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How many more times are we going to “Turn Away”.
We’re swimming in an ocean of lies, fake news, propaganda and an attempt at enslavement of humanity in Feudalism.
Be numb and become a serf. No rights, no humanity.
Waters illuminates the darkness by turning to the Truth.
Send this link to all your friends. This video needs massive global consumption.
The Anglo-American elites succeed in getting Trump to strengthen sanctions against Russia. They make sure that Europe and European companies are punished for trading with Russia and with Russian companies. In turn, Russia is forced to become stronger as a result of becoming self-sufficient:
As an aside, wasn’t South Africa punished in the 1980s with “crippling” sanctions and divestment, causing the South African economy to boom. The South African government was “peacefully” overthrown a few years later. Are the Anglo-American elites trying to run the same playbook for Russia?
Western (Anglo-American) elites want Europe to unite against Russia, but they will never allow German and Poland to reconcile and become good friends. How long will the Anglo-American elites play the WW2 card. That is fast becoming ancient history for people who were born decades after the war:
If Germany would be stupid enough to pay Poland, does that mean Germany gets to redraw the eastern border to the way it was in 1914? Why is Poland always on the wrong side of history. Poland has always been forced to choose sides. Either it allies with Germany or it unites with Russia. There is no “independent” option. Becoming a banana republic of the Western elites is a forced, artificial option for Poland.
The increasingly detached nature of the Empire Executive, and weakly aligned quorum of the 0.1% leadership, has resulted in them overplaying their cards.
Recent actions by this shadowy clique of psychopathic sociopaths has initiated the creation of an alternative trade currency, which will undermine the foundation of the empire’s control nexus; for when an alternative is presented, we’ll see the true extend of the 99%’s rejection of the empire by the accelerating abandonment of the U.S. $ as the reserve currency of the planet; of course, this will result in a catastrophic devaluation of said currency, creating a systemic reifying effect.
The Empire will Fall
Unfortunately, by nature of the psychopathic sociopathologists, they tend to be survivors; (think of the drowning person, who not only takes down any potential rescuer, but the entire continent, to save themselves, and somehow survives!)
We need systems for reliably and validly identifying these types and ‘outing’ them to the 99% (then just let nature take its course).
Of course, the scary part is, certainly part of the 0.1% likely know the situation in which they have boxed themselves in (a faction of more may have actively pursued this course, for their own ‘gaming’ purposes), since one of their only remaining options is catastrophic hot (nuclear) conflict, the outcomes of which will catastrophically destroy the biosphere and much of humanity will be culled.
They know only ‘winning’ (but who knows how psychotics may define it).
Somewhat ironically (I’m sure we could get a well-justified coloured accounting of him), one of the best assets humanity has seen for a while is the individual of Vladmir Putin, who continues to make the (ostensible) western (empire) leadership look… well, dim, to say the least.
We need input from readers and contributors here on constructive alternatives to exposing the drive towards war to the blinded majority; the awareness of the masses must be elevated to win this secret war being waged secretly by the 0.1% on the 99%.
If you are reading this, please give it thought and share your best ones here.
The Russian and Chinese elites must realize by now that they will never be allowed to join the Anglo-American elites as equal partners. Submit and be plundered. Resist and then suffer the fate of Libya. Why are the Western elites surprised that few countries share their vision of a one world government and are abandoning trade in the dollar. I do wonder if English will eventually be replaced by either Russian or Chinese as a world language. Certainly the elites of the Far East Asian countries are striving to learn Chinese in addition to English. How many elites in countries bordering Russia are learning Russian?
As an aside, Roger Waters never has to worry about angering an existing or pototential employer by his words and actions. It must be nice to be retired and comfortable. Many potential buyers of his music are too self-absorbed with video games, social media, tattoos, and iPhones to care about politics. How many Americans can find North Korea on a map.
Increasing numbers of people are waking us to the fact that they are being lied to by the very institutions they once trusted. Witness the mass exodus of young people from Evangelical mega churches in the USA. They are being conditioned to believe that there is no absolute truth. A population that believes in subjective truth only is easy to manipulate.
An interesting post on your part ,Yes its true that Poland is caught between two major European powers -Russia and Germany- and the Anglo-Zionist cabal has used Poland for their own designs . Poland is being used as a wedge against Germany as the Ukraine is being used as a wedge against Russia. The timing of the reparations proposal coincides with the newest sanctions against Russia and for that matter Germany . That’s why President Trump went to Poland first instead of travelling directly to Germany for the G-20 meeting in Hamburg. The Merkel administration is going to have a tough time in selling US LNG to German Citizens at a 30 per cent premium . The Polish government is foolish in believing that they will become the LNG hub for Western Europe . Although the ‘Three Seas ‘ initiative may not include Germany .Nevertheless the choice is still a matter of price . President Trump’ nonsensical argument that Germany must diversify its energy needs is in fact a farce .What he had stated in reality was -buy our (US) gas at a premium and become dependant on us instead of the Russian Federation ,mind you at a 30 per cent disadvantage. This predicament is going to open old wounds between Germany and Poland . As an aside its very easy to foment Russophobia amongst the Polish People or have the Poles turn against Germany . I believe that this is happening now ,to the detriment of Polska . Poland’s future lies in a Slavic Union not in a Anglo-Zionist money racket and I believe that many Germans will benefit from this Economic possibility.
I saw Roger lay out this (same material) series of facts and his careful defining of the small minority of anti-social actors, and compassionate delineation for co-oped actors; in this very coherent, very reasonable, and not at all ‘hateful’ manner.
Yet, where I saw it, and the headline that was attached to it, were weirdly out of place, for this was headlined with the standard “anti-$#m|+e/hate” defamatory labeling on a pro-Israeli web site.
We can see that he remains wary and holding back, at the 6:10 mark, where he refers to the decisions having been made “…comes from above…”, and he then says, “… You can figure it out for yourselves. It is not rocket science. …”.
I think the mechanics DO need to be spelled out; but despite how forthright, and clearly honestly, (he could possibly be mistaken, but he clearly passionately believes what he says) he presents his case, he refrains from spelling out the mechanics, because even he can’t!
Roger refers to us living in “1984”, and he needs to understand that this political correctness censorship is the mechanics to removing words from the dictionary (done in the book, so people could NOT EVEN CONCEIVE OF REVOLT!)
1. publish the mechanics of the program
2. document/publish occurrences of the mechanics being used, and the best evidence resultant from the application of the repressive activities
3. use the resource of the world-wide web to develop mitigation tactics against the uses/abuses of these systems of waging micro-war on individuals/groups, which protest the crookedness of this program
I send thanks to Roger Waters, for jeopardizing his health, safety, and legacy for the 99% betterment of humanity, and also The Saker for providing a platform for this information.
To usual suspects:
I can tell that you are differentiated by the extent to which to think, and consider relevant (and likely other) issues.
Please devote a certain amount of this unusual cognitive ability, and your more free minds, to drafting creative methods to constructively undermine the program of repression, and share them here, (as per the guidelines of our gracious host).
This world is worth fighting for.
“Orders from above” makes clear that he wants his audience to think for themselves. And not to be fueled by trigger words. That’s called wisdom.
Waters measured most all his words, save for his anti-Trump comments. But that’s to be expected, though actually weakens his presentation. Trump presents himself as a non-thoughtful person. If you research a bit, you’ll discover that his policies are his thoughts and analysis from 35-40 years ago, most on video from 25-30 years ago.
And, Trump would be with Waters on Palestine if the Palestinians could find a secure way to stand down and let him negotiate a deal. He’s sending over his son-in-law again with a team to try to get talks rolling again. Trump desires to get a two-state solution. That’s not Bibi’s, his friend, plan. Idealism exist within Trump.
Waters should seek a talk with Trump. That would be a great thing. Trump loves big stars of the entertainment world.
Solon, I appreciate your input.
I agree with you that allowing citizens to form their own connections is not only ideal, but in many ways, it may be necessary.
But if the basic contextual foundations to not exist, then these connections are unlikely to be formed.
My recommend on approach:
1. identify the facts without describing actor labels
2. describe the mechanics without assigning actor labels
3. our ‘paying attention’ target group will be able to frame the players, thereby forming their own cognitive connections (neural pathways)*
4. by forming a knowledge base of the mechanics, the next phase will be generating mitigation/exposure tactics and methods for bringing them to the larger public
* a technique widely employed by the controllers of the mainstream media/perception management/propaganda agencies of the empire/0.1% factions
And what do you think Trump’s big contributer, and partner in the casino business, Sheldon Adelson, has in mind concerning a two state solution?
You guys are too much.
Adelson and Trump are not friends or partners.
His partner in Vegas is Phil Ruffin.
And Adelson never directed his money into the Trump campaign.
He had a superpac that got his money.
They are not social or ideological friends or associates.
Aside from all your facts being wrong, you appear less than too much.
You can bet that this site is monitored by intelligence agencies; so if anyone was appeared to be a potential threat, measures would be taken.
Waters is protected, to some extent, by his status.
Something similar to prayer would be more appropriate, IMO.
Not everyone in intelligence agencies is a scumbag enemy of humanity.
Please take note of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and their recently widely published proof that “It was a Leak by Insiders, not A “Hack” by anyone, least of all Russia:
It’s starting to go somewhat “mainstream”. Prudence sometimes entails “pouring on the coal” and busting flanks wide open, not merely “praying” about it.
“A group of former US spies, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, has been investigating whether the leaks of Democratic National Committee files were the result of Russian hacks. And Leonid Bershidsky at Bloomberg reports that “what they found instead is evidence to the contrary” — specifically, that “at least some of the DNC files were taken by an insider rather than by hackers,” in order to “fabricate evidence” the DNC “had been hacked by Russia” so as to “defuse” the WikiLeaks disclosures promised by Julian Assange. The findings are based on forensic findings suggesting the download speed was impossible from the Internet. VIPS, he notes, “includes former National Security Agency staffers with considerable technical expertise.” If they’re right, ignoring them could lead to “a dangerous failure to recognize that Donald Trump’s victory was an American phenomenon, not a Russian-made one.”
Footsoldiers may be noble but they don’t make policy.
Hillary’s misdeeds and the DNC leak aren’t official.
Reds under the bed is where the real action is.
And, ethical conduct by officials has an alarming correspondence with suicide, misadventure and moider – if you catch my drift.
Don’t kid yourself Dennis, we live in a panopticon prison society. However the folks in intelligence start out, and however intelligent or empathic they may be, when push comes to shove they administer the world on behalf of a degenerate and psychopathic elite. They are deceivers who always constrain their ‘criticism’ to the pseudo reality which they participate in creating, a great and terrible lie, because to do otherwise would be a career ending move.
Then there’s the whole matter of what happens to your character, not to mention your immortal soul, when your make it your life’s work to hold up a terrible lie. Inevitably you degenerate and this causes you to make it your life’s mission to bring everyone else down to your level, so you can retain a sense of balance and fight off the dissonance you can never escape. Those who are genuinely decent people, and there are undoubtedly many, become schizophrenic in order to seperate themselves from the evil they must do.
I’ll boil it down for you brother 93 — there is no excuse or justification for being a collaborator with the ugliness that intelligence agencies create and administer. I can be sympathetic to a point, but tidying up a crime scene, or attempting to moderate a stupid lie, helps no one but the criminal.
Thank you, Roger!! I may even have to start listening to Rock Music, for your courage and intelligence is refreshing. “THE Lobby” is everywhere, but I applaud your pushing back, and I’m pleased it hasn’t destroyed your career.
Boy, he’s done his homework.
There will be war. And to some extent it will be nuclear.
The nuclear bit will be mostly on the US continent because the US has no middle defence against sophisticated weapon carriers made and designed in Russia.
Not many, possibly no US nukes will hit Russia, in fact most will not even launch because they moved in to obsolescence at the turn of the century. Upgrades are impossible due to lack of technology (see useless F35) and lack of suitable fissile material.
There will be limited tactical nuclear strikes in Romania and Poland plus anywhere else there are Aegis sites, including US warships, east of the Greenwich meridian. Other US/NATO ships will be destroyed by Russian submarines.
The 1% will be hunkered down in New Zealand and Australia and will be lynched by the locals long before nuclear fall out kills the indigenous/immigrant population who built the damn shelters in the first place.
Millions will survive.
There will be no nuclear war. Don’t feed this idea in your mind. US empire is collapsing and it will not go full retard. That’s why Trump was put into the POTUS seat.
You got it confirmed from CIA director now:
CIA Director: “We Are Not On The Cusp Of A Nuclear War”
If there were a nuclear war with the USA, the elites would hide in their bunkers and allow most of the population to die. Agenda 21. They would most likely be hiding from the fallout in the Southern Hemisphere, as you suggest. Why else would the Bush family own thousands of acres of land in Paraguay.
By the way, ever notice that the USA is not mentioned in the book of Revelation. By the time the world really gets bad, North America may be irrelevant. Europe will eventually have another dictatorship in order for the EU to avoid breaking apart.
Actually the USA is mentioned in The Book of Revelations. Since creation of Federal reserve in 1913 there have been 8 Democratic presidents (Heads of the Beast) and 10 republican presidents (horns0. D.C> is the Whore of Babylon, the horns shall hate the whore. The republicans keep talking about how Washington has too much power. Yes 666 is the federal government.
Great share, Saker, and perhaps the most coherent and poignant rock interview in 20 or more years.
Roger Waters is brave. He puts his money where his mouth is. He is informed and coherent on the USA, UK, Russia, the middle east, and everywhere else.
I have to ask, to my fellows in the trade: Where the f*ck are you, Rock n’ Rollers?
Did you only believe in human rights when they could sell records? When your belief was “safe”?
Where are you?
I could name names, but it would be pointless. The only name that matters is that of Roger Waters, who actually gives a f*ck for the future of humanity, and is doing a proper world tour for that purpose. I am actually pleased that Jimmy Page put flowers on the graves at Hiroshima, but other than that, I can’t think of anyone in the rock world who has the guts to do anything. Waters has done way more. And they will not stop his shows. “Us and Them” is one of his best songs. Bravo, Roger.
Also… kudos to RT for fantastic editing in a brilliant segment. Long after the Stone’s performance is a forgotten embarrassing memory, Waters will be remembered for appearing on RT. Cheers, Roger!
“I’ll know corporations are people when I see Texas execute one” – Unknown source but a great point!
Why? Well Roger it comes down to the reserve currency war. Anyone selling oil and gas for non-US dollars must be stopped or the gig is up and empire USA is over.
Your absolutely right .That is what the game is about today .The US dollar is being questioned for its value -which is not much-.Other by the barrel of a gun which in simple language means , do as your told or else . The US dollar will collapse in the last quarter of 2019.
One reason reason the British oligarchy promotes Rogers Waters in alt media by reverse endorsement is to guage the strength of determined opposition. Another reason is to ‘manage’ it.
This does not mean Waters is insincere, only that Zionists understand how to use any opposition to their advantage, whether it be directly controlled or otherwise.
You are held in the Zionist mirage by such figures, and perhaps heartened when the BBC does a story concerning the ‘controversial’ Mr. Waters.
The question is of course why do you continue to immerse yourself in Zionist culture, and the reason is because none of us can figure out the answer to every question. To remain a functional and accepted member of society we must defer to the majority and milleu, and so thanks to Waters we are able to remain somewhat coherent, if we perceive the contradictions inherent to a society of slaves.
I don’t think your assessment is correct. I think that the only use the British establishment has for Mr. Waters is that he sold a sh(t ton of records. They will never give him an MBE; also, look at guys like John Lydon who go and play in Israel right after the ship was attacked…
The British state, and after that the American, is based on booze and bribes. Also MBE’s, which mean nothing to Americans but which 99/100 British middle class dream about morning, noon, and night. Ever listen to the BBC? Also, yearly drunken fests celebrating musical “treasures” — Q awards, Melody Maker awards, etc., etc. John Lydon, promoted as the egalitarian hero of all working men. Thanks, John. Isn’t it just great to be drunk all day, every day? What a dream for the freedom of mankind! You, too can be this way! Free booze all around.
There’s an awful clip of a drunk Lydon on an Israeli Heineken stage, promoting the greatness of the Israeli state, which gives the game away. Waters ain’t playing it.
Roger Waters is not the only musician that is advocating egalatarism . So is a pretty French Maiden by the name of ZAZ . I hope more people can and will connect . The interview is in French but I guess the Saker in French will understand .
Both Waters and RT presented a well reasoned analysis here. Really well done interview. The intro about Paul Robeson, mccarthyism, aipac/zionazism, threads were connected. Water’s remarks on trump, perfect.
I would not be very surprised if Roger Waters “suddenly” dies on a “heart attack”. We are living in dangerous times indeed.
OTOH, if one can hope to look like he does at age 70, that’s a blessing indeed. He doesn’t appear to have had any “work done”, so to speak, a rarity. He’s way more coherent and together than he was in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s… you can’t “take out” that!
Check the people around you to find the ones that hate your opinions, and claim everything is good in the West. They will always be the ones who get everything they ‘know’ from the BBC or the equivalent in their nation.
Orwell knew the BBC. Knew the BBC was simply the public facing propaganda arm of MI5/MI6 (before the agencies had these names)- and was run by establishment public school boys to promote Deep State agendas. Orwell came out of advertising and early Russian communist worlds. He had experienced the zionist taint- and knew where its leaders wanted to take the sheeple.
1984 is a world where the middle classes cannot even turn off the BBC TV and Radio broadcasts. It is a world where the middle classes must use the politically correct Groupthink, expressed in Newspeak. Oft forgotten in 1984 is the fact the working classes are flooded with braindead soaps and machine written lurid fiction- and are otherwise left alone save for when they are used as cannon fodder.
Today the class system has gone for most people as the two main strata merged after WW2. So the sheeple get both the relentless dreary propaganda of the BBC ‘news’ ***and*** the knuckle-dragging reality TV and lurid hateful tabloid ‘journalism’.
Those that buy into the system ‘know’ Assad is a ‘monster’ and have been trained by a massive resurgence of pro-Allies-WW2-Propaganda to think that images of once peaceful beautiful cities reduced to dust are ‘acceptable’ if it is part of the fight against ‘evil’. Of course, in WW2, it was the West that put entire cities to the sword, not the axis. Indeed the entire last phase of WW2 consisted of the UK and USA choosing yet another city, identifying the main civilian population centres, and then firebombing it to extinction after the main transport hubs out of the city had been destroyed.
People like Walters came out of WW2 and remember why in the peace that followed, the British people loathed Winston Churchill with a passion.
The ‘peace dividend’ that eventually revolutionised the lives of ordinary people lulled people into a false sense of security. The West was carefully anti-war thru to the 1980s. And in all those peaceful decades, the new orwellian control mechanisms were perfected in their first phase. Then came Tony Blair, and things were no longer covert in phase two, but very very overt. Britain gained its surveillance camera culture, and Blair moved pro-war training into all societal systems raising the young- culminating in the nightmare ‘academy’ school system.
Potential resistance by the ‘natives’ of Europe was handled by the Deep State policy of flooding ‘primitive’ immigrants into those lands. Previously immigrants had been useful, intelligent, humane people regardless of whether christian, hindu, muslim etc. But Blair’s ‘recruitment’ was from the dregs of the most backwards areas of failing nations. To give a ‘white’ example- Poland opened its prisons and allowed the worst of its criminal scum to flood Britain- just as Casto did years earlier when US pressure on Cuba led to Cuba taking a very clever revenge on the USA.
Sadly the immigrant criminal gangs are very dynamic, resourceful, and fearless. Given a chance they take over control of their ethnic immigrant communities, and soon offer useful voting and urban control. Their rising criminal income puts politicains and police in their pockets locally. The same phenomenon that made illegal drugs such a blight in decaying Urban regions in America. Drugs = money = power. Gangs = money = power.
1984 ends with the torture of Winston- and whereas many naive readers (even today) would expect his execution- that would simply show they’ve missed the entire lesson of the story. Winston is tortured ***not*** to earn his aquiesence (his submission to authority) but to program him to give genuine loyalty and respect to whatever lies the Deep State is putting out that hour. He must actually ‘see’ the ‘correct’ number of fingers and totally disbelieve the evidence of his own eyes.
And by the way, another ignored aspect of 1984 is the ***fact*** that Winston enthusiastically agrees to become a true terrorist earlier in his ‘conversion’- when he thinks a very high up controller is really part of the ‘resistance’. It is important, for reasons most readers do not comprehend sadly, that Winston is never depicted as a ‘good’ Human. What makes 1984 all the more remarkable is the fact that the ‘protaganist’ is a pretty rotten person.
PS if you’ve never seen the film Brazil- do yourself a giant service and go watch it (properly in peace giving it your full attention). In 1984, a group of people wanted to do the film version, but didn’t have the rights (a rather basic film of 1984 was also made in the same year). As a result they distilled the essence of 1984 into a brand new screenplay and Brazil was born. Like Starship Troopers and Once Upon A Time In America, the film was profoundly misunderstood by the common audience and critics alike at the time, and thus mostly flopped.
Each stage of the narrative from 1984 has a brilliant improved analogue in Brazil. And Brazil is a futuristic retro world based on 1948 Britain, the year the book was published.
The fate of Brazil’s ‘Winston’ is the same but different- to reflect the lala-land the idiot victims of Tony Blair think they live in. Not so much a final submission to authority, but a vanishing into the fantasy that all is wonderful with the world. Speak to clinton or blair lovers, and they’ll tell you things have never been more excellent for people in general. The big picture doesn’t even exist as a concept for them.
However we know what matters is where the Deep State is going- and that is the final Global War- where Mans’s technical ingenuity for mass murder that has been exponentially improved since WW2 will see Human existence mostly ended on our planet. True evil is the force in the Universe that attempts to rid it of self-aware life. The Universe is not naturally ‘alive’, and our conscious existence that gives purpose to our bodies is an ‘infection’ that evil seeks to eradicate. So we must be induced to use our ‘cleverness’ to commit mass and complete species suicide.
The ‘demons’ are the voices that whisper into the ears of hopeless Humans. In the smallest degree they motivate the terrible serial killers. In the greatest degree the warlords that rally Man to the idea that mass slaughter of fellow Humans under any excuse is ‘natural’. The worst Humans are those that allow the demons to co-exist in their bodies, like Tony Blair.
The natural state of the Human Soul can be seen in the innocence and wonder of babies and small children. The idea that ‘growing up’ means an end of innocence is a purely demonic invention- which is why monsters like Blair work so hard to spread it.
Animal Farm and 1984 both have the themes of the death of innocence.
George Orwell is the Zion-Intel lifetime actor name of Eric Blair. The Blairs are one of the tight-knit crypto-Jewish oligarch families that have ruled Great Britain from behind the throne for 500 plus years.
By the time Orwell wrote ‘1984’, he must have become weary and depressed by the duplicitous, treacherous life he had lived. 1984 is not fiction, but oligarch insider info taken from Zion’s numerous white papers discussing the best approach to governance over the world’s goyim population.
Aldous Huxley, himself a crypto-Jewish Zion-Intel lifetime actor, faulted Orwell for his 1984. Why use force and intimidation, when happy drugs and sexiness achieve the same level of mass-control? Why give rise to angry resistance when people can easily by tricked into loving their servitude, as elaborated in ‘Brave New World’, Huxley’s own take on the perfect global dictatorship.
For a fascinating in-depth discussion of the meaning of ”brave new world’, an expression taken from Shakespeare’s ‘The Tempest’, listen to the first half hour of this talk with Joe Atwill.
Spoiler: In Shakespeare’s times, brave also had the meaning of flamboyant, as in flashy, theatrical. Get it? The brave new world is a fake new world.
@Twilight I truly love you for this one:
‘The natural state of the Human Soul can be seen in the innocence and wonder of babies and small children. The idea that ‘growing up’ means an end of innocence is a purely demonic invention- which is why monsters like Blair work so hard to spread it.’
One could say they are two sentences which have been and will become eternal truth ! What a diamond ! Billions and Billions of soul wait for it to come true !
Jesus said something very similar in his remarks regarding children and the Son of man.
Thank you Saker for posting this interview.
In case anyone missed Mr. Waters address in 2012 at the United Nations (whatever that institution means today).