Dejan “Deki” Beric is a Serbian volunteer fighter serving with the Novorussia Armed Forces in defense of the Donbass. In this interview with journalist Ivan Maksimovic, Beric, a sniper, explains his motivations and the political atmosphere in his homeland. For centuries now Serbs and Russians have fought alongside one another, and the journey of Beric and other Serbs can be viewed as a continuation of this fraternal bond. Translated by Mark Hackard.
*** (originally posted on the website Soul of the East)***
Why are you here in Novorussia? What was your motive in coming to the edge of the world, about which we knew almost nothing until recently, in order to risk your life? How and because of what?
I’ve told why I’m in Novorussia many times already. So I’ll be brief right now. I came to help our Orthodox brothers and fight against the NATO criminals who bombed our land, just as more than anyone they have saber-rattled and threatened to attack Crimea. I had forgotten then the fact that NATO and the countries supporting this organization are the usual cowards. They can enter a conflict only where there’s the possibility of bombing from afar, if possible against 90% civilian targets to sow fear and panic. So they haven’t directly participated, but their influence is clearly visible here. And so several American officers were wounded here. They weren’t in battle – they’re located a bit further from the frontline and explain how important it is to destroy civilian targets. I’ve heard this from more than one Ukrainian POW, with a multitude repeating the same words.
|Dejan “Deki” Beric|
How do you see events today in the former Ukraine? If you had waited up to the present moment, would your decision today be the same as it was when you came to Novorussia?
The situation in Ukraine is more than horrible. If it weren’t for the awful censorship in the Serbian press, then you would be able to see all the horrors of civil war. What we are shown is more than 50% lies.
I can find a simple explanation for this: in Serbia the objective press hasn’t been bought by foreigners. But there is none, so whatever’s not bought is controlled through the government, which is not Serbian and is pushing Serbia to the precipice. I’d like to be wrong…If I hadn’t come over from the very beginning, I would have after the first photos of children murdered in the streets and in schools…
Everyone has a different awareness. I will never forget what the criminals from NATO did in Serbia. I’ll always repeat this – not so that people know I haven’t forgotten, but to remind those who have forgotten. I simply can’t imagine myself sitting in a warm room and playing on the computer when vampiric fascism is awakening in its worst form.
Dejan was “hiding” from the press for a long while until he went on a highly important mission with Motorola’s group of Novorussian fighters. From that moment his life from a standpoint of popularity entered a new phase.
The Serbian public found out about you when it was announced you had blown up a Ukrainian junta armored transport with your rifle. Was this one of the most important events during the war in former Ukraine for you as well?
I was hiding skillfully until we came to help Motorola’s group, which is when we punched through a corridor for the towns Snezhnoe-Stepanovka-Marinovka. They had a reporter with them, and he recored what happened on a small video camera. He asked me for an interview and said it was only for them, and already the next day it turned up on Youtube.
I’ve gone through all the sectors where battles were engaged. Among Serbs in battle I’ve met only one man, Slavisha from Belgrade. Unfortunately he’s not with us now; he’s resting, since when an airplane bombed the house they were in, he got shrapnel in the stomach. He’s alright now, but he’s still not adequate for hard work.
Dejan tells us that in Novorussia he’s not with the Chetniks or any other group, but with the people for whom he came, and it’s very important to him that the local populace accept him as their own.
I proudly wear a five-pointed star on my beret next to my bat reconnaissance pin. Some in Serbia don’t like this, but it’s my choice. Here people are proud of this.
I can’t set apart a most important event. Maybe in Marinovka, when I was able to blow up an armored transport carrier with shots from my sniper rifle. I was using armor-piercing incendiary rounds. It wasn’t some feat like they ascribe to me – the carrier was attacking our positions and I was firing from a heavy-caliber weapon. It passed us by, so we moved forward a bit further than planned. I shot it up more from the disadvantage of having no anti-tank weapons on me. The armor proved weak. I don’t know where I hit, but after a pair of bullets, it caught on fire.
It’s a widespread opinion that in war, snipers find themselves concealment and from there “calmly” shoot at moving targets by choice. What really is a sniper in war?
This opinion is mistaken. I’m a normal soldier, like others with automatic rifles. I became a sniper by force of circumstances. A sniper at the famous airport in Donetsk was killing two to three civilians a day. For four days they couldn’t get him. In four days that balance had reached twelve killed, and of them only one man – the rest were women and children. I grabbed a sniper rifle and went to wait for him. I studied where he was operating from and designated the point where I’d lie in wait for him. I was lucky that I had calculated correctly and saw him after his first shot. He wasn’t firing anymore after that. Then I was given an assignment to destroy snipers. And that, I suppose, is my main task. Or the hardest one, in any case. Sometimes I read comments in the press that some people see a sniper as murdering civilians. It’s painful to read such things, but as a smart man said, “it’s not important what is said, but who says it.” And so as before, I’m a sniper in a reconnaissance-sabotage brigade named Ryazan in honor of our commander. We were a recon-sabotage group with one armored carrier, and now it’s a brigade with three hundred combatants and solid hardware.
How do the people of Novorussia and how do you look upon the reaction in Serbia? Including both the people and the government.
I don’t want to speak of how people here view the reaction from Serbia, because I can’t explain the actions of the Serbian government.
I’ll say only that it’s unimportant what the government thinks – what the people thinks is important. There is a lot of moral support, which is very important. The government gave away Serbia, so how can it be an indicator of attitudes after that? We are normal people who have always shed blood for one another; we are the measure of relations between the two peoples. Just as during the criminal bombardment of Serbia, when the government in Russia didn’t represent the Russian people. Russians came to help as volunteers. Many of them married in Serbia and Republika Srpska.
Recently a law was passed that envisages criminal punishment for participants in wars outside Serbia. This law doesn’t concern Serbian soldiers, who together with NATO forces “guard the peace,” who go on these missions voluntarily and exclusively for money. Those who go in such a way to foreign wars are said to represent their country with pride.
You are in Novorussia to defend the local population from fascism. You’re participating in the defense of Orthodox holy places and nations, and you’re not demanding money for it. How do you view this law?
Your question is relevant. I’ll express my opinion and relay what former soldiers of the criminal NATO army say.
Fighters who had served five years on contract in the French army arrived into our brigade three months ago. The man who was most respected in this group was a Frenchman of Serbian descent, Nicola. Now he’s the commander of an international group. We’re no longer together, but we maintain contact when possible. What is there worth saying anything about NATO after his words: “I was in this criminal army in Afghanistan and I’m ashamed of it. I came here to fight against fascism.”
What must happen with a man in order to leave a well-paid, well-organized army and come to fight in an army where they don’t pay? Concerning organization, there’s still much that needs to be done. When he arrived I told him they fight here, and he didn’t believe it. Some twenty days later, when he went to Donetsk, we met. With a smile he told me what he thought, that we scare him, but everything is precisely so. Perhaps many won’t understand why he did this, but I know. I saw him when he arrived and again recently. No one will drive him from here; his conscience has awakened.
And this conscience should awaken in Serbia. There are arriving ever more men who were in the armies of the NATO nations, and they finally want to struggle for a just cause.
|French and Serbian volunteers in Novorussia.|
Dejan says that this law forbidding participation in foreign wars was passed on the initiative and wishes of someone outside of Serbia, someone who desires to defend their own interests.
Serbia is no longer the country of its inhabitants. Our beautiful land is managed by foreigners, and their blind followers are in power. I read this law and for me, as a man who knows what loyalty to one’s country is, it’s more than ridiculous. Why? I can’t precisely cite it right now, but it’s written that only the Serbian regular army can participate in wars beyond Serbia’s borders. So the Serbian army becomes one of the cogs in the NATO machine. The Serbian army will be participating in the murder of civilians, just as seventeen armies abused Serbia.
I hope that God will forgive our government for passing such a shameful law. I was horrified when I read it. I didn’t want to engage in politics, but by their actions they force me to… Aleksandr Vucic called upon us to return to Serbia and no longer disgrace her. I don’t know whether he was ashamed of his ancestors when he announced such a thing. Both of his grandfathers fought against the fascists. Struggle against injustice is in our blood, and by their actions they are pushing men to come here. If I understood correctly, and correct me if I’m wrong, but we, arriving here by the call of our hearts, are disgracing Serbia, and those who are mercenaries in armed forces that bombed maternity homes, hospitals, schools, houses, and trains – they are defending Serbia’s honor. In my opinion that’s mad.
Remember the great words said on holy Serbian soil: “It’s not important how many of the enemy there are, what’s important is the sacred place you defend.” And so I remain here in the hope that in Serbia normal men will come to power and change the law so that I can go to my country. I’m interested solely in whether someone will pass a law condemning the government, which by its actions has led people in Serbia to commit suicide because they cannot pay their bills after their already minor pensions or salaries, earned by their labor, were reduced. The government carries direct responsibility for a multitude of lost lives in Serbia. To whom will they answer for this? And to finish with politics: Gentlemen politicians, I wish you long life and robust health, so that you can await the marriage of your great grandsons, and then see how future generations will be ashamed of what you have done.
I am proud of you Dejane beyond words!Enough said.
For all of the fighters who defend Novorussia – Russian, Ukrainian, French, Serbian and others – I leave this song in English. The value of the song is not only in the lyrics but in the voice of the man who sings it – Bob Dylan. The song was part of the movie Gods and Generals. It chronicles the death of General Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson and the ultimate defeat of the Confederacy but it transcends death and defeat to things eternal, beyond death and defeat.
what a great and moving interview!
If Dejan is not allowed home, I am certain Novorossiya will welcome him as a resident and citizen.
There has been a big rash of countries making laws about citizens going elsewhere to fight.
Australia has just done so too – passports are cancelled and they won’t be let back int the country. Admittedly most of ours lately have gone to join ISIS. The fear is they will “bring terrorism home” which is stupid as they have obviously GONE THERE to fight after not having come to any police attention here. All they’re doing is radicalising their relatives who remain here.
There is no clearer way of saying “you are only one of us if you shut up and do as you’re told”. Personal choice, personal judgement,personal belief, no longer allowed.
Serbia is a long way down the road to EU membership. I wonder how they could still “fail to make the grade”? Before it’s too late?
Unless you are a US citizens who chooses to join in with the IDF Zio-Nazis in their criminal enterprise. If a US citizen and especially those dual citizens supports the apartheid, fascist, racketeers in Israel he/she is considered to be serving a righteous cause. Genocidal extermination of Arabs is a good cause; especially in a country which was founded upon similar principles.
I pray for your good health and victory.
Before Nato bombing of Yugoslavia, I guess majority of Russians were pro-Western; but than started to have their doubts. (Amazingly, Madame Albright still has none). It may be that Yugoslavia indirectly lead to what’s happening now in Ukraine, eager external volunteers including. (And one of Strelkov’s 3 prior wars were in Bosnia…).
by leaving the g-20 meeting early putin has shown another stupidity in international standing of Russia- so that her enemies will make fun that he fled .
putin has done so much damage to Russian prestige in last 6 months all because many people in Russia went on supporting his stupid pandering to anglos west despite anglos declaring war on russia.
did Putin really have to go to g-20?
if yes then he should have been more aggressive rather than justifying to no bodies like austrlaia, Canada and english PMs.
Very good article…hopefully more Serbians will arrive.
They belong to some of the toughest fighters in Europe.
There is many hundreds Serbs fighting in Novorussia, but they don’t know it, because they have forgot that they are of Serb descent. Before it was called Novorussia, the Donbass was populated with Serbs from Serbian Krajinas,and was called New Serbia or SlavjanoSerbia. There is always a town witnsessing this past whitch name is Slavnjanoserbsk.
Dejan is at home in Novorussia.
I see much more than a coincidence in the fact that Russian and serbian people are being bring closer together by this war in a land populated with a mixed russian-serbian population.
The path to liberty and glory for our two nations is passing through Novorussia. And Novorussia will be the model and the symbol of our union, with God blessing.
A very powerful personal article, rightfully condemning Western Governments for being satanic mass murderers and war criminals: targetting civilians etc.
There are centuries of history of Serbian-Russian cooperation:
NAF has still not taken the airport. Wonder why they dont cut of supply routes to positions that support the holding onto the airport for so long now. NAF cant take it because of artillery strikes and it is pretty much destroyed. But it seems a sore point to contest a place so close to your lines but unable to take it.
Ako budes citao ove komentare, znaj da ima mnogo Hrvata koji te podrzavaju.
Ipak ja govorim u moje ime, ti si na pravoj strani u borbi za svetu zemlju Rusku.
Ni mi Hrvati ni vi Srbi se nemate vise cime identificirati osim Rusije.
Rusija je nama Hrvatima i vama Srbima nova domovina.
Natovci su zlo nama Hrvatima i vama Srbima.
Nek te Bog cuva.
Zivijela slobodna i suverena Rusija majka svih Slavena.
Allen, they TOOK the airport. And relaxed. And Ukie came in after 2 days with triple artillery and killed 7 of our guys and took the old terminal again.
But they got rid of one of the main sites that were shelling the town. They HAVE to hold the airport to stop the town getting killed. They’ve been just hanging in for the whole ceasefire, because to move out with 4 or 5 tanks to get those artillery they’d get the whole UAF down on them for so obvious breaching the ceasefire. So they have to suffer for the politics. But they have to be “in the right” when UAF does attack them hard (soon) as their only hope of UAF not getting outside help (while NAF does). Horribly frustrating.
We only have the name of one who gave his life. The other 6 and the 6 wounded there’s nothing about. No usual sit-rep report either, so where is Givi? One post 18 hours ago on his facebook, but it’s not “his”.
It was the war on the former Yugoslavia, that woke me up to corruption and sham legitimacy of the US. Because I was so informed, I saw 911 for what it was. the fighters in the East possess a spiritual power that the West cannot understand.
Because of the NATO coup in 2000 the media in Serbia (and other Southeast and East European countries) is controlled by German corporations like WAZ(owned by the German ruling party SPD that bombed Yugoslavia in 1999 and organized the coup in 2000). That is why they censor nazi war crimes in Ukraine. The destruction und recolonization of Yugoslavia was enforced by NATO-backed nazis/ustashe, too. The same strategy is now applied by Germany and the US to colonize Ukraine.
“The WAZ media group has been present on the Serbian media market since October 2001. At the time, more than two years after the war over Kosovo and about a year after the overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic, the WAZ media group bought 50 percent of the shares in the Politika AD publishing house based in Belgrade, one of the most venerable newspaper publishers in all of Southeast Europe.”
“Thus the economically liberal and Europe-friendly weekly magazine ,,Wprost”, reported in a front-page article, under the headline ,,Drang nach Osten”, at the end of last year that German press expansion was like a colonization: In some regions of Poland the paper market was so dominated by German press products that it was almost a reminder of the occupation of Western Poland by Prussia.”
Off topic, but: Nazi appointed Kiev police chief.
I must say that as a Croat I am impressed by this interview. This guy is obviously not a chetnik scum (in ww2 chetniks ended up as fascist collaborators), but follower of the partisan antifascist tradition with red star as a symbol. My grandfather was the partisan and I am proud of it.
As we in former Yugoslavia used to greet (and some of us say it even today): “Death to the fascism, freedom to the people!” Do not forget that lots of Croats and Slovenians despise imperial policy (NATO) in which they were drswn by their puppet regimes without asking people if they want that.
by leaving the g-20 meeting early putin has shown another stupidity in international standing of Russia-
Obama left early, too. Merkel stayed so she could come to Sydney afterwards and talk with her friend shirt-front Tony.
Putin said there was no talk of Ukraine at all in the sessions, but in the one-on-ones it was totally about Ukraine. So he could tell each one separately what is really happening and why he can’t tell the people to put down arms until Kiev stops. But Obama kept insisting Russia has to do it first.
Putin only found out from the media about Poro’s plan to cut off the Donbass. He said it looks like economic blockade. But I am sure he saw the kill’em’clause, too. But didn’t say at the meeting, only said he wants to make sure everyone in Ukraine stays alive and will make sure of it. Obama kept saying Russia has to keep to Minsk.
Americans really don’t know. Saw a CNN news report showing Ukie troops shooting at a rebel tank at the airport and Russian convoys. Turns out they get their info from the Ukie cry-wolf guy Lysenko. The shooting footage was from a DPR video of Givi’s team shooting a Ukie tank, and the Russian convoy was actually UKIE trucks.
Anyway Putin’s home now and will work out something.
Just spoke to a guy in Donetsk, said they have heating on in most houses, and it’s quiet at the moment,things better in the past few days. Adveetka and Peski nearly wiped out,where the shelling was from.
The US and NATO are working on a “dangerous” and “destabilizing” plan to “breakup” Russia and force it to submit to Western authority, which will lead to more instability and possibly a nuclear confrontation, an American anti-war activist warns.
“It’s very clear to me that the United States is trying to break Russia’s will,” said Bruce Gagnon, the coordinator of the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space organization.
“The US is trying to force Russia to either submit to US/NATO authority or if it doesn’t want to submit, then it must be broken into pieces, the way Iraq is being broken, the way Syria is being broken up” Gagnon told Press TV on Sunday.
Once Nazi, today Natoist
Eres grande, Dejan.
Viva la madre que te parió!
Viva Serbia, carajo!
Y viva Novorrusia libre!
El Murid, Nov 16 2014
Putin gave his final press conference. He very diplomatically praised the summit in Brisbane, as a constructive, however, referring to the 18-hour flight to Moscow, departed early from Australia, not waiting for the final communiqué and the total final output. Still, the information of Reuters, which was denied yesterday by Peskov, were relatively accurate. Indeed, Putin interrupted ahead of their participation in the meeting, though, and has furnished this is a purely working moments. Solution Poroshenko about the economic blockade of Donetsk and Lugansk Putin called error, which, apparently, was for him also a very unpleasant surprise. Now the question careful about the return of these territories back to Ukraine is not necessary. Poroshenko actually went for broke, forcing Russia either to finally take them, or take on the full content. Both for different reasons, but unacceptable to the Kremlin’s strategy was aimed at the gradual reintegration of rebel territories of Ukraine, in order not to cause resentment here and there, but at the same time not to take responsibility for their political future. Now have to make a decision, and quickly and unambiguously. Winter is on the nose, without massive assistance it will be a disaster, with the West defiantly not going to blame it on Kiev. In both cases, nothing good for Moscow. Administration of DND and LNR matched to the task of returning the part of Ukraine, but the Kremlin puppets than the Kremlin had hoped to keep Kiev on a leash. Poroshenko has raised the question onto a different plane all at once. The problem arises that the administration of DND and LNR to independent swimming is not prepared, in principle, and in the case of surrender of territories by the Kremlin their future now nothing is guaranteed. The next Minsk meeting, proposed by the curators of Ukrainian politics, had a hole in the bottom and sank before our eyes. No further Minsk agreements will happen. Putilin calling for a Minsk-2 will be ignored by Kiev. In general, the failure of diplomatic etiquette and early departure of Putin can and should be regarded as a complete diplomatic failure of Russia in Australia, let and have different reservations. The West was able to create an atmosphere of total obstruction of Russia in the neutral attitude of the other participants of the G20. Nobody was prepared to take part in the protection of Russia. This is what Pindostan wanted. And what they ultimately achieved. In such circumstances, indeed, on the summit to do nothing more, with the ceremonial procedures to cope Finance Minister Siluanov.
I can only hope that the terrible things that happened to my country will at least help Russia in recognising the evil they are up against.
When we were being bombed nobody helped us. WE were “The Serbs”- Nazi’s, barbarians who deserved to die.
They bombed my grandmother, but NATO was defending HUMAN RIGHTS, and the Clintons became humanitarians. They all celebrated the spilling of civilian blood.
Truth and conviction from the heart is more powerful that all the Western propaganda and their ALL-LIES.
What an awesome interview!
If people don’t STUDY and LEARN from what happened to Yugoslavia (bit.ly/1pQWjX2 and bit.ly/1qUZgb4), they DESERVE to be slaughtered like the peoples of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc. Because they will be when the Evil Eye of Mordor focuses on them next.
People: We are dealing with Absolute Evil ~ The United States of Death, Disease and Destruction and its ALL-LIES including Occupied Germany, Japan and South Korea. You don’t give ANY quarters to these Devils and their brainwashed “cannon fodder”.
Saker looking more and more like a faker.
OK, looks like commanders at airport alive, not seen tho, so possibly injured??? they were in the fire brigade house, heavy tank fire collapsed a wall onto them, that’s what most got injured from, so not too bad, tho some of th death were from artillery.
Three convoys of tanks came at them from all directions. The lookout failed to warn, they don’t know why yet, he may have been taken out. Injured and all they fought back and burnt some of the tanks.
UKIE BODY COUNT since April from public sources; it is understated compared to figures we’ve had from Ukie intercepts. But interesting how many foreign mercenaries and CIA they mention:
A summary of the total losses of Ukraine on the basis of the research of open sources and media
“The total loss in the Ukrainian army in New Russia (Donbas, Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa, and others.) April 3 – present in 2014. From the front, not back around – 20,904 soldiers, including members of the military and paramilitary Ukrainian security forces units.
Of them – about 3,282 fighters of the “right sector,” mainly included in the National Guard, as well as 30 special battalions of mercenaries oligarch Igor Kolomoisky “Dnepr” and “Azov”, “Aydarov”, on-line data corpses taken to Dnepropetrovsk, destroyed at the local crematorium, or buried on the site of death and listed as missing.
– About 11,590 troops Ukrainian army (mainly from the 25th Airborne Brigade and 95 Dnipropetrovsk, Zhytomyr airmobile brigade, the 24th motorized brigade of the Lviv region, 79 airmobile brigade, 51 Mechanized Brigade, 24th Mechanized Brigade of Yavorov, 72-th separate mechanized brigade of White Church, Kremenchug Defence Intelligence brigade and other units of the Ukrainian army, mostly from the place of deployment to the Western Ukraine)
– About 4192 members of the UAF of the number enlisted as “National Guard”
– About 379 employees of the SBU Ukraine
State Border Service of Ukraine – 243 people
-88 CIA, FBI, DIA US special forces,
– Foreign mercenaries:
– 630 people from the Polish PMC «ASBS Othago», American PMCs Academi and her “daughter” Greystone Limited PMCs, Canada, Germany, the UK, Lithuania, Estonia, Italy, Sweden, Turkey, Czech Republic, Finland, African and Arab, etc. . countries.
– Other categories of armed forces of Ukraine – 1779 people. “
Backs up my long held theory that the US has direct tactical control of some or all of the Kiev forces.
I first started thinking of this ages ago, when Kiev kept repeating the same tactical mistakes. But those were standard US ‘playbook’ stuff, repeated by them over and over again all over the place.
I kept thinking that if the Kiev forces had followed the old Soviet tactics (the basis of their original training) then they would have done a lot better than they have.
t moves you to make it more than it already is?
Your are as eager as most westerns to be more than you are.
I thank you for your analyses. They are great.
Off-topic, major interview Putin with German television (Hubert Seipel) coming up. Interview in German here:
Will post English subs when available. Putin was nervous and apparantly under great pressure. Interview conducted in Wladiwostok on Thursday, shortly before the summit in Brisbane.
Kosovo is Serbia.
The time will come.
The Slovaks know how to greet an oligarch:
Western Democracy at work:
On 18 March 2008, a war on WikiLeaks and Julian Assange was foretold in a secret Pentagon document prepared by the “Cyber Counterintelligence Assessments Branch”. It described a detailed plan to destroy the feeling of “trust” which is WikiLeaks’ “centre of gravity”. This would be achieved with threats of “exposure [and] criminal prosecution”. Silencing and criminalising this rare source of independent journalism was the aim, smear the method. Hell hath no fury like great power scorned.
That was 6 years ago, folks…
A message for the Croat who refers to the WW2 Serbian resistance fighters as “chetnik scum’ and ‘fascist collaborators.” Your contribution is not only wholly inaccurate it is very offensive.
100 Serbian civilians were executed every German soldier killed by the resistance (whether that was Chetnik or Partisan), 50 Serbian civilians were killed for every wounded German. No Croats, or Slovenes or Bosnian Moslems were executed by the Germans, just Serbians. Chetniks and partisans were also executed if caught.
I don’t know if you have been brainwashed by communist Yugoslavian education or if you are a modern-day Ustashe (WW2 Croat Fascist movement) but your comments don’t sit well on this blog.
Putin has never looked so weak to me.
On one hand we have the outrageous lying propaganda of the west; on the other hand we have the “Putin the great chest master has everything under control” blogosphere.
I don’t know what to believe anymore.
All I know is that I don’t buy this “Russia is respecting these unspoken diplomatic rules, blah, blah, blah”.
How’s the west respecting those rules, huh? They call Putin all names in the book, they accuse him of invading other countries, presenting fake evidence, they accuse him publicly of shooting down MH17, they compare Russia to Ebola and Russia, and on and on.
And then we are supposed to believe that Russia has the goods on 9/11 and MH17, but won’t use that because, “Hey, you just don’t do that diplomatically.”
Give me a break.
Unfortunately, I find it impossible to find any serious, objective analysis of the real situation.
With the statement of Poro to stop all kind of financial aids and even to stop to respect human rights…Putin seems to have been taken by surprise once again(Sotchi winter olympics 2.0/maidan).
As I already said several times here,Putin tried after Odessa massacre to play it with diplomatics manners…’our partners’,’our friends’ etc..what are the results now?More sanctions next week level 5 or 6(?)…4000 deads,9000 injured,800.000 refugees,total devastation of the Donbast,more sanctions,ruble fall,oil price falling in the 70 usd(maybe soon in the 60 usd?)…etc etc.
What did he gain?Nothing but Crimea.He is a paria,humiliated at the G20 like never before.
The AZ banksters military complex only respects one type of action:FORCE..FORCE…and FORCE
This is their way to behave,for them anything else is total weakness.
I’m a Putin partisan,I know it is not easy for him to do what he wants with the fith column in the back,and the fact that he must(and he has been elected only for that reason)defend firss the interest and security of the RF…but now he is cornered.Whatever he will do or not,it will be a no win action anyway.
Or he capitulates and let the Donbass fall back in the hands of the nazis(with near certain genocide to follow)or he takes the Donbass over or even more he goes(for a real invasion this time)down to Mariupol,Odessa,up to Kharkov.But who is going to pay for that??And be sure that the AZ will one day try to take Crimea back,it was their main goal with the Maidan coup.
We will soon have the answer,it is going to be a fight to death with the fith column.
For me he has now nothing to loose.There will be more sanctions anyway.
The Ukraine is bankrupted,they need a war for diversion.
But the Poro move this week-end was not expected,as Putin looks very nervous.
I also do not understand the lack of solidarity of other BRICS partners at the G20.
Or they maybe have been advised by the AZ that Putin time was nearly over and should better not support him anymore…
Anonymous at 01:45:
I’m with you. The G20 was extremely depressing. I couldn’t believe the lack of solidarity from the BRICS. It makes me sick just thinking about them.
Then I go on the French Saker and I read yet another lame excuse on why the BRICS didn’t lift a finger.
I’m like you. It’s been a year and it’s been victory after victory for the AZ.
The Porki/CIA decision to essentially commit ethnic cleansing shows the extent to which those people are willing to go.
This is what PCR was saying in his interview with RT a couple weeks ago: “I don’t know if Putin understands what he is up against… What those people are capable of”
It’s downright scary.
Here is the full ARD interview Putin gave to a very sympathetic Hubert Seipel:
“Putin has never looked so weak to me. “
Yes I agree, at times I was afraid that Putin could get emotional. But this was shortly before Brisbane, probably one of the most difficult challenges in his career, but he survived. And can’t begin to describe my admiration for the man.
Intriguing was the four hour visit Merkel paid to Putin’s hotel, joined by EU commision president Juncker.
Here my light-hearted comments on Brisbane:
Good news is that a Kurdish leader has revealed that ISIS is in reality 7-8 times bigger than the CIA assumes, this will keep the Americans busy.
It hurts my heart that the brave men and women who fight all over the world for freedom, for justice, and for mere survival must fight MY govt. The govt and media are captured by the NWO criminals. Obama has no real power; he’s only a mask for the criminals. He’s actually CIA, as were his mother, father, and one grandparent.
MEDIA says Putin pressured over Ukraine. Putin says they were cordial. MEDIA says Putin left early due to unpleasantness. Putin says his work was complete, left asst to attend the working breakfast. You KNOW the media lies; how can you give it any credense at all? Don’t be silly. Obama left early too.
Steady, guys. Don’t react to every tiny thing the media says.
“He’s humiliated Russia by leaving early.” Really! Get a grip!
“Before Nato bombing of Yugoslavia, I guess majority of Russians were pro-Western”
I wonder how Russians could be pro-Western after what was done to Iraq in the Gulf War of 1991.
U.S./NATO created the “Highway of Death” whereby they blockaded the highway after it was packed by retreating Iraqi military as well as Kuwaiti civilians – and just blasted it intensely with everything they could get their hands on. It was MILES and MILES of carbonated vehicles and bodies.
And it was meant to send a message to the Soviet Union – more precisely to Russia.
The U.S. made sure Russia signed off on and approved the retreat deal just before it happened – this despite Russia not even being a part of the war.
The U.S. wanted to get Russia’s attention, then it caused that enormous devastation, horror and ugliness for 60 miles.
And a U.S. soldier says it was meant to show just what NATO forces could do.
Russia has taken a sluggish reaction to that and much of what NATO/U.S. has done since.
Now NATO is closer than ever to Russia’s doorstep and it will never relent.
Yet Russia cooperates and helps U.S. in its wars and occupation – like how Russia allows the transportation of aid for the Afghanistan occupation across its territory. This despite Russia only receiving a huge heroin/drug problem from it.
The poppy fields are thriving as never before under U.S. occupation.
This is one aspect of Putin I feel troublesome – why did he go along with the West when he could see the destruction and chaos they were spreading? I hate to think it, but was it his desire for RF to be part of the NWO? Sharon
Michael, while it is clear that the croatian state was fully committed to extermination of its enemies, Croatians were a significant portion of the partisan movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans#Croatia
It is also clear that many anticommunist forces clashed with the communist-led partisans. Sometimes these conflicts were encouraged and utilized by the occupying forces. But this is a topic of a broader discussion. At some point, the Balkan people should embrace the rather complex history of the Balkans and transcend it.
” Michael, while it is clear that the croatian state was fully committed to extermination of its enemies, Croatians were a significant portion of the partisan movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans#Croatia“
Depends on what do you consider significant. And when do you look – do you look at 1941 or 1944? The partisans in Croatia were predominantly Serbs. Most Croats (and Bosniaks) served in the Axis forces – the number of Croats and Bosniaks in the Partisans was minute prior to 1943.
The split in Yugoslavia was clear – the Serbs were pro-Allied (the March 27th demonstrations and repudiation of the Tripartite pact, the guerrillas in the Chetniks/Yugoslav Army and the dominant majority of Partisans), while the Croats and Bosniaks were pro-Axis (greeting Germans with flowers, the Croat legion at Stalingrad, the Bosniak SS Division, genocide against Serbs, Jews and Roma…).
They say fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me thrice ain’t gonna happen.
Croatia as a state is synonymous with asking for a reset and forgiveness after gaining for itself. Just see the behaviour during the Austro Hungarian times. Then the first Yugoslavia. Then the second Yugoslavia. The Croatian state hooked up gladly with evil to eliminate it’s enemies, just as the Ukrops are doing. Only problem is that, who they believe is their enemy, is the reason for their existence. After WW1 the Croatian language and culture came back. After WW2 it was industrialised by taking away industry and resources from Serbia including receiving a lion’s share of German compensation for WW2. Just seeing the population greeting the Nazis with flowers in Zagreb in comparison to the bullets they received in Belgrade shows the who is who. Soon the Croatian state will destroy and spit on the EU and Nato when there is no gain left to exploit. Google the Mesic speech about winning WW2 twice to see the mentality or Tito’s offer to the Nazis to destroy any allied invasion for partnership. Italy surrendered, Germany got pounded at Stalingrad, then you can understand why so many Croats suddenly joined the partisans. For the Serbs I think it has been more than enough, for them the Chetniks, the Ravna Gora movement and the Serbian spirit is viewed as the only saviour, Tito’s communism and it’s lies marked in as history is long debunked. The sacrifices that Serbian partisans made will be preserved as will the Chetnik ones, live with it
quote from someone who doesn’t have a name:
-And then we are supposed to believe that Russia has the goods on 9/11 and MH17, but won’t use that because, “Hey, you just don’t do that diplomatically.”-
strange that, there some parts of skeletons in cupboards, that stay in the diplomatic cupboard. I speak from gaining experience in such diplomatic circles.
Any dirty washing that comes out, usually does so via the press.
thats my 2 cents on it.
Dejan is continuing a long tradition of Serb solidarity with Russians.
Serbs are most pro-Russian nation of the European continent. (That was and is one of the reasons that they were targeted for destruction by various western powers through the history, including during the nineties to this day).
With just a little Russian help, Serbs would choose Russia instead of EU.
After long Russian absence, there are hope full signs recently:
– military parade in Belgrade with Putin as a guest of honor and Russian jets in the sky
-Russian Patriarch was in Belgrade last week for the opening ceremony of the monument to the Russian tsar Nicholas II, and few other important meetings
-there was a conference about “Russian soft power in Serbia” last week in Belgrade
-Russian para- troopers exercised together with Serb army few days ago.
This interview has been translated into Basque
Re: all the posts above discussing Serbs/Croats…
The recent conflicts in Yugoslavia, like the current conflict in the Ukraine, were for the most part not inter-ethnic, but intra-ethnic. The majority of “Croats” are erstwhile Catholic Serbs who have changed their national identity under the guidance of the Vatican (some are true Croats, the West Slavic people related to Slovenes, Slovaks, and Czechs). The vast majority of “Bosniaks” are Muslim Serbs who identify predominantly with their religious affiliation due to the extravagant privileges and prestige it brought them under the Ottomans.
It’s hard for us to speak of one side begin pro-East and the other being pro-West as if it’s a choice when we realize that this is how they define themselves in the first place! For example, it will take some time, but a pro-Orthodox Croat will one day become a Serb in the same way pro-Vatican Serbs have almost all become Croats.
If Deki feels he must go back to Serbia, he will have to take his chances with discretion on the part of the judicial system to recognize that the law is not meant to be applied to “Soldiers of Conscience.”
This is a very good law. It is aimed at the Blackwater clones. It is an attempt to combat the impunity from prosecution which they have managed to carve out for themselves as they sow havoc around the world.
Deki will be embraced as a native son if he wants to stay in the Donbass.
His chances of going home without jail time look pretty bright to me provided he picks the political moment and gets a good lawyer.
Kat Kan’s right, it’s aimed first at the jihadists.
It does, however, apply to any mercenary force, and, with lesser penalties, to volunteers. This latter is a universal legal dodge, like making it illegal to “possess” a lock pick, to convict people who you know are burglars when you can’t prove it. It removes the prosecutorial burden of proving payments made to mercenaries, which tend to be paid into Swiss bank accounts.
These “wink, wink” laws always carry a risk if you go pro se but a judge doesn’t want to make a fool of himself/herself in front of a lawyer. They belong to the same community.