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Onwards to Odessa.
After Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) is 100% liberated:
Seversk, Bakhmut, Slaviansk, Kramatorsk, Konstyantynivka, Avdivka, Pokrovsk, etc.
Then, after Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) is 100% liberated:
Then part of Dnipropetrovsk oblast (stopping after Pavlograd, south of Kharkiv oblast) and “full” Zaporijia oblast east of Dniepre river.
Only then the Mykolaiv oblast, and maybe the pincer movement from both sides of Dniepre river in order to finish the liberation of Dnipropetrovsk oblast. This includes Kryviy Rih (and then Zelensky no longer has a Ukrainian birthplace…). I don’t think Russia wants to fight inside Dnipropetrovsk.
Actually I also doubt that Russia wants to fight inside Kharkiv, Zaporijia, Kryviy Rih, and Mykolaiv, all of those bigger than Mariupol, and no longer with the need of a military victory against the core of Azov regiment.
We’ll see after Kramatorsk (DPR)…
Finally the north of Odessa oblast (ex: Podilsk) until Transnistria, completely encircling Odessa by land and sea (Snake island re-occupied before that), then waiting, and probably capturing the city without a single fight.
So, Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk, huge cities, will be the last 2 pieces.
The final borders might not be 100% like the ones of current oblasts. Russia will try to adapt them to terrain and rivers natural borders, and also try to flatten them as much as possible (like it’s doing nowadays in Zaporijia and Kherson). Thus making it much easier to defend.
This would be my plan. It might take until before the Winter of 2023 (1 year and a half from now). Either that, or Kiev’s dictatorship might go down before that. This is also the advantage of current phase 2 “slow and steady” tactics: it grinds enough nationalist and Nazi cannon fodder, and takes enough time to have the Collective West experience a Winter without Russia’s products. Also time increases the possibilities that the surrender of Kiev’s junta might take place before all oblasts need to be liberated by force.
My main doubt is: will Zelensky spend the 2023 Winter in his Miami mansion, will the SBU “take care” of him after he signs the surrender, or will he have to step out much sooner because of a military coup?
Then what will Russia’s endgame be in the rest of Ukraine? The Kremlin said their lines would advance west at a proportional rate as the NATO delivered systems advance their attack range east.
Does this mean Russia might be planing to get all Ukraine east of Dniepre river? Or does it mean Russia will no longer allow Ukraine to have a pro-western government, and instead impose a “Lukashenko Belarus style” government?
And how will Russia handle the Banderistan (Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk) where Svoboda once reached +35% votes and huge groups of people glorify the NAZI Stepan Bandera? There aren’t enough prisons for all those lunatics… Maybe the solution will be a repression that makes them all flee to Poland, and that way all lunatics (Ukrainian nazis, and Polish fascist) can live together in the same place.
Exactly jose. We all await the european winter. No need for fast . Stock up on popcorn.
Poland is already making inroads into ukraine, legally, with the full approval of traitor zero (no hero), as reported on Russian Telegram channels. So a chunk of Western ukraine is going to be annexed to Poland. Meanwhile, the Poles are getting fed up with the ukrainian refugees. On July 01, the govt reduced (or cut off?) the financial aid to them.
Russia needs to landlock ukraine too, by taking the whole coast of the Black Sea, which will prevent the brits & yanks with their dreamed for naval base(s) there.
Russia would be insane if it didn’t liberate all of Southern Ukraine to Transnitria and along the Dnieper clear to Belarus. Let Kiev be the isolated capital of a decrepit Western Ukraine and watch it in a few years beg to be part of Novorussya.
Kiev is more Russian than Moscow is. That would be the stupidest war in Russian history to leave such historic place to pure scum.
I will repeat, one square kilometer of ex ukraine not taken, will be a terrorist stronghold. Why? Time is now.
Just obliterate everything that is called ukraine, or fight them again in 10 years.
No idea what will happen.
But “Lukashenko Belarus” was NEVER an imposed governmnent. In fact, Lukashenko (and Co) were the ones who ended the chaos in Belarus at a time ALL neighbors were in turmoil. Including Russia.
So not, there cannot be a “Lukashenko-style governement in Ukraine”. That gov came to be as a unique home-grown phenomenon. You cannot “impose” or “create” something like that in a war/conflict situation. The social dynamics would not allow such.
You’re right. People seem to forget that Luka is older than Vova in all senses. But what José Oliveira meant by saying “Lukashenko-style government” might be really more about style of governance and less about its historical root.
Moscow‘s goals are Public and simple.
NATO to 1997 borders
No US nukes in NATO
I agree Exile. I believ the Kremlin on this. No need to occupy all of Ukraine… the costs are too high and occupying hostile territory would be an endless counterinsurgency nightmare. However, I would not rule out Russian forts or encampments in the North and West to closely monitor and intervene to maintain a “demilitarized Ukraine”… forward basing of missiles in such installations might be necessary if NATO continues hostile military buildups.
“There aren’t enough prisons for all those lunatics…”
“DeNazify” does not mean prison.
I’m sure there are more than enough bullets.
Do not forget that large part of Banderistan si stolen land from Romania, Hungary and Poland. Check the map of Romania before the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement (1940) and you will see how much of Western Ukraine is in fact Romanian land. Rusia had the military strength to take back its land but Romania and its neighbors ar too weak to claim Ukrainian territories that historically belonged to these countries
Split the assault forces in two, one West toward Odessa, and one North West to Kharkiv.
8 years or shelling and murder, sponsored by America the Brave and the EU.
The poor suffering women : rescued by real men, lead by a real President, Mr. Putin and a Russian Government of the people for the people. Returning peace, security and a normal family life for these wonderful women.
God sent three men to save us all, President Trump, the whirlwind, to expose the evil, President Putin to gather up all the people from many lands and President Xi Jinping to provide the economic power and strength to keep keep us all from starvation.
China, stand your ground like Russia, stay true to your history, culture and nation.
PS what does the letter Z look like in Chinese characters?
Chinese characters are pictographic not phonetic and thus they show images, not sounds.
True, but there is a phonetic alphabet as well (zhuyin), although mostly used in Taiwan province.
The closest thing to “z”, the “zh” sound is written: ㄓ
Thank you for your reply, now l know.
I lived in Singapore for 3.5 years as a young lad. Nice people and I always felt safe. Used too go wandering around Chinese’s markets alone without mum and dad knowing.
I hope you are safe in America and treated well.
We live in Hysterical Times.
I don’t know about the Chechens and the Cossacks, but a BTG of those women would see off NATO.
I read that T80s have been sent in (a German driver once complained about being overtake by a T80 on the Autobahn). As the SMO moves into the open steppes we may be about to witness a different kind of warfare?
Before their advancing columns, bombarding with artillery every location which looks like it would make a good defensive or ambush point, without bothering to verify if there are Ukie troops there or not. This keeps Russian columns moving forwards with very little direct contact, just small mopping up operations, or completely bypassing isolating and demoralized opposing forces troops.
Thank you russian soldiers,
for your valour, for your honour and to your victory!
Not a step back, Russia. This one should stand as our generation´s Stalingrad. Time to end 1000 years of anti-Russia behavior: No half-measures, no appeasing negotiations. If needed, up to Berlin & Paris in order to put straight the unfinished job of 1945.
You can’t fake the pent up emotion emanating from the Lisichansk residents.
F*ck the EU!
Now the risk is the new long-range missiles that Western democracies gave to the Ukrainian Nazis so that they continue killing their own population.
The Yoruba tribe of Africa has a saying: “so long as the bedsheets are not completely rid of lice and fleas, you should not rinse your palms to clean the bloodstains”.
Putin has assured us that the further the range of Ukraine-acquired offensive missile (donated, borrowedu ohr upurchased) the further the new borders will be established off the Donbass and Russia.
I can take that statement to the bank.
The Yoruba tribe has many earthy sayings. One of my faves: “He who sh*ts in the middle of the road will meet flies upon his return”.
Start at 2:20 little old ladies describing the Kiev regime terror
For years the cry ” Allahu Akbar !” was , through the western lens , a sinister omen.
Now it has recovered it’s true meaning of joy and confidence .
You know what ? ALLAHU AKBAR !!!!
ALLAHU AKBAR right back at ya!!!!
Let’s go boys. On to Odessa. The bastards are waiting for you.
Thanks for a post that makes me smile. I seems ironic this appears the day before Americas’ 4th of July celebration of the declaration of independence from Britain.
Pretty startling to see “Russian” forces shouting Alhu Akbar as they occupy Lysichansk… it’s heartbreaking to see the devastation… war is terrible. The Ukie neoNazis brought this on themselves
Pretty startling seeing “Russian” forces shouting Alahu Akbar as they occupy Lysichansk… it’s heartbreaking to see the devastation… war is terrible. But the Ukie neoNazis brought this on themselves
The point is that Muslim Chechens and Orthodox Christian Cossacks are fighting side by side. They are shouting each other’s slogans, and adding one about how they are strong together.
And of course, since “Allahu Akbar” simply means “God is Great”, there is no reason why a Christian can’t say that.
I’m pretty sure this won’t be seen on the six o’clock news in the West.
Wow, Cossacks and Muslims together! This is one for the history books! But I think a lot of Western readers don’t know the significance of this, and why it’s such a big deal to see them fighting side by side and shouting “TOGETHER – POWER[FUL]!”
So, Cossacks are very traditional Orthodox Christians. Centuries ago, they were the hard core of Christian resistance against Ottoman Muslim expansion in what is today Ukraine and southern Russia. Cossacks and Muslims are historical enemies. But here, now, they are fighting (and dying!) together against fascism and NATO.
That is the meaning of them raising those flags and chanting those slogans. Orthodox Christians and Muslims stand together against the collective West and its Nazi puppets.