This is the latest video from the Russian political analyst Ruslan Ostashko, this time in a somewhat different format from the familiar “Five minutes of Common Sense”. Donald Tusk has revealed the secret of Polichinelle. Poland, apparently, is in the EU only because Brussels is paying Poland billions of Euro every year. But when the funds stop (soon, it seems), then the Poles might be ready to conduct a referendum about the exit from the EU. We (the Russians) know the Polish mentality pretty well, but what would the Europeans say to that? Are they prepared to keep supporting Warsaw?
(press ‘CC’ to see the English subtitles)
what Donald Tusk says has about as much value as my farts after eating prunes
That’s about the highest value for what any of those politicians might say that hints of independence. They are as independent as the Anglo-Zionists will allow them to sound like. It is not much.
This seems BS.
The polskies will ‘never’ quit a situation where they can better feel a little bit safer from the big bear sniffing on their necks.
They need to experiment more of the usual harsher treasons and dis-compromises from their over-Atlantic ”friend” before learning the relevant lessons.
They will accept undergoing economic dumps, low incomes and endless suffering for two or three entire generations in the 21st century before they realize Warsaw can manage normal political and trade relations with the neighbor.
And pick up normal gains from it. Nobody can speed up this process.
Over history, it seems that Poland has been regularly threatened from both sides. Russia and Germany. Much of what is now Poland used to be German or Prussian territory. If the balance of threat shifts such that Poland feels more threatened from the German direction, they could easily switch again. And its the EU that is making Poland feel threatened from having to take in refugees, and it is the EU that is escalating its dispute over Polish internal matters.
Given the way the world works these days, I’d guess that a part of the anti-Russian feeling is whipped up by politicians and the media to keep people from realizing from which direction their problems are coming.
So far, the trend is that as countries become a part of the EU and start to feel the impact of decisions made in Brussels with little or no democratic input from the countries involved that those countries become less enamored with the EU and start to think of life after the EU. At which point, Brussels always resorts to threats, bullying, intimidation and other strong-arm tactics.
The russian threat is the same like the nazi threat from Germany.
Old ghosts in the mionds of many polish ppl. Fed by Brussles in order to keep them slaves of Brussels.
Was the last word of the CC an intentional pun? ” Good buy” either way…good one!
The zionazi masters of poland will allow them to leave the zionazi eeeuuu? Get real, zio-banana republics like poland are what make the zionazi world go round. Or more aptly, flat.
Very true. The Jewish Mafia didn’t create the World’s largest prison complex, the EU, just for giggles.
Greece didn’t get very far with their Grexit fantasies, did they?, and even proud Albion’s Brexit is still hanging head over heals in thin air. What to say about Poland prospects of doing a triple salto and landing on an egg without crushing it? Wise up, Ruslan!
‘worlds largest prison complex’? This is laughable…and smacks of not just a skewed understanding of life in Europe but one learned from a screen more than through first hand experience.
Europe and the EU have problems. Most countries have similar problems. And yes whether in Israel Iran US France of Italy or England…some of those problems have the same design and root.
Yet life in plenty of areas of the EU remains much better than in many other regions of the planet where humanity dwells in large numbers.
A decent life can still be led. Which isn’t to call it a paradise but the largest prison complex in the world? That’s plain nonsense. The horrid irony is that imprisonment, here in England at least, is becoming ever harder to achieve…better to leave swine on the streets than have to pay for their food and shelter inside. Steady erosion of public sector will continue…capitalism is more the cause and the powers pulling those levers, which yes yes of course some of which have their own ugly agenda…
Well buddy, EU is a prison complex. Try to leave it without huge monetary penalties. Classic carrot and the stick.
I move often between the UK and Australia, as have both passports. I have traveled fairly extensively always on the dirt cheap throughout my life, south east Asia, north africa, eastern and western and southern Europe, India, Sri lanka…all without earning big bucks, all with working in both UK and Australia in jobs which required few qualifications…So I have pretty much found myself able to travel where I wish, for lengthy periods, found work, enjoyed public welfare system, good standard of living compared top many areas…yes yes, cost of emigrating to Oz for example, where living standards by every measure but depth of culture of the citadel areas and intelligence are hugely superior to many other countries/systems on earth, costs a lot of $. Yet other than anarchists, i am unsure of any system which would allow borderless settling and moving, which is a fanciful idea with zero proven success stories…
As far as the EU itself is concerned, free movement is engrained into the EU foundations, with goods services and capital…and there are plenty of hugely varied cultures. there is no homogenisation of cultures of centuries colour and feel and history. Everywhere in the world there is a downward spiral, its a natural consequence of the industrial revolution and capitalism. Yet its simply false to suggest that the EU is akin to a giant penal colony…many people there thrive, enjoy a great life, many dont. Like most places on Earth.
No point in comparing EU countries to some third world entities which people can hardly find on the map. The EU is a copy of the American federation. Both the EU and US have central banks run by private bankers, known as banksters. Look at European countries before they joined the EU and now, after they joined. How many have horrendous foreign debts ? And little Greece ? More than 300 billion dollars in debt. Greece never really wanted to join up, being bullied into joining. The EU is a private empire run of private banksters. It was created to destroy the sovereign status of sovereign countries. A day will come when historians are going to have a tough time explaining how all this happened. And yes, the EU will collapse in the end. The euro, like the dollar, is being printed backed by nothing.
To blame capitalism is naive. Capitalism rewards hard work. You reap what you sow. Many of the largest companies in the world were started by little more with little more than a few dollars and a dream . I work in construction where companies like Grocon , multiplex were started by tradespeople willing to work hard with little more than a ute and the clothes on their back and have now grown into billion $ companies.There was a ladder you could climb on a even playing field . Where the problem lies is through corporate greed and the corruption of government. In Australia this has been managed through “Free trade agreements “. Businesses in Australia need to pay minimum wages , $21 per hour, supperannuation 9%, holiday pay app.6 weeks with public holidays and workers compensation of 4% . Roughly $35 per hour per person “minimum “ which is fair to protect our standards of living. With Free trade agreements we now have to compete with companies who are legally allowed to purchase from foreign companies who use slave labor and live in third world conditions. The larger companies are sacking thousands of local employees and shifting manufacturing, services offshore. Smaller companies have to follow suit just to survive even if they don’t want to. It’s a snowball effect. Local people are finding it harder by the day to purchase necessities like a home where in Melbourne the medium house price has risen to over $800000. To counter this our government has opened real estate markets to overseas investors, mainly Chinese , which in turn forces prices even higher.
The EU structure is no different to our free trade agreements. Every country is unique in living standards,religious beliefs which need to be represented by local government. The EU has exploited these differences and makes all decisions above local government. The poorer nations in the EU get work at the lowest prices. Does there standards of living rise? My guess is not much while the larger corporations make record profits. Ask yourself has the price of an iPhone or Nike runners gone down ? Even though these products are manufactured in third world countries. No just more profit.
So yes I would agree with _smf. The EU is the worlds largest prison where each country, ie you, have literally no say in your legislative future.
Well, we went three or four whole comments before the racist hate-the-Jews and blame the Jews for all of the world’s problems nonsense began.
Debatable. In Europe history plays a very important role. It was a combined German-Polish army which defeated the Turks during the second siege of Vienna in the 17th century. Poles still remember this. In fact, they are constantly reminded of this by the EU, which wants to flood Poland with false refugees. In politics anything is possible, as proven by history.
I don’t understand that great help of funds – while Polish engineers and professors drive taxies or work as constructors, and the Polish ladies serve as whores? I’m sure all this help is shared between those who “give” it, and those who distribute it. Some small amount comes to NGO and “correct” media. If anything is invested anywhere – be sure it is the money-washing.
spot on. I see that you have your first hand observations from the land once saved europe for 1st time from the turks back in 8th century. unfortunately this land is now toxic and perverted and almost destroyed by its ellites.
No my guess is nothing will come of this. While Tusk and Kaczyński hate each other, that doesn’t mean they can’t join forces for a classic good cop bad cop play on the EU. In other words, Tusk is trying to shake down the EU for more money by pointing to the rantings of the current ruling party.
I doubt they will do this as many Polish people work in EU countries. They couldn’t stand to lose this.
N they wont leave the EU. This is hysterical Doomspeak. Hundreds of thousands of Poles live in different EU countries making good money they send home. The EU funds many development projects badly needed in Poland. ( I traveled the in the 80’ties and could hardly believe that the third world excisted less than 300 Km from the Danish border). What they have done in Poland is in congruent with a Western democratic society, with any democratic society, so therefore the EU is in it’s fair right.
They will come to their senses, the cant fund their Nato ambitions without EU money, and they are scared of the Rooskies. It is like a mental illness with them.
No, I don’t particularly like them at all, far to many live here in Sweden. Their fling with Fascism is hero worshiped in Poland today, Pilsudsky and Rydz-Śmigły were first class fascists right up there with Franco and Pinochet.
In all honesty many of these nations from mid Europe have very bleak period from1900 to the outbreak of WWII, the represent some of the worst regimes ever.
Back to topic: They will stay at the tit that feeds them.
Dear Abe, I guess your Polish experience is as old-fashioned as my Swedish experience. As a stranger living part time in Poland, comparing to what I read about crimes and rapefugees in Sweden, Poland is heaven. The silly Swedes inviting millions of foreigners to destruct their homeland for me are much worse than the more smart Polish people that allow foreigners like me living in their country only after being checked not to be a burden for their country. The whole of Scandinavia for me seems to be a shithole today, compared to living in Poland in the way we previously mentioned “Leben wie Gott in Frankreich” (living like God in France), today it reads “living like God in Poland”. So please dear Swedes first clean up your own country. Sitting in a glass house (or green house), you should not throw stones.
“The silly Swedes inviting millions of foreigners to destruct their homeland for me are much worse than the more smart Polish people that allow foreigners like me living in their country only after being checked not to be a burden for their country.”
Well, not exactly. The EU maintains the influx of migrants/refugees with the ultimate aim of destroying whatever remains of the welfare state. Sweden’s government is just a despicable mouthpiece of foreign diktat here. Has no national considerations wahatsoever. Poland will be forced to make up her mind as well.
You must be earning big and shine enough in poland.
I thought a lot about writing something smart, but no. You obviously felt the jab when I wrote I did not particularly like Poles and you responded about Sweden being a shithole, OK a shithole it might be in your eyes, but its our shithole!
When I was young there was a man there was an inspiration to many of my generation, workers and socialists, he is Polish, his name is Lech Walesa and organization was Solidarity
Latino seems to be a German Latino. Since Latino is able to read and understand the German language, he should check well known web sites advertising the services of females in the sex biz. He’ll be surprised at the amount of Eastern European girls offering their bodies for sale. Personally I don’t know about the statistics, but I guess the amount of Polish girls in that biz is still amongst the top ten, whilst hardly any Swedish woman is in this field of work. Maybe those statistics could offer some conclusions about the economic situation of the respective country those women are from.
Den Lille Abe
You have to distinguish EU countries and the EU. The EU as such is not a country. Yes, many Poles live and work in EU countries, making more than they would in Poland. And yes, Poland had benefits from the EU, which is no big surprise, bearing in mind what the state of it’s economy was during the communist period (not as bad as some people might think, but inferior to that of Western Europe). Poland is now an EU member. It is also a NATO member. As far as I can see, people in Poland are having second thoughts. The EU wants to flood Poland with false refugees, while NATO wants Poles to fight the Russians for the benefit of Wall Street. These are not good ideas as far as Poland goes.
Poland is the welfare recipient of donor countries.
Using the neo-liberal approach of handling such matters: They should stop wailing about taking in refugees. Since they’re the ones getting handouts they’ve to do as their masters want.
Haha, it’s plain to see that Winston Churchill’s verdict on the Psheks — greedy hyenas — was absolutely spot on. Also, they are some of the most deluded dullards on the planet. Like the Greeks, they are too proud of their Europeanness to mount any resistance to their Western overlords, even as the latter are ultimately going to swamp their beloved Poland with torrents of refugees. So, no: there ain’t gonna be a “Pshexit” any time soon. In Gownopolska any inconveniencies can and will be found to have originated in the Kremlin, LOL.
Proud of their being Europeans? They are just intruders on territory that was inhabitated by Europeans before their arrival. They do not even speak a language that originated in Europe. And considering that in about 1400 years of neighbourhood the Germans adopted hardly more than two polish words I doubt very much that they are on their way to becoming a bridge between east and west.
Good luck explaining that to the Psheks, a.k.a. the world’s most underrated Latin Christians.
Gownopolska über alles, LOL.
Yes, Ruslan has said it all. When Poland renounced communism, it needed Western funds for improving it’s infrastructure, which was not as bad as some people like to present it. Poland did benefit from EU funds. It benefited even more from trade with EU countries. It also benefited from trade with Russia. Poland is a member of the EU. It is also a member of NATO. For Poland,a very dangerous position to be in. The EU is facing economic difficulties, with the euro printed backed by nothing. NATO expects Poland to fight Russia in a potential war. Not wise for Poland, as Poland is close to Russia, while Washington DC is far away.
As one analysts has stated, Poland needs to find itself. The country has had unfortunate relationships with both Russia and Germany. The fact that Poles are Catholics first and Poles second (in many cases) does not help matters. The Vatican, and others, have used Catholic Poles against Orthodox Russians.
A time will come when Poles will understand that their geography gives them a unique chance of being a bridge between East and West. They can profit from both. However, will the EU and NATO permit them to do so ? I think not. They will have to wait, unfortunately, before both break up. The EU is on the way to do so, while NATO is not too far behind.
The Poles will leave and so will Hungary. Together with the Czecks after the liquidation of the RU friendly Czeck president Zamen the US hopes to sponsor into being a eastern European competitor to the EU and wall against Eurasian integration. I think they will deep six the Belorussian first and then drop Zamen.
OJ Simpson was framed for murder the weekend of the opening of the World Cup in the US. For a year prior to this event male sports like gridiron basketball and baseball had been off US televisions due to player strikes over pay disputes.
OJ Simpson was framed to capture the viewer attention rather than allow sports followers to become aquainted with the world game of football.
What (Removed language,MOD.) is ‘gridiron basketball’? Genuinely curious, I’m American and have never heard of this.
It is Easy to say, but Hard to accomplish.
Poland Is Now One Of The Best Nations In Which To Be Jewish
Despite the Western narrative that suggests Polish anti-Semitism is rampant, Poland is one of the best – if not the best – nations in Europe in which to be Jewish today.
Jews are very interested and support the N.W.O, and EU is part of N.W.O
For any nation that gets in the EU, chanced are slim or none to get out.
Lisbon Treaty, international agreement that amended the Maastricht Treaty, Treaties of Rome, and other documents to simplify and streamline the institutions that govern the European Union (EU). Proposed in 2007, the Lisbon Treaty was ratified by most member states in 2008, but a referendum in Ireland—the only country that put the Lisbon agreement to a public vote—rejected it on June 12, 2008, thus jeopardizing the entire treaty. More than a year later, on October 2, 2009, Ireland held a second referendum, which passed. Poland’s government also had expressed reservations, but it ratified the treaty a week after the Irish vote.
Article 50, which allows a member state to withdraw, was originally drafted by Scottish cross-bench peer and former diplomat Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, the secretary-general of the European Convention, which drafted the Constitutional Treaty for the European Union. Following the failure of the ratification process for the European Constitution, the clause was incorporated into the Treaty of Lisbon which entered into force in 2009.
Prior to this, no provision in the treaties or law of the EU outlined the ability of a state to voluntarily withdraw from the EU. The absence of such a provision made withdrawal technically difficult but not impossible.
Legally there were two interpretations of whether a state could leave. The first, that sovereign states have a right to withdraw from their international commitments; and the second, the treaties are for an unlimited period, with no provision for withdrawal and calling for an “ever closer union” – such commitment to unification is incompatible with a unilateral withdrawal.
The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties states where a party wants to withdraw unilaterally from a treaty that is silent on secession, there are only two cases where withdrawal is allowed: where all parties recognize an informal right to do so and where the situation has changed so drastically, that the obligations of a signatory have been radically transformed
Lets return on this subject in a little more than a year and see how Brexit is doing, apparently the Brits did do did they not ?
But of anything is possible in a 2 party state. Look at the US. Democracy ? Puurrr-leeeezze! Two sides saying the same thing with different words, two sides working intently for their corporate masters, with no accountability or respect for the people that elected them. Complete F. shambles and sham. Houdini politics. But the serfs accept it and even cheer it on, in one nation it is shrouded in Patriotism and in other in misty remembrance of King and Empire, and both nations steer straight ahead full speed, their ordinary citizens getting poorer by the day.
But be my guest, carry on.
In the meantime, I prefer to take my chance in Sweden, Sweden which was overrun by Jewish refugees in October 1943, Sweden which was overrun by Hungarian refugees in October 1956, Sweden that was overrun by Russians , Poles in the 70-80’ties, Sweden that was overrun by Turkish guest workers in the 80’ties, Sweden overrun by Slavs, Croats, Bosnians in the 90’ties, Sweden that was overrun by Danes 2001-2004, Sweden that was overrun 2014-2017 by Somalis, Syrians, Afghans.
Sweden has been overrun since time immortal, Sweden has been a recipient of refugees from wars Sweden did not instigate or take part in, for a very long time. Sweden is still standing,and it will also stand in a century. Still standing as a unified Sweden, distinctly Sweden. Because our culture, the deep foundations, of who we are, are not uprooted easily, they are changed because someone wears a hijab, or whose first name is Milos or Abdull.
Predictors of doom and gloom are predominantly American commenters, whose understanding of cultural roots are linked to the color of your skin and nothing more in reality. ohh yes Patriotism. That’s it, it is not rootet much deeper than that, and when they look inward they find they have taken their old country’s culture with them and added very little.
Is that the case in Sweden? No it is not. Abdull from Afghanistan will take a generation to become Swedish, but it will inevitably happen, just as it always has, and in a generation Syrian Saya will have shed her hijab and married Croatian Maric, and will celebrate Valborgs Evening as all other Swedes.
Well, I live in Sweden, too, as an immigrant, and it’s nothing like the country I moved to. It’s not quite the shithole referred to above, but parts of it are, and those parts are growing in number. Yes, Sweden has taken tens, even hundreds of thousands of immigrants over the past half century, but those immigrants were generally culturally compatible.
Now, not so much.
We have gang rapes. We have daily shootings, weekly bombings, car fires the length and breadth of the country, 61 No-Go Zones, up 15 in a year, knife crime in schools, our daughters harassed going to school, in school, and coming home from school. We have armed robberies. We have increased street crime. We close maternity wards because of lack of funds, but build 4 asylum centers in the same region. Our elderly are among the poorest in Europe, the number below the EU poverty line increasing from 250,000 in 2016 to 355,000 in 2017. Health care is collapsing. Police are leaving the force in record numbers. We have the second lowest wealth after Portugal of any country in the EU. Our courts refuse to jail criminals, even for the worst offenses, if they even get to court – refer to the gang rape of the wheelchair bound woman in Gotland. Our taxes are increasing. And all to pay for fake refugees who lied about their age, men pretending to be boys, who crossed the European continent to get to Sweden, while ignoring all those asylum possible countries in between.
You may be prepared to wait 30 years for Abdull from Afghanistan to become Swedish. Personally, I don’t think we have 30 years. The UN has us marked as 3rd world sometime in the 2030s. So what happens then, when the money runs out? What happens when a whole underclass well fed on the tit of entitlement no longer has any money?
No, Sweden isn’t a shithole, right enough; it’s just racing to hell in a handcart.
Its funny I had this discussion with another “Swede” you can read further up in this thread, he/she never returned when I refuted their claims, I on the contrary actually live here, care to tell what län you live in ? Because what you tell is not what is available in the news that is available to me. Our elderly being poor, nice one. Care too document this preposterous claim ? And if you do, be so kind to back up you other claim about the UN too ? I am bigly interested in these claims, because I should maybe sell my houses and move back to Denmark or maybe Norway, people tell me even Trump is fond of Norway..
I am still eagerly awaiting a reply fellow “Swede”..
Du kan jo bara enkelt give en svar på den fråge, jeg har ställt till dig
Made the reply request in Swedish to make it easier, in case you had a problem with English grammar.
Det är bara att läsa domstolsptotkollen och exempelvis tidningarna i södra sverige så får du bilden av gängvåldtäkter mm. Jag har dem på fil om du vill ha dem. det finns statistik på att svenska pensionärer har det sämst i skandinavien. Vi har minst antal sjukhusängar i europa. tyskland flest per invånare.
“The time has passed when the Soviet Union, as the Russian Empire before it, invested in Poland and other countries enormous funds in order to show everyone how good it is to be friends with the Russian Empire or Soviet Union.”
The Russians were getting only 1 ruble for every 2 rubles invested in Poland?
How then, are the Anglo-American-Zionist elites able to profit from their ties to Poland?
How do these relationships compare to the partnerships that China wants with countries interested in the new silk road?
I’m French and like 80% of my compatriots, I pray for that.
Ho please God, make this dream come true: Polexit.
And could they bring with them Romanians and Bulgarians.
These land is THE reason why UE became a mess.
They take our money, they take our jobs, they send us their beggars, their creeps, their riffraff and they buy US weapons. They make the whole UE in danger with their hysterical russophobia.
Without this sh… and without UK, UE can become something interesting. Out!!!
Put my previous posting on, mod!
I’m Romanian and I was insulted by this guy’s posting that you let through… It’s my right to reply.
He might just be a planted agent, still… let the general public decide who’s wrong here.
The trashing of us, peoples of Easter Europe, has been going on for a quarter of a century already (well, in fact a lot much more!) – somebody has to step up and say it out loud! It’s not just Russia and the West: we exist too!
I even gave you may real name: what’s stopping you?!
Don’t be insulted, though I understand. Truth to be told the East European countries should not have been let into the EU, yet. This was a long discussion the British won in the EU, because they feared Germany’s growing influence. I will not point fingers as such, I did point out the Poles, because of the Fascist past, that they still celebrate, but both Romania and Bulgaria has some way to go before they are at EU level. But you are passing Greece soon, way to go.
Thanks, but no, it’s not about that.
There is a missing posting where I replied to that “French” guy. I don’t even think he is really French.
But my point still is: enough with this – that we are not up to Western standards!
Really? How do we “steal” their jobs then? Did you ever encounter a “westerner”? (It’s rhetorical, I know: you are one of them.) They are mostly cheats with smiles on their faces.
Do you know what’s happening now with all of the Western economies? Who are responsible for this, who are the big criminals? We are?
By the way, you are way off here concerning the “way to go before they are at EU level”.
Romania and Bulgaria had a lot more and tighter stricter rules to comply to before EU accession than any country had before, exponentially more!
In fact, they were asked to completely slash their national economies and social system. If you mean the “EU level” is sea level zero then yes, they complied!
Easy there , nobody , least of all my self is accusing anybody of stealing jobs, you point fingers at the Brits but hardly at the Swedes. The Irony in Britain is though, that their own workforce dont want the jobs, because they are measly paid, and who allowed that: The British government. The Brits are idiots and serfs, obeying their ruling class. I just wish they would STFU and get out of the EU. They are always moaning and whining.
Yes nationalities… people often fake that, most contributors here are probably American, the site is not well known in Western Europe. Live with it and challenge those you suspect are full of bs.
Ohh I have to run now, riots in the street, its those pesky Muslim immigrants again that want to rape some more Swedish men and kill some women.. /s
Q: What’s the most striking similarity between a Pshek and a Pindo?
A: Both are proud to have an utter imbecile named Donald T. to make their country great again!
If Poland leaves the EU, would Poland continue supporting the Anglo-American-Zio meme that Russia is the enemy. Would Poland also continue to agitate against Germany by playing “victim” status and by bringing up tiresome WW 2 reparation demands. How does leaving the EU help or hurt Poland’s relationship with Ukraine? The Polish elites have no friends in the rest of Europe.
The Polish people need friends and good neighbors. What can the crumbling Empire offer it? NATO bases don’t add much to the Polish economy, or do they?
No Chance for POLEXIT, unless…
They wont allow it
The polish people dont know it; but each country in the Eu remains a slave state and ultimately a dumping place of muslim and african refugees of Brussels even when you leave it.
Look what is happening with the Brexit. You cant call it a Brexit anymore according to Nigel Farrage own words in the Eu parliament (see youtube)
Hey, mod – I see you did not bother to let through my responses to Nussiminen’s posts. That is thoroughly baffling as you are totally happy to allow posting of slurs (“psheks”, “gownopolska”) but will not allow my posts which call him out on this. Neither of my two posts which were blocked was offensive, used derogatory language or slurs. I suppose this lets me know where I stand as a Pole on this portal. Shame, I am very much in favour of mending (and expanding) relations with Russians but your moderating stance is just the final prompt that we are not welcome here; Saker made his very dim views towards the Poles abundantly clear before. Again, a real shame as I value this portal but I cannot abide your anti-Polish bias and I am not talking about attitudes to the government in Warsaw, no, you support disdain for Poles as a people and that is a bitter disappointment. Seems that by doing that you only serve and perpetuate the Atlanticist approach (driving the wedge between Slavs) which you pretend to so vehemently criticize. Two sides of the same coin, I guess. It’s one thing to lambast politicians (I would probably join you), another completely to promote disdain for an entire nation of people, most of whom see themselves as your friends to make it even sadder.
With that I shall sling my hook and seek my fortunes elsewhere. All the best.
not sure which posts you referencing as we have about 4-5 mods covering the 24 hour period. However I would guess that the key line is ‘not allow my posts which call him out on this’. Our policy here is to discuss the ideas and events of the day. When two commentators begin to attack each other we stop the exchange … we are striving for exploration of ideas and events and not to fault other commentators. … mod
First of all: Tusk is pro-EU and when he was PM like crazy follows all EU polices, law and was ready to do anything to please the masters of EU (after all his position in EU wasn’t for free). BTW he ran away from Poland because his family was involved in a big airlines scam, so he was about to be convicted for a financial crime. The commentator is saying about the money, but does not mention that Poland is contributing a significant amount of money to EU budget. This money are not for free. I would prefer to leave as soon as it possible for two reasons: 1. is financial disaster of EU zone (EU borrowing money like crazy). 2. I don’t feel comfortable to pay 2 governments.
Yes, a lot of Polish are working in EU, it’s very cheap labor. I would like to add one more thing for this calculation: in Poland the education is free. Excuse me ALL polish people are spending their money, in form of taxation, to educate the young people. And after the finish, young people they are leaving the country and paying the taxes in another countries! Polish are putting a lot of money andeffortd to educate young people and getting nothing in return. West did not spend any money on them and have ataxpayerr and work force.
For the previous government it was a great deal – young people, who couldn’t find a job they were leaving the county, instead of changing the politics or make a revolution in the country. They just got rid of revolutionary crowd.
In Eu the battle is about money – who will cover all EU spending. UK don’t want to do it anymore. If country by country will start to leave EU there won’t be anybody to pay the bills. That’s why UK recived huge bill from EU.