by A. B. Abrams for The Saker Blog
The Coronavirus crisis appears set to herald a new era of much poorer relations between China and the Western world, with Western countries having borne the brunt of the fallout from the pandemic and, particularly in the United States, increasingly blaming China at an official level for the effects. Looking at the U.S. case in particular, at first responses to the virus were if anything optimistic – the fallout in China was seen as a ‘correction’ which would shift the balance of global economic power back into Western hands. Indeed, U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross stated on January 30th that the fallout from the virus in China “will help to accelerate the return of jobs to North America” with millions at the time placed under lockdown in Wuhan and elsewhere. Western publications from the New York Times to the Guardian widely hailed the virus as potentially bringing an end to China’s decades of rapid economic growth – with a ‘rebalancing’ of the global economy towards Western power strongly implied., Against North Korea, the New York Times described the virus as potentially functioning as America’s “most effective ally” in achieving the outcome Washington had long sought – “choking the North’s economy.” 
The result, however, has if anything been strong resilience to the virus across much of East Asia, with Vietnam and South Korea being prime examples of successful handling alongside Macao, Hong Kong, Taiwan and the Chinese mainland – in contrast to a very sluggish and often ineffective response in the West. From rot filled and broken emergency supplies in the U.S. national reserve to nurses wearing bin bags due a lack of protective equipment, the commandeering of supplies heading to other countries,  and the enlistment of prison labour to build mass graves in New York City – signs have unanimously pointed to chaos. It should be pointed out that the U.S. reported its first case on the same day as South Korea – which had the virus fully under control several weeks earlier due to more effective handling and a lack of complacency. The U.S. and wider Western world had a major advantage in its warning time over China in particular, but effectively squandered it.
The results of the fallout from the Coronavirus in the Western world, and in the U.S. in particular, could be extremely serious given the context of escalating American pressure on China in the leadup to the outbreak. Blaming China for the virus across American press and in the White House itself – despite it having reached America primarily from Europe rather than Asia – has heralded mass hate crimes against the Asian American community of unprecedented seriousness and scale since the targeting of Japanese-Americans in the 1940s. Perhaps even more seriously, however, the official American response as public opinion is directed against China appears set to place the world’s two largest economies on a potentially catastrophic collision course. On April 14th U.S. Senator Josh Hawley unveiled highly provocative legislation which would strip China of its sovereign immunity in American courts and allow Americans to sue China’s ruling Communist Party directly for the damages caused by the coronavirus crisis. Such legislation relies heavily on growing anti-Chinese sentiments and depictions of China as directly responsible – and contradicts evidence from the World Health Organisation among others that China’s response effectively stalled the global spread of the virus at its own expense with its lockdown.
An unbiased analysts shows that the disproportionate fallout in the Western world relative to East Asia is overwhelmingly due to poor preparation – and had effective South Korean style measures been implemented from the outset America would have seen only a small fraction of the cases it currently suffers from. Nevertheless, calls from the U.S. and to a lesser extent from within other Western states to make China foot the bill are manifold. Scholars from the American Enterprise Institute and Stanford University’s Hoover Institution among others have made direct calls for Western states to unilaterally “seize the assets of Chinese state-owned companies,” cancel debts to China and expropriate Chinese overseas assets “in compensation for coronavirus losses.” The Florida based firm the Berman Law Group has already filed two major lawsuits suing China calling for compensation for the outbreak – and the situation looks set to worsen considerably with many more suits to follow. Regarding how the crisis could play out, and how the U.S. could act on its massive claims against China over the virus which are expected to be in the hundreds of billions at least, there is an important precedent for American courts providing similar compensation to alleged victims of an East Asian government and the American state taking action accordingly – that of the Otto Warmbier case in 2018. Assessment of the Warmbier case sets a very important precedent with very considerable implications for the outcome of a Sino-American dispute.
Otto Warmbier was an American student arrested in North Korea in 2016 for stealing a poster and violating a restricted high security area in Pyongyang. The student was returned to the U.S. the following year in a comatose state, with his parents alleging that his teeth had been artificially rearranged and his body showed signs of torture. This was strongly contradicted by medical analyses, with the Hamilton County Coroner’s Office carrying out an external examination of Warmbier’s body and dismissing the claim by his father that his teeth had been pulled out and rearranged by the North Koreans. “The teeth are natural and in good repair,” the office concluded, after Warmbier’s father had sensationally claimed that “his bottom teeth look like they [the Koreans] had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged them.” Coroner Dr. Lakshmi Kode Sammarco stated addressing the claim of forced rearranging of Otto’s teeth: ”I felt very comfortable that there wasn’t any evidence of trauma. We were surprised at the [parents’] statement.” She said her team, which included a forensic dentist, thoroughly evaluated the body and assessed various scans of his body. Medical assessments showed no signs of mistreatment or any trauma to the student’s head or skull, with a blood clot, pneumonia, sepsis, kidney failure, and sleeping pills were also cited as potential causes of death. Nevertheless, Warmbier’s parents would continue to claim against all available evidence that their son had been tortured to death – filing a lawsuit against the North Korean government. Where a full autopsy could have provided data to more completely undermine their claims, and was strongly recommended by doctors, they were adamant in their refusal and no autopsy was carried out. Forensic scientists were highly critical of this unusual and unexpected decision in this critical case.
In response to the Warmbers’ claim against the North Korean state, which amounted to a staggering $1.05 billion in punitive damages and around $46 million for the family’s suffering in a motion filed in U.S. District Court in Washington in October 2018, Pyongyang was asked to pay the couple $500 million. This was despite no evidence for the couple’s claims of Korean culpability, but at a time when public opinion was strongly against North Korea and would have supported the motion. To seize the Warmbiers’ compensation, the United States Navy would later that year commandeer a North Korean cargo ship, the Wise Honest, and escort it to American territory where it was subsequently sold at auction. The couple was provided with a part of the ship’s value, and future seizures of Korean merchant shipping to meet the remainder of the American family’s claim remain possible under U.S. law. The seizure of the ship, one of North Korea’s largest, represented a considerable loss to its fleet and complemented the effects of ongoing Western sanctions to undermine the country’s economy.
The significance of the Warmbier case is that it provides a strong precedent for the U.S. Military, should China inevitably refuse to pay the hundreds billions expected to be demanded in compensation, to engage in effective state level piracy against Chinese merchant shipping to provide funds for its increasingly struggling economy. With trade war having failed to significantly slow Chinese economic growth and foreign trade, which had been its primary goal, more drastic means may be adopted for the same end using the Coronavirus crisis as a pretext. Other similar recent cases of do exist, including unilateral seizure and sale of Iranian government owned properties by the Canadian government in 2019 to compensate alleged victims of terror of conflicts with Hezbollah and Hamas. This was despite neither of these being UN recognised terrorist organisations and Iran’s support for these non-state actors being entirely legal under international law. The fact that these properties were on Canadian soil and governed under Canadian law however, rather than in international waters, makes this a considerably less provocative case than the Warmbier case one or than what is being proposed against China.
Further evidence that the U.S. would consider unilateral commandeering of shipping against China was provided by the U.S. Naval Institute, which in April published an important paper titled ‘Unleash the Privateers’ highlighting that it remained legal under American law for U.S. security firms to be tasked with commandeering and either sinking or capturing and selling Chinese merchant ships in the event of conflict. It highlighted that China was the largest trading nation in the world with a merchant fleet several times the size of its American counterpart – and that this provided a vulnerability the U.S. should be willing to exploit. Taken together, the circumstances surrounding claims against China and moves to strip it of its sovereign immunity, the Warmbier precedent, the well timed and extremely radical naval institute paper and above all America’s need to reverse its losses and undermine China’s growing trade and economic prosperity to perpetuate its own hegemony, between them point to a high possibility of the U.S. adopting state level piracy against Chinese shipping as a future policy. While evidence strongly contradicts claims that China is responsible for the Coronavirus and the massive fallout the U.S. is now experiencing – much as evidence from American coroners and forensic scientists contradicted the claims of the Warmbier family – these inconvenient facts are highly unlikely to prevent the U.S. from taking action to secure its perceived rightful place as the leader of the global economy by seizing what it sees as its rightful property through attacks on Chinese trading vessels.
It is by no means a certainty that the United States will engage in such an escalatory course of action, and the nature of the overall Western response beyond the current harsh rhetoric and unfounded accusations is yet to be seen. It is important at this stage, however, to highlight the not insignificant possibility such a course will be taken by the U.S. and other Western parties to reverse the trend towards a decline in their economic positions relative to China. Repercussions from such seizures will almost certainly be far more severe than the relatively muted global response to the seizure and sale of a commandeered North Korean ship two years prior. While China’s Navy is concentrated in the Western Pacific and is poorly placed to defend its trade routes from the global reach of Western warships, Beijing and its allies have a wide range of means to retaliate which could deter the Western powers from taking such a course of action.
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It is now as clear as crystal that no one outside the USA – whether states, corporations or individuals – should have anything to do with the pariah nation.
No wealth and no human beings within the physical reach of the USA are safe. The rest of world can easily do without it, and should immediately take steps to minimize its exposure to the pirate regime.
And if the US armed forces attempt to commit literal piracy against Chinese ships, no doubt the PLA Navy and China’s allies will know what to do.
This is really a critical time. Washington is debauching the currency even more than they have in the past two decades. They are just going completely gangbusters in money printing. Add to that, that they have also been weaponizing both Swift as well as the currency for years now. They routinely seize assets of other countries, sanction other countries who do not comply with US dictates, embargo countries, destabilize and invade anyone who does not do their bidding and so on.
I am sure that all of this has caused serious concerns among both friends and foes alike about the “sanity” and “stability” of the people in Washington.
Now – on top of that – they are talking of renouncing over a trillion dollars in treasuries, Lindsay Graham literally said that they should renounce the 1.2 trillion in debt that the the US owes to China.
The mere fact that they are threatening that could be the beginning of the end.
Reserve currency status is the only thing keeping the empire afloat at this point. Once that is gone, it is game over. And Washington is doing everything in its power to convince the world that – politically and economically – the US is completely unreliable, unstable and, indeed, flat out crazy.
Under those circumstances, what are other nations to do?
Allow all this to continue?
This really could be the beginning of the end.
Current US federal budget $6.5 trillion.
Budget deficit $3 trillion.
45 cents in every dollar spent is borrowed.
From the statements of Trump, Graham, Raab and Macron, it seems highly likely there will be an attempt to steal Chinese assets on this and other pretexts.
There are many precedents for this – the seizure of Iranian properties abroad on the pretext that Iran carried out 9/11. Or the theft of 80 tons of Venezuelan gold. And Libyan gold and foreign assets. And ISIS gold. There are many other examples. Or Trump’s threats to “grab the oil.” Similar threats to steal Iraqi bank deposits in the US. There are many other examples.
US debt is ballooning totally out of control under the effect of the virus lockdown. Trump will try to solve US intractable financial and economic problems by outright theft and looting on absurd pretexts, through sanctions and trade wars, by demanding access to other countries’ markets and raw materials on preferential terms, and by demanding that they import their energy, agricultural products and technology from the US at inflated prices.
I am sure that you are right.
And, at least, Russia, Iran and China will resist.
We are living in far more dangerous times than just what this virus has caused.
Amongst the golds you forgot to mention Ukrainian gold..which was what first shipped Yatsenyuk to the US in the first moments after being placed in power.
With respect precedents, there were the seizure of Spanish galleons by British Royal Pirates, stolen gold on which it lays the City of London…
I’m going to bet there are hundreds of billions of dollars in Western investments inside China.And those would be instantly seized the moment the West tries to seize Chinese assets. I’ve warned for years that China investing in the US and other Western economies was just throwing that money away.Had they invested that money in countries that were friends of China’s,that would have been a benefit for both of them.But no,they thought sucking up to the West was better than building up their friends.And now they will understand how bad that idea was.
I bet some of those people never knew how ruthless the system is over here, so with ignorance being bliss, people believing what they want to believe.
But after the monday morning quarterbacking has been done, they will realize they were wrong and if they had another chance would have done things differently, but by then it will have been to little to late, just like all the others before them, including god.
Tip of the day: Dont bury your dreams so deeply that they dont even do you any good.
Good CrossTalk about the US and China. From 15:10 it gets really interesting,talking about the US planning war with China.
exactly! which is one reason I do not trust the Chinese at all. The Chinese are racist and elitist, who suck up to rich and powerful whites at the expense of those with whom genuine realtionships could be built which would be mutually beneficial.
aother is that the Chineses are are top down..not bottom up or horizontal socially. if you have a customer realtiohip problkem with them they do not care. when you say well the ‘customer is always right’ they do not care at all. they are not disposed to deal with your problem at all as an ordinary joe
they are all drones like that..top down, elitist. I see all the talk here about China, China China. I am not looking forward to Chinse domination at all. indeed I am not a fan at all of Chinses BRI which is nothing but Chinese imperialism.
the only good in the rise of capitalist China is the defeat of the USA hegemony..but most definitely not at the cost of the rise of the same by China..a Chinese global hegemon..a hegemony that will surely be worse that the American has been. magine that eh!
I wish to see a Chinese retreat on the BRI. I dont care what Chinese do in China but domination of the planet must not permit and finance whatever they do at home. whatever future realtionship that develops between China and the world ought to be one based on mutually self reliance and independence of all parties
You cant demand that someone pay you more for something they can get elsewhere, you will be ignored and occasionally laughed at.
Those who “ignore and laugh at” you may find themselves less happy when the assets they bought so cheaply are arbitrarily stolen from them without warning.
What assets are you talking about? Oil, pork, used gm car parts, and if the assets are, or were so cheap, why would someone need to steal them w/o warning, something here doesn’t make sense. Like my wife not understanding why I left her.
There is, however, an incredible stupidity for the US to go against China in such a way!
Yes, the USA can steal “assets”; but that is only fiat money and fields/houses on US soil.
The Chinese retaliation, however, would mean that there will be an incredibly shortage of all sort of things in the US: no more iphones, no more cisco routers, no more wifi devices, no more cameras, no more laptop computers, no more TV screens, no more hardphones, ….
The USA could have a lot of USD labelled “weight”, but if China refuses to sell them…
The US economy will be like the “stagnation years” in the SSSR, only heavy military equipment will be produced locally, with everything other in big shortage (with the huge difference that the military production in the SSSR back then was of good quality highly efficient items)
… actually it would be a GOOD thing that the Empire do such a stupid move.
Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat
Meanwhile, & I suspect for only a short while longer, the moneymasters will continue with the only trick they have, clearly foretold by bernanke here in his classic speech of Nov.21/2002, even before he got in as FED Chair in early 2006, replacing Easy Al.
(He also had another speech with that memorable sound-byte ‘helicopter money’ a few year later.)
Note how this method to their madness has indeed been their course of action, & has advanced since early last autumn’s notable policy changes & events to full-bore flank speed now.
NOV21; Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke Before the National Economists Club, Washington, D.C. November 21, 2002;
Deflation: Making Sure “It” Doesn’t Happen Here;
What has this got to do with monetary policy? Like gold, U.S. dollars have value only to the extent that they are strictly limited in supply. But the U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today,
its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost.
By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S.
government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to
raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a
determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation.;
Backup plan: contact, or just pray extra hard for a cargo cult run by the gods above to just airdrop a whole ship-load of supplies!:
Yet no one bothered to ask him what kind of inflation, price inflation, monetary inflation, asset inflation, gold inflation, economists are rather screwy when talking about inflation, its really a questionable profession.
Could the payment problem stem from country’s who owe us money and are now unwilling or unable to service their debts to us. That might be quite a snowball heading into a valley full of hungry people.
@Tom and commenters.
Given the widely observed US theft/seizure/ gazzumping of coved-19 medical equipment destined for France, Germany, Thailand …. Peru has taken to concealing its delivery details as it awaits a shipment from China.
I could not see why Cuba did not do likewise. Why on earth would anyone actually go out of their way to invite Washington to harm them?
As Marine Major General Smedley Darlington Butler stated, “war is a racket”. The General fought in a number of military engagements, including ones in Central America. In reality he fought on behalf of American corporations, ensuring the installment of puppet governments obedient to the US.
Inside the US we already have the start of absurd litigation’s against China, which demand absurd compensations. No doubt the US Government will follow, all with the aim of subverting the Chinese economy.
A year or so ago, Washington threatened Europe with sanctions if it did not cancel it’s participation in the Nord Stream – 2 gas pipeline. It did not even bother to quote any international law, for the simple reason no such law existed. Now I see that U.S. Senator Josh Hawley unveiled highly provocative legislation which would strip China of its sovereign immunity in American courts, a course of action which is not only totally absurd, but in direct contradiction with international law. What he is demanding is that the US Congress issue an imperial decree cancelling China’s sovereign status. Remarkable. Makes you wonder if American politicians have lost leave of their senses. Some obviously have.
A very interesting assessment. The Warmbier case shows that the ‘rules based order’ espoused by the US and its Western allies is not so rules based as they claim – they can ignore evidence from their own medical assessments to put forward a politicised demonisation case and use this as a pretext to make ridiculous compensation demands and even engage in state piracy in international waters to claim foreign nations’ property.
Quite abominable behaviour – the international community should really wake up and unite against this.
The Warmbier case shows that the ‘rules based order’ espoused by the US and its Western allies is not so rules based as they claim
The Mafia’s behavior is also “rules-based” — “based” on the legal rules, but ahem not exactly following them.
… ” … they can ignore evidence from their own medical assessments .. ” …
Yes they can. They do. Because they planned that course of action.
Classical false flag mode of operation.
Implant false , nonexistant evidence and react as if it existed.
Like , start a war against some country bssed on false , non existant evidence.
Like a war against iraq. Chemical danger weapon in iraq , nobody found later.
Like famous skripal poisoning , no evidence found.
Like syria poisoning its children , ” white helmets ” , as evidence team.
Like ” china virus ” , poisoning usa.
But it just proves that there is no thing such as international community.
It never existed.
At least it never existed in usa plan of actions , since usa always acted as if there is no thing such as international community , or , god forbid , international law.
Thank-you A. B. Abrams. I did not think of this kind of planned covert action but I am fully expecting some action from the USA, legal or illegal. In reality, I think that they have no option because becoming a normal country is anathema for them and it is par for the course to plunder. Yet, things are changing fast and perhaps, depending what the action consists of at the end of the day, its not going to be a slam dunk this time.
The US Naval Institute seems to lend credence to the old cliche that masturbation brings on insanity in the self-abuser.
As for the privateers and wannabe bounty hunters on the seas, they might want to account for a Chinese Navy, the PLAN, which has a decade of experience fighting pirates in the Red Sea, Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf waters, and five or more decades dueling with Vietnamese in the South China Sea, and the Japanese in the East China Sea. The Chinese know how to handle an aggressor or a challenge.
As for the weapons the Chinese have available, beyond the traditional naval and aviation array, China has hundreds of thousands of all sizes of, and armaments for, drones. No nation has more or is even close to what the Chinese can present. Part of the national defense on blue water and green water districts are over 4500 merchant ships that can have missiles aboard, and over 93,000 fishing vessels which can deploy small arms up to RPGs and machine guns. All these vessels are already linked in a communications system the PLAN operates.
With an army and navy that has millions of troops, it would cost almost nothing to post a few soldiers or sailors aboard all these vessels. Thus, whatever privateers bring to the fight will be dwarfed by the Chinese in numbers and firepower.
What this theoretical conflict will produce, most assuredly, is the next Sylvester Stallone film.
What this theoretical conflict will produce, most assuredly, is the next Sylvester Stallone film.
Or Bruce Lee film, perhaps?
Mexican American War (US Cavalry moved into territory previously agreed by US to be Mexican)
Fenian Raids into Canada (led by a US Military officer on ‘leave’ – leads to formation of IRA – attempts to initiate revolution in Canada to sunder from British Empire – fails but could have led to war)
USS Maine incident used to incite the Spanish American War later found to be a coal dust explosion
Philippine-American war started by US sentry shooting Filipino soldier
US stays out of WWI but secretly supplies Allied forces using civilian Cruise Liner – Lusitania torpedoed and used to justify entry into WWI by USA (fast forward about 80 years and … the Germans were right, it was carrying munitions
US sells Japan advanced war material, embargoes oil supply, leads to invasion of China
WWII US bankrolls Adolf Hitler (ends better for the USA than it did for Germany or the Soviet Union, or actually anybody else)
USA enters WWII on Allied side after Pearl Harbour – see McCollum memo ‘inducing Japan to an overt act of war’
Korean war – research this one yourself – wow
Viet Nam War – Gulf of Tonkin false flag
Iraq – “It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.” – Sure, you go with Donald Rumsfailed, have they been found yet???
So here we are again, trying to convince people they’ve been attacked – Hermann Goring: https://rense.com/general21/wara.htm
When the time comes, China can seize all American companies and assets in its territory. As well as all American patents and trademarks. Complete and terminal retaliation.
I’m not sure when I’ve read a sillier article. I had to skip down quite a way, to see if the author was actually going to say something about ‘Official State Piracy’. So, the US is going to hijack merchant ships carrying some of the $558B USD exports coming from China?
The willful decimation of the Western Economies is certainly going to have a gigantic impact on China. Where are all those exports going, when their customers have stopped buying? Right now, there are virtually no stores open in the West. Order cancellation from Western importers has probably just begun, and will be huge. This will accelerate the shift by China toward domestic consumption, which is a good thing for China, and the rest of the World as well. On the other side, this will increase policies in the West to repatriate production, also a good thing.
I agree fully with SreveK9!
the best response is for China in retreat, now that the west is shut down..going home focused there, staying there..
if shutting down the west was delibrate to recalibrate things, it may turn out to have been a very smart thing to do…forthe world. the west can also come home to their reality, out of the world finally, and the western peoples can get about dealing effectively with their capitalist class
I am hardly a fan of Chinese imperialism..BRI. BRI ultimatley will be as bad as western imperialism has been.
there is always right and a smiling face on the side of the imperialist on the way up. all the way up is an entirely a different and opposite matter.
World relations based on independent nations taking care of themselves and relating accordingly is an entirely different and positive prospect than the domination of one nation.
if Corona leads to this unintended result, what a ‘sooprize’ for its engineers, who for sure has nothng like such an outcome in mind
Speak for yourself. There are, believe it or not, entire swaths of the globe that actually wish to trade with China.
The US is the disruptor. Always threatening countries with sanctions if they don’t pull out of trade deals, fomenting wars to disrupt logistics (eg Piraeus – Belgrade- Budapest) fomenting conflict in the South China Sea…enough already.
Perhaps it’s time for US and the West to “Retreat, go home, focus there, stay there” as eloquently put it.
Yes. It is like a bunch of dam#@d pirates landed on the east coast about five hundred years ago, or something…
“There are, believe it or not, entire swaths of the globe that actually wish to trade with China”.
Including almost everyone in the USA – except for a handful of selfish, ignorant, deranged business leaders and government officials.
And why not trade with China? They are honest, practical, fairly straightforward, and they do not treat business as a zero-sum game. Instead, they look for ways in which everyone can benefit. Enlarging the cake, rather than fighting over the icing.
I did speak for myself! thats my opinion. I see lots of fauls with the Chinese that can grow to mean a heap of difficutlies for the rest of the world in any Chinese hegemony that arises
am I wrong to be concenred? is there no danger at all in the development of Chinese globalism/Imperialism?
I was was taught since a child that self railiance is all that matters…that if one is self sufficient he can walt away from anythng at all and be safe. indepenence is all. I see that american was short in its Corona responses could not make what was needed..needed manufacturing facility and skiils they no longer commanded
is that true..anf if it is what then?
Chinse could do whatever it wants but were I the leader fo any country self relaince and real independence is what I would be buidling..and relationships in the world that would support such development. n that way the world would be safe..no more imperialism..no more war..relations based entirely on mutuality..all nations in with a shot, able to take care of themselves inviolate
isnt that the idea? hwo in the hell does a super China from whom everyone buy everything fit into such a program?
China will breed an elite fed by that kind of globalism..on which China would come to feed greatly..and any threat to it would require some Chinese response would it not..the same crap we have now?
what about development of all the peoples of all the worlds nations..how can any nation develop its people outside of self reliace..dependence on China production for all it needs?
why not put al the rest of the children of the world into coops like chickens and feed then and forget about them? that should solve such issue nicely..tons of fed and fat human children who cant even speak real words. might as well eat them then
short of that I know what we would be able to do! send them all to China to get jobs. China is bound to need tons of field hands, street sweepers and picker-ups with garbage bags when the weather starts to get good and the parks need attention.
all Chinese kids would be in university at that time finishing up the year..and would need their summer to vacate themslves before returing in the fall. no street cleaning for those guys..the elites now
the more I look at that Chinese project the most distates for I develop. it is more disgusting capitalism where the corporations go concentrate and come out to dominate the worlds markets in an ever greater imperialism, this time behind the tremendous Chinese military, all pristine, bristling with exteme weaponry, youthful and strong and rearing to go..as opposed to the the american empire that has now clearly outlived its usefulness…is now old,decayed and weak.
for the life of me I cannot see how that Chinese project isnt going to blow up in the face of the world in a horrfic way, totally opposed to the popular interest and extremely capable of shutting down ordinary people globally. all the rotten money has gone there, into China, is behind al the prodution that China floods the world with.
and I have a pretty good idea who who the Chinese are. I have seen them up close. I know them, I went to the same schools a lot of them attended..over a 4 year period. they are not democratic at all. they are top down..elitist..the very ordinary guys. get into a custmer related issue with a Chinese related business and see for yourselves how the Chinese workers treat their customers. and they really have a department named customer service but from experience with that supermarket chain..customer service is oxymoron.
I have ever more and more, as it becomes apparent the rise of Chinese hegemony about the scial shape of it, the form it will take. Personally I would not care at all if they did not loom so large and powerful. we have not even got rid of the american power yet ,while we have this hungry monstrosity looiming already. it is the same western capitalist power now joind up with the Chinese behind it all..the same rapacious capitalism with a flavoured by Chinese aniseed.
the rest of the world in the advent of the decline of the USA must resist the developent of Chinese capitalist hegemony. and to achive they must focus on their own independent self reliance, and on mutually beneficial relations where they need each other, as well as the Chinese…trade that allnations find need to trade but no belt and road initiatives. BRI is more capitalist globalist enslaving plan, that does not augur well for for the ordinary people of the world
the people of the world must allow the BRI to die stillborn on its Chinese bed, while mutually beneficial relations fill the global vaccum as it should, as it must if the world is to go well..development of all nations on an independent self-reliant base..nations ableto meet all their human development needs from their own resources among themselves and with the nations of the world
the Chinese project is a trap… the same capitalism that has brought the human species to its knees. by the time the Chinese are done we will be flat on our backs
the Chinese must develop their nation on the same independent, self reliant basis…look after themselves and deal with the rest of the world as a self realiant and independent nation..not as insane, engineered shop keeper and global military tyrant of the planet, a shopkeeper on technologically engineered steriods, so big HE floods the world with cheap products we dont even need, polluting the world worse, wasting resources like the moster it is replacing and will out do for destructiveness
the human species does not need that China on capitalist steroids. the world needs Communist China, good global citizen focused on the development of Chinese humanity with proper, environmentally sound economic development that facilities such social advance for the Chinese people, and sets a bench mark for the world to work towards..moreso, given that the Chinese were ahead already, and should have stayed there.
It’s the same old solid, reliable diagnosis for the Western ”anti-authoritarians” which we see on full display here: As long as their perfect ultra-super-duper revolution fails to materialise, they’ll settle for Western imperialism. After all, the latter puts food on their table as well. Enemy consciousness turned into ”moral compass” as the rotting US demands everything from everybody in exchange for death and destruction.
One wonders how the peoples of Africa and Latin America would react to ”anti-authoritarian” Sinophobes/Russophobes. Standing ovations?
I disagree. The article does highlight very legitimate points regarding the nature of Western-led order and the threat posed to peaceful trading nations from seizures based on false pretexts.
To equate BRI investment with imperialism I think shows a serious lack of understanding of what imperialism is. Chinese fleets voyaged to East Africa, Oceania and possibly the Americas long before Europeans knew those places existed. There were no genocides, armed settler colonies or attempts to impose certain religions or ideologies.
Overseas investment isn’t imperialism. It can be if you carry out assassinations and coups to force other countries to accept investment on your terms (the French in West Africa being a prime example), but if simple foreign investment is imperialism then imperialism really has no meaning. This definition also serves to whitewash the genocidal crimes of genuine imperialists which wiped out the populations of three continents (Americas and Oceania) and caused tremendous suffering for two others.
BRI is a trade initiative. No one is being forced to do it.
You cannot legitimately call it “imperialism.”
Well, American leaders – and their various catamites in “the West” – agree with Humpty Dumpty.
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”
It wouldn’t be the first act of piracy by the US.
Remember how Paul Singer seized the Argentine vessel to cover the Argentine sovereign debt (which all other debt-holders had agreed to restructure, except for him)
The Anglozionists will insist on their pound of flesh even if the “debt” is an entirely arbitrary one..
Several empire starting points, specifically naval acts, that started what can clearly be called piracy.
1853 July 7 Commodore Perry sails into Tokyo Bay, demand Japan open its markets to outsiders.
1871 June 1 Gangwa Is. Garrison Incident Korea
1893 USS Boston in Honolulu Harbor intimidated local queen to allow annexation.
Irony above: notice ‘Singer’ is just one of the many big old family household names that willingly relocated everything to China ca late 1990’s.
”So, the US is going to hijack merchant ships carrying some of the $558B USD exports coming from China?”
Given the manifest insanity of the US, I wouldn’t put it past them to demand payment in addition to the merchandise, accompanied by violent, brute racism. That’s not particularly ”silly”, only highly repugnant.
“Where are all those exports going, when their customers have stopped buying?”
Why wouldn’t the Chinese simply keep them for themselves? Instead of getting tons of useless green paper in return, they would have a significant boost to their standard of living. And, if anyone really insists on having tons of paper in exchange, I am sure the Chinese government and its banks can oblige.
That is exactly what they should’ve done a long time ago. You’ll have to ask the Chinese why they haven’t. I suspect it is more a matter of habit then anything else.
“On the other side, this will increase policies in the West to repatriate production, also a good thing”.
Yes… if only it were not for the very long time lags in the system. And the fact that the West, in its doctrinaire dogmatism, insists on “payment in full” for everything. Already drowning in debt, no money can or will be forthcoming to build new factories and hire millions of workers.
The time lags are the killer. It’s easy enough to offshore production, but bringing it back would take decades. Not only do the factories and other plant have to be built from scratch; a whole generation of people who can actually do useful things would have to be trained from scratch. Twenty years minimum.
The US corporations will never bring manufacturing back to the US. They exported their manufacturing to China so they could increase profits, dividends, and executive compensation by tossing their US employees in the gutter and hiring cheap foreign labor. If manufacturing was moved from China, it would only be moved to another low cost country. The US workers would still be left in the gutter.
If you understood that Chinese exports account for just 18% of GDP, as compared with nearly 50% a short 15 years ago, you could perhaps make a logical statement.
@SteveK The West will never repatriate production, it will move production away from China to other cheap labor countries including in Asia. It was never about the working class in the US and the West, it was all about the rising economic super power competing against the world’s hegemon the US.
Lol but wait until the shut down is over,China will have to run everything 24/7 to keep up with the products and orders flowing into and from the big box stores.Its a dream to think that the 1% will change much of anything why would they when the profits are so good.
Now Trump can rant and rave all he wants but he’s still only a front a puppet put out there by the 1%,amazing how much certain segments of the population repeat what Trump says only to have him change it the next day,I don’t think people have a clue as to how long it would take industry to move from China, after all we have been selling out our jobs and production to China for 40 years,I really don’t expect much is really going to change after all their mentality is if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.!!!
You are delusional. China’s biggest export market is fellow Asian nations at $1.2 trillion out of its $2.5 trillion worth of exports in 2019, or 48%. Its exports to the US were just $420 billion or 16.8%, with half of that being US companies who manufacture goods in China due to cheap labour. So clearly, the US market IS NOT that significant to China in comparison to the rest of the globe.
Keep in mind that US companies also stay in China because it gives them easier access to that 1.4 billion strong market, and access too to other markets across the world where they can offer their goods at cheaper prices than if they were made in the US. You can throw tantrums all you want but it doesn’t change facts and reality.
I surely doubt the the Indispensiblistan will take two big moves in pirating chinese ships. Because the second one will trigger a harsh response from Beijing. XI jin knows pretty well they are not in the opium war circunstances.
1-build up their second and third naval base in Africa – besides from upgrading the existent Djibouti facilities and one in Venezuela practically overnight.
2-Stop important and vital exports to US and Canada, and further just select the items that will hurt the enemy the most.
3- Offer military aid to Syrian government and direct economic assistance to Iran.
I very much like this article. In my eyes, it is way more realistic than all these claims which predict a collapse of the West as a result of the Covid-19 crisis (and its consequences). The latter is just wishful thinking.
I think that the most important issue is how China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and related countries will master the Covid-19 crisis.
The agitprop hit pieces are everywhere, & surprise the slimes prints another one, so i’d say it’s only ramping up.
what i see happening is that when china re-opens it will be in fits & starts, so the production lines of everything will be same or worse, because of course missing just one part or ingredient shipped from somewhere whatever mode or not on time means nothing gets made.
So china will ration its output from whenever to whenever, to its best customers only & those nearby first, minimizing long external shipments. So during that time guess who’s going to be shipped nothing but boatloads of hot air?
so expect to see this year’s helloween masks & costumes featuring who ever is running just 1 week later to be made in usa. really!
but granted a country of 1.4b would require a lot of water, especially when industrializing at the pace it has been 25 years now.
hina Limited the Mekong’s Flow. Other Countries Suffered a Drought.
New research show that Beijing’s engineers appear to have directly caused the record low levels of water in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.
It looks as if its best customers are going to be the ones who are willing to pay the most for said product, that doesnt bode well for a country like ours that is flat broke, actually worse than flat broke, its in the hole and only digging deeper.
The question that the perversions and obscenities highlighted in this blog post raises is:
Which side of the Pindos is the most hideously ugly one — the inside or the outside?
They are freaking out about something which hasn’t been visited upon them deliberately and which their own piggish selves have exacerbated by morbid obesity and abysmal healthcare. In short: Proud about being an ugly, backward, and retarded people no matter what other countries and peoples might have to say. L445 nails it with his above remark to the effect that
Nussiminen’s verdict: Greedy scum from top to bottom. When someone dies that you were related to — what an excellent opportunity to demand hefty ”compensation”. In the US, that’s probably what passes for ”true love”.
And then there are the ”Flat Earthers” with their ”China-is-no-better” noises. Projection to the n:th degree.
That’s a trick question!
They’re consistently the same inside & outside, like a piggy puff (chicharrone):
Unlike a pig-in-a-blanket.
Is the United States About to Engage in Official State Piracy Against China?
Is the earth round rather than flat?
America and its “democratic” allies are pirate nations from top to bottom. So they are will instinctively seize upon the COVID-19 pretext to try and extort money from China.
But it won’t necessarily be through direct naval piracy only.
It will be through the launching of various lawsuits to provide a legal fig leaf for this piracy and then attempted seizures of Chinese business assets–similar to how America has seized and stolen the financial assets of Iran and Venezuela–as well as America repudiating repayment of the US Treasury “debts” that China has purchased.
The US Is Preparing to Default on Debts Owed to China
The Too “Savvy” Coronavirus
“It will be through the launching of various lawsuits to provide a legal fig leaf for this piracy”
When Spain was an empire and conquering America, before slaughtering a newly-encountered group of natives, the Spanish priests were required to ask the natives if they were willing to convert to Christianity.
The natives couldn’t speak Spanish, and couldn’t reply, so the Spanish were then legally allowed to kill the natives. That was the legal fig leaf.
I wish there was an ‘upvote’ facility on this blog. You are about the tenth person I’ve talked to or read online that has said this is what he U.$. is teeing up. They’ve been after this for years; a pretext to ‘cancel twenty trillion’ in foreign owned treasuries. Get your money out whilst you can. It will be gone in three months if you don’t.
Yes, they stole Venezuela’s money some days ago, 270 millions that went to the FED and 80 to the Guaido gang. They are trying to do the same with the money the country has in banks from Europe but the Europeans want that money for themselves too.
Americans would do well to remember that the fate of pirates is to be clapped in irons and hanged from the yard arm.
Except our pirates are soon to be sick and in bed. The proverbial capt wooden legged hook.
If the US seized a Chinese merchant vessel, the US warship involved in the seizure may ultimately have its ability to float seriously compromised.
Well, piracy may begin at home as far as the ZOG d’un country is concerned if this RT segment is to be believed. Secret plans to secure Washington DC and the levers of government by US military.
How ironic, regime change at home.
Approx at 16:46
This article is speculation but it is just what the minds of the Vineyard should be pondering.
The Deep State might bully Trump into doing a two-fer (two for the price of one)—that is, seize some hapless Chinese merchant ship in the Persian Gulf or one heading towards Venezuela.
There is much gnashing and thrashing about in Washington DC these days it does not appear that anyone is capable of rational, long term planning.
By the way, did the Russians ever get compensated for the extra judicial seizure of their consular properties by the looneytune state?
Surprised that the Opium Wars were not mentioned.
I like about this article that a means-to-war, of an unthinkable war, are suggested. Probably not just unthinkable/inconceivable, but one that is not imagined as ever going to happen. Which, despite all improbability links directly to the Great War, WWI, a war that was also unthinkable, and dumbfounding to all when it crashed down on them. This is a critical idea, and I applaud the author for not gerrymandering around the politically incorrect. The Great War was in many ways not unlike the present times, with an inconceivable build-up of armaments and cutting-edge technologies, simply eclipsing anything ever before witnessed in the history of the earth. This is today! There are now more weapons, and plans on how to best use them, than at any time, ever, and not by a little either, but by light years. The big question, besides who pulls the trigger first, and why they’re doing it, is, who will win, who will develop the best weapon. World War I, and the ten years leading up to it, were a race for internal combustion war-engines, and the conclusion of the war saw the effective development of this technology, readying for the next world war a new paradigm in total warfare, the total industrialized war. Obviously modern tactics have not had the chance to surpass this threshold of a total industrial war, and this remains the paradigm, just as siege warfare was the model for WWI. For that war, it was realized, too late for some, that siege warfare was not a practical use of internal combustion war engines, but rather that the war engines were best suited to mechanized warfare. All parties presently are attempting to capitalize on artificial intelligence and autonomous weapons, the money and time designing them has been spent in earnest for ten years now or more, and the question is how will these technologies become the battle tank ubermensch of the future?
This entire narrative is based on the premise that anybody in Asia cares what the USA is saying.
1.) In USA anybody can sue anybody for anything. So what.
2.) Trump has been talking insanity since the day he was elected.Do you think that anybody in Asia gives him any credibility.
3.) The only credibility that the USA has is the $2.5 Trillion last week, and the 3.5T next week that will be printed and floated to those ‘connected’ and go along. This sounds of course a lot like the “Emperors New Clothes”. Where soon somebody in Asia will come forward and say “Look Trump is Naked, and the USD is worthless”.
I guess for right now the only proof in the pudding is if China were to sell their $2T in USD T-bills and buy gold, we don’t see them doing that. The other reality is that everything that the USA public buys is Walmart&Costco, and 100% of their stock comes from China.
The USA doesn’t make anything.
What you have is a retarded monkey tribe that can create trinkets to infinity gets the world to make its toys. If you watch closely what’s happening is offshore manufacturing is demanding to be paid in Gold, and China-India have announced last month that all drugs are to be kept for their own people ( +3 billion ). So the very near future USA will have no drugs of any kind, and if they keep up the retarded rhetoric the shelves will become empty.
”So the very near future USA will have no drugs of any kind, and if they keep up the retarded rhetoric the shelves will become empty.”
Now everyone should see why China really could go all in selling massive amounts of opium to these degenerates, LOL.
I “love” the phony pretext that Washington gives for asserting without any empirical basis whatsoever that China is guilty of purposely spreading the corona virus worldwide and hiding this fact from the entire international community, thereby purportedly legitimizing unrestricted “legal” judgments in American kangaroo courts justifying the seizure of trillions of dollars worth of Chinese assets, viz., the Chinese sovereign government will not allow American investigators to waltz into their country and freely collect “evidence” against it, as if Washington would allow any foreign power to do the same within the borders of its territory. Washington to Beijing: You will not allow us unlimited access to all your books, records, personal recollections and testimony which we would invariably interpret in the worst possible light and always assigning the most heinous of motives, so we are assuming the power to frame you for what would be a completely novel charge in the entire history of jurisprudence, and are therefore entitled to summarily pronounce you guilty and levy whatever penalties we please at our leisure and discretion–and believe us, they will be of a magnitude beyond all imagination. They will make the annihilation of Carthage by Rome look like angelic altruism by comparison. Oh, and never mind that Washington handled the corona virus pandemic in its own midst, having the luxury of China’s example many weeks in advance, epically worse than China (or any other country), because we are not putting ourselves on trial like we are doing to you. After all, we are the world hegemon and China is merely one of our compliant vassals, in case you didn’t realise that absolute truth.
If I were China, and such a policy seemed about to be seriously contemplated, I’d point out that there are an awful lot of part-American-owned enterprises in China that really ought to be nationalized in the public interest. And a lot of American patents and such that could be invalidated with the stroke of a pen.
Meanwhile, if I were China I would be getting serious about electric transportation and electrified industry–China has time to phase out coal because they have plenty of their own, but oil, even with Russia’s help, they gotta import a bunch. Phasing out gasoline and diesel is phasing out dependency.
Mod J: I trashed your first attempt to post your time-wasting drivel. It has no place on this blog. Consider yourself so advised. Thank-you.
Warmbier = warm beer = very tasty = Zionist Intel hoax.
Time for China to lay a bunch of global economic sanctions against the American gangsters. Without Chinese merchandise consumers in the developed world are transported back to the 1950’s. Suck on that lifestyle. If Washington starts attacking Chinese vessels, haul out the carrier killer missiles and send a few of those Covid-infested tin cans down to Davy Jones’ Locker. Time for this BS gangsterism and world-wide intimidation to end. I am so embarrassed by the lack of morals my own country ceaselessly displays. Teaching it a lesson can only be considered a remedy. After the dust clears, the disgusting place will be both totally bankrupt and thoroughly disgraced.
The US is close to the fate that befalls all alpha-males in nature.
Of course another one will take its place in Homo simian society.
I guess it’s time for China to equip their merchant fleet with the Club-K container missile systems, just in case, so the hotheads in Pentagon don’t get any funky ideas, unfortunately the only language they know of and respect is the language of power, then you must communicate with them in their own language, otherwise they want understand you.
Choosing between the US and China is like choosing between a demon and Satan. Decide who is who. Both are rabidly criminal in their own ways.
All of those, who think China will get on top of this, should take a minute to rethink (very interesting how Russian China experts talk like China will rise even faster after this, speaking of expert fools). America’s debt is China’s export. Just consider the world public sentiment against China after this debacle (never-mind the lunatic recalcitrance of the CCP by allowing wet markets to open again!), which if sustained and with political decisions, whole supply chains will be moved from China in a decade.
The world is in trouble big time – this virus, highly dangerous or not, will be superseded by the economic, military and political ramifications.
”Choosing between the US and China is like choosing between a demon and Satan. Decide who is who. Both are rabidly criminal in their own ways.”
How is China ”rabidly criminal” ? I know of only four states that live up to that description: The US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UK (the EU is totally rotten, but is less outright murderous). To paraphrase your Earth-is-flat assertion, I would say say that for the Global South, choosing between the US and China is like choosing between a clinically insane and a normal person. Sadly, there is a strong and growing groundswell of support for China. How are we going to correct that?
Butthurt Westerners are a funny breed. Just ignoring plain, material reality for the sake of their supremacist dogma.
(deleted – please keep it civil. thx. mod) Just a few examples, debt bondage of client states, concentration camps for minorities, outright slavery of minorities, slow genocide by out breeding and displacing of minorities, organ harvesting of all kinds of prisoners, wholesale destruction of the natural environment, racist and ethnocentric population, international gangsterism by pushing faulty products, precursors products for drug cartels, pushing fentanyl like a drug lord on a industrial scale, spying and ripping off the world, totalitarian state, no religious freedom, no protection of personal rights – just naked power interest and as a foreigner you have zero rights, total inversion of international order by burying assets worldwide and prohibit foreigners from doing so in China, technology transfer if you want to do business in China… I could write more but you certainly wouldn’t care.
I think mr Abrams is giving space to dreamatical [ I’ve just invented the term] hyposcenarios just to build up a whole article – without permitting anyone to say: look, you ‘ve forgotten this and this remote possibility.
C ome on!
The pentagonic wishful imperialoids have proven to exaustion in the last 20 so years how
far their caution cowardice can go.
This is no Lybia, Iraq or Granada.
It will not be exactly now that the would-have-been Pattons of warshington will advance a move so stupid as grabbing one or two chinese cargo ships…because the SMS are screaming that a aggressive, pesistent yellow virus is itching their ass. I mean, supposing the proud fleet carriers have one. Or freeze one trillion chinese assets.
Because this gesture will trigger a second one, a backlash then a third one.
Remember how they have built up two hospitals from zero.
It woud take just one year of a joint chinese economic effort or war effort or both to level the empire to ground zero.
Better not figure out what a suicide looks like.
It goes without saying that the levels of arrogance and greed as per the above link should resonate just marvelously with militant self-worshipping parasites and morons such as the Pindos. Their claims to exceptionalism and indispensability are just their parasitism dressed up as ideological contortions.
Now, if we concentrate on what could be an appropriate verbal response from the CCP, I suggest something along these lines:
You know these people have lost their minds when they introduce a bill that has no method of enforcement.
Regarding Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, in the 1920s, Herbert Hoover, a ruthless mining engineer who worked for the Rothschilds, bought up almost all of the WW1 documents from the desperate European governments in exchange for food supplies. He shipped massive amounts of documents to Stanford (trainloads) which were denied public access and manipulated to blame WW1 on Germany. Then Stanford and Oxford made sure that this version of events were published in the fake history books of the West. Hoover was awarded the Presidency for his service to the Anglo-Zionists.
This was the lie of the 20th Century, just as the official version of 911 is the lie of the 21st Century. These lies are necessary to the Anglo-Zionists, because the truth would reveal who our real enemies are.
One glaring problem for the Empire is that there are just not enough assets to take. The scale of the problem is so huge, that the few trillion the Empire could grab even in a very lucky and successful piracy campaign would not be enough to fill the hole. It’s hard to say how big of a hole the Wall St/major corporation ponzi is, but they’ve basically robbed the Empire and much of the world economy blind already.
The bigger problem is that the assets already taken are about to be seized back by their rightful owner, this was not part of their plan, and ergo anything different than that is better than that.
Any ending is better than a mending.
This article is based on fake data about the USA. There is a massive amount of lying as to cause of death on death certificates.
Research in California shows that a massive proportion of the population in the infected area already have antibodies for Covid-19. For every person who was declared “infected” between 55-80 people were with antibodies in the community. In any case, only a tiny proportion of the “infected” had symptoms and needed to enter hospital. In sum, it is a gigantic hoax. Much bigger than 9/11
The destruction of the world’s economies will result in millions of deaths. There was absolutely no need for lockdowns except for the elderly, obese and those with serious health problems.
Some thoughts to ponder concerning Russia and China.
1 – Both countries, including most other others, know the truth about 9/11, yet they wont publicly call out the ZioAmericans on it ? Why not ?
2 – China, who is heavily dependent on oil, has to know about alternative energy technologies, around since at least the time of Tesla, yet it doesn’t role them out to free itself of oil dependence. Why not ?
3 – Does Russia and China print its own debt free ? If they dont, why not ?
4 – Are Russian and Chinese banks tied into the Rothschild controlled central banking system ?
5 – Russia has already had its property stolen by the ZioAmericans, yet it didnt retaliate. Why not ? Why would China ?
6 – The ZioAmericans had known for decades that the debt based financial system is unsustainable. This is one of the main reasons they’ve racked up massive debt, as they had know intention of paying it back. They want a Chinese retaliation and they will do anything to get it, however, they have to make it look like the Chinese are the aggressors, therefore, a virus was rolled out.
The first class action lawsuit against China was filed yesterday folks:
A desperate move by a desperate peoples. They surely wouldnt agree if a different type of shoe was on a different foot and they were now on the defensive, which it is.
No kidding! This is the definition of desperation. Note how in sync the EU and the other vassals have quickly fallen in line regarding extracting some sort of concessions on trade from China, masquerading behind these class action lawsuits. I am convinced that now the financially failing EU will ask China to buy its version of T-Bills as reparations of sorts. And China will do it!
Something that confuses me is that we all know china is always hungry for oil, and why would the U.S. have to pay people to store it unless china stopped buying our petroleum products. And if they have, could this be the motivation for blame of the virus on china as a mechanism to try some funky stuff, not that it would work, china doesnt need much beyond pork to feed its population and perhaps some raw materials which they must have located somewhere by now.
Can you say secret trade war.
Yeah its very fishy ain’t it. With China, nobody can put a finger on it and be able to tell the facts. I personally believe that the West needs China and China needs the West. It’s been this way ever since Nixon walked into Beijing back in 1972, to drive that famous wedge in the festering schism in communist dogma, between the USSR and the China. We don’t know what’s truly going on. One thing is for sure, that China needs the western markets. And to add to your raw materials bit, with immense coal seams widely distributed throughout China, fracking that dirty coal is just a matter of time for the Chinese. They got plenty of unconventional gas if they want, via this route, wonder why they ain’t fracking? Fracking is Luddite tech. I know because I worked on a similar project down under. Nothing to it. Just have to keep drilling and keep fracking, non stop. China will bail out the EU……just like it bailed out Wall Street in 2009. They got plenty of cash for infrastructure projects and a gynormous domestic market for goods and services. Nobody in their right sense would want to lose the Chinese market. I refuse to buy the notion that the West and China are headed for a divorce.
Regarding the obnoxious lowlives demanding ”compensation”:
China should send them Covid infested Pindo flags and copious loads of very potent opium — problem solved instantly.
I guess you could say that the Corona pandemic turned out to be the ultimate proof positive of the Pindos’ infantile narcissism, unrestrained greed, and rank parasitism. They were shocked how they could be struck by some virus allegedly originating in China (no, they can’t find it on a map), calling into question their perceptions of themselves as an exceptional, indispensable people. At the same time, it gave a boost to their utter, parasitic immorality as it manifests itself in the domestic Pindo practice of suing anybody for anything anytime. While the question regarding the sincerity of their rage isn’t unfounded, I think it’s misleading. It’s a national trait ”over there”.
There is no chance that the US will try to do to China what it did to North Korea. The US needs China far more than China needs the United States. Exports are only 20 percent of the Chinese economy. China is now the US’s third-largest export market. The US is dependent on China for a wide array of goods, including medicines. The US needs China to buy its debt. (and not dump the massive holdings of debt it now owns)