massive steel girder building. https://archive.org/details/youtube-ek-Q0T9wK2g