By Rostislav Ishchenko
Translated by Ollie Richardson and Angelina Siard
cross posted with http://www.stalkerzone.org/rostislav-ishchenko-why-the-operation-to-de-legitimise-ukraine-should-be-extended-to-2019/
What people were saying about 4 years ago concerning the probable (even desirable) future absolutely imperceptibly became the reality. The US, which staged the Ukrainian and Syrian crises for the sake of preserving their hegemony, lost the position of the sole world leader. They launched trade wars not only with China, India, Russia, but also with the European Union, Canada, and Japan.
During the last G7 summit the allies actively pursued Trump so much so that observers started talking about the transformation of the “7” into “6”.
The US President takes the initiative of returning Russia into a “8”, Moscow answers by saying that it didn’t especially want this. If, supposedly, you need to communicate, then you can come to our place – either all seven at once or one after the other.
The slogan “We need Berlin!” that amused many has practically been realised. Germany stubbornly completes “Nord Stream-2″, ignoring the discontent of both Washington and their East European allies.
The EU remains in crisis, European politicians and experts predict disintegration and also speak about the need for reform. One thing is clear: in the nearest future the EU won’t exist in the form that it has existed in up to know. Regardless of whether or not there will be a centralised Franco-German “Fourth Reich”, whether or not the EU will drop its East European ballast – having returned to a primordial Western European format, whether or not a Europe of strong national states will appear, the kingdom of supranational euro-bureaucracy is crumbling in front of the eyes anyway.
Brussels, which still yesterday had national governments dancing to its beat at its discretion, today can’t do much.
NATO is in crisis. The US admits that it can’t defend Europe in the event of a “Russian attack”. At the same time, the considerable part of Europe (from Bulgarians to these same Germans) starts considering the Russian military-political umbrella as a desirable alternative to an American one. So far the creation of a euro-army becomes more active. This process, of course, is long and not simple, it is possible to say endless, but here it’s not the result, but the demonstrative counterposing of hypothetical “independent European defense” to NATO under the US’ control that is important here.
In Syria Assad successfully finishes off the insurgents of all colors and shades activated by the US. And in Ukraine the local oligarchy, without any serious efforts by Russia, finishes up dismantling the Ukrainian State and definitively discrediting the idea of Ukrainian statehood. The only thing that now worries Moscow and Berlin is that Ukrainians liquidate Ukraine not very quickly. There is a need for some more time in order to definitively get rid of dependence on Ukrainian transit and also to coordinate positions on the future of the territory that becomes wild before the eyes, including concerning allocating the money needed to create a new economy and to restore normal life for the remaining people. Russia absolutely distinctly hints to the European Union that it expects its active financial participation in reconstruction of the State that was destroyed by its [EU’s – ed] efforts.
And there was no need for any tank armadas coming either to Lvov or Paris. It happened without multi-billion investments in “the creation of a pro-Russian layer” in the ranks of a “creative class” (roughly speaking – bribery of media outlets). Ukrainian nationalists convincingly showed the population that Ukraine isn’t capable of having an independent existence, and that normal life is possible on this territory only if it enters into Russia’s orbit.
Pro-maidan Ukrainian politicians rendered to Russia the hugest service. They themselves severed all cooperation ties and destroyed the Ukrainian industry that acted as a natural competitor to the Russian one. Moreover, before the implementation of the import substitution program Russia depended on the deliveries of a huge nomenclature of Ukrainian products. And it critically depended on many indicators.
If it wasn’t for the distinct policy of the Ukrainian authorities (all authorities, and not just the latest ones) aimed at severing cooperation ties, the import substitution program would never have been realised (nobody will invest billions in the construction of duplicating enterprises or bypassing pipelines if deliveries are rhythmical and transit is guaranteed). So today’s Russian industrial power is the unintentional merit of the Ukrainian authorities, which de-industrialised Ukraine in the interests of Russia.
But now, when, as was already said, the expectations of four-year prescription became a reality, the question “and what will happen in Ukraine afterwards?” didn’t lose relevance.
The hopes of the Ukrainian nationalists to receive aid from the West failed. The West itself needs help (at least political and diplomatic) from Russia. Washington and Brussels have long been ready to give Ukraine back to Moscow in order to not incur political, financial, and reputation losses because of the behavior of their local proteges, but, with the mercantilism that is inherent in the West, they want to receive something in exchange.
And Russia doesn’t want to give them anything. On the contrary, Moscow absolutely fairly considers that the West – which suffered a geopolitical defeat, as some kind of reparations – must clean up wherever it left a mess, in Ukraine in particular.
And this isn’t about evacuating [from Ukraine – ed] pro-West politicians and dismantling the regime – the Ukrainian authorities perfectly cope with it. It is about financial participation in restoring the destroyed habitat, which in the best years fed over 50 million population.
But in order to start to rebuild something, there is a need to get rid of the current Ukrainian regime, to practically nullify the contents of the highest political echelon. The West can’t do this. And Russia can’t do this either. Not because such a decision is difficult. It is simpler to convene an international tribunal for Ukraine. From the “heavenly hundred“ killed during the coup to the Malaysian “Boeing”, from the attempted genocide of the population of Donbass to the murders on May 2nd, 2014 in Odessa, from mass human rights violations to even more mass corruption — there will be enough charges. It is possible to jail for a long time, if not for forever, everyone – from the “experts” and journalists that the regime relies on to the politicians and oligarchs who benefit the most from it.
But this is ineffective because folk storytellers will re-appear and convince the trustful new generations – who didn’t see the results of nationalist governance – that if it wasn’t for Russia, which displaced the Ukrainian authorities by force, the descendants of Sumerians [some Ukrainian “patriots” actually think they are descendants of the ancient Sumerians – ed] would be tired of prosperity.
The genocide of the Ukrainian political elite should be carried out by the Ukrainian political elite itself. And it will cope with this task. Moreover, it is already coping with it. In fact, this is the only task that is the bread and butter of the Ukrainian governors. They may not be good at many things, but eating each other and not being fully sated is something they are masters of.
The essence of the Ukrainian regime consists in destroying any competition. It grew from gangs that extorted market kiosks to the size of the State, but didn’t change its habits and methods.
There can’t be two gangs in the market, someone has to leave. And in the Ukrainian State there can’t be two oligarchs, there can’t be competing politicians or parties. There can be only an absolute vertical of co-subordination and like-mindedness. Every politician and every oligarch in Ukraine aspired, aspires, and will aspire to concentrate allow power and poverty in their hands.
Now Poroshenko is the weak link, and an oligarchical consensus that placed a stake on Tymoshenko developed against him. In order to not change one robber for another, even more dangerous one, the oligarchy decided to indeed realise the idea of the decentralisation of Ukrainian power. That’s why Tymoshenko started talking about the transformation of Ukraine into a chancellor republic (with a weak president and a government that is strong, but dependent on parliament) and about its practical transformation into a federal state with a two-chamber parliament. Among other things, this is also a demonstration for Russia that Yulia Tymoshenko can do what Poroshenko couldn’t (implement key points of the Minsk Agreements).
However, we know that Tymoshenko isn’t one of those people who refuses absolute power – on the contrary, no matter how many powers may be conferred on her, it won’t be enough. We also know that the Ukrainian political tradition assumes the concentration of power in one pair of hands. The position can be called whatever you want: the president, the Prime Minister, the Chairman of the Supreme Council, even the first secretary of the Central Party Committee, but its essence won’t change because of it — the governor will be super-authorised and an individual person. That’s why Tymoshenko easily promises to become a chancellor, understanding that it’s not about the job title, but about taking from Poroshenko the real levers of control over the State.
However, the political struggle has its own logic and the steps and statements made today, which the politician considers to be void of meaning and unable to influence tomorrow’s agenda, in practice have a key impact on the formation of tomorrow’s political landscape.
Tymoshenko in the fight against Poroshenko tries to lean on parliament and regional elites. In order for these structures to be able to effectively support her they have to be strong, and Tymoshenko tries to strengthen them, suggesting to them to appropriate additional powers without prior arrangement and calling them (via Baloga’s lips) to form their own power structures.
But then nobody will simply give back the once appropriated powers. In the fight against Poroshenko, Tymoshenko forms and strengthens groups of her future enemies. As soon as she will try to become the sole leader, the accumulated forces will be thrown at her and the experience gained in the fight against Poroshenko will be used [against her – ed] too. I.e., a confrontation between Tymoshenko and her nowadays allies is inevitable. And this confrontation can’t be victorious for her, for the same reason that Poroshenko couldn’t and can’t win in the Ukrainian political struggle. Everyone unites against him like they would against a political figure that is too strong, but it is impossible for him to win against all of them.
Thus, the Ukrainian political elite, continuing the internecine fight, leads matters towards the further disintegration of the State and to its own self-destruction. It is already too late to transform Ukraine into a federal republic. The economy that united it has been destroyed. Regions become more and more autarkical, and the capital (the central power) doesn’t give them anything besides problems. In these conditions, the mobilisation of regional elites for the fight against Poroshenko threatens to become a critical turn during which the regional elites will finally gain awareness of their interests, will study joint actions, and will gain a successful fighting experience. Further, it’s not important what the central power will be called. Regardless of its title, it will be hated by regions anyway (either with a hair braid [Tymoshenko – ed] or in a wrinkled suit [Poroshenko – ed]).
Thus, since 2014 the elite groups that lost out have become not opposition, but emigrants (Azarov), prisoners (Efremov), or ended up in the cemetery (where they tried to send Yanukovych during his epic fleeing). I.e., every new conflict leads to a reduction in the ranks of the traditional elite and the exhaustion of its forces, while the Nazis cultivated by the country breathe down their neck, aspiring to become the new elite. At the present moment these militants are used in the intra-elite infighting. But they are also quite capable of becoming aware of their own interests and possibilities. Especially as they will soon gain the experience of acting on the side of the regional elite against President Poroshenko. The power of oligarchs is de-sacralized. And there aren’t any other applicants for national power in Ukraine. The economic base of the national power has been destroyed.
Now, the most important thing is that the complete collapse doesn’t arrive before the end of the year. Gas pipelines will still work for some time, and in 2019 “Nord Stream-2” will be put into operation, after which the value of Ukraine will in every sense be reduced to zero.
Excellent explanation of the current power structure and struggles in Ukraine. It gives a preview of what is to come. We all always knew Ukraine would fail after the coup and now the future is coming into focus.
I agree that the end of the transit contract will be the straw that break the back of Ukraine. Frankly, I’m surprised to see that Nord Stream 2 looks to be a fait accompli despite the efforts of the Baltics, Poland and the US. Everyone knew what Nord Stream 2 would do to Ukraine and yet it’s being completed. Obviously Germany has had enough of the Ukro-crazies in Kiev for some time and made the conscious decision, along with Russia, to deal a death blow to the current Ukrainian ‘government’.
Ukraine has become the proverbial tar baby that Germany and Russia, at least, have found a solvent for. This (the descent of Ukraine along with the completion of Nord Stream 2) will be revisited as the realization of what is coming takes hold and creates it’s own gravity.
The silver lining to this is that, as the prospects associated with Nord Stream 2 loom larger over the Ukrainian landscape, the prospects of a renewed offensive against Donbas dim. It’s unlikely to be a game changer at this point anyway and attempting it could expose Poroshenko to risks he politically cannot take. He’s at a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” moment.
Germany does not seem to be willing to pay an extra premium on its energy bills in order to help the fascists in Ukraine. They don’t view the current situation as being reliable. And when you live in a cold climate you don’t really like the notion of having ‘unreliability’ connected to your ability to heat your homes and factories. Thus, one of the major mistakes the Ukrainian leadership has made is this constant fighting with Russia and Gazprom that has in its result made this route seem unreliable to the Germans and others.
The only other option is the one that the bully power of Wall Street is trying to force on Europe with expensive LNG shipped across the ocean. Germany is not willing to pay that extra cost. Which would be quite high since heating costs are always too high in cold places to begin with and no one ever wants to see them double or triple.
A German government that made its people and its industries pay much higher energy bills to support a political project like the anti-Russian project in Ukraine would not stay in power for very long. When the Obama crew was pushing for this as a new part of their ‘poke the Russian bear with a stick’ program, the Germans were willing to go along and not start a fight with the US over it. But now under Trump the US is starting many fights with the Germans now, and paying extra to support this corrupt enterprise doesn’t seem like such a good idea if the Americans are going to be fighting them all the time regardless.
Would it not be simpler merely to reverse the most hairbrained of all the “hair brained schemes” which lost Kruschev the Leadership of the USSR? Simply return the West Ukraina to its original self, Russia? Let Russia rebuild industry in the Ukraina, and reinstate holy Kiev as the ancient mother city of Russia. Restore the Dnieper to its natural state as a geo-tectonic boundary with Russia starting on its East Bank, and let Poland / Austria fight for the West Bank with picturesque multicultural Galicia and its vibrant Jewish population in Lwow.
Or is it the maneuvering and “market gang infighting”, which the author predicts above, an all too realistically human case of “Warum so einfach wenn’s kompliezierte auch gibst?”
Sorry to be pedantic but that’s harebrained (as in the rodent) not hairbrained.
Thanks, Francis Lee, you relieved me from a lifetime of error. Never having had the good fortune to see the Mad March Hare leaping about in the green fields, I assumed that “hair brained” referred to a person with hair where his brains ought to be.
And I’d always thought that when I heard ‘hairbrained’ that I was hearing an insult that bald people threw at those who had hair. :) Learn something new everyday at The Saker. :)
And while on the subject of pedantia, it should be pointed out that rabbits are not rodents. ;-D
Sorry too, but it’s “Warum einfach, wenn es auch kompliziert geht”.
@venice12. It may be a dialect thing; it was reputed to have been the motto of the Austrian civil service. I wrote it down as I heard it from my Jewish father-in-law, educated in the Polish city of Lwow while Galicia was still under the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I begin to regret the dismantling of that much ridiculed empire by the victorious Anglo Empire after WW1.
Kiev is mostly on the West Bank. The Carpathian mountains is Russia’s natural western border.
@Anon. Thanks for the correction. I remember Hitler sneering at some “not very high hills” as being insufficient natural protection for Russia — would those have been the Carpathians?
I guess you mean East Ukraine as in “to the east of Dnieper river”.
Except that it has a controllable populace and vast reaches of arable agricultural open space. Monsanto and Nestle,among others, wanted in to Krim pretty bad. What do they know?
The last sentence says it all: “in 2019 “Nord Stream-2” will be put into operation, after which the value of Ukraine will in every sense be reduced to zero.”
Ukraine could not and can not exist without extensive, read vast, trade and communication with Russia. Europe and US can wish, snarl, scream, wring hands and scream again all they want, reality is reality. However, over the last five years Ukraine has committed economic and societal suicide at the behest and urging of US and her main colony, but her grasping hands never quite managed to grab what her parasitical leaders wished for most and were promised, access to the unbelievable, they thought, wealth of western Europe.
I won’t go in to a long liturgy of what leftover Soviet industry has been willfully laid to waste, most everyone does, or should, know the list. With the willing hands from The West, the destruction, both physical and cultural, of Ukraine has been achieved, it is now undeniable fact. Because of her past actions, Ukraine can not be, and has not been trusted to be, a transit source of that commodity that Europe needs so desperately from Russia, natural gas and liquid gold. Tymoshenko and her ilk have proven too often to be the untrustworthy thieves they are, ergo the old saying is still viable: Trust is like youth, when it’s gone, it’s gone forever.
It only remains to be seen how much of what was Ukraine will survive the next three years. Regardless of glowing reports of the Utopia that is Ukraine in west media, people vote with their feet if the vote by ballot is useless. With the loss of all of Donbas, Krimea and Sevastopol abrogating the illegal actions of Krushchov in the early 50’s, and the hideous economic prospects, let alone the violence that has permeated Ukraine, real estimates are that Ukraine has lost a quarter of her population since 2013. Quite a feat in a little over five years.
With Ukraine in her death throes, all the toil, work, investment, war and trauma of the last century comes to naught. Ukraine will go back to being Malorus, the backshop and farm of Russia, in a decade or less. Yes, there will be promising attempts at industry renewal and some investments from abroad, but Ukraine is dead. Donbas is gone forever and Donbas was the industrial heartland of Ukraine. The divorce is final and irrevocable, and while Donbas can, and will, have trade and economic intercourse with the remains of Ukraine, the dice have been rolled and Ukraine as she was a decade ago is gone forever.
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Auslander. I agree with everything you wrote. The most natural way is to trade, make businees with your neighbour ie. Russia, the ukrainian politicians did thir utmost to severe any commercial ties with Russia, it comes to my mind for example the irrational of (if a remembeer correctly) Yatsenyuk who cut all commercial flight between Russia and Ukraine. One has to keep in mind that the ukranian politicians have never sought the wellbeing of the Ukrainians they are there just to antagonize Russia and do not care if this damages Ukranians. To me they (ukranian politicians) should be treated as guilty of treason as many of its oligarchs.
Thanks Auslander for your good summation – yes they have destroyed their industries and their only usefulness in regard to gas transit – will be finished next year.
After the ridiculous illegal Stockholm Court of Arbitration ruling in favour of Ukraine against Gazprom – which was over turned by the Appeal won by Russia – look closely at the country who ignored this – the UK – whose commercial court ruled that Ukraine could take Gazprom assets – after the Appeal. Forget Germany and Russia keep an eye on the UK/Poland and their flagrant attempts at influence. Denmark is already blocking/delaying Nord Stream 2:
The Skripals Case usage is now there for all to see – to discredit Russia at the OPCW (even though there is no evidence) and to drive a change for the OPCW to attribute blame – not the UNSC – to what the Western infested OPCW wants. Russiagate – all roads lead to London…..another false flag is on its way…..
So yes, the Ukraine is in their death throes but some parties will still try and disrupt the inevitable. Crimea is gone.
Yes Oscar, the Ukrainian politicians are guilty of treason too – but that’s what you get with a lawless country which murders its own people.
I completely agree with you. Ukraine as a “sovereign” state, and one which should never have existed, is becoming part of history. There is no way it can survive, as it has been turned into a feudal state.
The US made a huge mistake. In February of 2014 it applied the same methods of subversion it applied in Цentral and South America, concentrating on oligarchs and others. The oligarchs not only opened the country to foreign corporations, they are plundering the country, impoverishing the population. The US started a chain reaction which cannot be stopped. The bulk of present day Ukraine will end up as part of the Russian Federation, the former Galicia being the exception. The US, of course, did not intend it this way, but the US always had trouble understanding foreign cultures and history. Read my comment bellow. Поздрав.
And also, the 2nd part of the 1-2 punch from the Russian point of view.
The Power of Siberia pipeline to China also comes on-line in 2019, if I’ve got the name and the year correct from memory. It seems as though when Russia develops the ability to sell oil and gas in large quantaties to a billion Chinese, then the importance to the Russian budget of selling these to the Europeans drops in significance.
The Russian dependence on revenue from sales through Ukraine drops with the completion of both Nord Stream2 and The Power of Siberia pipelines. And the German dependence on the Ukraine route falls away from the completion of Nord Stream 2.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian government appears to have made themselves into a giant pain in the tush that no one wants to deal with nor rely upon.
Readers of this article should be aware that Fort Russ stole this translation. Please read this link for more information:
That is appalling – can’t say I am surprised though. So you are classed as a “guest author”. Taking your work without your permission and making money from it is unacceptable. No one should give the article on that site any click-bait. I know the Saker doesn’t want any discussion about other sites so I will say nothing more than thank you for letting us know.
I had been noticing how the Ishchenko articles have appeared there. Very strange. I just looked and noticed that Kristina Rus is no longer part of that team. I always thought of her as the moral heart of much good.
They say the revolution eats its own. Texas fights against the Saker. Fort Russ gets strange. We must adapt to these changes I suppose. If we survived the strangeness of Strelkov we can survive anything. It’s sad that loyalty is tested and even betrayed, but loyalty remains one of our greatest strengths, and pitfalls, I think.
Bless your team, and thank you for your work. I wish you would allow comments as guests for those without Disqus accounts, and I could tell you this directly, but oh well.
I will just say that I know exactly what’s going on and the timeline of events. Just imagine the most vile and morally corrupt scenario, and you will be half way there. We at Stalker Zone always name the source where we translated the material from. Sadly, some creatures think it is perfectly okay to steal it and present it as their own, along with the obligatory begging for “donations”. And about Disqus, I will try to add a different comment feature because I am aware that some do not use the Disqus platform.
Having read both this version and the Fort-Russ version, I believe these are two different translations, not a case of stealing anything.There are a number of small differences between the two texts indicating this.As far as translation quality goes this version is better.
All these sites deal with similar subject matter so cases like this shouldn’t be a surprise.
You forgot the part where the alleged “translator” of the robbed article admitted to me once upon a time that he doesn’t speak any Russian and uses Google Translate.
And he probably used Google Translate in this case too.I translated a few of the different parts from the Russian language article with Google Translate and the text was identical to the one on Fort-Russ.
As Henry Kissinger said, being a friend of the United States is dangerous, being an enemy is deadly. Both the EU countries and Ukraine are discovering this.
When it comes to the EU, it should be underlined that it is not a European creation as such. It was jointly created by the Rothschild/Rockerfeller banking empires, and it is based on the US Federation. Both the EU and US have central banks which are controlled by private bankers. The intent of the EU was to diminish the sovereign status of European states, placing them under banker control. The EU open border policy was introduced to allow mass immigration into Europe and undermine European states by presenting them with political, economic, financial and ethnic problems, as events have proved.
Yes, the EU certainly cannot exist any more in it’s present form. There is not one EU state where you will not find opposition to it’s existence. Back in 2014 some 2/3 of people in the EU wanted their countries to leave the EU. It will either have to be reorganized, restoring the sovereign status of it’s members, or else dissolved. Contrary to what has been stated in the article, I just don’t see the creation of a centralized Franco-German “Fourth Reich”, as that is absurd. Yes, France and Germany might launch some joint initiatives, but I don’t see France being able to do much, bearing in mind it’s financial and immigration problems, having French troops patrolling Paris (imagine if this happened in Moscow and how the Western media would react).
Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe, and it’s influence will be supreme. The Atlantic powers will of course try to subvert this, preventing a German-Russian economic alliance, a nightmare of Anglo-Saxon bankers for more than a hundred years. The mass immigration of false “refugees” during the past years was nothing more than an attempt to subvert Germany. Even so, Germany will in the end solve it’s immigration problems, which cannot be said for France. And yes, the article is certainly correct when it states that most Europeans consider the Russian military-political umbrella more desirable than the American one. NATO’s days are indeed numbered, with Turkey probably being the first to depart.
When it comes to Ukraine, it needs to be stated that there is no such thing as the Ukrainian ethnic group and
Ukrainian language. The name of Ukraine is derived from the Slavic word “krayina”, and it means “frontier region”. Ukraine was the western frontier of Russia. The first Russian state was centered in Kiev. Ukrainians are descended from Russians. The Ukrainian “language” has 90 % Russian words and 10 % Polish, with some Western words. The exception to the stated is western Ukraine, the former Galicia, which has mixed blood.
I don’t see Ukraine existing in it’s present form. Ukrainians themselves have admitted that by December of 2017 some 4 million Ukrainians have fled to the West and 4.4 million to Russia. Now 100.000 Ukrainians are emigrating from the country each MONTH.
Analysts are stating that the country might well break up into three parts. As things are developing, this possibility is turning into the inevitable. The eastern regions will certainly rejoin Russia. Central Ukraine will follow. This leaves western Ukraine, the former Galicia, which will probably be split between Poland and Hungary. The new Ukraine (approximately 75% of the current one) will eventually become part of the Russian Federation.
In 2014 the US, a former colony, applied colonial methods with that coup d’etat in Kiev, using oligarchs, neo-Nazis, thugs, criminals and foreign agents. NATO grabbed Kiev and Putin grabbed back the Crimea. Both NATO and Washington have become Putins greatest allies without realizing it. Before they staged that coup d’etat, they should have done their homework and read some history. They started a chain reaction which cannot be stopped. The oligarchs and neo-Nazis have opened the country to political instability and plundering. The population is being impoverished. More than 4 million Ukrainians have fled to Russia, conscious of the fact that they are of Russian origin. The ones who remained are being reminded of this fact.
Finally, Washington’s imperial policies are making their contribution to the dissolution of both the EU and NATO. European bitterly resent the fact that a former colony has the audacity to impersonate Imperial Rome and issue imperial decrees, like threatening European firms with sanctions if they participate in the building of the Nord Stream – 2 gas pipeline. Washington and Wall Street, of course, are incapable of understanding this. They will understand it when it’s too late.
USA and NATO never read history. Mr. Ford said that ‘History is bunk!’ and they believe him to this day
On another note, why is no one here discussing peak oil. we are on the downslope of this and may run out of
viable resources in the next generation. Are none of the industrial nations doing about this and its implications?
Errrmm…did the Ukraine ever pay back the 3billion worth bonds thingies?
No, Poroshenko never payed his debt to Russia. In fact he has trouble feeding his troops, who are deserting in their thousands.
In that case I thought I had read prior that Russia had an option and could get Ukraine declared in default and bankrupt ….might change things for the better in the long run……
Russia does not have to do anything. Poroshenko and his oligarchs, backed by neo-Nazis, are doing a fine job in bankrupting Ukraine. Currently 100.000 Ukrainians are emigrating from the country every month.
The unity of Russians Ukranian and Byelorussian Orthodox peoples was a acepted fact in europe until the ‘divide and rule’ tricks started. They destroyed Yugoslavia like this, the land which historians of future will declare the worlds most successfull state, bringing peace and wealth to the worlds most violent area, leaders of industry and arts, market socialist economics and advances in living standards second only to skandinavia. Yet they had to destroy it, it was a rival and humiliated them, the Anglo cannot create anything positive, only destroy.
Anglo Amerika relies of Divide and Rule to maintain its power. Remember this fact when considering geo politics. Ukrainian heavy industry was the greatest in the world in the 1980s. Ukranian Antonov Aviation made the worlds toughest aircrafts. Ukrainian scientists led USSR innovation. North Ukranians were considered the most attractive women in USSR. Ukranian farms fed the central aisian republics. Now in 2018 Ukraine is a carcass, even reichskommisar Klimkin admits his country loses millions of migrants since Maydan facsist coup. But these pro western Oligarchs dont care. they will bleed Ukraine until no one is left.
Ukraina is beautiful agricultural land, which certain peoples wish for. Fields of golden grains for the Anglo Saxons bread and beer.. Peoples with a endless hunger, in mental and physical terms. Its clear most americkan and brits would be considered sickly obese in europe, 150 kilo people are considered perfect capitalist consumers, spending all their money on food, many weigh 200kilo or more. they eat three times as much as other peoples and use the rest of the world as their food store. This often is ignored when people talk about oil, minerals etc, but the Anglo Saxon greed for shoving food and alcohol in there mouths is killing the world. Every year millions of forest trees cut down in brasil and paraguay, to feed the endless hunger. We should all be angry, which are not part of those anglo societies. EU Russia and China really need to stand together and kick the beasts out, starting with the Ukranian Nazi puppets of the Anglo empire.
Fascism never has a pretty ending.