by Ghassan Kadi for The Saker Blog
The tragic news of terrorism in New Zealand highlights the failure of Western governments in dealing with it.
In its policy of denial of addressing ISIS-like activities in the West, Western governments have inadvertently given ultra-right wing elitist Fascists the green light to take the law in their own hands to “avenge” the terrorism of Salafist/Wahhabi/Jihadi terrorists on innocent Westerners thereby driving them to kill innocent Muslims.
It is hard to think of a policy that is more antithetical than the manner in which the West deals with the so-called “Islamic terrorism”.
On one hand, at least as far as the Western media outlets are concerned, the West is duly adamant in its “war on terror”, all the while feeding it from the other hand. The topic has been so widely addressed and proven beyond any reasonable doubt, and there is no need to even try to provide more evidence that Western policies have capitalized on Wahhabi doctrines and nurtured and facilitated the emergence of Al-Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East, all the while it is trying to control followers of the suicidal devotees at home, ie in the West.
The recent terror attacks in Europe over the last 3-4 years are a gruesome testimony, and the failure of Western governments in dealing with those serious massacres left many Europeans not knowing how to deal with them other than in one of two manners, either by shifting their votes towards ultra-right wing parties, or taking the law in their own hands.
In saying this, we must keep in mind that at least some massacres that recently happened in the West had the fingerprints of ISIS, but were not pronounced as such. The infamous Las Vegas massacre stands out like a sore thumb. As a matter of fact, ISIS did “claim responsibility” for the attack, but the claim was played down by the media and by the Trump Administration as well as the highly-charged Democrats digging extremely deeply in dirt and sniffing with radio-telescope-sized nostrils, desperately trying to find anything against Trump, including hiring highly-imaginative fiction script writers who are capable of writing a story, any story, upon which they can impeach President Trump.
The truth of the matter is that when it comes to ISIS attacks on the West that highlight the inabilities of Western governments to curb it, both the American Democrats and Republicans have an unwritten agreement of bipartisan inaptitude-based silence.
But the infamous November 2015 Bastille Day attack in Nice, the London Bridge and Manchester attack, the Munich attack, just to name a few, were undeniably ISIS-inspired attacks. And what did the governments of France, the UK, and Germany do in way of preventing such further attacks? Nothing much that would give Western residents enough feeling of security.
Fear breeds insecurity and insecurity breeds radicalism, violence and counter violence.
When the West under the presidency of Jimmy Carter and advice of Zbigniew Brzezinski decided to turn on the Afghani Mujahideen, in their shortsightedness, not realizing that they were opening a Pandora’s box that is far bigger than they could even imagine, in their second-tier failure, and without giving a second thought as to whether or not they monster they were awakening/creating was going to chase them home, they are now facing not only the Jihadi monster that they cannot switch off, but also a domestic ultra-right one that is potentially capable to inflict much more harm to the democratic fabric of Western society.
Shifting blame does not solve problems, but in between the supposedly developed and rational West and the Middle East that is still by-and-large stuck in medieval ideologies, there is logically a bigger onus on the West to be the “wise guy”, but it has proven to be anything but.
New Zealand does not deserve any of this violence. New Zealand is a nation with a predominantly Western culture, but it is also one that endorses its indigenous Maori culture. It has a very compassionate refugee policy, and ever since its former late Prime Minister David Lange made a stand against nuclear US Navy vessels docking in his country in the 1980’s, New Zealand has taken many steps that clearly position itself as the Switzerland of the South Pacific. And this is perhaps why Brenton Tarrant chose New Zealand as his theatre of action. In fact, he did say that he chose the most unlikely place on earth in order to prove that no place is safe for the “invaders”.
Terrorists of all flavours and descriptions, and there is no philosophical difference between them at all, seem to be embarking on a highly dangerous path of proving their worth by planning and perpetrating unprecedented acts of terrorism. They see such acts like sportsmen and woman see sporting achievement records, and every achiever tries to break records.
Some sanity has to prevail to stop this vicious cycle of positive feedback of violence.
Thank you for your article Mr Kadi.
It is high time to denounce all forms of terrorism, be them from Muslims, Jews, or Christians. Part of this process is calling a spade a spade. And this is precisely where the media, including many “alt” media, falls flat.
The media has once again proven Glenn Greenwald’s definition of “terrorism”: violence done by the ‘other’ against ‘us’; it is never violence ‘we’ do to the ‘other’. Media still report this terror attack as “shooting” or “incident”. Even RT, which never hesitates to breathlessly call attacks on Israeli occupation soldiers as “terrorism” (attacks on occupational forces being legal under international law), terms it “mosque shootings” “mosque attacks”. If these had been churches where people were slaughtered, it would have been “terrorism” even before the perpetrator was identified. Absolutely sickening. If humanity is to rise above the scourge of killing innocents for political purposes, we have to paint ourselves with the same brush we paint others.
Actually, according to Talmudic Judaism, killing civilians is not just permissible, but is, in fact, a mitzvot, or good deed. The Wahabist psychopaths follow a similar doctrine, as do those ‘Christians’ who are positively salivating for the End Times when everyone not like themselves, including the Jews that they pretend to love, will be exterminated in the foulest way their sick minds can imagine, then blame ‘God’ for.
The Jehovah Witness crowd were out in force in Godzone this fine morning.
that kind of psychopathic philosophy is nicely explained in this great little book:
It never ceases to amaze me that the sheer xenophobic hatred that drives ideologies like Talmudic Judaism, Wahhabism, Christian End Times fundamentalisms, Hindutva fascism etc, plus the neo-feudal omnicide cult of ‘Free Market Absolutist’ capitalism, is NEVER honestly outlined in the public discourse in the laughingly misnamed ‘Free World’, let alone discussed and criticised. The moanings about the recent rise in partisanship and internecine hatreds throughout the West, and the rest of the world, are staggeringly hypocritical and diversionary, when the roots of these hatreds are as ancient as ‘civilization’ itself. Not only that, but beneficent actions, like supporting the Palestinians in their unending agony, are attacked with literally insane, hate-driven, ferocity and it is the haters, not the proponents of amity and peaceful co-existence who are supported, with servile enthusiasm, by the morally insane monsters of Western politics and the fakestream media sewer.
Not to mention the Communist supremacist ideology as personified by the Maoism and Han nationalism,
Truth is stranger than fiction: the terrorist and coward tarrant stated the following:
“The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.”
Because he considers China an ethnonationalist state which also embraces his views on economics such as the using the State to keep capitalism, the oligarchs and the corporate sector’s power over society in check.
Having just read this terrorist’s manifesto I do admit that it is quite “artificial” and “constructed”: the prose is too advanced for a low IQ idiot like tarrant. However, the above quoted line does contain a common theme amongst white nationalists.
Of course a psy-ops mission like this needs a phony ‘Manic-festo’, and who better to smear by mention that the Chinese Yellow Peril.
Yes mulga, but it does not change the fact that white inferiorists (aka slow-witted insecure cowards) nationalists regularly express admiration for the totalitarian PRC which is appears to emphasize the penchant of han cultural supremacy in China.
If indeed the manifesto was written by intelligence operatives as you contend, it would make sense for them to use actual material and views from insecure, dumb and cowardly white nationalist sources (to keep up the charade according to your conspiracy reasoning, so to speak).
Mulga, here — https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/03/16/intel-drop-shooting-real-shooter-fake-jewish-born-freemason-like-brevik/
robin, forgive me, but, how can I put it? I doubt Veterans Today’s bona fides, I fear.
The oxford dictionary defines terrorism as: n. Systematic intimidation as a method of governing or securing political or other ends. It has nothing to do with religion per se, but everything to do with total domination by the ‘few’.
So the oxford dictionary is accusing the standard modus operandi of the US “justice” system of terrorism? Wow!
I mean that definition can be used to describe most world elites. Doesn’t anyone see the irony here?
Every act of terrorism that has come close to effecting me and my life has been committed by Christians.
I lived in Atlanta during the Olympics there. I enjoy music, so I was loving the free music in the Olympic Park at nights. One nite I was leaning against a bronze statue resting my weary legs while listening to beautiful music. IIRC, it was Carlos Santana working his magic upon a guitar.
The next nite, a fanatical Christian terrorist set of a bomb full of nails next to that statue. The classic image of that terrorist attack is of the scars left upon that bronze statue by the nails in the bomb. That was exactly where I’d been standing, 24 hours earlier. Of the four coordinates of space and time, the Christian terrorist scored a direct hit on three of them and only narrowly missed me on the fourth. There didn’t seem to be a reason that the Christian terrorist picked his particular night. If he’d chosen the night before, I would now know for certain if there really is a Heaven.
The terrorist was named Eric Rudolph. He was a fanatic, radicalized Christian terrorist who was upset that women can be allowed to make medical decisions about their own body. He was part of a fanatical Christian terrorist movement that has also tried to kill, and at times succeeded in killing doctors.
Eric Rudolph set off other bombs in the Atlanta area. In both occasions, these bombs were both in locations that I recognized from the news and knew that at times in the past I had stood at exactly that spot. But fortunately, I he missed me by more than 24 hours on those occasions.
I left Atlanta, and moved away from that city of hate to the Rocky Mountains. And another terrorist decided to attack near me again. Again he was a radical Christian terrorist. This time this terrorist didn’t hit a spot where I had stood, but instead attacked an abortion clinic just down the road from me in Colorado Springs. Politicians had a very hard time uttering the word “terrorism” with that attack.
For all of the hype about Muslim terrorists, it is 4 for 4 that the terrorist attacks that have come close to killing me have all been conducted by radical Christians. Thus, I agree that we must denounce all forms of terrorism by whoever. My position is that I am against killing people.
The strange thing is that the God of the Old Testament said “Thou Shall Not Kill!” Four simple, one syllable words, and yet human beings have such a hard time grasping that message. The Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of God, and he was even more emphatic and direct about his message of Peace and Love. I am no expert, but I believe the Muslims regard Jesus as an honored prophet sent from God. And yet, all of these religions keep trying to kill people. Since I live in a majority Christian land, it is the Christians who have been trying to kill me all of my life.
I saw a quote from someone who survived this latest terror attack. They said “They only see religion. They don’t see people.” And the truly bizarre thing is that these religions are based on seeing the person and treating the person with Peace and Love as fellow child of God.
Most terrorism is Operation Gladio, the little drummer girl. It is a game to get us focus on demonizing little people. Patsies are chosen as needed for the narrative of the time. Israel is bombing Gaza. This looks like a tactic to hide what Israel is doing. On 7/7/14 – Plane goes down in Ukraine, Israel invades Gaza and a black man is shot by police in NYC. Two events to hide what Israel is doing. The focus on the actions of little people is stupid. We should focus on what the biggies are doing. Mad Albright said 500000 Iraq children dying is OK. Wesley Clark saw a Pentagon memo that stated that the US wants to destroy seven nations for the nine eleven false flag. He named the nations. Six have already been attacked. Iran is the only one not yet attacked. So all the “chatter” among the real doers of nine eleven to get Iran. Nine eleven wasn’t done by Muslims. It was a US/Israel/Britain thing. Our media is at fault for creating Islamophobia by pushing the Santa Claus like nine eleven story line that cave dwelling Muslims did nine eleven. I do not follow any false flags done by little people. It is a game for us to demonize little people who “must” be demonized by our “free” press in the US/Israel world – the patsies du jour.
I agree. Would you expand on how you see Britain’s role in 9/11. Do you mean direct involvement in the attack or just how they later supported the ‘retribution’.
I know for sure that the US and Israel did it. Christopher Bollyn, Laurent Guyenot, and NIcole Guihaume go in details about it. The only reason I added Britain is that the BBC knew that Tower Seven was going down before it did. Therefore, some people at the top in Britain knew about. I haven’t read anything about how Britain helped or who knew in Britain though. So the British input is still a mystery. At least at BBC, they have prior knowledge.
The West’s Merchants of Mayhem’s [MOM] resources are almost unlimited as is their recruitment drive.
Their global agenda is monumental and fosters division, terrorism, and perpetual war based on race, religion, country of origin, distribution of resources and anything else they can use to their advantage.
Their assets include the global war machine, the mainstream media, many key western politicians and now much of Mainstreet as well. The man in the street can play an important role as brainwashed, propagandized but nevertheless useful idiots. There is a worldwide resource of potentially extremist morons waiting in the wings and able to commit horrendous atrocities such as what has just occurred in NZ.
The central main character of MOM is of course the US and for three very salient reasons;
#1 An obscenely large military industrial complex
#2 Historically [sinceWW2] an overwhelming dominance in reserve currency status…which in essence finances MOM
#3 The very structure of the political system which enables Government to be made up of the best politicians that money can buy. The majority of the decision makers are installed, bought and paid for by MOM. They have no allegiance whatsoever to Mainstreet nor indeed to their country.
There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that at least four countries had extensive prior knowledge of the 9/11 attack and these, of course, include the US and its most consistent partners in crime UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. The BBC were so keen to beat their competitors in the reporting of the collapse of Building 7 that they even reported it 23 mins before it actually occurred. As the ‘talking head’ event was televised the building was filmed still standing behind the woman that reported the collapse!
Of course in little old NZ, we were not even made aware that this building had collapsed. It was clearly an inside demolition job and as such very awkward to explain. There was only minor superficial damage to the building from flying debris…it was NOT hit by any aircraft. The truly horrifying fact in all of this is that when there is not enough spontaneous terror and mayhem occurring, then some Western countries will even stoop to create their own terror events in order to keep the fires of hate burning. A few thousand innocent victims are just viewed as expedable collateral within their agenda This is not a new phenomenon either…just google “Operation Gladio” to see what went on in Europe to dramatise the threat of communism.
The latest tragedy in NZ is proof positive that MOM’s agenda of perpetual terrorism is alive and flourishing globally. Their recruitment drive is as successful as it is monumental. As valuable as the traditional threats of communism and Russia etc, have been to MOM, terrorism is the trump card in their hand. This one comprehensively transcends the boundaries of geography race and religion. The recruitment opportunities are literally unlimited…it is the ultimate perpetual threat…an asset that will literally never go away.
In NZ too we have had blood on our hands on countless occasions and all too often underwritten the murderous deeds of the leading global Hegemons. We have been pathetic complicit vassals and our crime has been to not only have not asked enough questions on the world stage, but to actually have participated in these war crimes.
Much of the current racial tension is because MOM has rendered so much of the ME and North Africa virtually uninhabitable to the point that it has caused one of the biggest refugee crises in the history of humanity. It has incited racial tension on an unprecedented scale. The consequence is perpetual blowback that will be both widespread and generational. The horrific and tragic Christchurch incident is an example of what humanity constantly faces in the future.
We are all guilty in this even if we were only silent bystanders. We are guilty of not asking the questions that so desperately needed to be asked. Each and every one of us at a Governmental and at a personal level has blood on our hands. The future is extremely bleak and you can bet that the glutenous MOM will grab every opportunity to feed off the very strategy that will be used to fight this new and potentially unlimited enemy.
Regards from the south seas and my deepest sympathy to the victims and their loved ones.
I’m very much concerned that the killer is Austfailian. Here, the current PM, Morrison, in my opinion a vicious, imbecile, Pentecostalist, sub-thug, faces almost certain defeat in an election due by May. So did his predecessor and role model in human wretchedness, Howard, in 2001, until he began a hate campaign against refugees and then was gifted 9/11, which drove him back to power. Not saying that 9/11 was for his benefit, but his incidental success would have pleased Israel, as he was a true Sabbat Goy boot-licker.
Morrison is a total stooge of the Zionazis. He attempted to garner Jewish votes in a by-election last year, in the richest electorate in the country, Wentworth, which also, surprisingly, has the greatest Jewish population (my Gran lived there and all her old mates were Jews, some with odd blue numbers on their arms, that I never got a straight answer about from my Gran)in the country. He tried by suggesting moving the Austfailian Embassy to Jerusalem, to aid the Liberal candidate, who is a Jew. The Zionazis would prefer him to be PM, I imagine, although the Opposition Leader, Shorten, is another Sabbat Goy, long patronised by Jewish billionaire, Richard Pratt, when a trade union leader, and a well-known Israel Firster inside the Parliamentary Labor Party. A ‘revenge’ attack by jihadists for this atrocity would be Satan-yahoo’s delight, and perhaps an entre’ before the main course of an attack on Iran. If it happened in Austfailia, or to Austfailians overseas, it would almost certainly redound to Morrison’s advantage in the election, as 9/11 did for Howard.
You are aware Mulga, that little Johnny was in New York for the day. meeting with his boss and very good friend(the bloke who got him the job of PM), Rupert Murdoch. It was little Johnny who announced to Australians that America had just suffered another Pearl Harbour. I wonder who he used as a script writer?
You may even recall that little Johnny was in Britain at a meeting at Gleneagles and a ‘mutual admiration society’ meeting with Rupert for Rupert’s birthday on the eve of the London Bombing.
And to demonstrate the bravado of this man, after he pushed through his federally unconstitutional firearm laws little Johnny attended a meeting of firearm owners wearing a bullet proof vest. Apparently little Johnny didn’t trust his own constituency.
Howard’s true ‘constituency’ have whiskers and are infamous for spreading plague.
Mulga Mumblebrain: vile vermin the lot of them. What a very sad state of affairs Australia is in.
Youd know about plague Mulga, as you could shed some light on what really happened to Turing in 54 and Ward in 63. Does anyone really believe that Alan suicided on cyanide ? Or Stephen did the similar just before the jury found him not guilty – all to save Profumo and the rest of them ? Ivanov was the target, Keeler the sugar, and Ward the operative. No wonder Macmillan bowed out. Five was out of control. Ops without authorization and Six also had their finger in the pie.
After Burgess defected more leaks were detected from Ultra, Cambridge Alan was suspected when all the time it was Cairncross. And after Ward’s activities became exposed in late 62 Philby panicked and exited as Ivanov knew his status. It was double hitter.
I don’t think you can call Philby’s behaviour ‘panic’. Quite cool under pressure, really, until confronted after the Golitsyn defection.
Golitsyn was 61 – 2yrs before. N/A. Kimbo had to pull the pin.
Ward got the blame not for Keeler but for Philby.
You’d be advised to see the 1970 film The Forbin Project and note what message comes up on the machine after its switched on. Then you’d start to realize how certain people know more than they should.
How come that evoking the ‘Cambridge Five’ (and the “Spycatcher’) nobody talks about ‘The Fifth Man’, by the Australian Roland Perry, published in 1994?
Fleas have whiskers? ;-)
Vot, our Liberal fleas do. They live on our Liberal rats, biting them and sucking their blood, as they do ours, and the big fleas have little fleas, and the little fleas have lesser fleas that bite ’em, and so, ad infinitum (if you’ll forgive the butchered plagiarism).
No, rats do not, but sailors off merchant ships fleeing from infected cities and carrying the disease themselves spread the plague far and wide, but just as today we are not permitted to blame the ‘merchants’ the blame has been placed on the rats and at times the water.
The only good of that was that the source of water was improved dramatically, except of course the ale and the beer alternatives.
And of course when I was at school we were all indoctrinated with the story of ‘Typhoid Mary’ and later Anne Frank, which is another story in itself.
That’s not the constituency, that is the Parliament and its government.
I’d not be going to Gallipoli this year, myself, on ANZAC Day. 25th April, right in the middle of an election campaign-what better time for a false-flag attack arranged by the Zionazis to benefit their pet Pentecostal Sabbat Goy thug, Morriscum?
You don’t think that Scot Morrison could be doing a little Johnny Howard act similar to Port Arthur do you?
If that was the possibility then Scot would need somebody like John Elliott and David Oldfield to put out the burning coals, and reel in an ignorant redhead from Queensland.
Do you think that Scot Morrison has remembered Barry Unsworth and his fate in the 1988 NSW State election, or is he a ‘twit’ (pregnant goldfish) with only a 20 second memory span?
It looks like Bill Shorten will definitely be Australia’s next Prime Minister.
But the fact is all these ops tend to backfire on those behind them, as they always get caught in the end and the outcome isnt what they want. Eventually retribution happens. Thats one reason why Hilly didnt get elected – freedom forces were alerted and took action.
Has been Bill promised a seat at the ‘Round Table’ when he married Chloe?
Advantage ? Gun owners in Australia have broken the LNP since 1996. Have those still clinging to power not learned any lessons ? Or must they be completely destroyed with no hope of ever recovering ? Morrison may be the last Liberal PM. The LNP is on the brink since the numbers of the last Fed election – with minor parties holding the balance.
Of course this whole NZ thing is a manufactured incident as a small part of the overall circus to peddle the current agenda to interfere with Iran and Russia, however their plans will backfire and fail because people see thru all this now.
And if Theresa May thinks she will backout of BREXIT to please EU interests she will destroy the Conservative Party and cause a civil war in UK, just as one is brewing in US over north-south and centre-west/east divergent issues.
It is pretty clear now that there is much more to the Christchurch shooting than the MSM is letting on. They are very busy at the moment trying to pull the wool of the eyes of us sheeple. Zero Hedge has been blocked since soon after the event…coincidence…me thinks not…this whole sorry saga stinks to high heaven.
NZ is part of “The Five Eyes” group…just that their eyes are not working very well…seems that they only see what they want to.
Dark days indeed for the south seas
Meanwhile on the subject of terrorism, but on the other side of the world, the half-witted Greg Hunter enthusiastically fully supports Trump’s attempted take-over of Venezuela.
In the below exchange he once again lashes out at one of his regular commenters for daring to question Washington’s official version of yet another disgraceful attempted Coup de’tat. MOM has successfully recruited this well-meaning moron as well, and yet he has absolutely no clue that he has become just another asset on their long list of useful idiots.
Hunter has the audacity to call his site ‘US Watchdog’…what a sad joke.
paul … 03/17/2019 •
You know … for a man besieged by Satan’s Demons trying to do a coup against him … Trump has the balls to do exactly what the evil Satanist Demons are trying to do to him??? … what kind of logic is that???? … is acting like that … going to make America Great again????? … https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/trumps-coup-venezuela-what-youre-not-being-told
Greg Hunter 03/17/2019 •
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With all due respect in my humble opinion, the comment was arguably not really “off topic”.
I was attempting to illustrate how wide and successful the recruitment net is for fostering and creating global terrorism and how often assets for manufacturing mayhem can be found in the most unlikely places… this was part of the subject content of this thread of comments.
I have huge respect for The Saker and his work and the great contribution the moderators do.
Apologies and very best regards
Col, all Western fakestream media presstitutes need in order to peddle the hate propaganda against Venezuela is to 1) Know nothing of the 200 year history of Evil and malignant US interference and intervention throughout Latin America, with invasions, restoration of slavery, subversion, sanctions, slaughter and the training and indoctrinating of military fascists, ALWAYS to the benefit of local compradore Quisling elites and US economic interests, or, if they do, to viciously and hypocritically suppress all information regarding this diabolical record. 2) Refuse to list the litany of actions taken by the USA to overthrow the repeatedly democratically elected Chavez/Maduro Governments in Venezuela. 3)Refuse to acknowledge the great advances made in Venezuela to reduce poverty and illiteracy, disasters that the USA cared not one whit about before Chavez. 4) Refuse to properly describe and depict the odious pro-US regimes now installed throughout Latin America thanks to unceasing US efforts to restore fascist elite rule in the Western Hemisphere, regimes like the genocidal death-squad tyranny in Colombia, a true narco-state. And, naturally, the vermin who infest the Western fakestream media achieve these parameters and metrics of success in mendacity, hypocrisy and service to the elite owners, easily, with the usual 100% Groupthink and NO deviation from the US Imperial narrative.
I agree totally with everything you just said.
My point in the earlier comment that I made was, just how powerful and far-reaching the recruitment power of MOM has become. They have even managed to capture the infantile Greg Hunter who fancies himself as a ‘Watchdog’ and an investigative journalist that dutifully alerts the public to this sort of idiocy…but in his astonishingly hypocritical ignorance, he actually ends up supporting them.
Hunter applauds, at every opportunity, the action that Trump and his goons are trying on in Venezuela. As you so clearly illustrated the history of the disastrous intervention by the US hegemon in this region reads like a perpetual horror story…surely anyone with an IQ even approaching room temperature could figure this latest escapade out…yet Hunter attacks anyone who questions this latest farcically blatant Coup attempt.
Would you please define christian ……. in specifics
as this term is so widely miss-used today…
Hi Ross a, while I recognize and value as you step forward to defend, let me volunteer a brief answer. There are different kinds of Christians and that’s a subject to long discussion.
The Western pig eating Christianity is known for its blood thirst, not much for martyrdom, one can bring numerous examples.
But outstanding example is August 9, 1945 dropping A bomb on Nagasaki.
Before Plane departed it was christened by Christian chaplains and crew members were also Christians. The bomb was dropped on Nagasaki right above the largest cathedral in Orient, called St. Mary’s Cathedral with the largest Christian community in Japan.
So right here we have two distinct groups of Christians. Nagasaki was spared of napalm bombing just to be sacrificed to whom? What’s to explain?
What about today? What about Christians in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Balkans….
What about Orthodox Christianity in RF?
One thing those have in common, they all are subject of twisted and blood thirsty Western Christians obsession to kill in violation of 11th commandment given to us by our Savior Christ.
Visiting a church or listening to certain Christian radio/TV broadcasts confirms my words.
I hope I gave you reasonable answer and food for thoughts laced with my question marks.
Ps:thanks for the article
Thanks for the attempt to define christian where another above has used the term in its broadest of terms and I would suggest totally out of context ….
the above incorrectly labels a wide group of people/religions who appear to actively pursue paths of violence or/and self gratification – me first – That is not Christianity….
This grossly miss – used term over the centuries has encapsulated many religions. Most in this wider group advocate/tolerate violence towards others. Many religious groups teach and view Jesus Christ and His teachings thru different and quite conflicting windows … and in most cases are in serious error. This has arisen because many do not check and debate what they are taught or do their own research.
Christianity has become a very misleading label. and most people who are labeled christian are anything but …..Christian as reflected in their self interest behaviour
Jesus taught …. turn the other check, love, give and be at peace with all and treat all as equals… and loads more etc etc etc ….. So in simple terms ….. That would be a true Christian vocation …… but that is not evidenced in the behaviour of those who claim or are labeled christian who some use violence to gain an objective whatever that may be. Christianity is not open for interpretation as the teachings are very clear; unlike other religions which arose later…
Those who have created havoc and death and misery thru the centuries claiming they were doing gods work were not followers of Jesus s teachings ….. and were not doing Gods work …. Call them what you like but definitely not Christ – like behaviour.
Today attaching a label of Christianity to acts of violence is incorrect and mislabeling …..regardless how history interprets these acts of evil violence.
I would suggest find another term ….. eg religious bigots … religious fanatics, national butchers … whatever…. but christian is not a healthy description/label of the butchers of today and before
Ross, ‘Christians’ like Pence et al are interested only in the Torah/Old Testament with its brutal, patriarchal, genocidal ‘God’, and its litany of genocides, in invading Canaan, and in later episodes like Passover and Purim. Their chief reasons for adhering to their faiths are pure xenophobic hatred of others, and their fear of death. Any ‘God’ that would find a Pence or Pompeo to be acceptable followers would have horns and a forked tail and be enveloped in a sulphurous miasma.
The teachings of Jesus tell us many things. The intended stoning of the prostitute in which Jesus outsmarted the Rabbi with ‘Let him without sin caste the first stone’ demonstrates that Jesus was against violence, and his comment, “In my father’s house there are many rooms’ tells us that Jesus didn’t suffer from xenophobia.
So we turn to the church, or churches, which as you know were not instigated by Jesus but rather Paul, and it was the ‘Church’ that had the heretics burned at the stake, or crucified, very much against the teachings of Jesus.
It was the ‘Church’ that created superstitions, and fears of witchcraft and other silly nonsensical things, such as purgatory and the need of money to save one’s soul, and of course the ‘tithe’ which if adhered to properly would have made the priest the richest and thus most powerful man in the village.
It was the Presbyterian church founded by the Jew John Calvin (Cohen) that instigated what is called ‘Capitalism’ when he taught that there were only two types of soul, the saved and the damned, and when questioned about how one could recognised the difference, the answer was the God blessed the saved in his life and make him successful. This also created a new lifestyle of ‘living to work’ rather than the old papist belief of working to live. The best example of this is the novel written by Charles Dickens when he started to run out of money, being ‘A Christmas Carol’.
Karl Marx may have written his ‘Communist Manifesto in 1848, which caused an uprising in Europe, but as Rabbi Stephen Wise stated in 1923, “Some call it communism but I call it Judaism” that we get one of the clearest comprehension of what our supposed religions and the churches are all about, subservience to the Jewish God and that is not just the ‘Christian church.
Thank you Andrew for your astute comment.
“Wisdom begins with fear of God”
What we call Church today is usually pointing to Christianity. Well in the west we have a plethora of sects but in general they are distant from teaching of our Savior Jesus Christ.
Corporate entities, especially here in the west have different agendas, say televangelist for example.
When Christ returns what denomination will he join? Baptist, Roman Catholic or perhaps Pentecostal? Organized church in its present form unlikely was the Church mentioned by Christ.
As you mentioned churches in the past did few deeds that go against Holly Teaching.
Few real disciples of Christ existed but were persecuted by their very own churches. Jan Hus is bright example.
So not to divert from subject of lead article, what we often call Christianity has little to do with NZ incident but it is rather the dark ruling forces at work.
It was not the Church that burnt heretics at the stake, but the ‘secular’ state. Fears of witchcraft are as old as the Hamurabi’s Code. Witch hunts were bursts of people hysteria that actually the Church tried to keep in check. There were more widespread and intense in Protestant countries. The principal accusation against witches was that they “slain infants” (like the witch hunt against the supposed ‘pedophile’ priests of today).
The definition of a ‘Christian’ is and has to be a very narrow one. It simply means ‘a follower of Christ’. And the ‘i’ in the term can be understood as a diminutive, although most similar uses of “i” in many languages are simply as I first defined the term. Who is Christ? Well, the simplest definition of his character must always include nonviolence. Even when he drove the moneychangers from the temple, it is not recorded that any of those were hurt. His message was love.
Many may call themselves Christians. Simply, if they preach or practise violence, they are wrong.
Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The definition of Christians is clear.
“Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out threats of murder against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest 2to ask for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any men or women belonging to the Way, he could bring them as prisoners to Jerusalem…(Acts 9:1-2)
“Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch… (Acts 11:25-26).
Christians=followers of the Way.
So, what is the definition of Christ then?
How does the Christ defines Himself: “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me”.
How his disciples define Him: “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Eric Rudolph was certainly a cultural warrior but not at all definitively a christian one.
What I think is true is that you are a liar and a narcissistic sensationalist when you talk of all these ‘christian bombings targeting areas you were in. You make it sound that because an incident happened in a place you or may not have set foot in, you were targeted…almost personally.
By the Gods don’t go to Europe, or all the Islamist bombers will converge on you because apparently you’re so important.
Smith. Read again what I said carefully before jumping to unfounded conclusions and unnecessary insults.
Perhaps reading of a bit of history won’t do you harm. Most of us are here to broaden our horizon, give it try too.
What was really extremely interesting in regard to the Atlantic Olympic bombing was initially there was a major fight between the federalist and the State FBI in who should be in charge of the case, and the Feds won.
Then the feds went after the ‘white’ security man who first found the bomb and issued an alert, but too late to stop the explosion. Tony Jewel couldn’t believe at first that he was a suspect, but his lawyer warned him he was being set up by the FBI. The reason that the FBI targeted Tony Jewel was because he ‘fitted’ the profile of a bomber, white single male, and an ex-cop to boot.
just because you are paranoid doesn`t mean they are not after you.
“Every act of terrorism that has come close to effecting me and my life has been committed by Christians.”
What makes you assume he’s a Christian? Why should you believe anything he says or writes? Why should you believe anything the mainstream media says about this murderer? He’s most likely an asset for those few that would have us killing each other.
You can’t equate the religion with the wrongs a few people who identify themselves as belonging to it do. Does the Christian faith sanction terror? No. Do people who claim to be Christians act in ways contrary to their faith? Of course. But their professed faith condemns their behavior.
So loud condemnation of pedophile priests frequently is heard from the Vatican. I missed that.
The attack was likely a false flag.. “ultra-right wing elitist Fascists” as the author puts it, whatever-that means. Is on the rise all over the western world, these forces are all very anti-globalist, anti-internationalist, and the the biggest threat to the globalist world order – the western multicultural government is desperately looking for excuses to crack down on anti-globalists forces. As the left is totally corrupted by globalist all that remains are the “ultra-right wing elitist Fascists”
What do you mean, ‘false flag’? Nearly 50 people were killed and nearly 50 people wounded. People who were praying. That is murder. There’s nothing false about it.
False flag doesn’t mean that people weren’t hurt or killed. It means it was done by someone other that what our
“free” press says who did it. Read about Operation Gladio or the book The Little drummer girl. Nine eleven was the biggest false flag of all. Solving nine eleven by Chris Bollyn names the real culprits in nine eleven. Our “free” press demonizes Muslim people for that one. The west’s “free” press then pushed for wars to destroy seven nations. They got the same memo that Wesley Clark got. Iran is the only one not yet attacked. So our “free” press constantly talks about Iran as being “bad”. If this was a real attack, our “free” press is mostly at fault for lying about the nine eleven attacks and its going along with the plan for the destruction of seven Muslim nations.
To those who believe this was a false flag….. It was not…… nonetheless it happened. I have identifed one obvious questionable difference.
This happened because the hate between different groups is now spilling over into main street because our lying political elites sent troops on deceiptful mandates to middle east and other places to butcher for god king country central bank whatever …… Now the same elites state publically …. I am so sorry for families —- crap ….
The elites dont give a rat s arse for victims or their surviving families…. and never have… we know this.
I know this particular part of Christchurch well having lived and studied there . I also know how NZ police function from the inside . From half a world away I have spent the entire day sifting thru info and frame by frame of vids posted of events as reported before being removed and santitised.
there was one significant difference; Australian politician s knew of the named shooter as ” being seriously problematic” … and NZ did not…. So I ask if NZ Prime Minister did not know this along with Police commissioner then what happened with the info sharing at higher levels via NZ s GCSB and Australia s equivalent?
NZ is part of five eyes share s info …. Kiwis know about the Waihopai satelite station established since the early 1980s and Tangimoana…. Kiwis know about their functions …. But NZ is not a big power to kick these stations out as Australia learnt the hard way in 70s i think when Whitlam government was dissmissed trying to remove its spy staions. This allowed an election where M Frazor took office – Then business as usual.
The hate formented by powerful western governments has unleashed a – them and us – mentality. This is now at main street level….
There is a huge difference between these two nations culturally but not in any threatening way; NZ and Australia politically do differ quite noticeable. Australian Political attitude and political culture is moulded by economics and power and NZ does not have that level of advantage. Thus Australia – Canberra – has always ridden rough shod over NZ – Wellington whenever it can politically …. looking to Washington. .
Australia chose to withold data from NZ immigration and this is the Christchurch result. At the highest level a decision was made in Canberra ….. Wellington was kept in the dark.
How was it possible for the uniform police to catch first offender? The system of policing and the roads made that possible. I wont say more on that. Weapons are carried in vehicles and are secured in vehicle. Thus when needed…. Full credit to the first incident car who took him out with a solid ramming to drivers door which rendered offender seriously bruised and disabled to the right side of his body. Thus he was unable to exit vehicle without assistance.
It will be weeks post a full trial – jury – before all will become known.
This is my analysis of events based on what was available online.
Incidently despite the differences politically I love mixing with both nationalities. Both are a fun people once you get to know them. Australia is a mecca for shopping and NZ is a haven for out door activities.
NZ as a member of Five Eyes
It doesnt say too much about intelligence sharing between these agencies does it? The Australians contact with Breivik (or his “Knights”) one expects, should have been flagged up somewhere, so too his connections in the Balkans (Bulgarian gov.today).
In theory yes …… but in practice….
Information is withheld ……. and many examples over the decades to establish that point.
We see this today on a weekly basis with US intelligent agences … doing their own thing.
Blatant during that war monger Obamba s time
It has been suggested that our(NZ) membership of Five Eyes is no longer helpful, because, you know, China, or Russia. The Russians like our butter.
It certainly looks like NZ has been naughty. Re FiveEyes , we have had to sit on the naughty seat previously.
i am sad to admit that was my first line of reasoning to.
What do you mean by; “The attack was likely a false flag.”?
Have another look at it and tell me what you see. It can be nothing else but a false flag.
Australians may be depicted as vulgar, uncouth, beer-guzzling larrikins, very similar to some Americans, but they are also of the Heinz 57 variety and are some of the least racist people in the world.
So why would an Australian from Grafton near Sydney, after travelling everywhere in the world, man, travel to the end of the world to New Zealand, when all he had to do was catch a train to Lakemba in Sydney and arrive at little Lebanon to kill as many Muslims as he wanted,
As an after thought, just what was General David Petraeus doing in Sydney last year when he commented on ISIS in the Philippines? They weren’t ISIS, they were the Moro Independent movement which has been in Mindanao since before MacArthur’s time. Yes, what was Petraeus doing in Sydney, and please don’t tell me watching the latest war games as that is not the correct answer.
Aussies began to refine themselves:
In 2018, “39.2% of all alcohol consumed in the year.Wine was a close second, accounting for 38.3% of pure alcohol”.
What did you think was going to happen when you flooded the West with terrorists and allowed them to just rape and slaughter native Europeans wholesale? Did you think no one would get mad?
”What did you think was going to happen when you flooded the West with terrorists and allowed them to just rape and slaughter native Europeans wholesale? Did you think no one would get mad?”
Don’t be silly. Slaughtering native Europeans will be done primarily by other violence addicted native Europeans. As the Western Empire crumbles, there will be cataclysmic eruptions of violence and depravity as the middle classes get shafted. Western self-pity and victimology are not going to help you out.
More like what do you think will happen if you invade other continents, commit genocide its natives, enslave them and then proclaim yourselves to be natives. This s**t show was started by the west, not by the muslims. Had NATO not invaded and destroyed muslim countries like afghanistan, iran, libya, mali etc., all this blood bath would never have happened.
I recall a Muslim terror attack in Sweden, ran over a 14 year old girl named Ebba, literally split her into two.. this is the norm for white people in European countries.
Ebba was specifically mentioned as retribution- motive in the Christchurch attack so Sweden may be the next target for Us Natos serial false flags.
Nice, tidy connection there.
So this Australian specimen goes to New Zealand to ”avenge” a victim in Stockholm? Coming to think of it, that’s just how the ruling Zionazis ”avenge” the H. by calling everybody A. and gorging on mass killings for good measure.
Where are all his Aussie school mates talking about how he was really creepy?
I bet nobody ever heard of him.
The ‘norm’ is it Nick? What a glorious amalgam of idiocy and hatred you are-you should give politics a try in Austfailia. You’d go far.
The West occupies and kills Muslims in their own countries for decades, if not centuries. The West supports terrorists to rule, divide and weaken their countries and other countries (Russia, China, etc.). Then after the terrorism that they created spills over, they want to take their revenge on the rest of the Muslims that they haven’t killed yet…..all in the name of freedom and democracy.
And despite all of their efforts and their power, they are the ones who are in a total and utter decline, with the global Muslim population only increasing across the planet…….God is truly great :-).
But the fact that Muslims killed Christians in their own countries for centuries doesn’t trouble you?
This attack may have been really stage by this 1 guy, although too early to be sure.
But the European attacks were very likely all fake
‘The recent terror attacks in Europe over the last 3-4 years [..] left many Europeans not knowing how to deal with them other than in one of two manners, either by shifting their votes towards ultra-right wing parties, or taking the law in their own hands.’
I could also ask: define ‘many’
And law in their own hands: 1 maybe in NZ took the law in his own hands
And right left has no meaning at all if you want to define political choice
Doesn’t the author know all this?
“But the European attacks were very likely all fake”
Not likely, but certainly!
What really worries me is the potential backlash against peaceful Whites.
The “operation” in New Zealand looks very, very tidy.
The spin is in – her Majesty has spoken to “her people”. Theresa is on the phone to Jacinda, whose name has now been “hallowed”.
“We are with you in spirit”. Yeah right!
Do they not see the irony, if the ” white- supremacist- anti-immigrant ” schtick is to be believed?
Hello! English Queen.
I remember in ’96 a Jewish settler in Hebron entered a mosque and sprayed the unsuspecting worshippers with lead killing dozens.
The Israeli soldiers that rushed to scene, shot up dozens more trying to save him from the enraged survivors.
The settler community he came from erected a memorial for him.
The entire socio-political system of Zionist occupation that made it possible still endures and has even worsened with apathy and even endorsement by the West and sections of the Islamic world.
None of this applies to what happened in Christchurch today.
As tragic as this event is, no one should try to capitalize on the deaths of these people to push a certain political agenda, further engineer public opinion or restrict freedoms.
Muslims especially should remember how the same powers and the MSM that now cuddles them in the wake of this tragedy, is the one that gave Netanyahu his frontstage after the Paris
‘attacks’ and drove the ‘Je suis Hebdo’ narrative.
This is the same media and TPTB that after 9/11 drove the ’19 terrorist muslims did it and we need to invade Iraq and oh yeah, while you were fuming at the mouth, we passed the Patriot act’ agenda.
People in the West, non-muslim and muslim alike, have a legimate interest in discussing Zionism, the war on terror, multiculturalism, immigration (muslim or otherwise), integration, etc and the way these seemingly unrelated topics are interrelated and effect them, ideally with one another.
They are manipulating peoples like cattle, herding and scattering them as they see fit, with every step furthering
“O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the one who is most righteous. Lo! Allah is All-Knowing, Aware.”
“People in the West, non-muslim and muslim alike, have a legimate interest in discussing Zionism, the war on terror, multiculturalism, immigration (muslim or otherwise), integration, etc and the way these seemingly unrelated topics are interrelated and effect them, ideally with one another.”
The simple way for the west would be to throw out the anglo-zionist regimes, stop their propaganda war against Islam (Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela and other socialist states) and get out of the invaded countries. It’s the people of the west who gives the thumbs up for the invasion of muslim countries in their parliaments through their representatives by getting brainwashed by their media. Why do you think that muslims wont react violently if the west bombs their homelands.
Had the west not invaded muslim coutries, they wouldn’t have to deal with the topics of integration, multiculturalism and immigration today. Even Gaddafi had warned that if his regime goes down, Europe would be faced with an immigration crisis.
I’m sorry pn121, but your suggestions are all dweadfully ‘antisemitic’. The glorious ‘Clash of Civilizations’ between the ineffable JUDEO-Christian West, and the savage barbarians of-well, of everywhere else, really (the Moslems are just the first cab off the rank)-is the paramount duty of all right-thinking citizens to support. To the hilt, and beyond!!
Three days before the Ethiopia airline crash the plane was inspected in Israel. Two Israeli citizens bailed out of the flight before it took off. 19 UN workers and 2 employees of Russian Sberbank perished. This was an obvious to me attack for the UN recognizing Israel’s war crimes against Palestinians.
The Talmudists left their signatures in the NZ attack, also. It’s just like in 9/11 they left fresh passports among ruins and melting metal, they scratched their balls and decided to get back at Erdogan, who is our guy, as I mentioned many times before. Erdogan just declared Netanyahu to be a murderer of Palestinian children, which is an absolute God honest truth.
To get back at Erdogan, the organizers of the mass shooting in New Zealand scribbled in Russian and Georgian names of those who historically fought against the Ottoman Empire and the Turks like Russian admiral Dmitry Senyavin a hero of the naval Battle of the Dardanelles 1807, and in Georgian names of David Soslan and David Agmashenebeli.
You can see the images of the magazines here
Everything points at just another ritualistic Talmudic mass murder, which the NZ law enforcement is unable to process correctly, because they don’t have the tools to go after the extremist Rabbinical cult. 200 people killed by them just in one week in front of the captured audience, and the murders will continue until the UN declares the Talmudism to be an extremist cult. Meanwhile, it would help if the law enforcement would place one citizen of Israel on every passenger plane, and the relatives of the victims would sue Israel in a civil court.
my personal opinion.
From the outset , it has appeared to be cleverly executed. Great control of the “narrative”, and a clear message.
The names of Milos Obilic and Bajo Pivljanin (found at site) are well known to all
Serbs and Montenegrins as quintessential heros and fighters against Turkish occupation.
Milos Obilic killed sultan Murat in Kosovo battle in 1389.
Bajo Pivljanin was Montenegro hajduk (guerilla fighter) who killed many Turkish agas during 19th century.
Unless someone studied Serbian history in great detail it is unlikely to know about them.
So, their names must be kind of “greetings” message to Erdogan, a current Turkish sultan.
Greetings from Spiral
This makes no sense.
There are 2 Israeli in the passenger list.
Inspected for what since the plane is brand new.
What is your source?
Are you insinuating that BOING fid not screws up big time?
Ate you telling us that the 737 MAX is safe to flight?
Sorry buddy, I don’t buy it because I was expecting the next max crash since Lion Air.
The plane is not safe. That’s all.
I am not selling you anything. I’m just reporting and here are my sources:
I have no sympathy for the Boeing company, but there are overlooked facts that might reveal that the plane was tampered with while in Israel.
1. “The Addis Ababa-Nairobi route is often used by Israelis, as there are no direct flights between Israel and Kenya. Channel 13 reported that the plane that crashed had been in Israel as recently as last Wednesday.”
Other sources report that this particular plane had undertook a detailed technical inspection while being in Israel.
Israel Moses and Sherga Israel, two Israeli business owners in Africa, were supposed to get on a plane that crashed in Ethiopia, but canceled their flight before the disaster.
3. Двое израильтян сдали билеты на разбившийся в Эфиопии Boeing
11 марта 2019, 11:54 (Machine translation: 3. Two Israelis handed over tickets for the crashed in Ethiopia – mod)
The Mirror says here that no bodies were found on the site of Ethiopian 737Max crash. The video in the article from site is not convincing att all, could be from any dump anywhere, so what the hell is going on here ? Also observe the shoe-picture in the article, which you always have in these false flag events
What is strange is this entire incident is that an Australian instigates an attack against Muslims in New Zealand. Why New Zealand and not Australia, where Muslims have even demanded the creation of an independent Muslim state ? This needs explanation.
As for the West and it’s policies in encouraging radical Islam outside Muslim countries, there is some truth in this analysis. However, I would like to point out that we are living in the 21st century, and the philosophy of radical Islam, which existed in the Middle Ages, has no place in this century. Yet it is to be found, supported by many. Saudi Arabia refused to accept a single Syrian refugee, but has offered Germany the money to construct 400 mosques. This type of attitude cannot be accepted, to put it mildly.
Christchurch I know very well and it is a very peaceful tourist city where generally everyone gets along and are very kind and helpful to each other and visitors. Kiwi friendliness is well known.
According to what I read, the Aussie picked one of the least likely places for this to happen, the message being that this can happen anywhere and that there’s nowhere to hide.
There are a number of factors that are yet to have explanations so I will await more detail.
well stated … lets wait and see.
Unless one knows these two cultures and has lived there much will be a mystery to those who live in far away nations.
“where Muslims have even demanded the creation of an independent Muslim state ?”
What are you even talking about???
Australia where restaurants are allowed to put up signs saying we don’t serve moslems or dogs here because of free speech?
What total BS. Both State and Federal Anti-Discrimination law made that sign illegal.
Look up the case the restaurant owner wasn’t even tried. Because they said since no one was dis riminated against as in no Muslim person presented himself and he got refused service then there is no crime. Got it.
There are two dangers which face everyone who has to “process” this massacre in New Zealand: 1. to simplify and accept a Christian/Muslim divide 2. to despair of the human race i.e. people are just no darn good !
Either attitude feeds into the power agenda of the 1% and their technocrat cohorts who in their megalomaniac insanity want to rule with robots and a minimum of helpful serf-humans ( chipped, of course).
Let us abandon solidarity and acts of human mercy ( like demanding the lifting of sanction from the people of Venezuela), let us stop having children or providing the children we do have with protection and nurturing ( privatize schools run by corporations) , let’s withdraw into antiseptic communities of true believers.
And do their work for them.
There is a third option – not allow fanatics to divide our peaceful society. That is the option we will take here in New Zealand. It was actually a miscalculation to choose this country – we are very well integrated here, and the attempt to divide us will only strengthen our resolve to be an open, tolerant and welcoming society. The only difference will be a change in the gun laws and more strict checks on Europeans with a history of racist and violent views. The sight of thousands of regular Kiwis coming out to visit mosques and lay flowers is the true character of our country – not this vicious bigot with his medieval ideas.
If you wish to post here – please write a full comment and not just post links and two words. Otherwise all your posts will go to trash. Mod.
Looking at this awful and tragic terrorist attack from across the ‘ditch’ (as we say) – the early news reports all included footage from the ‘live streaming’ from the attacker’s car – we could see the guns on the seat, hear his very particular choice of battle music, see his face and hear his message, then he casually walked towards the mosque — the news blanked out the rest…
All very odd – due to absence of people outside the mosque. Then the news showed more of his live streaming – talking to someone else in his car, swerving to avoid hitting a pedestrian… then he arrives at another mosque.
Then we saw his car rammed off the road by a police vehicle – video taken by another motorist.
All very odd and many questions to be asked. And he has an very deep knowledge of every battle against the Ottoman Turks. Including Russian war against the Turks.
Yes. In NZ we have a saying – ” sticking out like dog’s balls”.
The command of history is certainly impressive.
It’s no coincidence that this odious mass shooting was conducted in a city with the name Christchurch.
Of course, the perps would choose the Ides of March to carry out such a heinous and murderous plot.
New Zealand Mosque Massacre: A Gladio False Flag Attack, Black Operation and Global Psyop
Sputnik news has started doing news without verification. The article says “Ottoman ruler Saladin”, . Every muslim knows that Saladin was a muslim leader of Kurdish ancestry and had nothing to do with the Ottomans.
This is even more stupid when saldin liven 300 years before the ottoman rule even started
…“The infamous November 2015 Bastille Day attack in Nice, the London Bridge and Manchester attack, the Munich attack, just to name a few, were undeniably ISIS-inspired attacks.”
No, these attacks bore the distinct fingerprints of the travelling Atlantic Council-connected global mass casualty attack mafia, and with Zionist links.
ISIS’ only connection to them is, that a Zio-NATO core runs ISIS, HTS/al-Qaeda, Boko Haram and many other terrorist groups. Ole Dammegard has done meticulous research on this. ISIS, whatever its legend says, is basically a tool to destroy Middle East states. Only the NATOists have the reach to go as far as New Zealand.
Anyone who denies that Daash is a project of the USA, Sordid Barbaria and Talmudistan is an ignoramus or liar. Just as al-Qaeda was and is. As Chomsky said on a video I watched this afternoon, the Real Axis of Evil hates secular Arab nationalism, and fully supports salafist, takfiri, Wahhabist fundamentalism, instead. And they will unleash one of their sleeper cells in the West to take ‘vengeance’ for this atrocity, in the familiar fashion. Hatred is their religion.
Of course, you are correct. The MIT (CIA/FBI) in Turkey, was responsible for leading both left and right violence in Turkey prior to the 1980 American backed neoliberal coup. MIT formed some of the leftist and rightist groups and ran them with their operatives at the top. The minions recruited by them were unaware of this, merely following the given script of violence, killing each other for the same objective – undermining the leftist coalition under Ecevit, and justification of the military coup.
Al Qaeda and its some of its off shoots, especially, ISIS are most likely run by the CIA or associated Intelligence agencies of the West. This is unknown to the vast majority of the underlings fighting on their behalf.
I’m from Christchurch. I lived in this beautiful city for almost 7 years before moving to Australia in 2004. I struggle to comprehend how this evil could happen there – of all places. 49 innocent human beings slaughtered. All because of pathological hatred. Them Us. The Other. This is the logical outcome of the constant demonising of Muslims in the gutter Murdoch rags, and amongst fringe politicians like Fraser Anning and George Christensen and Ms Hanson. This is the result. Constantly stoking a fear of The Other. First the earthquake in Christchurch, and now this terrorist slaughter. The World is spinning into the abyss.
hey guys be careful ,don’t buy into this ”we vs them” narrative ,this is the powerful connotion that the ” one percent” who set our reality use to divide and keep us enslaved.Just imagine if this sort of things does not happen all rational for the billion dollar war budget disappears .Stop being a patsy by believing into this ”we vs them” kool aide,.THEY,the one percent wants humanity divided by race,culture,colour,religion ,nationalism ,ideologies and what ever evil thingies they can dream up,get real stop hate where it originates….in the HEART!.Than you can walk in the valley of death…. safe.
Why the NZ?
The New Zealand is not as innocent as some try to picture it. It has been selling citizenship and lands to the rich and powerful, who seek to escape civil unrest and nuclear war, something many of them work to facilitate.
The Talmudism teaches that all wealth on earth belongs to the cult members, so, they are always looking to rob those rich who are not members of the cult. Being a devoted Zionist doesn’t help. Consider the choice of location a threat to those who thinks of the NZ as a safe haven.
No one takes into consideration that the NZ is one of those dedicated “command centers” that will be targeted by Russia when NATO attacks it. I assume that this will take place around next presidential election in Russia in 2024. So, the NZ is living on borrowed time. The NZ will be destroyed with all those rich and powerful, who plan to take their refuge in the NZ, to prevent them from conducting their usual activities and command their private armies, hacking and terror operations.
Scott,I doubt that these people will spend much time here; they are too conspicuous, and NZers do not want them here. It is not safe for them here.
Gezzah, the root of this Islamophobia is Zionazism. Follow the trail, monetary, propagandistic and ideological from violent Islamophobes and you soon reach some Zionazi benefactor. The Zionazi controlled Western fakestream media is rife with Islamophobic hatred, and anyone who dares to criticise Israel in any way, or support the Palestinians in any way, will be assailed by a tsunami of villainous abuse and slander as an ‘antisemite’. The Zionazis are in open alliance with European and US fascists, like Anders Brievik, united by their genocidal hatred Moslems. The several million killed since the 1970s are merely the first course in the Zionazi ‘Clash of Civilizations’ where the likes of Satan-yahoo and the other Talmudistan fascists are using the captive states of the West to prosecute their war on Islam.
Mulga Mumblebrain: Cheers Mulga. You mean like Tommy Robinson and the EDL in the UK? (for example). Ive seen that said elsewhere about the Zionists alliance with fascist groups, espec in Europe. Having lived in Aussie for 15 years now, I know that Islamophobia is rife here; the hatred stoked by the usual suspects like Andrew Bolt, Pauline Hanson and Cory Bernardi along with many others I could name. I loathe bigotry and hatred of ‘The Other’. I’ve experienced buckets of it myself as a gay person. When I first heard the news about Christchurch, my initial gut feeling was it was a false flag – Operation Gladio type event. New Zealand acting a bit too independently? In Israel’s bad books over NZ’s perceived anti semitism recently? I virtually don’t look at MSM anymore, so am a bit ignorant of the latest goings on except via independent media.
Yes, Gezzah. The very name ‘English Defence League’ is a give-away, as it echoes the jargon of the ultra-fascist and racist Kahane’s ‘Jewish Defence League’ that has just entered an alliance with Satan-yahoo, prior to the Talmudistan elections, and which still terrorises Arabs and Moslems in France. At English Defence League hate-fests, in Moslem areas, there were as many Talmudistan flags flying as Cross of St. George flags, until they were told to cool it, and stop being so obvious. And the whole shebang was financed into existence by a generous ‘English’ Zionazi-it’s 100% kosher, no doubt about it.
“New Zealand PM says ‘gun laws will change’ after mosque shooting”
No surprise there then.
No surprise that she said that, but it won’t happen. There is an election coming up.
She will set up a committee to report later, sometime after the election.
The order out of chaos train has finally arrived in NZ
Well that was my first impression on hearing this.
I have already heard the “nationalists are evil” squeal coming from the Presstitutes (blackwashing anyone who believes in their nation associating them with these other muppets)
I live in Auckland and have seen cop cars hanging around a mosque near my house
To add some context to all this I have observed a lot of shootings suddenly occur over the last few weeks
It seemed suspicious to me at the time then it built up to this
The cops were calling to be armed at all times
Will we end up with an israeli trained military police force like in the states
Apparently these clowns uploaded a long video onto YouTube and didn’t get shut down which is strange considering the speed at which they censor everything else, so I guess heavy censorship is on the cards
As for NZ being undeserving well that’s a bit doubtful
Our SAS helps the Americans a lot
In fact there is an ongoing investigation into their conduct in Iraq
When those British SAS guys got hit in Yemen I had to wonder if our guys were helping them in their evil deeds
We will see what happens with all this when the dust settles
New Zealand is in a dangerous position now
The elites moving in and buying up /bunkering down for the coming storm ,thinking themselves safe
I wonder if I’m going to see a Sarmat missile face to face
My sad observation is that kiwis are sleepwalking their way to oblivion, as they always did
Thank you Brandon for boots on the ground reporting from NZ. Living in northern hemisphere I had not realized such eventuality where NZ would be also targeted in upcoming global conflict butt you make perfect sense.
Elitists are provisioning for safe refuge in in your part of the world for long time now. Rumour is that E Abrams tweeted about his safe refuge being finished in NZ and being promised 30 day notice. Those people will try to maintain their authority and stay in command thus have to be destroyed. Worse than pathogens.
Is there a corner in this world that is not affected by this grand evil?
These are perilous times we live in.
Thanks for your kind words S75ponny
I will list some tid bits that might be interesting
-An old work colleague once told me of something that his grandmother told him – she was apparently knowledgeable of Freemason lore and said that for a long time they had earmarked NZ as their future paradise and Australia as their wheat belt.
-NZ has an unwritten constitution (they can do whatever they want) like two other countries England and Israel (worryingly) also the Governor General (the representation of the crown) has the power to override the government in extreme cases
So we never had sovereignty just the illusion of it
They gave the pet a extra long leash but I’m feeling that it’s about to be yanked short again
See Rouble Nationalization – the Way to Russia’s Freedom by Nikolai Starikov on the issue of sovereignty
A real eye opener
-There has always been a lot of noise about nazi war criminals going to Argentina but I have come to suspect that mabe we had a share come here to the South Island
This doco of a woman from a nazi ss family who settled there called “Strawberries with the Führer”
I wonder how many others are around
It has happened elsewhere such as operation paperclip in America where we saw Walt Disney and his mate von Braun
– scot humor posted an article a while ago about Israel and proposed that the elites were planning to move them out to somewhere else
I suspect these muppets will be heading this way
I have a Christian friend who told me of a recent meeting With a Jewish “Christian” who was sent to reach out to NZ christians to help them intergrate with Jewish travelers- as soon as I heard this I thought “infiltrator paving the way” and told my friend as much.
Loos like every clown wants a piece of this pie
-I spent the last five years in Taranaki , a farming area on the west coast
Over th last two years I noticed a massive increase in military flights at night , I could hear the low droning of transporters quite often -who the hell are thes guys we don’t even have much of an airforce.
Others have told me of seeing black aircraft flying around
Elites don’t come alone the bring their private armies with them
-my cousin is a cop here in Auckland and said that this shooting doesn’t surprise him – he said violence is on the rise here
The systems of this country are hemorrhageing
Doctors on strike health system under great stress
People are getting angry
The justice system is a joke criminals get a slap on the wrist and courruption (sorry mismanagement) is rampant.
Interesting that you mention the military transport flights. I am on the flight path into Ohakea. I have noticed the same thing.
A bit of a different take on the NZ massacre: several sites identify this as a NWO globalist elite false flag attack.
Something fishy as hell about the shooter and what he has said/written as his influences and reasons for this terrorist act. My guess is he, and his accomplices, were groomed, and that Russia will somehow get blamed by the zionazi-gays. If not already…
I read the great replacement, no mention of Russia
He admires China. Best to see hin as a follower of Breivik. Took him over 2 years to plan. He travelled in Europe on the profits from speculating in Bitcoin. His intelligence is remarkable as autodidact, choice of 3 poems strange. If he is Breivik 2.0 this is a
worrying development in the pathology of Extremismus.
New Zealand Mosque Shooter Wanted to Kill Merkel for EU’s ‘Racial Cleansing’
“He went on to brand Turkey’s president “the leader of the largest Islamic group within Europe”, apparently referring to European citizens of Turkish descent. He said Erdogan should be targeted to remove Russia’s “prime enemy” and weaken NATO.”
What is Known So Far About the Shooter Who Attacked Two New Zealand Mosques
“He reportedly noted that he had purposefully used guns to stir discord in the United States over the Second Amendment’s provision guaranteeing the right to bear arms.”
The reference to defending Russia from the Turks and wanting to initiate anti gun laws in the usa. That is what I meant by fishy. Stinks of zionazi-gay psyops to connect the guy, and his right-wing extremism/white supremacy to Russia. At the same time stir division in the usa over gun ownership, a favourite tactic of there’s, used in past terror acts.
“simultaneously weakening Turkeys hold on the region, removing a prime
enemy of Russia and destabilizing and fracturing NATO….”
This is the only mention, and it is an indirect one; I’m not sure if it makes sense as the “hostilities” between Turkey and Russia, the high-point the downing of the plane that took place 24. Nov. 2015 is no longer. Turkey is edging ever closer to Russia (Akkuyu nuclear power plant or the sale of S-400s ). Perhaps an argument can be made that these joint collaborations are actually destabilizing and fracturing NATO, not to mention the efforts of Russia, Iran and Turkey regarding Syria right now. There is no adulation as with China.
But I guess a case can be made out. He claimed he had written a lengthier book and deleted it recently.
I was struck with all the topical references to Erdogan, Merkel and Kahn as well as Brexit, and that it was strange not to read anything about Russia or Putin. For that matter I don’t remember the Ukraine being mentioned either? However, it is written in a flippant manner and full of errors.
He claims that he is a “staunch atheist” so the references to Christchurch etc., or a Christian background, I don’t read too much into. Maybe his atheism is a striking difference to Breivik, who I believe saw himself as a “knight” in a crusade of sorts?
His ‘manicfesto’ looks like the purest essence of BS to moi. An exercise in track-covering and deception, by way of which they work to spread confusion among the non-Gods.
I agree, what the shooter says/writes appears to be things designed to push buttons, not any sort of actual connected together views. Stinks of psywar.
I think the fact that he filmed it real time was the original thrill, cant recall one quite like that on a large scale. Guess its the new 15 minutes.
Dear Ghassan Kadi,
(Removed insults that violate the blog rules.MOD)
In regard to religious terrorism within British history you could start at the two gnomes of 1608 with James 1st of England and his dwarfish offsider Robert Cecil aka Lord Salisbury and the ‘Gunpowder Plot’ as per Webster Tarpley’s comments on that false flag. But if you follow Scottish history and read between the lines James actions against the Papist Highlanders as well as his war against the Papist Irish is very well recorded. Those ‘troubles’ in Ireland lasted until the 1980’s where there is still the residue of 300 years of animosity.
Both Robert Cecil and his father William were ‘Spymasters’ for the English Kings and Queen prior to James 1st, and to be a spymaster one had to be literate within the Jewish language which was used as a code right up to the discovery of the ‘Protocols of Zion’ in the late 1800’s.
Of course, if you wish to delve back further into history, there is always the Book of Ester.
Now let’s skip that history lesson and simply go back thirty years or so to the ‘Gun massacres’ that started in the late 1980’s up until 1996 in Australasia but continuing up until the Hillary Clinton/ Robert Mueller/James Yacone created Aurora Theatre massacre in Colorado.
In Australia we had the ‘Hoddle Street Massacre in August 1987 with Julian Knight, where the uniformed police were ordered to simply seal off the area (and let the gunman continue to murder civilians) and wait for the SOG’s to arrive. Then there was the Queen Street Massacre in December 1987 with Frank Vitkovic, and again the uniformed police were instructed to seal off the area (and let the gunman continue to murder civilians) and await the SOG’s. Then followed the Strathfield Massacre (1991) with Wade Frankum and David Gray in Aramoana New Zealand (1990), where strangely enough the local police special forces were on exercise in the general area at the time, with one of the ‘trainers’ being Sgt Michael Charles Dyson of the Tasmania Police SOG.
Sgt Michael Charles Dyson again featured in Australia’s next gun massacre, that at Port Arthur in April 1996, where Dyson was the shooter at the Seascape Cottage, where the gunman was loathe to shoot any policeman, after murdering 35 civilians at Seascape and the Port Arthur Historic Site. Strangely enough ASIO lost 7 operatives in that massacre and there were 6 American Intelligence operatives on the site as well.
In regard to the Port Arthur Massacre, the Australian Federal Attorney General’s Department sent a memo to the UN in regard to gun control in January 1996 stating that the required gun laws and confiscation would be initiated in May 1996. This of course correlates with Hillary Clinton’s agenda with the UN just prior to the Aurora Theatre Massacre in Colorado.
Again in 1996, the UN announced its agenda for the removal of firearms from the world’s civilian population, and that agenda has not been repealed.
And then we had the ‘war on terrorism’ or to be précis war on Muslim terrorism being initiated with 911 where Bibi Netanyahu was in New York telling the world that this was good for Israel. Of the 19 Muslim ‘terrorists’ named at least 5 immediately stated that they were still alive and not involved in 911, but of course the media would never kill a good story as 911
Then Australia had to reinforce the new dogma with the ‘Bali’ bombing in October 2002 and the fact that there were three bomb sites, not one and the role played by Cap’t Rodney Damon Cocks of the ADF was completely ignored. This of course was followed by the London Bombing on the 7/7/2005, featuring Bibi Netanyahu again, but this time Bibi had been warned which was again simply prior knowledge which was also demonstrated by Efraim Halevi who wrote comments on the bombing in the Jerusalem Post that demonstrated prior knowledge.
And of course there is very little information of the ‘three’ terrorists that were shot and killed at Canary Wharf shortly after the bombing. Syd Khan of course had been taken out the previous day after he attempted to pull out of the ‘exercise’ due to the fact that his wife had just miscarriaged.
In Australia in recent years we have had three ‘exercises’ by governments to place the population in thrall. There was the Sydney Lindt Cage Siege where the police claims were ludicrous. There was the Dimy/Jimmy Gargasoulas 8 hour chase and drama, in which a participating police Sergeant stated unequivocally that ‘This is not a terrorist event’ as he was supposedly attending to one of the thespians pretending to be injured.
And finally we had on the 8th November 2018 the ‘Trolley man’ affair, again in Bourke Street where things went terribly astray again, but there is sufficient proof to demonstrate that ‘the hero’ Trolley man aka Michael Rogers and company were in fact ASIO.
And now from our deceitful, lying media along with our criminally Zionist governments telling us of another massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand. The New Zealand Prime Minister has stated that this was the first terrorist attack on New Zealand soil, so she has forgotten David Gray and his 1990 episode.
How can I trust any government that lies to us? How can I believe any MSM report when they are demonstrably propaganda? Is there any difference between what King James 1st of England (think KJV of The Bible) and his chief spy Robert Cecil said back in 1608 to what our governments and media tell us today?
What we are actually witnessing is the creation of another religious war that could rage for a hundred years to the detriment of us all, Whether or not the Christchurch massacre was real or pretend like the Bourke Street events in Melbourne or the Sandy Hook School massacre or the Boston Bombing charades, it doesn’t really matter. They are designed to spread fear and distrust among our communities and to keep us in thrall and thus unable to think properly.
There is no doubt about the intent, but it will not work in NZ. The dickheads do not realise that Sonny Bill Williams is a muslim, and with his awesome offloads and running skills we could not care less.
This our Sonny Bill:-
A national hero and a muslim. Only in Godzone
In that case dear Anonymous, then the Christchurch massacres was planned in Sydney or Canberra. I can only hope that Mulga will have some insights as more information comes to hand.
Andrew S MacGregor
You can take the Strathfield Massacre out of the evidence for your conspiracy theory. I know people that worked there and almost became victims and I knew the killer, Wade Frankum. He was a lonely loser who “had to leave” a prestigious private college and came to our semi-selective State High School. He remained a lonely loser after he left High School and ended up in a series of dead-end jobs. Nothing was ever his fault. He was almost bankrupt at the time of the shootings and I suspect he wanted to achieve something with his miserable life – to go out in a blaze of glory.
It was not Wade Frankum that formed the ‘conspiracy’, but rather the evidence around him and the various players including P/W Det Catherine Noyes who was the little old lady whose car Frankum commandeered, was driven a short distance and then got out of the car and blew his brains out.
Now what was that book that Frankum had been reading prior to his demise? An American Physio? And then Professor Paul Mullen quotes something from that book that Frankum said to a witness just prior to the massacre. How on earth did the witness know that Frankum’s retort was a quote from that book, even if the witness had even read the book himself? How did Mullen know?
Are you aware of the various ploys police recruits are trained in for self survival? I am! Are you aware of what a ‘Modus Operandi’ actually is? It’s like a signature left at a crime scene. How is it that so many ‘gun massacres’ had the same ‘Modus Operandi’? Spontaneous events or planned events?
And so with this Christchurch massacre. There will be little ‘insignificant’ clues left that will tell you so much, if you know what to look for.
An Imam’s wife says two shooters but the NZ police say only one shooter. Two shooters simply means a conspiracy, and planning but the NZ government will not want any signs of a ‘conspiracy’.
Now can you remember the other gun massacre that occurred in the US about the time of the Aurora massacre in Colorado? The one that took place at an Indian Sikh temple where the Sikhs claimed there were also two shooters?
Andrew, “lonely losers” are ALWAYS the patsies are they not?
Always, Struth, always.
Cue The Little River Band. I’ d do it myself , but I’m on a ( expletive) i-pad.
”The tragic news of terrorism in New Zealand highlights the failure of Western governments in dealing with it.”
As if the Western governments don’t know what they are doing. Their endless plotting across the planet to create mayhem, murder, and poverty makes it all but tempting to actually pity dregs such as Anders Behring Breivik and this Brenton Tarrant specimen. Not every Western psychopath is interested in joining the West’s humanitarian interventions elsewhere after all; some prefer to do it at home or, as in this case, the ”near abroad”. It must feel weird to be greeted with rage when you are just trying to behave as per your betters and their psychotic Western misculture.
The Western governments are very much part of the problem. Evil and rotten to the core. As for Brenton Tarrant, if he believed he was on ’friendly terms’ with the Zionazis, the less said the better.
Every time there’s a shooting spree they want to take guns away from the people who did not do it. That alone is reason enough for cold-hearted “power” to murder innocents. When did a shooting spree become “terrorism”? Is a bank robbery political? How is murder any different? What we see is curated violence to create a condition of tensions for the goal of creating consent for what Power wishes to do to us, which we would otherwise refuse to accept.
Ghassan doesn’t broach the idea that several of the attacks in ‘the West’ which he mentions – and others which he doesn’t – show marked evidence of having been false-flag atrocities actually committed by criminals of the Western deep-state formations, to terrorise ‘their own’ people into the arms of authoritarian, increasingly-fascistic Western governments. The terrorism isn’t all being committed by muslim enemies of the West. Quite a bit of it appears to be self-inflicted.
Indeed, since ‘islamic’ terrorism has been encouraged, funded and armed widely by Western deep-state actors, a case can be made that the whole outbreak of ‘anti-Western’ terrorism has been created – quite deliberately, not as an idiotic accident – by the deep-state criminals of the West. The gangsters and war-criminals who in reality run the Western ‘democracies’ actually want, need, and **deliberately help to create and maintain** the terrorist ‘enemy’ formations whom they purport to oppose, precisely to terrorise, and thus maintain their hold on, Western populaces.
This is probably the major reason why ‘anti-Western’ terrorism exists at all, quite apart from the – entirely understandable – vengeful hostility which Western state and economic gangsterism has created amongst the many victims of Western global imperialism. The military-industrial-political establishment of the Western ‘democracies’ always needs some at least minimally-credible fearsome bogey-man with which to justify its continued existence and growth, to maintain its own rabidly **anti**democratic power, and to keep the taxes of Western citizenries flowing into its – privatised – hands.
” … not just a New Zealand event, but is the outcome of the rise of far-right, fascistic networks that have developed around the world, promoted and protected from the highest levels of the state apparatus. Their activities have expanded alongside the rapid escalation of the international class struggle and desperate moves by the ruling elites to suppress opposition by eviscerating basic democratic rights…”
Well, duh, of course. See> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/16/chri-m16.html
Quote> “…Tarrant claims to have sought a “blessing” for the attack from the “reborn Knights Templar” (see: Anders Breivik) White supremacist organizations are thoroughly infiltrated by government operatives. I would expect anyone communicating with these organizations to wind up on multiple watchlists. NZ is part of the 5 Eyes system and everyone’s activities on the Internet are under blanket surveillance at all times. Are we expected to believe that the spooks don’t bother with 4chan?”
He spotted the game… See> https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=54541
state curated and with a designed goal…
”The truth of the matter is that when it comes to ISIS attacks on the West that highlight the inabilities of Western governments to curb it, both the American Democrats and Republicans have an unwritten agreement of bipartisan inaptitude-based silence.”
Well, perhaps another more straightforward explanation is this: The US government and the Deep State are staffed with people whose Exceptionalism and Indispensability are on a scale which allows them to treat not only their ”Western allies” but even their own Exceptional and Indispensable compatriots at home with richly deserved contempt and even burning hatred. 911 proves the case convincingly, where people proudly working in the very hubs of US imperialism found themselves at the receiving end of it for a change.
Shooter travelled to North Kirea and spent months in Pakistan but was not on any watch list…NZ PM has some spine…go get em Jacinda.!
NZ PM only needs to demand answers from the NZ intelligence agency- GCSB
If …… the Aust political elect can boldy state they knew this guy is trouble….
Then ask …. why did the NZ agency GCSB fail to alert the NZ political elect NZ police and immigration ?
All stated that this guy was not on any watch list …..
Aust hung NZ out to dry yet again …….
Time will tell how much “spine” there is. A quick word from her betters in the 5 eyes system will liekly put her back in her box. I hope not, but we have seen it happen before.
Where did you get right wing from. This dude was proudly left wing. A communist supporter. Get your facts straight
Either the latest anonymouse is one of those born every minute, or a disinformer.
On the contrary – I believe this was again one “false flag operation”, ordered to accuse anybody opposing The Global Masters: Serbs, and all the Balkans’ people, Russians, Austrians, frau Merkel, and more, and more… We can only hope that the number of killed is a lie, as there was a great doubt about this fact in earlier terrorism acts.
This was a good article overall. Some of the comments though are very disturbing. I find it interesting that many of these posters think it’s acceptable to celebrate the violence and destruction being inflicted on Europe and other “Westerners” saying they deserve it because “Westerners” attacked other people’s lands, even though they would be the first to condemn anyone who made the same vast generalizations towards Arabs or other groups. After all, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Jordan etc. have all supported al-Qaeda and ISIS. Does that mean that all Arabs or all Middle Easterners deserve to suffer terrorism as punishment? Should we urge Yemenis to carry out terrorist attacks against Saudi and Emirati civilians because their governments have invaded Yemen? It’s particularly ridiculous given that most “Western” countries were not even involved in these wars and yet are now being told that they are to blame and have to accept these “refugees” from the Middle East while countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. don’t accept any even though they’re much closer and have been directly bombing these countries and supporting terrorists there.
I’m Irish so I suppose I’m considered a “Westerner”, and it disgusts me how these people think that somehow we’re to blame for the fact that countries like America, Britain and France attacked countries in the Middle East. What are we supposed to do? We don’t have any more control over that than people in other parts of the world. A quarter of our country is still occupied by Britain. If we can’t even liberate our own country from British occupation, what makes you think we have the power to stop Britain invading other countries? The West is a region of the world that shares certain geographic and cultural links, just like the Middle or Far East. It is not monolithic. In case you haven’t noticed the two biggest wars in history were caused by different Western countries fighting against each other. Germany for example never colonised the Middle East and actually allied with Turkey against Britain and France during the First World War.
No one would generalise saying “Middle Easterners” deserve violence or “Orientals” deserve violence but apparently it’s ok to wish violence on “Westerners”, even countries that had nothing to do with these wars. Would you blame China for the actions of the Japanese Government, or Iran for the actions of Saudi Arabia? Blaming all “Westerners” for the actions of a couple of Western governments makes about as much sense. Even in the countries that have taken part in these wars, it’s not something that ordinary people were demanding their government take part in – quite the opposite. These wars have been organised by small numbers of wealthy people, mainly Zionist Jews like the Neocons, and they then use the power of the government and media to try and drum up public support for these wars by claiming they’re “liberating” these people from an oppressive dictatorship. Even with all their power, the propaganda is often not very effective. Over a million people protested against the invasion of Iraq in Britain – one of the biggest protests in British history, the government ignored them and invaded the country anyway. When France was getting ready to bomb Libya in 2011, an opinion poll was taken to see what percentage of the population supported it. Over 90% of France’s population was against bombing Libya, the government just ignored them and did it anyway. This is how “democracy” works in most European countries nowadays.
A similar situation existed regarding Spain’s participation in the invasion of Iraq. The prime minister who ordered Spain’s participation lost the next election in a landslide and went to work in a high-paying job as the head of Spain’s “Friends of Israel Committee”. Are ordinary Spanish people really to blame for the fact that their prime minister was a traitor working on behalf of a foreign government? Don’t you think it’s strange that when it comes to mass immigration into Europe, that your position is the exact same as the very politicians and media outlets that organised these wars in the first place? The Saker himself is from Switzerland – a Western country. Yet Switzerland is a neutral country that has not fought a war in over 200 years. Doesn’t really fit with the “evil Westerners who conquered and enslaved other people” narrative. The concept of neutrality in fact came out of Europe and Switzerland was the first country in the world to practice it. Up until it’s participation in the occupation of Afghanistan recently, Sweden had been neutral for almost 200 years. It never had any overseas colonies and never took part in the slave trade. But apparently Swedish children deserve to be run over by trucks merely for the crime of being of European ancestry.
In the case mentioned by Nick, the perpetrator was a fake “asylum seeker” from Uzbekistan who claimed that he had been arrested and tortured in his native land after falsely being accused of being a member of a terrorist organisation. His asylum request was rejected, but the Swedish government never bothered to deport him. After the attack he admitted he was a member of ISIS and said that the attack was in retaliation for the bombing of Syria – even though Sweden wasn’t involved in the bombing of Syria – that’s the level of ignorance you’re dealing with. Apparently killing any “Westerners” will do. It’s similar to how after the publishing of the Muhammed cartoons in a Danish newspaper, an angry mob in Afghanistan burnt down the Swedish Embassy. Apparently they didn’t understand that Denmark and Sweden are two different countries. It would be like if someone went to Algeria and killed a bunch of random civilians, then claimed that they were doing it in retaliation for the Saudi bombing of Yemen. How would that make sense? Just because they’re Middle Eastern too?
One anonymous poster wrote: “More like what do you think will happen if you invade other continents, commit genocide its natives, enslave them and then proclaim yourselves to be natives”. It’s ironic that this could actually be used to describe the Arab Muslim expansion that led them to take over the entire Middle East as well as North Africa and parts of Asia and Europe. The same arguments could be used to demonise almost any group of people. You could say the Turks and Hungarians from central Asia did the same, or you could list the atrocities of the Huns and the Mongols. Countries like Iraq, Libya and Syria were not always “Arab” and were actually mostly Christian before the Muslim Arabs conquered them. Yet no one today would say that this justifies killing these people or flooding their countries with millions of foreign immigrants.
Mass immigration from the Middle East into Europe and sending European armies to invade Middle Eastern countries are two parts of the same policy. It’s designed by Zionist Neocons to bring about what they call the “clash of civilisations” between Islamic countries in the Middle East and the (formerly) Christian West. Every al-Qaeda/ISIS terrorist attack will be used to drum up public support for more wars in the Middle East and every war in the Middle East will be used as justification for accepting more immigrants into Europe. That way the Jewish supremacists can use what they see as their two biggest enemies (Christian Europeans and Muslim Arabs) to destroy each other. They call this “constructive chaos”. Those of us on both sides have to be smart enough not to fall into the trap.
the west cited above usually refers to western governments who do not represent their people; but are compelled by washington to participate in washington s war s where ever they take place. Just not France Germany and UK.
Many european nations plus others have participated in the destruction of the middle east . Just not reported as such. And whether you like it or not Irish pilots particpated too wearing irish uniforms and your flag but flying for the Pentagon under pentagon orders. I have met them. They volunteered to do so.
Shannon airport is also a defacto US base as its a key transit point – to date – for millions of US troops to pass thru on their way to and from some war zones. Info from your shannon watch antiwar movement.
Ireland is a part of this western disaster as much as any other western government in one way or another regardless of claims of neutrality.
Its just your media like most media fail 100% to report what the political elect and appointed are really up too behind your backs.
Evil will continue while good people remain quiet…..
Nonetheless its good you have spoken up as debate is healthy.
The point also seemed to be about dismissive or blanket statements made irrespective of the western peoples of countries. i’ve seen the long corridors at Shannon airport active with USA troops en route, this doesn’t necessarily mean the Irish people deserve terrorist attacks.
Evil and negativity are highly pervasive factors, and may prompt reactionary statements when further thought might serve the common good of humanity.
Nobody is suggesting the irish deserve a “terror attack” .
(In fact I am not sure how you came to this conclusion from my comment in your “anonymous” point made.)
Evil will continue while good people remain silent ….. a well repeated and known comment – I have no claim to its authorship….
Isnt it time the vast majority of world citizens in some way woke up from their sleep walking and take a closer look at what their governments are doing or not doing ?
Most weak economies and less influential governments are being led around by the nose ….. unbeknown by their citizens…
Oh I’m not so sure. Ides of March/ St Patricks Day/ Purim . . . . .it could be a big week.
We may have misunderstood one another. I did not wish to refer to your comment as making blanket statements, but those made by others.
It can be difficult via electronic media, to covey in a few words a precise meaning in highly complex situations.
”I find it interesting that many of these posters think it’s acceptable to celebrate the violence and destruction being inflicted on Europe and other ’Westerners’ saying they deserve it because ’Westerners’ attacked other people’s lands, even though they would be the first to condemn anyone who made the same vast generalizations towards Arabs or other groups.”
Alieu, the point here is that the West is doing this as we speak The West is attacking (present participle) other countries continuously while its home populations delight in corporate fascist misculture which celebrates bloodshed, cruelty, and greed. On this basis, Westerners’ whining about immigrants, terrorism, and what-have-you strikes me as being 100% morally tone-deaf.
Many good comments here.
“the point here is that the West is doing this as we speak ”
I am in full agreement. The west general population is supporting this aggression and I don’t care whether it is pure ineptness or just lust for blood. Hollywood, MSM, comfortable living standards and demagoguery destroyed our souls and spirit and our lives. It’s shocking to observe such development.
We citizens of the west are the accessory to those crimes.
I get a kick out of those bumper stickers “support our troops”, is that oxymoronic or what.
Occasionally I join YV protest in small town near by. contrary to what one would expect none of the YV have a real understanding of what’s world about. When I convey what is common knowledge in this forum I get blank looks. Not even a bit of willingness to accept reality.
Brandon B mentioned situation in NZ, this stench is everywhere. You can run but you can’t hide.
We are doomed, I think only some supernatural event may save us.
Ps: sorry about my negativity and strong voice but that’s what I think.
alieu, your final paragraph understands it all perfectly, in my opinion. The Zionazis have been working for decades to set the West against Islam, with horrific consequences, overwhelmingly borne by Moslems, with millions murdered, maimed, widowed, orphaned and driven from their lands, and a number of countries destroyed and set back decades or even centuries. And, obviously, no sane person buys into this Zionazi hate campaign and blames ALL Westerners for the genocide committed by the ruling elites of the West, or ALL Moslems for the vastly lesser carnage caused by takfiri terrorists in Western and other countries. Those butchers are driven by Wahhabism, itself an Islamophobic genocide cult fostered and financed by the USA’s dear friends, the Saud Mafia family and its thuggish regime. And behind all this deliberate fomenting and fostering of genocidal hatred, the ‘Clash of Civilizations’, lies the Zionazi elite, a cancer on all humanity.
That the “action” (the German nazis used that term, and it fits) in Kiwiland was curated by deep or dark force, ie Imperial Intel agents, is visible to many. Including Herr Dushan Wegner, who (writing in German) wrote
(in re the “manifesto”)
“The manifesto of the Christchurch terrorist is a trap. The author calls himself “ethno-nationalist” and “eco-fascist” – at the same time. He wants to be quoted and split society. Too many but into his game, according to his plan.” (my own rough translation)
Full essay @ https://dushanwegner.com/christchurch-attentat-manifest/
Some excerpt in German>
“Der brutale Terroranschlag von Christchurch wurde schnell instrumentalisiert von jenen, die alles instrumentalisieren, man hörte es erst aus den USA, dann, als man aufwachte, in Europa. Machine translation: “The brutal terrorist attack by Christchurch was quickly instrumentalized by those who instrumentalized everything, you heard it only from the US, then, when you woke up, in Europe. – mod
Wer Debatte über bestimmte Ideen verhindern will, der wird den Anschlag eines rassistischen Anti-Demokraten und »ethno-nationalistischen Öko-Faschisten« für seine Zwecke zurechtbiegen, und dessen Motivationen wie Anti-Imperialismus, Arbeiterrechte und Umweltschutz wird man unter den Tisch fallen lassen.” Machine translation: Those who want to prevent debate on certain ideas will bend the attack of a racist anti-democrats and “ethnic-nationalist eco-fascist” for its purposes, and their motivations such as Anti-imperialism, labor rights and Environmental Protection will be dropped under the table.” – mod
Withal, it’s a GLADIO “action”….that serves the Dark Forces’ agenda. And this is obvious.
PressTV interview of Kevin Barrett>
“The gunman, who killed 49 people and wounded more than 40 during Friday prayers at two New Zealand mosques, has been mind-controlled by the 9/11 attacks false flag operation designed by Israel, a political analyst says”
It is an interesting idea.
Remote control or pre-programmed to trigger at a certain signal?
And where do the other three persons of interest fit in? One has been released .
It does make sense. The Christchurch massacre delivered a victory for those who want to stamp out ‘Islamophobia’, i.e. any criticism of Islam. The time when open profession of Christianity would be proclaimed ‘hate speach’ is close.
I forgot the url
Best (and sorry about the omission)
The crowd in attendance at a vigil at Auckland’s Aotea Square cheered loudly when Attorney-General David Parker said the Government would ban semi-automatic rifles.
They wasted no time in ramming home part of the agenda…and they always double…
After every shooting spree they want to take guns away from the people who did not do it, and thus make another shooting spree so much safer…for the deepstate and their criminal servants. But not for the innocent.
If I understand this correctly, a white, christian gunmen:
1.Shoots up a mosque, killing many worshippers including children.
2. Leaves graffiti in cyrillic (!) with the names if christian orthodox fighters who fought the ottomans and claims to have been “inspired” by them.
3. All this happens on the eve a Russian aircampaign offensive against ISIS in Syria…
And noone thinks this orchestrated at all?
I do not wish to minimise the loss of muslims lives in any way. I am just wondering who is really behind this terrorist attack.
Tel Aviv calling. A message for Jacinda Ardern?
he was an atheist, not a christian
It’s dupe, the dude was a dupe, patsy, set up, primed………………..so much manifesto bs, it reads like it was barfed up two minutes after he had breakfast, right after he ate the entire bottle of prozac. Doesn’t matter who or what he (was it him?) says he is, irrelivant, drivel. Orcastrated event.
In my opinion the massacre in Christchurch was a “false flag” operation like the terrorist attack in
Sydney on December 15, 2014.
Releasing the “Terror Genie”: Man Haron Monis and the “Sydney Siege”
Why I think that
1. The New Zealand atrocities prove that far-right terrorism is an organised, global threat
2. “I will Balkanize the US and ensure that NATO isn’t on Muslim side like it is on Kosovo”: The terrorist murdered 49 people and he announced vengeance for the death of thousands of Christians
” >> I will Balkanize the US and ensure that NATO isn’t on Muslim side like it is on Kosovo >>. The terrorist murdered 49 people and he announced vengeance for the death of thousands of Christians”
Sounds promising in a way. Just like his Norwegian soulmate, Tarrant brings deadly violence to Western societies and hence accelerate both their social decomposition and the waning of their ideological cohesion. Ironically, he thus achieves exactly what he is blaming immigrants, especially Moslems, for.
Still, the main lesson to be drawn here is that the West breeds psychopaths the way a mass grave breeds maggots.
Lol. I was born in the West. Are you calling me a maggot? Show the courage of your convictions.
This comment about “maggots” is exactly the type of hate that the Few seek to brew and foment. Congratulations, Nussiminen — they reeled you in.
Flopot, Nussiminen specifically referred to ‘psychopaths’-are you claiming to be one, in which case your umbrage would appear misplaced. Or simulated.
Amusingly, I guess I could get a jolly good beating for stating something quite catchy like Euro-trash of faggots and maggots, LOL.
No, quite obviously I didn’t call you a maggot or anything else, for that matter. The topic here was Tarrant who, in my opinion, personifies Western psychopathy, and the West breeds psychopaths like a mass grave breeds maggots. In case you were born and raised a maggot, an apology might be considered.
Netanyahu ‘told New Zealand backing UN vote would be declaration of war’
“Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told New Zealand’s foreign minister that support for a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlement-building in the occupied territories would be viewed as a “declaration of war”.
Then lo and behold . . .this happens
The massacres by “white supremacists” and “islamo fascists” are always very suspect. They are usually tracked and monitored; they move their armaments around with ease; and their manifestos for justifying murder are contradictory and full of gibberish. For example, their death sprees always have the opposite effect of the stated objectives — Muslims are villified when “ISIS” attacks; White Christians are demonised when White Supremacists go on the rampage.
We are witnessing a deliberate campaign to divide us. I believe all Western governments are complicit in these events — their spooks are used to stir us up and petrify us; then they sell us more wars abroad and draconian laws at home. Westerners are idiots to keep falling for these murderous false flags; to keep believing the crap they are fed by their media.
Also notice that these so-called “white nationalists” invariably support Israel. What a lot of crock.
Which country(s) have recently accused NZ of an act of war?
Calendar week 11 in 2019: New Zealand massacre: system served! Christoph Hörstel on the situation
Published on March 16, 2019
1. New Zealand: massacre: Muslims: 49 dead, 50+ injured
– streamed live on facebook – distributed via Youtube
– Cartels want: noise between Christians and Muslims
o Civil War – Right Scene: Assault Expected!
Share Muslims 2006-13 + 28%!
o Restrict civil liberties – assassinations help
o Censor social media more
o Weapons law tightened – system wants disarming!
– Massacre serves all FOUR wishes!
– Police appear after 20 minutes: Travel time: 1 minute: ?????
o no heavy traffic at the time of the massacres
– State complicity! – NZ = five eyes: USA-UK, AU, Can
– Offender comes from Australia: right-wing extremist, Islamophobic
4:21 – 2nd identity card with fingerprints
– All EU states: Freedom of choice
– Data protection warn: extension of state surveillance
– NM: further attack in chain against democratic order!
o constitution protection actually: system protection
o Constitution: daily broken, constantly undermined
5:50 – 3. Facebook: range restriction!
– Insider unpacking: responsible: data evaluator Seiji Yamamoto + boss: Eduardo Arino de la Rubia
– Censorship! Merkel cooperates coordinated:
o NetzDG, arvato, correctiv, Amadeu Antonio Foundation
– AfD only with Facebook approval so successful!
o Promoted by financial media mafia!
7: 57 – 4. My / our additional problems
– Banks: censorship by account termination
– GLS-Bank NO ethical bank!
– Faults: Mail, Mails, Telephone
– fraudulent lawyers: FOUR!
– corrupt courts
– Gunship failed – despite additional Mossad threat
– Mossad sees Germany as a backyard: ‘tens of operations / year!
– BDS activists: Gilad Erdan openly threatened with murder!
– 10:58 Nirit Sommerfeld (BiB) last Saturday:
11:34 – 5th Bank cleanup: 2016 – 2018: Role Vfs?
– if necessary: Vfs: incorrect allegations – sloppy research
– NRW: Allegation: non-profit humanitarian aid organization:
Cooperation with “Islamic Society”: 180! in Gaza
WHICH is lt. Vfs “the wrong”?
Difficulty: finding out details
– Refusal: to see mistakes
– Censorship + suppression of political commitment
– Whole procedure: reminiscent of dictatorships!
14:37 – 6th Lying – Abuse scandal: greater expansion
– Investigations went completely wrong
– 17 police officers under criminal investigation for child abuse, 16 out of service, 1 in Lippe!
– 34 victims, 14 suspected cases, 34 girls, 14 boys, 4-13 years
– 3 alleged perpetrators in custody, 4 others: investigations
– Dutroux !!!
– Government – Church ??
15:58 – 7th Catholic Church: Cardinal Marx, Pres. Episcopal Conference
– 3 topics: celibacy, church sexual morality, abuse of power
– NOT: political and financial corruption – context
– Total Razzia Vatican: Release!
16:57 – 8th UN Conference Kenya: Climate Protection – Geoengineering?
– Klimalüge – carte blanche: Poisoning of the population?
– “Desert Greening”: orgone technique v. Wilhelm Reich – Viktor Schauberger
– Technology Suppression !: Nikola Tesla, Walter Russell
18:08 – 9th Syria: fight for Idlib on a smaller flame
– Foreign Minister Meeting Ru-Turk. postponed again – ParsToday interview! https://tinyurl.com/y2d39ebt
– No reasons mentioned – fails summit on April 14?
19:03 – 10 Turkey: Ottoman Empire as an internal force
– never aggressive
– never at the expense of other peoples, nations
– old Ottoman Empire went under – just fine!
– now: Values Reflection: What does Turkey stand for?
o What kind of dealing with peoples, ethnic groups?
o dialogue? Military force? Anti-terrorism – T. Management?
21:48 – 11th Palestine
– Air strikes on Gaza, after TWO rockets from there
– No demo at the fence
– Israel determines who may go to Gaza – how much money into it
last payment is made from Qatar
23:17 – 12th Venezuela: further Washington measures
– Electricity & water ok again: Commission of Inquiry
– USA pressure on India wg. Oil from V: USA – even !!
– No UN decision on sanctions
o C-Ru-I: 3 weeks ago: do not follow!
24:17 – 13th CIA raid on North Korea Embassy Madrid
– Emergency: CIA can not obtain information otherwise
– habitual disregard of allies: Spain is no longer with us!
26:24 – 14. Resignation: Sahra Wagenknecht
– “Get up,” group chairman left
– organizational, political problems: no malice !: RESPECT
– New start within the system not possible! TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION!
– My second party founding: 4,000 signatures failed
You can change the subtitles to English
“Western governments have inadvertently given ultra-right wing elitist Fascists the green light to take the law in their own hands to “avenge” the terrorism of Salafist / Wahhabi / Jihadi terrorists . .”
Ghasann Kadi’s article pivots on a premise that the alleged NZ shooter, Brenton Tarrant, hails from some frustrated, white-supremacist, right-wing Trump fan-club. Far from it! Writing in his manifesto Tarrent proclaims that: “The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the people’s Republic of China.”
In short, Tarrant is a solid marxist. Further in his manifesto, Tarrant reveals his aim is to inflame antagonism to gun ownership, resulting in an American civil war and to “Balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.”
To be fair to Ghassan Kadi, Tarrant’s real opinions were not those portrayed, immediately thereafter, by a MSM anxious to attack President Trump on whatever grounds. When he asks himself about support of Trump, Tarrant replies: “As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
A lesson about this NZ atrocity is for Ghassan Kadi to verify MSM memes before tapping away on his word processor.
It is you who has not read his full manifesto, even Iran shares socialist values with China, that doesn’t make Iran an atheist state.
‘Stormy’- if you believe that crock of blatant psy-war disinfo, his supposed ‘Manicfesto’, is genuine, then I have an Opera House and Harbour Bridge that you might be interested in purchasing.
Has anyone considered our offender, a child of our technological social media driven world.
He makes a statement prior to the event advertising it to like minded and linked netbuddies. Look at me, I’m gonna defend “my” kultur like a hero.
He Livestream the event to look like a video shootem up game with him central…look at me, I’m a cool gamer.
He then fails to do the honourable deed for his Creed, become a martyr care of cops. Do that and he doesn’t get to parade himself as defending his Creed…that is to miss more self promotion, look at me.
Now he’s got our attention. This is not strictly cause driven terrorism. It is narcissism. It’s all about him. He’s used the technology and media brilliantly to focus us all in on him despite his patheticness.
I feel sick. Terrorism is a serious problem. Telling that every Christian is guilty of the NZ killing is like telling the Manchester attack makes every Muslim guilty of it. Generalizing that every terror attack is made by Christians is absolutely the same as saying that every terror attack is made by Muslims. It’s just a way to push an agenda and it kills any chance to get out of that mess.
The NZ killing makes the authorities in Western countries completely terrified. It’s being pulled under the rug violently. Openly discussing this horrible question would be a hard process. Very disagreeable things would come out. We would hate what would be discovered.
The alternative is other killings like the NZ one. The alternative is the burning down and probably killing of christians in Pakistan. The alternative is a civil war. Maybe it’s too late but we would have a chance to avoid it.
Muslims have been found playing the victim card. One comment explain the guy was in Atlanta and he felt targeted. That’s nonsense. In a terror attack you die because you’re at the wrong place at the wrong time. The perpetrators ignore who will be killed or it’s a planned operation against you personally. Shouts about the veil in France are saddening. I can play it the other way. In Egypt, a woman without veil is attacked as a whore. Therefore Muslims are all evil. See the danger of that game ?
Generalisations bring everybody in troubles. It takes a long time but it comes. Believing that a law enforced by humans can force everybody to be perfect has been tried several times in the past. The last try is the politically correctness. Another one was communism. They are other examples. Tell me which one it was a success.
These White Right/Nationalists and Islamic Jihadists are two sides of the same coin and have more in common than they want to admit.
In particular, both the White Right and the Jihadists are covertly backed and supported by Anglo American intelligence agencies to serve whatever sick agenda the Anglo Americans are pushing in terms of terror wars around the world or Operation Gladio-style “strategy of tension” within their own nations.
The White Right and Takfiri Jihadists are the Anglo Americans’ favored useful idiots and terrorist assets.
And which little cabal has its arm firmly planted in the back passage of the Anglo American puppets? Whose ideology seeks to have everyone else fighting among themselves?
Dollars to doughnuts that Tarrant was an Australian (and hence American) intel asset, whose “manifesto” was authored with a little help from the creative writing hacks at the CIA and designed to “bad jacket” by affiliation designated groups, ideologies, and nations.
Yet even after the false flag attack of September 11th, opportunists all political stripes still credulously accept at face value the factuality of these terror attacks and their alleged perpetrators.
Essentially, these attacks are the ultimate game of Political Hot Potato, as every political group will seek to tar rival political ideologies, faiths, nations as somehow linked to the attack or the perpetrator’s supposed belief system.
Let the Blame Game commence!
We have all watched ‘aliens’ or ‘enemies’ being dealt with by macho men through the auspices of Hollywood.
We have all listened to the rhetoric of hate spewed out by the Drainstream media, bowing to the One Per Cent.
Now and then some deranged individuals take it all as ‘gospel’
Know thy enemy. He wears a suit.
A serious question to the readers, has anybody seen the supposed live footage of Brenton Tarrant shooting inside the mosque?
I ask this because MSM, FB, Google, YT etc… has (obviously) avoided showing any videos… the best I could find is a 7min video of him and gun outside the mosque and inside the car without any gruesome footage of him shooting innocent worshippers with obvious blood signs – the MSM conveniently avoid this with all the Globalists false flags but often show other suspicious materials at the scene designed to send the audience the intended message.
I agree that most of the previous false flag events have been obvious e.g. very easy to find videos of the setup of the truck rampage in France – but this ‘shooting’ also has signs of being a hoax with some cryptic masonic messages and nonsense like the gunman went to the trouble of writing a 73 page manifesto… and how the MSM was quick to provide details of his trips abroad over the past few years. It sounds very scripted to me.
I also agree that the events appear to be designed to push buttons than for his actions to appear coherently linked.
To answer my own question, I managed to find the clearly fake videos on 153news (search new zealand).
It’s a definite fake as there is no blood pouring from the bodies of victims at the moment of the shootings. The blood only appears after the shooter retraces his steps on his way outside of the mosque.
Additionally, the shooter appears to fire at seemingly blank (no direct) targets when outside.
Educate yourselves, people. Don’t just accept this hoax you are fed at face value by our presstitutes.
If you also look closely at the MSM videos of politicians (PM Morrison) and police representatives (the two officers standing alongside Tarrant in court), there appears to be a lot of bad acting going on… to the point of the faces showing a hint of a smirk at various stages.
I have watched that video. There are head shots with red mist. There are involuntary movements of bodies otherwise lying still as they are hit. The absence of blood immediately upon being hit is not a great surprise to someone who has shot many hundreds of game animals over the last twenty years to preserve pasture. Red mist is expected in a head shot, but centre mass hits rarely produce significant bleeding outside the corpse, especially if they are kill shots to vital organs. Only when large veins or arteries are severed does significant bleeding occur immediately. Large amounts of blood from shooting injuries are an entertainment industry device to cater to the need for graphic images to shock the audience, whose average intelligence is not that great. Reality is quite different.
To be clear, I am no .gov stooge. I am deeply suspicious about the motivation of this individual and his pedigree as laid out in his “manifesto”. I think there is a lot more to this event than a single nutter expressing his own opinion.
However, this “fake” meme being pedaled is the biggest crock of excrement going around in this case. Not saying other events are not staged, but this one is the real deal.
eagle, as the entire ‘omniverse’ is actually a computer simulation of an highly advanced civilization, it all-the massacre, you, me and Uncle Remus, too-are figments of that civilization’s imagination.
Mulga, I am struggling to get the point you are trying to make with that last comment. Perhaps you might care to explain.
eagle, I was attempting, facetiously, to parody the likes of whatsisname who proposed that no-one was shot-you know, the fella you so cogently criticised.
Pls, look at the NZ farce – everything is absolute FAKE. No victims, no anything!
Thanks. I saw the links as well as some good analysis still showing on YT. Agree entirely.
More terrible acting from this 66 year old woman witness, courtesy of the MSM…
Very fake news!
There is plenty of fakery behind this, but the deaths are real.
That is the view from here in NZ
So I am guessing that you will be here in NZ today to witness the burials of all those empty coffins.
“NZ Threatens 10 Years In Prison For ‘Possessing’ Mosque Shooting Video; Web Hosts Warned, ‘Dissenter’ Banned”
Now why would the NZ “government” threaten draconian prison terms for anybody who happens to own video recordings of what really happened?
Trump Imposes Visa Bans on ICC Staff Probing US War Crimes in Afghanistan. — https://www.globalresearch.ca/thuggish-trump-imposes-visa-bans-icc-staff-probing-us-war-crimes-afghanistan/5671703
As if the ICC was not already a completely fraudulent stooge organisation of the USA. I wonder how that vile House Negress Aunty Tom Bensouda’s ‘investigations’ of Talmudistani butchery in Gaza are going? Nowhere, of course.
I have previously (parrhesiastes on March 16, 2019 )noted that the Kiwi “action” was an intelop of GLADIO nature. More on that has come to light. “Some of the world’s most deadly sharpshooters were in Christchurch when New Zealand’s worst ever terror attack unfolded on Friday, with NZSAS taking to the streets to help hunt the rampaging mosque shooter.” cryptogon.com This GLADIO action KIWI “GAK”?? sure looks curated… I can understand the prohibition of “the video”…but wonder if they fear a careful forensic examination of said video might expose that…the “action” was rigged and the “perp” a patsy…real, but a patsy…or even not real.
[now how about that, sound familiar?]
see> https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=54555 “While four people were arrested in relation to Christchurch’s mosque massacres, only one man, Brenton Tarrant, has been charged with murder.
What happened to the other three? And why were they suspects?”
” program designed to create a very anti-gun climate here—and that’s on the best of days. The average person here thinks a gun can explode and indiscriminately kill everyone in a 100 metre radius….If you are reading this from the U.S., beware: The goal of the shooter was to cause a crackdown on gun rights in the U.S.! His manifesto was clear on this point:
Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states? Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time. Whatever is actually going on with this incident, New Zealand is just the top of the iceberg.
“In other news: Due to conspiracy theories, make sure to get information about this attack ONLY from the government.” (!) Some of the world’s most deadly sharpshooters were in Christchurch when New Zealand’s worst ever terror attack unfolded on Friday, with NZSAS taking to the streets to help hunt the rampaging mosque shooter.”
“While four people were arrested…”
NZ herald reports,
“…Tarrant is accused of murdering a person (note singular), whose name (note singular) was suppressed…”
Also another coincidental (sarcasm intended) hallmark of FF,
“Some of the world’s most deadly sharpshooters were in Christchurch when New Zealand’s worst ever terror attack unfolded on Friday,…”
One cannot make this stuff up
Ps: some of these snippets of news disappear fast. Read it while you can.
I think here in NZ we are reacting to the situation a little differently than the rest of the world.
Moslems in NZ only makeup 1% of the population and so they have never been viewed as a threat to the general population. They are different from others but everyone is different in NZ so we all have to get along. Those that have been shot are thought of as our own and so their loss is our loss.
The reason the shooter murdered so many of our people is not important to us. He is clearly a nutcase and so how could a normal person begin to understand his reasoning.
If some sense can come from the situation, it will be to force the politicians to rid the streets of these semi automatic weapons. The purpose of such weapons is either to look macho or actually kill lots of people. Getting rid of these guns should have happened years ago when Australia did it. Maybe its why this guy chose NZ, easy access to dangerous weapons, instead of Australia to commit this terrible crime.
We had children return to school on Monday with class mates missing. Not good. I hope we don’t have to experience anything like this again.
You’re falling for a GLADIO/OP Amigo. No law becomes law in 6 days unless the operation was planned…
Nobody wants to accept the implications, which are that the NZ government was involved in murdering innocents in order to create consent for disarming the people who did not do it…while the State is not going to to disarm the cops, is it?
Hands Up! Surrender… Or accept that you are supporting the jailers and thugs…