by Faina Savenkova for the Saker blog
It is impossible for such a site to exist, and its owners are not responsible for their actions.
Journalist Daria Dugina was killed in Russia on Saturday night. I would hardly have known who she was if my friends hadn’t told me that she and her father, Alexander Dugin, were included on the Mirotvorets website, and everyone knew their details. Of course, you don’t have to listen to me, because I’m a child. But for the third year I have been trying to reach out to all world leaders and organizations. All this time I hear jokes that it’s honorable and great to be in the database of this site. But yesterday there was another murder. It’s not for me to figure out who is to blame for this and how it happened. Now I’m just really sorry for Daria’s parents.
But I will say something else: even if we accept the version that the Mirotvorets is fighting the enemies of Ukraine in this way, the main thing remains – they can no longer control the use of information and guarantee that not only nationalists, but also murderers and other criminals will not use the data they post. Tomorrow, someone will not like Roger Waters or Hungarian President Orban, and criminals can fulfill their plans, in which the owners of the Mirotvorets are always happy to help them. I’ve always said that the Mirotvorets are scoundrels and scammers, but now they just kill people with their help. And if such famous people are killed without fear of punishment, then what about me, an ordinary child from Lugansk? About other children whose data is on the site?
You are allowed not to love Russia – this is a personal matter for everyone – but you can not break the laws. You can’t just sentence those you don’t like to death. The Mirotvorets website has not been responsible for what it puts out for a long time. No one knows who will be next. And it doesn’t matter who will kill – Ukrainian nationalists, ISIS or just crazy. I would really like everyone who is on the Mirotvorets to finally start talking and start doing something. It is impossible for such a site to exist, and its owners are not responsible for their actions.
There won’t be a nUkraine too much longer
Maybe they can name the new geography Daria land.
Go back to the hole you emerged from! Stinking US cave dweller!
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Wow you’re a very impressive young woman. Interesting at your age what you are focused on and your knowledge of the world. I have me idea and nephews around your age and all they seem to focus on is pleasure and wants.
God bless you and please keep on your path, ones like you will help make the future world better.
Faina Savenkova: – Thank you for your fine words
I am just an English bloke, live in England, a full on conspiracy theorist, since we (NATO) bombed the sh1t out of Yugoslavia. For personal reasons, I won’t go into (my Ex’s Family come from Serbia), I was very upset.
I know about all the Evil’s of the world , but this – Journalist Daria Dugina’s Murder shocked even bog standard conspiracy theorist me.
I had read at least some of the stuff, her Dad wrote, but it doesn’t particularly stand out in my memory unlike eg Pepe Escobar, The Saker, Dmity Orlov, and numerous others (recently rebuilt an old bookshelf cabinet) I buy books and read them
This story just did my head in….A girl and her teenager daughter, move into the same building as a 30 year old girl – obviously talented…they presumably make friends with her – each other – much the same age – maybe slight differences in accents…but basically the same..similar to eg, me and my girlfriend moving from Manchester to London, when we were about 30, and making new friends, and going to festivals together.
I can’t imagine any “friend” moving into the house where we live, and going to a festival together, and sticking a bomb under my car seat at the festival, so that it explodes with my Dad witnessing it in the car behind
I did believe it at first, but have never personally encountered such evil before, but do believe it is possible, with the latest refined brainwashing techniques – but in Russia????
If our world, has really got this evil, then we are in big trouble.
My wife and I have travelled a lot, over the last 40 years or so..sometimes hitching (little language – mainly communicate in gestures, sign language, hugs and cuddles, and maybe a bit of French, Spanish, even German) Nothing special about us, but people invited us into their homes, cooked meals for us, wouldn’t take any money from us – just wanted to chat with us – maybe learn a bit of English.
Hopefully the evil demons will self destruct. My wife and I have just renewed our passports for the next 10 years. You don’t kill us off that quick. We still have something to give, even if its just a handshake and a smile.
There’s life after covid, if you don’t get jabbed and refuse to wear a mask.
Could Natalia Vovk be a patsy?
No. They have her on video, have tracked her movements and phony license plates and she ran to Estonia immediately after the murder. Her Azov Battalion brother quickly put her car up for sale. In this video, she appears to be checking her own car for a bomb (obviously paranoid because of her own psychopathic mission):
I also read (comment on a forum) that she was trained in Canada. Anyone have any info on that? It’s weird because when I read she’d escaped to Estonia my first thought was I’ll bet she’ll run to Canada. If she does, Russia will just have to kill her there and they DO need to do it.
I thought the Azov Battalion was completely destroyed in Mariupol? Is this not so?
Azov was a regiment in size. Only one battalion was in the Mariupol region.
I am so impressed with you and your work. I have a 14-year-old STEM student in the USA and he’s a complete idiot. His only suitable lot in life is to be a western politician.
In The Hunger Games, the military “police” are called “Peacemakers”. It does not end well for them.
Their own bosses mass-kill them and their families when push comes to shove.
Faina, this is the first I’ve seen of your fine writing. You’re a smart girl and your parents must be very proud of you. Look forward to more and best to you in whatever you do. God bless!
This website is evil. The owners and people that work there are responsible for their actions. The patrons of Ukraine, like Biden are also responsible.
THAT website is evil … .
This one is good.
This is where the hackers need to step in and show that this cannot continue. Doesn’t Russia have a cyber command? Somehow I do not recall reading anything about cyber domain warfare capabilities in Russia
Unfortunately, I cannot read most of the script on the myrotvorets.center website. However, I wonder what the address “Langley, VA, USA” is doing on the top righthand side of their homepage banner ???
Langley, VA, USA
is actually openly at the banner. And then :
“The Myrotvorets Center is an independent non-governmental organization created by a group of scientists, journalists and specialists in the study of signs of crimes against the national security of Ukraine, peace, human security and international law and order, engaged in creative scientific and journalistic activities. With the information support of the Myrotvorets Center, a website of the same name was created, which is also an independent non-state media (mass media).”
And there is linked there : https://neuro.identigraf.center/ where :
Each average user has the ability to make only 5 (five) recognition attempts per day using one mobile device.
This is total surveillance, a ham-fisted version of what NATOstan is already doing. Looks like a prototype.
Thanks for the information – it is precious… These people are evil. We know who our enemies are!
esskumar, above, suggests that Russian hackers take their website. I endorse this. The people behind it are the ones to be eliminated, NOT the people who they want to eliminate,NOT those who struggle for a better world for all.
I am deeply impressed by the clarity and insights of this young girl. I think maybe the hardships she is going through let her sooner grow up. Reminds me of my childhood when the civil war in Yugoslavia started.
However, it’s my deeply conviction that Mirotvorets would be nothing wirhout funding and support from the West. Without it, it would be just a list made by lunatics without real power or influence.
Back then it took me years to realize that my fellow serbian countrymen are not fighting against croatian nationalists but against the combined economic and military power of the West.
Like Russia and the brave people of Donbass today.
God bless Faina Savenkova. My prayers are with you.
Thanks for the article Faina. While the Ukrainian government denies involvement with the despicable murder of Darya Dugina, the Ukrainian government has no credibility when it supports a kill list like Mirotvorets. FACT: People on the kill list have been murdered. That Western nations are providing aid and intelligence to the Ukraine, makes the Western nations complicit in these vile killings of targeted non-combatants.
Some see the events unfolding in the Ukraine as the final chapter of the cosmic struggle between the forces of good and evil. “And the demonic forces assembled the kings in the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon…These kings have one purpose: to yield their power and authority to the beast. 14They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.”
Thank you for your post, Faina. You are absolutely correct to point out this website.
“Faina Savenkova: It is impossible for such a site to exist.”
The only advice I can give you – is to be who you are.
My wife, in England (65) , when she got back from the NHS hospital today – I took her – it was only a 2 miles away (she was used to the journey)..came back on a London Bus and then walked
She was fine…We had a coffee, then she goes outside, and cuts off all the heads, of our largest sunflowers. I thought that was a bit ruthless. Guillotine??? Rope I could understand.
She got run over by a car in November 2016, on the way to her Dance Class, and the Guy who ran over her, phoned me up, on her phone..
He said “I am sorry I have just run over your wife”…and the phone went dead…
I screamed upstairs to my son – Mum’s been hit by a car…
He ran up the road, faster than I could drive my car..
She looked fine in the Ambulance, which was incredibly quick, but they hadn’t strapped her down, though I had a seat belt on, and grabbed hold of her and the trolley. She wasn’t bloody, but her left leg was broken in two places.
Today, they checked out her other leg and foot, and the local NHS hospital, again treated her Brilliantly…she said my friend, who is a nurse..She spent an hour massaging my foot, when were at this gig a few weeks ago. We then we danced on stage. ..were you there?
“I am no longer in any pain and can dance again”
You see, everyone in this war of brainwashing mainly Russia vs England (currently as if it is a football match – with the normal numbers of people being either bombed, shot, burnt to death or jabbed to death- with the crazed Americans cheering on (check out Doctor Strangelove (Peter Sellers) and Get Worried)
England ain’t that bad Yet.
It’s just the Government and the Media that are insane.
Visit us in England. We will be rid of them both soon.
They believed their own propaganda, and have all been jabbed,
We haven’t been jabbed, don’t wear masks, and haven’t had more than a sneeze
That’s Life. Go for it.
I’m going to be a Grandad again soon. I’m sure its pretty much the same in Russia.
There are no reasons why English and Russian people should even dislike each other, let alone have a war and fight..Its ridiculous.
God bless you and yours. I am a student of history, at least I try to be. I have much love for the Russian people. How could an honest person look at the history of the last 100 years or so and not love them. Russians have been through so much. Such evil has been visited upon you and your people. In the west we were never told the truth.
I was a young man in the 1990s. After the fall of the Soviet Union we were never told of Russians starving to death in horrible numbers. I had no idea. We should have been organizing relief efforts. But no. Our leaders just watched.
Now it is the same. Instead of trying to stop the aggression against your people and bring peace, we prolong the conflict that the West started in the first place. A great evil has taken over my country. I pray that we will all survive it and extinguish it.
Prayers for you,
One of your friends in America.