Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks and answers to media questions following talks with Foreign Minister of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu and Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba, Antalya, March 10, 2022
10 March 2022 22:12
Ladies and gentlemen,
Today I had a meeting with Foreign Minister of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu. After that, we held a trilateral meeting with Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba at Turkey’s initiative. The idea was voiced by President of the Republic of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan during a conversation with President Vladimir Putin. We accepted that proposal of our Turkish colleagues because we stand for any contacts on the fundamental issues of the current Ukrainian crisis and on issues connected to looking for ways out of it.
The only thing we made clear straight away was that these contacts must have added value. We believe that they must not be used, first of all by our Ukrainian colleagues who often try to do things like that, to replace or devalue the main existing negotiations track, which is taking place in Belarus between two delegations approved by the presidents of Russia and Ukraine.
Our meeting today has confirmed that there is no alternative to this track. We talked about humanitarian issues, mostly at the initiative of our Turkish friends. We explained the measures our military are taking on the ground to help alleviate the plight of civilians, who are being held hostage and used as human shields by Ukraine’s so-called volunteer battalions and “territorial defence” forces. You know this for a fact. Our officials, including at the Defence Ministry, make statements for the media regarding this several times a day. We reaffirmed that the Russian initiative regarding daily humanitarian corridors remains effective. The routes of these corridors and the opening time are determined by those who are controlling the situation on the ground based on the analysis of the situation and the choice of the safest and most efficient exit routes for civilians.
We reminded our colleagues that during the latest round of talks in Belarus the Russian delegation made highly specific proposals, this time in the form of a legally binding draft document, and that the Ukrainian delegation said they would take them to Kiev for discussion and would provide a concrete reply soon.
We want to use the Belarusian platform to engage in a serious discussion. Instead of drafting informal papers of various kinds, what we want is to agree on matters that have already been recognised and must be resolved in the context of a comprehensive settlement of the Ukrainian crisis and efforts to promote security on the European continent taking into consideration the interests of all countries without exception.
This is the gist of what we spoke about at the meeting today. I am ready to answer your questions.
Question (retranslated from Turkish): Have you already assessed the losses from the war Russia has incurred? Are they smaller or bigger than you expected? Would you consider the possibility of intervening outside of the Ukrainian territory considering that the Ukrainian army has been receiving weapons from the West, as you have discovered? Will you view the deployment of Patriot systems in Poland as a direct threat? Does military retaliation remain a possibility for you?
Sergey Lavrov: I didn’t quite understand your question as it was interpreted to me. If we are talking about the progress of the special military operation, it is the Defence Ministry and, most importantly, the President of Russia as Supreme Commander-in-Chief who share these assessments. He has said more than once that on the whole the operation is going according to plan.
As for arms supplies to Ukraine from abroad, we see that our Western colleagues have been making some very dangerous steps, including the European Union. In fact, it has been encouraging the supplies of lethal weapons to Ukraine, including thousands of MANPADS, which can be taken anywhere and fired at any aim “from the shoulder.” This violates all EU principles and its so-called “values.” Terrorists often use these weapons to threaten civilian aircraft. Where will these thousands of MANPADS end up? We have been asking our EU colleagues this question whenever they start talking about ending the policy of creating a threat for the Russian Federation from Ukraine, which has been going for many years now. We are still waiting for an answer. How will these MANPADS be controlled later? The risks for civilian aircraft will persist for many years to come not only in Ukraine’s air space, but across Europe.
Turning to the question on whether we intend to attack any other countries: we are not planning to attack other countries. In fact, we did not attack Ukraine, either. We have explained many times that the situation in Ukraine has evolved in such a way that it poses a direct threat to Russia’s security. No one listened despite all our reminders, admonitions, calls and proposals during all these years. President Vladimir Putin has spoken on this topic many times. New evidence which is now being uncovered on the liberated territories, in particular in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, demonstrates that there was a detailed plan to attack these people’s republics this month.
We are also outraged by what Pentagon has been doing in the biological laboratories created with its funding. It uses the Ukrainian territory to carry out experiments with pathogens which can then be used to create biological weapons. Washington’s representatives have publicly refuted rumours that they have been engaged in prohibited activity in Ukraine. Not surprisingly, EU countries started saying in one voice that they do not know anything about the Americans working on biological weapons in Ukraine. By the same token, it is not surprising that UN representatives also said that they did not have this information. It goes without saying that the Americans have been doing this in total secrecy. They do this in other post-Soviet countries as well, with their biological weapons laboratories encircling the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China. They will not get away with this. There is the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, which requires states to report any activities on their territories and outside of it.
Those supplying arms to Ukraine must understand that they bear responsibility for their actions. The same goes for those who encourage sending mercenaries to Ukraine to fight there in keeping with the traditions extreme radicals and their battalions introduced in Ukraine’s everyday life.
Question: Russia has used a lot of different words to justify the invasion of Ukraine. You’ve said that it’s for the Ukrainian people. But how can you possibly justify the bombing of a maternity ward and a children’s hospital? Do you agree with President Zelensky that it is an atrocity – to target pregnant mothers and children is, in fact, an atrocity? And also, for the Russian people themselves, today Russia faces a $40 billion default. That’s worse than we’ve seen in the Russian economy since 1917, in the Bolshevik revolution. How will you justify it to the people at home, that you’ve wrecked their economy for an invasion that, frankly, the rest of the world does not believe should be happening?
Sergey Lavrov: Regarding the maternity hospital, we have heard an emotionally charged outcry over the so-called “atrocities” allegedly committed by the Russian armed forces. Three days ago, on March 7, our delegation at the UN Security Council meeting provided facts to prove that this maternity hospital had been taken over by the far-right Azov battalion, who ordered all pregnant women, medical nurses and other personnel out of the building. You can draw your own conclusions about the manipulation of public opinion around the world.
I have seen reports by your network and other Western media today. They are very emotional. Regrettably, no attention is being given to the other side, which would have allowed people to have an objective view of the situation.
As for the Russian economy, well, we will take care of it ourselves. The President and the Government are working on this now. You have said that we are using a lot of different words to justify our actions in Ukraine. We had been trying for years to draw attention to the turning of Ukraine into “anti-Russia.” Since the early 2000s, the West openly demanded before every election that Ukraine make a choice between the West and Russia. That is, you are either with us, or against us. Is this the Western values that were being forced on the Ukrainian people?
We have also seen other things. When a pro-Western candidate got the smallest number of votes, as it happened in 2009, the West forced the Ukrainian Constitutional Court to adopt a decision on the third round of voting, in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. There were a lot of such manipulations in those “best years.” Ukraine was being consistently turned into a pro-Western instrument for Western experiments. Ultimately, NATO demanded that Ukraine must be free to join the bloc, naval bases were being established in Ukraine, and the deployment of missiles, which were a direct threat to the Russian Federation, was discussed. It has now turned out that military biological laboratories were operating there secretly from the public in Ukraine and the rest of the world. When it was suggested that Ukraine should abandon its non-nuclear status, we appealed to the reason and conscience of our Western partners and urged them to coordinate security principles for Europe.
They replied that any issue could be discussed but that we should back off from the matter of NATO’s expansion. They would decide it without us. We should not worry because NATO’s expansion would not affect our security. Why should NATO make decisions on issues of our security and our security interests? This won’t do. Russia won’t be spoken to like that. We are not going to justify our actions in Ukraine. Their goals are perfectly clear: we don’t want the militarisation of Ukraine, whether it is or isn’t a member of NATO, because US [missile] systems targeting our territory can be deployed there without NATO. We don’t want Ukraine to become a neo-Nazi state where battalions wearing SS stripes march before the President of Ukraine, and where these militants are trained to stage terrorist attacks. We want Ukraine to be a neutral state. President Putin said on numerous occasions that while insisting on NATO’s non-expansion we are not going to overlook the security interests of the Ukrainian nation. We are ready to discuss security guarantees for Ukraine together with security guarantees for European countries and Russia. Judging by the recent statements made by President Zelensky, awareness of this approach is growing, which inspires a certain amount of optimism.
As for our economic problems, we will deal with them. We faced difficulties at all stages in our history. I can assure you that this time we will emerge from the crisis with a healthier mindset and mentality. We will have no illusion that the West can be a reliable partner who will not abandon anyone and its own values at the drop of a hat. Could you imagine that private property rights will be buried as easy as one-two-three? Have you ever seen the presumption of innocence, the pillar of the Western legal system, to be openly disregarded and trampled underfoot? I can assure you that we will overcome this. And we will also do everything in our power never to depend on the West in the areas of critical importance for our people.
Question: The deputy head of the Ukrainian Presidential Office says Kiev is ready for a diplomatic settlement, but that it would only be possible through negotiations at the presidential level. Do you consider it appropriate to organise a meeting between the presidents of the two states, now or in the future?
Sergey Lavrov: I think everyone is well aware that Russian President Vladimir Putin never refuses to talk – provided the purpose is to achieve specific agreements. We do not want to meet for the sake of meeting. This topic was touched upon today. I reminded Mr Kuleba that we are always ready to meet if it helps to resolve the problem. However, in recent years, after the anti-constitutional coup d’état, the Ukrainian leaders prefer meeting for the sake of meeting and simulating decision-making for the television cameras. When the Minsk agreements were tightly blocked by the Kiev regime, President Vladimir Zelensky constantly insisted – let’s meet, let’s finally get together again. In turn, we reminded our Ukrainian colleagues that a Normandy format summit was held in Paris in December 2019, all its decisions were transferred to Kiev, and not one of them was actually implemented. What was the Paris meeting for, if another summit needed to be held for the Paris decisions to be finally implemented? They have this tendency to substitute the essence of any problem with various external effects: they also proposed expanding the Normandy format by adding the British, the Americans and Poles. They proposed inviting Turkey too. They either decided to create a parallel Contact Group, or to invite the French and Germans to the Contact Group. The Kiev regime gushed with initiatives. At our meeting today, we reaffirmed that President Vladimir Putin does not refuse to meet with President Vladimir Zelensky. I hope, the need for this meeting will arise someday. But before that happens, preparatory work needs to be completed on the Belarusian track. Three rounds have already taken place. Our extremely specific proposals have been submitted to the Ukrainian side. They promised us to give very specific answers. We are waiting.
Question: Wherever Russia comes with peace and denazification, kidnappings and torture occur. This happened in Crimea. We know about 200 Crimean Tatars and deputy speaker of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People Nariman Dzhelyalov. Women have been abducted in the occupied territories south of the Sea of Azov today. One of them is a deputy of the Zaporozhye Regional Council, a Crimean Tatar Leyla Ibragimova. You seem to have reached a new level. You haven’t been kidnapping women in these eight years. It is important that my colleagues from Turkey know what Russia has been doing with the Crimean Tatars, not only for eight years in Crimea. What do you have to say about this? These are facts. I am talking about my native region where I spent my childhood – Genichesk, Melitopol.
Sergey Lavrov: You said these were facts. I think you should have used a different f-word, which is “fake.” The airwaves, the internet and all the media are full of fakes. I knew nothing about this story, about the alleged kidnapping of a representative of the deputy corps, but I know about other stories that the Kiev regime is known for. Yesterday I heard that member of parliament Yevgeny Shevchenko has disappeared. Found him yet? Denis Kireyev, a member of the delegation at the Belarusian negotiations who participated in the first round, has been killed. First they said the Ukrainian security service executed him without trial or investigation, on charges of treason, then there was a report of some showdown. If you delve into these kinds of stories, you can find a lot of interesting and outrageous details. I believe that trying to take one episode, most likely fictional, and using it to whip up public sentiment, including here in Turkey, in order to promote an anti-Russia policy, is another attempt to substitute serious conversation, negotiations and actions with such external effects. I have not heard about these cases involving deputies. I will inquire about this. I have heard about Shevchenko though, who disappeared in Kiev, not in Zaporozhye.
I think that you have already been filmed and the video will be shown in your country with fanfare. You have attained your goal.
Question: There are some voices about the use of biological weapons in the attack. What can you say about that?
Sergey Lavrov: We are alarmed by the information that has recently come to light that the Pentagon established several dozen military biological laboratories on Ukrainian territory under its programme to set up such facilities all over the world in violation of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention. We have sent an official inquiry, and we will demand an explanation.
I have no information as to whether they have already used their weapons. But there is no doubt that these experiments were far from peaceful, and that their aim was to develop ethnically-oriented biological weapons.
Question: The United States is saying openly that US ambassadors have been given instructions to convince national governments to join the anti-Russia sanctions. Did you give similar instructions to Russian ambassadors to persuade governments not to take part?
Sergey Lavrov: In any situation, we inform Russian ambassadors about our official position and facts, linked with any situation that the Foreign Ministry addresses. We do this in the most detailed manner possible. Russian ambassadors conscientiously inform the governments of host countries on these matters, so that they would have an objective picture.
It is not our tradition to run around the world and force sovereign, independent countries, members of the UN, to fulfil the Big Brother’s order. Actually, we are good-mannered people, as you are aware. The Americans do not conceal the fact that they are demanding that Turkey, India, Egypt, Southeast Asian countries and even China join the illegal unilateral US sanctions. It is impossible to imagine such disrespect for these great countries and civilisations. However, the Americans let nothing pass. For them, any means are acceptable to whip up Russophobia to unprecedented heights. We do not do such things.
Question: You said some time ago that Russia had no intention to invade Ukraine. I think today you said that Russia did not invade Ukraine, when it clearly has. You’ve also said that Russia would not hurt civilians, and thousands have been hurt, homes destroyed, and it seems that hospitals are being attacked. Why should the Ukrainians take you seriously, with all due respect? Why should they, and the rest of the world, believe a word you say?
Sergey Lavrov: I have mentioned hospitals and maternity homes, but you are not listening. This will never be shown and not a single Western media outlet will report that we explained at the UN Security Council three days ago what had happened to that maternity hospital.
As for the claims about who will do what or who will not do what, we wanted to solve this problem diplomatically until the last moment. We presented a detailed document about the Russian-US bilateral agreement and a draft Russia-NATO agreement on all the key European security issues, which takes into account the security interests of all countries without exception, including Ukraine. We were told that Ukraine was “theirs,” that they would decide Ukraine’s fate together with Ukraine, and that they would do as they pleased. They have also rejected many other Russian suggestions, including one on preventing physical land-based threats to the Russian Federation. President of Russia Vladimir Putin has made it clear why he has taken the decision to launch a special military operation. I hope that you (even if you will not be allowed to communicate this to your listeners and viewers) will be able to read the Russian document personally and understand our logic. It is explained there. We would like to see a Ukraine that is friendly, demilitarised, and immune to the danger of the creation of yet another Nazi state, a Ukraine that will not ban the Russian language, Russian culture, and the Russian Orthodox Church. Regrettably, all of this has been done and is reflected in law. All our admonitions during the eight years since the coup in Kiev and our appeals to our Western colleagues that they should bring the Ukrainian authorities to their senses have run against a dead wall of silence. Take, for example, the most obvious things regarding the Russian language. They have passed the law On Ensuring the Functioning of Ukrainian as the State Language, which declares Ukrainian alone as fit for use, while all other languages are open to prejudice in some way or another, including in terms of teaching them at elementary schools and universities. Russia has expressed concern, as have Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania. Then the Ukrainian authorities did a simple trick by making an exception for EU languages under this discriminatory law. Quite elegant! Russian remains standing alone, deprived of all rights, even though its rights are guaranteed by the Ukrainian Constitution. The West fell silent and relaxed. This has shown once again what precisely the West wants Ukraine to do. Its assignment is to constantly work against Russia and all things Russian.
The West’s attitude towards the referendum in Crimea is also an example of the policy of double standards. There was no referendum in Kosovo. NATO, by its bombing attacks, deliberately created a situation, where it could bring about the disintegration of Yugoslavia. When the Kosovo legislature declared independence, the entire West (almost entire) was applauding and supported this as a manifestation of democracy and freedom of choice. But why can Albanians do it while Russians in Crimea cannot? The Albanians in Yugoslavia were not just allowed to do it, they were being encouraged in every way to advance in this direction, because the long-standing goal of a certain country with a rich history – I am referring to Great Britain – has always been to prevent the Balkans, and for that matter Europe as a whole, from having excessively big states. We know this well. Quite likely, the same goal has been pursued in relation of the Russian Federation as well.
We have realised that the point at issue is not Ukraine at all. It is an aggression against all things Russian – interests, religion, culture, language, security, etc. The West’s furious reaction to our actions demonstrates that this is a life and death struggle, a struggle for Russia’s right to be on the political map of the world with full respect for its legitimate interests.
Question: Just now the Ukrainian Foreign Minister said that there was no progress on a ceasefire. My question is: Was there any positive outcome of this meeting? What is your plan to ease the crisis?
Sergey Lavrov: We did not come here to replace the negotiation track on the Belarusian territory set up by the President of Russia and the President of Ukraine. All practical matters are discussed on that track. We explained in meticulous detail what is needed to end this crisis. The requirements include demilitarisation and denazification, ensuring Ukraine’s neutral status and several other things. They are having a serious conversation there. We warned our colleagues at the beginning of today’s meeting that we do not intend to create a parallel track here, which is what Ukraine wants. They always prefer to substitute specific efforts necessary to fulfil agreements with creating new formats that will be widely covered by the media and imitate actual work.
I am not surprised that Dmitry Kuleba declared that the ceasefire negotiations were unsuccessful. There was no intention to agree on a ceasefire. The Ukrainian side is well aware of all these proposals and the sequence of steps described in these proposals.
If the purpose of the meeting was to ask questions such as “let’s cease fire” or “let’s build the humanitarian corridors not the way Russia proposes but as Ukraine wants,” then the point was only to tell the media that all their noble aspirations failed. This fits into the logic of Ukrainian diplomacy that I have already mentioned: going for external effects to create a certain public appearance here and now instead of doing actual work.
Question: My question is about the US ban on imports of Russian oil and gas. What is Russia’s oil policy in Europe? How is Russia reacting to the sanctions by various companies and countries?
Sergey Lavrov: I have already said that we will solve this problem – and the solution will be to no longer depend on our Western partners, be it governments or companies that are acting as tools of Western political aggression against Russia instead of pursuing the interests of their businesses. We will make sure that we never again find ourselves in a similar situation and that neither some Uncle Sam nor anybody else can make decisions aimed at destroying our economy. We will find a way to eliminate this dependence. We should have done it long ago.
As for oil and gas, we are leaving it to the discretion and conscience of our Western colleagues. We have never used oil and gas as a weapon despite their consistent accusations. The first crisis happened in 2010, when Ukrainian authorities started stealing the gas transiting to Europe after they stopped paying for their own. We provided transit gas to Europe without fail in full conformity with our obligations (concerning amounts and rates) and they were stealing it. Do you think Europe did anything to rein them in? Not at all. Europe started saying that Russia is using gas as a weapon – although they knew very well what was actually happening. In relations with Ukraine, they saw only one criterion: how can we use this country to cause damage to Russia? They began deterring Russia even before it was officially announced. Here is an interesting point that speaks volumes about European values. They are cursing us up hill and down dale. They besieged us with sanctions and banned their companies from staying in Russia. However, they say they will continue to buy our oil and gas because otherwise they will freeze. Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, who supervises the energy sector, explained in great detail that we will not be try to persuade anybody to buy our oil and gas. If they want to find a substitute, they are free to do it. We will still have markets for our gas. We already have them.
Question: Does Russia have any red lines regarding countries that send military assistance to Ukraine?
Sergey Lavrov: I have already answered the question about whether we are going to react in any way to the actions by the countries that are arming Ukraine. We believe that these countries pose colossal threats to themselves, especially when they transfer the most dangerous weapons, for example, man-portable air defence systems, and when they watch, with complete dispassion, as the Ukrainian authorities distribute hundreds of thousands of small arms to random people, without any identification. We have never mentioned any plans concerning NATO member countries. But my new colleague, British Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss, spoke about this. She said that if President of Russia Vladimir Putin did not lose in Ukraine, then this would not be the limit of his ambitions, and the Baltic states and Moldova would be his next targets. It is not we who say this, but Elizabeth Truss, who is famous for her catch phrases. When she prophesies an attack on the Baltic states and Moldova, I think that this is quite in line with English culture, politics, and diplomacy, because the British wrote a fake testament of Peter the Great once, in exactly the same way. Sounds like them.
Question: We are witnessing things today that seemed totally unimaginable yesterday. Do you believe a nuclear war could start?
Sergey Lavrov: I do not want to believe it, and I don’t. Please note that in the context of the Ukraine events in recent years, which have aggravated in recent months and weeks, the nuclear topic has been thrown into this discourse exclusively by Western representatives, primarily from NATO. Let me remind you that again, Elizabeth Truss (we seem to be talking a lot about her today) said she did not rule out a conflict between NATO and Russia. How can one even think something like that? Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg (I would say he has become too independent of late, not coordinating his statements with all NATO members as expected) said that if NATO wanted to deploy nuclear weapons on the territory of its Eastern European members, the alliance would do it. My French colleague, Jean-Yves Le Drian, reminded President Vladimir Putin that France also has nuclear weapons. By the way, French Minister of the Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire proudly announced that the West was declaring a total war on Russia (“Totaler Krieg,” as the “non-French” used to say). US President Joe Biden, when asked if there was any alternative to these sanctions from hell, said the only alternative was World War III. It keeps popping up in their subcortex. We never talked about it. It is definitely alarming that the West keeps making those Freudian slips, returning again and again to this topic.
Question: President of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev earlier proposed Kazakhstan as a platform for negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. Is Russia considering this proposal and when can the next negotiations between the conflicting parties be held?
Sergey Lavrov: Russia is grateful to everyone who, out of good intentions, offers their services in helping to resolve the current grave internal Ukrainian crisis and who is ready to help find a solution, taking into account the concerns of all parties, and based on a balance of interests. The problem is that those proposals (which, as I have already said, we are certain that our Turkish friends and our Kazakhstani friends have made with the best of intentions) are not used by the Ukrainian side, which continues to substitute any real action to fulfil its obligations with external effects. I remember that they wanted to relocate the Contact Group to Kazakhstan, when the Minsk agreements were still breathing; they also suggested Turkey as a platform. I am certain that the motive behind all this has been their reluctance to do what they must, do what we have agreed upon. But, as President Vladimir Putin said, and as we have been reiterating, Russia is ready for a variety of formats if they have added value, and are not convened just to do more talking.
Question: Is Russia really serious about seeking a negotiated solution to this crisis? If so, what did you bring to the table today, what progress, if any, did you make?
How can you talk of diplomacy, ceasefires and negotiations, when maternity hospitals are being struck, when so many civilians are dying?
Sergey Lavrov: It is the third time that I have heard this question about the maternity hospital, which means that you haven’t heard what I said about this particular case, which you and your corporation, as well as all other mainstream Western media have reported as headline news. In that maternity hospital, as we said on March 7, 2022, at the UN Security Council, there were no women, children or medical personnel. It has long been taken over by the Azov battalion and other radicals, who have established a firing point there, just as they are doing all over Ukraine, turning people into human shields and deploying strike weapons in residential buildings to attack the positions of the Russian forces and the Donetsk and Lugansk militias.
As for our proposals, which we made back on December 15, 2021, they were extremely serious. We proposed creating a security system, not an entirely new system but a system based on the implementation of the decisions that have been agreed at the highest political level, including at the OSCE summits in Istanbul in 1999 and in Astana in 2010, which said in black and white that all countries have a right to choose alliances, but nobody has the right to strengthen one’s security at the expense of others’ security. That formula was coordinated as a package. It was the summit of diplomacy. That decision was signed by the leaders of Russia, its neighbours and, excuse me for saying this, the free world. No state or group of states, and no organisation in Europe has the right to claim the dominant position, as NATO is doing now in flagrant violation of its member states’ obligations.
When we proposed signing a Russia-NATO agreement to seal the principles I have mentioned here, the principles that have been set out in the documents that were signed at the highest level, codified and became legally binding, we received curt formal replies from Jens Stoltenberg and Josep Borrell, saying that we need not worry and that they were ready to talk with us. The fact that we did not receive replies from the leaders of individual countries but from the heads of NATO and the EU means that Britain and the other Western leaders delegated their powers to them and made them responsible for the implementation or non-implementation of the pledges made in the OSCE summit documents. This is what your leaders, representatives of the West have done to diplomacy.
We still want all issues to be settled diplomatically. But this time we have explained very clearly the necessity of the demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine. This must be done without any procrastination. The direct military, cultural, information, language and civilisational threats to Russia, which were created in the territory of Ukraine, have become perfectly clear and immediate. If we dealt with upright and honest people, the problem would likely have been long settled and security agreements would have been reached. But we do not see any partners who are ready to play fair with us. Several attempts to do this have been made, though. I hope that the Western leaders who have become more concerned over Ukraine will become aware of the existential threat to European security created by their failure to act and their unwillingness to honour previous agreements.
We never wanted a war, and we still don’t want it. We want to end this war, including in the interests of the two republics which refused to recognise the bloody anti-constitutional coup of 2014 and the regime that looked on proudly and cynically when its representatives burned people alive in Odessa, that sent warplanes to bomb central Lugansk, and that has bombed, attacked and shelled residential districts, villages, schools and kindergartens for the past eight years. There is a lot of evidence, because we and our journalists have been showing this 24/7 (I bow my head to all those who have died doing this). And all these eight years, Western journalists hardly ever went to the contact line. Instead, they showed how well people were living in the other part of Ukraine. Some 70 or 80 percent of the destruction is in the territory of the people’s republics, which shows who is usually the first to attack. Once members of your corporation, the BBC, spent several days there, and afterwards, I have to say, produced a relatively objective report. But I don’t remember anyone in the West providing daily coverage of the Ukrainian regime’s aggression against its own people, its sabotage of the Minsk agreements, which were approved by the UN Security Council, and its open refusal to implement that vital document. If we look at your current reports from Ukraine and compare them to what you have been telling your audiences for the past eight years, it will provide a revealing picture about freedom of speech, access to information and many other things, which have been approved by OSCE decisions adopted at the highest political level and which our Western colleagues do not quite respect, as we see it.
Lavrov is very competent to be in your position. At
Russia has meritocracy. When we look at Western leaders, biological laboratories, the stubbornness of Western populations, perhaps Putin has come to the conclusion that humanity will have nuclear war. So maybe Putin is trying to delay nuclear war. But apparently, the West does not recognize this humanist effort by Putin, and today I think that the probability of world war is about 70%.
Most people are evil and blind. Pakistan’s prime minister said that Pakistan is not a slave to Westerners, and that the West is not making great demands of Pakistan: ‘Are we its slaves?’ https://www.trtworld.com/asia/are-we-your-slaves-pakistani-premier-hits-out-at-west-over-russia-letter-55313
Lavrov’s mission is tough, but he is focused and virtuous, cultured and prepared for this moment.
Immediate communication capability would be defense AI interconnected network, network can be starlink.
humanity is tired, stressed. It’s like people don’t care if we have nuclear war. It’s an impressive sleep.
Some time there was a launch problem by NASA, and the answer was accident according to NASA, said it was “solar wind”.
And now the disinformation war.
second part, Internet communications problem.
third party shutdown energy reserves.
next step nuclear war china and russia already have 6G closed network, controlled by A.I.
Another detail, quantum network technology could disconnect the Internet and reconnect in fractions of seconds, and it is imperceptible.
nuclear war, large proportions were carried out, many Internet invasions this beginning of the year, in strategic points and drone satellites fall.
It is undeniable that we are facing an escalation. It’s hard to know what’s behind this Chinese silence. As if that wasn’t enough, we have the problem of Taiwan, Iran, etc. The planet is a powder keg.
Not sure if this will answer any questions but reports of a massive solar flare that will effect earth for days.
The Natoland MSM will blame that on Russia also..…Putin Dunnit!!!
It is time for Mr.Lavrov and VVP show western presstitutes in the time of press conferences -real atrocities what not so glorious ukr. military done in the Donbas republics right on screen……most of americans do not know nothing about10,000 + death of civilians include over100 children…..masacre in Odessa etc….
The extraordinary efforts taken to stifel accurate reporting including the outright censorship of various media and channels by the self-proclaimed world champion of free speech prevents this from happening now. Despite that the Empire of Lies has been forced to double-down because of the exposure of biological weapons labs.
10 years after the Vietnam War everyone knew that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident never happened. 5 years after the first Iraq War everyone knew that Iraqi soldiers did not throw Kuwaiti babies out of incubators. 2 years after the second Iraq War everyone knew that there were no WMDs and that Saddam was not behind 9/11. 10 minutes after Jeffery Epstein died everyone knew he did not commit suicide.
See a pattern here?
Exponential progression in the speed of information spread due to the internet is what will destroy those who soooooooo badly need destroying. If we can see that so can (((They)))
THAT is why the internet will be collapsed in the very near future. The balance between profiting from it as a means of surveilance and control v the loss of profit from an awake population aware of the endless lies will cease to be in the favour of those who ultimately control the world and the plug will get pulled.
At that point if you hold it you own it, if you can keep it.
UM….i lived through the days when the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was made…i knew then, instantly that it was a False Flag…but that is because i was so enthusiastic about the USA in my student days…and the more enthusiastic you are about a topic, the more you study it…and then you uncover a Can of Worms…and that was before the days of the Internet. I just used my own intuitive reasoning…based on researching the methodology of the many previous False Flags…
many people taking advantage of the war to make a profit. site to date ukrainian women, being made by a ukrainian. This is horrible, this is low, unforgivable.
Lavrov, showing the patience of 10,000 Toaist Monks. Brilliant.
Can’t be anything more senseless, than talking to western media, I feel sorry for Mr.Lavrov.
Being in a room with those brain-dead lie-repeaters, would drive me insane.
You know, you’re talking to robots, when you answer a question and get asked the same all over again and again.
One question would have been of great interest to me,all the while the FM was in Turkey:
How is Turkey still allowed, to send drones to the Ukies?
please use google translate – Mod.
Lavrov ou autre Russe utilisent un Kata en king-fu qu’on appel le “Kata de l’ivrogne” ( jouer le fou avec les vrais fous) pour les foudroyer et il réussissent bien.
Lavrov or other Russians use a King Fu Kata called the “Drunkard Kata” (playing the madman with real madmen) to strike them down and they do well.
“You know you are talking to malfunctioning robots when you answer a question and get asked the same all over again.”
They aren’t even functioning as robots. They are animal kingdom consciousness in human form. Its all quite bizarre. These people are devolving into apes by conscious choice, grasping harder onto their corrupted beliefs over objective truth at every opportunity,
You are definitively right, evolution in the western world absolutely stopped.
Looking around, almost everyone is regressing,retarding.
Animals like apes, can actually learn, but even this capability seems lost in most humans.
Please provide a google translation yourselve – Mod.
L’ancien président Donald Trump a déclaré le 10 mars que l’invasion de l’Ukraine par la Russie “est vraiment un crime contre l’humanité” qui “ne se serait jamais produit” s’il était encore en poste.
D’après notre analyse neutre sur trump : https://justicenetdz.blogspot.com/2021/12/analyse-sur-d-trump.html
A vous de jugez (utilsez google traduction)
De notre cote on a déjà conclus que biden ou trump, politiques Rouge ou bleu, ne sont que 2 faces d’une meme piece de monnaie, trump s’il était encore en poste une WW3 aurait déjà commence.
“I know him [Putin] well and this is not something that was going to happen, but let’s see what happens, let’s watch it,” Trump said.
I read the link you sent, and Trump has cognitive dissonance. In these last few days I have learned that the worst kind of evil devil is the devil dressed as an angel with good intentions. Trump is not on the right side of history, he is confused and does not understand all the complexity. He uses his power, fame to create havoc. Now at this moment he is forced to get off the fence, and show his ignorance, cynicism and opportunism. Trump is an opportunist with cognitive dissonance.
Anyone who sits in ear-shot of whining Hannity suffers from cognitive dissonance. When VVP visited Bush 43 at Crawford Ranch, not a sound from usa legacy media. Yet, 24-7 attacks on DJT for 4 years for even alluding to try and work out issues with VVP. The usa legacy media is like a rabid dog, chasing a bone it never finds.
Mod is too busy to do the translation for you
C’est toujours un sentiment très fort d’admiration pour les discours de Monsieur Lavrov.
De ce point de vue je pense que la Russie n’a pas perdu la guerre de la communication.
Ceux qui peuvent comprendre le comprennent et s’inclinent.
Les autres ne comptent pas, eux même ne se souviendront plus demain de ce qu’ils pensaient et ont dit aujourd’hui.
Pour preuve, cet article publié par Le Figaro avec Andreï Makine.
A part les trolls rémunérés il est impressionnant de constater combien les lecteurs ont été émus et impressionnés par la justesse de ses propos.
Il faut savoir qu’il y a quelques années la Commission UE avait approuvé un fond de 2 millions € pour payer des “commentateurs” sur les réseaux sociaux.
En 2012, je crois.
Ai Translation of Moderato’s post:
I think that Russia has not lost the communication war.
Those who can understand will understand. The others will not remember tomorrow what they thought and said today.
As proof, the article published by Le Figaro with Andreï Makine. Apart from paid trolls, the readers were moved and impressed by the accuracy of his remarks.
As a U.S. citizen about the same age as Mr. Lavrov, I would like to say, “Thank you very much,” after reading all of his comments.
He patiently explains, over and over, Russia’s position and actions. I am appalled at the ongoing hysteria in MSM… papers, internet, television. I rely on this site to direct me to facts and opinions hard to find and important to see. I don’t envy his job. I do respect his demeanor and diplomatic skills. They help calm the histrionics which I and other rational Americans must endeavor to ignore. I pray for peace every day. Even as a young man 50 years ago I refused to go to Vietnam, I was a conscientious objector. The same doubt of gov’t propaganda that I had then I have never lost. I question all assertions until I have found multiple sources of verifiable facts. This requires a sense of history, among other things…
Please remember that our federal gov’t no longer represents the citizens it purports to serve. I always say, we Americans are a good people but poorly educated and heavily indoctrinated.
> I always say, we Americans are a good people but poorly educated and heavily indoctrinated.
I always respond like this: Americans are good people because they can afford to be. Their elected politicians do all the dirty work for them
I located this address, from 2019 or earlier, forgot to mention it before…..
Благодарю Вас, г-н Лавров, за Ваше поведение и терпение. Я американский гражданин (примерно вашего возраста). Полвека назад, будучи молодым человеком, я был отказником по соображениям совести во время войны во Вьетнаме. Я не верил своему правительству тогда и не верю им сейчас. Стало еще хуже. Федеральное правительство коррумпировано и некомпетентно. МСМ является стенографистом правительства. Ни одна из сущностей не представляет фактические потребности или образование граждан, а вместо этого находится в плену денег и власти. Мы должны отключиться от ежедневной истерики и прислушаться к голосам разума, таким как ваш. Спасибо и The Saker.
Thank you, Mr. Lavrov, for your behavior and patience. I am an American citizen (about your age). Half a century ago, as a young man, I was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War. I didn’t believe my government then and I don’t believe them now. It got even worse. The federal government is corrupt and incompetent. MSM is the government’s stenographer. None of the entities represents the actual needs or education of citizens, but instead is in thrall to money and power. We need to disconnect from the daily hysteria and listen to the voices of reason, such as yours. Thank you and The Saker.
In Persian we have saying that when someone has an incredible, almost unbearable amount of patience , we say He has the Patience of Ayoob or Job.
Lavrov has the patience of hundreds of Ayoobs, I could cry for him.
Very True Sir!
Still my patience with Russia’s leaders patience all round is wearing thin as patience is not something the troops/boots on the ground enjoy, knee deep in mud and expected to show restraint while casualties grow in numbers.
What were all these people/students thinking in Mariupol over the 8 years the neo-Nazis were digging in, especially say 6 months before the Special Operation?
Has anyone heard of the ‘Queensbury Rules’ drafted in London, England in the middle of the 19th century, by the Marquess of same name? Even though it was applied to boxing, the English use it to underscore, don’t laugh, fair play. Well Putin seems to abide by fair play and International Law, while his Enemies employ every dirty trick imaginable.
“We will have no illusion that the West can be a reliable partner who will not abandon anyone and its own values at the drop of a hat”
“And we will also do everything in our power never to depend on the West in the areas of critical importance for our people”
“When she (Liz Truss) prophesies an attack on the Baltic states and Moldova, I think that this is quite in line with English culture, politics, and diplomacy, because the British wrote a fake testament of Peter the Great once, in exactly the same way. Sounds like them”.
Mr Lavrov, sir, I love you.
Setting aside the ongoing battle to discern facts from the media mirage, there is one thing that remains to be clear: the individuals in leadership positions in the Russian Federation are far beyond the caliber of their “western” counterparts.
I believe this is cultural – and speaks to the seriousness in which Russia operates, in general, as compared to the skinsuit that is the USA/NATO, but more importantly that it is also a reflection of the deeper truths at work.
When one is tasked with propping up an empire of lies, they cannot achieve such clarity, definitive and declarative language, and certainty of cause and purpose.
With truth on your side, you become a conduit for what is right, and you carry a confidence and certainty that reflects that moral fortitude. This stands in stark relief when juxtaposed against the jesters and bumbling bureaucrats whose primary function is to maintain a web of lies that grows by the day.
This reveals in many ways, but even to the casual observer of this unfolding history it is clear that there are no leaders who represent the actual interests of the American people; only spokesmen for some dark force that desires to control the world, seemingly by destroying the heritage and cultures that made it all possible.
In this the ‘Empire’ is an appropriate label but fails to fully appreciate that the people under that banner are atomized, powerless, and brainwashed to subordinate their own interests in the name of the vampires who control the institutions.
Ukraine is both a microcosm and an amplification of the real war that has been raging for decades. A war that has methodically separated people from their God given right to be a nation, reflect their unique cultural values, and preserve their way of life for their children.
I pray for the people of Ukraine as I pray for my own brothers here in the former USA who are under occupation. And I pray for the soldiers and people of Russia that they will find a swift and decisive resolution to their prosecution of their cause. Which I believe is a higher cause to cast off the same dark forces who have stolen my nation.
Yep, as an engineer in corporate america you see how the game works. If a company is small, growing, and hungry, merit is recognized and promoted because you cant afford BS. As it gets larger, then becomes owned by shareholders who don’t work there or create any value, effectively parasites skimming value others create, merit starts to become distorted by politics. After so many iterations of fake it till you make it, everyone in leadership is fake and anyone that is real is viewed as threat to be eliminated. As above so below.
I thought the same thing about Putin, Lavrov, and most other russians I have observed in the last 8yrs or so. They understand leadership is a service position. To serve all, not to serve self at expense to other. And so its easier for those who are real, to be real leaders. They cannot afford fakes and imposters, there has been enough of that. Whatever your spiritual beliefs are, its certain that being on the side of truth will give you more clarity and purpose than being a puppet to the dark side of the force could ever hope to imitate. And the imitation of it is almost laughable in how poor it is in the west at this point.
What you write about shareholders, is, in my mind, perfectly symbolized in the American term “making” money. In other parts of the world, where people are working productively to get by, it’s called “earning” your money.
Shareholder and entrepreneurs just wanna make as much cash, quick and dirty, the fast buck.
“And also, for the Russian people themselves, today Russia faces a $40 billion default. That’s worse than we’ve seen in the Russian economy since 1917, in the Bolshevik revolution.”
I read original source of that comment. World’s Bank chief economist said that Russia started to refuse paying some debts to the West. Russia was robbed by the West, so Russia is now withhelding West’s money.
Where is the problem for that phony journalist? Russia won’t borrow anymore money from Western powers. Screw the lenders, that’s all.
It’s the equivalent of a thug throwing a Molotov cocktail through someone’s window and then demanding the victim cover the cost of the petrol and bottle. F*ckem.
I understood payments would be made – in rubles.
Some clever Saker reader yesterday suggested a ‘surcharge’ on Russian gas exports to Europe. Reason being the contractual price being 4/5 times below spot/market prices. This surcharge being justified by unfriendly harmfulEU actions (sanctions) on Russia.
Why can’t Russia (wake the f*** up ) and stick the boot in, they’d be more than justified?
This surcharge would pay for the costs of Russia’s Special Operation. It would go to paying the compensation to Russian families who’ve lost loved ones.
Wake Up Russia, this is ‘so simple’ to enforce. This while the west continues 3/4/5 rounds of sanctions.
Then they become the monster they are accused of being by the monster. Just not selling it to them is a better option. Trade freely or don’t trade. They are against a force that is accustomed to rigging the market in its favor. Sovereignty is a two way street. No matter how high you are in the master-slave pyramid, you are a still a slave. The capstone is permanently occupied. Don’t play with people that think they own you or have designs on it. They are enslaved, and as soon as you join that game, you become enslaved by it too. If all you want out of existence is to be a house slave over a field slave, go for it, you might achieve it.
I think Russia understands sovereignty. Its learned the hard way over the last 100+yrs.
US-NATO have declared War on Russia, unofficially or not.
You’ve heard of Force Majeure?
OK have it your way cancel contract sighting above and renegotiate.
Remember, European energy supplies from Russia are indirectly propping up the Civil War in Ukraine.
Oh, no debate, the mask of NATO is used to obscure a force desiring total domination and to destroy all those who dare to say, “no thanks, I’m good being my own individual”. Empire only wants subjects, not partners.
How to work within that framework is a multidimensional minefield. It just seems wiser to stay on your own turf, protect your turf, and do your own thing within it independently, until you find those that are interested in collaborating and co-operating, as interdependent individuals. You know, the basic common sense of mutually beneficial relationships.
Trying to work with those who don’t understand win-win, and can only feel like they win if other loses, is just a losing proposition. The sanctions expose the mentality of the forces behind NATO. They will hurt themselves as long they feel like they will hurt other more, they still consider that a win. They are completely delusional. And yeah I get that within that realization is the rational to just make them pay a bit more for what they need. But you just joined their game by doing so. Maybe its the right thing to do, take their money to fund your independence development. But I also think it comes with pitfalls that will retard your development.
As always, it depends on what you’re willing to do.
I assume it’s because Russia knows all the EU windbags will switch sides as soon as the opportunity arises. It’s especially true of the french president, he’s in campaign for his reelection so he pretends to believe all the Ukrainian fake news, but that guy is far too smart to not know what’s really going on. Also he tried for months to solve the Minsk agreements not being enforced issue, so he’s aware of what this war is first about. Problem is he only surrounds himself with idiots to avoid political competition, and then we have wonders happen like our retarded minister of finances declaring total economical war on Russia. And his voters are the brainwashed EU slave crowd, so he doesn’t have a lot of space to wiggle out of the west PsyOps.
The true enemy of Russia is the US and UK, EU has such an unified front because these two are menacing them of sanctions if they don’t go with the bullshit, and EU leaders are spineless.
It’s very plausible that when Putin is replaced by another president (I believe he’s on his second term again?) a fair amount of EU leaders will find in this an excellent excuse to thaw their relation with Russia. If Lavrov patience is of any indication, Russia considers the west as particularly insufferable spoiled children (unfortunately armed children), and is willing to be the grown-up in the room.
And damn, that Lavrov is a true political leader. I wish we had anyone half as competent as him in France.
I’ll second that. The UK, particularly, and US are THE most dangerous countries on the planet. Russia will be coming up to a very dangerous period when those two parasites may take the opportunity to attack. In WW2 they sat back and did nothing and let Poland and Germany slug it out, then watched Germany slug it out with Russia. The plan then, when they incorrectly assumed Russia would be weak, was to launch an attack on Russia,
Both WW1 & 2 were a battle between the UK and Germany for Russia.
“The German concept of Lebensraum, (living space) comprised policies and practices of settler colonialism which proliferated in Germany from the 1890s to the 1940s. First popularised around 1901, Lebensraum became a geopolitical goal of Imperial Germany in World War I (1914–1918) originally, as the core element of the Septemberprogramm of territorial expansion. The most extreme form of this ideology was supported by the Nazi Party. Lebensraum was one of the leading motivations Nazi Germany had in initiating the Second World War and would continue this policy until the end of World War II.
Following Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, Lebensraum became an ideological principle of Nazism and provided justification for the German territorial expansion into Central and Eastern Europe. The Nazi Generalplan Ost policy (Master Plan for the East) was based on its tenets. It stipulated that Germany required a Lebensraum necessary for its survival and that most of the indigenous populations of Central and Eastern Europe would have to be removed permanently (either through mass deportation to Siberia, extermination, or enslavement) including ****Polish****, ****Ukrainian****, Russian, ****Czech**** and other Slavic nations considered non-Aryan. The Nazi government aimed at repopulating these lands with Germanic colonists in the name of Lebensraum. Entire indigenous populations were decimated by starvation, allowing for their own agricultural surplus to feed Germany.”
“The attack on the maternity ward” accusation, despite being repeated over and over is losing traction because the script was amateurish.
“17 wounded”?! What, no babies? Bring the Ukrainian ambassador’s daughter, or a niece (whichever is available) in a nurse uniform to testify before the US Congress as an eyewitness to Russian soldiers’ snatching Ukrainian babies from the incubators and smashing their tender little heads to the floor. Screw originality. Adaptations of formerly successful plots work better.
There was one ‘pregnant’ woman – a ‘beauty influencer’ photographed walking down some stairs carrying a large bag in one hand. Later she was shown being stretchered across the debris from the explosion, containing who knows what unexploded material, towards ambulances on the far side. On the stairs, her ‘bump’ looked unaturally cylindrical but a discretely raised clothing revealed signs of a more conventional ‘bump’. Goven she made her living dealing with beauty products, apparently for pregnant women, maybe she was as skilled with prosthetics as she is with makeup. Also, it would have thought it would have been a lot easier to walk her out of the undamaged main entrance. But that is why I am not a world renowned Hollywood script writer.
They need to bring in the Real Pros at this sort of thing – The White Helmets (Nobel Peace Prize pending).
Mr. Foreign Secretary: You answered all questions, many from hostile reporters, fairly. However, you are wasting your breath. You will never get a fair and honest shake in the West. You should re-visit the American movie, “Patton”, where the General sums up the mindset of the American military. To paraphrase, he tells his troops to ignore instructions to react tamely and gentlemanly in time of war. He issues the command to”kill the other side’s bastards before they kill our bastards”. For too long, Russia has turned the other cheek to the West in order to get a pat on the back. [Mod: unnecessary quip removed] The history of the U.S. and Europe is one of belligerent, predatory aggression. Anyone seeking praise from them is bound to get hurt. Think genocide, slavery, torture and brutality. That is the how you resist the sweet words and gestures.
What a truly civilized human being and statesman that Sergey Lavrov.
If we had just a few of his caliber in the Western leadership, things might have turned out differently and we could be enjoying the prosperity and peace that come from cooperation and respect; but alas the Western leadership does not get the concept of ‘win/win.’
I totally agree with what you have said. I have long thought that Sergey Lavrov was a prince among men, but with every press release my admiration grows. As someone posted upthread, the patience of Job indeed. Even when his frustration and irritation show, it’s civilized. I am learning from him, trying to, anyway. Russia is lucky to have him – Russia produced him. The world is lucky to have him. If only we had such men in the US!
The US has such men/women. Every country does. And you are one of them. They just aren’t allowed anywhere near the microphone or the levers of stolen power in a corrupt system.
Your savior is in the mirror. External saviors are a model to emulate, just like you said. Not to sit around and wait for. Christ is returning to anyone that is willing to embody that consciousness. The US is a prime location for this development as a parallel society. Render unto to Caesar what is Caesar’s. The lies, the suffering, the injustice, the toxicity, you don’t need to keep any of that for yourself. Be the change you wish to see in the world, and see the world change. We have way more power than they do. They know that because they stole it from us, and they are desperate to keep us from taking it back.
We have Ron Paul, but Republican voters instead chose the insufferable warmongers John McCain and Mitt Romney in 2008 and 2012, respectively.
The domination of the USA over Europe
is expressed, for example, in the fact that the USA assigns the predicates “good” and “evil” to the states of this world and Europe (EU) takes over this assignment. A state that receives the predicate “evil” from the USA is now jointly pushed into a corner by the USA and the EU.
Who is this power that decides which states in this world should be pushed into a corner or destroyed and gives ethical reasons for this? “US presidents fulfil their three essential duties, protecting Wall Street, Israel and the military budget, but not much else.” This addresses the criteria of “good” and “evil” that apply to the US. Can Europe benefit from adopting them or can the people of the USA benefit from them? We are clear about this: the good is what is to be kept alive and promoted, whereas the evil is to be taken out of the way. That means, for example: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen are to be cleared out of the way and finally also Russia, China and Iran – you see: a full programme! Can the people of the EU (Europe) benefit from this? And remember, the EU leaders are not getting giddy about this programme, they are throwing themselves into the chest as heralds of the good – because what is to be promoted and kept alive is the good, that is, the life principle of the financial, economic and intellectual elites of the United States of America (USA).
And now the question of the inquisition: Mr H., are you for or against the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
If this Russian forward strategy has prevented the third world war, I am for it. Because in the focal point of Ukraine, something was building up that would have ended either with the destruction of Russia as an independent state or with a world war – so it was better to let the air out of this development beforehand, even if in God’s name it cost an invasion of another country.
There aren’t many heroes in the world; Lavrov is clearly one of them.
He should have said that any “journalist” that asked a question about a fake Russian attack. Would not only would it not be answered ,but they would be removed and barred from any future press conferences. There were 4 or 5 questions about the fake Russian attack on the maternity hospital. After one question no more should have been tolerated.The pro-West reporters entire purpose of those questions was to blacken Russia’s reputation around the world. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out their game.
You may have already seen the Credit Swiss’ recent newsletter (9 March 2022), by short-term rate strategist Zoltan Pozsar.
The sanctions are backfiring – the west will have the nastiest crisis of its history!
He states that:
“We are witnessing the birth of Bretton Woods III – a new world (monetary) order centered around commodity-based currencies in the East that will likely weaken the Eurodollar system and also contribute to inflationary forces in the West.”
According to him, a crisis of commodities is unfolding:
“Commodities are collateral, and collateral is money, and this crisis is about the rising allure of outside money over inside money. Bretton Woods II was built on inside money, and its foundations crumbled a week ago when the G7 seized Russia’s FX reserves…”
He also says that sanctions-driven commodity price moves are threatening financial stability in the West:
“Anyone in the commodities world is experiencing a perfect storm… But that’s precisely what happens when the West sanctions the single-largest commodity producer of the world, which sells virtually everything. What we are seeing at the 50-year anniversary of the 1973 OPEC supply shock is something similar but substantially worse – the 2022 Russia supply shock, which isn’t driven by the supplier but the consumer.
The commodities market is much more financialized and leveraged today than it was during the 1973 OPEC supply crisis, and today’s Russian supply crisis is much bigger, much more broad-based, and much more correlated. It’s scarier.”
He states that:
“If we are right, and if this is a ‘crisis of commodities’ – a 2008 of sorts thematically, if not in terms of size or severity – who will provide the backstop? [kind of insurance policy; a financial arrangement that creates a secondary source of funds] We see but only one entity: the PBoC!” [People’s Bank of China]
“The Fed and other central banks will be able to provide liquidity backstops… …but those will be Band-Aid solutions. The true problem here is not liquidity per se. Liquidity is just a manifestation of a larger problem, which is the Russian-non-Russian commodities basis, which only China will be able to close.
Do you see what I see?
Do you see inflation in the West written all over this like I do?
“This crisis is not like anything we have seen since President Nixon took the U.S. dollar off gold in 1971 – the end of the era of commodity-based money. When this crisis (and war) is over, the U.S. dollar should be much weaker and, on the flipside, the renminbi much stronger, backed by a basket of commodities.
From the Bretton Woods era backed by gold bullion, to Bretton Woods II backed by inside money (Treasuries with un-hedgeable confiscation risks), to Bretton Woods III backed by outside money (gold bullion and other commodities).
After this war is over, “money” will never be the same again… …and Bitcoin (if it still exists then) will probably benefit from all this.”
I suppose that a Russian or Chinese economist would go further and would predict that the western way is finished. After this crisis, a New World – the multipolar world – will have been born.
Wow, the tone has changed and he held nothing back. Some folks are going to get steamrolled if they do not knock it off. One way or another, after Ukraine has been settled, there will be more things to be straightened out.
Lavrov is a rock star! The repetitious questions by the dumb media about the maternity hospitals just shows, not only how clueless those people are, but how wilfully ignorant they are. Even most children don’t have to be told something three times before they get it.
A Terrible Story. Unit 731, China, Korea, Ukraine;
“Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department”, “Vaccines“ and “Biological Research Facilities“
“They do this in other post-Soviet countries as well, with their biological weapons laboratories encircling the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China. They will not get away with this.“
– Sergey Lavrov
“Similar research (using fleas and lice as BW agents) was carried out in the 1940s on the development of biological weapons components by the Japanese infamous unit 731, whose members later fled to the US to escape prosecution for war crimes.“
– Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia at UNSC briefing on biological laboratories in Ukraine
“We do not sit in this chamber to be an audience for Russia’s domestic propaganda, and we should not allow Russia to use its permeant seat to spread disinformation and lies.”
– The UK’s ambassador to the UN Dame Barbara Woodward
“The credibility of information provided by Kremlin is in general very doubtful and low. Russian disinformation has a track record of promoting manipulative narratives about biological weapons and alleged ‘secret labs’.”
– EU foreign affairs spokesman Peter Stano
“Sen. Marco Rubio: Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine has a biological research facilities …“
Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification?
“Unit 731 was based in the Pingfang district of Harbin, … and had active branch offices throughout China and Southeast Asia. It was officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the Kwantung Army (…)
In 2002, Changde, China, site of the plague flea bombing, held an “International Symposium on the Crimes of Bacteriological Warfare”, which estimated that the number of people slaughtered by the Imperial Japanese Army germ warfare and other human experiments was around 580,000. The American historian Sheldon H. Harris states that over 200,000 died. (…)
A member of the Yokusan Sonendan paramilitary political youth branch, who worked for Unit 731, stated that not only were Chinese, Russians, and Koreans present, but also Americans, British, and French people.
Sheldon H. Harris documented that the victims were generally political dissidents, communist sympathizers, ordinary criminals, impoverished civilians, and the mentally disabled. Author Seiichi Morimura estimates that almost 70 percent of the victims who died in the Pingfang camp were Chinese (both military and civilian), while close to 30 percent of the victims were Russian.
No one who entered Unit 731 came out alive. … ”
– Wikipedia, Unit 731
“Biological research facilities” – “Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification” – The Empire of Lies denies it, but Chinese, Russians and Koreans remember it very well.
“American grant of immunity
… Lieutenant Colonel Murray Sanders … was a highly regarded microbiologist and a member of America’s military center for biological weapons. Sanders’s duty was to investigate Japanese biological warfare activity. (…) The Japanese wanted to avoid prosecution under the Soviet legal system, so, … Sanders received a manuscript describing Japan’s involvement in biological warfare. Sanders took this information to General Douglas MacArthur …
MacArthur struck a deal with Japanese informants: He secretly granted immunity to the physicians of Unit 731, including their leader, in exchange for providing America, but not the other wartime allies, with their research on biological warfare and data from human experimentation. (…) The Americans believed that the research data was valuable and did not want other nations, particularly the Soviet Union, to acquire data on biological weapons.“
– Wikipedia, Unit 731
Yes, Wikipedia. So far, their text is not bad at all, but then:
“Among American researchers, there was a postwar consensus that Unit 731’s human experimentation data was of little value to America’s development of medical and biological weapons.“
– Wikipedia, Unit 731
You can read the missing part here:
”Revealed: The long-suppressed official report on US biowarfare in North Korea
(…) Written largely by the most prestigious British scientist of his day [Joseph Needham], this official report, containing hundreds of pages of evidence about the use of US biological weapons during the Korean War, was effectively suppressed upon its original release in 1952. (…)
One important part of the ISC report guaranteed its suppression in the United States after its initial publication. The report discussed the activities of Imperial Japan’s biological warfare detachment, Unit 731, and the U.S. interest in its activities. Back in 1952, collaboration between the U.S. and Japanese war criminals using biological weapons was top secret, and totally denied by the U.S.”
– By Jeffrey S. Kaye – Feb 20, 2018
“Report of International Scientific Commission for the Investigation of the Facts Concerning Bacterial Warfare in Korea and China”
This criminals are very desperate right now.
George Soros is a putrid, lying, senile sack of s**t.
That is not anything important, but, at least for me, it is very very funny.
We here in Russia talked for some years we were designated to be XXI century Jews.
Saker’s essay “The Great Western Wall vs Snow Niggers” is to the point too.
There is one artist, Ivan Urgant.
With a traditional scheme of surname passing in marriages, he should had been Milinder, but his Jew grandpa decided to assimilate.
His hyper-Russian name Ivan is following the pattern, among native Russians it was often looked upon as too folklore, too pretensious and too obsolete at once. But among people who strive to stress their Rusianness it is a natural choice.
Dunno if he liked his name or felt hurt by it.
As wiki says, the guys hosted a rather popular humor+interviews show on Russian TV. Did not watched it, because the taste of the jokes was not quite my cup of tea. But then said, maintaining quality when you had to trade jokes every evening on schedule should be very hard, so some dubious taste could be expected.
The guy is no questions talented, when they had not to work on schedule they could produce really greate things, like Italy-80 styled show Ciao-2020. It was fantastic job. Was.
As the war in Ukraine started, the guy started more and more virtue-signalling for Ukraine. He did it so hard, that he had to flee into Israel.
Well, this is all sad, but nothing funny, right?
Comic relief is here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzlzGhKI5Y1LIeDJI53cWjQ
This channel is said to be blocked for Russia, but actually it is blocked for ALL the countries, globally.
decade or two of Urgant’s TV starring – gone in a puff of smoke, when YT took on Russia and Russian “disinformaiton”.
With all his desperate brownnosing to Ukraine, despite all the vritues he so obediently signalled, for the Civilized World he is not a speck of “good Jew” but still a weird strain of “snow nigga” and for all the West cares has to be incinirated in one furnace with evul Putin.
He so broken pots with the place he grew up, became celebrity and earned riches… Just to be indifferently blocked in wide brush with other “Russian propaganda” channels.
Oi wei, why karma is so a biiiitch?
Sergey Viktorovich is an honest and serious man. Far above the rest of his “colleagues”. But I think he is wrong about the future of Ukraine. There is no realistic way Ukraine can remain or be re-established as an independent country. Such a country would just be a battleground. If pro-NATO, member of NATO within 3 months and attack base against Russia, which is unacceptable for Russia. If “neutral” or pro-Russian (the same thing in the eyes of the Anglo Empire), under an endless onslaughter of regime changes and sanctions. So it can never again be. And sadly the same goes for Moldova, for Georgia, Armenia, and the Stans. No room for neutral or undefined / undeclared territories. This conflict will last for the rest of our generation, there is no way out. Ukraine is the opening salvo of WW3, of the war of the Mackinder Islanders against the Mackinder Heartlanders. As the movie says: “there can be only one”. Unfortunately. We had such a good world for 20 or so years. All out the window because of English psychopaths. (:sad:)
Again, as always, Sergey Lavrov, is sublime in the moment. The most dignified and even-handed diplomat in the world today. And oh how he has the patience of a saint!
Those grubby little press worms with their miniature poodle ankle-biting tactics are so very reprehensible, in spite of their competence at manipulating with such facile ease any and everything for its use as “gotcha” propaganda; a propaganda devise for its ill-informed and ever further dumbed-down audience, that is those so vociferously rabid anti-Russian and pro-Ukie in their fully-inflamed ignorance.
Without knowing who was questioning Mr Lavrov (as the press members were not identified,) I suspect that the first to ask about (but most impertinently condemn and assert he/she knew better than Mr Lavrov about the maternity hospital) I have to say it sounded like that conceited, self-important popinjay twit George Stephanopoulos, he who thinks his personal gravitas is no less than Alexander the Great, but indeed comes across more as a Michael Dukakis caricature as when Dukakis was photographed in a U.S. tank during the 1988 U.S. Presidential contest that for all of its “tough guy” associations, only served to make him look like Alfred E. Newman of Mad Magazine fame wearing a tank commander’s helmet.
If indeed it was “Commander” Stephanopoulos up to his usual rude tricks, then perhaps the Kiev regime will bestow an honorary journalism award on him for his services to Ukraine while serving in the “Azzholev Battalion” of the press corps.
Three cheers to FM Lavrov for his service to his country.
Looks like we are feeling the effects of the sanctions now. Two days ago a message was sent out here where I live in Spain that there would be no more food deliveries to the shops until further notice due to fuel costs. Today, the shelves are almost bare. I’ve never seen it like that here before.
Mr Lavrov, you show our politicians etc up for the intellectual pygmies they are.
A man at the top of his game.
Liz Truss is an embarrassing muppet ,as are her colleagues.
At least there seems to be one ‘Old School’ true diplomat who knows his job in this whole mess. In this Q/A session, compared to similar Q/A sessions with Joe Biden’s and Boris Johnson’s top-level ‘on show’ team leaders Mr. Lavrov leaves them far behind. They should go back to kindergarten while their behind-the-scenes ‘seen it all before’ real negotiators get down to business. Having said that, as long as UK remains as the US lapdog……….
(From an 84yr.old Ex-Pat Scot.