I have recently informed you that the Dutch blogger Max Vanderwerff had posted a very interesting analysis debunking the Buk-M1 “missile plume” theory. Today I am posting his full research online which I encourage you to download from the following to locations:
Both of these services offers to read the PDF file online.
I think that it is absolutely crucial that we not allow the truth about MH17 to be buried under an avalanche of lies or be ‘forgotten’. By now, there is a lot of research which has been done, some of it excellent, some of it less so, but we absolutely must continue to keep this topic alive.
Please read this report and do your best to circulate it amongst your friends.
Kind regards and many thanks,
With all due respect, I doubt if this kind of analysis is useful in negating the effectiveness of the lies of Obama, the Western media, etc. It is too technical, requires too much effort to assimilate, and is too inconclusive.
Much better, it seems to me, is to concentrate on the irrefutable publicly acknowledged facts that provide overwhelming circumstantial evidence against the US-Ukraine case for Russian/Novorossyan responsibility.
For example, the fact that the findings of multinational crash inquiry cannot be revealed without Ukrainian authorization. LOL.
Or the fact that Malaysia was originally excluded from the multi-national inquiry even though it was their plane that was destroyed.
the refusal of the United States to provide its own satellite imagery of the area at the time of the shoot down.
The refusal of the Ukraine to release relevant air traffic control tapes.
And, of course, the obvious facts relating to motivation.
What more does a reasonable person need to conclude that the case against Russia and the Novorossiyans is Nazi-style lying propaganda, of which the United States and its CIA agents in Kiev are masters.
I am with CS up thread in this matter,plus other items namely,the US and Nato were conducting their exercises in the Black Sea with radar and satelite imagery galore.
Russia provided imagery,the US did not!,just the same old…..
“we know,but can’t tell because it is too sensitive” but they had already primed the tabloid gutter press to demonize the Russian people and their very popular President.
I posted on this blog months ago…
“The civilian black boxes,go from NAF hands to a Malaysian Colonel to Dutch Military…. to British Military and then to Farnborough in the UK….does that sound kosher to anyone ??”.
And the latest spin?
“The plane was just in the wrong place at the wrong time” ‘Voloshin’
Just an ‘honest’ mistake,could have happened to anyone,Right?.
Just Wikipedia ‘ Red Herring ‘.
A very sad way for anyone to die
I suspect US/Polish mercs are behind this obvious murder,using a
false flag to blame the LPR for it.
Remember that bank bailout/funds seizure legislation buried in that huge omnibus bill CONgress passed just a month after the mid-term elections brought ‘change'(more republipukes, fewer demonrats)–well, it’s about to payoff bigtime for the banksters!
such luck of timing.
And, Zerohedge points out, Citibank was the primary force behind the recent legislation passed by Congress – legislation that was buried into the controversial budget Bill – which allows banks to move their derivatives into their FDIC insured subsidiary. This legislation, by the way, is a de facto bailout-in-advance for the Too Big To Fail Banks. Remember, Obama promised no more bank bailouts. Once again he lied.
At any rate, it may of course be just a mere coincidence that Paulson was appointed to Treasury Secretary about 2 years before Goldman blew up on derivatives and Lew was appointed Treasury Secretary, well, about 2 years before Citi might blow up on derivatives…
This was part of the BASEL 3 proposals for dealing with these bad debts. All Western Countries with Banks large enough to impact the global economy had to sign on to the bail ins. Yes sure saves the pump and dump shale industry folks the latest get rich bubble coming out of Wall Street and invading the world.
I agree, this is too technical and also give too much credit to one photo of a little smoke. The photo on it’s own proves nothing, as evidence, no court on earth would let it into the court records. Simply because there is zero proof this photo shows what it claims.
BUT, let’s be real! We know hoe MH-17 was sot down. I knew it on the second day. Just look at the cockpit wreckage photos, and see the numerous 30MM cannon shell holes directed at the cockpit. PROOF! Second, listen to eyewitnesses recorded minutes after the crash. No human alive on that day saw a BUK contrail even as they watched the plane fall! PROOF. Many witnesses saw at least one fighter jet trailing the MH-17 and saw it break away after the MH-17 began to fall. PROOF. Other witnesses heard “machine gun like sounds” in the sky. Then saw the plane change course, loud bangs were heard, then the plane free falls. Humans, over a dozen report on video the very day of crash. PROOF.
Last of all. There is no doubt how the plane was downed. All those neat round holes of 30MM size around the cockpit are proof SU-25 gunned the cockpit. Also a section of wing was hit by 3-5 30MM rounds aimed at the cockpit, their angle and graze marks point to where the SU-25 was when it fired one burst.
There is no mystery. The wreckage tells all.
CS said…06 January, 2015 16:41
“With all due respect, I doubt if this kind of analysis is useful in negating the effectiveness of the lies of Obama, the Western media, etc. It is too technical, requires too much effort to assimilate, and is too inconclusive….”
Both the highly detailed deconstructions and the more general theorising is needed. Not just one or the other. Unless what one wants is to fail in the information realm.
“Or the fact that Malaysia was originally excluded from the multi-national inquiry…”
Malaysia was not just “originally” excluded from the investigation. It was totally and permanently excluded from it. A Malaysian plane, Malaysian airline, Malaysian pilots. But they can’t be part of the ivestigation. That is probably the biggest joke, along with the fact of Ukrainia having veto power over what gets reported. And the confiscated ATC recordings.
Both the highly detailed deconstructions and the more general theorising is needed.
I don’t disagree, but if you shove the detailed technical analysis at the public they will (a) be unable, with their mostly minimal attention span, to understand what it’s about, and (b) will be readily misled by the liars who plant plenty of false trails: Judy Woods and the mini-nukes or space lasers at the WTC, etc., etc.
So it is the arguments based on facts that are conclusively established in the public realm that really count in the battle for public opinion.
On 9/11, for example, NIST has been forced to confirm that Tower 7 fell at free-fall speed for several seconds, something that would have been impossible without explosives to clear the path. It is hammering away a such conclusive indications that can sway the distracted masses, not the minutiae that are difficult to verify.
It is highly likely Russia has voice recordings of the MH-17 being shot down, held in reserve should Ukraine release adulterated versions of their Air Traffic Control data. This might explain the silence of certain quarters and the conspiracy of silence that has fallen over the Ukrainian murder in the skies cooperatives. It was curious that a 4 to 5 minute gap appears between Ukrainian time and Russian time stamps (much like another famous 18 plus minute time lapse in certain White House tapes) just where their time stamps would be most identical. Whatever was within that 4 to 5 minute gap disappeared at MI6 operations in the UK, likely never to be revealed by official channels. A disclaimer of any direct or special knowledge is necessary here. The observation results from the difference in reported time of contact loss between Ukrainian and Russian reports in a business requiring highly coordinated time accounts. Something does not compute.
I know full well that the above article has little to do with the MH17 false flag operation, but it has everything to do with the big picture game and the Empire’s war on Russia.
The Western imperialists are in full panic mode and the their barbaric operation in the Ukraine is nothing but a last gasp and desperate attempt at delaying Russia’s inevitable return to superpower status.
Very simply put, their own energy reserves are fast running out, while Russia is sitting on one third of global oil and gas reserves. This fact will provide Russia with a massive advantage in the coming years and decades. Creating economic and security troubles for Russia via countries such as Ukraine, Georgia or the Baltics is the only way in which the AZ Empire can hope to at least delay the inevitable.
North American oil production is now literally bleeding.
Nothing is true, and everything is possible.
Video published: 16th July 2014.
Exif timestamp on photo: 16:25:48 17th July 2014.
The article is detailed and although probably amateuristic, it does set the standard for what the investigation team has to analyze, although I get the impression that the Dutch will not investigate this into detail but will present it as circumstantial evidence. I myself am afraid that the Dutch will even not try to see where exactly the plane was hit, which could exclude a separatist BUK unit (see your article a couple of months ago.
As for the ‘journalist’, Olaf Koens is the prototype anti-russian reporter. From the beginning of the military coup his reports were pro-Ukrainian and anti-Russian. The guy that pretends to be in danger at the front lines all the time, but basically is desperate to get any anti-Russian story. His reports are of no value to any investigation.
As a philosophical aside, is a journalist a legitimate target in war, when this journalist is part of the propaganda from the government? If your writings are part of the demonizing of a people, would that not be criminal? I can take of course the anti-semitic propaganda in the 30s, would the makers not be part of the genocide that followed? The West found it necessary to bomb the national TV station in Belgrade, killing I believe a dozen civilians and journalists. We did not think that was a problem (although military strategists know that it has no military goal). The capture of journalists by ISIS may also be seen in this context, especially now that we see that John Cantlie has turned sides and shows what really goes on in the Islamic State.
Another corroborating news item