By Nat South for the Saker Blog
There are some comments made on social media, to whitewash and downplay the serious issue regarding a far-right/ ultranationalist movement in Ukraine. Such simplistic takes are seen as a sound reason for denying a Russian military intervention* in Ukraine. This article provides some responses to these, by using a combination of corporate MSM and Ukrainian information to address the points made about a handful of far-right groups and individuals and their influence.
- How many deputies does Right Sector or other ultranationalists have in the Ukrainian Rada?
Remarkably, people use this stance over and over on social media and in the press to justify that there is no ultranationalism problem in Ukraine. To them, support & evidence and ultra-nationalism ought to translate into votes and winning seats in the Ukrainian parliament. If only it were as simple it is seems. It goes much much deeper, and the roots are deeply established.
The focus isn’t that there are just a few ultra-nationalists that were elected to politics recently, but how since 2014 ultra-nationalists were a vector for unsettling changes in socio-political structures and provided cover for wider acceptance of an overtly fascist ethno- nationalism within Ukrainian institutions, namely in education and in the military.
Roll back a few years, there were plenty that used their status as a volunteer fighter in Donbass (known as the Anti-Terrorism Operation — ATO) to get elected back in 2014. Practically all of them lost in the 2019 parliamentary elections. This is the crucial aspect to carefully note. The background to the 2019 parliamentary elections was when Zelensky had been elected as president on a platform to bring peace to the country.
Here are some examples of the Donbass ATO unit members who become deputies:
- Ex-commander Azov battalion: Andriy Biletsky (ex Verkhovna Rada deputy 2014- 2019), founder of the neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly;
- Ex-commander Aidar battalion: Sergei Melnichuk (Ex-Rada deputy 2014-2019);
- Ex- company commander, Aidar: Ihor Lapin (Ex- Rada deputy 2014-2019);
- Ex- Dnipro Battalion commander: Yuriy Bereza
- Ex-Aidar volunteer, helicopter pilot, Nadiya Savchenko — Ex-Rada deputy (2014-2018)
- Ex-commander of Donbass battalion: Konstantin Grishin, former Rada deputy, (Self-Help party), alias – Semyon Semenchenko.
Only of one of the above was elected and represented a radical right party, the Radical Party of Oleh Lyashko, all of the others stood for mainstream political parties. Notably, the leader of the Radical Party (RP) Oleh Lyashko did admit that members of his party murdered anti-Maidan leaders during the ‘revolution of dignity’ and extrajudicial murders of non-combatants in Torez in 2014.
Yet, all of the above Rada Deputies served in far right / ultranationalist volunteer units. The very same nationalist units cited on multiple occasions in human right reports for “credible allegations of torture and other egregious abuses” + incommunicado detention & violence against civilians . Additionally, there are many others who fought in Donbass and also became Rada deputies.
Moreover, many of the far-right fringe groups successfully stood for election in 2014, reflecting a change in perception. However, 5 years later, the reality of what the ultra-nationalists brought with them, (regular threats, conflict, language & cultural restrictions, corruption, crime) was no longer acceptable to the majority of ordinary voters.
“The election result was the one-party majority, a novelty in Ukraine, for President Zelenskyy’s Servant of the People party with 254 seats.” Wikipedia. This is the crux of the matter, people wanted a change, people just did not want to vote for the ultranationalists parties and their policies. The likes of Svoboda, led by Oleh Tyahnybok did get 2.15% and just the one seat in the Verkhovna Rada. Even Oleh Lyashko lost his seat in 2019.
During the last 8 years, a number of prominent ultra-nationalist groups have made their mark on Ukrainian society. The notorious Azov’s political wing, the National Corps headed by none other than the ex-Azov commander, Andrei Biletskiy, as well as Right Sector, and its armed Volunteer Ukrainian Corps (DUK) and UVA, along with Svoboda linked groups, (key Maidan participants), have been consistently and fiercely opposed to any sort of a peace settlement in Donbass.
Similarly, the ex-Rada deputies, who participated in the Donbass ATO, other ultra-nationalists, have to date, largely enjoyed judicial impunity in the wake of committing crimes, given their official status and connections to military and nationalist units. Some examples of this are provided later in the article.
Electorally, the ultranationalist parties may not be popular and get parliamentary seats, due to a wish for a change in politics, namely a peace settlement in Donbass, but also due to the various fractions, frictions and bickering between ultranationalists groups. Obtaining a peace settlement was one of the main electoral promises made by Zelensky in 2019. Hence, the overwhelming election of Zelensky, across the board, with 73% of the votes, apparently due to widespread disenchantment with Petro Poroshenko’s policies.
Ever since the events in Maidan back in 2014, ultra-nationalists have latched themselves in various sectors, local politics, police, the security service (SBU) and military structures. There are numerous examples of this over this 8-year period, too many to cite here, but just a couple examples provided to underscore the extent of the power and influence of ultra-nationalists in Ukraine, as well as highlight the cooperation between official bodies and far-right groups and outline some of the ties that ultra-nationalists have.
A suspect in the 2015 murder of the journalist Oles’ Buzina, an ultranationalist, ex-ATO volunteer (Kyiv-2), Andrey Medvedko, (ex-Svoboda Party, ex C-14) was voted in 2019 to the public council of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU). Medvedko was never put on trial.
Avowed neo-nazi, Azov deputy commander, Vadim Troyan, was appointed in 2014 by the Interior minister (MVD), Arsen Avakov, as police chief for Kyiv Oblast & later in 2016, promoted to 1st deputy chief of the new National Police.
It is the same MVD minister, Avakov, who helped to create the ATO volunteer battalions in 2014, but also backed Azov as well, and then integrated Azov into the National Guard structure. This is the same Interior minister who said in 2014, “to promise the Russians anything, and then hang them after the victory”.
In 2018, C-14 was used as a vigilante group, signed a partnership with a local Kyiv Council and also the police to carry out patrols. This is the same group that got sponsorship from the Ministry of Youth & Sports, “under less $17,000 for a children’s camp.” The same C-14 that carried out pogroms against Roma. The C-14 leader, Yevhen Yaras openly acknowledged working with the Ukrainian security service, (SBU).
Just when things couldn’t actually deteriorate regarding deeply unsavoury shenanigans at the highest levels, Zelensky appointed Oleksandr Poklad as the SBU’s counter-intelligence chief in 2021. Poklad known as the ‘The Strangler’ is a decidedly shady character, typical of the post-Maidan scene, with links to organised crimes and involvement in extrajudicial killings.
March 2022, some everyday examples of ultra-nationalists in power, as mayors of Ivano-Frankivsk, Konotop (article) or the city council of Ternopil with their huge banner of Bandera. In fact, they don’t hide the fact that they revere Bandera and his ideology, (more on this in the 2nd part of this article).
Over just half of all the funds allocated by the Ukrainian government for children’s and youth organisations in 2020 went to various ultra-nationalist projects. All done primarily to foster and increase an already existing popularity for Bandera.
Now replicate these examples a thousand times over, across Ukraine over eight years to get a sense of the tip of the ultra-nationalist iceberg. More examples are also provided later in the article.
Back in 2019, Zelensky tried to advocate for peace, but ended up appeasing the ultra-nationalists and of late, progressively established himself more and more with individuals and groups, from those very same radical ultra nationalist / extremists entities.
Ex-president Petro Poroshenko, likewise has used the nationalist leaders and groups during the 1st December 2021 demonstrations against Zelensky. Basically, a rent-a-mob those various political entities use to their advantage. This exchange of mindsets isn’t surprising, given that Andriy Parubiy,  , the co-founder of Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine, was the on the party list for Poroshenko’s “European Solidarity Party”. An example of an ultra-nationalist gaining some traction by extending into the ‘conventional’ political system.
Although the ultra-nationalists as political parties are on the margins, they still have significant socio-political influence wider in society. For instance, the parades and massive torchlight rallies in Ukraine by various ultra-nationalists, approved by local authorities and local enforcement, reminiscent of the 1930’s torchlight processions. Paradoxically, the Western press expressed anguish and anger when such a torchlight march took place in in Charlottesville, USA, the one. But in Ukraine, nothing of the sort is expressed by Western corporate MSM on the numerous marches in various Ukrainian cities.
Additionally, although Zelensky initially make some tentative steps to try and get a peace settlement back in autumn 2019, this was totally scuppered by the threats made by ultra-nationalists, who forcefully asserted their “No Capitulation” campaign. Other high-profile Ukrainian politicians “drew red lines that Zelensky should not cross during the Normandy Format meeting”.
Moreover, no concerted attempts were made by Brussels, Washington or the OSCE to effectively pressurise Zelensky to cut loose from using ultra-nationalist units in the military, (first and foremost: Azov), nor were any efforts made to assist Zelensky in removing the ultra-nationalists out of official or elected positions.
2. There are just a handful of neo-Nazis / ultra-nationalists / extremists. Or, they’re only 0,005% of the military.
By solely mentioning ‘Azov’ as being teeming with Neo-Nazis, alleging that there are only about 900 to 1500 members, thus stating that is it a relatively small proportion compared to the total Ukrainian armed forces. Thus, the Neo-Nazis and ultra-nationalists is correspondingly insignificant. As if that was okay to start with.
“Ah but there are neo-Nazis in most militaries…” This type of comment misses the point completely. Only Ukraine has tolerated whole units with Neo-Nazis or supporters of Bandera and allowed units to have fascist-inspired insignia and flags. Only in Ukraine, is overt Neo-Nazi ideology permitted in the ranks. For the sake of fighting the ‘Muscovites’.
Yet, just Azov accounts for more than 1500 volunteers, up to double or triple that numbers, given the other battalions, as well as 2 regiments and other units across Ukraine. Add in the Right Sector’s units, conservatively estimated at around 10,000 volunteers. Not included are also other ultra-nationalist military units, Aidar, Donbass, nor the special police battalions, including Kharkiv, Dnipro, Kyiv-1, Kyiv-2 and a dozen other units. Then there are others such as the Carpathian Sich, OUN volunteers and foreign volunteer units. Their odious ideology and zeal is matched with their outright hatred for Russians. Some ultra-nationalists love to wear the Totenkopf, a symbol by the SS stormtroopers, who considered themselves to be the elite. These ultra-nationalists are currently the spearhead in fighting Russian forces across Ukraine.
Recently, the French President, Emmanuel Macron claimed that Russia’s special operation to demilitarise and “de-Nazify” Ukraine is “not a fight against Nazism”. A prime example of the denial or attempt to ignore some deeply serious issues that are being constantly overlooked by Western politicians and MSM. Evidently, he never got to read The Atlantic Council’s 2018 article Ukraine’s far-right problems or browsed through this photo essay.
The concept of ‘de-nazifying’ is probably totally lost on most people in the West. What should have been added was a reference to reclaiming nazi-era ideology and glorifying nationally a nazi-inspired supremacist. Even Zelensky stated categorically that “this is a normal and cool thing.” Why would he need to say such things if it wasn’t to placate and please a certain part of Ukrainian society?
“There are indisputable heroes. Stepan Bandera is a hero for a certain part of Ukrainians, and this is a normal and cool thing. He was one of those who defended the freedom of Ukraine.” Zelensky
Ethno-ultra-nationalism in Ukraine has different strands, but all converge on reclaiming the ideology espoused by Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and Ukrainian Partisan Army (UPA) and their activities in the 1940’s. Right Sector, OUN, C-14, National Corps foster and practice a cult principally centred on Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, (See the photo below — Bandera Readings 2022, for an example). The government is no exception either, along with the Rada as well in promoting, nurturing these WWII fascist leaders, in order to establish them as part of Ukrainian culture. Bandera has been officially recognised as a national hero since 2010. Maidan was the catalyst in accelerating this process, more violently, more brutally on one hand and more insidiously by officials in education, culture and the military. Violent far right units that got patronage from Washington and Brussels.
As the C-14 leader, Yevhen Yaras stated back in February, it is not a question of numbers per se, but actual influence and capability to mobilise people and resources. This was the vividly the case in Maidan, (as reported in a BBC documentary), and as he clearly said in his talk, and it is still certainly the case nowadays.
A clear example of this influence happened in December 2021, when Zelensky appointed the Right Sector founder, Dmitro Yarosh, as advisor to the chief of the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces. More recently, in March 2022, Zelensky appointed the ex-Aidar commander, Maksym Marchenko, as the new head of the Odessa Administration.
Ultra-nationalists have been unable to regain a political foothold via the political parties, yet this doesn’t stop them from asserting their presence in society in general:
- marches & demonstrations; (15,000 Ukraine nationalists march for divisive Bandera — USA Today)
- disrupting council meetings & court proceedings; (BBC documentary 2018)
- pogroms against Roma (Kyiv, Lviv);
- attacked other protests & events (LGBT, environmentalists, International women’ s day marchers) as reported by HRW;
- intimidation, blackmail and murders of opponents.
Their deeply unsavoury activities did raise alarm by human right and civic groups back in 2018. The concerns were about how the far right “created an atmosphere of near total impunity that cannot but embolden these groups to commit more attacks“. This deplorable situation has never been dealt with by authorities. Fast-forward five years, the reluctance was still there to even start tackling part of the problem. Rather than being seen as a liability, their presence is seen in some quarters as a necessary obligation.
Thus, the ultra-nationalists gained a firmer foothold, by the fact that they were the ones who went to the ATO, the ones willing to continue fighting in Donbass. Add in a perpetual fear that these groups could turn against the government or officials, as recently evidenced by the 1st of December 2021 protests, no official is willing to confront them. This shows the extent of the influence and power that they can wield. For instance, Dmytro Yarosh, the founder of Right Sector publicly threatened Zelensky in an interview that he would hang from a tree.
Since 2018, a continuous effort has been made to legitimise Ukraine’s extremists, (i.e. 2018 — National Militia cooperation with the police, during the 2019 election). Even though, groups linked to Azov, and both military wings of Right Sector are in fact illegal military groups, not officially part of the military or National Guard structure, it is telling how they are seen and valued at the highest levels of government.
1st December 2021 saw Zelenskiy in the Verkhovna Rada, giving the country’s highest state award, “Hero of Ukraine”, to the Right Sector unit commander, Dmitro Kotsyubailo. The unit is part of the Right Sector’s Volunteer Ukrainian Corps (DUK), a stand-alone irregular military unit, part of Right Sector.
A reminder to the readers that Right Sector units are predominantly manned by ultra-nationalists and neo-nazis. An example is Dmitro Kotsyubailo himself as one of thousands of examples, (centre photo with statue of Bandera and Right Sector flags):
Dmitro Kotsyubailo’s unit has been given anti-tank missile systems. Likewise, an Azov unit in Kharkiv got given the same systems, as this tweet shows:
As I said earlier, here are the ultra-nationalist units that get fast tracked training & access to NATO weaponry, as part of a total of $2.5 billion given by the U.S. alone to Ukraine. This isn’t indicative of a tolerance by Kyiv, but tacit acceptance of these units as well as the ideological stance that they have. Not only Kyiv, but Washington, London, Paris, and Brussels. A modern-day revamping of Op Gladio style units to fight the Russian military now and Donbass units since 2014.
A broader perspective can be glimpse through these selected headlines:
- For Ukraine’s Far Right, War With Russia Can Be an Opportunity (Haaretz 2022)
- Preparing for War With Ukraine’s Fascist Defenders of Freedom (Foreign Policy 2014)
- A Year After 1/6, Ukraine’s War Draws U.S. Far-Right to Fight Russia, Train for Violence at Home (Newsweek 2022)
Western politicians, corporate media, think tanks experts are blatantly ignoring these deeply unpleasant aspects in Ukraine. However, given the widely circulated MSM articles that flagged up the far-right in Ukraine, most media outlets and journalists are willingly glossing over these aspects as well as the accompanying violence and brutality against civilians for daring to oppose this Ukrainian ideology. All in the pursuit of fighting the Russian military.
It is fair to say that overtly fascist elements provide a stream of volunteers for Azov, Right Sector, C-14, OUN, National Corps, and others, whose members have been integrated into the military, National Guard, police, security services & also in mainstream political parties. Paradoxically, the Russian intervention has provided a catalyst for the growth in Ukrainian ultra-nationalist military units.
Blindsided by citing simplistic comments, those who do not wish to look any further, as such, for them, there are just a handful of weak ultranationalists. Case closed, conveniently so for them. Yet, the disturbing reality shows the opposite and this article only attempted to provide a brief insight. The Ukrainian ultra-nationalists certainly pack a punch above their weight.
Both the U.S and Europe only understand to some extent the considerable danger represented by violent extremism when is present in their countries. Yet, they shut their eyes to very same danger, amplified by a conflict, fostered with the connivance of authorities.
* to use a standard U.S. and NATO MSM/military terminology.
 which became the political party ‘Svoboda’. He was also the leading hand of Euromaidan “Self-Defense” fighters and activists.
Evidence that the US imperialists “predicted” Russia’s invasion of Ukraine months before it happened
an excellent article, very useful.
Southfront is reporting torture and war crimes against RF POWs via videos sourced from Ukie social media posts.
If justification was ever needed to use thermobaric weapons then that footage is it,truly shocking videos
The West has no moral right to talk about torture and human rights. Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria…..
It is a very sad way to achieve danizification, but this video from Patrick Lancaster interviewing the refugees from Mariupol shows that all it takes to ensure the natives will hate that Ukrainian nationalists is to leave them trapped in a city together with those monsters for 20 days.
“It is a very sad way to achieve danizification,”
“to ensure the natives will hate that Ukrainian nationalists is to leave them trapped in a city together”
As previous generations have observed: Abscence makes the heart grow fonder; whilst familiarity breeds contempt.
It also works elsewhere – the destruction of illusions are often painful, and hence why the strategies of The Russian Federation and their associates have been and continue to be, informed by “How to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback ?” in parallel with various methods of de-nazification, whilst the opponents are wedded to some degree in Alexandrine techniques when in the company of Gordian knots.
These strategies have also been informed since 1969 by the following which has been regularly updated :
“The Jaw-Dropping Power of US Propaganda”
Evaluation is a function of purpose and one of the purposes of “US propaganda” is to facilitate the sustainability, in slightly modulated forms if required, of coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America”.
Evaluation is simultaneously a function of facility, including methods of evaluation and scope of datastreams subjected to methods of evaluation, and notions of causal interactions/relationships.
To paraphrase Mr. Marx most “philosophers” described the world where the point is to change it, where as some change it by implementing rigorous tested philosophies/strategies.
On analyses that can in limited form be tested, it appears that for some the jaw-dropping power of US Propaganda renders them more comatose and bereft of informed agency, whilst some compare propaganda and their experience and wish to return to a time which never existed, whilst others subjected to the actions of Us – the “others” – are rendered more motivated to engage in lateral change in co-operation with others, since they perceive this as the most viable option to continue their existence – the ones who “lie” to evaluators whilst in different contexts of opportunity kill them.
In growing effect the jaw-dropping power of US Propaganda renders potential pre-disposed supporters even more comatose and reliant on hopes, whilst simultaneously encouraging the coalescence and resolve of their opponents to transcend the “Us” with the minimum of blowback.
Consequently in significant measure the jaw-dropping power of US Propaganda decreases the informed agency of potential pre-disposed supporters whilst simulaneously increasing the coalescence and hence agency of the opponents of “Us”.
The jaw-dropping power of US Propaganda lies in the sawing of branches upon which they are supported whilst simultaneously increasing the opponents who can make use of such “unforeseen consequences” thereby defeating its purpose, facilitating their dropping not restricted to jaws.
In different register:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the King’s horses and all the King’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.
Propaganda, hmm, at what cost? All these mouthpiece outlets need to be fed on the giant roundabout. You then need to keep doubling up/down on the propaganda as cracks in narrative appear. As the CIA’s entrenched in every aspect/cost centre of propaganda, they disperse budgets down the MSM gravy chain, similar to the Ukrainian Government funding neo-Nazi battalions. OK so the propaganda wing don’t do the actual butchering but their hand is on the trigger, in the biolab, dispensing poison.
“OK so the propaganda wing don’t do the actual butchering but their hand is on the trigger, in the biolab, dispensing poison.”
Thank you for your confirmation that you understand almost nothing contained in SaltandPepper on March 27, 2022 · at 1:54 pm EST/EDT whilst being immersed to it, including but not limited to :
” it appears that for some the jaw-dropping power of US Propaganda renders them more comatose and bereft of informed agency”
It is not your sister; it is you and your sister and your analogues.
A fantacist who believes he/she is an analyst/strategist who holds these truths to be self-evident and exceptional simultaneously, thereby facilitating the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America” and in parallel their demises.
Thank you for your service.
Really, the CIA headquarters and the City of London deserve some Kinzhals their way. They are the perpetrators of evil the world over.
It’s not unusual that aggressive groups of 3% of population can in right time capture the future of nation and “change history”. NSDAP was actually exceptional, with over 30% share of popular votes but even they never got near the majority. They too needed help from other parties to took power.
“They too needed help from other parties to took power.”
Numbers in representative democracy are not how to attain power since they are illustrations of minorities taking power.
The consideration is always – how to sustain the illusion?
One of the main modes the NSDAP followed to sustain the illusion was the ideological construct which did have some content, reducing from 1942 onwards was the Volksgemeineschaft, which pre and post dated the NSDAP since through practice this was realised to have the greatest utility in maintaining the illusions of we-are-all-in-this-togetherness, whose meanings and consequences mutated with greater velocity from February 1943 onwards, including for the self-misrepresented “allies” “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and the British Empire” and “The United States of America” which increased their levels of amalgamation during Anglo-American meetings of the “Imperial General Staff” held in London in March 1943.
The NSDAP were also opportunists deriving “benefits” from activities in which they had no agency – The Reichstag fire being one example of many – a practice continued by “The United States of America”.
Consequently some in Brooklyn created Superman characters and other comic books, whilst some in Washington and their associates, prepared new “alliances” which developed into “The United States of America”, “The European Union” and “NATO” to name a few – modes whose opportunities of facilitation are reducing with accelerated velocities as a function of increasing failure to sustain the illusions.
good but way more crucial here is how the CIA arms/mobilizes/steers the lvov-nazi rent-a-mob whenever somebody needs convincing about supporting the pro-western position du jour, i.e., intimidations of politicians, activists, etc. This includes intimidating the judiciary, the army, and the police, not last to force them to close their eyes to the actions of lvov-nazi gangs. It’s called low-intensity terror what lvov-nazis practice away from the donbas region. It’s a CIA tactic developed over decades starting with pinochet’s DINA/CNI.
Or was DINA/CNI modelled on Irgun as used by the Zionists in the formation of Israel?
The Russian incursion into the Ukraine is about much much more than to just take down some out-of-control Nazis. The evildoers of this world utilize Nazism as a tool to do their dirty work.
I percieve the Russians are out to cut the evildoers themselves down before the evilsdoers do the Russians in.
Any armchair general capable of striking a keyboard can see the Western Ukraine being a springboard for a short and fast right hook directly into Moscow.
There is obviously this out-of-hand reaction in the part of the world controled by the evildoers to what should have been a simple “pawn taking move” on the geo-political world chessboard. It is as if the evildoers are throwing a temper tantrum that their evil plans are being challenged.
I percieve it will be difficult to put the genie back into the bottle. The World is splitting into two politcal halfs both bent on taking out the other. Most unfortunate is that the even greater problems of the world, e.g. environmental climate change, difficult problems that require worldwide community effort, will remain unresolved eventually doing us all in.
Their larger problem is the one glove fits all policy and their interpretation of it.
Our case is iron clad, although theirs does have some teeth and a clean collar, the lost time bickering about it has consequences that do show over time.
“just take down some out-of-control Nazis.”
” The World is splitting into two politcal halfs both bent on taking out the other.”
As a function of your framing, likely derived from pre-masticated ideologies, your entry is skewed almost immediately you enter the portal.
The world is not splitting into two equal halves, or Bolsheviks and Mensheviks..
Present coercive social relations are being transcended by developing social relations based upon co-operation, whilst present coercive social relations attempt to frustrate the developing social relations based on co-operation by attempts at increasing coercion, thereby alienating some of their potential support and rendering some others even more comatose and conforming precluding innovation, whilst simultaneously increasing the agency, mutual co-operations and motivations of those engaged in the transcendence of coercive social relations.
As Mr. Heraclitus observed – You cannot step into the same river twice – no genie is going back into any bottle, although that is the hope of the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America” in their attempts at co-operation through coercion.
As Mr. Schrodinger “observed” : phenomena do not require to be perceived to exist.
Not to put too fine a point on it. but …
What exactly is it that you *disagree* with in the preceding quotes (and others you’ve seemingly lambasted)?
You appear to be intent only on launching condescending, pseudo-intellectual diatribes that have little relation to (and frequently misrepresent) the posts you purportedly find fault with.
Personally, I’m not impressed. Your “Tsk, tsk” loquaciousness hardly substitutes for solid argumentation.
Excellent article showing the spiders web of it all. Media liar Chuck Todd said the other day paraphrasing : You have to be able to discern between Putin’s “real evil” and the Ukrainian nazis “somewhat evil”. Yes, that’s how they’re making nazis acceptable now.
Nationalist does not necessarily equal extremist which does not necessarily equal Neo Nazi. Articles like this seem to make them synonymous .
– Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism
characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, …
… Opposed to Marxism
And what is Marxism?
– Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis that uses a materialist
interpretation of historical development, better known as historical materialism,
to understand class relations and social conflict as well as a dialectical
perspective to view social transformation.
– The Bolsheviks established the first socialist state based on the ideas of soviet
democracy and Leninism.
So we are to believe Marxism is sosiology while Fascism is not sosiology.
And Fascism is dictatorship, but not Leninism ??
” The Bolsheviks established the first socialist state based on the ideas of soviet
democracy and Leninism.”
That was the myth they and others tried/try to sell and spent years trying to sustain it for similar reasons – in the hope of conflating “socialism” with coercive social relations.
One of the ways used was invention of the notion of the cult of Marxism-Leninism in circa 1923 instead of Dialectical Historical Materialism of which Mr. Marx was one of many practitioners including Mr. Dietzgen and Mr. Guizot, with similar purpose of Mr. Marshall in 1890 published a book called Principles of Economics in attempts to over-write notions of Political Economy where people have agency.
As part of the ongoing process of the transcendence of “The Soviet” Progress Publishers began publishing a fully research version of the Collected Works of Marx and Lenin, since before then “The Short Course” containing some of the nonsense you and Wikipedia assert, was the textbook used in Soviet schools, colleges, Universities and even within the lower echelons of the communist party.
Soviet people lived most days in “The Soviet Union” and in varying but increasing measure were aware of the dissonances between their life experiences and the propoganda.
Some are of the view that the final feathers that broke the camel’s back were,
Chernobyl when the nomenklatura reserved almost all iodine tablets for themselves, did not cancel the May Day parades most importantly in Minsk and Kiev, reserved trains to transport their offspring and friends out of Belarus and Ukraine, subsequently even reducing the access to medical treatments and pensions to the firefighters and others involved in the initial clean-up – (why one of the initial strategies of the Russian Federation’s special operation was securing Chernobyl with the agreement and participation of Ukrainian forces who were guarding the facility),
Perestroika first and when it didn’t work, glasnost for afters, through which the people gained even more information on how they had been screwed for 70 years, and virtually simultaneously the anti-alcohol campaigns so the people had more sobriety to understand the products of glasnost.
“The Soviet Union” largely imploded because the narod/people would no longer participate in the illusions, despite Mr. Lenin positing in his assertions of 1903 published under the title “What is to be done”, that the narod/people are only capable of trade union conciousness, and as shown by the methods of agreeing the Constitution of the Russian Constitution, the increasing trend in the Russian Federation of developing modes of direct participation by the people.
In the context of NATO run Ukraine, these labels very much are synonymous. But I am fully convinced these sewer animals will be resoundingly defeated and destroyed by the Donbass troops, the Russian army, and the latter’s incredible Chechen volunteers in particular.
Moreover, it will be an interesting thing to watch the surviving Ukronazis “befriend” the Poles. Russophobia is great and glorious, sure, but not to the point of quenching old passions targeting other ‘undesirables’, mind you.
Nationalism is always bad, never confuse nationalism with patriotism.
Patriotism is good and nationalism is evil.
But ethnic nationalism is the worst out of the worst.
For example nationalism in a country like China, India , Iran, Spain, France Portugal, England or Russia is bad but it does not need to suppress others in order to exist.
Those countries have their history and they know who they are.
But ethnic nationalism in artificially created states like Germany or Ukraine bring to the genocide of the people who are different from those nationalistic idea.
Minorities and majorities will be annihilated to create a ethnic Ágata
i beg… to differ…
this again boils down to the understanding of fascicm. I have been lucky to be born in the northern relative calm of scandinavia, where most have forgotten the real meaning of life. zone A.
but i have travelled a little bit around, i remember standing in lahore before the great museum, looking at the great cannon zamzammah, talked about by no other than kipling. and even i, from the socialdemocratic protected velvety scandinavia understand that this… is bigger than myself. and that my friend cid, is an intuitive understanding of nationalism.
pakistan is by all western means a torn country, even the good man- the great chief general administrator musharraf admitted that the phonecall from langley said; you are with us, or we bomb you to the stone age.
this is not about pak, but nationalism. to be proud of your heritage is a good thing, and is the glue that holds all the shit together when the shit hits the fan. but when you look out from the great museum in lahore, way past the great cannon from history, all you see is rickshaws plastered with pictures of f-16 pilots with mustaches and brandon shades.
and that, is patriotism. that is the hallmark of facism. an overtly respect of uniforms, military and alike. when my rickshaw from the museum to gulberg have a superimposed image of a f16 plane up in full afterburner and a pilot with mustache and glasses, i do indeed look at fachistic tedencies.
i am borne in scandinavia. i can be proud of what we have made in our countries, and i am fully willing to defend it. aware of the great double morality at play, our coutries up here are good shit. but i am not ever arguing that ukraina is a natural part of viking scandinavia, even if the upstart of rus was done by scandinavian vikings. to even utter such stuff, would be taken as very… facistic….
one should be protective of the nation fortune have bourne you into, but be careful with the patriotism. as i see it, the westfaler treaty is the thing worth keeping. there are powers now, trying to null it- to their betterment.
Great piece. Thank you. What I see happening is a fake nationalism. The radicalized useful nazi idiots have been groomed by globalists (via their intel ops like CIA) to become the NWO’s version of nationalism, in which all the institutions are but soros-funded & directed franchises of globalism (i.e. all his fake anti-corruption/pro-democracy gov offices & NGOs). This serves for globalist-controlled/overseen fake nation like Ukraine to pick a war with Russia and, as a “freedom-loving underdog” (as media characterizes) engage the West in the war against big mean Russia while totally destabilizing the Western nations so that they too can be… Ukrained. Who is doing it? What is a nazi? I don’t 100% know per sae, but pattern recognition tells me that it’s the “name-stealers.” Aka, the AshkeNAZI Khazarian fake judaites who have a beef with all ethnicities but their own. Who believe in the supremacy of their tribe/race. And who impersonate everyone to create chaos & division. After all, Ukraine is Khazaria… and they have a long-standing bone to pick with Russia…
“AshkeNAZI Khazarian fake judaites who have a beef with all ethnicities but their own. Who believe in the supremacy of their tribe/race. And who impersonate everyone to create chaos & division. After all, Ukraine is Khazaria… and they have a long-standing bone to pick with Russia…”
The term is Loxism…
Z for Victory!
“Both the U.S and Europe only understand to some extent the considerable danger represented by violent extremism when is present in their countries. Yet, they shut their eyes to very same danger, amplified by a conflict, fostered with the connivance of authorities”. This is nonsense – no offence intended – The Afghan insurgency was established and promoted regardless of future consequences; ditto with the Caucasus Islamic rebellion and the aiding and abetting of the social and military nazi revolution in Ukraine, accelerated for the past eight years. The repeated assertion that the western elites are short sighted in these matters holds no water regarding history and present-day realities. They practice those criminal activities by proxies against Russia always and altogether with full knowledge of the nature of the monsters they create. If upheavals in the west are caused by the devils they engendered, that’s part of their agenda, as well. Is it not?
“A clear example of this influence happened in December 2021, when Zelensky appointed the Right Sector founder, Dmitro Yarosh, as advisor to the chief of the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces….”
Yarosh as UA zampolit. That probably did it.
The torture of Russian POWs going viral on Twitter accomplishes 3 things:
1) seriously erodes the multi-billion media PR effort to carefully craft a righteous Ukrainian image for the Western consumption
2) throws a big doodoo on US/NATO long-game effort: to undermine Putin at home and force a regime change in Russia. This will give Putin another bump in approval. Russians are, I don’t need to guess, pissed af.
3) undeniably proves that neither Kiev or Washington or Bruxelles or god knows who have any control over the war theater, troop operability, chain of command, etc. Ukrainian brass r brainless zombies but are not that stupid. This is every unit for themselves, total collapse. Ukraine’s end is near.
“There are just a handful of neo-Nazis / ultra-nationalists / extremists. Or, they’re only 0,005% of the military.”
That’s an understatement even for the American military!
If the American military is estimated at 3 million souls, and you take 0.005% of that, then that percentage would mean that there are only 150 neo-Nazis in that number. Anyone who’s ever actually met any of the 70,000 or so “Special Forces” would think that one could likely find 150 neo-Nazis in a single unit.
I found this on a site called “Defense Post”
“Evidence indicates that white supremacy in our ranks has risen over the past few years. Over one third (36 percent) of service members who responded to a 2019 Military Times survey reported evidence of white supremacist and racist ideologies in the military, up from 22 percent in 2018.
Respondents described specific manifestations of white supremacy such as racist language, swastikas drawn on service members’ cars, white supremacist-affiliated tattoos, and KKK paraphernalia.”
“White Supremacist and Racist Ideologies in the Military”
That article appears to be written after the US military command said that it is perfectly acceptable for US military personnel to be members of a neo-Nazi organization, as long as they did not ‘actively participate’.
There’s a lot of places and a lot of organizations that could use a good dose of ‘de-Nazification.’
Russia has been doing well militarily, but as most have noticed, they have done poorly in the propaganda/information war. I have heard from a few acquaintances of mine who live in the Ukraine (Ukrainians not Russians) and they tell me how according to their media they are winning and the country will soon be liberated. Now, I do not believe this, but the Russians need to be aware of this and take it into account once peace arrives. Why? Because when a country lies to its nationals to such an extent then there is the huge risk of what happened in Germany after WWI when everyone thought they were winning – until they lost. This gave rise to the “Stab in the Back” theory that was directly influential in the rise of Hitler. Russia, therefore, needs to find a way to dominate the information space of any post-war Ukraine (if it exists) to make sure the truth is told and no Ukrainian “stab in the back” theories emerge that will later come back to haunt them.
The whole point of Western media and Ukraine lying and saying they are winning is to gaslight a reason for a false flag chemical weapons setup likely in Kyiv. Note Biden already stating that American air force will be there when he went to Poland.
With psychotic trash such as the Ukronazis, plain material reality is a complete non-issue. By contrast, the reason why the fantasy of the Dolchstoß seemed credible in Germany after WW1 was because Imperial Germany had invaded each and every neighbouring enemy territory and, apart from the very first few weeks of the war (up to Tannenberg), hadn’t seen any invading armies on her soil. Presentday Ukraine is entirely different. And I am quite convinced that Putin, Shoygu, and Lavrov struck 404 with precisely this in mind. The Ukronazis are insane dregs,and incurably sick, but they won’t convince (even if they might try) their hapless compatriots that Ukraine was on the way of conquering Moscow but got betrayed by cowards in their midst.
Dmitro Kotsyubailo bragged about killing russian speaking children and feeding their bones to the dog. And that creature gets medal from hero of the West, oligarch Zelensky. Still I am not suprised, because his heroes from OUN-UPA were known by merciless hacking with axes and knives children into pieces or nailing their bodies to fences in front of the houses. That was happening to Poles and Ukrainians, who refused to follow Banderovites.
And now these “glorious heroes” like Kotsyubailo, spiritual successors of Bandera’s beasts, where trained, armed and unleashed by the West on Russian speaking people. It is clear that genocide is their trade. The only medicine to cure these sick beasts is a bullet or a nice tie around their necks.
I can’t even imagine, what horrible crimes will be unveiled, when Russia will finally clean the whole Donbass.
I just saw a video from Patrick Lancaster’s channel on Telegram from one Mariupol school’s basement, which was converted into the military storage. There was tortured and horribly disfigured body of a young women with swastika on her belly, which was drawn with her own blood. I don’t recommend to watch it to anyone, it is too horrific. Yea… this is what I was taking about. Pure bestiality of Banderovites. Crime, which cries loud to Heaven for justice for a victim. ;(
good but way more crucial 2014-2021 is how the CIA has kept arming/mobilizing/steering the lvov-nazi rent-a-mob so they act whenever somebody needs convincing about supporting the pro-western position du jour, e.g., when the US needs to intimidate politicians, activists, etc. This included intimidating the judiciary, army officers, and the police, not last to force them to close their eyes to the actions of the lvov-nazi gangs. What the lvov-nazis practice in UKR regions other than the donbas region is called low-intensity terror. It’s a CIA tactic for taming countries that the agency developed over decades, starting with pinochet’s DINA/CNI whose antics initially were creating too many PR problems to the US.
So that wolf lover was “just joking” to the journalists of New York Times about feeding child’s bones to his company’s pet. WOW. Such a nice hero there. True knight in shining armour on a white horse, moderate rebel.
We will see if he will still have mood for jokes under the rifles of the Russian military. Days of that Bandera “joker” and his bloodthirsty buddies are numbered anyway.
Israel times writes that Russians paid regular Ukrainians to paint nazi signs all over Ukraine. According to them Putin created nazis as a false pretext to invade. No words about Bandera as a national hero and no words about several thousands of hard core nazis. I guess Putin created them too… This is the ultimate propaganda. Israel revealed itself. Now I’m 100% certain that Israel created this whole mess.
Mod: links to news reports are always useful and benefit everyone.
Ukrainian oligarch Fuks allegedly forced by Russian “agents” so he had no choice. It’s clear what they are aiming at.
I think this a incursion fundamentally change relationship toward -I S R A E L…….
“The Ukrainian ultra-nationalists certainly pack a punch above their weight.”
Hasn’t this always been the way. Find the nastiest psycho-bullies in any given population, arm them to the teeth, convey immunity on to them, then sit back and watch them abuse and dominate those too busy trying to feed their kids.
Oh sure some one takes too big a slice of pie you throw them under the bus, sends a clear message to uppity maniacs and looks good back home, yeah fighting terrorism big time out here, protecting our profits, er your freedoms.
So basically protecting the rights of bullies to bully, same old same. Of course weakening society around the world and amassing huge fortunes for those supplying the weapons of a** corruption.
Probably just me, but I get the feeling that whoever pulls Zenlensky’s strings has had such a problem with these Ukrainian Nazi’s and even though he has funded these Nazi’s is done with them. I think he’s already traded with Putin that if Putin destroys these Nazi’s he’ll give Russia Crimea.
The Nazi’s are all in the front lines, the Ukrainian Military has already blown up 129 bridges which now have cut off their retreat back to Kiev. They are trapped, I wonder if they really understand what’s going on yet, when they do they’ll be more desperate to use civilians as shields. This is going to get nasty.
This seems like a set-up to me. Everybody a winner except the Ukrainian Nazi’s.
In case you had not noticed Russia already has Crimea. It got nasty in 2014 when people got incinerated in a building.
Its no surprise. The US has a long history of using fascists and neo-nazis,often in a nations military,police or right-wing elites and politicians. In many countries neo-nazi groups and terrorists have been funded and CIA organised to attack movements that challenge US hegemony or a particular nations inequality. The most often quoted example is the military coup against Allende in Chile but they have unleased the evil forces of fascism when they require it on numerous occasions. Nazis are the shock troops of US imperialism.
OSS/CIA/MI6 exfiltrated the UPA/OUN guys and ran them directly. Bandera was too nuts for the Americans, but the Brits accepted him (didn’t let him come to the UK though). US archives show that Lebed was on the payroll into the 90’s. The west loves a useful Nazi.
Just two reports from different German newspapers. The Frankfurter Allgemeine (faz) is Germany’s leading daily newspaper, translated by deepl.
SCANDAL OVER STEINMEIER CONCERT:
Ukraine’s ambassador: “No desire for culture”.
There has been a scandal in connection with a solidarity concert organized by German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier this Sunday in Berlin. The Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Andrij Melnyk, canceled his participation with harsh words. “Only Russian soloists, no Ukrainians,” Ambassador Melnyk tweeted on Sunday. “An affront. Sorry, I’ll stay away.” German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier and the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra had invited to the concert to “send a joint signal against the criminal Russian war against Ukraine,” according to the Office of the Federal President.
It went on to say on Twitter addressed to the ambassador: “We regret your cancellation of our invitation to the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra’s solidarity concert for Ukraine. All the more so because Ukrainian, German, Russian, Belarusian and other musicians will perform together.”…
According to the Office of the Federal President, musicians from Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and Germany, among others, played pieces by Ukrainian, Russian and Polish composers under the direction of conductor Nodoka Okisawai. According to the orchestra, the Russian-born chief conductor Kirill Petrenko had cancelled at short notice due to illness.
The Federal President opened the event by video, as he is still in Corona quarantine. At the beginning and at the end of the concert, the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra played one piece each by the Ukrainian composer Valentin Silvestrov. In addition, Russian pianist Yevgeny Kissin played a polonaise by Frédéric Chopin and, together with members of the Berliner Philharmoniker, two movements from a piano trio by Dmitri Shostakovich. The Russian baritone Rodion Pogossov sang the aria of Prince Yeletsky from Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky’s opera “Queen of Spades”.
Ukraine-Botschafter sagt Benefizkonzert bei Steinmeier ab (faz.net)
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Ukrainian Ambassador Andriy Melnyk supports ultra-right Azov regiment
Melnyk, who became ambassador in 2014 and before that served as Ukraine’s consul general in Hamburg, is not without political controversy. In 2015, for example, he aroused the displeasure of the Bundestag when he publicized on Twitter his visit to the grave of partisan leader and Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera in Munich. Bandera, whom Melnyk called “our hero,” was a politician for the Ukrainian nationalists OUN, collaborated with the Wehrmacht during World War II and is predominantly considered a war criminal. The grave visit was also a topic in the Bundestag, which is why, according to the minutes of the meeting, SPD Secretary of State Michael Roth classified the action as follows: “The German government is aware of a tweet by the Ukrainian ambassador in which he reports on his visit to Bandera’s grave. The Ukrainian ambassador is sufficiently aware of our position on this. The German Government condemns the crimes committed by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, OUN, partly under Bandera’s leadership, against Polish, Jewish and Ukrainian civilians and officials. In doing so, it is aware that a significant proportion of these crimes were committed in collaboration with German occupation forces.”
Ukraine war: Ambassador Andrij Melnyk attracts attention with comparison to Nazism
In January 2022, Melnyk also attracted attention with a Nazi comparison, with remarks by former Navy Inspector Kay-Achim Schönbach providing the occasion. The had caused outrage in a briefing on the Ukraine war circulated on Twitter when he expressed understanding for Vladimir Putin’s stance. The Kremlin leader, Schönbach was quoted as saying, really just wants respect: “He wants respect. And – my God – giving someone respect costs little, costs nothing.” He further articulated that Crimea is “gone,” and “it will not come back, that’s a fact.”
Ukrainischer Botschafter Andrij Melnyk unterstützt ultrarechtes Asow-Regiment (fr.de)
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Avanti popolo Russian people
Russians With Attitude
Ukrainian Presidential adviser Arestovych commented on the video showing Ukrainians shoot Russian POWs, stating that he harshly condemns such behavior, that Ukraine “doesn’t abuse prisoners because it’s a European country” & the events on the video “look like a war crime”.
Patrick Lancaster wrote the following on Telegram yesterday
Today Colonel Cassad shared photos from the scene. (More)
The body of a young woman lies on the floor with her hands tied behind her back, half naked and covered by rags or blankets. A plastic bag has been tied over her head. A large swastika has been burnt on the skin of her stomach with hot irons, evidently while she was still alive.
Patrick Lancaster has now uploaded a 9 minute video from the site, a school used as an Azov (officially “National Guard”) base.
Of course the response from the West to this horror will be the Russians did it.
creativedestructionmediadotcom also has a new article..
Unmasking Zelensky ordering Anonymous to attack Switzerland..also lotsa info on the Antifa Greens nexus
Thanks for this great article which refutes the mainstream Western narrative that are “only a few” Nazis in Ukraine.
On twitter there are many pictures of Ukrainian soldiers, (often carefully stage managed, helping refugees etc)
On every single photo I have seen, Ukrainian soldiers have Black Sun and Iron Cross / Azov insignia. It is not normal for everyday military to be openly wearing these Nazi satanic symbols.
Now with the torture videos making the rounds how soon before people in the West start connecting the dots..?
for a year now we have had hundreds of videos of tv talking heads and athletes dropping with heart issues, hundreds of reports of well known people dying suddenly with clots/stokes/etc; the mindless masses haven’t connected those dots….
Dots????? Overpopulated, haven’t you heard?
I found it abhorrent that corridors were opened by the Russian military for citzens to leave the war zones yet Zelensky stated that the Russians blocked all corridors.
The Americans who handle Zelensky are the oppressors, inverting and twisting reality. Easy for the Americans to fight when they have proxies to do the fighting and their media lackeys to fool the masses.
Here is what Zelensky thinks of the neo-Nazis in Mariupol:
“I’ve talked to the defenders of Mariupol today. I’m in constant contact with them. Their determination, heroism and firmness are astonishing,” Zelenskyy said referring to the besieged southern port city. “If only those who have been thinking for 31 days on how to hand over dozens of jets and tanks had 1% of their courage.”
It ain’t courage – it’s fear of the fact that if they’re caught by the Chechens, they get the same treatment they’re meting out to others.
The Azov thugs are into heavy drug use:
A good blog:
I keep wondering why Langley wanted exactly what is happening right now to happen for the last ten years.
If the Potomac Empire is actually losing, then why is everyone still doing what they want all the time?
How many neo-cons does it take to run America?
The Ukrainians I think do not realise in their desire for nationalism they are being used by the EU US Soros etc… for another agenda that will enslave or destroy them in the end too.
“for another agenda that will enslave or destroy them in the end too.”
That is not restricted to Ukraine – but the choice faced by all with limited time to self-indulgently ponder:
To be or not to be
That is the question
To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end (transcend) them..
That is the likely outcome for all remaining within the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America” implemented by the coercive social relations self-misrepresented as “The United States of America”, not the Russian Federation and its associates – an illustration of why Mr. Tsun Tsu is being transcended.
Mr. Berezhovsky attempted to emulate a Roman Emperor by commiting suicide in his warm bath, where as the suicide of others will likely be less comfortable.
What would happen to the Nazis who are young, captured and high on drugs?
It seems that a lot of them are abusing substances.
Will the Russian military trial them or terminate them?
Of course wearing Nazi tattoos gives their game away so I am not referring to these examples of human filth.
Russia needs to immediately send in a company of special forces to hunt down those UKN Nazis who abused the Russian prisoners. On a search and destroy mission.
And if they cannot be found, if there is a ceasefire in the war negotiated with Z then they must be handed over as part of the terms.
Nat: Excellent coverage there. And pretty exhaustive, though as you say, not comprehensive.
The mere fact that this litany of evils represents just the “tip of the iceberg” indicates how very bad things are in Ukraine — and NOT because of the Russian operation. Every day I read something that further impresses upon me how despicable those Nazis (and their proponents in the West) truly are.
> This is the same Interior minister who said in 2014, “to promise the Russians anything, and then hang them after the victory”.
That was some Kolomoisky’s wingman in Dnepropetrovsk, i think Boris Fliatov but not sure.