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Ed Note update: This transcript is now complete.
Question: After your statement about the possibility of a nuclear war, of the third world war, the whole world is asking: is there a real risk of that happening?
Sergey Lavrov: It looks like by the whole world you mean Western media and politicians. This is not the first time I note how skillfully the West twists what Russia’s representatives say. I was asked about the threats that are currently growing and about how real the risk of the third world war is. I answered literally the following: Russia has never ceased its efforts to reach agreements that would guarantee the prevention of a nuclear war. In recent years, it was Russia who has persistently proposed to its American colleagues that we repeat what Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan did in 1987: adopt a statement reaffirming that there can be no winners in a nuclear war, and therefore it must never be unleashed.
We failed to convince the Trump Administration, because it had its own ideas on this issue. However, the Biden Administration agreed to our proposal. In June 2021, at a meeting between President of Russia Vladimir Putin and US President Joseph Biden in Geneva a statement was adopted on the inadmissibility of a nuclear war. Let me stress: this was done at our initiative.
In January 2022, five permanent members of the UN Security Council adopted a similar statement at the highest level, also at our initiative: there can be no winners in a nuclear war. It must never be unleashed. In order to achieve this goal, President Vladimir Putin proposed convening a summit of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council. This proposal was supported by our Chinese colleagues and France. The United States and the United Kingdom, which always defers to it, are holding back this important event for the time being.
After I said this, I urged everyone to exercise utmost caution not to escalate the existing threats. I was referring to the statement made by President Vladimir Zelensky in February that it had been a mistake for Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons and it was necessary to acquire them again. There was also a statement made by the leadership of Poland about their readiness to deploy American nuclear weapons on their territory, and much more.
Somehow there were no questions from the media about the statements made by Vladimir Zelensky and Poland. Or after the statement by Foreign Minister of France Jean-Yves Le Drian, who said suddenly: Let us not forget that France also has nuclear weapons. This is what I was talking about. When Western journalists take words out of context and distort the meaning of what I or other Russian representatives actually said, this does them no credit.
Question: Several days ago, President Vladimir Putin said Russia had “unparalleled weapons.” What did he mean?
Sergey Lavrov: Everyone knows this well. Three years ago, during his Address to the Federal Assembly, President Vladimir Putin presented the latest Russian innovations. First of all, these included hypersonic weapons. He gave a frank and detailed explanation that Russia began developing them after the United States withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. Back then President George W. Bush, answering the question why his country was destroying this essential document, which ensured global stability to a large extent, told President Vladimir Putin they were going to withdraw from the treaty to create an anti-missile system that would not be aimed against Russia. He said they were concerned about North Korea and Iran, and “you can do whatever you want in response.” They will also consider this as not aimed against the United States.
We had no choice but to work on hypersonic weapons because we knew perfectly well that the US missile defence system would not be aimed at North Korea and Iran but against Russia and then China. We needed weapons that were guaranteed to overpower missile defences. Otherwise, a country that has missile defence systems and offensive weapons may be tempted to launch the first strike thinking that a response will be suppressed by its missile defence systems.
This is how we developed these weapons. They are described in detail in specialised publications. We don’t hide that we have them. We were even ready to hold talks with the US on including a discussion on the new systems that have already been developed or will be developed in the future in the treaty on strategic stability that would replace the current New START. Today the Americans have suspended all these talks. We will rely on our own resources.
Question: When UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres was visiting Kiev, the city was hit by missile strikes. What would you say in response to Western media and President Vladimir Zelensky who regard these strikes as a provocation against the UN?
Sergey Lavrov: We gave constant warnings. When he announced the launch of the special military operation, President Vladimir Putin said it will be aimed against the military infrastructure in Ukraine used to oppress civilians in the east of the country and create a threat to the security of Russia. They know very well that we are attacking military targets in order to deprive the Ukrainian radicals and the Kiev regime of the opportunity to receive reinforcements in the form of weapons and ammunition.
On the other hand, I have not heard President Vladimir Zelensky say a word about a situation that is in no way related to either a military plant (whatever it is called) or any other military facilities. I mean the Tochka-U missile strikes at the centre of Donetsk over the recent weeks, or the civil railway station in Kramatorsk and several other places, including Kherson (just the day before yesterday). The reason for these strikes was clearly to terrorise civilians and prevent the people living in these regions from deciding their fate. The majority of people there are tired from the oppression they have been suffering all these years from the Kiev regime, which is increasingly becoming a tool in the hands of neo-Nazis, the United States and its closest allies.
Those who came to power after a bloody unconstitutional coup launched a war against their own people and against everything Russian, banning the Russian language, education, and media. They adopted laws promoting Nazi theories and practice. We have warned them. All our warnings met a wall of silence. As we understand now, back then the West led by the United States already intended to encourage the Ukrainian leaders (Petr Poroshenko and Vladimir Zelensky, who came after him) in every possible way in their desire to create threats for Russia.
Our warnings issued in November and December 2021 about the need to stop NATO’s reckless expansion to the east and agree on security guarantees that that will not be related to the accession of new countries to the military-political bloc were rejected. I would even say the answer we received was not very polite: “It’s none of your business,” “we will expand NATO as we wish,” and “we won’t ask for your permission.”
At the same time, the Ukrainian regime gathered about 100,000 troops along the conflict line with Donbass and intensified strikes thus violating the Minsk agreements and the ceasefire. We had no choice but to recognise these two republics, sign an agreement on mutual assistance with them and, upon their request, defend them from the militarists and Nazis who are flourishing in today’s Ukraine.
Question: This is how you see it, while Vladimir Zelensky puts it differently. He believes denazification doesn’t make any sense. He is a Jew. The Nazis, Azov – there are very few of them (several thousand). Vladimir Zelensky refutes your view of the situation. Do you believe Vladimir Zelensky is an obstacle to peace?
Sergey Lavrov: It makes no difference to me what President Vladimir Zelensky refutes or does not refute. He is as fickle as the wind, as they say. He can change his position several times a day.
I heard him say that they would not even discuss demilitarisation and denazification during peace talks. First, they are torpedoing the talks just as they did the Minsk agreements for eight years. Second, there is nazification there: the captured militants as well as members of the Azov and Aidar battalions and other units wear swastikas or symbols of Nazi Waffen-SS battalions on their clothes or have them tattooed on their bodies; they openly read and promote Mein Kampf. His argument is: How can there be Nazism in Ukraine if he is a Jew? I may be mistaken but Adolf Hitler had Jewish blood, too. This means absolutely nothing. The wise Jewish people say that the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. “Every family has its black sheep,” as we say.
As for Azov, there is evidence being published now confirming that the Americans and especially the Canadians played a leading role in training the ultra-radical and clearly neo-Nazi units in Ukraine. During all these years, the goal was to insert neo-Nazis into the regular Ukrainian troops. Thus, the Azov fighters would play a leading role in every unit (battalion or regiment). I read such reports in Western media. The fact that the Azov battalion is clearly a neo-Nazi unit was recognised by the West without any hesitation until the situation in early 2022, when they began to change their minds as if on cue. Japan even apologised to Azov recently for having listed it as a terrorist organisation a few years ago because of its neo-Nazi ideology.
Journalists (from some Western media outlet) interviewed Vladimir Zelensky and asked him what he thought about Azov and the ideas that Azov preaches and puts into practice. He said there were many such battalions and “they are what they are.” I would like to emphasise that this phrase – “they are what they are” – was cut out by the journalist and it was not included in the interview that was aired. This means the journalist understands what this person says and thinks. He thinks about how the neo-Nazis can be used to fight Russia.
Question: There are several thousand or perhaps tens of thousands of neo-Nazi militants. Can their presence excuse the denazification of a country with the population of 40 million? There are such battalions as the Wagner Group, who also draw inspiration from neo-Nazi ideas, serving with the Russian troops.
Sergey Lavrov: We have discussed the Wagner Group a number of times with those who are interested in this topic. Wagner is a private military company that has nothing to do with the Russian state. We explained this to our French colleagues, too; they started to get nervous when the Wagner Group agreed with the Mali government to provide security services. Back in September 2021, my esteemed colleague Jean-Yves Le Drian, as well as Josep Borrell, said directly that Russia had no business in Africa, neither as a state nor with private military companies because Africa is the EU and France’s zone. This is what they said to me almost word for word.
We also explained the situation in Libya, whose authorities invited this private military company to the city of Tobruk, where the Libyan parliament is situated. Italy knows the Libyan situation very well. They are there on commercial terms, like in Mali. There is nothing like that in Ukraine, which has a huge number of mercenaries from Western countries. I believe the talk about the Wagner Group’s presence in Ukraine is nothing but a trick to distract attention from what our Western colleagues are doing. The situation around the confrontation at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol, as well as the stubborn, even hysterical desire of Vladimir Zelensky, his team and their Western patrons to evacuate all these people and send them to Ukraine can be explained by the fact that there are many people there who would confirm that there are mercenaries and maybe even acting officers of Western armies on the side of the Ukrainian radicals.
You have asked whether the elimination of several dozen (even thousand) Nazis’ influence is worth putting a country with a population of 40 million at risk. This question is not entirely correct. It is a matter of Russia’s fundamental security interests. We have been talking about it for several decades. Long before the coup, the West came to Ukraine (this was 20 years ago) and began to tell them that on the eve of each election they must decide whose side they are on: Europe’s or Russia’s. Later they started encouraging the initiatives that the Ukrainian leadership promoted to be as unlike the Russian Federation as possible. I have mentioned the persecution of the Russian language and the Russian media, the shutdown of Russian-language television channels, the ban on the sale of any printed products in Russian (both from Russia and those published in Ukraine), the Russian Orthodox Church, which is a sacred institution in our state and society, and the adoption of laws to promote Nazi theories and practice. These laws are not adopted for several tens of thousands of militants in radical battalions, but for the whole country.
Western Ukraine stopped celebrating the Victory in the Great Patriotic War. It happened a long time ago. The latest developments have nothing to do with it. They started destroying monuments to those who liberated Ukraine from the Nazis when they started celebrating the birthdays of those who collaborated with Hitler as national holidays (Shukhevich, Bandera and others, Waffen-SS fighters). They started to celebrate as a national holiday the day when the Ukrainian Insurgent Army was created, which was found guilty of collaborating with the Nazis at the Nuremberg Tribunal. This did not happen in the last two or three months but started many years ago. Even before the coup.
The coup took place the day after the French and Polish foreign ministers guaranteed a peaceful settlement in February 2014. The following morning, when the opposition overthrew the government, declared a hunt for the president and occupied the administrative building, we asked them why they could not use the power, the influence and authority of the EU to force the opposition to cooperate. The answer was incomprehensible: Viktor Yanukovych had left Kiev. Many people left their capitals. That same year, in 2014, there was a coup in Yemen. President Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi also left the capital. The difference was that Viktor Yanukovych left Kiev for another city [in Ukraine], while Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi fled to Saudi Arabia. Since that time and until recently, for eight long years, the entire progressive humanity headed by our European liberals demanded that President Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi return as the legitimate leader of Yemen. But in Ukraine, when the President went to another city, there was no need to do anything anymore. We noted that the first statement made by those who staged the coup was about abolishing the regional status of the Russian language. They called on armed militants (also ultra-radicals) to storm the Supreme Council of Crimea. This is how it all began. Nobody wants to remember this now. The EU was humiliated by the thugs who seized power in Kiev following the coup just as the EU is now humiliated by its failure to enforce its decision to create a community of Serbian municipalities in Kosovo. With the EU’s mediation, Pristina and Belgrade agreed on this back in 2013, but the EU has shown its incompetence once again.
Question: What do you think Italy’s role is now?
Sergey Lavrov: Italy is at the forefront of those who not only adopt anti-Russian sanctions, but also put forward all sorts of initiatives. It was really strange for me to see it, but now we have become accustomed to the fact that Italy can be like that. I thought Italy and the Italian people have a slightly different view of their history and justice in the world, that they can tell the difference between black and white. I don’t want to be inaccurate, but in any case some statements made by politicians, not to mention articles in the media, go beyond all diplomatic and political propriety and far beyond journalistic ethics.
Question: Could you tell us what and who you are referring to?
Sergey Lavrov: Our embassy has sent us such materials and even filed a lawsuit because there was a violation of Italian law. I don’t want to go into detail now or repeat the nasty things that are being discussed. At least I don’t associate it with the Italian people, for whom I have the warmest feelings.
Question: Let us talk about the role of the United States. Joe Biden continues to openly support Ukraine, supply it with money and weapons; he says that there is an aggressor and Ukraine is under attack.
Sergey Lavrov: I have read a lot of things in the American and European media about the connections between Joe Biden’s family and Ukraine, so his attention to the current situation comes as no surprise. However, in addition to his personal interest, I cannot rule out that it is also about the fact that Washington is aware of the failure of its long-term strategy to turn Ukraine into a real threat to the Russian Federation and to make sure that Ukraine and Russia are not united and relations between them are not friendly.
In fact, this is not just about Joe Biden. When the Soviet Union broke up, the entire American elite was guided by the “legacy” of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who said Russia without Ukraine is just a regional power, nothing serious. They were guided by this logic when they pumped Ukraine with offensive weapons, encouraging its militarisation with a clear anti-Russia slant in every possible way, and drawing it into dozens of annual military exercises under the auspices of NATO. Many of those exercises were held in Ukraine. In 90 percent of cases, they were directed against Russia. We can also see now that the United States wants to bring its “anti-Russia” project (as President Vladimir Putin said) to a conclusion. We are increasingly hearing statements that “Russia must be defeated,” “we must defeat Russia,” “Ukraine must win,” and “Russia must lose.”
We agreed to the talks at the request of Vladimir Zelensky, and they started to gain momentum. In March, agreements were outlined at a negotiators’ meeting in Istanbul, based on what Vladimir Zelensky said publicly. He said Ukraine was ready to become a neutral, non-bloc, non-nuclear country if it is provided with security guarantees. We were ready to work on this foundation given the understanding that the agreement would envisage that the security guarantees do not apply to Crimea and Donbass, as the Ukrainians had themselves suggested. Immediately after this proposal of theirs, which they signed and handed over to us, they changed their position. Now they are trying to hold talks in a different way. In particular, they want to receive security guarantees from the West first, although initially these guarantees should have been agreed upon by everyone together, including Russia.
When Vladimir Zelensky said he was ready for Ukraine’s neutral non-bloc status, he made a serious step forward, which we welcomed. However, after that, his ministers and the Parliament speaker of Ukraine started saying that they should receive security guarantees but the goal of joining NATO (as stated in their constitution) will remain. Now NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and the British started saying that if the Ukrainians want to preserve this goal, they have the right to do so. This is what I am talking about.
Now even NATO does not suit the Americans. They didn’t hold their last meetings within the framework of NATO (a meeting on support for Ukraine), but simply gathered delegations, because NATO decisions are made by consensus, and they need to decide on all issues quickly and single-handedly.
Question: Perhaps their behaviour was affected by what happened in Mariupol and Bucha. In both cases, you spoke about a staged production, a performance. But, for example, a few days ago CNN broadcast a video recorded by a drone on March 13, which shows that there were Russian troops on those streets with the bodies. Could this have caused a change in their approach? Where is the truth regarding these war crimes?
Sergey Lavrov: There is only one truth here. On March 30, Russian troops left Bucha. The following day, on March 31, Bucha Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk proclaimed victory in front of television cameras saying that the city had returned to normal life. Only three days later they began to show photographs of these bodies. I don’t even want to go into detail, because it is so obviously fake that any serious observer can see it at a glance.
I don’t know what affected the US. When the US declares solemnly and dramatically that it is impossible to endure “all this,” no one remembers how the US decided that there was a threat to its security 10,000 kilometres away from its borders: in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or Yugoslavia in 1999. No one has any doubt that the US has the right to neutralise those made-up threats (like in Iraq, where it turned out to be fake) in any way it likes.
We warned many times over the years that they are posing a threat to the Russian borders, that this is a red line; we have been saying it for many years. They just nodded. But now I believe they thought the world should only listen to the US, because NATO and the entire European Union accepted that their master sits in Washington. And Washington decided that the world should be unipolar. If you read the statements made by their Secretary of the Treasury, for example, they say so directly.
Question: Several days ago, your Ministry published a photo of your predecessor, Andrey Gromyko, meeting with Pope Paul VI. Is this a call for Pope Francis to act as mediator?
Sergey Lavrov: I think it was simply the anniversary of their meeting. The Foreign Ministry is posting photos of events from 20, 30, or 40 years ago on its social media accounts.
Question: Who can bring peace? Is there such a person, institute, or country? President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and President of France Emmanuel Macron, and Prime Minister of Italy Mario Draghi have tried. Who can get a peace process started that will result in Russia, the West and Ukraine signing a treaty?
Sergey Lavrov: It is a good question, but long overdue. All problems could have been solved peacefully by Petr Poroshenko who was elected in 2014 under the slogan “Peace in Donbass.” Then he started the war. It could have been solved by Vladimir Zelensky. During his election campaign, he presented himself as the “president of peace.” In December 2019, he promised to fulfill the Minsk agreements and adopt a law granting a special status to Donbass within the unbroken territorial integrity of Ukraine. He had every chance. All the cards and even the trump cards were in his hands.
Vladimir Zelensky chose to say publically and arrogantly that he will never abide by the Minsk agreements because allegedly this would mean the fall of the Ukrainian nation and state. Everyone who drafted and approved the Minsk agreements at the UN Security Council kept silent. They said that he could stop implementing them if he wanted but Russia should continue to. That’s who could have brought peace.
Vladimir Zelensky can also bring peace now if he stops giving illegal orders to his neo-Nazi battalions and makes them release all civilians and stop resisting.
Question: Do you want Vladimir Zelensky to surrender? Is this the condition for peace?
Sergey Lavrov: We are not demanding that he surrender. We are demanding that he give the order to release all civilians and to stop resisting. Our goal does not include regime change in Ukraine. This is the specialty of the US. They do it all over the world.
We want to ensure the safety of people in eastern Ukraine, so that they won’t be threatened by militarisation and nazification and that no threats against the Russian Federation emanate from Ukrainian territory.
Question: Italy is concerned that Russia is suspending gas supplies. What is going on?
Sergey Lavrov: A simple thing that all the critics of our actions and everyone who condemns us these days do not want to talk about for some reason. Money was stolen from us (over $300 billion). Just stolen. A large part of the sum was payment for gas and oil supplies. It was only possible because Gazprom had to keep money in accounts in Western banks (according to your rules). They wanted to punish Russia, so they stole it.
Now they suggest we continue trading as before, and the money remains in their accounts. They will steal it again when they want to. This is the reason. Somehow no one talks about it. What happened to honest journalism?
What we are now proposing is that supplies should be considered paid for not when Gazprombank receives euros or dollars but when they are converted into roubles, which cannot be stolen. That’s the entire story. Our partners know this very well. Note that nothing changes for the buyers. They still pay the sums specified in the contract in euros and dollars. It is converted after that.
We have no right to let our own people down and allow the West to keep up its thieving ways.
Question: There is a lot of speculation in the West about President Vladimir Putin’s health.
Sergey Lavrov: Please ask foreign leaders who have talked with President Putin recently, including UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. I think you will see what I mean.
Question: May 9 is nearing. You will be celebrating the liberation from Nazism in 1945. Moscow is holding a parade. What will happen by this time? Is the end of the “war” near?
Sergey Lavrov: There was a tradition in the Soviet Union, to do something big and loud for some holiday. Our actions in Ukraine are focused solely on the objectives I have mentioned. They were set forth by President of Russia Vladimir Putin: to protect civilians and ensure their safety, and neutralise threats to them and to Russia related to offensive weapons and nazification, which the West is trying hard to downplay.
I have seen reports on NBC and read the American magazine National Interest. Serious articles are beginning to appear there, warning and cautioning against flirting with the Nazis like in 1935-1938.
Question: Will the conflict end by May 9? Is there any reason to hope it will?
Sergey Lavrov: Our servicemen will not artificially time their actions to any date, including Victory Day.
We will solemnly observe May 9, like we always do. We will remember everyone who died to liberate Russia and other former USSR republics, to liberate Europe from the Nazi plague.
The pace of the operation in Ukraine depends first of all on the need to minimise risks for civilians and Russian military personnel.
Russian embassy in Italy released the link of the video in Italian language:
The Russian embassy telegram channel (https://t.me/ambrusitalia) as lots of followers (more than 22000) because the censorship of Italian medias.
Many Italians express affection and solidarity with the Russian people, in open disagreement with their own government
This post has been shared lots of time (in Italian and russian language):
Cari amici! Vi ringraziamo di cuore per le parole di solidarietà e sostegno che riceviamo ogni giorno, per i fiori e per i piccoli pensieri che ci mandate.
Grazie a voi nel nostro giardino sono state piantate due bellissime ortensie. Faremo il nostro meglio perché questi simboli della nostra amicizia crescano e fioriscano.
Дорогие друзья! Сердечно благодарим вас за ежедневные слова солидарности и поддержки, а также за цветы и маленькие знаки внимания, которые вы нам присылаете.
Благодаря вам в нашем саду появились две прекрасные гортензии – символы нашей дружбы, о которых мы отныне будем заботиться.
#amicizia #Russia #Italia
Current Italian regime is a foreign bankster installed dictatorship, like France’s Macron (both Draghi and Macaron are banksters). No doubt about that.
The bandit/gangster/mafia boss Mario Drahgi:
“It’s also proven by the fact that the banks were released even before the bombers in 2011, seizing $150 million USD of Libya’s foreign investments, most of which have disappeared. ****Goldman Sachs****, the most powerful ****investment bank**** in the United States, whose vice president was**** Mario Draghi,**** played a leading role in the looting.”
Additional reading on the preparation/looting/destruction of Libya by NATO, spearheaded by the less than great Britain:
“Present on Libyan soil prior to the March 2011 US-NATO invasion were: CIA advisors, US Navy SEALs, ****British MI6 spies, and Special Air Service (SAS) soldiers from the British Army (16)****. In Libya too were French secret agents from the above-mentioned DGSE, and commandos from the French Army Special Forces Command. These elite units from the triumvirate of America, Britain and France were often dressed as Arabs, therefore posing as “false flaggers”; in order to conceal their identities from Libyans, and allow them to provoke resistance unmolested. So much then for the Western powers not having “boots on the ground” in Libya.”
“Long before intervening militarily in Libya, the new president ****Barack Obama**** had ordered that the US Treasury Department ****freeze the accounts of Gaddafi’s state-owned Libyan National Oil Corporation, including the seizure of $30 billion****. According to the IMF, Gaddafi further had ****143.8 tons of gold, worth over $6.5 billion****, deposited as international reserves in 25 countries. These funds were likewise frozen by the Americans (4). In sanctions imposed on Libya through the UN Security Council, the ****US-NATO partnership appropriated the Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWF)****, in which Libya had invested abroad as an oil-exporting country.”
It is a very clever comment by Lavrov, as ever with a far greater meaning than the obvious.
Namely, as the US empire weakens and thins, so do all things under its blanket weaken and become more transparent. Including heavily defended narratives which have been used a tools of coercion.
Lavrov is using something very provocative to show everyone that as hegemony ends, hegemonic ideas including controlled history ends.
I suppose here he is bringing down conversations from the high table and translating into commoners language as further leverage. There is an intense re-formulation of alliances going on. ‘If Israel is to continue enjoying the defence of its powerfully coercive narrative, it is going to have to show some fealty to the new order of things. Or watch history being corrected to your disadvantage. We are quite happy to correct the narrative.’
– Israel wants apology from Russia over Hitler remark
RT clearly communicate the Israeli point of view as the liberals they are.
Wait a minute …aren’t RT supposed to represent the Russian point of view??
RT is using the actual quotes you know – if it was not for that, I would not know why the Zionists are screaming – and oh boy, are they screaming.
Lavrov, as they say, put the cat among the pigeons :-)
Think of a little history here. Just a few weeks ago I think it was Putin that warned Israel not to use the Ukrainian issues to sneak shooting missiles into Syria. They did not stop! So, let them scream!
RT also said .. The Russian Foreign Ministry summoned Israel’s ambassador last month over Lapid’s “anti-Russian” comments regarding Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.
So, I think it is a fair report (this time).
Lavrov not only put the cat among the pigeons, but may have hit the nail on the head. Judaism and extreme nationalistic fascism (Nazism) are not mutually exclusive. This is a shield that Z should not be allowed to use without comment. Well done, Mr. Lavrov.
“Paging Mr. Soros. Paging Mr. Soros. Mr. Soros, please come to the informant de-… *cough* pardon, the information desk to pick up miscellaneous personal articles and fees.”
– Judaism and extreme nationalistic fascism
The Judaists are the pacifists. The harecore IDF are the Atheists. The Jewish opposition to IDF caused 100.000 march protests in New York, and not a word in Media.
@Decorum: “Judaism and extreme nationalistic fascism (Nazism) are not mutually exclusive.”
As witness the Zelensky regime after the Nudelman Cookie coup Ukraine: the last of a string of Jewish-only Presidents, with a Senate dominated by Jewish Oligarchs, installing an avowedly Nazi battalion as the centre piece of their army in order to commit “Aktionen” (Nazi word for genocidal actions) against Ukrainian citizens of Russian ethnicity. An army that recently murdered citizens wearing a white armband.
“How can there be Nazism in Ukraine if he is a Jew? I may be mistaken but Adolf Hitler had Jewish blood, too. This means absolutely nothing. The wise Jewish people say that the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. “Every family has its black sheep,” as we say.”
Lavrov is the consummate diplomat. If he chose these words, he used them for more than one purpose.
The Zionists bartered away German Jews to be able to extract Jews from other lands during the Hitler years.
I was taught this history by a Jew.
History is full of seeming blasphemies. Some people have constructed a whole fable called their history and have benefitted mightily by promoting and protecting that fable.
Lavrov shown a light on one of those situations. The black sheep is a Judas goat, using nazis killing Jews for his own benefit, bank account and embellishments as he leads Ukraine to slaughter.
Bravo, Mr. Foreign Minister. The Truth needs sunshine and fresh air. Thank you.
Mr Lavrov put it aptly what the world’s true history witnessed as opposed to the version promoted by the victors. It has been posted many times………..Ashkenazi………..break it down to Ashke and Nazi……..It has been Nazi revival over recent years in Ukraine. Everybody knows who supported that revival. Btw who were Lenin and Trocki? Who is Soros or Nuland? Accidental movers and shakers?……..”The Wanderers”…….always vindicative, resentful, mission oriented………. Where were Khazarian Empire located? I do not believe in randomness in the greatest scheme of world order………. https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/the-truth-about-the-conflict-with-russia/
Welcome back, your perspective has been missed.
The Jewish oligarchs welcome their kin to the West and tell them, based on their qualities, you go into science, you go into law, you go into media, and you go into politics , you go into finance etc.. There is no other country’s people that had that help or ever infiltrated the West, like these people.
America is infested with these people and all else in the west flows from them. Their money laundering scheme is coming to an end, and the stupid Whites, who were always racist, long submitted to Zion rule.
Russia always had problems with these people and still do, and I hope that the people behind Putin demand a clensing. The only problem that I have with lavrov is that he keeps referring to the West as colleagues. They are Russia’s mortal enemies, and maybe China calibrates that.
Israeli foreign fighters helping fight Russia in Ukraine – report
A factual reply on RT about Hitler being 1/4 Jewish was deleted by RT (??). That confirms my point. RT is the holocaust gang.
From RT: so no they did not back out…
`Israel has summoned the Russian ambassador, after Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov suggested that Adolf Hitler may have had some Jewish blood, and that the “most ardent” anti-Semites are Jews themselves.
“Foreign Minister Lavrov’s remarks are both an unforgivable and outrageous statement as well as a terrible historical error,” Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid tweeted on Monday.
“Jews did not murder themselves in the Holocaust. The lowest level of racism against Jews is to accuse Jews themselves of antisemitism.”`
“ The lowest level of racism against Jews is to accuse Jews themselves of antisemitism.”
Tell that to the Jewish supporters of Jeremy Corbin who have been hounded and harassed out of the British Labour Party by Lapuds Zionist troops
Mickey2000 (on RT)
– RT moderator has a personal vendetta against me. Like I said many time earlier and as you deleted, I know another way to get FACTS about Hit-ler’s ancestry to the people. You won’t be able to anything to stop that. Too bad you are pissed off at the strong possibility that Hitler is J oooo.
RT delete comments supporting Lavrov??
What is going on here?
Some jump off the link, precisely as Lavrov says. People take the words and continue out on a blind gate.
Lavrov refers to MSM’s excuse to Zelenski as Joo why their cant be any Nazi, and people jump to another chapter start howling about Hitler.
Its not relevant neither from Israel’s side nor people’s side.
Again Lavrov gives the correct answer: The racial argument is idiotic. What happens on the ground of real fascism atrocities are important!
I’m of the opinion RT has been compromised ever since they opened stations in D.C. and Israel…
Z for Victory!
Israel is pissed… Hitler had jewish orign, nazi germany had jewish soldiers, SS had jewish soldiers, NAZI party had jewish members, Israel is nazi…
David Irving used historical documents to prove what you stated re jews in the SS, and Werchmart.
He contends that the jews sent to work camps were the ones deemed disloyal to the German state.
Loyal Jews had no problems and many had high rank.
And of course for bringing official documents out of the basement Irving has been cancelled; bankrupted, vilified, and insulted.
I’ve always heard from Jewish propagandists in the US that Hitler was half Jewish. The people who forgot this must have had their brains eaten by the covid vaxx.
If Russia or Lavrov apologizes, then everyone will turn against Russia and Putin. No one supports a COWARD.
He has said nothing wrong, only criminals like the zionists in apartheid state and its extension i US Jewish neocons like Mark Dubowitz or terrorist organization, ADL, want apology to keep their lies the HOLLOWHOAX protected, since it has been a money making industry.
Shame on Lavrov or Russia if either apologizes for the statement which is TRUE. No one respects either Russia or Putin if they show any sign of cowardliness. Putin and Russia always supported the zionist Israel. This is a moment for them to set things right, otherwise he plays in zionist’s hands.
The zionist Joe and its complicits, the Jewish clown, Zelensky, and the criminal necons are responsible for the war. They have forced Ukrainian people out of their country to make rooms for the Jews, because they know the zionists cannot survive in occupied Palestine and have to get out soon.
Spot on, the Chabad sect has been setting up New Khazaria in the Ukraine for 2 decades, as the parasites nestle themselves into a comfortable location central to the World Island, SHCO, and new silk road.
Doesn’t look like its going to happen.
Thanks for translating!!!
This is an unbelievable story:
“aka Pragmatist_in_another_guise” (on RT)
“The comment system is being interred with by an outside agency.
Reasoned remarks are deleted. Remaining is chaff much of which consists of simple abuse or hatred. There is sense in that because casual visitors to this site are left with the impression it is occupied by extremists and the kind of people who visit Twitter. The last thing wanted is discourse counter to that of the Western “narrative”.”
I have same experience. Either RT is hacked, or RT is infiltrated.
they have moved from US/Israel based commenting systes (disqus, openweb) to a Russian commenting system with moderators and auto moderators…
they don’t care for comments and it’s just to let off steam. some are ok, some are troll, some are just wankers
they should do what Sputnik has done, put a bunch of emoji buttons to click, but they have let comments
“Reasoned remarks are deleted. Remaining is chaff much of which consists of simple abuse or hatred.”
Why would RT delete “reasoned remarks” / pro-Russian remarks? It defies logic. So his explanation is plausible.
Too many believe RT comment system cannot be hacked. US can afford to send 1000 million to Ukraine per month, but they cannot hack RT ?
And “Russian software” cannot be cover for CIA?
[Too many believe RT comment system cannot be hacked. US can afford to send 1000 million to Ukraine per month, but they cannot hack RT ?]
It is very easy to PRINT 1000 million dollars, no so eayt hack RT.
US has a broken economy, living off other people in the world through $$ that PRINTS, since dollar is the
international currency, but this system is coming to end soon, the PRINTING business is not enough to feed the American middle class either.
A very good news for the world and a bad news for Uncle Joe.
Italy, the NATO ally, is going to pay in rubles, kicking the NATO’s ass.
Italy’s Minister of Energy says Italy’s oil/gas companies are demanding to bypass the sanctions & pay utilities in rubles…thereby funding Russian’s economy, where was not predicted by uncle JOE, because he was sleepy when he ordered Zelensky, the clown, to resist the Russian ‘aggression’ a little bit longer.
[Italian energy firm Eni is preparing to set up an account in Gazprombank to make ruble payments for Russian gas, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, after the European Union criticized Russia’s decision to shut off gas supplies to Poland and Bulgaria as “blackmail,” and warned companies against breaching sanctions by complying with Russia’s demands.]
The international currency $$ goes down the tube much faster now due to stupid American sanction on Russia. Now, the zionist Zelensky has to go to his former job, as a CLOWN, to pay his rent, he cannot go to occupied Palestine either since the indigenous population are forcing the colonists out.
– The international currency $$ goes down the tube much faster now due to stupid American sanction on Russia. Now,
It is by design. To make sure there will be food shortage they burn down their own food factories. Fertilizer is being sabotaged – with all kind of phony reasons – so American farmers will decide no crop this year.
– but this system is coming to end soon
Remember the days of the Robberbarons? Rockefeller & Co was able to bankrupt all the other oil companies using control of railways. US was run by the globalists at that, who obviously controlled money .. before FED. Remember 1917? The same guys were able to take down the Tsar using ISIS (the Bolsheviks)
Let us assume they controlled 90% of money 100 years ago … and the same year 1500. When Pound ended being reserve currency nothing changed.
– One of the brains behind The World Economic Forum (WEF), is self-proclaimed prophet, Yuval Noah Harari. He believes in the Great Reset, in transhumanism, in culling the population, and using a global government to control humanity at the bio-metric level. He is praised by Bill Gates, Barack Obama Mark Zuckerberg, and Klaus Schwab, leader of the WEF.
Harari talks about “useless human beings” who do not have meaning or purpose. He said the greatest fake news is the Bible. He said Christianity is wrong, that humans are here on Earth for “nothing.” “Jesus Christ is fake news,” be balked. He believes there is “no great cosmic plan” that humans have a role to play in. Instead, he views humans as “useless eaters” who can be hacked and manipulated using digital surveillance under their skin.
He also believes in culling the population. “What do we need so many humans for?” he is quoted as saying while promoting his latest book.
R.T. is infiltrated. Who owns this network? Wolves in sheep’s clothing. What about Sputnik? Fifth columnists? Muricuh involved? Good old Muricuh, where men are men, and sheep are nervous.
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Sergei Lavrov makes some great points on the incapacity of the EU and Empire of lies to actually keep and implement plans. For example, the Dayton Accords in Bosnia and Herzegovina are constantly breached to the benefit of Sarajevo. The Bosnian Serbs have followed the Dayton Accords to the letter, but the Bosnian Muslims are draining power from Republika Sprska. Christian Schmidt was not even approved by the UN Security Council as per the Dayton Accords. So he is essentially a German dictator on Bosnian land. Yes, the Dayton Accords are broken.
In Kosovo, both UN resolution 1244 in 1999 and the Brussels Agreement in 2013 have been violated by Kosovo and its western backers. The opening clauses of UN resolution 1244 guaranteed the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia with Kosovo as its integral part and eventually the return of Yugoslav forces and custom border guards, none of it happened. The complete opposite , Serbian civilians were ethnically cleansed. The Brussels agreement was to create a Community Serbian Association in Northern Kosovo with some legal powers. Kosovo used the excuse that these breached the “territorial integrity” and “constitution” of Kosovo. What hypocrisy! Outrageous!
The breaking of the Minsk agreement clearly points out that the so called western nations signature on agreement is not worth the price of ink. They have set a terrible precedent where somehow future agreements need to be enforced with security guarantees.
Sergei Lavrov is one of the few great foreign statemen left. I always liked Ivica Dacic of Serbia and hopefully we return to the foreign diplomatic corps in the new Vucic government. Hungary’s Péter Szijjártó is another good statement who wants to continue to build a stronger conservative European coalition which also included Poland. Compare them to US secretary state Anthony Brinkley or Canada’s Freeland, not only incompetent but compromised. Freeland previously represented Canada on the new Canada/US/Mexico trade agreement and US economic advisor Peter Navarro completely undermined the Canadian delegation.
Although I would disagree with the former United States Secretary State of Pompeo for certain issues, at least he was credible and you can count on any agreements with him. Joseph Borrell constantly contradictory with no meaningful action.
Yes, I loved it when Pompeo candidly summarized the typical US agencies and Deep State modus operandi towards US vassals and the rest of the world:
“I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses [on how to go about it, worldwide].”
Ain’t that sweet!
Those courses seems to have been system wide, not an CIA exlusive one.
There is a reason the Empire of Deception is non-agreement capable; in word, writing and in deed.
Yes, Crystia (I’m not a witch) Freeland is compromised. Her grandfather collaborated with the nazis during W.W. 2. Then paperclipped to Alberta, Canaduh after the war. Never to answer for his crimes, and spawning good little NAZI Crystia to carry the torch.
That is the problem if u let them go away and make career abroud. Their children infiltrate politics in western countries and fight against the governments of their former motherland but this time in the name of USA or Canada. Its a Bumerang effect.
ivica Dacic is a fith columnist. His father was Kosovo Albanian and worked for Titos UDBA. Dacis is the real Capo in Serbia. Vucic is only his front public puppet. Vucic infiltrated the serbian radikal party and destroyed from inside. Dacic ordered the execution of Arkan in hotel interkontinental. This hotel was recreation center for UDBA Members. Complete 2nd floor was reserved for UDBA members like Dacic, Arkan, Vucic,…….
Dacic forwarded secret informations to CIA and BND. He organized the arrest of Milosevic and his extradition to Hague. Dacic disclosed the hiding place of Radko Mladic. Only Dacic survived all crisis since 1990 and always consolidated his political influence. Dacic the siptar is a traitor dismanteling Serbia piece by piece.
I am pretty sure that Russia has many Dacic in politics, military and media.
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You tell me which government leader isn’t a puppet in Serbia? Kostunica and Djindjic sent Milosevic to the Hague. Regardless, we are off topic, discuss this at another venue.
Yes – take this conversation to the cafe. Mod.
Correct me if im wrong but I think lavrov made a weak argument about nazi and anti semite.
Nazism is about racial superiority, you can slightly twist this ideology to make your own race (or nation?) to be Divine/God-descendant while another (selective) race as the lowest of low. In hitler era its the aryan vs the jew. In current situation, the ukrainian vs the russian.
By saying hitler have jewish lineage doesnt hit the core issue of nazism
Before Israel, the Jews were never a “side.” Moreover, it is always the established power against the upstart. Brits against Germans in the past. Now Yanks against Russians and Chinese. Ukrainians today are like Poles then.
Jews are on every side of every significant issue.
Lavrov is a Master. In a casual way he sent the equivalent of a cognitive nuclear torpedo into the Empire.
The concept of anti-semitism is a critical pilar of the Empire. Used in many ways for control.
I would say Nazism also relied heavily on anglo-saxon scientific ‘Race Theory’ which was popular worldwide at the time. Race Purity and segregation was also important. I think the Aryan vs Slav confrontation was of much higher priority than the Jewish issue. To create ‘Lebensraum’. A resource grab. This is where the hypothesis of the Aryan ubermench is put to the empirical test. I would say fundamentally it is more a clash between Protestant vs Orthodox cultures, than ‘Race’.
The current situation is not about ukrainian vs russian IMO, it’s about Gemanic vs Slav. The Nazi gangs falsely believe themselves to be Germanic and intends to kill off primarily all Slavs (Ukrainian + Russians) … when that job is done they “might” deal with the Jewish issue.
With this kind of mindset, it becomes more understandable how they can treat their fellow ukrainian civilians with such contempt. Even their ‘fellow’ Ukrainian soldiers lives seems to count for little more than canon fodder.
True and I agree with you, but you cant say this to the ignorant people worldwide. They would think its just another conspiracy theory and we know how MSM propaganda works.
Whats important is how to give understanding in the current context of ukrainian nationalist hatred to russian people using Nazism as a platform. my family members asked the same question weeks ago, how come theres nazism in Ukraine when their leader is a Jew. Its a simplistic misconception that Nazi only hate jews, when the reality is deeper than that.
I would argue the core ideology of nazi is about safeguarding a nation’s purity (including genetics, races, ethnicities, culture, religion, knowledge, etc) and their living space (wealth, land, resources) by annihilating and enslaving other nation that may endanger it.
It is be best to remind the world about the history of atrocities and genocide by banderas in Volyn massacres.
–Use web translation to read.
You need more than hatred to do these kind of things without regret and Nazism provide the perfect framework of mind to justify it.
‘Lebensraum’ was likely pressed into Hitler’s thinking by Rudolf Hess, whose mentor was Karl Haushofer. The geopolitics of Halford Mackinder, promoted by Haushofer, included an infatuation with the British Empire.
Lavrov corrects two logical fallacies:
a) Zelensky can be a Nazi and a Jew (like Hitler)
b) Israel by extension doesn’t get a victimhood free pass anymore.
Bella Fromm (Blood & Banquets: A Berlin Social Diary) quote the well nourished Herman G as saying to her “I decide who is Jewish!”, thus revealing the pogrom for what it was, an expedient that had, at least in Berlin, little to do with the Tribe and a lot to deal with Power and Money.
D. Irving found strong evidence that Churchill knew quite well that the German nazi party and Mr H were financed by two of the Jewish owned (and zionist) Berlin Banks.
And let us not forget the famous Einstein letter of 1948 > a fragment> “The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past per- formance In Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a “Leader State” is the goal.” Might have simply said ” lebensraum.” ..
Just as was said to Frau Bella, so to-day zionists decide who is “antisemitic” or unworthy… Pure coincidence.
Finally, I am under the impression that Eichmann was Jewish, but not sure…seems to me that at trial he cynically spoke of the proceeding as a “purimspiel”… memory is vague. I believe he read Hebrew, anyway.
I’m a critic of politicians or diplomats who are smiling while soldiers are at war. I haven’t seen Putin smile like Lavrov here and before; the least is to keep a serious face.
Oh man … never heard of a file photo?
Anyway, here is a gallery. Choose the one you like and imagine I chose the one that you would have preferred.
Somebody is doing him a disservice by often putting smiling file pictures while his country is at war. He ought to complain about it or his office. It’s not good. Look at him smile in the picture for this interview! That’s me I don’t know when.
OK, next time I’ll ask you to choose a photo. Be ready! You have about 4 minutes from my request.
Remember when he was accused of never smiling? I guess not!
Now, do you have anything to say about the press conference?
I didn’t know it was you until after I sent my comment. I would have left out the part about Lavrov or his office complaining about it, for sure.
Erdogan doesn’t smile . . . always looks like he has a mouldy piece of cheese stuck under his nose.
We in the west like our Russian partners moody and serious, like in the good old Soviet times when you sat waiting to hear the length of your Siberian holiday.
Mr Lavrov must be sick to death of the same questions he’s answered 200 times prior. Surely these interviewers can come up with original stuff, I mean they have research teams but seem to choose the old material from previous interviews.
>>We in the west like our Russian partners moody and serious, like in the good old Soviet times when you sat waiting to hear the length of your Siberian holiday.
Like Gerasimov – he always has a look on his face that says “if you mess with me, I’ll rip your spine out”.
It’s true each of the last Q&As were a bit repetitive, but with each interview Lavrov is addressing a different audience. These Q&As are nothing like the scripted events the great Blinking One engages in. It’s invaluable for the people of these countries to have a chance to listen to Lavrov directly, being interviewed by their own news organizations. He’s working the global circuit and doing a stand-up job.
That gallery is fake news. There isn’t one photo of him enjoying his favorite cigarette partially hidden in a cloud of smoke.
Probably curated for the Western Press. Such a photo would be sensured.
I have seen 2 pics of him with a cigarette, i *think* i saved one at the time *somewhere*.
He really is the master diplomat, and curiously the special operation is literally because he has failed at his job (if you don’t talk to Lavrov you will talk to Gerasimov) and yet he has so clearly outclassed every single western diplomat over decades of front and center diplomacy on the world stage that no Russian could conceive of assigning him blame.
I don’t understand why Lavrov “may be mistaken” about Hitler’s ancestry, it seems anachronous that he would broach such a critical subject without being 100% sure of his facts.
I always get the feeling Lavrov would make a really great granded to some kids.
I can’t stand cigarettes…but what’s the relevance of that!!??
First, thanks very much to whoever provided this translation of Mr. Lavrov’s “interview”. I like the more calliing-a-spade-a-spade way Mr. Lavrov talks nowadays, but I think that he could add a touch more, how to put it, abrasiveness and sarcasm-irony-humor and be more politically effective both at home and abroad, but maybe I’m completely wrong on that, especially about how the average Russian would react to that, and I’m more than willing to admit it. But I say this because the “level” of “leadership” from POTUS Potato Head, Tony Blindkin, Hernia Truss, Sargent Schultz, BM BoJo the Clown, “Tony” Guterres, etc. etc. etc. does not not deserve one nanogram of respect, formal or otherwise, in public or in private, from Mr. Putin or Mr. Lavrov. But it does indeed deserve tons of riducule, mockery and downright insult, regardless of these supposedly powerful “government” offices/titles. None of these blithering idiots are competent to hold the offices they hold ………… unless their Oligarch overlords have specifically instructed them to behave in the hypocritical way that they do, in which case, they and their offices deserve even more ridicule, mockery and downright insult. If Mr. Putin, Mr. Lavrov, Mr. Peskov and Ms. Zakharova are unwilling to mud-wrestle with those bone-heads, they should assign that job to someone in the Russian government willing and able to do that effectively; I suggest a Russian VIP who is also an amateur political humorist/impersonator. Talk about fruit ripe for the picking!
Second, I’m going to go a bit OT here, but an article published by PCR today makes me think that PCR might be going a bit off the deep end with a false attribution to Saker (hearing what he wants to hear, I think), but maybe I’ve missed something. See if you agree.
Feed-back: Everyone of us including PCR should be very careful on our silly suggestions on what Kremlin should do or what Russia should have done.
My gut feeling (not claiming it always correct) is that Russia has the most competent team possible for the situation than we know of during the world’s history.
Mr. Lavrov is a extraordinary Foreign Minister and have my respect. The explanations are clear. Only the stupid presstitute from West insist in disregard his words.
Agreed, and I believe it’s worth adding that people who are concerned, about the way Lavrov’s cleared headed answers are being ‘presented’ in the West (smiley pics, or not), need to understand the West’s geopolitical and its parasitic media establishment was not and is (now) Lavrov’s ‘targeted’ audience. Lavrov (and Russia generally) is talking to the vast majority of the world’s population, that majority that has been stomped on for centuries by those now bellowing about Lavrov’s ‘history lesson’.
Worthy commentary – http://zububrothers.com/2022/05/02/lavrovs-right-someones-ethno-religious-identity-at-birth-doesnt-predetermine-their-views/
A ‘special’ sentence;
“Regrettably, fascism has revived at such an unprecedented pace in the US-led West in recent years that it’s now taken for granted that Hitler’s false theories are true to an extent.”
A good closing;
“The socio-cultural and political environment in which someone is raised can shape their views, never their genome. It’s fascist hate speech to speculate otherwise.”
Therein lies one of the key points Lavrov was making.
OK, I don’t have the time to read this article (nor to watch the video), but simply seeing Mr. Lavrov smiling like that put a little joy in my day (As a Canadian, I hope one day we’ll have administrations and governments the caliber Russia has… je peux rêver, non?).
Mussolini correctly defined fascism as : The dictatorship of the corporations. Which nation is OWNED by its corporations? Muricuh!!! The NAZI war machine was created by U.S. corporations, such as Standard Oil. They supplied vast amounts of fuel via neutral Spain well into 1942. N.A.T.O. (Nuclear Armed Terrorist Organization) is a fascist organ which is used to dominate and control Europe. This is a proxy war between N.A.T.O. and Russia.
So that was Mussolini’s definition. He even used a variation in his party’s name. However, the basic meaning is simply “unified for strength”. Pejorative usage killed that one long ago.
BTW: How many Republicans are truly ‘republican’ or Democrats ‘democratic’?
There is some DNA testing that indicates the possibility of Jewish blood in Hitler’s bloodstream.
In conclusive to say he was a Jew. Possible to say he had Jewish blood.
The argument actually is can a jew be a nazi?
There is no doubt that in the Ukraine ethos, many are.
And they are leaders of the Kiev government.
It is pure speculation, sometimes a political attack.
I tried to act as my own historian of WWII, so studied some things (I found some pearls). The first thing I studied is this question of whether he was Jewish or not. Such were the errors of Hitler in WWII and the consequences, and the rumors like you mention, that it needed to be given a hard look. I concluded “no” and a strong reason among many was the extreme warrior-like temperament which he showed in WWI and later (too much of a German’s German). Eva Brown wrote this story in her diary: Hitler was alone with her driving to the Berghof when a shot came through the front window. He stopped the car, told her to stay put, and he ran towards the sound of the shot. He came back holding the shooter, kicking him – and the shooter still had the gun in his hand. He gave her the gun inside the car and told her to aim it at the guy. Hitler was furious. The shooter was tried and executed in the same week (within two or three days).
Large numbers of German and Austrian Jews fought in WWI on the Axis side and they were involved in atrocities against the peoples that the Germans and Austrians attacked. It is only when the German hatred turned against them that they screamed. But they were fine with supporting it against others.
Found this via link in Sputnik article.
‘Hans Frank was Adolf Hitler’s personal attorney. In Frank’s memoir, published seven years after his execution in 1946 at the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Frank claimed to have uncovered evidence in 1930 that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was a Jewish man living in Graz, Austria, in the household where Hitler’s grandmother was employed. Contemporary historians have largely dismissed Frank’s claim, primarily on the grounds that there were purportedly no Jews living in Graz in 1836, when Hitler’s father Alois Schicklgruber was conceived. This consensus can be traced to a single historian, Nikolaus von Preradovich, who claimed that ‘not a single Jew’ (kein einziger Jude) was living in Graz prior to 1856. No independent scholarship has confirmed Preradovich’s conjecture. In this paper, evidence is presented that there was in fact eine kleine, nun angesiedelte Gemeinde – ‘a small, now settled community’ – of Jews living in Graz before 1850. The contemporary consensus regarding Hitler’s paternal grandfather does not have a strong evidentiary basis. Other evidence, deriving from earlier sources, suggests that the contemporary consensus may be incorrect. Avenues for further research which might help to clarify the question are suggested.’
Don’t know if any of you saw this. In March of this year the Ukrainian Institute of National Remembrance “published nine arguments on Monday for why Ukrainians and Russians cannot be called brotherly nations, including one that stated that Ukrainians are pureblood Slavs, while Russians count people from Ugro-Finnish tribes among their ancestors.” The notion of pure blood was central to Nazi dogma.
It’s meaningless to use DNA testing this way.
It’s like doing a DNA test to find Christian blood in someone.
Regarding the argument. I would say the right question is : Can a Jew support Nazism ?
Given the choice between a billion in the bank or hanging by a rope on main street, I would say the obviously answer is yes.
DNA is fake science, never been proven. Any claims made on the basis of DNA this or DNA that serve to maintain fraudulent DNA science as meaningful and important in the public conscience.
Was Hitler a bit Jewish or not? What a Lolocaust! The question is important only because then the whole F/UK/US Western Hitler and Holocaust ideoogy comes flying back into the face of its main beneficiaries. So the rest of us can lean back, relax, and enjoy. :) Thank you, Mr. Lavrov, for this Big Fun !!
Can a Jew be a Nazi? Well, the question has a problem. There is no proper definition of what a Nazi really is. And there is even debate about what a Jew really is. Again – lean back, relax, enjoy! :)
Let me say this, following on Mr. Lavrov’s interesting remarks, which have a lot of weight because of who he is and what a role model he has been at the top of international politics and diplomacy:
If Hitler was a bit Jewish, then Zelensky might well be a bit Nazi.
And what is a Nazi? Does it have anything to do with historical National Socialism?
Apparently not. It has all but become a synonym for someone with a bad attitude towards others.
Some people go on and on about Aryans and race and superiority and inferiority and hatred and extermination and what not, all of which are ascribed to historical National Socialism, and at the same time they seem to persist as timeless qualities that reincarnate ad libidum, but only in White People, only in Right People, some kind of ahistorical, imagined NS, the Absolute Evil, which then can be called out as “Nazism” – as if it was a doctrine! There has never been any such thing.
Most of the people engaging in this talk can’t even spell a single German word correctly without looking it up somewhere, so how would they know anything about historical National Socialism?
They mostly wouldn’t, and they mostly don’t, because they have to rely on mostly English material about National Socialism – not all of which has to bad, but much of it is, and that is reflected in the comments here.
But anyway, historical National Socialism is not important to the discussion, the political notion of Nazism is.
Mr. Lavrov has done a great step in redefining “Nazism”. Up to now, Jews were exempt from it. Not any more! Their tool of oppression, their racket of extortion comes flying back in their face. And it’s a good thing to happen to them. They, too, will have to own up.
What is the proper meaning of *denazification* as currently used with regard to the SMO in the Ukraine? Does it not mean *deNATOfication* ? Does it not mean *deAzification* as in *AngloZIonist* ? I sure think it does!
So what is the true meaning of *Nazi*? Where is the seat and the power center of *Nazism*?
And don’t you blame it all on the Jews!
Ah zut… the picture wasn’t from the Italian interview… I watched it and Mr. Lavrov, at least, doesn’t seem annoyed by stupid questions…
My sense is that there will not be peace in the Ukraine until there is a regime change in Kiev.
Ukraine had nuclear weapons in exactly the same way North Dakota has nuclear weapons. The weapons hosted in its territory are the legal property and responsibility of the supervening state, the USSR and USA respectively. Russia is the legal inheritor of the USSR and the nuclear weapons hosted in Ukraine were de facto and de jure its property. Elenskyy is just a whining BS artist.
Ouch: He dared to touch the Big Taboo of why Jews support Nazis in Ukraine and did before, in WWII. I suppose Russia has its archives full of evidence they can put on the table anytime they want to.
Maybe to keep out the Israeli offer to act as mediators?
Gosh he is so absolutely dedicated again again again forever telling this stuff when its already out there. Poor soul having the patience with these journos tv channels etc. Wonder what the viewing figures are.But probably less tiring than dealing with ukr negotiators if that was his job…pity those job it is..Absolutely knows it off by heart.
I think who ever thought Russia lost the information with the empire would now have to reevaluate. Russia kick started the fruitful discussion, a discussion that many people do privately. So, Russia fought back with real information. People around the globe will be asking why do we pay dearly for the chosen game of enslavement of non Jews.
You can judge by the reaction Mr. Lavrov spoke the truth.
Wow, that *is* hot! Calm, cool, collected, and now visibly combative (in his typically sophisticated manner, of course), Sergey Lavrov has certainly dished it out there to the Western purveyors of non-stop malarkey.
What a guy. What a magnificent statesman!
Hear! Hear! Ditto for VVP. A couple of days ago I watched al Arabiya’s interview of Lavrov in English, revealing a brilliant mind and profound humanity. Although strongly accented, his English is more articulate than mine as an American. I imagined learning Russian and then cultivating his level of patience, culture and integrity. Hah! Only a laudable dream for now, but learning Russian may have great value in a few years … and then Chinese. Too old for that.
Al Arabya interview with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in English:
Russian vessel in the port of Rostock waiting to be discharged. Ukro Berlin Ambassador Melnyk calls on Rostock dockworkers to boycott Russian shiploads in the port of Rostock. (Z)entralrat der Juden in Germany supporting his appeal. Lavrov is right!
The howls of protest from the Tribe will make it clear what side they are on and what they represent.
They also make it clear what side Russia in on and what she represents.
Time for all to choose.
Ourrah pobieda, Sviatoi Rus!
Mario (Dracula) Draghi – OMRI, ex Prez ECB, Financial Stability Board (FSB), Gestapo Troika, is as blood sucking a leach vampire as they come. It is no surprise Italy have stabbed Russia in the back after decades of a close working relationship.
I suppose the Russian mafia and their Italian cousins still share a bond. At least there’s still some honour left among these criminal organisations as opposed to the State controlled mafia, which is captured hook, line and sinker like the rest of the Euro-lapdogs.
Even the populist 5 Star Movement is now headed by Giuseppe Conte, ex PM, which proves that Italians are as fickle as the Brits (2 years ago I’d have said English, but the Scottish Government, maybe under some duress for fear of any negative publicity affecting their Holy Grail of Independence vote should they adopt a more reasonable viewpoint on Russia’s war v NATO ).
Beppe Grillo, called a Putin apologist by Italian msm they say is not available for comment. They say in hiding! I say, Beppe get back control of your 5 Star Movement and give Italians the chance to support the TRUTH, unlike stalking horse Le Pen. Screw Germany & France and let Italy take on the leadership of Europe, at least Independence and be on the right side of history with Russia. Before it’s too late!
Unfortunately, that is not going to happen.
The rise and fall of “5 star movement” is not (just) because Italians are fickle, but also (mainly?) for these 2 reasons:
1) The leadership, once elected, has not demonstrated to be on par with the job they have been supposed to do. The movement grew too fast and didn’t manage to select their party class properly.
2) Overwhelming mainstream propaganda, which kept slandering the movement day after day.
Beppe Grillo passed the leadership on Giuseppe Conte, trying to “normalize” the party position in the Italian politcal spectrum. Grillo cannot be and won’t be anymore the leader of anything.
Every Russian supporter is now completely ostracized by MSM and mainstream politics.
Italy, just like Germany, cannot really take an independent position as long as they have US military bases on their territory.
Lavrov is crystal clear. No obfuscation, no prevarications. That’s Russian diplomacy. So was the USSR diplomacy. It is the diplomacy of truth and responsibility. Contrast that with Anglo-Saxon diplomacy based on lies, deceit, even betrayal of allies, as was practiced in WWII. US secretaries of State, for instance, habitually lie in publicized Senate hearings. Senators know it of course and join the secretaries with their own contributions of lies. Because the hearings are held for public consumption only. Their main object is to misinform the people and manipulate public opinion in the interest of the powers that be. Nothing else. That’s the way the system works.
Today is the anniversary of the Odessa pogrom by the Pravy Sektor neo-Nazis. Curfew specifically imposed this year in Odessa has suppressed local memorials.
In contrast to the barbarity of the Ukro-Nazis, I offer this short video of a babushka visiting the eternal flame (I think that is right) at the Kremlin.
“That’s the difference between our soldiers and the Ukrainians. Our guys break the rules to help grandma lay flowers, and Ukrainian “warriors” trample the victory banner and humiliate people. As they say, compare, and draw conclusions.”
Sergey V. Lavrov is wonderful with words and logic. That is why the western media hate him and will not allow to read or listen to his interviews. Today’s Neue Zuricher Zeitung publishes hateful editorial comment and of course uses the antisemitic card. Lavrov pointedly says how the “pressitudes” (not his word!) conveniently omit some words or sentences – as Zelensky’s answer to the Azov question ‘they are who they are’..
I was wondering when the antisemitic card against Russia will come out – and there it is. The more this card is used , the more it seems there is fear of backlash in the world.
I am pasting the NZZ without translation, sorry about that, I do not know how to do it quickly :)
Der Auftritt Lawrows gipfelte in einer zutiefst antisemitischen Aussage über die jüdische Herkunft des ukrainischen Präsidenten Wolodimir Selenski…”
“…Lavrov’s appearance culminated in a deeply anti-Semitic statement about the Jewish origin of Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelensky…”
It is common both on liberal side and conservative side to present “Israel” as those who are running the world. UNZ will be like that, a continuation of Mein Kampf. On Russia Insider the most viewed article was: The Jewish Question
The West (US, NATO) makes desperate emotional warfare: crying on TV by spokesman for Pentagon, Kirby, and now reaching for the ultimate weapon – “voodoo – warfare” in form of insinuating that Putin has cancer!!! I remember – about 8 or so years ago there was mention that he has pancreatic cancer!! Unfortunately, i lost the link, maybe someone does have it?
In the “Kamala Harris” simplistic silly explanation category I give you all this laugh. Got to admit it is way more accurate depiction of what is going on LMAO.
Because everyone needs a laugh today.
Wow ………….. he said it all.
I think it is a mistake to think the neo-Nazis in Ukraine are necessarily anti-Jewish (although some may still be).
The Nazi followers in Ukraine use the same extreme or ultra-nationalism as the Nazis did in Germany in WWII where they labelled the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and many ‘degenerate’ artists etc, as Untermensch (a person considered racially or socially inferior) as the targets.
In observing demonstrations and public manifestations of neo-Nazis in Ukraine over the years on video, particularly after and around Maidan, the Untermensch for these people are Russians, Russian culture and language, and anyone with ethnic Russian blood. Same for anyone that supports Russians.
It’s why the Donbas region has been targeted with AZOV regiment members who have been carrying out a campaigns of hate, terror, torture, and artillery and missile attacks against pro-Russian Ukrainians for the last 8 years. It’s ethnic cleansing all the same..
They have also used the current war as a an opportunity to terrorise the Donbas region even further since Ukrainian shelling in places like Mariupol as well as murders of those they consider Russian sympathisers, has been vastly been exacerbated. Targeting is random and not necessarily aimed at Russian military targets, it has been more often civilian homes and apartments.Then they conveniently blame Russians for this as false flags.
Let’s not forget Nazism is a method that can be applied on any people who are selected and blamed in any country for most of the country’s problems who then become Untermensch. Appeals to nationalism drive this.
As Hermann Goering said:
Naturally, the common people don’t want war … but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
This explains why those with Jewish ancestry do not fell threatened in Ukraine, they are not necessarily Russians.
This is the interview to end all interviews. To all future requests for interviews with Mr Lavrov the response should be, “Here is the transcript that most l;ikley answers all your questions.”
Having said that….
Here’s my opinion. Shoot it down, but here it is:
Russia has a character problem that puts it at a disadvantage in its foreign policy: It is TOO STRAIGHT FORWARD, TOO HONEST!
The Empire of Lies has painted Russia as “the enemy of West” and its “values” and, being attacked on all fronts by the West, Russia reacts honestly and directly by stating over and over (correctly) that (1) it is being attacked by the “ collective West” and that (2) it is in effect turning its back on the West, which validates the false narrative.
What I would very much like to see coming from Russia— not from Pres. Putin, nor from Mr Lavrov, but from some Duma representative(s)— a Russian Talleyrand!— is an alternative narrative, one that makes people understand that Russia is in fact the only true friend of European nations because (1) the US/NATO is ruining Europe’s economies, impoverishing its nations: (2) pushing them to a ruinous and potentially catastrophic war on their (not the US) territories; and (3) actively destroying the erstwhile true European/universal values through the EU and all the plethora of US-funded NGOs that.
Driving a wedge between the Empire of Lies and the European nations should be feasible.
Can the presidents of sovereign European nations (Hungary and Croatia) be placed on the assassination list of the murderous Ukro thugs and the Empire of Lies still be allowed to demand the support of European nations in its war to achieve “regime change” in Russia?! The European nations must force their corrupt satraps to change course.
Lavrov on Bush:
“He said they were concerned about North Korea and Iran, and ‘you can do whatever you want in response.’ They will also consider this as not aimed against the United States.”
And Bush meant it 100%. He told him the plain truth as he saw it. Later Susan Rice meant it when she described the shield as something with Iran in mind and not Russia. We know it like we know some neighbor: They really meant it. When a reporter said it to Putin on camera, he broke into laughter and wished for the journalist’s innocence to be blessed, and I laugh right along with him if I see it (it’s funny), but Putin thought it was not true by then. I think it was most likely still true, though it could have changed too. Now that we see the hypersonic weapons, obviously Bush worried too much about Korea and Iran. Without his tremendous mistake, there would have been no Russian hypersonic weapons today.
“…tired from the oppression they have been suffering all these years from the Kiev regime, which is increasingly becoming a tool in the hands of neo-Nazis, the United States and its closest allies.”
Increasingly a tool? Zelensky cannot be Zelensky anymore so to speak. I think this is diplomatese at the service of continuing negotiations – I guess they’re continuing – with Zelensky’s government. Lavrov does not let go of “negotiations” (in line with his president). I’d like to see him convince the “Kiev regime” of what he is saying. Zelensky can perhaps, yeah, say that he doesn’t want to be bullied anymore by those forces and that he will conclude an agreement with Russia! He is “fickle like the wind”, says Lavrov. He didn’t see the dance video yet. (Later in the interview he did criticize Zelensky stronger than he has been criticized before.)
“…I may be mistaken but Adolf Hitler had Jewish blood, too. This means absolutely nothing. The wise Jewish people say that the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. ‘Every family has its black sheep,’ as we say.”
The answer came out bad. He said that Hitler (always) spoke and acted against Jews as a Jew himself! I never heard this one before. Will Putin ask him to apologize? I think so. He should apologize.
“I have read a lot of things in the American and European media about the connections between Joe Biden’s family and Ukraine, so his attention to the current situation comes as no surprise. However, in addition to his personal interest, I cannot rule out that it is also about the fact that Washington is aware of the failure of its long-term strategy to turn Ukraine into a real threat to…”
Russia has information on Hunter Biden’s business deals in Ukraine that maybe no one else has, because Putin is on video saying that Hunter was involved in several businesses in Ukraine. This (several businesses) was something that no one was discussing in the United States at the time (if I recall, it was just one business deal and a payment from the Moscow mayor or his wife). Lavrov agrees with his president. I don’t know if Putin will decide to reveal what he was talking about. It would not be fair at this stage or in the middle of a war. I think Putin must then know anything and everything Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.
“Question: Do you want Vladimir Zelensky to surrender? Is this the condition for peace?
Sergey Lavrov: We are not demanding that he surrender. We are demanding that he give the order to release all civilians and to stop resisting. Our goal does not include regime change in Ukraine. This is the specialty of the US. They do it all over the world.”
Who knows what the goals are? I don’t know and proud of it. It seems nonsensical to be in a war with plane and missile strikes, and tanks and soldiers, and not demand for the target of all this to surrender in some way. Russia demands that he “stop resisting.” So, “do not surrender in this war but stop resisting.” Today that means “stay in power and do what I say.”
According to the media, British Intelligence said that on May 9 the SMO designation will be no more. This term that then banned the word “war” and “invasion” is not good for any mind if you cling to it indefinitely while a war is happening. Maybe Lavrov will make more sense after that commemoration.
“Our goal does not include regime change in Ukraine.”
This line “takes the cake.” I believe him, have to, no reason not to. Thank you, Mr. Lavrov, on behalf of all newspaper readers.
“‘Foreign Minister Lavrov’s remarks are both an unforgivable and outrageous statement as well as a terrible historical error,’ Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid tweeted on Monday.” -RT
There’s that nasty reaction (again). They should be and are forgivable. They were hurtful words but words only. He connected two separate things, without really meaning to do so because he first made clear “I may be mistaken” on Hitler being Jewish (there’s no proof of this other thing anyway).
The Chinese have been eerily quite about the Special Military Operation. What is happening here? China has 1.3 billion people and resource poor. European Union has 850 million people and resource poor. Are these two entities have ulterior motives? Has Putin been Gorbecheved?
Interesting article what is the west planning
Thank you, the Vineyard.
Sergey Lavrov in top form here.
It is always a pleasure to read what Lavrov says. Polite; factual, almost casual; well-briefed; sprinkled with wit; and sarcasm that is almost palpable. Compare that with some tap-dancing imbeciles who hold the same office in Nato/EU regimes.
For me the gist of the interview is this:
Lavrov: … You have asked whether the elimination of several dozen (even thousand) Nazis’ influence is worth putting a country with a population of 40 million at risk. This question is not entirely correct. It is a matter of Russia’s fundamental security interests.
John Mearsheimer got it exactly right. In response to a question in one of his lectures related to the Ukraine months before the SMO, he said, ‘It doesn’t matter what you think. It’s what Russia thinks that counts.’ A fundamental fact of life when one is dealing with a great power such as Russia — and Russia is a great power whether the US, or middling powers such as UK or Poland like it or not. A simple fact that is apparent to ordinary folk around the world but sadly lost on the West’s great intellects such as Borrell, Stoltenberg, Truss and Blinken.
All the more reason then that an article such as this should be read and digested in order to understand Russia’s actions. I’m very glad the Vineyard takes trouble to publish regularly such an article and ones in the same vein.
Lavrov shows how on rhe ball he is about international affairs. He must be the hardest working Foreign Secretary in the world. We’ve got the complete idiot Liz Truss.
Today in Ukraine, also like then in Yugoslavia, we see the jews supporting Nazis and destroying countries
It can hardly be a coincidence that the jews Albright, Soros (and others) supported croatian ustasa nazis.
The jewish project Ukraine the jews are supporting (using) Azov nazis for the destruction of ukraine and their russian inhabitants. The list of jews names supporting azov nazis is huge starting with Nuland, freeland, Soros, Blinken,…
Common to all of them however is the fact, that, they are immigrants whose objective was to destroy Russia and Serbia once they ve gained political and economic power in their country of immigration.
All the refugees and their children in the west will always be a danger for Russia in the future. Their children will infiltrate politics, economy and media in the country of immigration. With the gained power they will attack Russia again and again. Their Main goal is the total destruction of Russia.
It is interesting though, that I never saw evidence of Jews from former Yugoslavia (or descendants) engaging in any colour revolution nonsense. Not many survived WW 2 of course.
– Common to all of them however is the fact, that, they are immigrants whose objective was to destroy Russia and Serbia once they
Not true. The Israelis are one of the native people of Ukraine. See Times of Israel: “leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine”
u misunderstood it. I ment that they ALL immigrated to western countries and from the former immigrants became German or US or Canandian passportholders. The children of These (former) immigrants have on one objective is to destroy russia and Serbia. These immigrant generation are not only jewish but also others like croatians or albanian in case of the yugoslavian theater:
I think also its very dangerous to allow russian oligarch to immigrate to israel or UK or USA.
They will use the political and medial infrastructe in their western domicile to destroy Russia.
Better jail them for ever in Sibiria where they have no possibilities to sabotage.
Only look at Khodorkovsky.
Btw he is Jewish……
– Only look at Khodorkovsky.
Using “leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine” .. Khodorkovsky is a Khazar. Israelis are Khazars. They are all from Russia. All over the world we find these Russians / former Russians running the game.
The ruthless and Jew-hating Knight Templars / head of the Crusades were emigrants from Russia. It was: – kill the Jews. By the time of the Crusades they were power brokers in Italy, running the profitable trade route Europa – Silk road. They were the globalists.
So some questions have finally been cleared. 300 billion dollars were effectively stolen from Russia, which is probably an all time record for the empire.
No major military operation will be unleashed by 9 May which indicates that the war will last at least until the summer not including further expansions to the new territorial acquisitions being the Russian goals seemingly focusing on the Donbass.
Some questions are still unanswered.
Does Russian really intend to abandon those sums of money?
Will there be any major developments in the Chinese assistance to Russia?
In conclusion: Russia is fortifying the internal front whereas nobody knows what China is doing.
The EU is now a NATO proxy
No catastrophic economy events taking place in the West contrary to what it was announced.
No energetic crisis. Monetary printing happens to be a magic wand.
US politics keep stable
UK politics keep stable
EU politics are a mess.
Anticipating events doesnt seems to be the strength of russian military, elites and Putin.
At least Putin who has lived in East Germany could realize in advance that what may happen with russian financial assets abroad.
From day one of the confrontation, it was clear to me that there was no other way than to abruptly terminate all contracts. The US does this every day according to its mood. Only the immediate shutdown of all energy supplies would have taught the sustainable, saturated consumer society that freezing is the consequence of breach of contract (NATO’s eastward expansion).
This confirms my deep conviction that Russia’s politicians are too naive to understand that the so-called democratic world is in reality a ponzi scheme. It can only operate illegally by stealing: Iran, Libya, Venezuela, Iraq and now Russia bow to this dictate. Now it is too late to cut off the energy supply because thanks to all the propaganda lies the populations of NATO countries have been completely sedated.
“ As for Azov, there is evidence being published now confirming that the Americans and especially the Canadians played a leading role in training the ultra-radical and clearly neo-Nazi units in Ukraine.”
This will forever be a scarlet stain left on Canada by Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau. Beyond shameful.
Honestly, do they care? Canada/US has quite a number of migrants and their descendants from Ukraine/Russia regions (also Eastern Europe too) who have carried on ancient grudges and disputes into the new worlds they settled in. Chrystia Freeland and of course Victoria Nuland being currently prominent examples. They are ready to get their ‘new homelands’ into war (or wreck it!) to avenge against Rooskies.
This ‘little’ historical fact should seriously be discussed in North Amercia so as to keep off these biased, neurotic and emotionally involved persons from any policy regarding Russia, Ukraine or Eastern Europe. They are more driven by personal prejudices than facts or national interests of their settled countries.
The Russian centre of decision around Putin has understood that the anglos have decided to sacrifice “the new Europe” -as wicked Rumsfeld put it-, creating a buffer radioactive zone from the Baltics to the Bosphorus in order to concentrate in their “old Europe” colonies around the Scandinavian Germanic core. This could be the reason why they are not in a hurry to close the Ukranian case. They know that wound on their western flank will keep open at least for a decade. But, what about the Eastern, Middle and Southern fronts?
Now here we are two candidates to freeze and starve in the 2022 winter hunger games: Poland and Bulgaria. Whereas other countries are happily finding cover schemes in order to bypass their self-inflicted embargos, Poland and Bulgaria decided to keep pure and go straight through their particular highway to hell. Of course, Russia will be blamed for it. Sorry, I mean Putin will be blamed for it.
In the meantime, summer will come and the usual all-out monetary magic wand will do the dirty job of stealing people’s work for virtually no real value. There will be threat, slander and false flag murder galore but the trenches won’t barely move. But, while Americans and Britons enjoy their business as usual motto, new Europeans will, at some point test that money is not edible nor can it heat your ass or feet when celciuses go below zero. Revolutions not to be excluded by spring 2023 in that part of the world.
That’s all very predictable and well-known.
But still…. What about China? To what extent is Beijing backing the Russians? Because, if they’re not, Ivan is toast. Why are the Chinese so shy to make clear supportive stands? Why are they insisting in maniacally focusing on applying pain to their own population with these brutal barbarian lockdowns? Just to start with, huuuuge cooperation win-win programs could, and should, be being developped as we speak in order to boost a vibrant growth flow. Just to mention a few.
– Space cooperation
– Transportation cooperation including air, land and maritime cooperation
– Cargo cooperation
– Trade standards and patents
– Educational programs.
– Hi-tech cooperation
– Biotech cooperation
– Financial cooperation
– Media and spectacle
– New international cooperation bodies aside the UN western controlled system
– Military cooperation including extensive yearly all-arms drills.
Where is all that? Won’t have the Chinese chosen, in line with their millenial wisdom, to go the way of the snail? Will they ever realize that persisiting in their passive attitude will take them to the grave?
Lavrov is one of a small number of intelligent, articulate and sincere Foreign ministers. It is always a pleasure to read his words or to hear his speeches where facts, logic and sincerity are presented. If a few other countries had such a spokesperson, the world would not be in the predicament it now faces.
Had to giggle. Todays bs across the western world . Mainly murdoch garbage. Is that putin has cancer surgery and hands power to super evil patrushev for a few days while in recovery. Things must be collapsing badly for ukraine to even go there.
By now, all I can do is laugh over this. You are fighting the same war Germany had to fight from 1933-1945. You were forced to fight to protect your people from a hostile Government on ukrainian territory that formerly belonged to the motherland. The exact same way Germany, in 1939, was forced to fight to protect its people from a hostile polish government, on polish territory that formerly belonged to the motherland. International Judaea even declared an all out economic war against your nation, the same way it declared all out economic war against Germany in 1933. You are facing the same Lend-Lease program that once propped up the Soviet Union against Germany. International jewish media is already spreading the same lies about Russian massacres and warcrimes, the same lies that are still being told about Germany. You better not loose this war or someone will find something equivalent to gas chambers at some point.
Yet you went on a crusade to “denazify” the World. Ironic. No way you win like this. Russia will be destroyed unless it comes clean with uncomprimising truth. You will not beat the empire of lies if you are still an empire of lies yourself.
Russia has to face a huge amount of bad karma right now because of what it did to Germany in Soviet times. Just read the intro of this wikipedia article to get a glimpse of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
This is very interesting. The writer takes a moral stance to defend the indefensible and as such presents that they are unassailable. Actually, it is just a good example of successful indoctrination of a mind, but it has to be half-hidden, otherwise, the mind will not accept the indoctrination logically. So, we got to hide that moral stance and in this instance we do it with a diffuse concept such as karma.
Of course, karma and spirituality is a diffuse concept for Satans minions.
Easy to only blame people who get things wrong cluelessly and poor Jews who are just as hapless. It fills the void somehow.
It’s not a “prince” in or of the “darkness” anymore. That’s getting more and more obvious. I’m not saying people have to get religious, but that one should show understanding by not blaming people willy-nilly or arbitrarily.
“You better not lose this war or someone will find something equivalent to gas chambers at some point.”
Right. They can’t lose though, just like Bolivia cannot defeat Brazil in a war. Ukraine needs a “miracle” for that. Poor soldiers who die for false beliefs, for a lousy politician, for some fanatics.
“No way you win like this. Russia will be destroyed unless it comes clean with uncomprimising truth. You will not beat the empire of lies if you are still an empire of lies yourself.”
Like this they win. That’s the problem the “West” put itself into. Russia can now beat the entire West by just defeating Ukraine. Who situated himself wrongly? Obviously not Russia. It won’t matter what was said. The war outcome decides things…
“Russia has to face a huge amount of bad karma right now because of what it did to Germany in Soviet times.”
That’s news to all or something. Let’s say “karma.” On September 1, 1939, Hitler’s karma was decided. Many ‘wise’ people knew immediately it was all over for him. By late 1942 it was like “everybody” knew it. It was “karma” for being ignorant, for not learning things that needed to be learned about WWI, for being too stubborn…Poor German soldiers who there also just fought for their country, but actually they were fighting for a lousy Fuhrer and nothing more. The wonderful soldier, maybe 18 or 19 years old, who just before dying said to the man who told the story in a documentary, “Tell my mother that I died fighting for the Fuhrer.” The man could not help choking as he told the story.
Wash your mouth out and obey, and the last time such a comment passes moderation.
Great, but other than troll material, you should keep publishing all perspectives if you want to reach 50,000,000 hits. That’s the way the Internet is, I think.
Won’t happen to you but I knew a close-to-libertarian political site that reached a million hits, and then they started cancelling this leftist and that leftist and they ceased to exist pretty quickly.
From the moderator:
Please get back on topic. Take other discussion to the MFC or the Open Thread. Than you
Not an interview with Sergey Lavrov to make you laugh.
One highly intelligent, critically thinking humanitarian Russian…
Started 20 November 1945
Decided 1 October 1946
According to what we learn from moderated RT comment it was “Israel” who behind Nuremberg trial:
– Israel has used the Holocaust as a political tool since WW2. The only valid question is did the Russians make another mistake?
RT – the fastest way to idiocy
Our goal does not include regime change..(but if this occurs then so be it).
👏👏👏candid and straight forward answer with no ifs and buts. Congratulations!