By Nat South for the Saker Blog
This article provides an overview into a deeply disturbing trend in Ukraine, one that started in 2014, that has accelerated and intensified since 24 February 2022. Extrajudicial killings, harassment, arbitrary detentions by men in camouflaged uniforms, beatings and disappearances continue to take place on a regular basis in Ukraine. Most of the detentions and disappearances are often carried out by the Ukrainian Security service, (SBU), under a sweeping repression.
While we have all heard about the egregious processes that took place in the USA, a witch hunt for suspected communists, better known McCarthyism, a similar course of action is taking place in Ukraine. The Ukrainian authorities and associated ultra-nationalist groups are after people who were not only very critical of the former but also the current Ukrainian government. Threats, harassment and calls for violence has been and continue to be made against those who:
- publicly supported the Minsk Agreements,
- are against “de-communisation”,
- highlight human rights abuses,
- advocated for a settlement of the conflict in Donbass,
- are deemed to be “pro-Russian”.
- Church representatives and clergy;
- For reading the news in Russia.
Add into this maelstrom another layer of extra-judicial repression, in the form of impromptu justice being meted out to civilians, bound up, tied to posts, beaten, humiliated and some killed as a result. There are simply hundreds and hundreds of video clips and photos showing these events, which are outlined in another article.
People are not only being tied up to street furniture as suspected looters, but people are being bound up or arrested for being pro-Russian, for not being able to say the word “Palyanytsya” in Ukrainian. Not every ethnic Russian speaker in Ukraine can speak good Ukrainian, and some have trouble pronouncing certain words in Ukrainian. People have been reportedly killed for not pronouncing the shibboleth word correctly and thus assumed to be part of subversive Russian reconnaissance groups.
The so called” international community” has expressed no interest or desire to take a closer look at this disturbing situation in Ukraine. Once again, the moral high ground as avidly promoted by thousands of NGOs’, think tanks and a multitude of reports, dissipates rapidly in reality into a dark void. The silence is deafening and all of them mute on the repression that is taking place in Ukraine, likely start the process of EU accession in June. Obviously, a highly repressive with systematic serious human rights abuses committed against civilians, by members of the military and police are not an impediment to being part of the European and NATO family.
Once upon a time, there would have been prisoners of conscience that Amnesty International would have supported and denounced human right abuses, now it is a case of total amnesia, right across the board, a deadly silence reigns over the widespread instances of human right abuses and atrocities, unless it is finger pointing at Russia.
For 8 years Ukrainian nationalists have internalised naked hate against Russian speaking Ukrainians and by default judged them to be guilty of being pro-Russian. Within this scope includes being pro-Minsk agreements, advocating for peace in Donbass or highlight human rights abuses. Against this background of feverish witch-hunts, any hint of the slightest suspicion of cooperation or aiding Russians is tantamount to a summary execution in some situations, or more likely, a beating and being handed over to the SBU.
A short list of those who have fell foul of the Ukrainian government and its policies:
Vlodymyr Struk (Major of Kreminna)
Denis Kireev (high-ranking government official)
Mikhail & Aleksander Kononovich (political party leaders)
Nestor Shufrych (Verkhovna Rada deputy)
Yuri Tkachev (journalist)
Yan Taksyur (writer)
Elena Berezhnaya (Human rights activist / ex-figure skater)
Dmitry Dzhangirov, (TV presenter, political scientist);
Yuriy Dudkin, (political scientist);
Maxim Rindkovsky (MMA fighter);
Dmitry Skvortsov (journalist);
Aleksandr Matiushenko (activist organisation “Livytsia”);
Oleg Smetanin (violinist);
These individuals and others are listed in further details later on in the article.
Remember these people, these Ukrainians who for various reasons fell afoul of the authorities, imprisoned, tortured, disappeared, or killed. Those detained are often put under huge stress, threatened, beaten, or tortured into giving confessions. Another aspect to consider is that many lawyers do not wish to represent these people, as doing so may lead to being accused of being an accessory and likewise accused of being “agents of the enemy”.
The SBU, human rights abuses and paramilitaires
The SBU has a history of torture, brutal interrogations, extra judicial murders and other violence and threats carried out with total impunity. The Ukrainian government knows this, more so since Zelensky, since he appointed Oleksandr Poklad as the SBU’s counter-intelligence chief in 2021. Poklad has a sinister reputation as the ‘The Strangler’ . He is known to have links to organised crimes and involvement in extrajudicial killings. This person is now a top-level official and just one of a number of decidedly highly unscrupulous characters that are law enforcement officers.
A glimpse of some of the attitudes tolerated within the law enforcement structures, starting with 2018, when an ex-SBU adviser, former deputy in the Rada, member of the far-right nationalist party Svoboda [Freedom], Yuri Michalchyshyn, advocated the following:
“To propagate a total extermination of the Kremlin vultures and ghouls, local traitors and turncoats, its voluntary helpers and accomplices — instead of “reconciliation” with the traitors of the Motherland and the enemies of the Ukrainian people.”
Another paramilitary group, Right Sector also has wide connections with the SBU.
SBU officer, with Right Sector insignia on 6th April. Notice the other insignia, one SS Galicia of WW2 notoriety.
Prior to the start of the Russian military operation against Kiev, a few instances of the brutality, torture and extra judicial killings were reported by a host of organisations, HRW, OSCE, Amnesty International, OHCHR and in France — OFPRA. These reports provided a glimpse into a situation that was overwhelmingly swept under the carpet by EU, U.S. officials and the corporate MSM alike. Most of the cases were connected to the conflict in Donbass, yet there were many instances elsewhere in Ukraine.
“OHCHR documented allegations of enforced disappearances, arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and torture and ill-treatment, perpetrated with impunity by Ukrainian law enforcement officials, mainly by elements of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).”
The June 2016 UN report noted that the cases of incommunicado detention and torture brought to their attention in late 2015 and early 2016 “mostly implicate SBU”
Source: HRW Report 2016
The SBU accounts for a large percentage of reported “arbitrary detention, torture, and abuse of detainees”, from a period from 2014 to 2019. In reality, this is a fraction of what took place, given the one-sided assessment of many of these reports in the first place. Horrid glimpses into these detentions were provided:
Several also alleged that after being transferred to SBU premises they were, variously, beaten, subjected to electric shocks, and threatened with rape, execution, and retaliation against family members, to induce them to confess to involvement with separatism-related criminal activities or to provide information. (HRW 2016)
Notably, during the Donbass conflict, the Ukrainian side committed extremely heinous crimes, such burying people alive, beheadings (as reported by Newsweek), pitiless systematic acts of torture, rapes, looting, on a significantly much larger scale compared to the reported crimes committed by the “pro-Russian side” also featured in these reports. On the flip side, the Russian side has also documented the human rights abuses and repression: report of violations from 2017-2020.
Tellingly, even the U.S State Department managed to notice and picked up on these disturbing aspects of Ukrainian law enforcement behaviours:
“UN noted significant deficiencies in investigations into human rights abuses committed by government security forces …into allegations of torture, enforced disappearances, arbitrary detention, and other abuses reportedly perpetrated by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).”
Source: U.S. Report
These reports made for grim reading, yet no one in the corporate Western media dare to make references to these, but instead continue to whitewash the hideous crimes committed by Ukrainian law enforcement & military units. The worst cases are carried out by paramilitary and ultra-nationalist units.
“No justice, truth or reparation was attained for any of the victims of enforced disappearance, secret detention and torture of civilians by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) from 2014 to 2016, and not a single suspected perpetrator was prosecuted”
The SBU has a harrowing track record of serious human right abuses, which continues today. Worse still, is the participation of the likes of ‘Azov’, Right Sector and others in the detentions and also disappearances of people. The Neo-Nazi group C-14 leader, Yevhen Yaras openly acknowledged working with the Ukrainian security service, (SBU).
Now, we are being told repeatedly that this is “Russian misinformation” by certain corporate MSM outlets or being told that this is not relevant any longer. As if this was remotely possible to gloss over or make light of absolutely odious human rights abuses. Washington, Brussels are indeed capable of doing, as they shown a long-standing ability to sweep under the carpet, Contras in Nicaragua, death squads in South and Central America, KLA crimes in Kosovo, moderate rebels in Syria and now Ukrainian ultra-nationalists. Mykola Azarov made references to death squads in a video.
These practices and human right abuses still take place on a regular basis in Ukraine. Details of arrests, detentions are always sketchy as legal representation is practically nil and no communication is possible.
In short, under Zelensky’s rule, the government agencies and others armed groups are detaining, imprisoning, and killing people in Ukraine. Anyone that criticises or is considered as opposing his government, any perceived actions, (current or historical) is duly noted, and thus is likely to get persecuted, detained by either the SBU or irregular paramilitary groups. The government knowingly allows these human rights abuses for its own interest.
It must remembered that the Ukrainian authorities have continued to use a database, the Mirotvorets (Peacekeeper) website, to highlight those that they consider as ‘enemies of Ukraine’. This controversial website created in 2014, under the initiative of Anton Gerashchenko, (the Ukrainian deputy minister of internal affairs). Gerashchenko stated that the site was “extremely important for the national security of Ukraine.” He then added that “anyone who does not understand this or tries to interfere with this work is either a puppet in the hands of others or works against the interests of national security.” 
The inclusion of details of individuals, recommended for liquidation and arrest, has in the past led to people, Ukrainian and foreigners, being targeted, arrested, and murdered. A Ukrainian journalist, Oles Buzina, had his personal details published on the site in 2015, which led to his murder shortly afterwards. All of this in a supposedly democratic Ukraine.
Remember that Zelensky has now outlawed all opposition parties —but not all, those parties who support him are allowed to continue, with ultra-nationalists & Neo-Nazis part of these political parties and who happen to be highly influential too. Facebook and other social media platforms also helped in this process by deleting sites and accounts of opposition organisations and individuals.
Top-level officials and media outlets are wilfully ignoring what is taking place in Ukraine, by believing that the Russians are far worse, in scope and extent of human right abuses, while at the same time sanitising a wide range of heinous abuses, disappearances and killings in Ukraine. Additionally, this is swept under the vague categories of ‘treason’, support for the Russians or “saboteurs”:
Case: Vlodymyr Struk
Mayor of Kreminna
Event: kidnapped & extra judicially killed
Date: 01 March 2022
Accused of: being a traitor and pro-Russian
Ref: New York Post / Daily Mail
Notes: Anton Gerashchenko, Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, announced on his social media account that the Mayor of Kreminna, Volodymyr Struk, was shot dead by “unknown patriots” after he was kidnapped from his home. He also added that Struk ‘was judged by the court of the people and called hime a traitor.
Case: Denis Kireev
A member of the Ukrainian government negotiating team.
Event: murdered on the street of Kiev, near Pechersky Court building by the SBU security service.
Date: 5 March 2022
Accused of: allegedly for having “pro-Russian position” and ‘ suspicion of treason’.
Ref: Times of Israel / Daily Mail / Kyiv Independent
Notes: gunned down while “resisting arrest”. Reportedly a member of the Ukrainian military intelligence service.
Case: Nestor Shufrych
Verkhovna Rada deputy (Opposition Bloc)
Event: Arrested and kidnapped
Date: 4 March 2022
Accused of: allegedly “providing Russia with intelligence”.
Ref: Reportedly detained by the 206th Territorial Defense Battalion. Photos + video clip of him being intimated and threatened.
Case: Mikhail & Aleksander Kononovich
Leading members of the outlawed Leninist Communist Youth Union of Ukraine.
Event: Arrested and detained by SBU
Date: 6 March 2022
Accused of: “spreading “pro-Russian and pro-Belarusian views.” and ‘treason’.
Notes: Currently held in a pretrial detention centre, been beaten and are facing execution on false charges.
Case: Yan Taksyur
Writer and TV journalist / presenter.
Event: Arrested and detained by the SBU.
Date: 10 March 2022
Accused of: ‘treason’
Ref: 70-year-old native of Kiev, an Orthodox journalist and TV presenter, “Pershiy Kozatsky”. Currently in a pre-trial detention centre.
Case: Yuri Tkachev
Scientist and independent journalist
Editor-in-chief of the online magazine https://timer-odessa.net/.
Event: Arrested and detained in Odessa
Date: 19 March 2022
Accused of: ‘ treason’.
Ref: No contact or information on his current status. Wrote just before his arrest: “They came for me, it was a pleasure to talk”.
Case: Dmitri Dzhangirov
TV presenter, political scientist
Member of the “Novyi Sotcialism” (“New Socialism”) party
Event: detained by the SBU (?)
Date: 7 March 2022
Accused of: ?
Ref: According to social media information, “subscribers denounced that an anti-Russian statement was published on his Youtube channel “The Capital”. He was subsequently forced to make a anti-Russian speech on camera and on his YouTube channel as well.
Case: Elena Berezhnaya
Sportswoman / human rights activist
Event: Detained by the SBU (?)
Date: 16 March 2022
Case: Maxim Rindkovsky
Event: detained, beaten and tortured by ultra-nationalist group
Date: Precise date unknown- 1st week of March 2022
Accused of: having trained with MMA fighters from the Chechen Ahmat club during his sports career.
Ref: Article / Current status is unknown although alleged to have been killed.
Case: Dmitry Skvortsov
Journalist and peace activist of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
Event: Detained by the SBU
Date: 10 March 2022
Case: Mikhail Pogrebinsky
Event: Arrested by the SBU
Date: 27 March 2022
Accused of: treason and illegal enrichment.
Ref: Considered to be pro-Russian as he appeared on Russian TV channels.
Case: Vladimir Ivanov
Date: 4th March
Case: Aleksandr Matiushenko
Militant of the Ukrainian left-wing organisation “Livytsia”
Date: 3rd March
Charged with “participation in the aggressive war”.
Ref: Arrested by SBU and ‘Azov’
Case: Oleg Smetanin
Date: 4th March
Accused of: passing information about an airport to the Russians.
Case: Vasily Volga
Former leader of the Union of Left Forces,
Date: 7 March
Case: Yury Dudkin
Date: 7 March
Case: Aleksandr Karevin
Date: 7 March
Ref: wrote on his FB page: “The SBU has arrived”
Case: Oleg Pankartiev
Assistant to a deputy of the opposition party “OPZZH (Opposition Platform for Life)
Date: 9 March
Accused of: ?
Ref: Brutally beaten during arrest and is still detained by SBU.
Case: Spartak Golovachiov
Date: 11 March
Ref: Managed to write on social media : “They are breaking down my door armed with Ukrainian uniforms. Goodbye.” Whereabouts unknown.
Case: Elena Viacheslavova
Human rights activist
Date: 11 March in Odessa
Detained by SBU
Ref: The daughter of Mikhail Viacheslavov, burned alive on 2 May 2014, in the Odessa House of Trade Unions.
Case: Artiom Khazan
Representative of the Shariy Party
Detained by the SBU
Ref: He was severely beaten during his arrest by the SBU,
The next day, a video appeared on social networks, in which Khazan slandered the party chairman Anatoli Shariy. Current whereabouts unknown.
Case: Yury Bobchenko
Chairman of the trade union of Ukrainian steelworkers and miners
Date: 19 March
Arrested by Ukrainian military.
Ref: A worker from the Arcelor Mittal Krivoi Rog company.
Case: Gleb Lyashenko
Political scientist and blogger
Date: 29/30 March
Arrested by SBU (?) and charged with treason.
Case: A German
Ex-journalist — Radio Liberty
Case: Oleg Novikov
Date: 5 April
Arrested by SBU
Ref: Managed to write on Telegram: “They came for me. Don’t think ill of me. Stay yourself”
As you can see from the list, the whereabouts of many are not known, actual accusations against them are not known either. Just an accusation, having your name on a blacklist can get you kidnapped, brutalised, and potentially killed in Ukraine.
Situation in Ukraine
There are still some brave few who try to gather information on the arrests and detentions. The increasing levels of lawlessness and repression makes it very difficult to collect precise information.
Embedded into the already volatile mix of state repression, Ukrainian ultra-nationalists operate outside of any legal oversight, thus not accountable to state political structures. Moreover, many had total impunity since 2014 and despite a couple of incidents between the SBU and Right Sector, they still have undeclared support by all levels of Ukrainian officialdom.
It is only to be expected that ultra-nationalists have taken matters in own their hands, such as the kidnapping, beating and torture of an MMA fighter, Maxim Rindkovsky, solely based on the fact he had trained in the past with a Chechen MMA club. Unverified claims made indicate the participation of Azov members in the torture and disappearance of Maxim Rindkovsky.
Other recent instances of the rule of the
mob, ultra-nationalist, territorial defense enforcers:
13 March, the house of Dmitry Lazarev, a left-wing activist, was burnt down, (in a village near Odessa).
16 March, in the village of Tomashevka in the Kiev region: Guennady Batenko, a priest of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church was kidnapped by an armed commando. He was released by the SBU the next day.
27/28 March: Slema, Cherkasy region. A priest is filmed being forcibly taken away by a detachment of “territorial defense” ultra-nationalists (Teroborona), along with parishioners who try to protect him. His whereabouts are not known.
Solely judging by the list as outlined in this article, it is just a little indication of the broader situation where there are hundreds of detainees in Ukraine, their circumstances and status hasn’t warranted the attention to make their disappearance / arrest on social media, their whereabouts are not known at all. As the conflict continues, the repression continues to build up against a wide-ranging category of people.
While this is all happening, the Western authorities and corporate MSM are completely indifferent to the situation and turmoil. The MSM are indeed complicit in whitewashing these abominable events. As expected, the West organisations are all too eager to publicise any crackdown of dissenting voices in Russia. Yet, they have no time or inclination whatsoever to do likewise for those critical of Zelensky’s government, state- repression that is innumerably and unrelentingly cruel, harsher, and significantly deadlier.
The long list of human rights abuses and ill-treatments by the SBU has been amply catalogued in the past, along with the assistance of ultra-nationalist groups, who are tacitly permitted to act indiscriminately against anyone they deem as an “enemy of Ukraine”.
The fate of at least a dozen well-known opposition activists, political analysts, journalists, politicians, and bloggers remains unclear. All this taking place with a cold indifference of well-known Western human right organisations and more strikingly, the Western corporate MSM, all under the auspices of the supposedly ‘enlightened’, ‘civilised’ Europe and North America. No one is raising a voice against these actions.
* 2016 OSCE-report “War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine: torture and inhumane treatment”.
Against the background of rampant corruption, by the end of 2021, Ukraine fell to 122nd place out of 180 countries in the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (Transparency International, 2021).
Kind of sad to think if Russia stops at the River, or old Oblate borders, this type of festering sickness will live on. Will fester and spread. Will live to kill Russians and Ukrainians another day.
Having lived amongst similar bigotry and hatred….one can think of a cure, best not expressed ….God’s speed to the Russian SMO.
Russia should try to curb it both by taking away their means to make fast money (that is take away the farm lands and areas with natural resources ) and by demanding Ukraine to officially forbid fascist parties and accept a “neutral” position (which should be constantly watched)
By allowing Ukraine to keep oblasts like Cherkassy, Russia will be giving away land/resources for the enemies of Russia (including the US) to exploit. The Ukie government will never make use of them for the benefit of their population, only their fascist elite + US/EU masters. In any case, Ukraine will turn into a mess of failed goverment + massive debt.
I think that, the only thing Russia should want from them, is the security of not having them send terrorists over, or using their territory to attack Russia.
It will live on, and they de facto get away with the horrors and crimes against humanity already committed by them. They must go into the así heap of hidtory forever.
I never thought I would ever see a group more intolerant and brutal than ISIS. From what I’ve seen these Ukie militants are orders of magnitude more brutal and intolerant. The CIA and State Dept. was able to essentially foster and direct 100k-200k of neo-Nazi psychopaths.
It’s more complicated than that. Russia now cannot leave any area they have occupied without the risk of a massacre of anyone who has had contact with them, as we have seen at Bucha. On top of that the bodies are then used to create anti Russian propaganda.
The Russian government is going to have to think about this.
No. They already knew, and they will follow thru with their plan. The West is so weak in terms of facing the “reality” of war whence, showing the carnage of war. The Russians have been prepared for this for a long time. They will not forget the Great Patriot War, where 27 million Russians & Soviet people died, and they will not let that happen again.
Hate to say this, but one will not get rid of the problem, until one gets rid of them all. This war is certainly not just about the Ukraine.
This stuff does not fester like gangrene, it thrives on intravenous infusions of cash – $5 billion as Obama operative Victoria Nuland clearly said.
Pull the cash, do a ‘Afghanistan sudden exit’ and watch the boils heal.
The best antibiotic is to show the NATOstan operatives tapped in Azovstal before camera’s . Or a mRNA vaccine – 3 stages noting variants that may sprout up. NATOstan citizens may even get long term antibodies!
We saw that last time when the DPR and LNR were forced to stop and accept Minsk. The Ukies and nazis never did anything to honor Minsk. The Nazis murdered Givi, Motorola and PM Alexander Zakarchenko. All good and brave men. The Ukraine needs to be shrunk to a much smaller land locked country.
The only person brave enough to point out the truth is Congress member Ilhanomar. Otherwise the so called excuse of a left in the usa has lost the plot. Russia had a legitimate reason to take action against illegal Ukraine government. I am tired of people sentencing russia to the status to perpetual evil. It used to be the Germans and now it’s russia. The people in both these countries are nice. Much better and more fair than the Israelis and americanzios.
Guys, you gotta see this: https://t.me/boris_rozhin/41424
“A Russian T – 72B3 tank shoots a group of Ukrainian soldiers point – blank . For what reason the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not notice the equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation – it is not known, perhaps they thought it was a trophy.”
See, these were the result of NATO trained Army…
«For 8 years Ukrainian nationalists have internalised naked hate against Russian speaking Ukrainians and by default judged them to be guilty of being pro-Russian.»
This to me seems to be pro-ruthenian propaganda :-) that seeks to minimize the situation by describing the fascist xenophobe ruthenians as being just anti-russian and just in the past 8 years:
* The fascist xenophobe ruthenians have been massacring russians, poles, jews, rusyns, at least since WW2.
* They have banner not just the parties that represent the interests of various ethnic communities, but also those leftist (socialdemocratic, socialist) parties that oppose fascism in politics and neoliberalism in the economy.
* The laws that that protected the numerous ethnic communities in the territory inherited by the ukrainian SSR were abolished for all communities, whether rusyn, romanian, hungarian, russian, greek, bulgarian etc.
In their apparent goal of ethnically cleansing “Greater Ruthenia” and aligning it with the neoliberal “Washington Consensus” the fascist xenophobes do not discriminate just against the russian ethnicity, but also any community or social group that opposes their political and economic ideology.
«The fascist xenophobe ruthenians have been massacring russians, poles, jews, rusyns, at least since WW2.»
Ooops that was a typo, at least since WW1, when Ruthenia became independent from Austria-Hungary. At the time it was USA policy as today to breakup potential rival powers as soon as they became weak (the first one was the spanish one):
“The new foreign minister Baron Istvan Burián asked for an armistice on 14 October based on the Fourteen Points, and two days later Charles issued a proclamation that radically changed the nature of the Austrian state. The Poles were granted full independence with the purpose of joining their ethnic brethren in Russia and Germany in a Polish state. The rest of the Austrian lands were transformed into a federal union composed of four parts: German, Czech, South Slav, and Ukrainian. Each of the four parts was to be governed by a federal council, and Trieste was to have a special status. However, U.S. Secretary of State Robert Lansing replied four days later that the Allies were now committed to the causes of the Czechs, Slovaks and South Slavs. Therefore, autonomy inside the Empire for the nationalities was no longer enough. In fact, a Czechoslovak provisional government had joined the Allies on 14 October, and the South Slav national council declared an independent South Slav state on 29 October 1918.”
Next is the Russian Federation, then China, then eventually India.
«An alternative solution was put forward by Zbigniew Brzezinski when he suggested turning Russia into an assorted bouquet of territories, even advocating for the dismemberment of Siberia: ‘A loosely confederated Russia – composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic – would find it easier to cultivate closer economic relations with its neighbours.’»
“Opening and dividing China”, The World Today, May 1992:
«Needless to say, not all these regions are like to have the same views on foreign policy questions. Coastal regions would be less willing to see relations with the United States deteriorate, or take a hard line with Hong Kong or Taiwan.»
That is just “realpolitik” and the USA elites have every historical right to pursue the isolation, surround and breakup of their potential rivals.
“For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences — either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us — and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both;
since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
Of course the USA political elites are very fond of “specious pretences” and I think that they *always* lie, as a policy, to err on the safe side, even when superficially the truth might seem to their advantage, just like USA corporate elites do.
Why doesn’t the world unite to do the same to the USA?
Break it up into small pieces, making it quite clear that if they ever try to unite again they will be Blitzkrieged into the deep blue yonder.
Small bite-sized bits of land no longer ruled by manifest destiny, rather constrained by normal human dignity and proper behaviour.
Let’s see: California on its own. Merge Oregon and Washington State. Texas independent. Ditto Florida. Six other statelets, none of whom are allowed to militarise.
Wouldn’t the world be a peaceful place once that was done, eh?
It would require Jake Sullivan to face the hangman’s noose first, though. Along with his other genocidal mates like Nuland…..
Briliant idea. Isn’t California already talking about that?
What about the UK. We’re in favour of creating our old kingdom of Wessex ie Dorset, Devon, Somerset and Wiltshire. Cornwall might want to remain independent but historically has close ties with Wessex and Wales, they should also introduce Cornish as a second language.
An independent Wales and Scotland and a united Ireland. That just leaves the south east, midlands and north and they can do whatever they want. The main goal is to isolate the south east.
Thanks for the information. Ruthenia was attached to Hungary and Tesin to Poland under the same time the Munich agreement that returned the Sudetenland to Germany.
My objection to most of the information and opinion being spread on the current situation is a lack of context. I will try to add more. The article references the “Galicia” insignia. Galicia was part of the Austrian Empire lost under Versailles. The Waffen SS units were volunteers, from virtually every country in Europe, fighting what they saw as the communist menace. They were not required to be “Nazis”. Given that the communists had starved millions of Ukrainians to death, including family, friends, and neighbours of the volunteers, why would it surprise people that many saw Germans as liberators? The current “Nazi” narrative plays into the myth of the “Great Patriotic War” which always leaves out the Soviet massing of the largest invasion force ever assembled, complete with defensive lines cut and specialty vehicles, to invade Europe. I live in a city with a significant “Ukrainian” population which has considerable political influence. Statues of Taras Shevchenko, were raised and used by the politically active groups as the basis for their Ukrainian nationalism. Bandera is hailed as a great Ukrainian patriot, and the anti-Russian narrative was always floated by equating communism with being a Russian. By the way, these people hate Poles as well, and the feeling is mutual. The only things they seem to have in common is that they both hate Russians and Germans.
I learned long ago, that whatever the official narrative is, it is a lie either by commission or omission.
How about this propaganda? I’m not sure who the intended audience is or who produced it but it’s insane.
“Now we are harvesting our bloody harvest ”
Commenter on Russians With Attitude says she is actress Adrianna Kurilets from Lviv
The audience is off course to Azov, SS, Nazi, other ultra-right fascists, plus to those who are attracted and the potential followers.
Its the same scheme CIA/MI6/Mossad use toward islamic terrorists, ISIS, Al Qaida, m.m.:
Desensitizing vulnerable moral weak people and brainwash them into believe extreme violence has a true and good purpose. Cleaning out the filth.
Straight out of the Anglo-Sax and Zbigniew Brzezinski radicalising playbook.
It is for Banderovites, modern Western Ukrainian. It brings them memories about good ole times and their so called heroes. At the time of Volhynia Massacre they were using primarly axes, knifes and sickles. They have killed entire villages. Women, babies… Didn’t matter for them. Ukrainians loves to deny that it was a slaughter. But then again you see propaganda movies like these, in which everything is in plain sight and looks exactly like in 43′ Volhynia. Back in 2014 on social media sick people like her, Banderovites, posted a picture of a cake, which was in red and black colour and on the top of it there was a partially mutilated human baby. These people are really sick, their ideology is straight from the deepest pits of the Hell.
Damn since you mention it, i googled about volhynia massacre and its totally f**ked up. Feels like the history will repeat again with these ukrainian nazis.
Former Swiss intel officer says Russia is not at fault in this conflict:
The Military Situation In The Ukraine
April 1, 2022 Jacques Baud
“Former Swiss intel officer says Russia is not at fault in this conflict:”
That seems to me a large distortion of his conclusion:
“we can naturally deplore and condemn the Russian attack. But WE (that is: the United States, France and the European Union in the lead) have created the conditions for a conflict to break out. We show compassion for the Ukrainian people and the two million refugees. That is fine.
But if we had had a modicum of compassion for the same number of refugees from the Ukrainian populations of Donbass massacred by their own government and who sought refuge in Russia for eight years, none of this would probably have happened.”
What I think he is arguing is that the people of the Donbass (and Crimea) are not at fault, and the Russian Federation was provoked by an attack on independent nations (under U.N. charter right to self-determination) in a mutual defense pact (under U.N. charter article 51).
“The Ukrainian artillery bombardment of the Donbass population continued, and, on 23 February, the two Republics asked for military assistance from Russia. On 24 February, Vladimir Putin invoked Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which provides for mutual military assistance in the framework of a defensive alliance. In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately hid the fact that the war actually started on February 16. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as some Russian and European intelligence services were well aware.”
Analysis blaming US and NATO for the war. Everything was done to avoid peace.
“jimmydoreshow Ukraine Russia War Proof Zelensky REJECTED Peace With Russia”
Baud is 100% pro NATO. It makes factual findings to almost correct, but he considers that Russia has not reacted in appropriate ways. A son of a bitch who has his pension as a colonel of the Swiss army, about 10000 $ per month, + his consulting mandates for Nato has minimum 1000 $ per day. Private US army have offices direct on the place of arms of Thun and Swiss pilot, very well formed and trained, were engaged as Squadron leader of A10 in Afghanistan and Irak.
I thought this article by Baud was an excellent summary.
What hope is there for this “wonderful country, bastion of freedom and democracy, worthy member of the EU” even if Russia wins and takes over the eastern parts of Ukraine? Who can feel safe? How have the USA/CIA/NATO advisers(!) been able to get to this overwhelming situation of hatred inside a land many Russians consider a brother?
Aren’t OHCHR and HRW listed by the US as Foreign Terrorist Organizations?
Zelensky and two Azov fighters speak inside the Greek parliament: One of the most disgraceful moments for the country that suffered most from the nazis
Already in 2011 Michalchyshyn threatened to attack Donetsk with a “Bandera army”, because a court ruled that Bandera is no longer “Hero of Ukraine”. The nazi uprising was called “Maidan” back then, too. People were afraid that this could lead to a civil war.
Michalchyshyn: “Our Bandera army will cross the Dnieper, cross Donetsk and throw out that bluezh…This gang, which has usurped power today”
Here is my question. Will this ever see the light of day? Or will this be swept under the rug so deep it will be forgotten about in due time?
Russian people will always remember and they do not forget and will never forget, and forgive the West for causing so much death until this day. People in Zone B will take notice of what is going on, and will never look back to the west again.
Once people in The West become inured to this code of operating it will be instituted in Western countries as The New World Order
«Once people in The West become inured to this code of operating»
HAHAHAHAHA! Really funny! So optimistic and innocent. Over the decades the massacres and coups by murderous fascists in Guatemala, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, Korea-south, China-TW, and the wars of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Serbia, Libya etc. have been saluted as great victories of “anti-communism”, “anti-terrorism” and “liberal democracy”, and only a few trouble-making nuisances have made noises against them, the rest of the “people in The West” have been fully inured for decades to “realpolitik” and often eager to demonstrate their conformity to the official line.
G. Orwell, 1945: “Victor Raikes, the Tory M.P., who is an able and outspoken reactionary, made a speech which I should have considered a good one if it had referred only to Poland and Jugoslavia. But after dealing with those two countries he went on to speak about Greece, and then suddenly black became white, and white black. […] The Daily Worker disapproves of dictatorship in Athens, the Catholic Herald disapproves of dictatorship in Belgrade.
There is no one who is able to say – at least, no one who has the chance to say in a newspaper of big circulation – that this whole dirty game of spheres of influence, quislings, purges, deportation, one-party elections and hundred per cent plebiscites is morally the same whether it is done by ourselves, the Russians or the Nazis.”
Before having your Pavlovian bell jangled you should have read with comprehension……..
What is happening in Ukraine is the Dry Run for what will happen in Western Europe and Canada – Trudeau has made a start – as has Australia – heavy-handed policing without legal basis – militarisation of police in Germany being the latest with military vehicles in Saxony just as in USA where IDF has been training police in “mowing grass”
«What is happening in Ukraine is the Dry Run for what will happen in Western Europe and Canada»
That “will happen” is very innocent and optimistic; “heavy-handed policing without legal basis – militarisation of police” happened a long time ago already, against any serious threats to the system, in many “Washington Consensus” countries, as George Orwell pointed out in 1932. The relative progressiveness of the 60s and 70s was just a temporary interlude.
The heavy-handed policing in Australia, unfortunately has a legal basis in our Federal, State and Territories’ Quarantine and Health laws. They give the relevant Ministers, almost unrestricted powers “for the Public Good”. It should be noted, that much of what people outside of Australia saw, was mostly in Victoria, and to a far lesser degree NSW. Victoria by name, Victorian by nature. Victorian Police have always had a paramilitary bent. The RAN allowed them to use the firing ranges at HMAS Cerberus, and a bigger bunch of racist, poorly behaved cowboys, would be hard to find.
«In their apparent goal of ethnically cleansing “Greater Ruthenia” and aligning it with the neoliberal “Washington Consensus”»
Put another way, I think that the model for the fascist xenophobe ruthenians is a vicious regime like that of Pinochet in Chile (or before WW2 of Pilsudki in Poland or Horthy in Hungary). Very much beloved by USA and UK governments of course.
It’s the East European bloodlands, don’t you know. What else to expect, from this WWI and WWII re-run?
‘Extrajudicial killings, harassment, arbitrary detentions by men in camouflaged uniforms, beatings and disappearances continue to take place on a regular basis in Ukraine.’
It’s just the standard curriculum of the so-called Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (a.k.a. School of the Americas) and its training extended to the other side of the Atlantic. Nothing new really, except that the institutional name may require some modification to reflect its current role in the whole globalization agenda — i.e., universalization of “The American Way” and all that it stands for, not least, of course, being its undeniably great cultural contributions. The domestic populace always seems to be the last to realise their own ultimate inclusion in that same agenda.
«The domestic populace always seems to be the last to realise their own ultimate inclusion in that same agenda.»
Oh no they do realize that very soon, that’s why most keep their head down or are eager to protect themselves by repeating whichever official line is handed down, especially in the USA and UK. I have noticed in recent months that even usually “leftoid” or at least skeptical authors and academics have written posts in which they take every NATO/Ukraine claim at face value and every RF/DPR/LPR claim as proof of evil, even falling down into anti-russian racism.
George Orwell, “Review of The Civilization of France by Ernst Robert Curtius”
“In England, a century of strong government has developed what O. Henry called the stern and rugged fear of the police to a point where any public protest seems an indecency.
But in France everyone can remember a certain amount of civil disturbance, and even the workmen in the bistros talk of la revolution – meaning the next revolution, not the last one.
The highly socialised modern mind, which makes a kind of composite god out of the rich, the government, the police and the larger newspapers, has not been developed – at least not yet.”
That was written in 1932. Things have only “improved” in the 90 years since then, with the short interval of the hippie years of 1960-1970, but then Daniel Cohn-Bendit today is consorting with the fascist xenophobes of the Azov regiment…
– Oh no they do realize that very soon,
Not easy when alternative news outlets are being shut down.
Roughly speaking, 50% of the nations in the world are run by deep state / freemason?
Osce report: ‘The Foundation for The Study of
Democracy’ (headed by M. Grigoriev) and the Russian Public Council
for International Cooperation and Public Diplomacy (presided over by
S. Ordzhonikidze) with the assistance of the Russian Peace Foundation
(L. Slutsky, Y. Sutormina), S. Mamedov, I. Morozov, E. Tarlo, D. Savelyev,
A. Chepa and other members of the Committee for Public Support of
the Residents of Southeastern Ukraine.
Probably people did get tortured in Ukraine due to “believed” allegiances to Russia, and that’s a bad thing, we should not be killing people just because we “think” they belong to some evil group. Important to look at the factors that promote this sort of brutalism against civilian populations, where we broadly associate people with extremist groups.
Looking at other sources: (Transparency International, 2021). Corruption increased by a (1) point in 2021, however it’s actually been slowly rising since 2012… Ukraine was behind Russia in 2012 but has actually climbed ahead now.
 https://www.defenddemocracy.press/killing-and-terrorizing-journalists-in-ukraine/ – this is a commentary, or a “community submission” from a frequent RT commentator so make of that what you will. It’s likely she is banned or on some list in Ukraine because of international relations.
Sad so many folks were killed off. I wish some intervention in the illegal coupe had happened all those years ago the sooner them Rooskies sort out their family feud the better! We regular Americans want nothing to do with such heated “domestic disputes”!
On a lighter note (not to make light of mass murder)
Here is an extreme case of disappearance!!!
NATO installed coastal defence systems and missiles on Ukrainians coasts
NATO ships have continually patrolled the Black Sea for last few years.
Extreme disappearing NATO ships and shore defences!
Does the US Navy not exercise its rights of navigation in the Black Sea anymore?
Not a peep out of the NATO coastal defence systems installed on Ukrainians coats?
Er, wasn’t a purely NATO coastal defence system, it is a Ukrainian system development using Soviet legacy stuff under NATO supervision:
“” The Neptune (RK-360) is an Anti-ship missile which entered service with the Ukrainian navy in March 2021. A Neptune Coastal missile Division is thought to consist of 72 R-360 missiles with 24 missiles being carried on 4 USPU-360 8×8 launchers, The Remaining missiles are carried by Transporters and Loading vehicles. “”
So off the marks in many respects, not a NATO coastal battery, as explained in other comment.
The US and other non Black Sea navies can only exercise the right of navigation if Turkey let’s them, which it doesn’t right now.
The Russian Navy is enforcing a total blockade.
«The US and other non Black Sea navies can only exercise the right of navigation if Turkey let’s them, which it doesn’t right now.»
There is a subtlety about that: it applies only to passage through the Dardanelles, no to presence in the Black Sea. Other countries could send their ships or submarines to the Black Sea by other routes, for example overland or by river. Turkey itself is trying to get around its obligation under the Treaty of Lausanne that is strictly only about the Dardanelles by creating an artificial channel parallel to the Dardanelles that then it could completely control.
Historically, Constantinople fell to the Ottomans because while the bizantines had successfully blocked the Dardanelles, the Ottomans worked around that by moving their ships over land into the Bosphorus.
Other countries could send their ships or submarines to the Black Sea by other routes, for example overland or by river…
This is something I’d like to see especially the overland one.
It’s the Montreaux Convention that regulates use of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits.
The Germans actually did that in WWII. Though boats were far smaller then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_campaigns_(1941–1944)#Germany
“This article provides an overview into a deeply disturbing trend in Ukraine, one that started in 2014, that has accelerated and intensified since 24 February 2022. Extrajudicial killings, harassment, arbitrary detentions by men in camouflaged uniforms, beatings and disappearances continue to take place on a regular basis in Ukraine. Most of the detentions and disappearances are often carried out by the Ukrainian Security service, (SBU), under a sweeping repression.”
This is called American-style Death Squad Democracy.
Death Squad Democracy is the type of democracy that America loves to promote among its neo-colonies and vassal nations in the Third World in general.
This is nothing new.
Throughout the Cold War to this very day, the self-styled “Leader of the Free World” has sponsored, bankrolled, or armed Death Squad Democracies in El Salvador, Columbia, Chile, Guatemala, Afghanistan, and many other nations.
Now add Ukraine to the American serial killer’s victims list.
CIA Stories: Death Squads in Afghanistan
“Not every ethnic Russian speaker in Ukraine can speak good Ukrainian, and some have trouble pronouncing certain words in Ukrainian. People have been reportedly killed for not pronouncing the shibboleth word correctly and thus assumed to be part of subversive Russian reconnaissance groups.”
In the words of Mel Brooks, “Too Jewish”.
This would have been avoided if things were taken more seriously. The operation should have been conducted swiftly and not at a snail’s pace. Russia wanted to avoid civilian casualties, but that has failed as the Azov guys and others are creating the civilian casualties themselves. War is nothing more than state sanctioned murder. Russia needs to go all in now they are not avoiding civilian casualties, so pick up the pace already and end it.
– but that has failed as the Azov
Russia cannot take resposibility for what others are doing
Taking full control of the 3 times smaller Fallujah took 1,5 month.
Russia had moped up almost entire Mariupol in one month. What is remaining is pockets of resistance in Azovstal and Azovmash. Russia will just encircle these facilities and rain them with the precise munitions and air bombs. They will wait until all Nazis will just starve.
So Russian army is doing things very fast and by saying about “snail’s pace” proves that your opinion is not based on facts.
Are pockets of resistance
@ Jose Garcia on April 10, 2022 · at 11:49 am EST/EDT
“Here is my question. Will this ever see the light of day? Or will this be swept under the rug so deep it will be forgotten about in due time?”
The answer to your question was provided by Paul Greenwood, who commented right below your post, with a few additions from yours truly.
What we just read is the grim reality of a typical Western-supported regime gone rogue, the likes of which can be found in Latin America (Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Peru, et al); Asia (Burma, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Viet-Nam, et al); Africa (CAR, Egypt, Nigeria, South Africa under apartheid, et al), at different times in history.
Ultra-judicial killings, kidnapping, disappearance, death squads, gang rapes, in sum, terror, are the weapons of the CIA/Western intel trained “security agencies” of the vassal countries under their dominance. Mass terror is the tool to silence any expression of dissent, and for that they have both the state apparatus and “unofficial” gangs, like the Ukronazis in 404, and the lumpen class, which in 404 has been freed from prisons and armed to be used both as cannon fodder and auxiliary repressing tool.
I am sure the CIA imported some of their taqfiri butchers from ISIS/AQ to train and instruct Ukronazis in mass terror tactics, on top of the accumulated experience in “counter-insurgency” (that’s the misnomer for their crimes) provided by the CIA/MI6/Mossad/Eurostan intel agencies in psychological war. Ukraine is copying the book from Israhell, and so far it has proven to be a good student. Zec (the prisoner) recently declared Ukraine is going to be “Israel in steroids” and so far his prediction is proving true.
The West has turned Ukraine into the cause to rally around their vassals in a gigantic Russophobic campaign with the sole goal of destroying Russia, therefore, Ukraine can do no wrong. All human and civil rights violations are justified as “defense” against the “monstrous” attack of the Russians against “innocent, democratic, and defenseless” Ukraine. Israhell has been for decades a land carrier from which the US/West have launched their criminal policies to control and subjugate the ME, they had the same designs for Ukraine in Eastern Eurostan, aimed at Russia.
Same way the West aides and abets Israhell in their crimes against the Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian, Yemeni, and other peoples, it is now doing the same with 404, allowing Ukronazis to terrorize and subject their own population to their nazi ideology.
Hence the correct answer from Paul Greenwood, which I copy below.
@ Paul Greenwood on April 10, 2022 · at 11:52 am EST/EDT
“Once people in The West become inured to this code of operating it will be instituted in Western countries as The New World Order”
In the third paragraph I wrote “…Ultra-judicial killings…,” which makes no sense. I meant to write “Extrajudicial killings.”
Blame it on a fasting brain.
It was noticed but don’t be so pickish (deliberate neologism!). “Extra” got established b arey common usage but “ultra” might had been the chosen one. Extra=outside; ultra=beyond.
Cheers! You are not alone; there is a host with you!
From Russia Triune
A letter from the resident of Bucha.
Looting of apartments and houses systematically, random killings by the Ukrainian army.
( Machine translation)
“A cry of the soul was sent by the priest and asked to publish.
This was sent to me by my friend from Kiev, Fr. Roman is written by a housemate, and the priest himself had to flee with his family.”
“Good afternoon. I am a citizen of Ukraine, I am in Kyiv. We evacuated from Bucha on March 12.
Our house (250 apartments) is completely looted. the Ukrainian press accuses the “Russian orcs” of plundering Bucha, and people believed it … But a week has passed, and those single neighbors who still live in the house, in a whisper, after you swear by Mom, your health children, and all the saints, horrified by what they saw lawlessness tell the truth…
The Russians left Bucha on March 30th. And on the 31st, in the evening, the looting began.
A brigade of more than 10 people in civilian clothes worked, but they were guarded and commanded by the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine around the clock. At night by headlamps. In the evening they brought 2 shifts. They robbed our house for three days (April 31, 1 and 2). All apartments were broken into and looted except for those four where there were people.
Everyone knows about it.
But they are silent. Even those whose relatives serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the police!
Everyone is immersed in animal fear!
When women come up to them, they bow, and with horror in their eyes, they begin to cry and say “Thank you” in a trembling voice, such a reaction. Because they know that those whom we consider ours are killed immediately, without warning.
Four out of six corpses found in the basement of a neighboring house were identified yesterday in Bucha… two of them turned out to be door installers, and two were locksmiths! This is the elimination of witnesses, marauders who worked for three days for the “commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine” !!! plunder by their own!!!
Now also, our family has (or rather had) a dacha in a large village near Kiev. I got through to a neighbor … the village was destroyed, every 3rd house, many people were evacuated when they gave a green corridor.
Only those who have a cow remained … our village was robbed by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which entered as soon as the Russian troops retreated !!!
Ten days. All houses are broken into and robbed!!!People are silent. Neighbor with small grandchildren, went to Malin, to his daughter. And he handed over the cow and the chicken to the care of a neighbor …
The neighbor saw that “ours” were even taking out furniture from his house and ran to them: “Boys, why are you robyte, are we our own?!!
She was immediately shot under the fence and shot … And her husband too! Why did they kill Baba Masha??? The world took pity and crossed the throats of the poor cows …
In the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that entered our village there were 70-80 people
And they all robbed and killed! Do you think that Ukraine is fascism? No, this is not fascism …
The Nazis did not rob or kill their own!
This Satanism is fierce, senseless and merciless!
They are not “ours”, they are nonhumans!!! They couldn’t help but understand that in the village, although not many, there are still people left … even though they sit in their huts and see what you have been doing these ten days with our village !!! the neighbors see your crimes .. Bastards
There are about 3,000 people left in Bucha, about 40 in our village… people have seen everything, and they know everything and will tell everything!!! You will not kill all the witnesses of your fierce Satanism? And even if you return, you will not kill everyone! The people cannot be killed…
Thank God that it occurred to someone to withdraw the Russian troops from Kyiv… This decision is God’s admonition… It put everything in its place…
And most importantly. Over the past three weeks, our family has lost everything: the apartment that we paid for 17 years, we built the dacha for 20 years, investing our souls, the car – everything … But, Thank God, the children survived.
I still have trousers, shoes, a shirt and only cowards… I’ll survive it… Because I had a Dream… that the “Russian orcs” will be given by God, will return to my beloved Kiev, to my Bucha, to my village, and I will be able to sign up for to liberate my Batkivshchyna, my homeland from the fierce satanism that tormented our house in Bucha for three days, and tortured my beloved village for ten days…
Please, “Russian Orcs”, Dear Christ!
Please publish my letter. I am now in Kyiv, and I cannot announce it myself.”
@ ka on April 10, 2022 · at 1:43 pm EST/EDT
“From Russia Triune”
I can feel your pain, the sheer shock horror you’re sharing with us, most of it cannot be put in words.
The accursed who have been committing these crimes against humanity are already living in their own hell.
As someone who lost friends, family, and property in another country, another war, same nazi-fascists, I understand your predicament.
You can count your blessings for being alive, having your children with you.
Forget about the Dacha, forget about material things, they can be rebuilt, or not, they are not as precious as human life.
May Allah (SWA) bless, protect, and provide for you and yours, and the survivors of your community, you will all be in our prayers.
Yes. Strange “Nazis” that work for Jews.
“Do you think that Ukraine is fascism? No, this is not fascism…The Nazis did not rob or kill their own!”
Thank you, that’s what I am constantly saying!
No real Nazi would have ever bend the knee to the US in order to achieve national political success.
No mention of Natalia Vitrenko of the Ukraine PSPU :
Ukraine’s Role in Present World Affairs
“The following is the edited transcript of the presentation by Dr. Natalia Vitrenko to Panel One of the Schiller Institute conference, “100 Seconds to Midnight on the Doomsday Clock: We Need a New Security Architecture!” on February 19, 2022. Dr. Vitrenko is the leader of the Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine.””
Also survived a grenade attack by Kiev extremists.
Dr. Vitrenko provides a strategic insight.
This was written by EIR in 2014:
British Imperial Project in Ukraine: Violent Coup, Fascist Axioms, Neo-Nazis
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
Looks a lot like Bolsheviks are running Ukraine.
What you wrote is a historical aberration.
Bolsheviks have nothing to do with neo-nazis.
Your sense of history comes from a nazi perspective.
Bolsheviks and Nazis/neo-Nazis were/are Russian-haters and Russian-killers and had support and financing from the west, so they do have major similarities. They were/are tools of terror and destruction against Russia and Russians.
The storm clouds are gathering, lightning can be seen in the distance, soon a great roar and a shaking of the ground will ensue as even brick houses crack under the strain of movement.
Then, just before the outcome, a silence, a silent night of sorts, to sleep the night away, forget the storm, and wake in the morning to my usual bliss.
Even a neutral, disarmed and denazified rump Ukraine is not finished business. Re-education camps all over Ukraine would be needed for a generation to come to straighten them out.
When the Ukrainians whine and sputter about the damage done to them under the Soviet Union they have to be reminded that Hrushchev and Brejnev were Ukrainians as was a sizable contingent of CHEKA, NKVD and gulag enforcers.
If scores would have to be settled on ethnic lines the Georgians should be culpable for Stalin, the Poles for Dzerzhinski and Ilya Ehrenburg’s tribe for just about everything else.
Nothing “disturbing” about these events whatsoever. They are an intrinsic part of the final solution.
I will leave to the reader to understand what that means.
Disturbing indeed–and meticulously documented. But hardly unexpected or unprecedented. Nazis hardly need tutelage in murder, intimidation or terror, but this is standard operating procedure for The Empire and may not even reach honorable (dishonorable?) mention when compared to the depredations of The Empire in Indonesia (2 million murdered) and Latin America. Recommend the book “The Jakarta Method” to understand murder and terror as a primary pillar of The Empire’s power.
“Jakarta is coming…” it is a codeword for the de-humanised endgame beyond the “New Normal” and has been running as a live simulation in Jakarta for many years already. If you care to understand the future that is intended for you and all your future descendants, then even better than reading the book about the Jakarta Codename – visit the place and witness it up close and personal. Do not risk telling the residents that there is a better world than their everyday squalor, they will not take it kindly.
One of the most disturbing things is the Russians/DPR/Chechens telling the Ukies to pick up their or retrieve their dead and the Ukies/Nazis not retrieving their dead.
I also saw a video on Intel Slava (great coverage) on Telegram. Some Ukie soldiers surrendered at night ne Mariupol. One Ukie had a little dog on a rope. The Russians or DPR let him keep the dog and the prisoners were marched away with the dog on a rope/leash.
I pray that the honorable Ukies surrender as soon as possible and the Nazis commit suicide.
I’m sure Russia has a list of all SBU officers, their Azov associates and commanders. Once the fighting is over, one of the next phases is hunting down these criminals, putting them on trial and publicly executing them if guilty. Those who escape conviction should never hold a Govt job, and should be confined to one region to never travel anywhere else.
“I’m sure Russia has a list of all SBU officers, their Azov associates and commanders. Once the fighting is over, one of the next phases is hunting down these criminals, putting them on trial and publicly executing them if guilty. Those who escape conviction should never hold a Govt job, and should be confined to one region to never travel anywhere else.”
not just them but their families too, they are clearly all genetically defective. it has to stop.
the USSR was too mild and let the descendants of Ukie Nazis live. These are in Mariupol today.
Also in the West, Ukraine is just the 1st phase of a much broader phase.
Much more war will come.
Russia does not have a death penalty, though after these atrocities, that may well change. The Donbas Republics do have the death penalty, so all trials should occur in the Donbas Republics.
Russia will be stuck with Ukraine as its the only way to keep the US and Israel from taking it over again. Teo Jewish presidents of Ukraine in a row. Its Israel 2.0. A base from which the Jews intend to wipe out all gentiles.
You repeat bottomline in Mein Kampf
Once the Donbass army of Ukraine is destroyed, Russia should advance along the entirety of the Dnepr river and send one missile into downtown Lvov – directly onto the statue of Stephen Bandera. Do it at night; no casualties, but a powerful message that the Russians are coming. Watch how fast West Ukraine empties into Poland, Romania and Hungary. Or, it might give the sane, Ukie military commanders still alive an option for ending this war and purging their ranks of the crazies before west Ukraine is similarly destroyed. It’s up to Ukraine.
“It’s up to Ukraine.”
What and whom do you mean? I guess most people realized that there is no longer sane civilization in Ukraine, and those who are sane enough already left the country and only the unfortunate, the poor, and UkroNazis and its supporters that are stayed. Ukraine is dead on Maidan event in 2014. And, the only option for those civilians who left and wanted a normal life is to move to the DPR or LNR in the future once the matter had been settled, I see that there is only a hard path for Ukraine to be a normal a country in the future, and it is highly likely (borrowing MSM’s term) it will be separated into Pro-Russian and Pro-EU zones, with buffer zone in between.
Great article, I would just like to make a few points, with minimal personal knowledge of The Ukraine or Russia.
When I was 15 years old, I was obsessed with photography, and wanted a better camera. I had earnt a little bit of money, so I wanted the best I could afford..which was Russian/Ukrainian. The camera was so good – massive great lens, I also bought a Ukrainian/Russian enlarger so could produce my own prints, and take them into school. Still got them. Zenit – pure quality.
Never been to The Ukraine or Russia, though a couple of my friends have been to Russia.
The next time, I remembered having much if any interest was in the coup in the Ukraine in 2014, with most of my information coming from the Saker blog, as it is now, plus the likes of well you know the obvious like Moon of Alabama – Pepe Escobar etc
“‘civilised’ Europe and North America. No one is raising a voice against these actions.”
yeh that is because, almost no one in Europe and North America, who would otherwise have no interest, or even have any idea of where the Ukraine is, have been bombarded with the most intense propaganda for the last 3 years, first covid and now war, somewhere East of Germany, that almost everyone has switched off, and doesn’t believe a thing. they might send some money to Ukraine Charity appeal. They might even buy “pink floyd’s?” most putreyfying song for Ukraine, but that is only to ease their conscience. I admit some local people to my personal knowledge, are offerering to house refugees, and they do mean well, if somewhat naive.
Most English people are quite normal. We just get a bad press.
You also mentioned “Prior to the start of the Russian military operation against Kiev, a few instances of the brutality, torture and extra judicial killings were reported by a host of organisations, HRW, OSCE, Amnesty International, OHCHR and in France — OFPRA.”
I know little about any of these organisations, except that I realise some very good people volunteer to work for them – often unpaid, and do good work.
They have absolutely no idea, about the origins of Amnesty International, and its current control, and I sometimes feel guilty informing them, because they do do good work, and would not want to know, who they are working for ( british intelligence / cia )
I suddenly find myself at the age of 68 after a peaceful life, where my Dad, risked his life defeating the nazis, that we have gone back in time to 1936.
Who let the evil out again?
I blame the american government who are now totally infested, as is our uk goverment.
The difference is most of us English don’t believe them, and that may also be true of the French.
At least 7 million Ukrainians want autonomy or full independence from the Kiev regime. Thats the population of the 3 oblasts who invited the Russian peacekeepers in.
This kind of arrests, murders, happened after the US sponsored military coups d’etat in Latin America in the 1960s, 70s and part of the 1980s. Hundreds of thousands of good people disapeared. Ukraine is no different; just in the other side of the world, in the 2010s-2020s, and Russia is the real target. The enemy cannot get Russia directly, so is using a proxy. They will fail.
It is different in one way.
For Ukrainians, there is a country. Just across the border. Where those ostracised -just- might be able to live, er, survive. This goes for both parties to the conflict.
People from LA had no such luxurious option. They still do not.
Media and military experts said Sunday that six Chinese Air Force Y-20 transport planes landed at Belgrade’s civilian airport early Saturday, reportedly carrying HQ-22 surface-to-air missile systems for the Serbian military.4 hours ago
When i read something like this what bothers me and terribly so is O how i wish we in the Christian Church Universal were better educated in the Bible and religious matters. This idea of faith being seen as just a blind belief idea based on just conjecture is a matter that should have been buried centuries ago. It is a lie of unbelievable proportions that finds its greatest fruit in the above. There is no fear of God. No fear of retribution and unfortunately they believe this is just meant for the afterlife when all will stand before Christ. I’m here to tell you this is a lie! There are consequences both in this life and in the after life. In this life its called Climate Change which is not the work of industrial pollution but rather the pollution of sin. God is not an absentee landlord over His creation! All you need study is droughts both from the history of the Bible and natural history to see the truth of this. Or you can go here and learn about God the military commander!!!!
Or you can just pay attention to the words of Christ when He was being led to his death. Turning to those crying for Him He said don’t bother crying for me rather cry and weep for yourselves for if men do these things when the tree is green what will they do when it is dry? Christ knew the words of his Father about sending droughts and closing the heavens that no rain will fall!
But alas my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge! Hosea 4
It’s Russia’s fate to reclaim Ukraine. It’s universe calling for it. No need for Russia to avoid the obvious and keep on suffering death by a thousand cuts.
Many thanks for the education, Andrei.
After all, it’s in Ukraine, it’s pure Satanism. Horror ….
Well, you see that they finally used a female figure for their propaganda this time (….equality?…. remind me if i wrong) … Now, they seemed for me to have a complete mixture of every single US-NATO backed Terrorists ever since Chechen Takfiris, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and those IDF-Child killer, every war that is happening since 1994 in Chechen to 2011 in Syria reach the peak in Ukraine, the ULTIMATE MANIFESTATION of EMPIRE of EVIL.
The West is pushing the Russian people over the edge.
The current situation has very serious consequences for relations between Russia and Western countries, and for several days we have seen a huge feeling of exasperation growing in Russia. Not just among certain elites, but among the People.
The reason? It’s not so much that $300 billion was stolen in so-called “sanctions” that are actually theft: Russia can save that amount again in 2 or 3 years.
It’s not so much to want to deprive us of iPhone, Kronenbourg and McDonald’s, Chanel and Volkswagen: We can do without them!
It’s not so much to cut us off from Facebook, Twitter Youtube and Instagram: We’ll only be better off!
The reason for our exasperation is that Western countries are accusing us of horrible crimes, crimes that we did not commit. There was Bucha where without any investigation and while several elements already make it possible to say “We have nothing to do with it, see the Ukrainians. Russian forces are accused of massacring civilians. There was Kramatorsk where this time the remains of a missile that fell on the station square allow without any hesitation to say that Ukraine is responsible for the launch. Despite this, the Russian forces are accused!
All this precisely when our forces are making a huge effort to prevent civilians from being killed in the fighting against the Ukrainian forces, endangering our own compatriots! Ah, we could have, in order to make Zelenski capitulate, bombard kyiv and a few other towns for a month or two, destroying everything and killing everyone without sending a single one of our Men into battle! We would have avoided the losses we had! Yes we could have done this like NATO did in Baghdag. In Tripoli. In Belgrade! Killing tens of thousands of civilians each time, while remaining comfortably seated in our armchairs!
But we are not the butchers of NATO, we are not the terrorists of Washington! We are Russia and fight for Justice!
This word, JUSTICE, neither the United States nor NATO knows it!
Justice is to ensure that the civilians of Donbass who for 8 years have been massacred by the Ukrainian forces and their Western sponsors, can finally live in peace!
Justice is that Russia does not have on its borders hordes of fighters led by madmen in Brussels and Washington posing an enormous threat even to its survival.
Justice is that the world lets us live in peace without wanting to impose on us their pseudo “values” which we do not want!
Justice is that no country, except the United States, arrogates the right to intervene anywhere in the world to impose its policy!
It is this Justice that we Russians demand today!
If, at the beginning of our military operation, there were “only” 60% of Russians to support it, a feeling of exasperation grows every day and more than 85% of us say today that YES, we must go until the end! The multiple “sanctions” in all areas, the vile accusations of massacres despite all evidence to the contrary, push us to the limit and only weld us together, forgetting our past grievances.
Today voices are being raised from all our regions, calling for tougher military actions and tougher penalties against traitors who oppose them. Voices of some elected officials, Deputies and Senators, but also voices of the People. Good people who are outraged to be accused without reason.
Because in Russia, when you blame the army, you blame the Russian people!
And now the people are beginning to show their exasperation with certain senior Russian officials, those who, for example, while retaining part of “Power” in Russia, hide their property and send their children to live abroad! President Putin’s spokesman, for example, became a target of popular exasperation after several dubious statements going against Vladimir Putin’s positions and while his daughter, living in France, declared herself “against the ‘Russian operation in Ukraine’. Some other traitors are not mistaken and have preferred to flee like rats, such as Anatoly Chubaïs or Alexey Kudrin, conveniently “went on vacation” to Israel! More and more voices are rising against this “5th column” that Vladimir Putin himself declared a few days ago that he was going to dismantle, and demand that the President do what is necessary to purge the Nation of these traitors.
The People want more, and faster, as it is clear that everything is linked: Military success without an internal reordering will not be enough for Russia to achieve its Justice objectives.
Do you know who, after Vladimir Putin, is the most popular politician in Russia today? Sit down and behave yourself! Those t Kadyrov, the president of Chechnya! And this is not a joke! It turns out that Kadyrov is currently in the Mariupol region and is leading the Chechen units into battle! It turns out that Kadyrov has repeatedly said that we “have to go all the way”, and demanded that he be given “carte blanche” for this. Well that is exactly what the Russian people think and want!
I have repeatedly said on various sites and on various occasions, private and public, that “the world will miss Vladimir Putin” when he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Read the 2 paragraphs above carefully! And imagine…
A poll that appeared on a major Telegram group this evening: “If the conflict escalates would you like Russia to use nuclear weapons against cities in NATO countries? Of more than 169,000 votes, only 30% say “no”, and 54% say “yes”!
Do you understand what this means? Of course Russia has other weapons, more usable than nuclear weapons and completely invincible at present, which will be used first. But anyway, do you see where the attitude of Western governments is leading the world?
Vladimir Putin has always had the security of Russia and Russians as his goal. There is no doubt that as long as he remains in the Kremlin he will devote himself to it, and will neither be able nor willing to remain deaf to the demands of the People! The cleaning will be done inside the country, it is an internal matter that concerns only us. But externally?
As long as the West continues to arm Ukraine and pay Zelensky to continue a losing fight, this fight will last. And all NATO countries provide weapons used against our forces. The Czech Republic is adding more and now providing heavy equipment. Not to mention England, always ready to add fuel to the fire to please its masters in Washington, which has announced that it will soon deliver missiles to Ukraine!
And on this point, what does the Russian people say? More and more people are calling for Russia to hit those countries that supply arms to Ukraine. Logical no? Under this pressure it is obvious that Russia will hit harder. And further, with all the consequences that will have.
While the United States watches from afar, Europe will be brought to its knees, battered militarily and destroyed economically by its own sanctions on Russia!
And be certain that we, the Russian people, will no longer have any compassion for those who, by dint of harassing us, insulting us and despising us, will have finally received a just punishment.
But what has become of the once proud peoples of Europe? Out of cowardice so as not to have to fight, they knelt down in front of pseudo-scientists, allowed themselves to be muzzled, locked up in their homes, injected with an experimental product; they allow themselves to be invaded by barbarian hordes and allow themselves to be plundered, raped and butchered while turning the other cheek; and today they swallow what their governments tell them about Russia!
Can’t you see that it is YOU who will bear the consequences? Your leaders will be well hidden in shelters or abroad!
You can still avoid this by forcing your governments to stop their madness. But time is running out. The situation in Russia itself can very quickly change for the worse. For your worst! It will then be too late to have regrets because we will not give up! Vladimir Putin perfectly explained the stakes of the fight that we lead (see the video below, in French) for the survival of our People. And that is why we will go all the way, whatever the cost.
What proud nations of Europe ? They have been doing the same thing all the time for over a thousand years. Who plundered Constantinople ? Who betrayed the Byzantine Empire ? Who did Alexander Nevsky fight against ? With whom did Jagiello fight ? Who inspired the anti-Russian uprisings in the Kingdom of Poland in the 19th century ? Who is carrying weapons to Ukraine ? Proud nations of Europe, or rather their “democratically elected” representatives.
Niestety Unfortunately, everything points to the fact that the governments of the West are pure, satanic evil.
Well said , always the Western Europeans.
Thank you, for your elaboration. I don’t know, if you will believe me or accept me, since I’m from Germany, but many of your points are, what I expressed 2 years ago. I was loved at, when I stated that we are on the road to the 4th Reich. I knew, all that stuff with mask mandates and lock downs, were meant to instill fear and obedience in our people and that was a far different goal behind that subjugation of humanity.
When Germany united in 1990, I predicted another bad end to Germanys new quest for a “place in the sun”.
What I couldn’t even guess was, that the end will start with a overhyped fear of a cold.I always thought, I live in a world of outrageous stupidity, but this mass of braindead zombies is beyond me.
Believe me, those people are not really evil, they let themselves scared to death, fear burnt away their brain, unbelievable.
….not loved, but laughed at….
Ok, but wasn’t it similar in Germany in the 30’s. Was it fear of SA and SS militias that drove German society into Nazi amok?
A realistic cause for fear, you can join or fight (SA,SS).
A completely imaginary enemy, is just manifested in believe, you can’t destroy it.
The only way to fight it, is through a strong mind and a profound knowledge.
What happened, was the destruction of basic knowledge about physics and biology.
Again, a physical threat, you can fight, surrender or flee.
” Was it fear of SA and SS militias that drove German society into Nazi amok?”
That was a myth created co-operatively by the CIC and others requiring Persilschein to facilitate “re-integration” into “Democratic German Society”, following the “surrender of “German” forces including the SS and its component the SD, brokered between Mr. Karl Wolff and Mr. Dulles in the Bolzano region on the 4th of May 1945, 4 days before the “Co-ordinated Unconditional surrender” which was agreed by all of the allies including The Soviet Union ” during the Teheran Conference of 28/11/43 until 1/12/43.
Until at least mid 1943 the Volksgemeinschaft had little to fear from the SD and SS; the majority of the Volksgemeinschaft freely co-operated with these organs and their ancestors from 1933 until 1944, which was fortunate given that internal police resources in the Greater Reich had been seriously depleted since many had been re-allocated in attempts to facilitate General Plan Ost.
If you wish to test these hypotheses the publicly available works of Michael Wildt and Gotz Aly with bibliography and notes may prove useful although extensive portals.
@ war is on…
I was deeply moved reading your elaborate, well thought out message. As an old westerner, a lover of Russian history, civilisation and culture who learned the language and spent time in Russia… I believe I do understand what, alas, all this means. Every single day it does indeed break my heart, make me feel extremely lonely, spiritually, with virtually no one to talk to about what is really and truly happening in Ukraine.
Indeed, what I do find disturbing, personally, is how fast Russophobia has become prevalent in the West, since February 24. Yet people here know virtually nothing about that prolonged conflict in Ukraine and about that country, except what the Empire’s fanatical propaganda has been disseminating through the western media. Hence, most citizens have instantly become unconditionally «pro-Ukraine», mobilized against Russia (i.e. Putin!…) like I have never seen before, from now on prepared to help Ukraine and the Ukrainians even beyond the limits of what may be considered reasonable. Honestly, I have never in my long life seen anything like it.
That is why I must insist here: please do not rely on westerners to «force their governments to stop their madness». Time has run out. It is too late… completely hopeless. WAR IS INDEED ON. Russia stands a better chance of completing its current military mission successfully than we do to stop western madness.
Today, I am sorry having to assert that FORCE rules supreme. Russia and its allies must therefore leave illusions behind and act accordingly.
With best wishes…
Long live Russia!
@ War is on
I would have written the same warning to the “Westerners” had I been Russian and had your talent, although I feel the pain, agony and rage the Russians are going through being vilified by whatever they do or don’t do. It’s historical, especially since in 1917 when they showed to the world that there was an alternative to capitalism. It was that alternative that saved the whole of Europe from a continent-size nazism; yet the thank you they got for their enormous sacrifices to save Europe was Churchill’s Operation “Unthinkable” and Truman’s “Broiler”, “Sizzler”, etc. to incinerate the biggest Russian cities!
“I have repeatedly said on various sites and on various occasions, private and public, that “the world will miss Vladimir Putin” when he is no longer in the Kremlin.’
I think I get your meaning: a Glazyev or other “less-prudent” VVP would have done SMO eight years ago and stop NATO’s eastward march?
Quite a moving message, war is on.
There is always a fear that the war could escalate and get out of control. Who profits? The financiers of the war and MICs. Who suffers? Ordinary civilians and the global economy.
Having said that, I wonder if there is no real response to Russia’s artillery might from the West, why Russia don’t fly a couple of Kinzhals strategically targeting the City of London as a warning to the US (effectively NATO HQ).
If Russia is concerned about the legalities of such an action, surely the UK are aggressors for the gact that their politicians are advocating a prolonged war and for supplying lethal weapons for the purpose of destroying are country that is acting to protect its Russian speaking people from acts of genocide.
I am not a lawyer but I understand the contect behind your message and the emotions that citizens of Russia must be feeling. The bully must be knocked down otherwise this mess will continue to fester.
It’s quite obvious what needs to be done about this. The question is does Russia have the political will to do the work it will take.
Separate the Novorussian areas from any new Ukraine. That will make it easier to isolate the disease of fascism. Join Ukraine’s economy closely with Russia’s,Belarus’s,and put them in the EAEU.Ask China for economic aid for them as well. People with jobs,homes,and hope for a better life don’t have the time or desire to look at fascism.
They need to ban in Ukraine all the pro-fascist and any other anti-Russian political parties. Encourage the pro-Russian parties.And pro-Russian elements to be local eyes and ears in rooting out fascism.Outside of Western Ukraine the Soviet heritage seems to resonate positively with a lot of Ukrainians.They saw that time as a brotherhood of peoples.We’ve seen video’s of the positive reactions in liberated areas of Ukraine when the Red Army battle flag was flying from Russian tanks. Cater to those feelings,and portray Russia as continuing that brotherhood.
Purge the pro-fascist and anti-Russian elements from the educational system,the social media,social organizations, entertainment, and news broadcasting services. Reform all the school textbooks,and books published,TV and movies and songs broadcast. It must be a complete purge.Not like that after WWII where many nazis were allowed to remain under cover and worm their way back into society.If today’s Ukraine is thought to have 41 million people (including refugees) we may be talking of 1 to 2 million that will need to be denazified in all.Some of those in Western Ukraine may need to be resettled based on the post-war Polish 1947 model. That seemed to work for Poland to break the back of Ukrainian fascism in their border regions. But that would be a last resort.Ban all Western Affiliated media and NGOs from Ukraine. If there are going to be Western Embassies in Ukraine limit their size and numbers of personal.Don’t let them hire locals that they can recruit as agents.And make sure their “diplomats” are watched closely for subversive activities.
It’s almost certain that reeducation facilities will need to be established to reeducate those infected with the fascist bug.But only for those who so far have not committed serious crimes.Those fascists who have committed serious crimes will need to be removed from society and imprisoned. Those guilty of torture and killing,some large numbers will need to be executed for their crimes.
The entire media and entertainment services will need to focus on the (re)building of the brotherly common relationship of Russians,Ukrainians,and Belarussians. Focus on their common history,both ancient and modern. And explain how this war was a war of Western aligned nazis against all the peoples of Rus.
Most of all outlined above must be done by pro-Russian Ukrainians strengthened by Russian helpers.It may take an entire generation to undo the damage done to Ukraine by the West and their local nazi minions. But that must be accepted and the hard work put in to prevent a nazified Ukraine from ever coming back to plague the Ukrainian and Russian people.It took the West decades to build up enough subversive elements to infect Ukraine. This war should eliminate some numbers of them,but there will still be some numbers left that will need to be dealt with if there is to be peace again.
“Some of those in Western Ukraine may need to be resettled based on the post-war Polish 1947 model. That seemed to work for Poland to break the back of Ukrainian fascism in their border regions. ”
Not really Uncle Bob. In the areas where the Ukrainian minority was resettled, they formed a strong diaspora, supporting each other, which after 1989, i.e. after the fall of the so-called communism, started to penetrate more and more into the Polish authorities. The reluctance to condemn the Volhynian massacre, the turning a blind eye to the Bandera monuments on Poland’s eastern border, and finally, the unconditional support for the putsch in Maydan and the current support for Ukraine all testify to the enormous influence of the Ukrainian diaspora on the government in Warsaw.
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“The reluctance to condemn the Volhynian massacre, the turning a blind eye to the Bandera monuments on Poland’s eastern border, and finally, the unconditional support for the putsch in Maydan and the current support for Ukraine all testify>”
To two quite different things:
* The desire of both sides to restore the polish-lithuanian-ruthenian empire, even if the polish and ruthenian sides differ as to who should be on top in the restored empire (thus the ruthenian-polish massacres).
* That the fascist polish “prometheists” regard the Russian Federation as their historic enemy as the fascist ruthenian xenophobes, so they are allies of convenience, pending settlement of accounts.
“a political project initiated by Józef Piłsudski, statesman of the Second Polish Republic from 1918 to 1935. Its aim was to weaken the Russian Empire and its successor states, including the Soviet Union, by supporting nationalist independence movements among the major non-Russian peoples that lived within the borders of Russia and the Soviet Union.”
Do you understand what you are writing and do you know the history ?
The Volhynian slaughter took place between 1943 and 1945. What kind of restoration of the Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian empires are you writing about. These are fairy tales.
The nonsense of so called Polish Prometheism was shown in September 1939.
If the present authorities in Warsaw act as if they were referring to Prometheism, it is only because such narration suits their masters from Washington. Such a concept for Poland and Ukraine, invented by American think-tanks, was the concept of the Between the Seas – a strange creation whose sole purpose was to attack Russia. An attempt to expand this creation was made by the Polish intelligence service in Belarus during the last year’s attempt to overthrow President Lukashenko
In general, it is a huge mistake to perceive the authorities in Warsaw as a creature that conducts independent, sovereign policy. They are vassals of the USA.
It results, among other things, from the intellectual level of those who have been ruling in Warsaw since 1989. Lack of Polish project of the future causes that foreign projects concerning this area are realized in Poland. Depending on which party is in power, these are German or American projects. The Polish nation, for the authorities in Warsaw, is the least important. What matters is a pat on the back from the POTUS or the German Chancellor.
“The control network of the West in Ukraine..”
Some would suggest this is an oxymoron on multiple laterally interactive trajectories..
As to attempted colonialisms your observation is correct excepting that “copy books” are in accelerated lateral process and hence in increasing states of ultra vires (beside the pointness), illustrating why some would suggest that your quoted assertion is an increasing oxymoron within interactive trajectories..
The attempted conflation of attempt/achievement is a facilitator of the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America”, as is we-the-people-hold-these-truths-to-be-self-evidentness, thereby self-obfuscating the agency and the extent of others.
“The nonsense of so called Polish Prometheism was shown in September 1939.”
But not learned from by many from AK and others strategic lunacy known to some as the Warsaw Rising from August 1st 1944 onwards until today which continues to simulataneously be protected and ocassionally weilded by “The United States of America”, whilst via Mr. Brzezinsky and others informs aspects of the “foreign” policy of “The United States of America” by the observations of Mr. Pilsudski and the Second Department of the Second Polish Republic including the efforts and observations of Mr.Jozewski in Volhynia.
“Such a concept for Poland and Ukraine, invented by American think-tanks, was the concept of the Between the Seas”
That was a construct of the Second Department of the Second Polish Republic in conjunction with the Roman Catholic Church in both Poland and the Vatican during the 1920’s and 1930’s which interacted with the Minorities strategies of the Second Polish Republic, which went into deep hybernation from 1945 until 1953 but started to gain perception after the demise of some “Oni” whilst attending a funeral as validated by Ms. Toranska and others, which increased into consciousness between 1954 and 1989 and accelerated from the Republic of Poland joining NATO.
“The Polish nation” is a constructed concept which you can attempt to define and spend the next few centuries dancing around, whilst others concentrate on different matters if so minded.
Poland had been existing formally since 966, when first king of Poland accepted converstion to Christianity. What’s more Poland had something called “eternal truce” with Russia for more than 200 years since John III Sobieski up to Augustus III of Poland. Peter the Great and Augustus II the Strong were actually friends. Romanovs even have used officially title King of Poland since the partision of Poland. This and more you will learn even from Russian history books.
“The Polish nation” is a constructed concept which you can attempt to define and spend the next few centuries dancing around,” What?
You are totally out of touch with both reality and history of Russia and Poland. Stop posting this propaganda.
” the Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian empires are you writing about. These are fairy tales.”
But useful fairy tales of beacon on the hillness, and integrated into propaganda efforts of “The United States of America” as more lickable/palatable band-aids to cover their motivations and efforts from 1919 onwards and the utilities of their “allies” in such facilitations, including Poland as eternal victim of crucification by “evil doers” for “Your freedom and ours”, in emulation of creation myths of “The United States of America”.
According to Messrs Kaganovich and Molotov, Mr. Stalin’s view of attempting to integrate Poland into the near abroad as like trying to put a saddle on a cow who is regularly shitting – a widespread practice in Eastern Poland between 1919 and 1939 and why carring a spade and sack was widely practiced – as “The United States of America” has likely found on more than one ocassion.
What I meant was it stopped the partisan war against Poland there. Yes some of them might still be supporting Ukraine. But it still stopped them from attacking Poles. And made them accept that they were living in Poland.
Yes, you are right, the guerrilla war was stopped, but that did not solve the problem of Ukrainian Nazism. It only put it to sleep for 50 years. The strong support of the authorities in Warsaw for Ukies is precisely due to the strong influence of the Ukrainian diaspora.
” It only put it to sleep for 50 years.”
You are mistaken.
Perhaps the Chornovil papers written by Vlacheslav Chornovil lately of this planet via
may prove of interest including its modifications.
As other people have remarked death squads are nothing new, they are Standard Operating Procedure, yet even the UK SAS objected to them in Iraq:
“Some senior British officers were unhappy at what was going on and the involvement of the UK’s SAS and the SBS. “Why are we helping to run Latin American-style death squads?” One British commander, himself ex-SAS, demanded to know. The SAS were, on at least two occasions, barred from carrying out such missions in the British-run south of the country.
Questions were asked about how information was being obtained from suspects in Balad. There was an unofficial inquiry into the treatment of prisoners at the base, although no evidence was found to implicate Maj Gen McChrystal. […]
But the reverberations from special forces operations in Iraq continued. Six years later Maj Gen McChrystal, by now a four star general and commander of international forces in Afghanistan, had received a complaint from the UK’s director of special forces (DSF) for speaking about operations carried out with the SAS and SBS in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile an SAS lieutenant colonel, who had served with distinction under Maj Gen McChrystal in Iraq, was told to stay away from the Regiment’s headquarters in Hereford.”
I doubt that in the current climate reports on the ruthenian death squads will be a prominent topic in “Washington Consensus” media though.
That’s a fairly long reason for Americans to “DARE” President Biden to visit Ukraine, isn’t it?
I wish that flatulent [email protected] would visit.
Nah, he proly gonna die from heart attack first before it ever happened.
Anybody backing the official narrative is an apologist for Nazi excesses.
All the sanctimonious and supremely hypocritical US/British celebrities who “Stand Up for Ukraine” do not care in the slightest that the entire southern/eastern half of the country has been totally oppressed by this fascist putsch regime since 2014. Donbass cities shelled. Opposition parties banned. Dissidents tortured and killed. Hollywood silent — until, of course, Russia came to rescue these poor people. And now the Hollywood celebrities and aging “rock stars” have suddenly become “peace activists”! What a disgusting farce! All the more reason to totally boycott the disgusting US/British “entertainment” industry.
Also, a few videos for today:
Russian Ka-52 helicopters destroy Kiev-regime military targets:
Strike takes out Kiev-regime BTR:
Elite Chechen troops show trophies after eliminating a group of Banderites:
Looks like all these crimes being committed in Ukraine againsts Russians and Ukranians will go unpunished and the criminals will flee and become heroes in the EU and USA. At least they must be identified and take them down by all means before they scape.
NATO, US and EU have invested too much in this conflict. To be seen to lose would be a catastrophic loss of face. I expect the hysteria and propaganda to escalate to biblical levels. Of course it is just propaganda, hot air, it is not reality.
This is the full commentary by Mykola Azarov, still on YouTube for now, comparing Ukraine to a banana republic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N47PLSYqm8U
The question has to be asked who will the west support when civil war breaks out in the Ukraine, and by the sound and look of things, this seems to be a strong possibility, more torment for the poor bastards.
Civil war has already broken out in the Ukraine. Donbass and Lugansk Loyalists against Natoist Zelensky Ukraine. I know they are now separate countries and good on them.
As you say , Civil war may break out of rump-Ukraine as well ,and I hope so, the more statelets it breaks into, the better. They have forfeit the right to a sovereign whole nation by now. I guess it will be between moderate but pro – Nato and Nationalist Nazi types.
Outstanding post dear Saker!
A Russian T-72B3 tank shoots a group of Ukrainian soldiers point-blank. For what reason the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not notice the equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation – it is not known, perhaps they thought it was a trophy.
Interesting article on the psyche of a lot of Ukrainians. Something that needs to be corrected. Read the first comment on the article too. It also has an important take on the Ukrainian psyche:
She the Ukraine
The USA and NATO use the media (psycho-social manipulation with massive and planetary coverage) and the Trrorist war (with anonymous attacks and deaths on a massive scale) for which neither Washington nor Brussels are Responsible
Military Attacks and Terrorist attacks destroy, terrify and KILL (in different ways) but Do not define who is Winning or who is Losing in the armed conflict.
The one that defines the result is always the Media war apparatus that is in charge of “interpreting and analyzing ” by the big chains and social networks the Signifiers and the Why of the process of destruction and human Death in the Ukraine War.
And that journalistic “INTERPRETATION” of media war
(not the real events of the theater of war) is what defines in the manipulated head of the massive planetary alienated the Perception (induced by brain manipulation) of who is Winning or who is Losing in the armed conflict.
In other words, the real Results of the military or terrorist action in the field do not win, but those who appear labeled as Winner (with large photos and titles) in the massive media coverage of the great international press werifiable reality say that Russia has already fulfilled its original Military plan to control and neutralize Ukraine as a US and NATO territorial base through its only media network that is Prohibited and censored on social networks and throughout the Comunication spectrum of the “Western” world.
I believe that the primary objective is to keep NATO out of the Ukrainian Black Sea
There are still big battles at a high price
but the loss for NATO will be catastrophic. (Odessa, Nikolaev, Mariupol
It also has to do with the Silk Road project.
Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia.
And that explains why NATO wants to place missiles in those countries. Russia sooner or later will have to disarm these countries if they dare to point missiles at Russia.
A good example of the hell of nazi ruled Kiev:
They ask me: “Why, in fact, didn’t you live peacefully under the Nazis? Here, our friends lived and were happy with everything, until the Russians came to liberate them.”
Good. I will show you one day in the life of a Kiev woman. An ordinary Kiev woman, because I was neither a public figure nor a correspondent at that time.
In the morning you walk the children to school and to the garden. Let’s say it’s October 14th. Cover.
– Mom, today is the Day of the Defender of Ukraine. We were told to wear embroidered shirts.
– Wear normal clothes. Defender of the Fatherland Day 23 February.
– And we have a matinee at 10.00, do not forget.
After seeing the kids off, you go to the grocery store. The cashiers are loudly discussing something in Russian among themselves, but when you come up, she switches to Ukrainian: the anti-constitutional law on the total Ukrainian language in the service sector has already been adopted and the cashier is afraid of a fine or scumbags.
You think: to insist or not to insist on service in Russian? You decide to save your strength.
Flying to the matinee. The children sweetly sing “patriotic songs” remade from Soviet ones into a Ukrainian nationalist way. You endure in silence, but even this is not enough for the “comrade political officers”: they announce a minute of silence for the dead “heroes of the ATO.” Everyone gets up. And you get up. And you understand: you can no longer go to matinees with children. Or we need to tear everything down here – this symbolism, these arrogant faces of killers from the stands of glory, trample on this flag under which our parents are killed in Donetsk, under which millions of old people have been deprived of their pensions …
You return home.
Then you have classes with students. Orthoepy of the Russian language. People are different. You diligently avoid “slippery topics”, but the very fact that now, when teaching in Russian is banned, you are teaching people Russian orthoepy – this is already defiant. Surrealism: SECRET teaching of the Russian language in Russian-speaking Kyiv, the mother of Russian cities, and illegal, without a labor contract, even without an employment contract…
Well, then you, for example, go to the Maidan, to the Main Post Office, to pay for a communal apartment. Krayina only a year ago, as far as I know, began to fit in a smartphone, and before that, before “digitalization” everything was the old fashioned way. And you pass by the squeezed-out UAOC St. Andrew’s Church, past the scenery of the so-called. “Mikhailovsky Golden-domed”, in which the nationalists of the “UOC-KP” dug in, you see Hagia Sophia, desecrated twice – turned into a museum under the USSR, and then used for pandemonium around the “Tomos”.
In the evening you receive a message: they are going to rename Vatutin Avenue into Shukhevych Avenue, and Zhukov Street into the street (calmly) KUBAN UKRAINE.
Well, my husband also comes home from work and tells how he was taxed for the ATO today and tried to shake out money for armor for the son of some employee … You sigh – and sit down to learn Polish with your son, which was introduced instead of the only Russian lesson a week language
Here, in fact, for those who have not lived in this cherry hell, a picture of what has been happening in Kyiv since 2014.
And this is not described out of the ordinary events, but only in this way, everyday troubles, which, however, when you make your inevitable coming-out, turn into a completely different form. They turn, for example, into 5 years in a pre-trial detention center with endless rescheduling of meetings, beatings, harassment, or even, which is quite possible, into your physical elimination. Unless, of course, you are an important bird and you don’t feel sorry for the killers from s-14. Well, or if they overdo it a little during interrogation.
Poor thing. Mindless Nationalistic Nazi propaganda day in day out.
Cellophane seems like an efficient way to make ppl overcome any reluctance to abuse a fellow human being.
Spanking used to be considered a proper means to teach your children obedience. and Ive seen (a video) of workers (in holland) mummifying a coworker with cellophane for fun (not his face, but he was traumatised). Pooring water over someone (so they go hyperthermic doesnt feel like committing murder either. so every single step feels innocent enough but the end result is ethnic cleansing,.. death by a thousand cuts for beginners
Ive seen this video today, (murderous Uki farmer young woman with a sickle) this is how the Ukrainian ppl are convinced to view all Russian speakers as the enemy, it may be intended to justify the shibboleth
transcript >> “For centuries, these swines called us maloros, trampled on our flag, mocked the language and created a funny image of a Ukrinian with forelock(called herring), lard and halushkas(dumpling alike). Being under the drunken hiccups and sounds of Russian harmony, they starved us, killed us, crucifed us in red torture chmabers, and sent us to the permafrost of the Siberian prison camps. They had been killing until something terrible awoke in a peaceful farming nation. Something had been dormant in the depths of the Dnipro cliffs for centuries. Initial and ancient Ukrainian God. And now we are harvesting our bloody harvest! You will all be killed in memory victims in Bucha, Irpin, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odesa, Mariupol. You will be killed. Your corpses, like the worst carrions, will rot in the field, along roads and forest belts. They will be eaten by dogs and wild animals. Your mother well be wating for you in Tver, Pskov and Ryazan. But you. You sons of the bitch, will never return home. Welcome to hell!”
I havent seen any videos of ppl tied to a pole being cut loose…
any guesstimation as to what percentage of these poor guys survives?
“People have been reportedly killed for not pronouncing the Shibboleth word correctly”
“Shibbol” means a grain of wheat in hebrew; sometimes pronounced “sibbol”. It got its present meaning because Gentiles used tho observe Hebrews doing to one other what Jewish-led Ukrainians are doing to each other today, over the pronunciation of a word.
Russia needs to make arms for self defence to anyone along these lines until the UKN liberation is completed.
I would take relatiatory action against UKN people on the opposite side of the fence.
Round them up.
My personal opinion is that this is all Stalin’s fault for not finding all these Banderists and killing them all regardless of where they were hiding.
I find myself asking the follow-on question as to how Russia plans to deal with this problem going into the future. The US is going to continuously, non-stop, 24/7, feed into Ukraine insurgents bent on killing as many Russians as they can before they are killed. They might not limit it to Russians but may just kill anyone and everyone so look for massive terrorist actions around Europe not just in Ukraine. This will be Europe’s fault but the blame will land on Russia.
IMHO Russia MUST take all of Ukraine and eliminate it completely as a nation. The ridiculous efforts to incorporate Ukraine into the EU despite their own laws which would prevent it forever need to be nipped in the bud before it takes on a life of its own. Only by controlling the entire border around the former Ukraine territory can Russia hope to blunt this infilitration. It is a huge task.
Stalin found, but Khrushchev released I think in 1955. From then on, the infiltration of the KPSS and Komsomol in western Ukraine by Banderist elements began. So what is in Ukraine didn’t just pop up like a rabbit out of a hat, it was there all the time, just in hiding.
“So what is in Ukraine didn’t just pop up like a rabbit out of a hat, it was there all the time, just in hiding.”
That is correct but within a limited framework thereby obfuscating how and why they were in hiding, and by whom and by how that was facilitated, some of which some is known.
These subjects with various priorities were consistently explored by some from 1944 until 1989 and subsequent.
That is a very complex network of laterally interacting vectors of facilitation but rendered more important for the recently declared tasks in hand.
«My personal opinion is that this is all Stalin’s fault for not finding all these Banderists and killing them all regardless of where they were hiding.»
After WW2 the borders of Poland shifted west and north quite a bit:
* north-western Ruthenia went to the belarusian SSR;
* southern Ruthenia to the malorussian/ukrainian SSR:
* Poland expanded into german Silesia and Pomerania to the west and Prussia to the north.
The poles massacred and ethnically cleansed the germans out of Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia, so there is now no ethnic problem there, but inded Stalin was mroe soft-hearted than the polish elites, and the USSR did not massacre or ethnically cleanse the ruthenians from the western belarussian and ukrainian SSRs.
“The poles massacred and ethnically cleansed”
“the USSR did not massacre or ethnically cleanse the ruthenians from the western belarussian and ukrainian SSRs.”
Quite so but why.
The Second Polish Republic was partly facilitated by the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 by Mr. Wilson and his associates to be a colonial project based on ethnic nationalism with significant internal ethnic minorities, represented as being protected by mandated obligations placed upon the Second Polish Republic, thereby further exacerbating tension and attractions of ethnic cleansing, in varying degrees in Central Europe including but not restricted to Volksgemeinschafts , primarily in contemporary Czechoslovakia, Germany, and Poland to undermine Central Europe thereby facilitating opportunities of control and influence for “The United States of America”.
Hence on the territory of the Second Polish Republic both Poles and Ukrainians were involved in ethnic cleansing and both some Poles and some Western Ukrainians consider ethnic cleansing to remain a valid response to some occurences which they both blame on the others not themselves.
The USSR did have inter-ethnic problems but from inception it was understood that the sustainability of the USSR was predicated on attempts at amelioration of these tension including by creating frameworks and norms through which they could be addressed without attaining perfection.
Some will likely resort to – nonsense why did the Ukrainians fight with the Germans – the answer to which is primarily those who fought with the Germans from 1943 onwards were former Ukrainian citizens of the Second Polish Republic, and a lesser sum of some were a limited number of Ukrainian citizens of “The Soviet Union” still alive and not in camps by 1943.
OUN was initially created in reaction to the ethnic nationalist policies of the Second Polish Republic which they subsequently emulated, not primarily by the Ukrainian Famine 1932-1933 which happened in a different country “The Soviet Union”, which informed the relatively recent motion pictures The Hunger Games and Mr. Jones.
Others may resort to notions of ethnic Russian primacy from 1942 until 1953 in the Great Patriotic War and the cult of personality (by an ethnic Georgian).
Ignorance of Central and Eastern European history, in part facilitated by memory-holing their complicities in it, facilitates/informs the present propaganda efforts of “The United States of America” in relation to the phenomena they seek to frame as “The War in Ukraine”.
“The poles massacred and ethnically cleansed the germans out of Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia, so there is now no ethnic problem there..”
You are mistaken that “.there is now no ethnic problem there..”
I suggest this will become more apparent due to increasing tensions within and in interaction by the People’s Republic of Poland and the Federal Republic of Germany.
As you probably understand the above is only a thumbnail of more complex phenomena.
“The poles massacred and ethnically cleansed the germans out of Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia, so there is now no ethnic problem there..”
Could you stop spreading Nazi-whitewashing propaganda? Is this some kind of new strategy of people likes of which Olaf Sholz to further Germany’s agenda? Next time we will learn from the same source that Germans were right with killing every third Belarusian. Last time some of you tried to push same ridiculous propaganda narration about Danzing in order to justify Banderovites and Nazis crimes. It is start to be disgusting, but perfectly fits for “Germany is now innocent” agenda. Yes, many Germans as a punishment for crimes of WWII on Soviet order were kicked out of the Silesia and that region was given to Poland thanks to Stalin negotiation as compensation for what Nazis did. Nazi sympathisers aren’t happy to this day. And I can only say, sc*w you, Nazi military had set houses on fire, robbed them and then send inhabitans to labor camps or concentration camps, and now you are crying for them?? This what happened to my family. And for that Germans were just kicked out. Cry me a river, baby.
“The poles massacred and ethnically cleansed the germans out of Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia, so there is now no ethnic problem there..”
That is a quote from Mr. Janek and why it is in quotation marks,and which was critiqued @Mr Bumble on April 11, 2022 · at 7:53 am EST/EDT
by the response:
“You are mistaken that “.there is now no ethnic problem there..”
I suggest this will become more apparent due to increasing tensions within and in interaction by the People’s Republic of Poland and the Federal Republic of Germany.”
Thank you for your own “interpretation” of the text and your reaction to it including but not limited to:
” Nazi sympathisers aren’t happy to this day. And I can only say, sc*w you,”
increasing the probability that ” this will become more apparent due to increasing tensions within and in interaction by the People’s Republic of Poland and the Federal Republic of Germany.”
Thank you for your efforts in useful foolery which in respect of Poland apparently has been a practice since the First Polish partition and facilitated the necessity of the invention of “For your freedom and ours”.
I just copy pasted your nick by accident, for which I am sorry, instead of user’s Blissex and actually that ridiculous comment comes from Blissex, NOT Janek. So ironically you made same mistake as me, but you are pretending that you have some intelectual high ground and your insults are valid. I doesn’t work like this. :))))
Do you realise that I could make similar remark about Gorbachev and Yeltsin and condition of Russia, when they ruled her as you did about few weak Polish kings and First Polish Partition? But I am not mean as you and I won’t make unfair jokes about some tragedy. Corruption and weakness in the highest echelons of goverment happens. And the result is tragic.
“Do you realise that I could make similar remark about Gorbachev and Yeltsin and condition of Russia when they ruled her as you did about few weak Polish kings and First Polish Partition?”
You are apparently unaware of Russian history from 1969 until 1999 which is not unexpected, and as previously illustrated you choose to invent your own version.
Mr. Gorbachev was rendered a useful fool by Mr. Andropov and his associates in anticipation of accelerating the demise of The Soviet Union with the minimum of blowback – perfection never being an option, whilst the Mr. Yeltsin/Mr. Zhirinovsky double act in conjuction with others were the front men who rendered tourists, such as Mr Sachs, Mr Aslund and many others, useful fools throughout the 1990’s, all as part of the continuing lateral transcendence of “The Soviet Union” by the present Russian Federation with the minimum temporary blowback, which in various forms enjoyed/enjoys the co-operation of many millions of people, and the complicity of many millions of other people dependent on their “own” versions of history.
Thank you for your service in complicity.
You are just one smirky fellow, who has no clue about history and you make stuff all the time. I was quoting directly from Putin:
“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory.
“The epidemic of collapse has spilled over to Russia itself,” he said, referring to separatist movements such as those in Chechnya.”
Minimum temporary blowback? Are you kidding with me? Putin talks about greatest geopolitical tragedy of the century. Only thanks to Putin and years of work of his advisors Russia has bearly survived. Economic and military collapse which lead to separatism and uncontrolable grow of NATO. People left without pensions etc.
You also giving your meaningless opinion that Gorbachev was useful fool of the Andropov. This is not historical fact, but some conspriacy theory you made up. Thank you for proving that you have no clue whatsoever about Russia and Poland history. Minimum temporary blowback :))) Are you drank?
No personal attacks. Off-topic too. Further comments will go to trash.
“That is a quote from Mr. Janek and why it is in quotation marks,and which was critiqued @Mr Bumble on April 11, 2022 · at 7:53 am EST/EDT”
This how you invent your own version. You are making detailed explanation about your post being addressed to someone else.to prove your “intelectual superiority”. You aren’t even aware that you have been talking with Blissex. :))))) What was that effort for?
When I at the same time made simple copy-paste mistake.
“What was that effort for?”
In the context of a surveillance state, to broadcast through a portal in order to illustrate examples of some the techniques of the Mr. Yeltsin/Mr. Zhirinovsky double act in rememberance of their mutual roles including but not limited to:
Tell the truth since few will believe you.
When they don’t believe you they will tend to resort to belief to bridge doubt to attain “truth”.
When they do believe you they will “interpret” it in their own ways and not understand you.
(In your case facilitated/illustrated in/by your belief of “great men of history with sole agency” (Mr. Putin and 3 weak Polish kings refer), and that the rendering of datastreams from one language into another is a process of translation, not interpretation inadequately informed by context and understanding of connotations catalysed in the original language to native speakers of varying facility).
The former governor of Sverdlovsky oblast – Mr. Yeltsin – was very devious, as was a Soviet expert of South West Asia Mr. Zhirinovsky, thereby jointly facilitating the management of perceptions of various tourists which was widely practiced by many not restricted to Mr. Yeltsin and Mr Zhirinovsky, with the complicity of the tourists and their expectations, who had watched too much television including Happy Days and M.A.S.H. and the productions of Mr. Disney mixed with “hard core porn” and thought the slogan “Snickers for your knickers” was an appropriate/humourous thing to say to females.
For those capable of cross referincing, to make the points of Mr. Bulgakov’s Heart of a dog in a slightly different context, and the points of Mr. Gogol in various works including Diary of a Madman, The Inspector General, Dead Souls, and why not all “Russians” have need to construct Potempkin villages, unlike those immersed in “The United States of America” who serially produce Potempkin villages of similar design, and hence why during the 1990’s many mirrors were used so the tourists could see themselves which the tourist did not deem this plausible belief that anyone would use such primitive technology, a contributory reason why astronauts had designer pens to take into space, and cosmonauts pencils.
Thank you for your cooperation/complicity in emulating/illustrating some of the weaknesses of “exceptionalists” since throughout, including the 1990’s, most “Russians” retained their sense of the ridiculous.
The talk with you is finnished. You write long monologues with no factual basis whatsoever. You can’t even folllow discussion and who is you interlocutor, that is quite visible. Now you have mixed in Yeltsin and Zhirinowski in your obvious mistakes of user’s nicknames. You should buy yourself a glasses or maybe your “intelectual superiority” doesn’t allow you to admit your errors.
The collapse of the Soviet Union was Gorbachev’s job. He against the wishes of Andropov, who right before his death in 1984 agreed upon only some necessary economic changes. Full Gorbachev’s plan was revealed around 1987, that he wanted much more radical changes in Soviet economy and political system, which was Western styled. They only people, who played with Gorbachev were Westerners, who also dupped him into dissolving Warsaw Pact by giving him false assurances that NATO won’t even move by an inch. Now thanks to Gorbachev’s mistakes we have war in Ukraine, genocide of Russians, wide campaign of Russia culture cancellation, risk of nuclear war, etc. Almost every single Warsaw Pact member could be used as a launchpad for nuclear attack. We have 2022 and we are still dealing with what you ignorantly called “minimum temporary blowback”.
When comes to the history I can trust Putin’s judgement. He fixed Russia’s economy, fought back against corruption and preapared military right on time. The very thing, which Polish kings couldn’t do to Poland, which was internally robbed by corrupted and greedy nobility and that corruption was exploited mostly by Prussia. Not Russia. Keep writing down your unhistorical monologues.
It’s getting to the point where I would like to see Zelensky, Poroshenko et al captured and terminated. They can celebrate their love for Bandera in hell.
«Zelensky, Poroshenko et al captured and terminated. They can celebrate their love for Bandera»
Zelensky is just an actor that performs on behalf of a well known oligarch, and Poroshenko is another oligarch, and they are just gangsters.
They really don’t love the fascist ruthenian xenophobes heirs to Bandera, they just use them, and in turn are used by them, it is an alliance of convenience between oligarch gangsters and fascist xenophobes; both of them eagerly “sponsored” and used by USA, UK, and others. Not so different from Chile or Brazil or Chiang’s China-Taiwan or Park’s Korea-south.
“They really don’t love the fascist ruthenian xenophobes heirs to Bandera, they just use them, and in turn are used by them, it is an alliance of convenience between oligarch gangsters and fascist xenophobes; both of them eagerly “sponsored” and used by USA, UK, and others. Not so different from Chile or Brazil or Chiang’s China-Taiwan or Park’s Korea-south.”
One of the aspects of “exceptionalism” is to over-emphasise the agency of some over “the others”.
In coercive social relations “criminals” are emulators of the behaviours of the “exceptional”, and hence for various reasons are often the most attractive and productive recruits for the “exceptional” as force multipliers even when held in “reserve”.
For coercive social relations saturated in competition with inherent binary notions of win/lose, that war is so unjust and ugly to some is factored into “the strategy and tactics therein” adding to its attraction for the “exceptional” and their force multipliers, since whatever the temporary outcomes, it encourages its iteration with or without delay, leading to continual and diffused mutated war, whilst facilitating motivation to facilitate opportunities of transcendence to an increasing some others not so deluded, whose mass longevity tends to be greater than those so deluded – these hypotheses being presently tested, and a component of the increasing reflex behavious of the “exceptional”.
The relationships between the “exceptionalists” and the “criminals” are almost constant in varying presentations – that is partly what laws are for.
“They really don’t love the fascist ruthenian xenophobes heirs to Bandera” … but the interactions/relationships have frissons for the “exceptional” since some of the “exceptionalists” see the fascists as less restrained/freer versions of themselves to which the “exceptional” aspire.
The last paragraph would have sufficed.
“The last paragraph would have sufficed.”
Not if the purpose is to transcend them which are facilitated through interactive multi-vectors, since amateurs think tactics and professionals think logistics.
Some further context which may aid understanding of why transcendence is the chosen/necessary option, and will necessarily be a lateral process, not an event.
“War is so unjust and ugly”
For coercive social relations saturated in competition with inherent binary notions of win/lose, that war is so unjust and ugly is factored into “the strategy and tactics therein”, since whatever the temporary outcomes, it encourages its iteration with or without delay, leading to continual and diffused mutated war, whilst facilitating opportunities of transcendence to others not so deluded, whose longevity tends to be greater than those so deluded.
The control network of the West in Ukraine is the classic colonial device of the West. And when they are losing they massacre civilians along a fault line they have created.
– During the crusades the pseudo-Christians against the heretics.
– During the Second World War in the East the submissive to their fascist ideologies versus the truly nationalist forces.
– Same thing everywhere in Africa and South -America since WW2.
– Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria everywhere they try to destroy the state structures so that when they leave, chaos will reign.
Everywhere structures like the GESTAPO massacre on a large scale and make terror reign. This may be the mark of an escalation towards ethnic cleansing as in ex-Yugoslavia, or even towards genocide as in Rwanda. They seek to create the maximum amount of hatred in the hope that the fight in the identity spaces will continue in the physical spaces by a guerrilla, attacks, etc. ….
“The control network of the West in Ukraine..”
Some would suggest this is an oxymoron on multiple laterally interactive trajectories..
As to attempted colonialisms your observation is correct excepting that “copy books” are in accelerated lateral process and hence in increasing states of ultra vires (beside the pointness), illustrating why some would suggest that your quoted assertion is an increasing oxymoron within interactive trajectories..
The attempted conflation of attempt/achievement is a facilitator of the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America”, as is we-the-people-hold-these-truths-to-be-self-evidentness, thereby self-obfuscating the agency and the extent of others.
This sounds just like Russia
The СбУ bears a strong resemblance to the Nazi Waffen SS/Gestapo. Pure coincidence, eh?
So why Russia do not blowup the dammed SUB headquarters and send that scum to hell.
“… the egregious processes that took place in the USA, a witch hunt for suspected communists, better known McCarthyism…”
Not comparable. As we now know from released documents (and sometimes from their own hands), McCarthy was not only right, he was over-cautious. The accused actually =were= communists backed by the USSR, disloyal to the USA. They were NOT merely dissidents, nor were they loyal opposition. They were subversives and traitors, not merely disagreeable to the administration. Yet McCarthy was certainly not able to unlawfully detain let alone kill the accused.
What Zelensky’s regime is doing is rather more akin to Stalin disappearing the opposition, not at all like McCarthy exposing an actual scheme to install communism in the U.S.
But otherwise… thank you for bringing this into the air and light.
I do pray that Russia holds the American Military and NATO troops to account.
Put them in prison forever or execute them.
The Satanic force is strong here in the USA too.
Many Americans who truly see what is going on have no empathy or compassion for
Western Military taking part in this Satanic plunder of Ukraine and the killing of Russians or Chechens.
Not many Americans understand what is happening.
They laugh at me and scoff when I try to explain to them why I support Russia’s mission.
This is why I have no hope for the country I was born in.
Most Americans are too stupid and brainwashed to ever overcome the Satanic forces destroying us.
Something really terrible needs to happen here in the USA that would potentially wake up the brainwashed masses. Even then, I don’t believe most would wake up.
Quite a long list of Kremlin operative you introduced to wide audience.
Are you still on Patreon?