UK police say couple in Wiltshire contaminated with same substance as Skripals
British authorities are saying that the couple that is currently in critical condition in Salisbury hospital was exposed to the same substance as Sergei Skripal and his daughter in March.
UK counter-terrorism chief Neil Basu said that the substance was ‘Novichok,’ the same one that the UK claims the Skripals were poisoned with. He said that police did not know how it was transmitted. The affected people are both British and in their mid-40s, and Basu said there was nothing in the pair’s background to suggest they would be a target, yet their connection to the Skripal case is being investigated.
Earlier, Wiltshire Police declared a “major incident” in the town of Amesbury, around 12 kilometers from Salisbury, over a man and woman, both British in their 40s, being hospitalized after “suspected exposure to an unknown substance.”
The pair was discovered unconscious in a property in Muggleton Road on Saturday, but Wiltshire Police did not report the incident until Wednesday. The UK’s chief medical officer said during the press conference on Wednesday that the risk to the general public from the Wiltshire case was low.
“This evening I’ve received test result from Porton Down [laboratory] that show that the two people have been exposed to the nerve agent ‘Novichok,’” Neil Basu said, adding that it has been identified as “the same nerve agent that contaminated Yulia and Sergey Skripal.”
Basu, who was recently appointed as Head of Counter Terrorism, Assistant Commissioner of Specialist Operations (ACSO), has said that some 100 detectives of the counter-terrorism force have been scrambled for a joint investigation with local police.
Police have yet to determine if there is any connection between the March poisoning and the incident in Amesbury, Basu said, noting that “the possibility that these two investigations might be linked is clearly a line of enquiry for us.”
It is not known if the substance that the British pair was exposed to “was from the same batch” that the Skripals were allegedly poisoned with, Basu stressed.
British Home Secretary Sajid Javid has announced he will preside over a meeting of the government’s emergency committee on Thursday. He praised the “tireless professionalism” of Salisbury Hospital staff and said the new incident “follows the reckless and barbaric attack which took place in Salisbury.” Javid asked that the police be “given space” to establish the circumstances of the new incident.
The Novichok questions
While Basu noted that the investigation into the Skripals saga is still ongoing four months after their mysterious poisoning on March 4, the British government had determined a culprit right off the bat, blaming Russia mere days after the former double agent and his daughter were discovered slumped on a bench in Salisbury.
Russia’s refusal to give in to the British ultimatum and admit its responsibility without seeing some kind of proof first has led to a major diplomatic crisis, with the UK and its allies expelling over a hundred Russian diplomats. Moscow, which responded in a tit-for-tat manner, demands that London provide access to the materials of the investigation or at least present compelling evidence of Russia’s role in the case. However, the British side has repeatedly refused to cooperate with Moscow, demanding it first admit its guilt.
In the meantime, the list of unanswered questions is growing. It is still unclear how the Skripals managed to survive after being exposed to a supposed “military-grade” nerve agent. The UK’s refusal to give Russian diplomats access to Yulia Skripal, who is a Russian citizen, has also raised suspicions, with some Russian officials speculating that London fears the truth might come out if she were to speak freely.
Saker Commentary: for the life of me I cannot see how the British government is going to spin this one without looking totally stupid. If they try the “highly likely” road, they are going to be the laughingstock of the planet, but if they say anything else, then they are signing the death warrant to the entire Skripal false flag. Frankly, I have absolutely no idea what is going on, maybe a disgruntled employee from Porton Down, who knows? Or maybe this is some kind of desperate ploy by the British authorities to extricate themselves from the clearly FUBARed Skripal false flag. In any case, it sure look to me like the entire Skripal fairytale is coming tumbling down and I hope that the MH-17 false flag will be next. Along with the entire British government.
I decided to check out how the BBC reported that story. And, I found this:
I did not think that the BBC could sink any lower, but apparently they can!
UPDATE2: even if the BBC “did not notice” this story, it appears that the UK’s Emergency Committee will meet on Thursday to discuss this “incident”.
Wow, they breed their firemen tough in the UK, Everyman and his dog dressed up in hazmat gear, fireman says, not for me thanks boys I’ll be fine. The pommie sheeple must be getting sick of the government narrative of lies and propaganda, no doubt Russia will be blamed again.
RT has an updated article:
“Novichok strikes (but doesn’t kill) again, and all the old questions re-emerge….”
The two points raised in this article – The World Cup and Putin/Trump meeting are not lost on anyone.
This happened on Saturday – hmm. Yet it takes till Wednesday afternoon/evening (US’s 4th July celebrations/Independence Day) for the story to get traction – so people have been breathing the same air and hanging around the same places where these two individuals were poisoned but no one else has become ill – lethal nerve agent my arse!
I noticed how this “incident” knocked the World Cup off the top of the news cycle…..during the 2 days of downtime before the quarter finals and a week before the Putin/Trump meeting. Some groups are desperate to stop the meeting – by any means it seems.
The heat was building up against Johnson and May (especially due to World Cup success) – now everything is distracted again. It reminds me of the fable of Peter and the Wolf – eventually no one will believe this Government as they have cried wolf too many times. This current British Government is a joke.
UK Minister of State for Security Ben Wallace said.”These people weren’t linked to the Skripals… It wasn’t an attack, it was, I think, a contamination by a Novichok,”
The arrogant Wallace also trying to say Russia could shed light on Skripals – despite Russia asking and being left out of the whole investigation…..a farce!
The “we hate Trump” campaign was centered around a bunch of ex-British spies who produced the incompetent Trump Dodgy Dossier (must distinquish this one from the many other Dodgy Dossiers produce by incompetent British spies.)
Theresa May won’t reconsider decision not to attend World Cup – embassy source interfax
New Novichok claims curiously happen during massively successful World Cup in Russia – analysts
Published time: 5 Jul, 2018 00:33
Russia looks to the heavens and says “Thank God!” at the news that Theresa the Awful won’t be coming for a visit.
A humble suggestion from Nussiminen to the British Deep State (no remunerations asked):
This time around, to really make a statement, MI6 should have the English soccer team plus a random selection of English supporters in Russia subjected to some gruesome — most authentic — act of lethal violence on a massive scale. Duly sold to the public as ”Putin the monster retaliating for ongoing Skripal investigation. Trashes England’s glorious prospects in the FIFA World Cup”. This way, while sticking faithfully to the old garbage, you achieve what the Skripal hoax was intended to achieve all along.
Tony Blair would certainly approve of the idea. So BOJO and May shouldn’t shy away either.
Yes! Move directly to “go.”
Why the complicated detours??
All the MAY/BORIS political conspirators have to do today, is to falsely accuse the Russian Federation to the British public and also the world as, an illegal Russian Federation killing regime,
And the UK football team are forcefully advised to leaves Russia immediately, as also are the other foreign spectators by their respective homeland governments and the UK/NATO/Alliance affiliations will dictate.
As the USA plan to destroy their President’s visit with M V V Putin leads to an to be expected Donald-style cancellation and an over-extended secret UNO security council debate for the next week, at least.
Of course, this is not for certain nor is the prediction that ‘ Theresa and Boris and other culprits will be tried as traitors ‘ either.
Of course, my nasty little brain came up with the thought that Putin could do the same to them.
For instance, back when there was that horrible fire in a mall that killed the children in the theater, it would have been relatively simple to drop some ‘fake evidence’ that this was British Secret Service trying for a revenge attack on a Russian Mall after the Skirpal/Salisbury affair, only it went out of control and started the tragic fire.
Since we are in an evidence-free world, nothing says the Holy British Empire is immune to such attacks.
Fortunately, Putin seems to be above such tactics. And its probably best to let the world see the British football team showing the world its backside by its horribly unsportsmanlike play and the extremely low character of the Brits involved.
The Amesbury Mystery
Update from Craigg Murray
It keeps happening. Do you remember when Novichok was the most deadly of substances, many times more powerful than VX or Sarin, and causing death in seconds? But then, when that needed to be altered to fit the government’s Skripal story, they found scientists to explain that actually no, it was pretty slow acting, absorbed gradually through the skin, and not all that deadly.
Scientists are an interesting bunch. More than willing to ascribe whatever properties fit the government’s ever more implausible stories, in exchange for an MSM appearance fee, 5 minutes of fame and the fond hope of a research grant.
According to the Daily Telegraph today, the unfortunate Charlie Rowley is a registered heroin addict, and if true Occam’s Razor would indicate that is a rather more likely reason for his present state than an inexplicably persistent weaponised nerve agent.
If it is however true that two separate attacks have been carried out with “novichok” a few miles either side of Porton Down, where “novichok” is synthesised and stored for “testing purposes”, what does Occam’s razor suggest is the source of the nerve agent? A question not one MSM journalist seems to have asked themselves tonight.
British Government Peddles Warmed Over Novichok Muck
It seems that Theresa May felt a need to stoke some more Russia hate:
Just as the World Cup had forced the British media to grudgingly acknowledge the obvious truth that Russia is an extremely interesting country inhabited, like everywhere else, by mostly pleasant and attractive people, we have a screaming reprise of the “Salisbury incident” dominating the British media.
All British media outlets report of a middle-aged British couple, Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley, who fell seriously ill in Amesbury, a town near Salisbury and near the British chemical weapon site Proton Down. The couple were transported to the Salisbury hospital. They were first suspected to have taken drugs but the police now speaks (vid) of a “potential exposure to an unknown substance” and that they “remain in a critical condition”.
The parallels to the poisoning of the British-Russian spy Sergej Skripal and his daughter four month ago are obvious. The government alleged they were poisoned by a nerve agent of the Novichok series. Like back in March the British government will soon name the evildoer of this new drama.
As I understand it, the so-called ” Novichok ” has been registered by a former Russian chemist, now living in ‘ millionaire splendor ‘ in North America where some years ago he published details of his patented and legally registered rights to Novichok and all of it patented expressions!
With regards to the alleged poisoning of the family Skripal, and a Wiltshire police person in the Salisbury town, there is a problem with which particular ‘ organophosphate acetylcholine ‘ the British government authorities are claiming is a ‘ Novichok ‘?
Is it the well-understood A234 claimed by the experts at the American financed British establishment at their Porton Down chemical research and development centre, which claim is upheld by the UNO sponsored investigatory body, but when as required that body had to have their findings confirmed by a UNO registered and appointed laboratory, in fact the results from the Spiez Laboratory, which registered the tendered sample, as being the nerve agent BZ?
Thus we have this actual difference of professional opinions, BZ is ” 3 Quinuclidinyl Benzicate ” and given its composition it is completely different to A234.??
Until this difference of professional reports is resolved in an open and logical manner, the UK Governments claims of verity are more than suspect.
The summit meeting with President Putin will be cancelled, the Brits will pull their team from the football deal and order all the Brit tourists to return to UK because of the danger they are suddenly in.
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It would save them from loosing at the World Cup and still say that if they would have stayed, they would have won.
The U.K is run by a mafia which made London the center of russophobia.
As a matter of fact, London is the Mecca of all the remaining Chechen jihadists in exile, which probably are involved in this alleged Novichok comedy.
Cheers and lets hope Russia has a good game against Croatia.
”Police have yet to determine if there is any connection between the March poisoning and the incident in Amesbury, Basu said, noting that ’the possibility that these two investigations might be linked is clearly a line of enquiry for us’.”
Usually, clowns are just pathetic and unfunny but there is real, genuine entertainment whenever spokespeople paid to peddle the West’s narratives du jour toss in the above kind of bogus restraint just to sound professional and serious. It has about the same effect as perfume on a heap of faeces.
I think that GB suffers from Porton Down syndrome.
Fear not, Inspector Clouseau of La Sûreté Nationale is on his way to assist the incompetent UK unravel this vexing Russian riddle and hunt down the Putin-directed dastardly arch-criminal ‘Moriarty’ Gordon.
Readers are requested to be vigilant and view the picture in the link below for easy identification and report his whereabouts:
Craig Murray has some good input on this story (farce):
“UK counter-terrorism chief Neil Basu said that the substance was ‘Novichok,’ the same one that the UK claims the Skripals were poisoned with”.
I suppose that was easy to determine, since the reported symptoms – as in the Skripal case – were wholly and entirely different from those of any military nerve agent.
A possible interpretation of this case and the Skripal case is that the UK government is conducting an experiment to see just how much absurdity and contradiction the British public will clamly accept.
If so, the future is ominous. It seems the government could announce that black is white (because Putin) and dinosaurs are falling from the skies, without arousing the slightest doubt in the minds of the sheeple.
One can’t help wondering how much this new couple was paid to participate in this farce and maybe put their health (and future freedom) on the line by submitting to a dose of some “agent” whose properties they probably do not know. Per Craig Murray (thanks for link above) the fellow lives in a pricey house in a new housing estate.
One can almost hear the gnashing of teeth at 10 Downing Street as the Brits prevail in FIFA, the Russians bask in their deserved warm glow of success and niceness, the White Nights of St. Petersburg and the gorgeous city, the incredible museums and theaters, and the setting are probably knocking the socks of everyone who visits there and, frankly, putting Buckingham Palace and the other imperial sights of London to shame, Putin continues to book foreign policy victories, Trump doesn’t apparently give a flying F about the Hag May and is looking forward, I am sure, to his meeting with real man VVP—and the UK just seems to look more and more like a set for a bungled Monty Python production where the audience is laughing at them, not with them.
Do not forget EU just extended sanctions against Russia too…..what cui bono timing…..maybe stop nordstream 2 in case there is something in the gas……
What a farce! As sometimes happens Craig Murray is way out front on this..
Amesbury poisoning: Russia using UK as ‘dumping ground’
What’s the plot this time? A doorhandle not touched for 4 months or were these two drug addicts dumpster diving in a dumpster that had not been emptied in 4 months? Did the Skripal assassins not realise there was the River Avon mere feet away from the park bench to dispose of any excess Novichok? Back to asssassination school for you.
Seriously, a lame attempt to wreck the World Cup or the Trump/Putin meeting or perhaps just nasty Killary at work behind the scenes?
Would you buy a used car from either of those two in the BBC picture – or from the UK government?
UK regime change is definitely overdue.
Oooh! The hunt for ‘Gordon’ gets ever closer! Thanks, Inspector Clouseau:
“police … have also hinted they may have identified those who attempted to murder the Skripals”
A glove-wearing couple carrying a large red handbag were captured on video (it’s on YouTube) near the Skripal-poisoning site. This handbag-carrying couple resemble the new just-poisoned couple. A large red handbag was on the ground at the foot of the bench where the Skripals were found slumped. Did this handbag poison the Skripals? What are the chances that the just-now-poisoned couple and the red-handbag couple are really one and the same? Because “dead men tell no tales” it would sure be convenient for the (British? American? Ukrainian?) secret services to poison the poison-delivering couple so they could never “tell the tale” of their poison delivery to the Skripals. It’s also possible the newly-poisoned couple did not know about the contents of the red handbag. Perhaps they were just paid to deliver it unopened.
I looked for a Youtube video on the “Skripal Red Handbag Couple” and got this:
It looks like a joke! I mean, back to Monty Python.
Hmmm expert on channel 4 saying it may a fresh mix from a previous batch….that would throw a spanner in the works that it was left behind discarded by previous perps…implying there is still someone around messing around being careless( of course that is the last thing a handler would do) just leaving something to be found by anyone rather than actually targeting someone …….cannot believe a handler would take the chance of just throwing something away anyway.. just put it down a drain surely as that disintegrates it….a friend of the female said she was not right for days before going to.hospital….hhhmmm ..so cannot be an instant novichok….presumably if a source other than Russia is proven then as both are the same novichok…then Skripals were not attacked by Russia as is politically being pushed .
is this latest BS episode a response to President Trump and his threat that the Brits might lose their ‘Special Relationship Status’ and have it replaced by France . We will see shortly how many EU Countries follow 10 Downing’s lead with the anticipated pressure on the RF without any proof at all. How much ‘solidarity’ will there be this time around .
I’ve read they were both ‘recreational drug users’ and that one was a ‘registered heroin addict.’
Why did police feel any need to enter the property anyway?
Who was missing them, and when was it reported?
The whole thing looks like a pair of patsies were set up – because the Russian World Cup is going swimmingly – too swimmingly.
Then there’s the Trump – Putin summit…
Totally desperate tactics, maybe to pressure the OPCW into speedy ‘Russia dunnit’! conclusions ré the Skripals…
Amesbury poisoning: Couple ‘handled contaminated item’
The evolution of Novichok; now its effects are delayed not just for 3 hours but for an entire day -listen to the stalwart witness friend on the video.
“It is completely unacceptable for our people to be either deliberate or accidental targets, or for our streets, our parks, our towns, to be dumping grounds for poison,” he added
Earlier, Mrs May said it was “deeply disturbing” to see two more people exposed to Novichok in the UK, and the police would leave “no stone unturned in their investigation”.
Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott ups the angst talking ‘Kmer Rouge killing fields’.
Note to Abbott, Cambodia executions =1,386,734, Novichok = 0, thus far.
Careful turning those stones over Mayhem May -there may lurk the dreaded Novichok underneath.
How coincidental that the bungling UK police have only now made a ‘huge breakthrough’ with the Skripal case:
“2 SKRIPAL ASSASSINS Scotland Yard believes two-man hit team led Salisbury nerve agent attack on behalf of the Kremlin.
The pair are thought to have left the UK the next morning after carrying out the attempted assassination and are now under the protection of Vladmir Putin”
Such impeccable evidence there -I think the entire UK is now a tabloid.
Fitting that this comes just as the Americans are celebrating “We Hate the British Day!”
The key conclusion would appear to be that it is “Highly Likely” that it is unsafe to live anywhere near Porton Down.
Yes, but this has the makings of a Hollywood money-making movie for an enterprising director/producer assuming there are any left after the MeToo siege.
Skripal 1.0 -soon to be a major motion picture and sequels Skripal 2.0 through 6.0 at the very least – just like Diehard. Maybe a prequel or two featuring Vlad the Bad?
Everyone seems to have ignored the doctor/consultant at the hospital !!
The Saker, thank you for this post. Its very inspiring.