Comment: to those of you who wonder where I get this fantastic art from, it is my honor and pleasure to announce that the Basque artist Josetxo Ezcurra has agreed to become a collaborator to the Saker Blog. Check out his gallery here: http://www.tlaxcala-int.org/
Yes, I am one lucky dude :-)
Does that silence include Russia too?
You deserve it Saker
I am seeing mention of your blog daily on other sites I read. Why can’t you be a guest on Democracy Now or Cross Talk
Ezkerrik asko, Josetxo, etortzeagatik!
Ongi etorri Sakeren blogera.
Egiten dituzuen kartelak asko gustatzen zaizkit. Segitu horrela.
Gora Novorrosiyako jendea!
Askatasuna eta independentzia lortuko duzue!
Jo ta ke irabazi arte!
A bit of a stickler today, but in the sub-header drop the plural ‘s’ in evidences, because it needlessly distracts from the real message.
No matter what Mr. Putin does [or doesn’t do], he’ll be at the receiving end of the west’s moral punitive brigades’ wrath, but fortunately his judo side prevails.
A real winner doesn’t score because of points, but because of ippon and that’s where Mr. Putin comes in.
This picture is not only worth a thousand words, it says everything that needs to be said about the man.
Thank you very much, and welcome here! I can’t wait to see what else you’ve got in store. ;~)
MH17 . . . Silence of the LIARS bit.ly/1CPmC9U A picture is worth 10,000 diatribes; A deafening silence is worth a listen . . .
New Zealand’s 3News following the Piper’s Spin not the Facts ……..The Fact …. “”The damage to the Boeing 777 forward fuselage and cockpit section appears to “indicate that there were impacts from a large number of high-energy objects from outside”. The observation was made based on pictures taken of parts of the wreckage which shows “multiple holes and indentations”.”” …. But wait !!!!! now for the incredibly obvious Doublespeak Spin, not in the report !!!! ………”supporting the claim that the plane was shot down by pro Russian rebels”…… When in fact this is exactly the evidence that supports the fact that MH17 was shot down not buy a buk missile but the 30mm cannon fire “see photos” (large number of high-energy objects from outside) of the Ukrainian jet fighters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …. http://www.3news.co.nz/world/europeunitedkingdom/mh17-rebels-continue-to-deny-downing#ixzz3Crhh1VLW
Washington Post on Putin’s approval ratings:
“…Putin rising support even among those who had previously opposed him. While Putin’s supporters are often portrayed in media and scholarly work as lumpen, our research shows that, for now at least, this is far from the truth.”
Elsi 09 September, 2014 23:23
“Ezkerrik asko, Josetxo, etortzeagatik! [… ]”
Dear Elsi, I like your posts, we are on the same side, and I can to some extent understand Spanish, it is close to new latin, but this I do not understand. Please provide a translation.
@Anonymous:Please provide a translation.
Why? We don’t provide any translations into Basque of our posts in English, why should they provide a translation of their posts into English? :-P
Google translate gives me this:
Thank you, Josetxo, for coming!
Welcome to the blog clearance.
I like a lot of posters you do. So on.
Novorrosiyako up people!
You get the freedom and independence!
Jo ta ke to win!
Besides, what an amazing language!! I speak five languages (Russian, English, French, Spanish and German) and understand a few more (Portuguese, Dutch, Italian, and most Slavic languages) but in Basque all I could understand was “Sakeren blogera” and “arte”. This is mighty cool stuff, totally different from French or Spanish (both of which I am fluent in!). Catalan, for example, is easy to understand if you now Spanish and/or French, it’s similar to Provencal. But Basque is just so unique and different. I love it and I am delighted to see it on this blog :-)
Does anyone know if anyone in the Ukraine will go to Kiev and get those oligarch bastards by force? Are they untouchables because they are buddies with Russian oligarchs? I thought Putin booted most of the zio-oligarchs out of Russia. Is Putin in charge or are others really in charge.
Until these Zio oligarch ***kers are rooted out then there is no peace. There is no pupose in the “peasants” killing each others when they are pawns for this oligarch scum. Russians and Ukrinians know chess. Stop being puppets – get the ***king oligarchs!
The BBC pulled this broadcast in total panic when they realised the evidence of the eye witnesses did not correspond to the narrative the US & their NATO allies wanted to convey, many witnesses verified there were 2 Ukraine SU25 very close to the downed MH17, their presence was also confirmed by Russian satellite images provided by their air ministry. The US has thus so far refused to disclose their satellite images instead relying on YouTube videos provided by Ukraine secret Police which have subsequently been proven to be faked. This raise the very strong suspicion that MH17 was a staged false flag attack.
Furthermore, the Ukraine/US version of events is totally implausible, the BUK missile system is not simply a standalone launcher on a truck, it can only be deployed as part of an integrated system comprising of a number of sophisticated radar units
It also require up to 20 specialised men with dedicated training to operate it, which the separatists simply do not have. Though the Seps admit they have a BUK launcher which they captured from the Ukr Army but it was not operable, there was several parts damaged on it.
Notice that the Report issued by the Dutch does not say anything about missiles. “High energy objects” (lol). The report does not suggest that: “The findings are consistent with the government’s statement that MH17 was shot down by a large surface-to-air missile”. But BBC knows better:
“Crash investigators are unlikely to identify the source of the “high-energy objects” that downed the plane.
However on Monday the BBC’s Panorama program quoted eyewitnesses saying they saw Russians operating a BUK missile launcher in the area where MH17 was shot down.
The loudspeaker for BBC Down Under, “The Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, welcomed the findings”, outdoing even the cowed Malaysian officials.
We already knew they will never tell the truth when we saw the bullet holes in the cockpit and after the agreement that ukraine needs to agree to release any info, I think it is definite that the fox wont easily tell the entire world he eat all the chickens. Still sad that 300 people got killed for the empire. But they wont be the last.
Actually there has been a climb down by the press. We have gone from plain stating it was shot down by a rebel BUK to (in most cases, like say the British Daily Telegraph) saying the evidence supports the suspicion it was a BUK.
The odd thing here is that the change has happened with not a work about i being written in the newspapers or mentioned on TV. Only if you read the comments pages can you see why the change in tone has occurred. -And who reads those – they are just for writing in :)
Silence in this case is by itself incriminating Ukraine.
Concocting credible “evidence” to the contrary – the one that wouldn’t fall apart at first examination – was apparently so difficult that even after weeks of trying nothing could be done.
One thing we can be sure about – they made every attempt at cooking it up.
The newly found shyness of Empire’s paid liars is a huge progress on its own.
It seems that somebody or some organisation wants this catastrophe to remain as a kind of Rorscharch (?) test and to suppress any clinching evidence of who did what for ever.
The report released yesterday tells us nothing that wasn’t already known – the plane had holes blown into the cockpit. This evidence is consistent with it either being shot down by a plane or being hit by a missile’s contents which, as we know, explode near their targets spewing out high velocity projectiles.
I have seen it written that a German specialist speculated that the damage inflicted on the cockpit was consistent with canon fire from a jet fighter – reputedly an Su-25. Now I am no expert on aviation matters by a long way, but the apparent altitude ceiling of an Su-25 is about 22000 feet – well below the 30k feet at which the unfortunate airliner was cruising.
Of course, the Ukies are practically suicidal with their own troops and presumably also with their pilots so it is possible that Kiev ordered the pilot to increase height and attack the plane and that the Su25’s structural integrity remained intact during the firing.
On the other hand, it could well have been a terrible error on someone else’s part or a calculated act of unimaginable savegry on someone else’s, with some ground to air missile system. It is this point everyone wants to know, of course.
The balance of probabilities, IMEHO, is that the aircraft was shot down in error and there are people deep in the decision process and higher ups that do not want the truth exposed. Either the missile was fired by the freedom fighters (and there are ‘agents’ in the loop who want this buried for fear of what the crazies in Washington will do with it) or it was Kiev. Or it was some outlying set of circumstances that will surprise everyone.
You know I wish I had some new info but I don’t…When the revolution eventually does happen maybe we’ll uncover the truth of a lot of damned things.
Alien Tech, the Forces of Evil are still lying about the Syrian gas attacks, Iran’s non-existent nuclear weapons program, KAL 007, the Iranian air-bus shot down by the USS Vincennes, Lockerbie and on and on it goes. They will lie about MH17 until their dying breath.
Just a heads up: unfortunately the tlaxcala site is not easy to navigate, and I had more success seeing Josetxo work doing a google image search for his name. Bloody good, congrats to both of ya!
I’m afraid this (the silence) is also why our Dutch PM insists that the investigation committee who issued their preliminary report needs TIME… so they can ” come up with conclusions that cannot be disputed by anyone”.
Since you understand Dutch, Saker, you might be interested to see this:
Starting at 3 mins, and then at 12 mins. The ” separatist leaders” interviewed at around 27 mins are shown but won’t be taken seriously by people here, after all “they cannot be trusted – CLEARLY!”.
In the Netherlands the American story is believed without question by nearly everyone, it’s shocking and very scary. And nobody picks up on the continuous stream of media manipulations at all, no matter how in-the-face they are.
Anonymous said…10 September, 2014 01:10,
Sorry for not translating. It was a quick message to Josetxo especially because I was really excited because I think we’re the only ones Basques here.
It was late yesterday when I posted here on the 1:30 a.m., and I am preparing my trip and do not have much time to read or post.
In any case, Saker has done very well, more or less. Thanks a lot, Saker.
Here the translation:
“Josetxo thank you very much for coming.
Welcome to the blog of The Saker. (Sakeren = Saker’s).
I love the posters you do.
Up, people of Novorossiya!
You will get freedom and independence!
Go on to win!”
As with the Russian, some things are hard to translate.
“Jo ta ke irabazi arte” has become a slogan on independence demonstrations and also yet in any demonstration of workers for their rights.
Would be more or less: Hard with the enemy relentlessly until win!
Novorrossya guys, remain united, please, fighting for the common goal. We do not leave you alone until you attain your fair targets!
In the coming days, I hope, will arrive the Basque Caravan with the Bassotti Band. They are already reporting on public Basque radio channel (Basque Government, now Conservative) and increasingly you will be more visible. More caravans will arrive until everyone knows what is happening in your land.
I leave a link to an interview in program “Boulevard” by Radio Euskadi (large audience) with Ibai, from Euskal Herria / Donbass committee, going there with the caravan. Hope you cheer up!
To return, God willing.
Arrogant guy, traitor and vain.
Curious that one day after the release of the Dutch report on MH17 the BBC’S page at http://www.bbc.com/news has NO mention of MH17 except for a link to a BBC page in Indonesian. Apparently the BBC has already consigned the Dutch report to the memory hole.
The Dutch report is obviously a cover-up. It says that MH17 went down as a result of “impacts from a large number of high-energy objects from outside”. But we all knew that already. The report was supposed to be about what the black boxes revealed, but it seems they revealed nothing. Oh? Nothing at all? Well, just the usual, nothing worth mentioning really.
For a discussion of the possibility that MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian Air Force MiG-29 flown by a Polish pilot trained by the Israelis see here.
@Mohamet – I think you’ve made the ‘cahoots’ point often enough; I don’t find it convincing, and your insistence seems to land you in the Trondheim (troll territory), does it not? Your evidence doesn’t seem to be ‘mounting’…
On Russian silence. I think you are a close reader of this blog. One post, I think, got it right some time ago, saying the Russians could claim what they like but what they say would generally be received as mere propaganda.
I think these two points exhaustively answer your queries.
on the subject of MH17 on tuesday night.
bbc radio 5 live which is great at night after midnight that is.
full of cfr,chatham house,brookings
neo con zio con city.
anyway they had a chap from newcastle who’s son had died on the shot down plane.
the dad stated it is not important who did this,it is important lessons are learned and that the families need to move on.
how very mi5 odd not important how or why a plane was taken down.
It is curious how there was such an initial lack of concern over chain of custody of the black box. Since its contents would likely expose someone connected to the Kiev regime as perpetrators, why was this most critical evidence handed over by those who claim to be falsely accused to those they claim to be guilty (or their agents)? Without insisting on a credible and impartial chain of custody (a procedure essential to any criminal investigation), control of the black box – as well as disclosure of the information contained therein – was wholly ceded to an agent of the guilty in Malaysia, even though Russia was originally set to receive it. Such blind faith in the process that agents of the guilty will truthfully and timely disclose evidence of their masters’ crimes is not only unwarranted, it is nonsensical. See for example, the Non-Discosure Agreement among the Ukraine, Dutch, Australia and Belgium. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-causes-of-the-mh17-crash-are-classified-ukraine-netherlands-australia-belgium-signed-a-non-disclosure-agreement/5397194
The following timeline from right after the shoot down comes from the RT thread. Since it takes some patience to scroll thru, the dates and times are listed if one wants to search within this thread:
(1) [7/18] 18:02 GMT The self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, which controls the area around the crash site, says that it will pass the flight recorders of the downed plane to Russian authorities “In Moscow, they have high-class experts, and they will be able to determine the cause of the crash, though it seems obvious enough anyway.”
(2) [7/20] 01:29 GMT – Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib Razak said that flight MH17 black boxes are a property of Malaysia. “Those who have no rights whatsoever cannot claim or take control of the black boxes,” he said.
(3) [7/21] 22:41 GMT – The Ukrainian militia have handed over to Malaysian experts the black boxes from the crashed Boeing-777 airliner.
(4) [7/22] 10:27 GMT – Malaysia said on Tuesday it will keep hold of the black boxes voice and data recorders from downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 until an international team is formed and will then hand them over.
“The Malaysian team has taken custody of the black boxes, which appear to be in good condition. They will be held securely in Malaysian custody while the international investigation team is being formalised,” Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said in a statement. “At that time, we will pass the black boxes to the international investigation team for further analysis.”
Serendipidy – excellent post. Nice one