By Rostislav Ishchenko
Translated by Ollie Richardson and Angelina Siard
For five years in a row the International Commissions of Inquiry created in Holland has been engaged in investigating the downing of flight MH17 over the skies of Ukraine in 2014.
Every summer, on the eve of the anniversary of the tragedy, the commission lazily reports that it very strongly suspects the Donbass militiamen of (with the assistance of Russia) downing the Malaysian “Boeing”. By 2016 it was clear that even if the US would down all “Boeings” in the world and will blame Russia for it, the position of Moscow would not be shaken.
In fact, it is for this reason that a part of the American elite reoriented itself from the globalist agenda of Obama-Clinton to the nationalist agenda of Trump, having propelled the latter towards the presidency. Therefore the Dutch tried not to fuss strongly, reluctantly trudging through the “investigation” without any spark.
They obviously played for time so that it was possible to quietly bury the American provocation – “time has moved on”. Or to transfer the investigation to Malaysia, which has long been indignant with the fact that although its plane was shot down, Malaysian investigators are not allowed in the commission.
And suddenly this year the Dutch “international” investigation defined specific suspects — four people, citizens of Russia and Ukraine, who allegedly transported the Russian Buk that was used to down the plane to the DPR. They immediately started talking about preparations for trialling the “culprits”, although suspicion isn’t proof, and it is possible to suspect anyone, but the court needs facts.
Nevertheless, it is obvious that having said “A”, the commission will also say “B”, having demanded the interrogation of the suspects.
Moreover, the list of these “suspects” can be randomly expanded, up to the country’s top brass. After all, in order to transfer the Buk across the border, a whole interdepartmental operation is necessary. It is possible to take it only from a military unit. And before this – the Ministry of Defence. It has to move to the border along roads and through settlements. This means the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which such a movement has to be coordinated with.
And lastly, protecting the border is a prerogative of the FSB. It is clear that any officer of any of the listed departments will not take part in such an operation without the approval of the highest administration.
Well, and the heads themselves will not involve themselves in such complex and dangerous work without having coordinated it first with the Supreme Commander – the president.
Thus, by accusing seemingly insignificant characters, the commission actually accuses Russia as a state of international terrorism. The Buk is not a “Lada”, it cannot be stolen from a petrol station.
The Dutch, despite having allowed the free sale of drugs, nevertheless didn’t go far enough into nirvana to not understand that this entire scheme was perfectly read by Moscow. Moreover, on the eve of the demarche of the commission, the Prime Minister of Malaysia stated publicly that he was acquainted with the accusations against Russia and wasn’t convinced. After the official publication of accusations, he said that the investigation was engaged, prejudiced, and politicised, and that its results do not suit Malaysia.
The Dutch also know that this year the European Union – which they are a member of – isn’t going to lift the “Crimean” and “Donbass” sanctions imposed on Russia (here the Dutch “revelation” won’t change anything), but does not support Ukraine any more, notices the non-fulfilment of the conditions of the Minsk Agreements by Kiev, and in the near future has to return the Russian delegation in PACE.
I will stress that this concerns the coordinated policy of the EU. Moreover, after the new structure of the European Parliament and European Commission (where the position of globalists weakened, and the position of euro-sceptics strengthened) starts its work, the tendency to reconcile with Russia has to gradually become the dominating one in the European Union.
In the end, Trump, who is trying to obtain a meeting with the Russian president during the G20 summit, once again voiced his desire “to get on with Russia”. I write “trying to obtain” not because Putin evades a meeting or Russia builds some intrigues, but exclusively because of the internal political problems of Trump – the opponent-globalists already disrupted three meetings between Trump and the President of Russia announced by Trump himself.
It seems that the “international” commission had no grounds to opt for an aggravation. Especially since formally the Dutch dominate in it, but in practice the Americans control it. And this is well known in the Kremlin too. And Trump, like his predecessors, already had the time to be convinced that frightening Moscow by unfounded accusations, the “public opinion” of the West, and sanctions are absolutely rotten business – it will make things worse for him.
As was said, it is difficult to believe the desperate Dutch courage is caused by the abuse of soft drugs. Besides, during these same days there was also one more incident.
In Tbilisi radical Russophobes from Saakashvili’s remaining admirers rushed into the parliament at a time when a meeting of the Inter-parliamentary assembly of Orthodoxy was taking place, tried to beat up the representatives of the Russian delegation, who were forced to urgently leave Tbilisi, and after a riot, they started to demand the resignation of the speaker, the Minister of Internal Affairs, and other key figures of the authorities in power.
In Georgia if not a Maidan, then an imitation of a Maidan attempt is being unleashed. However, what it will end in ultimately depends on the adequacy of the Georgian authorities and their readiness to defend the state entrusted to them by the people against rioters.
Georgia is the second ball in the same billiard pocket. Tbilisi was not on friendly terms with Moscow, but had no special hostility (unlike during Saakashvili’s reign). The war of 08.08.08 was gradually being consigned to the past. Georgia, interested in Russian markets and Russian tourists, switched to pragmatic relations, the territorial question was de facto put outside the equation of bilateral relations. And suddenly such a flash, which anyway will introduce some tension in bilateral communication.
If Saakashvili’s followers will manage to pressure the authorities (especially via doing another coup), then Russian-Georgian relations may be dragged backwards to August 2008. Of course, it is worse for Georgia, but it is also unpleasant for Russia, especially since Saakashvili’s followers, should they come to power, are ready at any moment to provoke another war.
So on the one hand, Russia (not the four “suspects, but namely Russia) is accused of destroying a civilian airliner in Ukrainian airspace five years ago. On the other hand, there is an attempt to organize another military conflict (or at least to aggravate the situation) in the Caucasus against Moscow.
What will it give and whom will it benefit?
Firstly, Trump’s opponents once again will be able to pressure the White House for the purpose of disrupting the meeting with Putin. After all, for Moscow this is neither hot nor cold, but for Trump the election comes nearer (in November 2020), and without the normalisation of American-Russian relations, his fight against the Democrat candidate will be extremely difficult.
But if Russia is once again demonized as a terrorist state (it shot down a plane and it again offends Georgia), then the American voter frightened by the “Russian threat” almost with guarantee will fail the “agent of the Kremlin” Trump.
Secondly, these same globalists (I will stress that they are not the EU, not the US Administration, not the united West, but namely the globalists, who still maintain a very serious, although quickly decreasing, but in many respects defining political influence in America and Europe) are strategically interested in disrupting the “Nord Stream-2” project.
Not because they want to help Ukraine or to satisfy the ambitions of Poland, and even not for cleansing the European market for American liquefied gas (although for this purpose too). The implementation of the “Nord Stream-2” project immediately and sharply strengthens the positions of pragmatic national elites in European countries and catastrophically undermines the positions of globalists.
Relying on guaranteed deliveries of Russian energy carriers, the EU (in the persons of state-minded elites) is escaping the control of globalists, which, by the way, will also sharply improve Trump’s position in the US. He then cannot be accused of undermining transatlantic unity, because the EU (if it survives) will take a position similar to Trump’s.
In general, if concerning intra-American affairs the accusation against Russia is favourable only to Trump’s opponents, then concerning the fight for global economic domination and for the EU as a part of the western global project, Trump’s opponents are unambiguously interested in disrupting “Nord Stream-2”. But Trump will have both bonuses and problems as a result.
However, judging by who works in Trump’s team and how they work, the White House is in general also ready to fight against “Nord Stream-2”, but hardly at any cost. In particular, Trump obviously does not want to risk another disrupted and thus final meeting between the Presidents of Russia and the US, because there may not be another one.
From here we can draw a simple conclusion. Both American globalists, who are going into the upcoming election to take away power from the nationalist-orientated Trump administration, and their European colleagues, who are not simply losing their power in the EU, but are facing the prospect of a united Europe crashing, are interested in more demonising of Russia, declaring it a terrorist state and recognising its authorities as being too dirty to shake hands with.
In the political sphere this gives them the chance to intercept the information agenda from euro-sceptics and Trumpists, having focused attention on their threatening “ties with Russia”, which “shoots down planes” anywhere and constantly “attacks neighbours”.
In the economic sphere, disrupting “Nord Stream-2” at the last minute makes Europe a hostage of these same globalists, who, having cut off the EU from Russian energy carriers, will create its critical dependence on the globalist policy in the Middle East and in the World Ocean.
After all, poor Denmark was already exhausted – alone, over the course of a year, to be at the forefront of the struggle to hold off the combined efforts of Russia, Germany, and Italy, while France is demonstratively “neutral”. Copenhagen has no more opportunities, without facing catastrophic consequences for itself, to block the construction of “Nord Stream-2” in its exclusive economic zone. The Belgians, Austrians, and Czechs started to roar at it.
It’s quite another matter if it concerns a project of the “terrorist state”. So then it will be already difficult for European lobbyists for cooperation with Russia to advance their ideas.
So it’s hardly coincidental that, in the fifth year of its “work”, the International Commissions of Inquiry “suddenly” found the “suspects”, “appointed” as such on Ukrainian social networks even in the summer of 2014. Especially since the commission in five years still doesn’t have confirmation of their “suspicions” besides posts on social networks.
This isn’t the effect of weed. This is big-time politics and very big money.
1. The Commission is a front, like the 9/11 Commission, Warren Commission. The lack of inclusion of a sovereign nation, Malaysia, where the airline and aircraft was based tells you that much. That does not make sense, unless the Dutch think the Malaysians were involved in the downing. Perhaps as revenge for years of Dutch colonialism.
2. The same ZioNazis that handed out cookies and sniper bullets in Maidan are more likely to be the perpetrators than Putin, who has stated that Donbass is not Russia.
Ivan, keep in mind the Indonesia including Malaysia, if I am not mistaken, were Dutch Colony, and therefore suggests to me that Holland continues to treat them as such.
To correct the first statement, Malaysia (or back then Malaya) was never a Dutch colony. Direct Dutch involvement was only limited to Malacca and not the whole peninsular. The Malay peninsular was wholly a British colony until its independence in 1957.
To answer the lack inclusion for Malaysia is simple. Its populace are fairly savvy to world events and they hold a very dim view against the Israel’s Zionist. Naturally, this is extended to the US, which for all intents and purposes, a colony of Israel.
It was obvious from the very beginning that they blindsided Malaysia for fear it might jeopardize their narrative of how and who shot down MH17, and why. The Malaysians might ask critical questions or demand proof from parties the Dutch investigators woud like to avoid in order to keep its narrative intact. Being a former British colony and part of the Commonwealth doesn’t automatically mean Malaysia would play along and toe the line. After all, its own plane was shot down.
So, it wasn’t until Ukraine was given the veto power to the Dutch report, Malaysia was then allowed to join the investigation. You can pretty much predict how this would end up. Malaysia’s Prime minister was entirely and absolutely correct to state the report is a complete farce.
Whom would you be inclined to believe? The Dutch and Australian ministers who reads from a prepared script …. or a well respected (well, maybe not to the Semites) 93 year old nonagenarian who correctly fingered Soros & co. for initiating the 1997 Asian currency crisis. A venerable old man.
The whole process is an even bigger farce than the Lockerbie show trial. There two men were framed for ‘conspiracy’ yet one was exonerated and the other convicted. It does not compute. A sham trial where US diplo-thugs openly assisted the persecution from the body of the court, yet no Western presstitutes noticed. Generation after generation the Imperial thugs lie, frame, disinform and peddle ludicrous propaganda, yet no Western presstitute ever notices, and they swallow it all, lock, stock and barrel, every time. Even a planarian worm cut in two has a better memory than these scum.
I remember when the Lockerbie trial was moved to Holland, and Lester Coleman was arrested when he attempted to attend that trial to give evidence for the Libyan defendants,
Joe Vialls of Perth had similar views as Lester in regard to Lockerbie, and when I heard the news I rang Joe to warn him and ascertain that he was safe, Old Joe was completely unperturbed in regard to Lester’s fate, and Joe later recalled his association with Fort Bragg in denying Lester Coleman’s credentials with the DIA.
There is another reason why Malaysia was not invited to join the investigation team; Prime Minister Najib Razak.
The Malaysian Prime Minister as per reports from the Australian ABC had received ‘gifts’ of $681million from the Saudi Royal family, prior to MH17, but that figure was later revised to $1billion after MH17. Razak was never going to permit Malaysians to learn the truth and of his involvement in this matter.
The present Malaysian Prime Minister is well aware of these facts which is why he returned from retirement to oust Razak from office, and is why he has stated that Russia was not involved with MH17
Mr MacGregor, your claims here against Mr Najib Razak, the former PM of Malaysia, is appalling, self-contradictory and devious. If as you claim that “Razak was never going to permit Malaysians to learn the truth, and of his involvement in this matter” why then did JIT not allow his involvement, since it is now clear that JIT was never going to allow the truth of the MH17 tragedy to see the light of day? Najib’s or Malaysia’s involvement with JIT would surely afford it a nice veneer of credibility to the whole investigation. One suspects that your assertion is not warped logic but something dubious.
And is the Australian ABC not a part of the MSM, and along with the BBC, Guardian, etc, not all working in concert and direction of the BBG in the US? Najib has explained the reason the Saudi royal gave him the money, whether it was $681 mln or a billion dollars, Najib did profer an explanation for it (which I cannot recall now). It is interesting for you to link the SA with Najib’s role for the cover up, but also SA’s role in the shoot down of MH17??!!. Are you implying then that it is the SA’s invisible hand behind that criminal act against a civilian jet liner over Ukraine?
Fyi, way before Najib became PM after Badawi Abdullah (Mahathir’s successor), rumours were already flying in KL and Singapore about Najib’s credibility and integrity. Western propaganda was already churning the ground for what was to come in the last GE there. Yet you claimed that Mahathir “returned from retirement to oust Razak from office”??! Your claim cannot hold true for two reasons. Firstly, Mahathir was PM for over 30 years, and a lot of the trouble and angst of the Malaysians, particularly the Chinese and other minority races, were a direct result of his govt and policies. Secondly, Najib was working on a different trajectory. He was enacting policies that would look into the interests of all the people, not just the Bumiputras. And it was Najib who did away wIth their Internal Security Act, which allows the arrest and incarceration (imagine ten or even 20 years behind bars without cause other then the whims and fancy or fear of the powers that be) of any citizen without charge nor allow them a defence. Also, your claim seems idiotic in the context that Mahathir will assuredly be reelected when he was not much respected except in his inner circle. It was joining forces with Anwar Ibrahim, his ex-DPM whom Mahathir threw in prison for several years on charges of sodomy. And another interesting fact was Anwar was received by none other than Boris Johnson in the UK, and Abe in Japan, before or after the last GE. Why? The dots are connecting, are they not?
Najib’s political and legal troubles now are not as cavalierly explained away as you intended. In recent by-elections in Malaysia Najib’s party had won against the Mahathir/Anwar coalition (Pakatan), this after he was ousted as PM and facing corruption charges of a magnitude unseen in Malaysian history. Why? Are people repenting in leisure? You bet! And even their online media unplugged the comment section because Najib was getting a lot of online support, well wishes and encouragement. And it was the ordinary folks who helped raise half a million ringgit to put up his bail. Go figure out…
In the few interviews I have seen Najib give whether it is outside the court house or a formal setting, he comes across as a principled, reasoned, respectful, and intelligent man, nothing deceitful or cunning. Mahathir and gang are still having a difficult time making the mud stick.
It is wrong and wicked to trample on a man’s reputation and standing in society without knowing anything about him. He is down now but he is not out. Resist and desist in what you are doing to Najib, please. I pray that God will deliver him from the evil that is enveloping him and his wife for too long now.
Btw, Najib’s daughter is married to a nephew of Nursultlan Nazarbayev, former President of Khazakstan who recently stepped down from his long held position after the breakup of the USSR. And Najib has returned to the Saudi royal the money in his keeping.
One last thing, Najib was actively working with China on the BRI, one of the first in Asia to jump on that “win-win bandwagon” to build high speed rail connecting China to Malaysia on to Singapore. Let me just say that the stakes are very high for local businesses. Not forgetting another reason being that Malaysia is an impt staging post to destabilize Thailand to contain China.
Thank you very much for your corroboration of what I said. You have stated; “Najib has explained the reason the Saudi royal gave him the money, whether it was $681 mln or a billion dollars, Najib did profer an explanation for it”.
And that’s a “bribe”! Pure and simple it is a bribe, nothing more, nothing less, and what was the bribe for be it $US 681mill or $US1Bill?
And then you give us another little tit-bit; “Anwar Ibrahim, his ex-DPM whom Mahathir threw in prison for several years on charges of sodomy.” Yes, I remember Anwar Ibrahim, and the joke that he was Paul Keating’s umm, well yes, went round Australia for a month before it became stale gossip.
But, do you know who Anwar Ibrahim really is? He and first officer Fariq ab Hamid were cousins. You do remember first officer Fariq ab Hamid? the co-pilot of MH370, the person the MSM claimed was responsible for the crash of MH370.
We in Australia have an old adage; that blood is thicker than water. Dr Mahathir was extremely clever with his decision regarding Anwar Ibrahim.
And yes, an old friend Elizabeth Khoo told me about the massacres of Chinese in the 60’s, and I also remember Mahathir’s remarks regarding the IMF when Soros mounted his attack on the seven Asian Tigers. Unfortunately Indonesia didn’t listen.
There is an additional fact to add to these anomalies re the supposed investigation, allegations from Holland. That is that there is no escaping the fact that Ukraine was involved as a possible suspect and had to be treated with suspicion, given that for reasons unknown she directed an airliner to cross her “banned” air space which was a war zone, and reduce altitude. The Ukrainian Secret Service invaded the Control Tower within one hour of the crash, and removed all tapes, which have not only never been found, but never even asked for.
Nonetheless, in spite of this, Ukraine was invited to be on the panel of nations tasked with “investigating” the affair – an unprecedented move – and more, the 4 nations involved signed a legal pact that the results could only be released if all 4 agreed. it took only Ukraine to refuse to give permission, and the results of the “investigation” were to held incommunicado.
Can you imagine a more in your face, stinking to high heaven, situation??
Thanks to Ollie and Angelina for the translation.
Ishchenko always sees the precise heart of the matter.
Nord Stream 2.
He paints such a clear picture. Don’t look at the Dutch fabrication of charges against the Russians for MH-17. Don’t worry about the attempt at Maidan in Georgia. These are lies and mud thrown at the Kremlin, Putin and Russia.
I’m surprised that there isn’t a poisoning mixed in, but that is the UK tradecraft. The Dutch merely procrastinate, defile the evidence, allow Ukies access but no reputable experts (even from Malaysia, nor of course, from Russia). And then produce namesof bogus “suspects” as a smear job.
What will the globalists and the Hegemon do to stop Nord Stream 2? Anything. They still have plenty of time. The Danes are feverishly trying to dream up something.
As the author noted, as night follows day, ‘further charges’ will be fabricated leading, inevitably, to Putin himself. These freaks know no other modus vivendi than ceaseless aggression and perpetual hatred.
Just as Ronald Reagan was tried and hanged for authorizing the shooting down of Iran Air 655.
Yes and the Captain of the ship awarded medals for committing a heinous crime against humanity. America is a sad place now, kept alive by the viagra of Israeli bribes and it’s irrelevant notions of its own indispensable nature. Time to place the pillow over the face of the faded rambling dementia addled exceptionalist nation.
But the captain of the USS Vincennes was rewarded for his martial valour, and the Vincennes returned to home port to a ‘heroes welcome’.
It’s not impossible that Justice might prevail, and Ronny suffer an Oliver Cromwell type end.
I well remember being in California on a visit when the shoot down happened, I was in a market line and on the gazette stand there were already published gazettes with headlines as, Putin killed my whomever! This 1-2 days after. Nothing has changed except hopefully the credibility of the criminally deranged accusations.
The local ABC sewer simply states that flights will be diverted from over the Persian Gulf, because ‘…Russia shot down a passenger plane over Ukraine five years ago’. No pretense of anything but deranged, lying, hate-mongering.
“And then produce the name of bogus “suspects” as a smear job… ”
And we recall who started blaming the very same suspects some years ago and kept repeating the names periodically at every of the so called “alt-media” blogs ( Cassandra, L…, S…,..) , and we confirm our suspicions on who are on whose payroll…..
Russia has already made it clear that Nordstream II is unstoppable. The pipe will be completed.
In my day, it was said that ‘Dutch Courage’ came from a bottle. Nothing much has changed.
Except now it comes from a pipe, and the dream comes from a bottle.
Some of these globalists cats do not want to find themselves on the wrong side of nature, it is a battle (or war), they can not win. The scars of war do not lie and are proof of battle readiness. Good article by the way.
First of all, thank you for this superb article by R. Ishenko who as usual shines a light on the big picture.
Secondly, I do not intend to be flippant in the discussion of deadly serious topics but it is not
only the weed but also it is the fact that the neocon looneytuners are afflicted with “magical thinking” to the point of sophomoric attempts to market their high priced LNG as “freedom” gas. It’s Magical thinking added to an adolescent rampant regressive emotionalism….and, it’s the weed.
So I must agree with Hermione below: “It won’t work” and it is Putin and Lavrov’s thankless task to patiently explain this to them. Maybe they can propose the leasing of a few cutting edge, high tech Russian icebreakers to help the US oil folks exploit their section of the Arctic wealth up Alaska way: Art of the deal–Russian style.
” It won’t work”
The question of who shot down MH17 remains unresolved, primarily because the “investigation” was run by several US NATO puppets and the chief suspect, post-coup Ukraine, who were granted veto power over the release of any evidence pointing to them. Malaysia was excluded from the investigation for months, and to this day has not been allowed to hear the cockpit voice recording of their pilots.
That pretty much tells us who really shot it down, doesn’t it? But, lets look at a few of the actual facts that are not in dispute.
First off, context. Five months earlier a US orchestrated and backed coup led by fascist militias had violently overthrown the legally elected government of Ukraine and replaced it with a government of the far right which among other things had passed a law banning the Russian language spoken by most people in eastern and southern Ukraine. A hastily called fake “election” in which the two parties which had won 60 percent of the vote in the overthrown parliament were not allowed on the ballot had “elected” Poroshenko as “President”, and he had promptly launched an assault on the local governments in eastern Ukraine. The local people in Donetsk and Luhansk provinces had formed self-defence militias to protect their mayors and local governments from arrest and/or murder by fascist militias from western Ukraine. The local government in Crimea held a referendum to leave Ukraine and rejoin Russia, which passed by over 96 percent. In April around 100 people protesting the coup in Odessa were burned alive and/or shot in a massacre led by fascist militias thugs. In May, protected by hastily formed local militias, the provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk held similar referendums to succeed from Ukraine which also passed by over 90 percent.
The United States CIA took over the top two floors of the Ukrainian SBU Intelligence agency and assumed control of the SBU and the developing civil war. Near the end of June CIA Director John Brenner made a secret visit to Ukraine over a weekend.
At the end of June, Poroshenko announced an all-out WW II style assault on Donetsk and Luhansk provinces with tanks, heavy assault rockets, artillery, mobile guns, helicopters, and SU-25 ground assault aircraft. By mid July this assault was in full swing and Donetsk and Luhansk were being bombed and shelled daily by the Ukrainian Air Force. The militias defending Donetsk and Luhansk obtained shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles from Russia to defend themselves against the SU-25 ground attack bombers attacking their cities and defensive positions. These type of short range missiles have a maximum altitude of around 3000 metres, far below commercial jets at 10,000 metres, but sufficient to shoot down the SU-25’s and helicopter gunships attacking them near the ground.
On July 17th, 2014, in the midst of this violent offensive against the cities and provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk the air traffic controllers in Kiev diverted Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17 200 kilometres north from its usual route over the Sea of Azov and ordered it to overfly the centre of the war zone in eastern Ukraine. No reasonable explanation for this change of route has ever been provided by Ukraine. The Kiev Air Traffic Control tapes were seized by the Ukrainian SBU less than an hour after the shootdown and have never been seen since. Where are they? The JIT didn’t ask that question.
The United States CIA had a hate on against Malaysia because they had hosted an International War Crimes Tribunal which had indicted George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and various other top American officials for invading Iraq (War of Aggression) and the many atrocities and crimes committed during the war. Although Malaysian Airlines had one of the best safety records in the business, in 2014 they lost three airliners in mysterious circumstances. CIA Payback?
Over several days prior to July 17th, as shown on Russian and European satellite photos, Ukraine had moved at least half a dozen BUK missile launchers into the area Flight MH-17 was now directed to fly over. The militias of Donetsk and Luhansk had no aircraft. What was the reason for Ukraine moving BUK launchers into this area? After July 17th they were removed, so apparently it wasn’t any concern about the Russian Air Force coming to the defence of Donetsk and Luhansk. The JIT didn’t ask that question.
There is a precedent of a Ukrainian missile shooting down a civilian airliner and then denying it. On October 4, 2001, a Ukrainian missile battery in Crimea shot down a Siberia Airlines TU-154 en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk over the Black Sea, killing all aboard. Ukraine denied having shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 for weeks, but eventually admitted to it, claiming it was a training accident, and paid $15 million to the victims families. The JIT report didn’t mention that.
Kiev has never provided its radar tapes to the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), claiming none of its radars, either military or civilian air traffic control, were working in eastern Ukraine that day as they were all shut down for maintenance. Given that they had supposedly moved the BUK launchers into the area because they were worried about the Russian Air Force coming to the defence of Donetsk and Luhansk, it is hard to believe that they really had all their radars turned off in a war zone where their own planes were engaged in bombing. But, lets take them at their word. Why, if all their Air Traffic Control radars were turned off, making it impossible for their air traffic controllers to track the planes they were supposed to be guiding, would they re-route Flight MH17 into that area? The JIT didn’t ask that question.
Although the Ukrainian radars, both military and civilian, were supposedly all turned off for maintenance at the same time, the Russian radar was working. Russian civil Air Traffic Control was watching MH-17 which was just entering it’s range when it was hit and saw it descend and disappear. This radar would have seen a BUK missile if launched from the east, but not from the west, which was out of its range. It did not see any missile. The more powerful Russian military radar was also monitoring traffic in the war zone as Ukrainian SU-25s were actively bombing Donetsk and Luhansk at the time just over the border. It did not see any BUK missile fired from either direction, but did see a Ukrainian SU-25 following MH-17 about 5 kilometres behind it, which is well within the launch range of the R60 air-to-air missiles and Israeli Python missiles carried by some SU-25s. The Russians supplied this radar data to the JIT, but the JIT report didn’t mention it or ask the obvious question: what was a ground attack aircraft doing up at 10,000 metres following a civilian airliner immediately before it broke up and plunged to the ground?
The US had an Aegis class Cruiser in the Black Sea at the time. This type of warship specializes in long-range air defence and radar detection. They also had a spy satellite overhead at the time, and would normally have at least one electronic surveillance spy plane watching a war zone they were involved in. Secretary of State John Kerry immediately claimed they had all the data and watched the entire shootdown. But . . . five years after MH-17 was shot down they have not provided any of their radar, electronic evesdropping, or satellite data to the JIT. Why not? The JIT report didn’t ask that question.
Following the shootdown, the Donetsk self-defence militias operating in the area started searching for the Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder. Within a couple of days they had recovered both, and turned them over to a team from Malaysian Airlines who came to Donetsk to recover them. Malaysia then foolishly turned them over to the Dutch JIT, who in turn handed them over to the British to recover the data. The British stated they were in good shape and had not been tampered with and that all data was recovered. To this day it has not been made public, and the JIT report does not say what was on either recorder. According to their Prime Minister, Malaysia has not been allowed to hear the pilots cockpit voice recording. Why not? Why is this secret?
After the shootdown, the Dutch set up a Joint investigation Team with Australia, Belguim, and Ukraine, the chief suspect, but Malaysia was not allowed to participate. Each member, including Ukraine, has the right under a secret agreement to veto the release of any information deemed unfavourable to its interests. It is completely unprecedented for a so-called “investigation” to give the chief suspect the “right” to prevent the release of any information implicating them. That alone completely disqualifies any “findings” of this “investigation”. Members of the Dutch parliament attempted to get the terms of the JIT Agreement released, but it was deemed a “State Secret” by the Dutch government and has never been released.
The Ukrainian army repeatedly shelled the area of the crash for the following month, preventing the JIT investigators from accessing it and destroying evidence. The JIT report makes no mention of this obstruction by Kiev.
The Russian company which makes the BUK missile went to great lengths to set up a similar IL-86 aircraft cockpit on a scaffold and exploded a BUK missile in the exact position and angle the Dutch JIT claimed the missile would have approached from based on the shrapnel pattern. They invited the press and the JIT to observe the test, but the JIT refused to attend or review the results and see if the shrapnel from a BUK matched the damage on the reconstructed sections of MH-17’s fuselage. Why did the JIT refuse to send an observer? Are they trying to determine whether it was a BUK, or do they not want to know?
In photos the cockpit area of MH-17 appears to have been hit with machine gun fire from a 30mm cannon as well as shrapnel from a missile warhead. The first international observer on the scene, a Canadian OSCE military observer monitoring the civil war, specifically stated in a CBC interview it appeared to him MH-17 had been hit with heavy machine gun fire. As a military observer he would know what heavy machine gun fire damage looks like. The Russian air force set up a test using a SU-25 to strafe an old aircraft cockpit to compare the damage and entry/exit holes of the SU-25 cannon to those found on MH-17. The JIT declined to send an observer. Why? Are they actually trying to determine what happened to MH-17, or are they actually trying to cover it up?
Some of the photos of the cockpit area show both entry and exit holes (some flared in and some flared out) of around 30mm diameter on the same side of the fuselage panels just below the pilot’s seat, something that cannot result from a missile warhead exploding on only one side of the aircraft. The JIT report makes no comment on this, which completely discredits their claim that a single BUK missile warhead exploding on the port side of the aircraft was the sole cause of its destruction.
The JIT stated that the missile that detonated about two metres from the cockpit of MH-17 weighed about 33 kg, but a BUK missile warhead weighs over twice as much: 75 kg. On the other hand, the warhead of Israeli Python air-to-air missile carried by some SU-25s weighs around 30 kg. Why does the JIT report not comment on this discrepancy?
When a BUK missile is launched it is extremely noisy and leaves a very visible white smoke trail from it’s solid fuel exhaust which is visible for up to 15 miles, yet no one saw or photographed it. On the other hand, in the days following the shootdown the BBC interviewed numerous eyewitnesses who claim to have seen a SU-25 following the MH-17 down before heading west toward Ukraine. Why does the JIT report make no mention of this?
And so forth. I’ll wrap this up before it get into book length, although there is plenty more to say. It is patently obvious the JIT “report” and false “murder” charges are little more than a blatant fraud designed to cover up a deliberate crime committed by Ukraine with the assistance or at the behest of the CIA.
The purpose of the crime was to defame the Self-defence militias of Donetsk and Luhansk by accusing them of being “terrorists” which automatically kicks in all kinds of sanctions and laws in various countries making it illegal for anyone to support them; to get back at Malaysia for hosting the International War Crimes Tribunal that indicted the Bush administration for invading Iraq, to kick-start the full scale attack on Russia and Putin that continues to this day, and to provide cover for the massive Israeli invasion and bombing of Gaza and attendant massacre of thousands of people which not co-incidentally started just a few hours after the MH-17 shootdown grabbed the headlines. A multi-purpose False Flag, the CIA’s speciality.
Salandria’s approach, fine tuned during his life work on JFK’s murder, was to instead of looking to the miles deep murky waters of details, analise what would a government interestes in finding out the truth do.
On this particular case (like in many others), JIT actions, an even inactions, are more revealing than their actual written findings. A classical, textbook of what we could call “Salandria’s Corollary” example!
There should be a contest not as to whom or how so much, but as to why JFK was killed, let the public audience decide the winner based on the information given.
This would clear up a lot of assumptions concerning this matter of whom so many have made a career out of.
Yet every single point you raise is either completely suppressed by the Western presstitute scum, or denied, simply because it exonerates Russia. Same old, same old. Lies wall to wall, end to end, serving power every time. Yet these propaganda scum have the gall to claim that they are ‘truth-tellers’ and arrogantly preen and posture as people of ‘integrity’.
Wow! Thanks so much for this comprehensive account.
I was following the events already at the Saker blog when the shoot-down took place.
But it is impossible for me to keep all these details on tap, even though I recognize from your account having read about many of them.
I am not one who can assess whether anything important has been omitted from your rundown, but it certainly looks to me like a document that should be archived somewhere special for easy access and reference. And one that members of the JIT should see and be obliged to respond to.
The litany of “let’s not look at that evidence” is damning.
Seeing it all laid out in chronological order is really valuable.
Can this “bill of particulars” be sent to the JIT and entered into evidence or something?
Sent to journalists as a fact sheet?
Does the JIT operate in any sense as a trial court, with “friends of the court” types of filings?
It is beyond me why Russian commentators are so unarmored with Trump. He represents the same Israeli position as the rest of them. He is representing the same globalists , just using different methods. Creating a false interpretation about power struggle between globalists and nationalists. In USA case one and the other is simply the same. Their globalism was always nationalism , because they knew ,that they were on the top. Now, when they are loosing the game, set to their advantage ,they are trying different way of dominating the world. Trump is just a continuation of the same by different means. If you are loosing dominating position in globalist ways, mostly due to loosing primacy in production and technology, you set the mind towards regaining that position by other means. Those include bulling others by force, whatever is left of it, or trying to impose their will on others by buying politicians ,blackmail and thuggery. Nothing really changed in American approach to the world, the only thing that changed is methods, that are suited to the present situation. The absolute power is gone, so now other means are employed. Trump is no different than those before him. The goal stays the same. Just that all by now realise that methods must change.
‘Moreover, the list of these “suspects” can be randomly expanded, up to the country’s top brass’.
So – let’s see if I have understood this – the remote possibility (unsupported by any shred of evidence) that some Russian soldiers might have been involved in shooting down a civilian airliner is reason to accuse and, perhaps, put on trial members of the Russian government?
Whereas members of the last 10 or 12 US administrations (at least) are wholly pure and innocent despite having deliberately attacked (and in some cases invaded) dozens of nations, killing many million civilians, destroying infrastructure and overthrowing elected governments.
Moreover, of course, it is painfully obvious that MH17 was shot down on the orders of the Kiev junta using a Buk unit that is known to have been part of the Ukrainian armed forces’ arsenal since the 1980s.
And, by the way, what about Iran Air 655 which was deliberately shot down by the USS “Vincennes” in 1988? That was no mistake, and there isn’t the tiniest uncertainty as to exactly what happened. When the “most advanced and sophisticated” air defence system in the world, intended to protect task forces against scores of simultaneously attacking missiles and aircraft, seemed unable to distinguish an airliner on its normal route at the normal time from a jet fighter descending to attack? When vice-president George H.W. Bush declared that “I will never apologize for the United States — I don’t care what the facts are… I’m not an apologize-for-America kind of guy”.
Double standards? The term is completely inadequate. Washington and its employees worldwide have only one standard: ‘We are always right, no matter what filthy deeds we do; and those we name as our “enemies” or “adversaries” or “competitors” or “threats” are always wrong, no matter how saintly their behaviour’.
When dealing with a set of vicious, murderous, cruel psychopaths there is no point in trying to fit their actions into any kind of moral or legal framework. You must simply recognize them as the vile criminals they are, and deal with them as best you can.
The MH17 ‘investigation’ never has any intention of getting to the truth. The only aim was to quickly reach the conclusion that Russia was guilty.
As the Russians quite rightly point out, there hasn’t been any satisfactory evidence presented yet. And the evidence provided by the Russians themselves points conclusively to the attack being carried out by the Ukrainians.
According to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, the country in which an aviation incident occurs is responsible for the investigation, but that country may delegate the investigation to another state. Ukraine has delegated the leadership of both investigations to the Netherlands.
When Ukraine breaks up and Eastern Ukraine becomes an independent country, the authorities in Donetsk (which is where the aircraft crashed) can open up a second investigation. They have the photos of the wreckage which clearly shows the nonsensical conclusions drawn by the Dutch investigators. This second investigation will show that the Dutch investigators have perverted the course of justice and as a result arrest warrants will need to be issued for these individuals.
Russia should use all her influence within Eurasia/ China/ Pakistan/ India to make sure that international arrest warrants are in place. So when these “investigators” realise that doing the dirty work for the empire incurs a high personal cost (ie not being able to travel across half the world) maybe they will think twice before signing their names to a frame-up.
Although the true perpetrators will never be found no mercy should be shown for the dishonest Dutch!
Nice work. I think the article would be improved by naming names of “these same globalists (I will stress that they are not the EU, not the US Administration, not the united West, but namely the globalists.” Why not just list the names of the major players? Without names, the articles feels just a tiny bit coy.
He’s referring to the “invisible government”, as Edward Bernays called them. Today we use the term “deep state”, but that perhaps only alludes to actors inside the USA. In the next tier down the pyramid there are the likes of Soros and Rothschild.
I agree: Name all the known names. The concept of the Deep State is so murky. I think those who write about it as a dynamic factor of influence should name what the term means to them—how are *they* using it—and that means naming names.
If another analyst disagrees, or uses the term to mean a different group, fine. Let’s hear what that guy’s lisllt of names. Pretty soon we would start being able to discern the outlinens of different Deep State identities. Sure, it would be a process, but it would progres.
And, doing this would anchor the existence of the Deep State in reality, not pure speculation (as decriers and “conspiracy theorist” abusers wish to do: consign the idea of a Deep State to the deep dump of “conspiracy theory.”).
So, out with the names! Spit them out. Let’s hear who *you* the author think they are.
Russia is more than likely back as a full PACE member ..might still be ructions..some kinda review going on about the rules etc for questioning….Ukraine suspends it membership Z is disappointed claiming Ukraine stopped the Russian invasion who is responsible for the thousands of deaths in Donbass etc and Ukraine is currently present in an Nato- ukraine meeting of sorts definitely moving twards membership as their military has been certified as meeting Nato standards of a sorts(yup we know the Nato really dodgy pretentious standards)…MH17 not to be discussed….Baltics Georgia of course( maybe the recent scenes out there were another blame and prevent game against Russia bit of coincidence re the timing surely folks)Ukraine Poland UK voted against the return of Russsia……so…maybe a positive step as Peskov hopes everyone will sometime come to their senses re Crimea? Worth the 27 million membership fee?
As I understand it, the Dutch say a Russian Buk was brought to Pervomaisk, a small village in nowhereland, which needed no air defence. It would have been different if it had been brought to Lugansk, where an angry Ukrainian pilot destroyed a whole street.
Greetings from The Netherlands Saker and readers! I have been following your blog roughly since those EU creeps Verhofstadt and fat pig Van Baalen were speaking to the gathered crowds at the Maidan square. I can tell you the majority here are still disgusted by it. However we are ruled by such a corrupt, arrogant, lying and deceiving political elite who show more and more disdain for the workers and tax payers in this union, that the cracks are becoming more and more visible.
Where five years ago it was almost impossible to speak out, even in private, against the common narrative of the BUK delivered and fired by the Russians, after the pathetic JIT presentation last week, even prominent lawyers are now openly commenting in MSM on the turn this investigation has now taken, by calling it a show process. Prominent professors are questioning the lack of evidence, journalists are wondering why other possibilities have not been investigated. Slowly things are changing, but we still live in a totalitarian state and the scary and frustrating thing is that many people refuse to see it.
Thank you for keeping reporting on this matter!!
Jacco, I imagine there are many decent people like you who are watching in horror at what some of your officials and politicians have become. This perversion of justice must be laid squarely at the feet of these individuals:
Fred Westerbeke, Public Prosecutor
Wilbert Paulissen, Chief of National Police
What are the next steps? Will the victims families now sue Russia in the European Court? Has the Dutch government officially endorsed these conclusions?
The Dutch government has refrained from getting involved due to the trias politica (seperation of powers: judiciary, parliament and executive government). Under Dutch law suspects can be sentenced even when not physically present (as one of the few countries in the world, is my understanding). This is why I guess it has to be done under Dutch law.
By the way, I just found out that parts of the law have been especially amended for this trial to facilitate video conferencing and allow for the English language. All this under a special agreement which allows the Dutch and the Ukranians to cooperate closely in this particular prosecution and sentencing of the suspects. I mean, really?!
The JIT does not for a minute expect the suspects to turn up for the trial. And no suspects means no (proper) defence. The relatives of the victims are expected to get a big role, so the case can be closed and ‘justice will have been done’.
In my mind, this has all been carefully planned from (before?) the beginning. It’s all too convenient. Netherlands, Ukraine, US and Russia must know exactly what happened. Taking everything into consideration, I guess the implications of this all are too horrible for the average Dutch person to even think about.
I loved how that slimy creep Westerbeke utterly falsely stated that Russia had not co-operated, then at some stage (later I presume) a police officer stated that the Russians had provided evidence, but it had been rejected. So confident are these scum of the duplicitous subservience of the Western presstitute vermin, that they don’t even bother making their bulldust consistent.
Google “Captain Voloshin” and “Carlos the Kiev Air Traffic Controller”.
(many link have magically disappeared)
Well didn’t Voloshin kill himself? LOL!! i still think its possible a BUK was never used and it was an air to air attack.
the most comprehensive piece on the issue was that piece from Cassad back then as well as that Canadian OSCE observer who saw the wreckage near Torrez with big caliber bullet holes.
After the Democrats won the House in the 2018 elections, Trump has gone over to the Globalists. His Supreme Court judge Kavanaugh was part of the Whitewater probe in 90s that covered up the Clinton’s crimes, especially the cocaine importing via Mena airport. He helped write patriot Act. trump has given up on a Nationalist agenda and is trying to appease the Globalists
Terry and Col Cassad right. MH17 shot down by Ukros on US orders. Kerry immediately blamed Russians without even pretending to do even a quickie investigation.
@ Terry —
Superb précis of the entire cover-up. Well done!
Agree, superlative. I don’t know who is in charge of the surreal JIT theatre of the
absurd, but don’t they have any self-awareness? How can they not see that they
are making a spectacle of themselves, shamelessly fornicating with the devil for
all the world to see?
One has to wonder at what point Russia may say ‘OK you don’t want the gas, we won’t keep trying, find it from someone else.’ And focus on selling it to Asia. There is so much methane in the World, if the Europeans have to find it elsewhere it can open other markets for Russia. It must get tiresome at some point to keep telling your customers, that this will be good for you and finally you might just tell them to get lost.
What the world needs is more methane and more fugitive emissions. It will speed anthropogenic climate destabilisation along, getting it over more quickly and humanely.
Is trump a nationalist? Sure like yeltsin, petain and quisling were. Like trump, these were nationalists who were nationalists for the powers colonising their home countries.
A less charitable, but more accurate, description of what these criminals are is traitor.
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… amazes me how easily large groups of people are incited into violent protesting.
It is almost as if people are being switched “on” and “off” like light switches and some get jammed in the “on” position. Thanks for this post Azorka.
The Chinese showed the only way to defeat a Colour Revolution in 1989. Crush the mo-fos. If some idiot, brainwashed, arrogant youth get in the way when the inevitable violent end-game begins, when the snipers start shooting, or triad thugs set fire to buses full of police, it is tragic, but a lesser Evil by very, very, far, than allowing your State to be overthrown and your country hacked into pieces.
There’s no evidence at all that Russia shot down MH17.
There would have been no reason to do so and doing it would have only caused all the problems that have followed since then. There’s no percentage in it for them.
The allegations they did come unreliable globalist euro interests hell bent on wrenching the Ukraine into it orbit of control. Interests that can’t even control their own countries political stability.
It is more likely EU forces downed the plane.
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Fanatic nationalists are the USA’s preferred stooges for regime change violence. First the moron, easily manipulated, ignorant and narcisstic youth are mobilised by CANVAS or some Soros NGO or NED organ, then when the violent climax and overthrow of the Government is needed, send in the Ukronazis, or the followers of some Russian nationalist like the air-brushed Navalny. The pity is that these various chauvinists, jingoists, racists and fascists in various states, hate one another as well. The antipathy between the USA’s pet fascists in Poland and Ukraine is a sad example of the tendency.
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