Comment by Terry
That pretty much tells us who really shot it down, doesn’t it? But, lets look at a few of the actual facts that are not in dispute.
First off, context. Five months earlier a US orchestrated and backed coup led by fascist militias had violently overthrown the legally elected government of Ukraine and replaced it with a government of the far right which among other things, had passed a law banning the Russian language spoken by most people in eastern and southern Ukraine. A hastily called fake “election” in which the two parties which had won 60 percent of the vote in the overthrown parliament were not allowed on the ballot had “elected” Poroshenko as “President”, and he had promptly launched an assault on the local governments in eastern Ukraine. The local people in Donetsk and Luhansk provinces had formed self-defence militias to protect their mayors and local governments from arrest and/or murder by fascist militias from western Ukraine. The local government in Crimea held a referendum to leave Ukraine and rejoin Russia, which passed by over 96 percent. In April around 100 people protesting the coup in Odessa were burned alive and/or shot in a massacre led by fascist militias thugs. In May, protected by hastily formed local militias, the provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk held similar referendums to secede from Ukraine which also passed by over 90 percent.
The United States CIA took over the top two floors of the Ukrainian SBU Intelligence agency and assumed control of the SBU and the developing civil war. Near the end of June CIA Director John Brennan made a secret visit to Ukraine over a weekend.
At the end of June, Poroshenko announced an all-out WWII style assault on Donetsk and Luhansk provinces with tanks, heavy assault rockets, artillery, mobile guns, helicopters, and SU-25 ground assault aircraft. By mid July this assault was in full swing and Donetsk and Luhansk were being bombed and shelled daily by the Ukrainian Air Force. The militias defending Donetsk and Luhansk obtained shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles from Russia to defend themselves against the SU-25 ground attack bombers attacking their cities and defensive positions. These type of short range missiles have a maximum altitude of around 3000 metres, far below commercial jets at 10,000 metres, but sufficient to shoot down the SU-25’s and helicopter gunships attacking them near the ground.
On July 17th, 2014, in the midst of this violent offensive against the cities and provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk the air traffic controllers in Kiev diverted Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17 200 kilometres north from its usual route over the Sea of Azov and ordered it to overfly the centre of the war zone in eastern Ukraine. No reasonable explanation for this change of route has ever been provided by Ukraine. The Kiev Air Traffic Control tapes were seized by the Ukrainian SBU less than an hour after the shoot down and have never been seen since. Where are they? The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) didn’t ask that question.
The United States CIA had a hate on against Malaysia because they had hosted an International War Crimes Tribunal which had indicted George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and various other top American officials for invading Iraq (War of Aggression) and the many atrocities and crimes committed during the war. Although Malaysian Airlines had one of the best safety records in the business, in 2014 they lost three airliners in mysterious circumstances. CIA Payback?
Over several days prior to July 17th, as shown on Russian and European satellite photos, Ukraine had moved at least half a dozen BUK missile launchers into the area Flight MH-17 was now directed to fly over. The militias of Donetsk and Luhansk had no aircraft. What was the reason for Ukraine moving BUK launchers into this area? After July 17th they were removed, so apparently it wasn’t any concern about the Russian Air Force coming to the defence of Donetsk and Luhansk. The JIT didn’t ask that question.
There is a precedent of a Ukrainian missile shooting down a civilian airliner and then denying it. On October 4, 2001, a Ukrainian missile battery in Crimea shot down a Siberia Airlines TU-154 en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk over the Black Sea, killing all aboard. Ukraine denied having shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 for weeks, but eventually admitted to it, claiming it was a training accident, and paid $15 million to the victims families. The JIT report didn’t mention that.
Kiev has never provided its radar tapes to the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), claiming none of its radars, either military or civilian air traffic control, were working in eastern Ukraine that day as they were all shut down for maintenance. Given that they had supposedly moved the BUK launchers into the area because they were worried about the Russian Air Force coming to the defence of Donetsk and Luhansk, it is hard to believe that they really had all their radars turned off in a war zone where their own planes were engaged in bombing. But, lets take them at their word. Why, if all their Air Traffic Control radars were turned off, making it impossible for their air traffic controllers to track the planes they were supposed to be guiding, would they re-route Flight MH17 into that area? The JIT didn’t ask that question.
Although the Ukrainian radars, both military and civilian, were supposedly all turned off for maintenance at the same time, the Russian radar was working. Russian civil Air Traffic Control was watching MH-17 which was just entering it’s range when it was hit and saw it descend and disappear. This radar would have seen a BUK missile if launched from the east, but not from the west, which was out of its range. It did not see any missile. The more powerful Russian military radar was also monitoring traffic in the war zone as Ukrainian SU-25s were actively bombing Donetsk and Luhansk at the time just over the border. It did not see any BUK missile fired from either direction, but did see a Ukrainian SU-25 following MH-17 about 5 kilometres behind it, which is well within the launch range of the R60 air-to-air missiles and Israeli Python missiles carried by some SU-25s. The Russians supplied this radar data to the JIT, but the JIT report didn’t mention it or ask the obvious question: what was a ground attack aircraft doing up at 10,000 metres following a civilian airliner immediately before it broke up and plunged to the ground?
The US had an Aegis class Cruiser in the Black Sea at the time. This type of warship specializes in long-range air defence and radar detection. They also had a spy satellite overhead at the time, and would normally have at least one electronic surveillance spy plane watching a war zone they were involved in. Secretary of State John Kerry immediately claimed they had all the data and watched the entire shoot down. But . . . five years after MH-17 was shot down they have not provided any of their radar, electronic eavesdropping, or satellite data to the JIT. Why not? The JIT report didn’t ask that question.
Following the shoot down, the Donetsk self-defence militias operating in the area started searching for the Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder. Within a couple of days they had recovered both, and turned them over to a team from Malaysian Airlines who came to Donetsk to recover them. Malaysia then foolishly turned them over to the Dutch JIT, who in turn handed them over to the British to recover the data. The British stated they were in good shape and had not been tampered with and that all data was recovered. To this day it has not been made public, and the JIT report does not say what was on either recorder. According to their Prime Minister, Malaysia has not been allowed to hear the pilots cockpit voice recording. Why not? Why is this secret?
After the shoot down, the Dutch set up a Joint investigation Team (JIT) with Australia, Belgium, and Ukraine, the chief suspect, but Malaysia was not allowed to participate. Each member, including Ukraine, has the right under a secret agreement to veto the release of any information deemed unfavourable to its interests. It is completely unprecedented for a so-called “investigation” to give the chief suspect the “right” to prevent the release of any information implicating them. That alone completely disqualifies any “findings” of this “investigation”. Members of the Dutch parliament attempted to get the terms of the JIT Agreement released, but it was deemed a “State Secret” by the Dutch government and has never been released.
The Ukrainian army repeatedly shelled the area of the crash for the following month, preventing the JIT investigators from accessing it and destroying evidence. The JIT report makes no mention of this obstruction by Kiev.
The Russian company which makes the BUK missile went to great lengths to set up a similar IL-86 aircraft cockpit on a scaffold and exploded a BUK missile in the exact position and angle the Dutch JIT claimed the missile would have approached from based on the shrapnel pattern. They invited the press and the JIT to observe the test, but the JIT refused to attend or review the results and see if the shrapnel from a BUK matched the damage on the reconstructed sections of MH-17’s fuselage. Why did the JIT refuse to send an observer? Are they trying to determine whether it was a BUK, or do they not want to know?
In photos the cockpit area of MH-17 appears to have been hit with machine gun fire from a 30mm cannon as well as shrapnel from a missile warhead. The first international observer on the scene, a Canadian OSCE military observer monitoring the civil war, specifically stated in a CBC interview it appeared to him MH-17 had been hit with heavy machine gun fire. As a military observer he would know what heavy machine gun fire damage looks like. The Russian air force set up a test using a SU-25 to strafe an old aircraft cockpit to compare the damage and entry/exit holes of the SU-25 cannon to those found on MH-17. The JIT declined to send an observer. Why? Are they actually trying to determine what happened to MH-17, or are they actually trying to cover it up?
Some of the photos of the cockpit area show both entry and exit holes (some flared in and some flared out) of around 30mm diameter on the same side of the fuselage panels just below the pilot’s seat, something that cannot result from a missile warhead exploding on only one side of the aircraft. The JIT report makes no comment on this, which completely discredits their claim that a single BUK missile warhead exploding on the port side of the aircraft was the sole cause of its destruction.
The JIT stated that the missile that detonated about two metres from the cockpit of MH-17 weighed about 33 kg, but a BUK missile warhead weighs over twice as much: 75 kg. On the other hand, the warhead of Israeli Python air-to-air missile carried by some SU-25s weighs around 30 kg. Why does the JIT report not comment on this discrepancy?
When a BUK missile is launched it is extremely noisy and leaves a very visible white smoke trail from it’s solid fuel exhaust which is visible for up to 15 miles, yet no one saw or photographed it. On the other hand, in the days following the shoot down the BBC interviewed numerous eyewitnesses who claim to have seen a SU-25 following the MH-17 down before heading west toward Ukraine. Why does the JIT report make no mention of this?
And so forth. I’ll wrap this up before it get into book length, although there is plenty more to say. It is patently obvious the JIT “report” and false “murder” charges are little more than a blatant fraud designed to cover up a deliberate crime committed by Ukraine with the assistance or at the behest of the CIA.
The purpose of the crime was to defame the self-defence militias of Donetsk and Luhansk by accusing them of being “terrorists” which automatically kicks in all kinds of sanctions and laws in various countries making it illegal for anyone to support them; to get back at Malaysia for hosting the International War Crimes Tribunal that indicted the Bush administration for invading Iraq; to kick-start the full scale attack on Russia and President Putin that continues to this day; and to provide cover for the massive Israeli invasion and bombing of Gaza and attendant massacre of thousands of people which not co-incidentally started just a few hours after the MH-17 shoot down grabbed the headlines.
A multi-purpose False Flag, the CIA’s speciality.
So this will be a show trial. And one must wonder why it is staged. What’s the use of a trial where defendants don’t defend themselves? Sure, the official line is they would love to have the men provide a defense, but that smells a bit too much like what has happened to Julian Assange. What are the odds of a fair trial when so many conclusions have been drawn at such early times?
There is not a soul in Europe west of the Russian border who doesn’t believe the Russians did it.
I disagree with your last paragraph. In the UK, in particular, probably about 50% of people believe the whole thing was carried out by the Ukrainians/US in order to attack Russia.
Yes, there are contradictory messages from the UK. For example, The Sun news website carries the standard story about the Buk coming from Russia and being returned there:
And then, The Sun debunks the standard video “proof”:
There is not a soul in Europe west of the Russian border who doesn’t believe the Russians did it.
It’s highly debatable whether I have a soul. But I live in Norway, and I don’t believe the Russians did it.
your last paragraph is wrong.
In my country (Europe) you won’t find a sole who believes mainstream media bs. : Russia did it .
Smart people know : Western media can not be trusted.
The ordinary people of Europe do not believe the MSM, fact. It’s just that the MSM have got police forces and the military to tell us shut up. We can’t even comment on national publications, without being removed because they don’t like our views. I was told that by an editor of a local media here, back in 2012!
I live in the EU, have family in Britain, and they don’t believe their media neither.
In fact, a Russian invasion which removes the parasites who now run the EU, would be welcomed.
As long as they only bomb the rich and their bought and paid for political classes, I’m fine with the Russkies coming over for to give help to the unarmed EU citizens.
What’s left to lose for the ordinary Joe soaps?
The entire MH 17 tragedy and it’s subsequent flow-on’s ; recent actions by the CIA, American rulers and who else, in Venezuela, North Korea, and now Iran, all seem to fit the scenario summed up by the phrase, to “jump the shark”;
Just check the Defintion : Jumping the shark is the moment when something that was once popular that no longer warrants the attention it previously received makes an attempt at publicity, which only serves to highlight its irrelevance.
The idiom “jumping the shark” is pejorative, most commonly used in reference to unsuccessful gimmicks for promoting something. It is similar to “past its peak” but more specifically suggests an unwillingness to acknowledge the fact. Originally, the phrase was used to describe an episode of a television comedy with a gimmick or unlikely occurrence desperately attempting to keep viewers’ interest. Moments labeled as “jumping the shark” are considered indications that writers have exhausted their focus; that the show has strayed irretrievably from an older and better formula; or that the series as a whole is declining in quality.
Yep Sounds about right to me. Especially in conjunction with the bored contempt the rest of the world is reacting to these desperate attempts by American Rulers to sound relevant. [Oh, I include UK, with a headline “May to instruct Putin to hand over Skripal suspects”]
Dutch government is an US bitch.
The Ukrainian fascist swines are the culprits.
> But, lets look at a few of the actual facts that are not in dispute.
But, they are!
> a law banning the Russian language spoken by most people in eastern and southern Ukraine.
It was not only about “easter and southern Ukraine”. According to American Gallup’s company, over 70% of pre-coup Ukrainians across the whole pre-coup country had Russia as their native. Not “reported” (which is often a political stance) but actually and factualyl had.
> A hastily called fake “election” …. had “elected” Poroshenko as “President”
> and he had promptly launched an assault on the local governments in eastern Ukraine.
> The local people in Donetsk and Luhansk provinces had formed self-defence militias
> The local government in Crimea held a referendum to leave Ukraine and rejoin Russia, which passed by over 96 percent.
The sequence was a bit different.
1. 16 February 2014 Right Sector announces meeting with Merkel to exchange reports on prior cooperation and to synchronize their nearest plans. Next day after the meeting “going into attack” at Ukrainian government was announced. The meeting happened on 17 February (officially Ukrainian part was represented by Tyahnibok’s Social-National Assembly “Freedom” (“Svoboda”)). And 18 February at about 10 am the attack commenced.
2. 21 or 22 February – governments of Poland, France and Germany sign a deal with Ukrainian government. Ukrainian government removes police from capital city, and Poland-France-Germany remove the pro-western militia. Yanukovich abided (idiot), Merkel and Co did not, of course.
3. 23 February, elected president Yanukovich is ousted and then head of Parliament becomes new interim president and new head of State Security Council, i think it was Parubiy.
It was this person – democratically owning powers of both Executive and Legislative branches and fusing them with authority to command security forces – that launched attack at Donbass, violating the Constitution.
In Kharkov city the “Council of elected deputies of South and East” removes authority from Kiev “until free election of new President”.
4. In early March 2014 Crimean Republic government declares independence, based upon Crimea Republic’s Constitution and upon aforementioned loss of authority by Kiev. Later, in the already independent Crimea, the Referendum is held to join Russia.
Huge week-end protests take place in Kharkov city in March and April, comparable to pre-paid pro-western Kiev protests, but with the Yanukovich-permitted public movements being mostly name-sakes on government’s payroll, they are gradually exhausted and suppressed.
5. In late March (?) 2014 Poroshenko is “elected” with non-abashed terror against “wrong” candidates (Oleg Tsaryov for example) and the Kharkov’s Council’s resolution ceases having force. About that time also Donetsk and Lugansk hold referendums of independence, but i do not remember specific timespan.
> In April around 100 people protesting the coup in Odessa were burned alive and/or shot
02 May 2014
Also on V-Day, 09 May 2014, Mariupol city is stormed by Oleg Lyahsko’s “man in black” running light tanks (IFVs). Local police tried to protect citizens and takes last stand in their headquaters, being shot at by those tanks. Democracy ensues.
> At the end of June, Poroshenko announced an all-out WWII style assault on Donetsk and Luhansk
I think it was declared before him, he however did not call it off.
> The militias defending Donetsk and Luhansk obtained shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles from Russia
Wrong! Those MANPADs were on display at least twice.
1. in Kiev streets at the expo of weaponry captured from militias
2. in Arsen “Motorola” Pavolv’s selfies which he made plenty off.
Those were Poland-made “Grom” missiles. And they were probably obtained through Georgia, or from Poland itself.
Also about that time Poroshenko’s “25th airborn division” visits Slavyansk where it transfers to Girkin-Strelkov’s militia self-propelling howitzers of “Nona” model and few IFVs. It was not treason, as the division after the transfer returned to Kiev’s command and was never punished.
Yes Ukrainian, Dutch-, German, UK- and of course the elefant in the room – the US- Government are to be round up, put on trial, hanged and fed to pigs !
The Dutch vermin even got some of their gold repatriated from the US as blood money…
Unless this thorough cleansing is not being executed there will be no justice and therefore no hope for democracy EVER in those ‘countries’ more accurately termed: pig staples.
China, Russia and the rest of the world should treat them accordingly – Putin and Xi should spit out everytime when being in their company before and after.
It’s is said that time heals all wounds, that’s just an illusion, only justice can and does. Because if it where true, then the holohoax – guilt will just evaporate – and in fact should have, but wait a minute, no,no,no not in this case of course – that’s an exception !
As we can see they always want it both ways, depending only on who is the perpetrator.
God I’m so sick of it !
>On July 17th, 2014, …… the air traffic controllers in Kiev diverted Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17
No, it was an ATC in Dnepropetrovsk city, not Kiev. She was never seen alive after that day.
> Over several days prior to July 17th, as shown on Russian and European satellite photos,
Also, week or two before, Ukrainian TV bragged about “Buk” missiles division assumed position not far away from the eventual wreck site. Back then it was not noticed among lot of similar war propaganda.
> Kiev has never provided its radar tapes to the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), claiming none of its radars, either military or civilian air traffic control, were working
…but German BND report leaked, claiming S-125 “Neva” radar was working in those hours.
> Following the shoot down, the Donetsk self-defence militias operating in the area started searching for the Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder.
At the same time Kiev’s Army started shelling the wreck site, and Kiev authorities arrested international investigators for few days, preventing them from visiting the crash sight in the first, most instructive days.
We should not forget the cold-blooded deliberation and premeditation, the grotesque
cynicism of the mass murder of nearly three hundred people with the sinister
goal of poisoning and deceiving the entire world’s consciousness against an
innocent party, all on behalf of a Satanic agenda to utterly pervert and corrupt
people’s minds and enslave their consciousness, their souls and their bodies.
There are many “False Flag” operation. How I know the first one was the USS Maine* in Havana harbor
on February 15,1898 and the second one the King David Hotel** explosion in Jerusalem on July 22, 1946.
USS Maine* – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(ACR-1)
King David Hotel** – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
The facts of this event are truly one sided. Russia did this with intent and the goal of being used as a provocation to invasion. The facts are complex, but overwhelming.
Photographs and videos at 19 geolocatable sites, intercepted telecommunications, VK posts by the TELAR crew, parts of the weapon found in the wreckage, a geolocated launch site that allowed the Buk to fire on only commercial targets, shrapnel in the pilot, first officer and purser, 2000 witnesses, a burned farmers field and thousands of documents. Let Russia off the hook on this one, not likely. You should stop offering opinions based upon your ideology and try the cold hard facts.
Seems to me that all the item you mentioned point to the CIA and Ukraine. Can you provide details as to how you arrived at your conclusion eg how the photographs telecommunication, launch site etc implicate the RF otherwise your statement is just your opinion.
What’s the lunch special at the MI6 cafeteria today?
Israel is a master of False Flags .
-In his final paragraphs, Terry states that he had better finish off before is comment becomes a book. It may be a good idea for a book to be written on this topic as the roles played out by both the Russians and the ‘five eyes’ during this segment of history.
MH17 was a final attempt to bring certain parties into conflict by the CIA. When Terry wrote; “The United States CIA had a hate on against Malaysia because they had hosted an International War Crimes Tribunal which had indicted George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and various other top American officials for invading Iraq (War of Aggression) and the many atrocities and crimes committed during the war. Although Malaysian Airlines had one of the best safety records in the business, in 2014 they lost three airliners in mysterious circumstances. CIA Payback?” Terry erred.
If you go back to the CIA’s war against Russia in Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden’s forces emanated from Saud Arabia, were paid by Saudi, trained by the CIA and mostly recruited by MI6. In the 1980’s the youngest brother of a school mate (Harold Smith) was a supposed criminal, Gregory Smith who related in Australian printed media, how he left England and ‘assisted’ the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan on his return to Australia. (Think ASIS)
Again, Terry should be aware of the role played by Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Najib Razak and the payments of originally $681million by the Saudi Royal family that were initiated in 2011, and then later in 2014 increased to $1billion, and one would have to ask why. Perhaps to cover bribes and costs in an affair involving the loss of certain civilian aircraft? Perhaps that may explain how supposed ‘Iranian terrorists’ with known false passports were able to board flight MH370 without being detected until after the aircraft went missing.
Again Terry fails to comprehend the vast knowledge of the Russian Intelligence, including their warning to the CIA of their ‘detection’ of Tamerian Tsarnaev in Dagestan and Georgia in about March 2012, and then of comments made by John Kerry in June 2012 re this matter. Of course we are all aware of the leaked audio of Victoria Nuland to the American Ambassador prior to the overthrow of the legitimate Ukrainian government, but one often does not consider what other ‘pearls’ the Russian Intelligence had gathered that were not released.
Terry also tells us: “The United States CIA took over the top two floors of the Ukrainian SBU Intelligence agency and assumed control of the SBU and the developing civil war.”, but it would be nice to know the dates of these events, but you can be assured that the Russian Intelligence were well aware of what was happening.
The Referendum in regard to Crimea was not a coincidence, but rather a foil to ensure that NATO would not be permitted to assist in the control of Russian bases in Crimea, which was one of the CIA’s agendas in the Ukraine. Now if you doubt that then consider why the Russian Intelligence were in Adelaide, South Australia in March 2014. That was neither accidental nor coincidence, but was simply another pawn in a chess game to negate the moves by the CIA.
Now remember General David Petraeus and Lt. Col. Paula Broadwell, his liaison officer to the FBI and James Yacone. It was James Yacone who led the FBI’s CIRG in KL immediately after the loss of MH370, and once you start to wonder what the FBI was doing in KL even before the American NTSB which normally investigates their ‘Air crash disasters’, and we start to get an idea that something is bigger than what we should know.
And then all the other moves and actors, like Jonti Roos and CNN’s Richard Quest, along with George H Bush’s old mate, Ari ben Menashe and then Terry has the book that would be worth writing and reading.
I wish, for the sake of such as myself who work for a living and have limited time to ferret out what “government” is doing to us, that you would give the names which hide behind acronyms and abbreviations such as FBI’s CIRG and KL.
Sure, by search and reason I discover that CIRG is “Critical Incident Response Group” and KL is Kuala Lumpur. However, it took me time and you already knew. If you wish to inform, please do me, at least, this favor. Also, I have no idea of the significance of “Russian intelligence” in southern Australia. I know about Alice Springs being a good listening post for radio signals that bounce from Russia and a long time CIA communications base from one who worked there, but not much else. Why wouldn’t the Russians have a listening post there as well? I cannot know unless you inform me.
“… and replaced it with a government of the far right … ” speaks volumes.
“Left” and “Right” are terms invented by the Zionist media to confuse rather than inform.
The true scale of “government” is zero government at one extreme and total government at the other extreme.
So it is that the National Socialist Party (NAZI) is at the same end of the scale as the Communist Party – both approaching totalitarianism.
“Government” or “State” is a group of people who claim a right to plunder productive people. All the “isms” – fascism, fabian socialism, communism, collectivism, socialism, etc., – mere stages along the quest for total control over productive people, are forms of worship. The “State” is promoted as tangible, the ultimate power, fount of all good things, etc., rather than as a mere legal fiction, an artificial entity, under the banner of which murderers and robbers terrorize and pillage productive people.
“The true scale of “government” is zero government at one extreme and total government at the other extreme.”
What do you mean by ‘total government’ – authoritarianism? Where do you put the people — the governed ones — in your classification?
You could measure government perhaps by measuring how they attend the interests of the governed — if you do so, you can define a scale from minimum to maximum attendance. It is only then that you can link government with authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is not an empty concept. A government may use authority to impose its will over the governed when they disagree with the decisions taken — if they do not focus on people’s needs.
In this sense, if, in a graphic scale, you put maximum attendance of people’s interests on the left side and minimum attendance on the right, the traditional classification is still valid.
It should be noted that the US don’t allow international warcrime investigators to enter the US (Trump administration), and that the US for many years refuse to recognize the Haag war criminal Tribunal or ICJ (ICC) (withdrawn itself) after obviously engaging in war crimes everywhere. The blatant coup d’etat in Ukraine is arguably a crime against humanity resulting in massive inhuman operations against the civilian population and a massive economically based operation to transfer any value of financial and commercial values , and purchase of land and its use has been transferred abroad. Chevron got exclusive rights to the oil and gas grid for example, and (the Biden linked) Burisma hold national rights to exploration of gas. It was noted in New York Times that Nathaniel Rothschild had become the richest in the family on Ukraine investments, and this was in 2007. The Man Who May Become the Richest Rothschild
George Soros and the Rothschilds were active in Russia and Ukraine since the beginning (the planning) of the takedown of the Soviet Union (Gorbachev used the Rothschild Trilateral Commision as consultants, and established a national bank in 1989 , 2 years before the takedown. Boris Yeltsin was in fact a secretary and accomplish. Gorbachev made himself president, and was really involved actively in the takedown and the Accords of Belavezha with Boris Yeltsin present that was the proving ground for the next and final phase, the Alma Ata conference which culminated in the Alma Ata Protocol which is the legal basis for the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The Belavezh Accords were never ratified or accepted by the Soviet Union (pres Gorbachev ). Why is this important? Read the Alma Ata Treaty. Ukraine may never (or any CIS state) develope into more than a neutral status, militarily it may never join NATO and such forces may never operate therefore in Ukraine. It is a massive violation of international law, in fact the very law that provided the legalt status of any Soviet Republic, formerly Russia, to transfer itself from Russia through a Soviet Union construction, into a sovereign nation. So this new formation of nations were to be neutral at most and member of CIS according to the founding document.
Is it possible Blackwater advanced fighting vehicle Humvee’s anti-aircraft turret (AIM-9x ) used in secret operations in Ukraine against MH-17 ?
It is highly possible since Blackwater operated in Ukraine under the name Academi from the beginning of ATO the socalled anti terrorist operation, and may well be involved in false flag attacks sanctioned by the deep state USA. Blackwater is known for training UAE forces (mercenaries), their presence accounting for high level of sofisticated military capability along with resources and in the area were missiles recently were launced recently against tankers in the Hormuz Strait highly aligned with US strategy of tension against Iran. This is in contrast to the Mike Pompeo statement that there were no proxy forces with advanced capability in the area.
At the time of John McCain involvement in Ukraine, USA would also had the opportunity to use Blackwater.
There are two distinct desinformation regarding the shootdown of MH-17 that are suspicious since they have the characteristics of never being able to be pinned on anyone since it never happened:
BUK (the theory of JIT the offical dutch safety board investigation)
MIG-29 (in case someone would produce the witnesses that observed that SU-25’s were involved in the shootdown, a film was produced with credible witnesses given sketches of aircrafts deciding they saw a MIG-29 attack MH-17 , see earlier explanation in this thread).
About AIM-9X developed for Humvee special purpose vehicles, they were used in Iraq. See also:
During the test a telemetered AIM-9X was cued by an off-board sensor. The missile, which was mounted on a LAU-7A/D launcher on a U.S. Marine Corps Humvee, tracked, launched and guided to within lethal range of the target.
“A ground-based AIM-9X missile system makes perfect sense from a value and capabilities perspective,” said Harry Schulte, Raytheon Missile Systems vice president of Air Warfare Systems. “AIM-9X has transformed air-to-air engagements and will now provide a revolutionary surface-to-air capability for force protection, high-value asset protection and overall air defense.”
AIM-9X Sidewinder Specifications
Diameter: 130 millimeter (5.12 inch)
Length: 3 meter (118 inch)
Wingspan: 350 millimeter (13.8 inch)
Max Range: 26,000 meter (14.0 nautical mile)
Top Speed: 850 mps (3,061 kph)
Warhead: 10 kilogram (22.0 pound)
Weight: 85 kilogram (187 pound).
It may reach MH-17 at 10000m above sealevel, a similar occurence as other instances, as A321 russian airliner over Sinai 10200m (above sealevel) were downed .
According to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
“In aviation and aviation meteorology, flight level (FL) is an aircraft’s altitude at standard air pressure, expressed in hundreds of feet. The air pressure is computed assuming an International Standard Atmosphere pressure of 1013.25 hPa (29.92 inHg) at sea level, and therefore is not necessarily the same as the aircraft’s actual altitude, either above sea level or above ground level.”
Here is a very interesting interview with Leuren Moret involving John McCain and Odessa governor Saakashvili in false flag operations. Leuren Moret is a respected scientist with deep insight in the US deep state Leuren Moret interview
See also Leuren Moret
In my country (Europe) you won’t find a sole who believes mainstream media bs. : Russia did it .
Smart people know : Western / zionists owned media can not be trusted.
“The lower Russian must come up.”
It was already known for some time that the Dutch investigation was wrong with false statements and withholding witness statements.
The role of the “citizen” research team Bellingcat was also taken up by the shredder at a very early stage after serious journalistic research.
In this episode Kees van der Pijl and Karel van Wolferen announce the denouement of the greatest failure in the post-war history of a Dutch government.
On March 8 at 13:30 there is a conference in the Lutheran Church on the Singel in Amsterdam where the results and burden of proof are presented about falsely accusing Russia of taking down the MH17