by Eric Zuesse for The Saker blog
For a few days, active Democrats were stunned by — and America’s political news-media were focusing heavily upon — this string of tweets from Democratic Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard:
Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a …
4:20 PM – Oct 18, 2019
Replying to @TulsiGabbard
… concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and …
4:20 PM – Oct 18, 2019
Replying to @TulsiGabbard
… powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.
It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.
4:20 PM – Oct 18, 2019
She was challenging there the top-down-imposed ‘historical’ narrative of her own Party (‘Russiagate’ included), regarding not only that Party’s latest Presidential nominee Clinton, but the Party’s entire leadership ever since at least 9/11 (along with the leadership of the Republican Party) and the resulting transformation of this nation into a permanent-warfare state, one invasion after another — what she has referred to, throughout her entire campaign, as “regime-change wars.”
It backfired against Gabbard.
There is no indication, in any of the polling since that happened, which shows that this attack against Clinton helped Gabbard’s campaign, and there is even one poll which seems to indicate that it instead sharply turned many Democratic Party voters, in the first of all of the contested states, Iowa, firmly and decisively against her.
On October 24th, was headlined from Iowa State University “Buttigieg jumps to second in Iowa State University/Civiqs poll”, reporting that, “The online poll of 598 likely caucus-goers also asked voters to list the candidate they do not want to win the nomination. Biden and Sanders topped this list. Peterson says Tulsi Gabbard was third, moving from nearly 7% in September to 17%.”
This poll was taken during October 18-22, which is precisely the period when the suddenly now-personal war between Gabbard and Clinton, about the goodness or badness of post-9/11 permanent-warfare America, was the focus of this nation’s political news. A full 10% of Iowa’s registered and active Democrats (17%-7%) had suddenly switched to placing Gabbard onto their “DO NOT want to be the nominee” list. And the percentage who were saying that they were intending to vote for her declined down 67%, to 2%, from its previous 6%. So: she had lost two-thirds of her Party’s voters, while she had more than doubled (17/7) the number of Democratic Party voters who are outright hostile against her. That’s a stunning change since their September poll.
Gabbard has been interviewed hostilely on Democratic Party ‘news’-media (because she has been challenging her Party’s neoconservatism), but supportively interviewed on Republican Party ‘news’-media (as if that Party weren’t actually just as neocon as the Democratic Party), and she has consistently said that she will not run as a third-party candidate even if one of her Party’s neocons (such as Biden, Buttigieg, or Warren) wins its nomination. But candidates have said this sort of thing before and subsequently reversed their position on the matter, and she might do that; so, she still remains a factor to consider in the 2020 contest.
Right now, Republican ‘news’-media, such as Fox News, are continuing to give her air-time, such as Fox’s Hannity did on October 24th, in a good summary-presentation of the Clinton-Gabbard conflict about the future of the Democratic Party regarding international relations, which was titled “Tulsi Gabbard: This is what’s so dangerous about Hillary Clinton”.
Apparently, Gabbard’s strategy now is to continue to present to voters, both in the Democratic and in the Republican Parties as well as to independents, her vision of the type of country that America ought to be (not the type of country — for example — that invaded Iraq on the basis of lies in 2003); and, if she becomes rejected by her own Democratic Party, then, at that time, she might be able, with her now-established name-recognition and clearly articulated policy-views, to become the Green Party’s 2020 candidate and to present an appeal designed in order to draw enough independents, plus both Democrats and Republicans who have come to reject their former Parties, so as to stand a realistic chance of winning in 2020, in essentially the same way that Abraham Lincoln did in 1860, when the Republican Party replaced the previous Whig Party. If the Democratic Party nominates Bernie Sanders, then she wouldn’t do that, but, otherwise, she might. Consequently, any intelligent Democrat whose main concern is to win the Presidency in 2020 (so as to have a Democrat as President starting in 2021) will be voting for Sanders, because, otherwise, Tulsi Gabbard could well throw a monkey wrench into the Presidential campaign machinery for both of the existing Parties — and that might produce a replacement of the Democratic Party by the Green Party, in the same way that the Republicans replaced the Whigs in 1860. It could happen again — but this time to the Democratic Party.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.
She should go independent immediately. That way she can really tear the democrats up and carve off a bit of the republicans too.
She should have gone as an independent from the very start. However, she decided to go as a candidate of the Democratic Party, ostensibly trying to reverse foreign policy mistakes of her predecessors, namely the Deep State. Strange. Did she really think that she could go alone against the Deep State ? Does she really want to, bearing in mind she used to be a member of the Council on Foreign Relations ?
As I have written before, my personal impression is that she was planned as a replacement for Hillary Clinton. I still think so. However, it would appear that during the past week or so there have been second thoughts about Tulsi replacing Hillary. It would appear that Hillary is again being planned as a candidate for the next election. If true, then a very interesting, and potentially dangerous situation is going to develop, especially if Trump wins again.
Only problem here is that its already been proven that polling simply doesn’t matter. It seems today’s elections are won with the bank account, the one that is monitored of and by the press, for they are the recipient of last resort and have the most to lose if, advertizing didn’t matter, and the actual issues did.
Polls are not to be trusted for far to many/most only express the wishers of the takers, and most of those have their own agenda which is the agenda of the 1% ,Reagan proved that during his stay in the oval office and the monkeys were quick to learn that polls are the way to rich’s.So vote the way you wish to forget the so called parties for they don’t have your interest at heart,so don’t cop out by saying I voted for the lessor of the two evils even thou you know both are evil.!!!
Eric – Given that the media that the Iowa Democratic voters are exposed to and its constant hostility to Gabbard and its subtle undermining her at every turn, how could it have turned out any differently? Gabbard had to respond to Clinton’s smear, did she not? Obviously the capitalist system has got people like her in a damned if they do and damned if they don’t position. These pigs are very experienced at neutralizing opposition to their power. And they have enormous resources with which to achieve that end. As i see it the system is still too stable to allow much in the way of fresh revolutionary air through the cracks yet. Nevertheless it seems to me that the winds of time are flowing with people like Sanders and Tulsi.
Sorry, I’m not seeing any of those “winds.” Wish I did.
Then why did you write this?
“Tulsi Gabbard could well throw a monkey wrench into the Presidential campaign machinery for both of the existing Parties — and that might produce a replacement of the Democratic Party by the Green Party, in the same way that the Republicans replaced the Whigs in 1860. It could happen again — but this time to the Democratic Party.”
Tulsi is still young and needs to plan for a long-term political future for herself. Bernie isn’t and doesn’t. He is freer. As I indicate in the article just posted here today (October 27), Sanders would be better for a third-party run in 2020 than she would be. When I said “I’m not seeing any of those ‘winds'” I was referring to Tulsi 2020. But I believe that if Bernie runs independent in 2020 (and Tulsi doesn’t), Bernie would likely win, and this would be an Abraham Lincoln 1860 event. (Of course, that progressive party was killed by John Wilkes Booth’s bullet.) If Bernie doesn’t run either Democratic or independent, then Tulsi will need to run independent. That would end her career as a Democrat. But maybe even she could win in 2020 as an independent; and, if she doesn’t, she still could win in 2024 (if the world is still around then). In the interim, she could become a TV icon. Her presentation-skills on political issues beat anyone else’s that I have ever seen — ever. She is awesomely formidable in any debate-situation. But in the short term, the neocon grip around America’s throat is strangulatingly tight. I expect her to come back in 2024, as a Democrat, unless Bernie is President as a Green — in which case she will probably then become his VP running-mate in that year. That’s when the neocons’ throats could get slit, and everyone else finally become enabled to breathe free. But the distance between the current tyranny and any such democracy is enormous, and I really am not expecting it to be bridged. But I hope to be surprised and proven wrong on that.
A 3 way split in the POTUS elections is difficult – and results in unwanted results like Perot in 1992 where Bush should have won. The electoral college system makes it hard. I doubt Bernie could win as an independent because Trump still has a large chunk of support whilst Hillary and her proxies have much less. It is a known fact Govt’s, Politicians & Party’s lose elections, not win them – the DEMS lost in 2016 because Americans wanted a different direction, not more of the same.
The key question is what will they want next year ? A U-turn to the past – or steady as she goes with Trumpet – or something new from Bernie or Tulsi ? Flip a 3 sided coin. But youre right Tulsi needs to look to 2024. Election data I have based on a forecasting method I know that works say the Republicans should win the 2020 election (candidate unknown) and possibly the following 1 or 2 elections.
Tulsi should stick in for even 2028 & 2032 or even try to establish a new party in the Senate & House. The GOP would have extreme difficulty if Trump was not made the next candidate – as few others have the stature or charisma – eg just look how well guys like McCain & Romney did, let alone Jeb and other hopefuls. I suspect elite elements of the GOP may be grooming Ryan or Cruz for 2020 but them up against Hillary and Bernie will be difficult. DEMS are divided and that will not get them into office. Their best choice possibly is to have Tulsi with Bernie as VP or a binding agreement whereby they alternate the positions each year – after all its the VP who has the time to get a lot of the policy & deals in Congress done etc…..
Also in order to win the DEMS also need to win over swinging voters who voted Republican and only Tulsi has the capacity to do that. 2020 will also depend on how much vote rigging the DEMS do and how the swing voter view things. The shift to Trump in 2016 means the voters wanted change and they will be reluctant to go back to the same failed agenda – this is why Tulsi & Bernie are the best choices.
If 2020 ends up between Trump / Ryan or Cruz vs Hillary then Trump/Ryan/Cruz would win as Bernie and others will bleed votes.
Trump vs Bernie would also probably result in a Trump win because Hillary people wouldnt support him.
Trump vs Tulsi would be a cliffhanger.
Trump vs Warren/Biden etc would be a Trump win.
If its Ryan or Cruz vs Warren/Biden etc… Ryan/Cruz would probably win.
If its Ryan or Cruz vs Tulsi & Bernie as Dems/Independent, Tulsi-Bernie would win.
If its Ryan or Cruz vs Bernie alone as a Dem/Independent, Ryan/Cruz would probably win.
If its Ryan or Cruz vs Tulsi alone as a Dem/Independent, would be a cliffhanger.
In order to beat Trump the DEMS need new candidates and a duo team – not a one man band.
Hillary also will probably only run if Trump is the opponent in 2020.
Tulsi I suspect will not run under the Greens banner nor would Stein or the party hacks want her there. Tulsi’s there to reform the DEMS and she know most DEM rank and file want the Clinton cancer out. Whatever happens the DEMS will have difficulty but it all depends on who is the candidate for both sides.
You, Eric, are the wind. Or shall we say the breeze before the storm.
The winds are beginning to get up, with a fetch extending back centuries and millennia. Anthropogenic climate destabilisation and the ecological collapse-there’s a real hurricano coming to get us. Economic implosion under inequality, debt and insatiable ruling class parasitism-a tornado, Force Five. Social explosions everywhere, which will be met, if they look like threatening elite rule, by furies of violence and tempests of repression-Chile 1973, Indonesia 1965 or Palestine since 1947, globalised.
Just at the moment the brainwashing apparatus here in Austfailia, led by the Howardised and Murdochised ABC, is simply crammed full of anti-communist agit-prop. Story after story assailing the CCP, and Western goons posing, as Pence ludicrously did, as the Chinese people’s true friends. And a series on the ABC, delivered by a Yankee academic from Brisbane (the country is being taken over by Yankee expatriates, all proudly keeping their ‘Exceptional’ accents intact)which paints the Cold War as a battle between Evil and Western good. It look to me as if the parasites are getting The Fear again, the fear of the spectre of communism, like Banquo’s ghost at their banquet of the vanities.
Nicely said, sir. I was dismayed to see the chinless wonder, Matt Bevan, being given air time on the ABC News app – his misinformed comments being straight from the DNC Book of Russaphobia. Another quasi-intellectual lapping up their 15 minutes of fame without a concern as to how defamatory, specious and outright dangerous thier comments are…on the upside, it would appear that the average beer swilling, wife beating, sociopath Australian is beginning to understand the inherent dangers of Pax Americana – perfectly illustrated in the late Malcolm Fraser’s excellent book – Dangerous Allies. This particular tome should be part of the Australian high school history curriculum.
My God, Malcolm looks like Gandhi compared to the scum who have succeeded him, in his Party and Labor, in the years since he was PM. What a strange and wonderful transmutation was his.
Dead right Mulga on that point – and all it will take is a AU recession to oust the vermin. Of course tho Malcolm was a dismal failure – what did he do that is noteworthy in his 7 years to 1983 other than put the country into the deepest recession since the 1930s ? He became a red in the end just like his mate Gorton.
But in the US a ray of sunshine and hope exists in the form of TULSI. She is far more appealing to DEMS than the failed 2016 candidate Hillary or her proxies. She has the message and the charisma. She’s a winner and will go far.
Almost predictable Eric. And depressing. It yet again shows how completely brainwashed many Americans are, how ethically and morally bankrupt the Democratic Party is, and how many jingoistically fawn over the military as ‘heroes’.
I don’t think you could get a more brainwashed nation, tho Australians must rank as a pretty close second. Your article also shows the hold the vile Anglo Zionist presstitutes have over the general populace.
Clinton and her ilk have caused mass suffering and death right across the Planet thru their rapacious war mongering and Imperialism, yet her reputation is protected by the vermin masquerading as ‘journalists’.
I cant think of a more pointless thing to waste time on than to care about polling or elections in a nation of sheep, ruled by wolves, owned by pigs. The system of sheep giving their power away to parasites by voting at the ballet box and consenting to be ruled cannot be altered by joining them. Take your power back and vote every second with your thoughts and actions. Antiwar presidential candidates play the same role as all politicians in the political theater, figureheads whose job is not to wield power but to distract from it.
Ciclismo: “in a nation of sheep, ruled by wolves, owned by pigs”…. Sounds a lot like Animal Farm. I havn’t voted for over 20 years. It took me a while to wake up and open my eyes to the whole charade. “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal” Emma Goldman.
‘…policed by wolves, ruled and owned by swine’, seems better to me. A bit rough on sheep, too.
“in a nation of sheep, ruled by wolves, owned by pigs.”
US, Germany, UK, Russia, France, Brazil, China, Canada, Egypt, Thailand, Morocco, Romania, Argentina, etc,etc,etc
Who cares if it helped her, it needed to be said
The bottom line is this: most Americans simply do *not* want to wake up from the Matrix.
It would involve fundamentally questioning whether America really is the Force for Good, Land of the Free, Beacon of Liberty, Indispensable Nation, Exceptional People, and Leader of the supposed Free World that most proud Amuricans and indeed many equally brainwashed non-Amuricans have been taught to believe since childhood.
To undergo this process of questioning and self-examination would lead one to become a heretic against the messianic religion of Americanism itself–and thus a Thought Criminal of the highest order.
As Ron Paul once said, Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies.
We the Sheeple of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Empire, establish injustice, insure domestic passivity, provide for the common offence, promote the corporate Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Lies to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Con-stitution for the United Empire of
Did you write that “We the Sheeple of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Empire …”? It’s terrific bitter parody of our great Constitution, turning the original on its head, masterfully. It’s so perfect. Who wrote it?
I”m guessing PCR
Tulsi has no plans to run in the GP. Jimmy Dore has a video today of Tulsi being interviewed by a vicious witch on CBS who asks a series of hostile questions with a look of uncontrolled rage in her facial expression. These MSM clowns are going to continue to do these hit-piece interviews in which Tulsi makes them look stupid which will help her. Bernie is actually the front-runner and Biden has one foot in Assisted Living and may have both feet in by next June so he won’t be the nominee. Tulsi will shred him in next years debates which are the ones that count. Hitlary can’t run. she has a colostomy or Cystostomy and can’t get thru a debate without emptying it and Tulsi will shred her and Biden in the first one. The deadline to declare is Nov 2nd. Hitlary and Pocahontas don’t have the ability to tell the Truth about anything and Tulsi will shred both of them before they even know what hit them.
If only Jimmy Dore would get rid of his embarrassingly unfunny peanut gallery his show would be so much better and so much more “translatable.” That is, I hesitate to send links of Jimmy’s shows, although I think his comments and material are terrific, because the peanut gallery (four characters who keep chiming in with dumbed-down, adolescent-level humor that end up dumbing down the whole show) degrades the quality. People who are already having a hard time accepting some of Jimmy’s messages are sure not going to take him—rather, his message—seriously with these jokers hogging the screen. Jimmy is really funny. but these other folk, not so much.
Jimmy, these characters add **nothing** to your show and just waste time. Please consider ditching this format and carry on on your own.
I wouldn’t put much credibility in these polls. We don’t know how the wanted end result was factored into the questions and selection of participants. Polling has become a very manipulated part of zionazi-gay psywar.
Besides, iowa isn’t exactly the sort of state one would expect antiwar type sentiment exists much. I suspect that with this insurgency, iowans probably are not in favour of antiwar sentiment:
Personally, I think Gabbard messed up going after clinton personally, instead of the policies clintons zionazi-nazi masters’ are pursuing, with clinton being merely one of their gofers. I think this was intentional on Gabbard’s part, or rather her handlers. It transfers the problem to the clinton brand. If clinton is vanquished, well problem solved. No more “bad” wars, we can label them “good” wars, like WW2.
As for the Green Party, or any other 3rd party ousting the demicans in 2020, this is nonsense. The media, and very finely tuned psywar, determine election results in the usa (backed up by diebold, and other forms of more direct corruption, of course), 3rd party candidates don’t get past a few percentage points if they are not perot parots.
Look at the expression of unhinged hatred on this MSM shill’s face. It gives you an idea of what the MSM opinion about her is.
One poll with less than 1000 participants in a very limited demographic leads you to conclude this and write an entire article about it? Come on.
Gabbard gained more than she lost with this response, I guarantee it. Whoever goes against Clinton AND US foreign policy has a much higher chance of getting republican voters on their side. Most people are not as set in their ways as it may seem. Plus people underestimate the popularity of Bernie Sanders and his policies on both sides. Medicate for all, in spite of all the ridiculous fear mongering and flat out lies on virtually every single news channel there is, over 50% of republican voters are for it. Gabbard has a very similar domestic agenda with a much superior foreign one. Not to mention she is a currently still serving soldier.
Gabbard, who I do have many gripes with, including her voting for anti – Russian measures like sanctions and her disappointing stance on the whole meddling claim, at least the stance she held when the first accusations started flying almost 3 years ago. She is still the best candidate we can hope for in this pathetic circus of a political landscape. If by some miracle she does win the nomination, she would wipe the floor with draft-dodge-Donny.
You’re quite right IMO. The PTB know only too well to keep her as far away from TV as possible If they can help it. She destroys anyone in a straight out duel on television. It would be like playing basketball one on one with Michael Jordan in his prime. I respect Eric though, so I’m perplexed .
That is assuming that the poll is not outright fraudulent.
Serg, “pathetic circus of a political landscape” is exactly the right words.
Same in Europe, UK, Canada & Australia. Its seems only Russia and Eastern Europe have got their political stance & act together properly.
But the DEM powerbrokers will not let her (Tulsi) be the nominee unless they realize both her and Bernie will wreck the chances of other candidates. Its a pity that Gerry Brown doesnt re-enter the scene to assist Tulsi as he should have been the 1992 candidate but the Clinton corrupt money machine stopped him. Remember that those powerbrokers in 2008 favored Blackie over Hilly at the nod of Ted Kennedy. The JFK clan still has influence and they could and probably will give an outsider a nod like in 2008. Nothing is impossible.
Because its no longer now left verse right in party politics, but nationalist verses globalist (thanks to the Clintons and Bushs) its difficult.
When Govts fail to deliver the people will remove them, even its its the 2 party state to be replaced by a new movement.
Hillary Diane Rodham will be the 2020 Democrat presidential candidate. End of discussion.
In case no one noticed, any viable candidate besides kankles is being systematically destroyed. Sanders had a ‘heart event’. Gabbard was called out and told what she is. Biden is Biden, ‘plagiarism Joe’. It’s a done deal behind closed doors. With her ability to subvert and her minions working night and day to ‘improve’ the election process, President Trump has a very good chance of losing.
This is going to be one ugly election.
I disagree. I think Hillary knows full well that the hand of God which threw her last time will act again if she even dares to think about it. Most likely, it’s going to be either Warren or Biden.
Hitlery runs on pure evil. She is an evil incarnate that will, if allowed, destroy the planet. She won’t hesitate to escalate all the way to the nuclear exchange and beyond it. There is something in obsessed women that is scary.
hag 1 (hăg)
1. Offensive An old woman considered to be ugly or frightening.
a. A witch; a sorceress.
b. Obsolete A female demon.
3. A hagfish.
Dictionary definitions 1 and both 2a and 2b are good fits. Take your pick.
3 is not far off either:
Neither should one neglect ‘harridan’ (ˈhɑr ɪ dn)
a scolding, vicious woman; hag; shrew.
Harpie, maenad, banshee, feminazi-Hillary is them all. She does not impress me as in any way ‘female’, however. She reminds me of Lady Macbeth-
‘Come you spirits That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here. And fill me from the crown to the toe top-full Of direst cruelty. Make thick my blood Stop up the access and passage to remorse That no compunctious visitings of nature Shake my fell purpose…’. In other words, ‘We came, we saw-he died’!! Cackle, cackle, cackle.
Banshee ? They are messengers from heaven.
Witch from Hell is a better description.
Im convinced she’s mad actually – who in their right mind would run for POTUS when they are terminally sick with parkinsons (bug eyed most of the time requiring a gurney to be treated and sedated) and think they could handle the responsibilities and discretion that job entails ? Would anyone give nuclear weapons codes to a person who should in a hospital ?
She and others should be banned from running or holding office and Trump ought to issue an executive order to that effect.
What needs to be understood is that Hillary was not originally evil. We are all born with innocence. It was the Power that corrupted her. Power, when it is not balanced appropriately with wisdom, compassion, and love, corrupts the soul of the user. And that is a major reason why things are so bad today. The vast majority of those who hold power in this world do not have the least bit of wisdom, compassion, or love for anyone other than themselves.
The end of discussion camp falls into denial quicker than all the other campers on the campaign trail. I shall remind you of this once she does not run and you are out of destructive ideas.
I spoke my opinion in a bit of a rhetorical manner. I do think all the signs are she will run and if she does, she’s dangerous. If she doesn’t run, she’s still dangerous. Election night she reminded me right muchly of Timoshenko when Yanukovich won in orcland. The Yellow Hair did everything but publicly say ‘I bought the election, it’s mine!!’ when it dawned on her that she lost. But then, elections in Kiev are much more corrupt than in USA. Aren’t they?
By all means, if she indeed does not run please feel free to tell me I was wrong, numerous times if needs be.
Ok, this can be very easily done.
Hillary will probably only run if Trump is the opponent.
If its a globalist GOP candidate she may not.
George Soros Names ‘Most Qualified’ Democrat to Run for White House
“Billionaire investor George Soros believes Elizabeth Warren is the best Democrat out there who can take on Donald Trump in next year’s election.”
I think this is a hint… ;-)
Why not? Warren is a political opportunist, if you really look at her career she’s ‘one of them’. She’ll buckle down under the neocons and do what she’s told to do just like that beacon of peace and hope Obama did. There are so many internal contradictions within the power structures, the MIC, NSA, CIA they want someone to leave them to it, duke it out until a deal is made and the place carved up. Warren won’t know what has hit her, she’ll be left to make ‘meaningful’ speeches and promise the undeliverable whilst foreign policy is left to the warmongers who are still foaming at the mouth after being completely out manoeuvred by the Russians and (to a lesser extent) the Chinese. The wake up call that the US has been sent still doesn’t seem to have done the job, so we can expect more folly and failure before the numb nuts finally realise the exceptional moment has passed them by.
Yep – but Soros didnt get his way in 2016.
Warren is not a match for Trump or Ryan or Cruz.
I predict at this time a Republican win for 2020 regardless of candidate.
That may also be a backlash to Dems in the House and at State level.
But Tulsi may have chance in 2024.
Tom Luongo in his 2nd half of utube
talks about the USSA politics
and somewhere in there drops how HRC could win by surprise – a trickster way to POT.US
and DJT-4D-Chess revealed!
HRC dont have to walk and she may not even can walk
All that is needed is she is stringed up (the way she like it and the more the better)
HRC cares not about anything but having it all the time of her life
and they gladly gave it to her…
Your enemy is not HRC. Your enemy is ‘THEM’.
You dont win by defeating HRC. You win by re-starting a new republic.
Hitlery has no chance to become president, no way, not against Trump, not against anybody else, why? Because she has too many skeletons hidden, her un-matched corruption, her warmongering background, her pedo husband, just to name a few.. If the dems still choose to go with her (or Biden) then they aim to be defeated.
The list you put up on “Hitlery has no chance to become president, no way, not against Trump, not against anybody else” is —>EXACTLY<— what 'THEY' are looking for to qualify for POT.US
and they have more money than you
they have more power than you
they have more military/police resource than you
they think they own you and they own you (eg they can deny you food and water by cutting off the supply what can you do to them?)
How is that they do not 'run' the (S)election?
On one hand you despise "them" the assigned 'enemy' as per their script…
and one the other hand you beg for a saviour – a free one and can give you anything you want and all you have to do is VOTE, that simple and that easy – the all powerful fix-all VOTE.
Yet you can neither attain both, which is your current reality – and how you lost the republic, honestly.
You can neither get rid of 'THEM'
and you keep getting trapped deeper and deeper into the 'NEXT SAVIOR' they tell you you deserve it all and will DTS or whatever slogan/chants…
and you have learned nothing (it seems)
and you refused to face the darkness (yours and theirs)
So why can HRC be POT.US next? You inadvertently has already VOTED for her… by giving such cute name “Hitlery”. You have fallen into their mind-game and you don't even know. Dark emotions runs high! How do you not get dark clouds over the land?!
“So why can HRC be POT.US next? ”
Anything is possible, but I think she is way past her sell-by date.
The public has seen too much of her, heard too many rumors.
She has too much baggage. Her personal baggage, plus now her husband’s.
Some women voters might even wonder:
Now that we really know what a creep Bill is (Epstein on top of blue dress), why did Hillary put up with him?
To me the answer is clear: naked ambition. Never cared about Bill’s pecker or his peccadillos.
Some women will not really like that image of her.
In sum, she is not a “fresh new face,” like Obama.
She is a known quantity, one that carries the stink of her previous unnec loss.
Even after scheming Sanders out of the race she couldn’t even win against Trump.
Her clueless campaign gave the world Trump.’
That is a hard one to live down, IMHO.
Of course, Nixon did win after losing.
But I don’t Hillary can succeed where Nixon managed to do so.
Sound mind to sound mind – yes you are right (I agree) with all the reasons you listed
but what I fear is that reason is not ‘good enough’ in their regime
I fear they will resort to blunt force this time should they not get their planned plan.
I dont think DJT can or is enought to stop them. The risk is great and terminal.
To win – I wont be surprise if they wheel her out, on a wheel chair, clearly half dead or dead, and tell the USSA public their POT.US is just having a nap… or now wired up to neuro-link or something like that. And we now move into the new human era or something like that.
I think they are crazy enough to do that. Those SOB crazy and arrogant.
To the sane, she is obviously damaged beyond repair.
To the insane, she is perfect zombie to be controlled.
I still know not what can save ‘THE PPL’ thats why I am not writing her off.
They dont seems to write her off their list either.
So I think its wise we heed and do not underestimate their ‘type’ and their ‘full potential’.
Pls do be safe, you, your family and your cultural group
Is there anything in US political life that is NOT ugly?
Yes it is as ugly as ugly can get,right now with the fighting and bickering going on in congress we are just about at the same point we were in 1859/1860, and we all know what came after that ,and we are walking down that same path again.It started back under the Bush administration with the two ravens perched on his shoulders,Rumsfeld attack on certain congressman who weren’t buying his lies on Iraq and only escalated under Obama and is now building up the head of steam under Trump.!!!!
hilary’s parkinsons will be too advanced to be in public by then.
The last election was pretty ugly too. The intent was to rig it in Hillary’s favor. It only partially succeeded, as the job was sloppily done, with voters noticing that their votes – cast on electronic voting machines – were being switched to Hillary. After that the rigging stopped, but not before some 5-10 million votes were bestowed to Hillary, which means she never won the popular vote.
If Hillary is elected as a candidate of the Democratic Party, then the election is indeed going to be very ugly indeed. Hillary will, of course, use “Russian meddling” to accuse Trump, and if Trump should win, then an even uglier situation could arise, as many Americans fell for the “Russian meddling” nonsense. We could see severe social and political disturbances.
I suspect Hillary could be a done deal but it will be a deal which would see her lose again.
What does she want to be seen historically as the one who lost TWO Presidential runs ???
What would the DEMS do after such a fiasco ? Party implosion.
How many Presidential candidates for party who failed have run a second time at the next election and won ?
Nixon is the only one who I can recall (1960 but he waited til 1968 for the second try). Not one Democrat the past 120 years.
She was a poor candidate last time plagued with health problems that havent got any better. The economy is good so Trump will beat her. Then theres the baggage and all the scandals still lingering – aka Epstein.
Savvy DEM powerbrokers like in 2008 (aka Obama got the ticket) will know that Hilly-Billy’s is not the road to recovery. She’s been asked to stay away and should take that advice and enjoy a retirement.
This is why Tulsi is the one to watch.
Man o man o man!
The Foxboro NFL Team may be an undefeated 7 and 0…..but never in my whole life have I seen so many Patriots and Arm Chair Quarterbacks fumbling the ball, throwing interceptions…..and running towards the wrong goal line.
It’s like one of those NFL film reels of Best Busted Plays of the Last 25 Seasons.
Y’all have been concentrating on the wrong battlefields, gridirons, playbooks and ……sportswriters.
Let’s start with this:
White Hats Are Coming For Flynn
As my Red-Pilled Sister put it in an email this morning:
“…..Sidney Powell (that’s General Flynn’s attorney, guys…) is kicking ass…. demanding.. and getting.. the exculpatory evidence in the case against Gen. Flynn that Weinstein/Mueller have hidden for so long…. pieces were ‘known’ but the actually evidence backing them up were withheld.. and contrary to the tone of this article, that judge has not only backed up Powell but also urged her to find out everything she can.. this not only builds the case for the judge in the case to vacant the charges.. but also provides damning additional evidence against the deep state ‘players’ involved.. additional lying under oath and tampering with evidence.. including conspiring to tamper with evidence and to falsely accuse… I’m sure Horowitz was already aware of this in his own investigations, but now they are public and there would be considerable outcry and besmirching of his own agenda if these details do not end up in his supposedly soon to be released report… seeing as they are direct evidence of the wide spread agenda to take down the POTUS.. treason and sedition…”
O ye, of Little Faith.
I don’t have the time to answer every egregious error of judgment and singlehandedly counter the rampant fatalism and pessimism among most of you here……but I will let Dave give y’all a few clues as to what’s “goin’ down” in the last 24 hours.
And it in no way, shape or form is it any “Springtime for Hitlery”.
The Demonic One is desperately trying to save her own life (from death by hanging …or life without parole) by warning y’all that “The Russians” (who else could be so dastardly!) are preparing “Deep Fake” videos of her
“doing made up horrendous things”.
The things that reportedly made 2 NYPD detectives investigating Anthony Weiner’s laptop……weep.
Reportedly video of Hillary and Huma in some sort of drugged cackling frenzy under Epstein’s temple to Moloch or some other God-damned (literally, mind you) torture chamber skinning the face off a tortured young girl with razor sharp knives….alive…and then cavorting around exchanging the “mask” of bleeding skin on their own faces……before “sacrificing her”.
I have not seen said video, nor weeped over it…and I would not stake my own life on its existence, but given the seriousness and consistency of the reports out there…….nd what I know of the cackling “We came….we saw…..He Died!!! HAHAHAHAHA nature of the witch……….neither will I refuse to even consider such reports.
Everything…..EVERYTHING has to be proven in court, with admissible evidence. But guys, regarsless of the veracity of the Face Dance of Death………. I am of the solid conviction that that the Floodgates of Solid Court-Admissable Evidence……of Russiagate Treason….by the creators of the hoax….are finally opening.
And Dave…..in today’s X22 Report covers the wider implications, including the fact that the original tapes of the heinous reported face skinning (perhaps unknown to Hellary) are not editable digital recordings…….but analog.
See @ 7 minutes
Pain Coming, It Will Devastating For The [DS], Watch Those Who Scream The Loudest – Episode 2004b
51,513 views•Oct 25, 2019
Now I’m not an audio-video guy…but from what I gather ……analog or digital…..expert witnesses in that field ARE able to verify authenticity or find the tell tale signs of editing.
Tulsi will be fine. But the above is much “Yuger” than some poll of 1000 Iowan Pig Farmers…..in My Most Humble Opinion….that is.
This is not investment advice, do your own research before investing, yadayadayada
Maybe she’ll be Secretary of Defense in 2021.
Well, this is an interesting video.
I have never heard of X22 Dave or whoever.
His summary of the legal moves seems to be well done and coherent.
I am not enough of a wonk to be able to judge the details but all of the tweets shown support Dave’s narrative.
Although I dind’t think Clapper looked as though he was “freaking out.” Just not very commanding presence.
I am all for uncovering all of the sordid details surrounding the attempt to destroy or at least totally hogtie Trump.
As for “terrible things” that will be shown on a video, I am of coiures intensely curoius but at the same time not holding my breath. Too many potentially damning bits of evidence have disappeared in the framework of someone getting suicided (DC madam; Epstein; who’s next?).
However, when Dave starts to go on about Trump’s securing the oil in Syria, I start to wonder where Dave is coming from with his confidence in the virtue of “the patriots.” As far as I can see the US “guarding” of Syria’s oil is a vicious euphemism, if that is not an oxymoron. The USA has no right to be in Syria, period, has no right to Syria’s oil and wheat lands, has no right to occupy Syria’s richest food-producing region so that Syria cannot use its own natural resources, no right to steal the oil so as to make syria pay for the illegal American occupation; no right to (very likely) sell the oil to Israel; etc. etc.
I als odon’t know what to make of Dave’s inserting occasional “scripture-like” quotations of Q.
So, Bro, Dave himself is an unknown and certainly questionable quantity.
Hillary is just sad.
Corrupt, avaricious, conniving, psychopathic and insanely ambitious to be the first female president but ultimately just a sad tool of the war mongering military industrial complex and Israel. Obama is the same, substitute black for female and his partner was not being blackmailed by Israel.
You listen to polls? Were you alive in 2016? Apparently Hillary was supposed to set some milestone, crush Trump by twenty football fields full of voters, ‘according to polls.’ No one likes Pete Butiggg. Ask yourself this- who would support Pete that wouldn’t just vote for Biden, Warren, or Kamala instead? They’re essentially the same- the numbers make no sense, don’t correspond to everyday reality. It’s too easy to fix statistics, and goofy to jump to conclusions based on them. Who actually answers polls, anyhow? Two kinds of people- bribed activists, and bored old people.
It is not possible to serve the empire and serve the people at the same time. From within the imperial social construct, positive change is mathematically not posible. From outside the construct positive change is opposed by force. Quite the little trap for humanity.
On the bright side, the artificial social control structures and mechanisms that have been fabricated by the empire are only operative if (and when) the living connect and interact with them. If that connective interaction does not occur, the control structures and mechanisms are rendered inert and begin (or, begin to continue) the process of decomposition. The problem has always been negative intervention by the operators of the control system against individuals (and groups of individuals) who attempt to bring about this effect. The phrase ‘keep your gloves up’ applies.
For the ones who haven’t seen that interview with Tulsi, following the link of William H Warrick III MD above, I can highly recommend it, it made my day. It’s hilarious, also the public comments. The hatred was in the air (“what do you mean by regime change?” – and I thought Meghan McCain was a mental nutcase… ).
Tulsi will not be nominated, let’s be clear about that. However, I would not count too much on polls. The polls also predicted that Brexit wouldn’t win, and in 2016 the polls predicted a 98% chance of Hillary winning. On the MSM the cheering already started before the voting.
My daughter is my witness – I predicted almost 2 weeks before the 2016 election that Hillary would lose. I was looked at in total amazement. But you know what? Most polls are rigged, but no ‘journalist’ takes the effort to control the sample background, that has to be representative for the sampled population.
In the USA the distribution is very roughly 1/3 Rep, 1/3 Dem, and 1/3 neither. Take the effort to scroll a little bit further in the poll results, and check the background of the questioned people. In 2016 they had the nerve to take poll samples with 75% Dem background. In statistics this is called ‘oversampling’, if I had delivered such a paper in math class it would have been torn to pieces and thrown in the trash bin, but in the MSM they happily publish data juggling when it suits the agenda. There are far more examples of such cherry picking and no one seems to care.
Chances of Tulsi to reform a rotten party are slim, so are her chances to run as a third candidate – I doubt whether she can collect enough funding of that.
What have we left? Joe ‘Spongebrain’ Biden can hardly speak coherently – when not sniffing in childres hair, Pocahontas is a Sorosoid nutcase (industry is already protesting against her), Sanders is too old and has weird economical ideas for someone who has never earned a private paycheck in his life.
DNC decides, so we get Hilarious Clinton, assisted continually by her medical staff to reanimate her, and now and then sending a boudy double out to wave at people. And that would stand a chance against Trump?
Really, does this nation realize that they prosecute Assange and Snowden, but let this treacherous (Uranium one, anyone?), lying (every time she opens her mouth) witch walk free?
But okay, I expect in 2024 for the Dems Hunter Biden & Chelsea Clinton, and for the Reps Nikki Haley & Ivanka Trump. OMG.
There will be either new wine or there will be no wine. The new wine will not be placed in old wineskins. Sorry about the cryptic aphorisms
@ Ike: Hillary isn’t just sad; she’s Whitey Bulger
Yes, the reliance on polls is the problem with this article. We remember how badly the polls predicted 2016. The crucial element in this primary season and ultimately the election is the working class. It is, after all the working class in this country that put the dark horse candidate (Trump) in the White House. It was two issues: ending the wars and bringing home the jobs, that made their minds. Maybe the Medicare for all issue will substitute for the jobs issue but still, most of the US population want an end to these wars. My guess is that the DNC will not allow an anti-war candidate to be the nominee, so Trump will champion his albeit hackneyed and partial “end” to the regime change war in Syria and win re-election.
Tulsi running as a third Party Candidate will drain more votes away from Trump than it will Hillary. Yes, I’m saying Hillary because no later than November 8th she will announce her Candidacy for President. Hillary has been pulling the strings, behind the curtain of the DNC for the entire campaign.
What’s finally going to unite US voters is what has always united them – wars and identifying new enemies. This is the real reason for the international Deep State’s crusade against Agent Orange. When AO talked about making nice with Russia during his presidential campaign and then, after his taking office, he went to Singapore and Helsinki for “summits” with Kim and Mr. Putin, that international Deep State’s Coup against AO shifted into high gear.
Why do I say this? Because the US economy literally can not afford to let peace break out! VIP George Kennan explained exactly why just a few short years before the end of the Soviet Union.
“Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy.”
The situation Kennan described has grown infinitely worse during the last 30 years. For at least the last 18 years, China and Russia have been rising economic and military powers.
The very serious problem for the transnational US Elite is that USD hegemony is now being seriously challenged by those and other nations’ economies and their currencies and their weapons. Things are no longer going completely the Superpower US’s way. China’s economy is perhaps even now larger than that of the US.
To boil it all down, we are living in the competition of all tribal competitions and the outcome of this “contest” will determine the role of the US economy in the world, as well as the ultimate fate of the Fed’s hundreds of trillions, perhaps quadrillions of printed-out-of-thin-air USD.
The US’s imposition of all these tariffs and “sanctions” and wars are absolute proof of the transnational US Elite’s and their Deep State’s flailing desperation to do only one thing –maintain USD hegemony in order to prevent Kennan’s “unacceptable shock to the American economy”. These measures will ultimately fail and, therefore the only really important question that remains is whether the increasingly-desperate US Elite will “go gentle into that good night” and develop a peace-based economy ongoing, accelerating economic/political/social chaos, or will this insane Elite “false-flag” the rest of the world into a no-win nuclear shootout at the OK Corral? The US Secretary of the Interior’s recent threat to perhaps use the US navy to blockade Russian exports, the US ambassador to NATO’s recent threat to “take out” Russian missiles on Russian soil, and the US’s decision to pull out of the INF treaty indicate that the shoot-out is being seriously considered.
Therefore, the one and the only “issue” that can possibly unite a badly divided nation is not only the maintenance of Russia and China as enemies, but the intensification of the perception of these nations as enemies in the minds of the US bewildered herd of voters. Mr. Zuesse’s article seems to confirm this theory.
But just exacly why are pepetual war and warmongers so attractive to US voters? Google “governmentcontractswon”; go to that site and see that in 2017, “private” businesses in the state of Virgina (population 8.4 million) were awarded 61,576 contracts worth $43.1 billion and that there are 17,165 “private” DoD contractors in Virginia, and that from 2000 to 2017 “private” DoD contractors in Virginia were awarded over $683.5 billion for 619,034 contracts. Therefore, no majority of voters in Virginia is EVER, and I do mean EVER, going to vote for a candidate like Gabbard who might be promising to destroy Virginia’s war-based economy and destroy many good-paying jobs. They’re going to vote for warmongers!
Virginia is not alone in the war business. Check out what “private” DoD contractors in other states such as California receive annually. It’s mind boggling.
Therefore, the US will never, and I do mean never, be politically capable of changing it’s “foreign policy” unless and until, once again with feeling, Virginians (Americans) are given a detailed alternative to their present “war way” of making a living and no D or R candidate is spelling out such an alternative.
Again, IMO, we are going to see and intesification of the already-intense anti-Russian rhetoric which may lead to a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth anti-Russian candidate being elected president. Of course Mr. Putin will be watching what transpires in the US. What is he going to do if he sees a rabid anti-Russian elected president – say one who promises to force Russia and China to “come to heel” by the even-more-aggressive use of the US military power?
Americans’ choice is simple. Either somehow organize / design a peace-based economy, and that right soon, or suffer nuclear devastation.
No caps please ; mod
Think they have already chosen nuclear devastation in the mistaken belief there is a God stupid enough to think they are indispensable.
I mean, if you sit down and think about it, the concept of being divinely indispensable is just as ridiculous as a ‘chosen people!’ No God worth his or her salt would ever be so stupid, except in the deceived minds of a mentally ill nation, ever treat any people as being either ‘indispensable’ or ‘chosen’.
So it is the nuclear option then. One look at the land around Chernobyl tells us that minus mankind and its stupid nuclear capabilities, nature will thrive.
I diagree with this article completely. Yes, Tulsi pissed off a lot of the brainwashed sheep with her statements as well as all the morons who cowtow to establishment Democrat politics, and who can’t handle hearing the truth about Hillary. Why? Because they are sheep, plain and simple.
Tulsi did the right thing to speak the truth. It is always the right thing to speak the truth, *no matter* how many people you piss off or how it might hurt your polling.
All this has done is to show the people who actually matter that Tulsi really does have what it takes to stand up and fight for the truth.
Interesting observations. Clearly what worked for Abe could work for Tulsi because the US clearly needs a major shake up politically, otherwise the shake up will come from a major military defeat in either Asia or Northern Europe.
It would clearly be more constructive for the Democrats to be replaced by the Greens if Gabbard was leading it. Stein is a spent force.
Just as in the UK corruption rules along with divided loyalties. While Gabbard is correct that H Clinton is probably the most corrupt and amoral politician in the US, how is it that Gabbard is so clean? Apparently, as they say!
So does anyone know if Gabbard has been spotted dividing her loyalties at what is passed off for the Wailing Wall yet?
Even Putin has been photographed there along with Trump and Johnson!
Tulsi does not stand a chance. Bottom line…USA is a war monger nation and will stay that way until blood is spilt on their home soil.
Exactly. It could be said that Tulsi Gabbard is playing with fire as she riles up a wholly moronic populace. Not only that, but she also spews the reactionary garbage du jour about Russia, Ukraine, and Syria.
The US is a nation of militant parasites, yet total cowards. As soon as China and Russia are able to inflict real, tangible damage (as opposed to utter nonsense about election interference) in the US proper, the Pindos will collapse on the spot.
Just what is going to be the mechanism to spur this so called blood on U.S. soil? Its seems the rest of the world is tired of war and I have no doubts they have much better things to do that plot to invade the mainland.
Now if comes from with in citizen wise, well that’s a different story.
Gabbard is another side-kick, like Bernie Sanders to, eventually, herd Progressive America into voting for the pick of the Judeo-Zionist hidden heads of the Democratic party.
Democrats favor a gay candidate over an anti-war candidate. I’m shocked. Shocked, I say!
The polls and MSM are rigged. But more and more people are getting info from internet. Internet has 10-20 minute interviews where Major Gabbard’s logic ans rationality shows. The others are tv candifdates. They depend on advertising and making zingers, Usually pander to different groups. These days their pandering lies are picked up and uploaded to the net. The others will be revealed as liars and collapse. Enthusiastic volunteers spreading info on the net can be more effective than TV as Buys. Trump was out spent 2-1 yet won. Tulsi will win thru.
You are quite simply wrong In your assessment because:
1. Polls are meaningless
2 Most Americans have stopped speaking politics to each other
3. It is way too early in the game to
Call it since we are not even at the
4. That from Tulsi was not a Hail Mary -/it was a “kick *ss and take names” reply to Killery throwing shade
5. If there is a concerted effort to exclude non citizens from the voting booths then Hillary or her proxy will not be able to claim the so called popular vote.
6. False historical analogies (pre civil war circa 1860) do your argument no favors
The DNC Bosses will run dead, and let Trump win, rather than let a real reformer win the nomination. But there’s no danger of that, because no-one gets nominated or runs for the prize without being thoroughly vetted by the country’s real rulers, the rich. Some can run as reformers, like Obama, but that’s just a con-trick, as his record shows.
BS…. Tulsi said exactly and.eloquently What.a.huge percentage feel….. As.a lover.of.polls, You.must.remember.the.ones.in 2016 that.said 60% did not like.Hillary.
Tulsi.was.spot on… She gained.a Lot.of.ground with.her accurate assessment of.the.problem with.US.politics!
Thats an source!
How is it possible to believe these polls?
When you think about the coverage Tulsi has in MSM (yes they call her names and smear her, but they dont ignore her and let her speak) she has plenty of coverage.
When she has been twice on Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, Rolling Stone, Rubin show and many other podcasts and Youtube shows, seen by millions…
She was known even before this presidential race.
Let alone the message, she has so much that appeals to army and veterans. She appeals to dems and reps etc. Charismatic and beautifull and articulate etc etc, she normally should be the winning candidate for dems.=).
She still is at 2%? Elisabeth warren or Kamala is more popular? No way these polls are right.
Remember what hte polls said about Trump?
Anyone who puts trust in American political polls is hopelessly lost in the jungle.
this Millenium report by The Armchair Political Analyst..a figure I do not know may not be taken seriously for that reason. I have no idea the reputation and quality of this reporter.
The polls are rigged Eric. She won the Drudge Report poll conclusively. Sure, Drudge has a different demographic of mainly Trump supporters, but she is the only Democratic Party candidate capable of wooing Trump supporters. It is still a long way to the election, Tulsi needs to stay on song, she speaks the truth and that will work in her favour – no matter what the DNC and fake news media throw at her.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-needs-be-stopped-shes-telling-people-truth-about-us-wars – this Finnian Cunningham article needs a major posting here on the Vineyard to balance Eric’s pessimism.
People always forget, the people do not elect the President. Never have and never will until the US Constitution is amended. If no one voted … guess what … a president is still elected. The Constitution says clearly that the Electoral College elects the president. Electoral appointees are not to vote as they state they come from vote. They are to do due diligence and elect the candidate that is best for the country. The public vote only gives the members of the electoral college a public feeling … thats it. The Electoral College does not have to vote the popular vote. So Tulsi can do whatever, The woman who thinks she has a god given right to be POTUS can do as she wishes. However come election day, if everyone stays home … a president is still elected. Want to send a message to the Banker/Corporate Party which both D and R belong to … vote for independent who does not get money from a bank or a corporation. However, the Electoral College will probably still put a Banker/Corporate candidate in office … under the table money influences easily.
Pity Tulsi, she born in the wrong country.
“If no one voted … guess what … a president is still elected.” and “ . . . come election day, if everyone stays home … a president is still elected.”
This is not correct. While it is true that no one in the US actually votes for presidential or vice-presidential candidates, the voters do vote for so-called “electors,” who are usually pledged to one candidate or another. Those electors make up the Electoral College, and their votes when assembled decide the winners of the presidential elections.
Therefor, if no one votes, no one gets elected.
We in India are fighting for the survival of our democratic republic and our civil liberties. They are in much greater threat from Modi and the fascist RSS (of which Modi has been a life-long office-bearer) than they are from Trump in USA. TRump has been unable to silence the media, but here in India, the crony-capitalist-controlled media simply blots out all news of what is happening to minorities incl Muslims/Dalits/ Tribals/ intellectuals and others.
In this background , we are puzzled at the favourable reaction to Tulsi Gabbard among progressives in the US. She is a pure demagogue who is funded partly by RSS affiliates in the US. She even justified the genocide in Gujarat in 2002 when Modi was chief Minister in that state. The link below is to a good Guardian” article about a recent meeting in Delhi of what Modi called “thought leaders” in Delhi organised by investment bankers J P Morgan:
Each of these “thought leaders” has his hands gory with blood of humans . Those who met in Delhi included Kissinger/Tony Blair/ Robert Gates/Modi. Mind you, Kissinger stimulated Pak Army’s genocidal crackdown on East Pakistan in 1971. East Pakistan became Bangladesh at that time after the INdo-Pak war of December1971. Modi keeps appealing to Hindu chauvinism and to islamophobic sentiments in India. Yet, millions were slain in East Pak including probably 1 million Hindus in 1971 by Pak Army, with ostentatious support of Kissinger. And today, Modi has no hesitation in grinning and greeting Kissinger and celebrates his meeting him in his tweets. Fact is that for all these fascist “leaders” , it is not Germans or Hindus that they care ,for but raw power is what they are after. And Tulsi is a worthy member of this club with her own islamophobia , her endorsement of Modi, and her following a very questionable Caucasian “Hindu”, a splinter from the Hare Krishna movement. (To us native Hindus in India, these caucasian ‘hindus”make no sense, because Hinduism is not about adhering to any particular beliefs. Even atheism and materialism , rejection of idea of soul (something vital in mainstream Hinduism) , all this is there in the Charvaka school of 2nd century BC.You do not cease to be a Hindu by following this particular school or any other school.Very different from the Abrahamic faiths.) And her preceptor, a certain Chris , a splinter-leader of Hare Krishna is vitriolically islamophobic like Tulsi herself.
No doubt the words Tulsi speaks about stopping war-making would appeal to progressives. But do question her on this Modi-lining she indulges in which should be totally unacceptable to any progressive. And she tried to turn the crowd against a questioner at a recent meeting when she was asked to declae the money she had git from RSS_affiliates in the US> (Incidentally, RSS set up in 1925 was openy appreciative of Hitler and modelled on Mussolini’s party in the thirties). So , please do not throw us in India under he bus for very dubious promises of Tulsi on ceasing war.
The Green Party? That would be a stupid move as the party is completely useless and never even come close to winning an election. Saying she would join the Green Party is poor analysis. A third party run would most likely be taken on as an Independent and strategically she would need to form an alliance with Ron Paul to get a base and momentum. Lastly, don’t believe anything you read in a poll, did we learn nothing from the last election? The only thing those numbers represent are the dying hopes of desperate democrats who think Hillary Will Rise Again To Beat Donald Trump. Their only hope is impeachment and they know it, that’s why all of a sudden the polls are showing “favor for impeachment.”
Seems like this article has been proven wrong by more recent polls in the last month. A YouGov poll now found her at 9 percent nationwide, in fourth place.
“any intelligent Democrat”. A rare species indeed.