The civilians of the LDNR are being evacuated from the towns near the LOC (line of contact).
The Ukies are bombing the LDNR with artillery and mortar fire along the full LOC.
The city of Gorlovka has lost power. The city is under tank fire. The only road between Donetsk and Gorlovka is under Ukronazi fire.
The cities of Dokuchaevsk, Staromikhailovka and Belaia Kamenka are under mortar attack.
It appears that the Ukronazis want to cut through the defenses between Lugansk and Donetsk.
That’s what I just caught myself.
Now I am, once again, creating an OPEN THREAD to share information about what is taking place. Please try to stick to factual information and not post your opinions.
I will be back later once the picture becomes a little clearer.
Apparently a car bomb just went off just outside government headquarters in Donetsk.
The targeted vehicle belonged to the head of the DPR People’s Militia, Denis Sinenkov.
Nothing new. In the same way, Ukrainian terrorists killed the heroes of Donbass Alexander Zakharchenko, Mikhail Tolstykh (Givi) and Arsen Pavlov (Motorola).
Here is the live update thread on Sputnik:
DPR, LPR Order General Military Mobilisation as Kiev Continues to Shell Donbass; the Ukies continue using banned ammunition under the Minsk agreement and over 40 Towns and Villages in Donbass Could be Left Without Water as Result of Shelling by Ukrainian Forces, People’s Militia Spokesperson Says….
Lots going on.
CNN reporting (2/19) ‘renewed shelling’ on LOC, 1 Ukr army soldier killed, 37 cease-fire violations by separatists.
Implication: LDNR forces have violated the cease-fire, responsible for shelling.
Update report on explosion in Donetsk.
The carbomb at DNR HQ – what is the deal with that? The Ruptly video looks dark, but it’s only what, 4PM in Donetsk?
Links to Russian-language/LDNR sources (including Telegram) channels welcome! I’m trying to follow just with Tass and English RT (despite the grievances, they do get on the ground info, and info from Moscow rather quickly)
Putin has convened a meeting of the Russian Security Council.
A large number of western propagandists (aka “journalists”) are all over the the LOC on the Ukronazi side only, of course.
They report that a kindergarten was hit by LDNR fire and they show us what looks like a hole in the wall. The windows of the building appear to be unbroken.
I posted this two hours ago on Andrei’s blog. It debunks the Ukie-US fairytale.
Apparently there is powerful over the horizon radar being employed by someone in Europe, it is affecting the Netherlands.
“The 11 MHz HF Aero-OR subband in Europe is a mess right now. Not sure but looks like a possible OTHR. More analysis is needed.”
see rundown on “Container” https://youtu.be/c0vVTo37ZlU see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_radar
To listen to HF, you can use a remote receiver via the internet browser from this world map:
Professional shortwave broadcast usually uses AM, whereas amateur radio operators use LSB, USB and digital modes.
Feb 15th 2022 DONBASS SITREP FROM THE FRONT
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I find it difficult to believe that Putin & Co were unaware that what is taking place was imminent, and so the order for the evacuation must have been made prior too. All part of the greater strategy, of which we see only a part so far.
Please non opinions, just facts.
In what langage Andreï must talk?
My girlfriend’s grandparents were evacuated from inner Donetsk. This did not even happen during the wars in 2014 and 2015. This time it is real.
Putin is now saying that sanctions will be imposed by the West against Russia and Belarus “in any case”. The implications for Russian intervention in the Donbass should be clear.
Could this be the ONLY way to crush the Neo-Nazis? Russia extracts civilians and then it’s a free-fire zone in which opposition forces and even Ukrainian military (regular) pummels these bas%ards?
Ukrainian government is clearly unable to become stable enough to bond to the EU/Europe, and it’s certainly not stable enough to become a NATO member. For all practical purposes it’s a dead zone for the US (and West). There is nothing here to be gained for the US/West other than use it as a continued story-line for “Russia bad” (taxpayers give us more money for the arms industry!) and the hope of it being a continued burden on Russia (not quite a quagmire as might have been hoped, but a burden nonetheless- but it’s been that way anyway for some time now).
This is about the only reason I can think of as to why Russia is appearing as being on the defensive: but, they’re clearing the firing lanes (getting civilians out of the way) for offensive measures (which WILL be successful).
Civilians of the DPR and the LPR are being evacuated to the Russian Federation.
Kyiv can start a full-scale attack on Donbass at any moment, the situation is critical – Pushilin
Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation today will transfer funds to the Rostov region for payments to all refugees from the DPR and LPR.
Attempt by Kiev’s saboteurs to cross the contact line averted.
The car which exploded in Donetsk seems to be colonel Denis Sinenkov s car the commander of the DPR militia. Sinenkov was not injured.
I may be wrong, but I suspect this is a bluff. Zelensky certainly knows that if he invades Donbass, it will result in his own destruction. I think the US needs an excuse to say Russia invaded, and so they are bluffing an attack just enough to make Russia respond. A full invasion would be suicidal for Ukraine.
you assume Zelensky being in control of all, or at least the most EuroUkroWehrmacht
that has to be proved yet
remember, none of post EuroMaidan “presidents” dared to toss their nominal subordinate Avakov, formally just a police minister.
On the contrary, the last weeks cries of Zelensky of “there is no war” could be seen as desperate please of a helpless man, who understood way too late, that the war would be ordered without him, but in his name, and then he would be left holding the bucket, a discarded piano-playing scapegoat..
I am not sure yet that I’m fully with Dmitry’s reasoning on this one, but need to let it settle. What is still up front and center for me, is the speed with which things happened this morning.
Just about 4 hours ago, I reported the Kiev troops violation of the ceasefire as 29 times in past 24 hours and talked some about the reasoning for Minsk.
We always say the Russians are slow to the saddle but once they get on that horse, there is no stopping them. This is 4 hours later and we have a full evacuation in effect, complete with photos of orphans and oldies being evacuated.
The sequence of events overview:
The evacuation decision must have been on the cards for time. It looks orderly, evacuation points clearly established and published, medical treatment points on the border, and within an hour of being announced by the leaders of both Republics, the car convoys and buses were on their way to the Rostov region and this will continue for possibly weeks.
Pekov announced that Donbass refugees who arrive to the Rostov region will be provided with hot meals and other necessities, including medical attention, and financial assistance. The president has also dispatched the acting emergencies minister to the Rostov region in order to organize the creation of facilities to accommodate the refugees.
This was finely planned.
DPR and LPR leadership have refused Kiev’s offer to hold an extra session of the Trilateral Contact Group: Russia, Ukraine and the OSCE
Putin was doing a presser with Lukashenko when the evacuation news came out.
Main points of that:
▪️ “The process of resolving the internal Ukrainian crisis is still stalling. Kiev refuses dialogue with Donetsk & Lugansk, and sabotages the implementation of all key issues of Minsk agreements”
▪️ “The key to restoring peace in Ukraine is the implementation of the Minsk agreements. All Kiev needs to do is sit down at the negotiating table with representatives of Donbass. Unfortunately, now we are witnessing an aggravation”
▪️ Russia and Belarus will continue to collectively take measures to ensure security in the light of NATO’s activity; our joint exercises do not threaten anyone
▪️ On non-expansion of NATO, refusal to deploy strike weapons near Russia and return of 1997 borders: “The US and other members of the alliance are not yet set up to adequately perceive these three core demands”
▪️ “We are ready to follow the negotiating path, provided that all issues will be considered, without detaching from Russia’s proposals”
And in the US, suddenly their whole daily planning changed. Biden was going to talk to some people and say something (cannot remember the detailed nonsense) and suddenly he will “provide an update on Russia-Ukraine situation at 21:00 GMT”
The strategic issues .. I must tell you I don’t know and still sitting in a daze at how quickly things happened.
The last real news that I have, is this: Kiev could start a full-scale offensive at any moment, the situation is critical – Pushilin added that the region’s critical infrastructure is being guarded in case of potential terror attacks.
I think the Munich Security Conference has started. What a farce!
This has become a domestic MSM topic/meme to bolster Biden’s slumping numbers.
With Hillary trying to mount a campaign horse again, Biden is threatened with vast sectors of Dem party.
Hillary will carry away female support, and will get billions from gay fundraising. That is her constituency.
So, Biden must tend to Putin and Russia and the Invasion.
It’s Friday, and talking points for Weekend News Shows will be what the WH hopes is “Strong Joe” spits in the eye of the devil, Vladimir Putin.
“Democracy” is another substitute for Ukraine. We are going to save Democracy not Nazis killing children.
This is some of the ingredients in the melange served up by Joe today.
And the other theme is for the weak-ass vassals who are suffering chronic colitis out of fear of the Russian military grinding up Ukraine and maybe rolling over the Balts, Poland, Moldova, and Romania. Joe is assuring them the US will send troops and weapons and they will all be united as one bulwark against Russian aggression.
It’s Friday. Expect this stuff every Friday.
‘Changing the daily plan.’ It keeps the Durham Probe, pun intended, from seeing the light of day, pun intended.
In order not to spam this thread with secondary information.
I have uploaded my analysis of the “Kindergarden Attack” in this previous thread:
My post is a debunk of the Guardian article now circulating as evidence in Western media of a Russian falls flag attack directly against children.
The Guardian article which will be used by western politicians to raise a coalition of willing response against Russia. just like in Syria.
Thank you for clearing this up,
Reminded me so much of those scenes in Syria of the alleged chemical attacks..
If you look closer into the timeline of the pictures taken at the kindergarden you can see that at first the window next to the hole in the wall was still intact, a few hours later it was shattered but stil in the frame..
Anyways if a shell actually penetrated this wall those windows would be gone and there would be clear scorches/burnmarks all over so this looks like a setup/false flag by people who are not even aware of these basic balistic facts and thus very amateuristic.. or am i mistaking?
The article is FAKE NEWS War propaganda launched by the Guardian, on behalf of the British government.
The UK foreign secretary, Liz Truss, visiting Kyiv said; “Reports of – alleged – abnormal military activity by Ukraine in Donbas are a blatant attempt by the Russian government to fabricate pretexts for invasion.”
Boris Johnson said: Ukraine kindergarten shelling is a false-flag operation.
Classic Anglo: Problem – Reaction – Solution PSY-OP
The kindergarten looks more like it crumbled by itself, or was damaged by construction tools.
This “attack” was just breathlessly reported on NPR (National Propaganda Radio).
Battle with Ukrop Spetnaz near Gorlovka
Death online: footage of the battle with the special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Horlivka
Read more at https://rusvesna.su/news/1645188509
The DPR army released footage of the battle in the forest belt near Gorlovka, where today two groups of special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the amount of 10 and 12 people tried to break into the territory of the DPR. Recall that the defenders of the DPR Army were forced to open fire to kill, the enemy suffered the loss of at least two militants killed and three wounded and was forced to retreat. The footage of the battle was recorded by an action camera attached to the body armor of one of the Ukrainian militants.
Two days ago Google suddenly removed a video from 2014 Donetsk bombing, as it allegedly was disturbing and so on.
For 6 years that YouTube video was there without anyone batting an eye, then suddenly it got censored.
Like the info-field was being cleansed from any narrative where Donetsk is inhabited by people who might suffer.
I wonder if this video would be there for long.
Images from the city and the evacuation:
The poor idiots! Evacuating millions of new refugees a false flag? Do these people swallow parrots?
Martyanov was so funny in his last video. He says unfortunately you cannot tell a moron that he is a moron.
Updated 4 hours ago (17:30IRST/17:00MST/14:00GMT/09:00EST) as of this typing:
Key points of PressTV’s report:
*Increasing artillery strikes by Ukrainian forces against LDNR
*LDNR civilians ordered to evacuate towards Russia
*Russian and Belorussian leadership alarmed at violence, and call for calm
*NATO accuses Russia of having 190,000+ troops ready for invasion
Well, the West does not know how to spin this, so they are trying different spins. Anything that will stick.
That Baerbock that calls herself a women … she says she has heard that people don’t want to go on the busses.
They have no message – taken by complete surprise.
And Kiev – the poor babies: Kiev calls for trilateral contact group meeting on Saturday, ready to do anything necessary to restore ceasefire – RIA citing Ukrainian deputy PM.
Information has it that the orcs are going to try for Debalsyevo again to cut Novorossiya in two. Obviously their memories are lacking, last time they tried that the orcs and their golden pheasants got their butts waxed big time.
Fighting is intense at times along the entire lines of Novorossiya. So far NAF are holding out well. Evacuations of Donetsk City Proper and Gorlovka have started. I do not know how thick the convoys are at this time.
Our friends have refused to evacuate but will go if specifically ordered to do so. We have offered succor for them with us.
Comrade Auslander, please be safe!
For reference here is a link to a map briefly describing Battle of Debaltseve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Debaltseve#/media/File:Withdrawal_from_Debaltseve.svg
According to (evil) google maps the distance between Donetsk, Ukraine and Donetsk, Russia is 230km via highway, current ETA ~4.5 hours. Distance between Luhansk, Ukraine and Donetsk, Russia is only 73km; current ETA ~1.5 hours.
Let us pray the evacuation convoys make it to safety.
Sometimes there comes a time when we take up arms to defend our communities, but I admire Russia for its restraint in making that the last resort. How is it people don’t know the generational damage war does?
I’m thinking of my dad’s experience as a field ambulance medic in New Guinea in WW2. Like many who returned home he never recovered from not so much a hatred, but more a visceral horror of the Japanese. When I was born seven years later he was just out of hospital after surgery as a result of his service.
That generation just wanted a normal life at any cost. The price was my generation felt stifled and instead of pursuing forgiveness, peace and healing chose rebellion and the whole hippy madness happened. We are still seeing everything that makes us human being assaulted by that lot.
As for the Crimea, I feel strongly that the words of St. Julian of Norwich apply:
“And so our good Lord answered…most comfortingly: I may make all things well, and I shall make all things well, and I will make all things well, and you will see yourself that every kind of thing will be well”.
Very well said. My Dad also was a WWII vet and suffered a nervous breakdown years after the war. Pray for peace.
Anything that sells is good media plan B.
Besides Americans are not interested in the truth much anymore, just tell me what I want to hear.
Air raid sirens going off in Donetsk. Don’t know if it’s a test or real.
So far I have considered the Russian invasion stories a hoax. Now I believe the war will start on Monday. Donetsk and Lugansk have started evacuating civilians to Russia.
The Russian attack or counter attack, if it comes will encircle Kharkov. Maybe the aim is Poltava and the Dnieper. Russia has concentrated a large number of tanks and tracked artillery on the border opposite Kharkov. The tanks are offloaded from trains at the railway station in Tomarovka, a small town northwest of Belgorod and some 27 km from the border.
I have seen videos of almost a 100 tanks coming from the railway station and turning west on the road to Poltava. This latest batch has 28 T-80s.
“It appears that the Ukronazis want to cut through the defenses between Lugansk and Donetsk”. I see the potential of a cauldron being formed, allowing the Ukronazis in but not out, they will pay a heavy price!
That is also the biggest Ukie fear.
The first buses with residents of the DPR left in the direction of the Russian border. First of all, orphans are taken out of boarding schools. In total, it is planned to take out 700,000 people from the DPR alone. All of them will be accommodated, provided with free meals, each will receive 10,000 rubles. Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the acting head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations Alexander Chupriyan to urgently fly to the Rostov region and start creating conditions there for accommodating refugees from Donbass.
amazing. It will give confidence to Donbass that they are valued and protected .
And have something too go back to once the area is cleared for safe arrival.
China begin to be more incisive with US, speak louder and show a true exasparation.
Here is the Global Time editorial : voice of CCP
Does anyone have new information about the accreditation of NS2? Bullying Germany into refusing accreditation because of a “Russian invasion “ looks like the most obvious win for US out of this chaos?
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, in his opening speech called for immediate deescalation to the crisis.”
“There is no alternative to diplomacy.” he said.
You mean aside from Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Kuwait, Liberia, Panama, Granada, and many more? That the U.N. had no problem with? Shut your hole. You know NATO NEVER uses diplomacy. And the U.N. always approves. And with the UNOPCW fabricates the evidence for the aggressive war against children. …When the UN isn’t too busy running or protecting human trafficking. “Incubator babies!” Anyone arrested for that yet?
F.S., … just musing out loud!
Take the hysterical and hyperbolic Comrade Turner with bigbig grain of salsa…radar jamming and more…
excerpt> “Not only is the over-the horizon band being jammed, but regular aircraft frequencies and the US High-Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS) with which the United States communicates to all our military worldwide, are also being jammed.”
Maybe so. Anybody with a broad spectrum frequency analyzer, ie many Hams, would have a pretty good idea of the fact.
Jamming transmitter, if it’s true, is easily located by RDF.
I’ll wait for the “film at 11”, so to say. I do wonder about GPS jamming in the relevant area…
BTW, unusual for Peter Lavell, he did a pretty good job @ RT / “crosstalk” today.
Military / technical measures?
A second major explosion in the breakaway republics. This one in Lugansk. This one may have destroyed a gas pipeline.
No need for Russia to embargo gas supplies to Europe.
The Zelensky / Azov Regime have done it for them.
Gas company comments on blast amid escalation in eastern Ukraine
Putin has signed a decree for the “conscription for military training of citizens in the military reserve.”
18 Feb 2022
Please put a link. Mod.
@vicktop55 on twitter, who sources telegram new_militarycolumnist
I’ve been told that it is annual decree,and in itself not unusual, but normally issued in April. Given other events, the timing may be noteworthy.
A Fight broke out on a live TV show in Ukraine between Journalist Yuriy Butusov and parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych. It lasted a few minutes.
Ex-Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and Ex-President Poroshenko were present.
I’m sorry, but the only link to the video I have is from twitter:https://mobile.twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1494791327724281873
What a show of shameful behavior, right on front of a live audience, former Pres. Poreshenko and other ‘dignitaries’ present and cowering in the background, Ukraine in total disarray, showing the World what they have become… a total loss of nation, lead by a clown !
Wondered where Yats had been,i didn’t hear anything about that rat after he disappeared just after Ukraines gold reserves left the Country just after the Coup.
Interesting that the timing of the Attacks on Donbas coincide with the initiation of the use of force against the Canadian truckers simultaneously . Some synchronicity here ?
The Canadian government and Ukraine are closely tied, so the stress from the Ukraine situation probably carried over to the same people in Trudeau’s circle who were simultaneously faced with the trucker protest in Canada
It’s a national emergency, but in Ukraine, not in Canada, Trudeau.
PMJT has conducted himself with patience, a lot of patience and forbearance. He could have invoked the War Measures Act, that draconian piece of legislation, he didn’t. A much more appropriate and targeted piece of legislation was put into effect.
Kindly note: ALL the Provincial Premiers had ALL the authority needed to end this fiasco in a couple of days at the beginning. THEY chose not to. So, please place your blame for what’s happening where it belongs. The CONSERVATIVE Premiers of Albert, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario. (BTW, the so called conservatives in Canada are not actually Conservatives. much too far to the right)
Roger, the War Measures Act of which you speak was repealed in 1988 and replaced with the current Emergencies Act. It’s basically the same tool with some modifications. You note that the Provincial Premiers had all the authority needed to “end the fiasco”. Yet the Act itself states it can only be called when there are no other means of dealing with a situation. Therefore PMJT and his Deputy PM have acted outside their authority. The Act also stipulates that people’s constitutional rights and freedoms cannot be suspended, yet this is clearly being done. As for PMJT exercising “patience and forbearance” … No, the proper response would have been to sit down and talk to these citizens who travelled to Ottawa with valid and pressing complaints to peacefully petition their government. They need to be heard. For Trudeau’s government to respond by calling Emergency Measures is every bit as shameful and counterproductive as the Kiev authorities’ refusal to hold talks with the citizens of the breakaway republics of the Donbass.
Amen to that.
Listening to @abcnews broadcast tonight the situation in the LDNR is being reported as: an emergency evacuation of civilians, and the explosion of a car bomb, are being staged in order to provide a justification for a pre-planned Russian invasion. Russian forces near the border already have logistics and medical supply in place for an assault.
Link to report: https://abcnews.go.com/International/video/separatist-ordered-evacuations-ukraine-raise-tensions-82991215
This appeared. Yeah, they’re harassing and probing the contact line.
Isn’t this one of the videos that was alleged to be faked because its metadata showed it was actually filmed days or weeks before it was released?
Document confirms US told Russia NATO won’t expand
“Putin was right, Stoltenberg was wrong: NATO “brazenly deceived” Russia about expansion and a British document proves it”
Russia drops this document in the west’s lap right as ethnic Russian evacuations take place in Ukraine. Not a good look for the west.
Martin Armstrong has up an interesting piece of historical data and an interesting map
Donetsk intel managed to snatch the masterplan for the upcoming US-ordered Kiev blitzkrieg.
Donetsk’s Basurin says their main goal is to “cleanse” Donbass from Russian speakers – that is, those who have not been evacuated.
And to reach the Russian border in 2 days max.
Ukraine breakaway republic area with RT crew on ground gets shelled
Small town outside Donetsk got under fire as RT Arabic was covering the events
I spoke with a woman in Donesk she said many people in Ukraine have no idea there is war going on in Donesk, they were kept ignorant of whats really happening. She said ”I live here and I know there is war here”.
CNN reporting today 2/19 that LDNR videos posted 2/18 showing evacuation footage were ore-recorded two days before (2/16). Implication is evacuations are faked/staged as part of a ‘false flag.’
Presently this is on CNN’s live update thread:
Zadržený ukrajinský agent uvedl, jak byly na Donbas dopraveny zbraně
Orgány DLR ve čtvrtek zadržely ukrajinského zpravodajského agenta, který se podílel na organizaci výbuchu auta náčelníka Lidové milice DLR Denise Sinenkova, uvádí První kanál.
Ukrajinský agent odhalil plán, podle kterého ukrajinské úřady pašovaly zbraně a výbušniny na Donbas. Muž promluvil o plánech Kyjeva na násilné dobytí Donbasu – ukrajinská armáda podle něj hodlá využít veškerou údernou sílu a plánuje masivní ostřelování Doněcka.
Uvedl také, že nedávno ukrajinská armáda nelegálně vstoupila na území Běloruska, aby prozkoumala oblast cvičení s Ruskem.
A detained Ukrainian agent stated how weapons were transported to Donbas
The DLR authorities detained a Ukrainian intelligence agent on Thursday, who was involved in the organization of the explosion of the car of the People’s Militia DLR Denis Sinenkov, reports the First Channel.
A Ukrainian agent has revealed a plan by which Ukrainian authorities smuggled weapons and explosives into the Donbas. The man spoke about Kiev’s plans for the forcible conquest of Donbas – according to him, the Ukrainian army intends to use all the striking force and is planning a massive shelling of Donetsk.
He also said that the Ukrainian army had recently entered Belarus illegally to investigate the exercise with Russia.
Two artillery shells hit Russian territory, Moscow claims
I think this situation should have come up earlier. It will lead to a better equilibrium. Both anglosaxons and Russia knew North Stream would never pump a single cubic meter of gas. The empire just let its complexion as a form of humiliation. The real loser here is occupied Germany and vassal Europe whose economies are being destroyed by the anglosaxons. They will more and more look like a sort of zombie, hitech, robotic, emasculated Japan. Putin knows too well the empire will never fulfill its commitments. All the meetings have just been a PR operation. So be it. Other countries have been suffering the empire’s siege for much longer. Look at Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, Noth Korea, Nicaragua. Not to mention devastated Irak, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan. And they are still standing. At worst, this will lead to a couple of years of Russian slander and isolation. Meanwhile, Europe while collapse, the USA deep state will implode, lying clowns like Johnson and Biden will not be in office, and Russia and China will patiently keep on building and growing. The empire needs war to gain time before it collapses. Russia needs to avoid war to keep on growing. But Russia will need some kind of real kinetic action to face this challenge. The procastination policy of Putin is just not possible anymore.
The U.S. and its vassals are weak. Take Ukraine back and what does the U.S. and the EU do about it? Exterminate all Ukronazi. After all Kievan Rus (Ukraine) is mother country for all Russians and Ukrainians. I second emote what Paul Craig Robert wrote in his blog: “Russia has overwhelming military superiority in Europe. The Kremlin does not need any agreements and could not trust them if it had them. All the Kremlin needs to do is to state publicly that Russia would consider NATO membership for Ukraine a declaration of war and would take the necessary action to end the threat. Privately, the Kremlin needs to tell Poland and Romania that the American missile bases on their territory have to leave. Period. No discussion. It can be done as quietly and in as face-saving a manner as desired, but they do have to go.”