Okay, now we know: yesterday panic about a US attack on Syria was all about the “invincible Tsahal” making the usual symbolic attack against some “Iranian” forces in Syria. These guys were so totally macho and cool that they did not even bother informing Russia, and so totally loyal that they did inform the USA. The final score is as follows:
- 5 out of 8 missiles intercepted (you can see some photos of the results of this, basically failed, attack here)
- 14 personnel killed, including 2 Iranians
- The invincible Tsahal once again proves that besides murdering Palestinian civilians en masse it can also fire a few missiles from Lebanese airspace
- Besides the already galactic-size Zio-egos nobody will be impressed
- For some mysterious reason, anti-Semitism will continue to be “alarmingly on the rise” worldwide
That latter phenomenon should really worry us tremendously as it can lead to such disgusting scenes as this cowardly stoning of a peaceful Israeli military vehicle by a Palestinian terrorist:
The lesson here for all of us is simple: don’t panic or even reach conclusions if/when the US attack on Syria is reported.
First, there is a fair chance that Trump might decide to go for a symbolic attack. That would be anything under 100 cruise missiles fired at 1-4 targets (and their associated air defenses) and would probably not include government buildings in Damascus.
Second, if there is a real, full-scale US attack on Syria, expect no less than several hundred cruise missiles fired in the first wave of attack, followed by a probably smaller, but possibly similar sized, second wave. Should that happen you will get first reports of not Syrian air defenses engaging the incoming missiles, but also Russians ones. There is a strong possibility that at this point Russian military personnel will be reported killed and that, in turn, will probably lead to Russian counter-strikes on US forces with everything that implies.
By the way, there is no reason for the USN to risk their surface ships in such an attack. The US has converted several SSBNs (“boomers” with sea-launched ICBMs) into a SSGN (cruise missile carrier) each one of them capable of firing 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles. I don’t know where they currently are deployed, all I am saying that the US does have options, including launching a large amounts of cruise missiles from submarines which would be far less exposed to Russian retaliation, especially if the Navy provides the US SSGNs with aircover (which it definitely can).
Bottom line: don’t mistake the Israeli (or French) clowns for the US armed forces.
As for Syria, let’s see what happens today at the UNSC meeting called by Russia.
Maybe its some kind of mutant Pearl Harbour that is the goal. Put 3 patchy battle groups together and float them into range. Dry up diplomatic channels. Heat everything up. Have a declared enemy namely syria/iraqi jihadis and have launched missiles at them from the Med numerous times in recent past. Everything is tinder dry. The Israeli’s head fake with F-15’s on T4. Does the Donald Cook or other vessel have coordinates for target on eastern side of Euphrates.? Does the flight path overfly Russian facilities/nationals.?
” Erdogan may stab Russia in the back.”
100% sure. If not now,later.
” Maybe its some kind of mutant Pearl Harbor that is the goal. ”
Nice image,could happen, but no need. US ( or Israel ) can sink one of their destroyers and put the blame on Russia.
” Any sort of engagement and there would be a World Cup boycott by the West. ”
Russia should convince West of mutual destruction. ISIS is in Afghanistan,they have UAV’s so Russia could provide Taliban with MANPAD’s….and so on and so far ( Cuba,Ukraine,Philippine,…)
Maybe at Russia /NATO meeting next week they will talk about all this.
The war is coming anyway,546 % .
Russia/China is poisoning US hen with golden eggs ( dollar and petrodollar ),a huge mess around Israel borders,there is still some free media and the Truth still spreads…
Any sort of engagement and there would be a World Cup boycott by the West. Plus with inertia gained exclusion from mid east peace process. Already words are rattling around to the effect that Russia has failed as a ‘framework guarantor ‘ in respect to Syrian CW. Plus the allegation Russia involvement in Skripal hoax. So yes exclusion from the just about go be rammed through anti christian Jerusalem peace agreement. Plus nice cover for dome demolition.
Russia allied with syria.
Usa allied with israel.
Syria attacked israel.
They never made peace.
At this point usa is breaking international law.
At this point russia is obeying international law.
Now usa backed israel is attacking russia backed syria.
And russia is allied with turkey and iran.
Most of the -impressive- discussion here is whether Russia will respond.
I want to propose to reverse the question.
Not for a second I doubt the loyalty of USA military men, but I also do not doubt their sanity.
Are they really prepared to go to war with Russia, to grab land for the Israelis? While the Israelis are too coward, because they know they will then look in the barrel of a gun held by Hezbollah?
Are USA military men really willing to do that?
I still have some hopes on their sanity, but I fear that in all the chest-thumping someone moves himself in a corner.
Greetings to the Saker and the Saker community!
I have read this blog for a few years and enjoy it a lot but this is my first attempt at posting. And I have been dying to tell a joke the Saker would appreciate.
“Novorussia? What, did they decide to rename Hallandale Beach?” It may be a little stale.
The Donald Cook, of all Arleigh Burke Class ships. is off the coast of Syria. All alone it seems (subs are lurking from several nations and SLCM’s do not have flags attached to them)Like a goat tied to a tree. Glad my brother and sister in law are retired from the Navy. Found this 2013 quote from a ZH poster: “President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside.” -Donald Trump, 2013.
Guess Bill Hicks had it right:
Peace to all.
Erdogan may stab Russia in the back. The attack may pass through Turkey and may originate from ships in Black Sea including from Ukraine port US has begun using..
There is an aspect that worries me the most.
This whole Skripal hoax and White Helmets hoax the timing was not that good. It was supposed to be direct after each other. Add to that, imho the Skripals are just sedated and kidnapped by MI6, and we can’t exclude that they are already dead.
However, the whole set up is of the poorest quality. Everyone having done some military service knows, that nerve gas works instantly and can kill within minutes without much chance on a cure, and touching a victim with bare hands is deadly.
Even Joe Sixpack watching his daily MSM knows this.
We can have many opinions about MI6, CIA and the inevitable Mossad. But I have never considered them… *incompetent*.
Could this mean that the *plotters* are desperate, if not to say in panic?
I feel not only being in a room with a chimpansee holding a hand grenade, but this chimpansee is in panic and the windows are closed.
USA military men, watch your back because I feel the next false flag coming. IDF soldiers will have no remorse in sacrificing you like they have done before with the USS Liberty.
I just hit on this article: https://www.debka.com/us-france-uk-prepare-air-navy-units-for-sustained-assault-in-syria/
Yes, it’s an Israeli site, but they are normally quite well informed in intelligence and military environments.
If true, a massive assault on Syria is prepared and the final decision will be taken coming Thursday.
I fear for the worst.
I’ll say it again. If Russia believes a strike is inevitable, it should consider striking first, and forcefully. If the Russians can actually take out large navy vessels, that needs to be demonstrated. Hopefully the psychopaths won’t retaliate with nukes but may pull back.
Raid on Trumps lawyers office.
Homeland Security Sec resigns.
Trump cancels SA trip.
Trump coordinating response in Syria with May and Macron.
Yulia Scripal released from hospital and in secure location.
Coordinated attack with Britain and France participating will ensure that if Russia responds forcefully she will be isolated from Europe and lose the Cup. I think this is the play and that the fake gas attack was specifically aimed to sway Trump personally. To prick his ego.
Merkel is Putin’s lifeline in the EU.
At the edge of the cliff.
If there is an attack we must hope that Russia has total, devastating EW superiority an can disable the attackers weapons.
that’s a fantasy. The Russian EW is the best. But the best EW can be over saturated.
I love that pic of resistance!