Less than a month ago I warned that a ‘color revolution ‘ was taking place in the USA. My first element of proof was the so-called “investigation” which the CIA, FBI, NSA and others were conducting against President Trump’s candidate to become National Security Advisor, General Flynn. Tonight, the plot to get rid of Flynn has finally succeeded and General Flynn had to offer his resignation. Trump accepted it.
Now let’s immediately get one thing out of the way: Flynn was hardly a saint or a perfect wise man who would single handedly saved the world. That he was not. However, what Flynn was is the cornerstone of Trump’s national security policy. For one thing, Flynn dared the unthinkable: he dared to declare that the bloated US intelligence community had to be reformed. Flynn also tried to subordinate the CIA and the Joint Chiefs to the President via the National Security Council. Put differently, Flynn tried to wrestle the ultimate power and authority from the CIA and the Pentagon and subordinate them back to the White House. Flynn also wanted to work with Russia. Not because he was a Russia lover, the notion of a Director of the DIA as a Putin-fan is ridiculous, but Flynn was rational, he understood that Russia was no threat to the USA or to Europe and that Russia had the West had common interests. That is another absolutely unforgivable crimethink in Washington DC.
The Neocon run ‘deep state’ has now forced Flynn to resign under the idiotic pretext that he had a telephone conversation, on an open, insecure and clearly monitored, line with the Russian ambassador.
And Trump accepted this resignation.
Ever since Trump made it to the White House, he has taken blow after blow from the Neocon-run Ziomedia, from Congress, from all the Hollywood doubleplusgoodthinking “stars” and even from European politicians. And Trump took each blow without ever fighting back. Nowhere was his famous “you are fired!” to be seen. But I still had hope. I wanted to hope. I felt that it was my duty to hope.
But now Trump has betrayed us all.
Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.? Today, Trump has shown us his true face. Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation. This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.
Again, Flynn was not my hero. But he was, by all accounts, Trump’s hero. And Trump betrayed him.
The consequences of this will be immense. For one thing, Trump is now clearly broken. It took the ‘deep state’ only weeks to castrate Trump and to make him bow to the powers that be. Those who would have stood behind Trump will now feel that he will not stand behind them and they will all move back away from him. The Neocons will feel elated by the elimination of their worst enemy and emboldened by this victory they will push on, doubling-down over and over and over again.
It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.
From now on, Trump will become the proverbial shabbos-goy, the errand boy of the Israel lobby. Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot‘.
The Chinese and Iranian will openly laugh. The Russians won’t – they will be polite, they will smile, and try to see if some common sense policies can still be salvaged from this disaster. Some might. But any dream of a partnership between Russia and the United States has died tonight.
The EU leaders will, of course, celebrate. Trump was nowhere the scary bogeyman they feared. Turns out that he is a doormat – very good for the EU.
Where does all this leave us – the millions of anonymous ‘deplorables’ who try as best we can to resist imperialism, war, violence and injustice?
I think that we were right in our hopes because that is all we had – hopes. No expectations, just hopes. But now we objectively have very little reasons left to hope. For one thing, the Washington ‘swamp’ will not be drained. If anything, the swamp has triumphed. We can only find some degree of solace in two undeniable facts:
- Hillary would have been far worse than any version of a Trump Presidency.
- In order to defeat Trump, the US deep state has had to terribly weaken the US and the AngloZionist Empire. Just like Erdogan’ purges have left the Turkish military in shambles, the anti-Trump ‘color revolution’ has inflicted terrible damage on the reputation, authority and even credibility of the USA.
The first one is obvious. So let me clarify the second one. In their hate-filled rage against Trump and the American people (aka “the basket of deplorables”) the Neocons have had to show their true face. By their rejection of the outcome of the elections, by their riots, their demonization of Trump, the Neocons have shown two crucial things: first, that the US democracy is a sad joke and that they, the Neocons, are an occupation regime which rules against the will of the American people. In other words, just like Israel, the USA has no legitimacy left. And since, just like Israel, the USA are unable to frighten their enemies, they are basically left with nothing, no legitimacy, no ability to coerce. So yes, the Neocons have won. But their victory is removes the last chance for the US to avoid a collapse.
Trump, for all his faults, did favor the US, as a country, over the global Empire. Trump was also acutely aware that ‘more of the same’ was not an option. He wanted policies commensurate with the actual capabilities of the USA. With Flynn gone and the Neocons back in full control – this is over. Now we are going to be right back to ideology over reality.
Trump probably could have made America, well, maybe not “great again”, but at least stronger, a major world power which could negotiate and use its leverage to get the best deal possible from the others. That’s over now. With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.
I am quite sure that nobody today is celebrating in the Kremlin. Putin, Lavrov and the others surely understand exactly what happened. It is as if Khodorkovsy would have succeeded in breaking Putin in 2003. In fact, I have to credit Russian analysts who for several weeks already have been comparing Trump to Yanukovich, who also was elected by a majority of the people and who failed to show the resolve needed to stop the ‘color revolution’ started against him. But if Trump is the new Yanukovich, will the US become the next Ukraine?
Flynn was very much the cornerstone of the hoped-for Trump foreign policy. There was a real chance that he would reign in the huge, bloated and all-powerful three letter agencies and that he would focus US power against the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis. With Flynn gone, this entire conceptual edifice has now come down. We are going to be left with the likes of Mattis and his anti-Iranian statements. Clowns who only impress other clowns.
Today Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media. Ironically, Trump supporters will also try minimize it all. But the reality is that barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle, it’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA and the rest of the world who had hoped that the Neocons could be booted out of power by means of a peaceful election. That is clearly not going to happen.
I see very dark clouds on the horizon.
UPDATE1: Just to stress an important point: the disaster is not so much that Flynn is out but what Trump’s caving in to the Neocon tells us about Trump’s character (or lack thereof). Ask yourself – after what happened to Flynn, would you stick your neck out for Trump?
UPDATE2: Just as predicted – the Neocons are celebrating and, of course, doubling-down:
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory seems to be in the stars.
On a smaller scale in Germany the only opposition to Merkels regime, the AfD is about to fire a popular leader and risking fractricide.
Why is this happening?
We obviously need another round of suffering for everyone wake up and think.
Difficult but great when its behind us😊
I don’t hold out much hope that enough people in this country will wake up under any circumstances. Essay by Caitlin Johnson (Feb 5) on the enjoyment of “liberals” participating in “fear porn” is interesting in this regard.
Yes well, these aren’t people of course but sheeple. They do not count anyway, otherwise they wouldn’t watch JM$M, nor even worrry about their totally obvious pack of lies (Caitlin Johnson).
II completely agree with Saker’s point 2, which is all there is to it, anyway. I don’t see what is the big deal about this Flynn. He’s just a Nazi ‘educated’ general, not unlike all the rest of them (otherwise they wouldn’t be generals). I only once saw him on RT’s SophieCo and I didn’t like him at all. It (the interview) was a meaningless catastrophe actually.
As long as Trump isn’t assassinated (or poisoned/disabled) things are going just fine. The Roth-child mob is certainly trying to do that. It’s been these posonous rats’ trademark for centuries. Givi was one of their latest victims.
I don’t like Flynn at all either and am pretty certain I would not like any US high level military commander. However, Flynn was one that went against the grain in important ways – both in regards to the CIA and in regards to Russia. The bigger point though is that the intelligence community didn’t have too difficult a time in quickly demonstrating who runs the show.
Fantastic, good article.
We, Europeans are trapped inside this diabolical cage, named “European Union”.
There is no escape, until those satanic leaders, like Merkel, Schultz, Verhofstadt, are in charge.
The only way out is to get rid of these garbage leaders, no matter how…
Anyone – including myself – was too optimistic, when beleiving that anything could be
changed by a “lone wolfe”, an outsider, named Trump.
Now it’s clearly visible, that he is NOT our champion, since he has failed at his first
probe. You said: “I see very dark clouds on the horizon.” According to my honest opinion,
the future more darker: distroyed nation states, slavery, wars,
Well, looks like Gen. Flynn and Trump’s testicular fortitude was the last thing standing against a full blown ww3. Now that both are gone, any remaining hope for stopping or at least postponing biblical armageddon is also gone. I feel sorry for those good folks still living in north america and western europe and not preparing to relocate for a greener pasture when things get rough. Most importantly, people need to keep their spiritual house in order. When radiation and cannibalism is rampant, how long does it take to lose your humanity/sanity?
Popular uprising is still a viable possibility.
The public, even the most brainwashed and actively maintained ignorance, are absorbing, if only at a sub-conscious level, the startling change of tune from the warmongering empirists’ prime quackers, i.e. McCain, Hillary (of course), and the rest of the usual suspects.
But this dissonance, between the waking mind and the sub-conscious mind is exploitable for motivational purposes.
Popular agency can be gained by subconsciously-targeted messaging, which could conceivably, on the surface, get past mainstream media/propaganda agency vetting systems, if packaged correctly.
Very few aspects of society could be immunized against such ‘opening of the eyes’; while police might be resistant, having been more thoroughly trained to suspend rational consideration, veteran armed services personnel could be MORE open to shedding component dysfunctional indoctrination, i.e. Standing Rock.
Somebody’s going to do it.
Both Trump and AfD where(are, not so much anymore) possibly the last hope for a peaceful solution.. everything else means civil/war
Another round of suffering is in the near term and beyond which is a continuation of the trajectory the US has been on since the end of the Cold War. With the start of the previous three US administrations there was always hope for better but it always ended up worse.
Why should we not expect more millions to suffer and more death and destruction? The US neocon/neolib ruled Deep State with Wall St and its intelligence agency jackals at it core want more and will kill and destroy to get it and will continue until they run up against a brick wall. It is up to the powers in the East, with Russia and China at its core, to stop the US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals.
All my hopes for the future depend on the Eastern powers standing up to the US. There is nothing in the West to give me any hope that it can correct itself.
What is “fracticide?” Is this a misspelling? Do you actually mean “fratricide?” Which means the killing of ones brother??
I am sure that is what he ment. How petty
Christoph, the AfD doesn’t matter, because it isn’t an opposition. It is what we call an U-Boot – an impostor. It was founded out of the CDU (founding members were all CDU people to my knowledge) in order to collect the deplorable, angry Germans before a true opposition with actual meaning arises (I am also convinced that Pegida is one of those Verfassungsschutz programs).
The only opposition of the AfD is the refugee thing, but that is just a minor problem, the last one that occurred after 25 years of slow neoliberalcon infiltration of the German mind, culture and society. The AfD would be an opposition if it called for German sovereignty, a new constitution to kick out the Yankees, close Ramstein etc. etc.
If you read the program of the AfD you will find that it is exactly the same neoliberal program Schröder and Merkel have given us – only just even a little harder, a bit more anti-social USA like.
Oh, and to leave NATO and EU, of course. :)
Can anyone say
If Trump did everything on Saker’s list he would already be dead and Pence would be president in a manner that is more than figurative.
While the US neocon Deep State as revealed itself to intelligent observers (like Saker and his readers), the US general public is still as clueless as ever, caught in the MSM web of Bernays-ian duopoly identity politics.
No, Pence is looking to be the new Dick Cheney, the power behind the buffoon. That way the US public will not see his hand manipulating the Trump-puppet.
I do not see Pence as particularly gifted such that he would be the power behind the throne. He is at best a Neo-con puppet that will follow orders.
So disappointed in Trump to cave so easily. I thought he was made of sterner stuff. It seems the Russians miscalculated on him. We are going to be back on a war footing soon. I hate to admit it, but I think the world was a safer place under Obama, and this is the reason why. Obama took orders from Soros and the Saudis, and was at heart a globalist with a deep seated hatred of America. His actions can be seen as doing everything to undermine her from within, ie; Flooding the country with illegals, weakening the military, running up the debt, destroying the culture with gender perversion, promoting Islam…
With Trump we have a situation that is much more dangerous. Almost a seven days in May scenario, where they going to allow Trump to run around calling himself president until such time as they have enough momentum to impeach him or he resigns. At this rate he will not last a year. It is clear that he is totally out his element, and cares little for those that supported him. Recall Flynn was on of earliest supporters.
So the Military Complex is going to get everything their hearts desire. More money poured in, more weapons, more contracts and war with Russia.
I predicted Pence’s rise to the top spot a few month’s back. Trump was visibly uneasy at the nominating convention when Pence was essentially shoved down his throat as a running mate. A replay of history when Roosevelt’s very capable vice president Henry Wallace was nixed by the Left wing party machine in 1944 and a party puppet Truman was put in his place. Like Truman, Pence represents his party’s radical wing and, like Roosevelt, Trump’s early demise would put him in the top spot ! Truman’s contribution was the only use of an atomic weapon in wartime, the eventual death of labor unions through the passage of Taft-Hartley that remains unchallenged by Democrats today, the presidency being weakened by the 22nd Amendment that reduced that office holder’s tenure to two terms in office, and the Korean war that launched a forty year long Cold War ! Anther period of our country’s history where Democrats openly supported war !
How was “Pence…shoved down his throat as a running mate…at the nominating convention”? Trump picked Pence during the primary campaign when he was still running against many other Republicans. Pence was not picked at the convention.
How do you know what went on behind the scenes in the decision making? Were you there? VP “picks” have often been “compromise” choices, to put it kindly.
Do you really think Reagan wanted Bush the elder? Was JFK enamored with Johnson? Truman was a real piece of shyte the deep state wanted in power once Roosevelt succumbed to his illness —or so we are told.
Dear The Saker,
The end of this RT article states the following:
“General Keith Kellogg was appointed as acting national security advisor after Flynn’s resignation. …”
Who is Kellogg? Here is his background:
Wikileaks have claimed the following:
“Former US National Security Advisor Michael Flynn has made a decision to step down as a result of a destabilization campaign by the media, intelligence community and the Democratic party, WikiLeaks said on Tuesday…..”
Another article which puts some perspective:
well.Cynthia McKinney, on her FB page commented “Good, but for different reasons than they’re stating”
Flynn was a jerk….good riddance.
The Duran article is logical and measured.
Google “general keith kellogg” and you’ll find plenty of information about him. :)
It seems that VP Pence, in league with the deep-state was the driving force behind the Flynn resignation. Trump made a fatal error in picking a Russophobe neo-con for his Vice President. It will most likely end destroying him. If you are going to have a “second in command” who isn’t totally loyal to you. At least you pick one you can control. He made the mistake of not doing that. And unlike others in the regime. Even if Trump wanted to, he can’t fire his Vice President. He was elected to office,at the same time as Trump. So he’s stuck with him.
”He was elected to office,at the same time as Trump. So he’s stuck with him.”
He was selected for this very reason.
Trump did not select Pence anymore than Reagan selected Bush, who later tried to kill him very early in his Presidency.
Pence was appointed as an overseer and guarantor of the Necon Deep State interests. If Trump does not play ball he will be eliminated quicker than you can say JFK. The calls for his assasination in MSM, couched as ‘predictions,’ were too frequent to ignore.
thats what I meant by this ”He was selected for this very reason.”
Trump is pathetic. I never trusted much on him. He’s weak and has no idea of strategic play.
Let us hope you are wrong. Perhaps his chief of staff Kellogg and possible sucessor will fulfill the same role as Flynn with less trumpets and drums.
CNN and Fox say that they weigh for…… Petraeus.
Yes, it’s not a joke….
Whenever there is an opening the corporate media shills for a neocon
Oddly enough, when I heard about Flynn, the first thing to pop into my head was “Petraeus!” A real snake in the grass.
@ saker: Why did Flynn lie about the content of the conversation?
I don’t think that he did. He had to say that to protect Trump. He “took the bullet”. Why would he lie about a totally benign conversation (had it been something important, an ex-Director of the DIA and a Russian Ambassador would not have used on open, insecure, line).
No – Trump sacrificed him under political pressure.
My friend I do think this is an overreaction. I will be watching in the next few days to see if Flynn goes away quietly. Flynn may take a vacation for a while. But when he’s back, probably by the end of March, I expect him to start acting as a Trump surrogate — and going after his Deep State adversaries with both barrels. Watch for leaks of memos warning John Brennan about the rise of ISIS in 2014 or that TOW missiles and other US arms sent to ‘moderate rebels’ in Syria were flowing to Al Nusra/Qaeda if not ISIS. If there is no pushback or punishment of the neocons in govmt through firings of WaPost/NYT sources and further exposure of neocon complicity in the rise of Daesh, and if all the talk of detente with Russia comes to nought by summer, then I’ll agree with this analyses by the Saker.
I do concur that none of this makes much sense unless Flynn was carrying out his boss’s orders to see if he could basically cool off the confrontation Obama was deliberately creating with the Russians. It is hard to be a patriot who does the right thing and has his name dragged through the mud for it, but at least Flynn is still young enough to fight back — together with his son Mike Flynn Jr. who while not the most competent guy seems fiercely loyal to his dad.
The war to root out the neocons is a long one, and requires patience. If Trump is going to fight back, he needs ammo and allies from within the Deep State prepared to nail some of their colleagues on their soft coup actions and arming of terrorists, among other things. Putin had a critical mass of ‘siloviki’ who were prepared to do what needed to be done. Does Trump?
Remember when Varoufakis stepped aside and then what happened to Syriza. These people take no prisoners, obey no rule they just apply pressure, there will be no respite they will pick another and then another. This is the beginning of the final showdown between the corporate powers and the people, by proxy as a factional war, but the Saker is right they lose everything in winning the first battle.
Can you expand on that, please? What do you mean?
Sorry Mr. Dacy I can be cryptic.
Read it in reverse, that is this group the core of US imperialism has had a minor setback with Trump, they are correcting it, but their blunt force way in which they rule the world is now applied to the home state (the US). It is like using a sledge hammer to crack an egg, it works but the results aren’t useful.
Trump does not have an organisation behind him, he represents a set of interests larger than his associates, but together they form a small faction that orbits the core power group. So Trump has a small tight web which is being pulled apart, and a large popular tendrils from the base up to his group there is no coordinating centre that links these two.
So Trump is vulnerable and was always vulnerable, he may occasionally act interdependently, but he does not have a powerful base so he looses, he must lose. That part is Obama part 2. However, what is incredible is the ineptness and weakness of the ‘powerful hub’ that has changed since 2008.
Excessive hegemonic force spends itself by such complete mobilisation, it looses its coordinating ability by overusing it. People wise up very fast now, illusions simply fall away, The real fight is now on the schedule, between the people’s public interest and cabal of private corporate interests.
If instead of taming or eliminating Trump they used him as a proxy to paper over the big problem,es and patch up the small ones (Obama could not they owned him too well), then the regime would last longer, internally strengthen. Some, if not most of what Trump is saying is not directed at people but at the core power group, he actually is a reformer of their more daft policies — but they are too corrupt for that they only now know the course they are on and anything that suggests change is threat to their control — that is weakness and it is showing internationally.
The empire is starting to deteriorate internally, the client states are floating away, Australia is so ‘Hillary’ bound that there has been a US troop increase in Darwin (doubling thew strength) and a continued partisanship against Trump politically and in the media —- we have always been so loyal to every US president until now, and that knot has been severed. This is happening all over.
Internal to the US the last vestige of of connection between the people, which was the presidential office, and the state has been fatally eroded. Soros has loosed the dogs, and when the participants sober up, they will not go back to their kennels to be released again — forces are being spent recklessly. The media whose standing has been low fro a long time, has become a joke that it cannot recover from, being ridiculed by the public is the last connection (the mainline media was the church of the modern world — it is no longer).
So regardless of anyone’s theory or thoughts, desires or dreams, society, world wide, has divided into two camps.
The fighting side, the side of apparent strength — “them” — have created “us”. The accord that is civil society has been destroyed by them, we are already in a period of civil war. We are many but lack coherence, all our power is potential there is nothing that realises it. Anything they comes up now is new, virginal and can concentrate a lot of latent power. But this will only come about when the old discords that kept us at each other’s throats are allowed to fade away.
The irony is that Trump was their last best chance.
I understand the cynicism.
But it was always going to get ugly, eventually.
I agree that the overuse of the last tranche of mechanisms to manipulate public perception have exposed them/it/what ever ‘the flaw’ between the popular social myth and existence on the ground; there is a deep, significantly configured wedge between the waking consciousness, well-trained to readily download the latest fiction, now become absurd and ridiculous, and what can’t be hidden from the subconscious perception.
It’s like tinder, and could spread… astonishingly.
But everybody is in fear, fear of the powers that aren’t supposed to exist, but do exist, and are used to make people ‘go away’, not necessarily physically, but definitely in terms of any kind of meaningful suasion capability.
Reassurances of methods to resist the empire might inspire action, but of course, the early adapters will be crushed, so it would a lie, however, if people could subtly be shown the inevitability of the impending collapse, and associated atrocities, unavoidable, critical mass might be achieved.
I agree. Flynn did what all good soldiers do and fell on his sword for the boss.
You have to remember, Flynn probably represented the faction of the elite that wanted to bring back reality. That elite is still there and Flynn can work with them behind the scenes.
Look at Roger Stone who left the campaign in August and has been working hard behind the scenes, mostly behind the scenes with the alternative media (infowars) to great effect.
Flynn is a huge loss to Trump and the country.
But the battle is not over yet. There were several times during the campaign when I thought it was over but Trump just kept on winning against impossible odds.
I don’t think Trump is tired of winning yet. And don’t forget, his support grows a little every day.
It’s not at all clear that Flynn’s fall is such a great loss: Flynn and the colonels have a thing for Iran that will do no one any good:
The colonels shaping Trump’s Middle East policy
Underneath the drama and chaos of the Donald Trump White House — the rival power centers, combative press conferences mercilessly mocked on Saturday Night Live, leaked transcripts of Trump’s phone calls to allied leaders, and the often inflammatory tweeter-in-chief, fuming over the latest perceived insult while watching “Morning Joe” — a cadre of deeply serious, tested military intellectuals at the National Security Council is shaping Trump’s Middle East policies.
Transcript: Michael Flynn on ISIL
Read the full transcript of our discussion about the rise of ISIL, the War on Terror, torture and how to deal with Iran.
13 Jan 2016
Most interesting. Thanks for posting. I hope you’re right.
Your ideas of what constitutes the Deep State have proven to be too shallow. See: http://breskin.com/Inquiramus/2017/01/18/the-deep-state/ There’s a reason for Obama to have vacationed in Bariloche, Argentina in 2016. See: http://tinyurl.com/hrd3haw and http://tinyurl.com/zds85no
Your hopes for the Trump administration were based on sentiment, not on political calculation. Trump is over his head.
The IMF meets April 21-23 in Wash DC. Quotas are up for review. A fall in the US quota of 16.53% (https://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/memdir/members.aspx) below 15% would eliminate the US veto on major actions that requires an 85% majority. The shake up in confidence in the global monetary regime should not be underestimated. April may come in like a lamb, but it may not go out as one.
The Reshetnikov interview is a gem. Thanks for that. Russia appears to be a civilization pulling itself together and searching for its cultural metaphors, as the man said:
“An Idea is what always wins, and if we do not offer an Idea but are offering just material values instead, we will only achieve temporary solutions that are essentially failures.
. . .
Attempts at resolving the conflicts among the nations or the states using exclusively economic methods are doomed, that’s is why we are losing.”
It is always darkest before the dawn.
Lord of Chaos, bringer of light.
Strange that you reply to Auslander, an Orthodox Christian, with a praise to Lucifer. Because KEK that Frog God who was morphed via 4 Chan, 8 Chan and Richard Spencers altright into the Trump campaign, is when all irony ends, just that: Lucifer, the first rebel, Lord of Chaos, Bringer of Light. The altright folks think that they have brought Trump with “meme magic” into power. A strange fringe now goes mainstream. Just the other extreme of political correctness. Political correctness made you bow before every designated victim group (designated by the elite); and now, having ridiculed this absurd nonsense, you bow before nothing anymore. Now you are just left with a manic laughter, an ironic insensitiveness about everything, especially human suffering. As it is due for an authentic worshipper of the Lord of Flies and of Lies. And even Orthodox Christians are not immune against this sort of stinking trash. Look at Kathenon, a supposedly Orthodox website, featuring A. Dugin that ardent admirer of Trump, posing as an Orthodox Christian. But who in his own words and truly is a follower of the Left Hand Path thus a Satanist. This pseudo traditionalists are now celebrating themselves for having shoved Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” right back In “The Left’s Ugly Face“. Imagine how the “Rules For Radicals” start: with a dedication to Lucifer. Beware of strange bedfellows.
Regarding Gen. Flynn and Iran, I recommended this article from “The Duran”: http://theduran.com/general-flynn-hate-iran/
“It is difficult to avoid the impression that Flynn formed his ideas about Iran as a US intelligence officer during the George W. Bush administration’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In both of those wars Iran and the US pursued parallel but often conflicting strategies, with both countries seeking the defeat of fundamentalist Sunni Jihadis in Afghanistan and Iraq, but wanting to prevent the other country from emerging the undisputed victor. The result was what might be called ‘duplicitous cooperation’, with Iran and the US simultaneously working with and against each other in an often totally ruthless and treacherous way.
It is not difficult to see why against this background General Flynn as a front line intelligence officer might come to see the Iranians as deceitful and treacherous, and conclude that they can’t be trusted, and why he might develop an intense loathing for them. Thus his interview with Al-Jazeera is peppered with comments like this
‘I could go on and on all day about Iran and their behaviour, you know, and their lies, flat out lies, and then their spewing of constant hatred, no matter whenever they talk.'”
Thank you for this summary Avarachan. Flynn was as much a warmonger as other Neo-Cons, he was just more focused on Iran and friendlier towards Russia. The next goal in the US grand strategy in the mid-east is Iran though, and as such he was the choice Trump went for when picking him. I think the Saker is overreacting a bit here, maybe he was hoping for more of a change under D Trump, which I never expected, so this early ouster to me is not as shocking as to him.
This doesn’t mean there wasn’t any infighting in the deep state on organizational matters and raw power, but foreign policy wise, I doubt this move will much alter the very pre-determined course of history. Iran has been singled out, Ryan used the term ‘You have been put on notice’, after a completely legal missile launch by Teheran and Trump’s rhetoric with his Tweets towards Teheran are saying as much. I don’t get why anyone can’t see that. To say the firing of Flynn alone was the breaking point for Trump’s administration, vastly over-estimates the president’s wilingness or ability to take on the US deep-state. Had he wanted to do so, why pick Pompeo as head of the CIA? Why cosy up to Saudi-Arabia?
Anyway, on the grand chess board of things a pawn just tumbled and fell, because the King would not protect him. But it was just a pwan and the pieces will have to keep on moving.
As i said it from the beginning, this so called trump hype was way over exagerated and this wishfull thinking of Trump-Putin duo saving the world was ridiculous.
Putin’s Russia is clearly rejecting the very foundation of what is the current USA, the petro $, so unless Putin was planning to return Russia to it’s 90’s era Zio-colony, there could never have been a common ground between the two.
Besides that there were also other signs like, an ex goldman sachs and soros fund management banker at the head of the secretary treasury, the constant hammering by the media about trump (as contrary to the complete black out on someone like Dr Ron Paul) …
Clearly this is a “non événement” and just another nail in the US coffin.
At last the truth.
I was getting fed up with all the Trump fans. He never did anything to deserve the adulation
Since being in the whitehouse it has been a mess. He had not shown any foresight or strategic thinking.
Whatever cards he had to play he wasted them l
He has employed a whole team of neocons and as for any Russian partnership with the USA this was never ever going to happen – I don’t even know why anyone would think so,
There are too many differences
As for Flynn he was extremely anti Iranian how is that good for Russia
Trump, like Nixon, has awoken the “silent majority” and has done us a great service by attacking political correctness.
Trump, like Nixon, had to surround himself with members of the tribe that owns Congress, in order to have a fighting chance of success. Trump, like Nixon will not succeed, because the minefields were laid before he was sworn in.
The fact that outsider Trump has: exposed the internationalists, like Soros, for what they are; shown the “Antifa” hatefest to be ridiculously shallow; and, exposed the political activism of the courts; will pay long term dividends for those who oppose the current system.
My late Vietnam vet cousin predicted another revolution, but not in his lifetime. More of this treachery will only build the pyre waiting for a spark.
I would not put too much significance to this — Trump was never some kind of knight in shining armor, but just the alternative to Clinton. He may still do a few good things here and there, but the general thrust of his ideology — and yes he not simply transactional, because US realism (realpolitik) in itself is an ideology (at the heart of capitalism and empire, in fact).
As for the neocons, one might recall the advice (Sun Tzu?) that one should never intervene when the enemy is making a mistake. The deciding reason I voted for Trump is still holding — avoiding nuclear war, and it may yet hold for quite a while despite the neocons, since Clinton is not in the driver’s seat.
As for the economy, Trump, overall, will still bring it down, if simply by not averting the previously scheduled meltdown, with further deregulation, corporate tax cuts, hand-outs to the rich, destruction of social welfare, and so on.
It is not so much that it is over as that it was never really there, except as a very remote dream. This is just shifting another deck chair as we hit the iceberg, and all the great forces are still in play, albeit with the Clinton monster exorcised and sporting a necklace of garlic. The situation itself has improved, however, with Trump winning, and with more people more awake than ever in the last century. A lot more people can now see the iceberg.
Nice metaphors, blue! One after the other.
And many cool under pressure comments I have read in this thread.
That’s comforting. I can turn in and sleep soundly. I’m not joking.
It’s a war and when you realize it really is a war, and there is no easy, quick “peace channel” to switch to, you may as well figure you more than likely won’t live through this war, so you’re already a dead man or woman walking..
And just count your blessings if your grim assessment is wrong.
Can we have some some sense analysis now based on what is happening not what people want to happen
1. Ukraine escalation
2. NATO on Russia’s borders
3. Exercises in the black sea
4. Anti iranian rhetoric and sanctions
5. The smearing of Syrian govt by amnesty international
6. Unrest in Iraq – what is going on geolpolitical impact
7. Afghanistan – smearing or Russia
There is a whole list of issues that will impact Russia now can we talk about them instead of Trump
The environment around Russia has not improved and is set to get worse –
Russia would be stupid to have relaxed its guard
They need to behave as if Hillary was elected
There is not a no-fly-zone in Syria, and we are not composed of radioactive ash. That’s quite significant. The president is not all together but he is not the raging psychopath Clinton is. Let us be thankful for ‘small blessings’. I don’t recall anyone promising a rose garden.
Trump told Erdogan and the Saudis if they can pay for it the US will back a NFZ in Syria. That’s my assumption.
8. Bling medals for the Saudi regime.
9. Unlimited honey pot $$$ for the Israeli apartheid state.
10. Media back out of Yemen crisis.
Russia would be stupid to have relaxed its guard
They need to behave as if Hillary was elected.
Agreed, exactly right, James!
So pleased to find this commentary here after having felt pretty sick about this development ever since it was reported tonight. Very grim. Have always thought that Trump did not pick the right close advisors in the beginning to protect him in what they had to know was going to get ugly. Agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. I got nowhere earlier tonight trying to explain my similar take to a few friends and family members. Nothing is going to save the US from its fate in the 11th hour. I find myself sometimes thinking that the collective psyche in this country actually years for its own destruction.
“collective psyche”, I wonder the same thing.
” the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis” ? these are the creation of the west. Saker, why not Israel? why not the ”zionists”?
the Wahhabis are from Saudi Arabia – although that regime was set up by England, I don’t think the Wahhabis were made in the West…
That may be, but they were on the receiving of vast pots of excess USD courtesy of Kissingers’ creation of the USD monopoly over oil pricing/sales. A cynic would suggest that the subsequent rise of extremist jihadis was forseen and deemed to be useful for the US/Anglo-Zionist Deep State.
Just to give everyone a laugh. It seems that 250 of the most experienced Ukraine ATO forces have been sent to the Congo – to act as peacekeepers! Orwell is not only turning over in his grave, he is spinning sufficiently rapidly to give us free unlimited energy if we could only harness it.
“Orwell is not only turning over in his grave, he is spinning sufficiently rapidly to give us free unlimited energy if we could only harness it.”
Thank you sir, best comment of the year. :)
Yes my friends, this is a war and it’s gonna get ugly.
Things are not moving in the right direction.
Israel is also created by the west. The only enemy of the “west” is anybody that opposes them. See Iran, China, Russia, etc. Now enemies of the people, not crooked govs, is a different story. My enemy is NOT Russia, China, Iran but the Zionist…and wahabis.
From what I read Trump was mad at Flynn for two reasons. First he thinks in retrospect that the immigration ban he was pushed to sign by his advisors was a botched legal job. I guess that includes Flynn. Second it seems Flynn did lie to Trump about this, and I can’t see this flyîg with Trump.
Key Trump assets are hiring/firing and negociating. Maybe Flynn wasn’t up for the job. I’ll wait to see who he picks instead before making any call.
“I’ll wait to see who he picks instead before making any call.”
The Saker is normally ‘strategically’ a few days/weeks late on response to tectonic shifts … here he seems disappointed and early.
For those of us with a HCIS (High Cynical Index Syndrome) Trump and his circus clowns were simply a lesser flop than Clinton and her criminal gang.
Different finger puppets in the kid’s burger: same business hand on the till(er), imo.
Happy to disagree with Saker this time – Trump is, thus far, a proven entity. He replaced his campaign director in his ” hopeless ” campaign with just 4 months left to election day with Bannon and Conway and they knocked it out of the park.
Trump has a good eye for talent and I am almost sure he’ll find someone like-minded as Kelly in relatively short order.
The good captain is revealed in the storm. Trump will do what he can. It’s up to us to set our jaws and move forward. OK – the deep state has declared war; Molon Labe.
im with you on this one, shame for the others for throwing Trump to the fire so quickly,, Have faith, the man is not stupid
Watching the senate hearings for the Trump nominees – all nominees had to express aggression towards at least one country. The US has lived by the sword and will die by the sword.. Sooner the better.
Hi Peter, I’m glad to find you here again. Regarding the hearings, I have watched them also, my first impression was that they were like some Gestapo hearings in the Third Reich times. And as you said, everyone had to say something to satisfy the Committee in order to get their approval. Actually, all of them have been cornered.
Flynn was already compromised by the very neocon elements of which you write: Michael Ledeen. Also, Flynn isn’t the only one who can serve unflinchingly in this position. But, the Trump team will have to look beyond the tight circle of ideologues with no governance experience in order to find a suitable replacement. And yes, I do have some suggestions.
If you’re indeed Cynthia McKinney, it’s an honor to read you here. Curious about your suggestions, although I’d probably know nothing about them initially.
Hey Cynthia !! Great and positive comment – I hope Trump can find his way – Saker’s article is pretty convincing and sad.
I have a feeling all that anti-Iran rhetoric, like the anti-Russia rhetoric by all of Trump’s candidates in their hearings (that Trump claimed was just them speaking their own mind, irrespective of his expressed core views), is for getting Trump’s team in place without too much resistance by his own Republicans who are, after all, sworn to the neocon/Zionist order. (Who would know that better than you, Dr McKinney?} That means Flynn’s participation in the book coauthored with Ledeen was perhaps a ruse. Sure, he could subscribe to the theoretical part that condemns Wahhabism in support of traditional Islam (as Ledeen, the neocon, would pretend to do, to look human). But the operative part took issue with not just Iran but also with Russia for their supposed support to ‘terrorism’. So it looks like the whole thing was for show. Trump could have stuck it out with support for Flynn. I think there might have been other considerations. (Flynn’s son was earlier an embarrassment with his pursuit of Pizzagate.) If the Saker has privileged knowledge about the critical and indispensable role of Flynn, now is the time to come out with it.
If you really are THE Dr. Cynthia McKinney: Happy Valentine’s Day, Dearheart. I proudly voted for you, and would love to do so again.
Cynthia McKinney – I’d be interested in your suggestions.
“I have been a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-socialist, a neoliberal, and finally a neoconservative.” – Irving Kristol, Neo-Conservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea
Ledeen is featured in, “The power of nightmares” documentary, along with Irving Kristol, Bill Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perle, et al.
In the segment with Reagan, we are told the neoconservatives, cold warriors, first suggested Muslim “terrorists” were being used by the former USSR and that Reagan should take this seriously and not try to “talk” with Russians.
This is based on a book they all read and spread through Washington. The book was discredited by the CIA, because they claimed that what was in the book…were CIA fabrications, used as propaganda against communists and their sympathizers.
When Casey becomes head of the CIA, he is sympathetic to the neocon world view of “democracy spreading”, and dismisses the assessment of the case officers who discredited the book.
Casey convinces Reagan, to court these “muslim terrorists”, as they are religious(using religion to galvanize public support is a a straussian view). Communists being atheists, neocons suggest these Muslims would be more sympathetic to America’s religious freedom philosophy and false “democracy” spreading. “democracy” is not in the Declaration of Independence.
“To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom.” Ronald Reagan
Wether or not Flynn was duping Ledeen, the neocons had a point man in the Trump administration, or Trump used Flynn to obtain support from the military and get elected by the same constituency the neocons duped(Irving Kristol, “Embracing the religious”) into fighting the “evildoers”, remains to be seen.
Given Flynn’s statements on Iran and as “Cynthia” suggests, perhaps you should take a look at, “the power of nightmares”, and listen to the words of Ledeen. The film was dubbed by critics as a “conspiracy theory”.
Adam Curtis originally intended to make a film about conflict within the conservative movement between the ideologies of neoconservative “elitism” and the more individualist libertarian factions. During his research into the conservative movement, Curtis discovered what he saw as similarities in the origins of the neoconservative and Islamist ideologies. The topic of the planned documentary shifted to these other two ideologies, with the libertarian element eventually being phased out.
As usual, if someone wants to understand what is going on in the world, he should look up what Nasrallah has to say. Finkelstein knows the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpIYHXHQOzA
As I expressed under Redford (February 14, 2017 at 8:56 am UTC) I’ll wait to see the next move.
However, if as the Saker implies, Flynn was a key knight on Trump’s board then perhaps he now has other ‘duties’ and freedoms to work across certain lines. Russians leaving the military to ‘free lance’ in the south east corners of the Ukraine come to mind.
In any case, one step back is sometimes a strategic move for another day. And if such a screw up then why isn’t John F. Tefft taking some heat for letting the trap be set?
Trump is muddling along and his approach (so far) reminds me of Deng Xiaoping’s “crossing the river by feeling the stones” analogy.
The task of reforming the corrupt and evil saturated DC swamp can’t be any less complicated than transforming China out of state communism.
I suspect Putin et al are just shrugging their shoulders and knocking another green bottle of the wall.
And I would add, the counter argument to your neutered Trump, although I agree reasonable, is the clear signal that “You’re fired!” applies to all and everyone. I doubt Pence is 100% bullet proof, nor beyond sacrifice if needs be.
He can’t be fired, but he can be assigned other duties. A certain vp Quail comes to mind. Agnew, anyone?
Taking down Agnew was the beginning of the end of Nixon.
That’s how coups work.
Carter: Hamilton Jordan
Reagan: Richard Allen
JFK: His brother was always in the gunsights.
Check your history and you’ll see the Deep State patterns.
Even Ike had ungodly pressure to drop Dulles.
Then “mistakes” overseas. And “false flags” to get the wars going big time.
REMINDER… “The dangerous deception called the Trump presidency.”
“I state clearly my conviction, and please recall this as Trump Presidency policies unfold after January 20, 2017 to see if I am correct or not: Donald Trump was put into office to prepare America for war, a war the banks of Wall Street and the US military industrial complex are not presently in a position economically or industrially or otherwise, geopolitically, to win. His job will be to reposition the United States for them to reverse the trend to disintegration of American global hegemony, to, as the Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz Project for the New American Century put it in their September, 2000 report, “rebuild America’s defenses.” ” (F. William Engdahl)
In less than a month…
“With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.”
Empire is Empire is Empire…
No all empires fall from Rome to Spain to England and we are in the final days of the empire, bankrupt with a stagnant GDP and a 100,000,000 unemployed and poverty on the rise.
For the first time since 1960 I didn’t bother to vote for the country is not governed by those we elect, but those in the shadows that pull the string’s as Chalmers Johnson said in his last book in the series” Dismantling The Empire” that it was “Americas Last Best Hope”, and I agree with the Saker that hope is gone and its going to be a very long rough ride to the bottom with wars and rumors of war…
Thanks for the great post Mr Saker, insightful as always. Being of Serbian descent I never had a real interest in US politics as nothing would change when it came to our political interests, be they historically or morally correct.
Naturally I despised the Bushes, especially the Clintons and like many supported Trump despite never truly believing he would succeed. We truly are in a historical moment in time and I share your thoughts regarding the “Colour Revolution” currently under way in the US.
I appears the powers that be are positioning themselves to remove him from office and I sadly predict that President Trump will lose out to the establishment who are hell bent to see his agenda destroyed!
My optimism that President Trump would bring about true change has been shattered by his somewhat reluctance to challenge those enemies within his own “party” and administration.
Sadly I only see this going one way and that is with President Trump walking away from this position in the foreseeable future as it is obvious the enemies abroad and within are determined to see him removed. He’s clearly over his head and the establishment would happily see VP Pence and the Republican trash continue the neocon agenda and ultimately draw us that step closer to war and destruction.
I never thought I would share the sympathies with the American people but the recent elections have demonstrated clearly to the world that despite all the posturing and illusions, the US is far from being a beacon of hope, freedom and prosperity. I truly believe President Trump genuinely wishes to “MAGA” but the opposition is too strong and with Flynn’s resignation it’s clear his team are working covertly to sabotage his presidency.
For the sake of world peace I pray that President Trump succeeds but my heart tells me he will falter and step aside allowing the enemy to continue to policies of death, suffering and enslavement of the American people.
In finishing I share your views regarding the unfolding developments and wish you and your family safety and continued success with the site. My apologies for the long post
All ok what written… but, if the stakes are so high, why were general Flynn and the Russian ambassador so naive?
Trump was brought in to trigger the world wide financial collapse and start war. Earlier Obama was brought in to the chant Hope and Change.
I would give it a maximum of 4 months time before the earth caves in.
Well you’re right about almost everything here Saker.
One slight quibble, I suggest Trump has always been setup man for a long planned US colour revolution, though I am fairly certain he was personally unaware of it, just as he was unaware he would win the election.
Nasrallah has it right. Trump is a limited character, a one term President at best. Most of us will be only too glad to be fooled again when Ms. Gabbard makes it to position 1 or 2 on the next Democratic Presidential ticket.
Democracy has always been a cloak for the oligarchy.
I hope that you may be wrong. it feels as if you are right. USA is over then for sure.
I always knew that hopes in Trump are baseless. I am actually happy about development, we already reach point where the war is the only escape, there’s no other way around. It does NOT mean we gonna have a nuclear war, Hitler could use chemical warfare during battle for Stalingrad. He didn’t use it., so neocons will not dare either, and if they do, well, a new beginning.
Well, Stalin, I confess I did have hope and still have some till Trump will meet Putin personally. (a few days ago, Putin said that he would meet Trump in Slovenia – that made to have some bad feelings)
If nothing positive comes out, then the war shall solve all the problems (as continuation of policy with other means…)
I guess you heard that picture of Russian ambassador’s assassination won World Press Photo award.
Disgrace!, they deserve the war. They are spoil brats, they will cry like little children.
After all is done we send Chechen to clean the swamps.
Another astute analysis from the Saker.
Trump is the periphery displacing the centre in a Corporate dictatorship, it is the same when the Grand Council of Fascism ousted Mussolini and arrested him, as Trump did to Hillary Clinton’s turn, but the real power exerts itself to reverse the decision.
Trump appeases because that is all that is allowed him, his victory was measured in days, and so perhaps was Obama’s. Probably there have been direct threats, this is common when anybody steps out of line with the empire, blackmail (based on real or fictitious evidence is also common), and bribes — these are not alternatives they come all at once. Being threatened, blackmailed and bribed is a common enough gangster’s tactic. Then of course there are the favours, the often fake evidence of misdeeds done by the closet allies, who ride to the rescue their own fifth column having prepared the way for them. None of this excuses Trump, he uses similar but milder tactics.
The weakness is leadership, relying on it, the saviour complex, that somehow someone will blaze the way forward and change things for us, the beaten and oppressed. It is not happening, either we take the initiative or we fix up the mess once the whole thing has exploded — we get all the danger and all the work no matter what.
I am an Australian, my country has been run by yours since 1975 after we enjoyed three years of Independence from the US and Britain, after ’75 we got US gangster-ism — no velvet glove. so my point of view is so-long as the empire collapses all is well. Trump was a faction, there is civil war in the US between the big and little barons. Let both destroy each other.
Trouble is when giants fight little people get squashed. The empire has been squashing people by the millions for half a century (and before that). So I have indifference as to who gets hurt, I just want it to stop. If the US people are the last victims, then so be it.
The alternative is that the people of the US do everyone a favour including themselves and take these fascists out. I use the term in its exact meaning as corporatism (where corporations and the state become a joint enterprise, fostering a class of managers in its wake). I also acknowledge something very few here have heard — this includes social fascists.
Back in the thirties there were right wing fascists and also left wing ‘social’ fascists, you might recognise this in George Orwell’s 1984. The fact is the liberals (social fascists par excellence) have buried this, while the militant right wing fascists have been distanced from brethren by being described as Nazis. Neo-Nazis are detestable, but strangely enough are not actually fascists so much as criminal gangs (there is a difference).
Left and right don’t make much sense when the enemy has its own left and right. So there are the corporatists (fascists ) and us, the people.
So without leaders the people need to push and push hard, otherwise the next lot of cannon fodder will be you, not the client states, but the home state of ultra-imperialism. You do the world a favour by doing yourself a favour.
My suggestion is open rebellion means unsuccessful slaughter, guns are not going to work. The common weapon sounds like a joke, and it is a joke as it now stands — the Law. Make the corporates subject to the law. And the first effort is not the corporates, but the judges — the judicial system needs to be purged first, and from the bottom up.
Look for corruption, look for tax evasion, conflicts of interests anything that should qualify a judgement for acting in the people’s interest and get rid of them. Never mind their sex lives, or opinions, just whether they would be fit to judge cases of corporate fraud, tax fraud, misappropriations of funds, running corporations against the interests of shareholder dividend payout, corruption etc.,
Start the pressure locally, start with the local collaborators, ignore the higher ups, get to them later. If you are right work with lefties if you’re a lefty work with right-wingers, work across the spectrum, but get the judges on the people’s side by getting rid of the others — not issue based politics, but on facts, those that hobnob with the local bigwigs instead of the people, of belonging to a club where where business does private deals.
Start doing the little things that will make local self-organisation possible and the key is not the police, not the politicians, but the judiciary. Gather evidence, and when it sufficient make it public and demand legal remedies, and if none come, then some direct action.
Your recommendations in the last para are wise. Unfortunately, Trump & team lack the required skill, and they thought they should go for the CIA first. So not, there they are: le bec dans l’eau as the French say…
RMM thanks. Trump could never provide what is needed. My view is that getting things right comes after getting rid of what is wrong. even if Trump was perfect with the perfect team and large coordinated popular support, he could not get things right, because of the attrition of the corrupt, and if these are ‘fixed’ politically rather than legally society suffers. New laws are basically a political fix.
Redeploying existing laws, applying them to corporate entities and gaoling offenders is how a civil society works. First reform the lower judiciary, they will deal with rather small corporate misdeeds, but they will arrest criminals, who will be systematically let off by higher courts, which makes them the target for coordinated reform.
The elimination of corrupt judiciary, the promotion of honest magistrates creates a dual power in the modern world, the old way was to organise force for a showdown, I am suggesting winning a war of attrition, not movement — they are weak there, anything else will be brutally suppressed.
Never mind their sex lives
@Greg Schofield —
Catastrophic mistake. Proof of sexual misconduct accumulated by the deep state makes it possible to dictate the votes &c. of Congress, decisions of judges and administrators, &c.
Without a one-time blanket amnesty — however morally revolting — deep state control of government will endure. If you want to end its control of the ship of state, you must remove its nuclear option : blackmail (threat of exposure/prosecution/bankruptcy/family impoverishment/dying in prison).
No way around this.
the whole Military Intelligence is rife with pedophilia and sodomy – I can’t imagine how Flynn avoided it – the whole top ranking guys are involved – watch video interview of Kay Griggs –
Flynn was probably blackmailed
Good point, but there are many types of amnesty. The first is the amnesty of tolerance, consenting adult sex mutual or professional, no matter how distasteful or strange, whether adulterous or not, should be considered private and off the table, but never kiddy-fiddling (actual rather than fictitious, in the real that is). Publication of tolerated sexual matters should be slammed, tolerance does not mean condoning, tolerance is what it says tolerating what is not condoned.
That is an amnesty that every civilised nation follows I can’t see why the US should not adopt it as it use to be the case. In Australia we tolerate a lot of things, ex prime minister Bob Hawke was a notorious womaniser a faithless husband, and his antics were a national laugh.
I also agree blackmail is one of the main weapons and sexuality is one of its mainstays. Its an puritanical extension of identity politics, I believe toleration is the amnesty. I think your logic and argument is correct.
Look at the other way, a corrupt person, rips off this person and that, they are a public menace. A corrupt judge that cheats on taxes, runs fictions companies, uses legal fictions to launder wealth is defrauding the public as a whole — it is a worse crime. By extension accepting bribes, favours, preferential treatment, corporate support is to provide inequality before the law, negate the whole purpose of the judiciary and again is a worse crime than tax fraud — it is at best a serious conflict of interest (serious enough for removal), but is usually the accepted method of tilting the judicial system which is, with evidence, criminal. and all the evidence has to be is that judge has accepted favours and their judgements demonstrate his gratitude to the social network that provided the favour.
Against this a man whose marriage is happy, but sexually disaster, visits prostitutes or keeps a mistress, or has fathered a child, is as is nothing — if only it was tolerated whilst terrible crimes are tolerated instead. Flint’s water poisoning is not a scandal it is a criminal conspiracy that stemmed from a criminal neglect. Banks that seize homes that they purposefully overvalued and over-lent of which we have a mountain of documents to show this was done purposefully — the banks are the ones that should suffer, not those desperate to own a house and were sent to them, by Real Estate agents and developer.
A sea change in attitude, on really simple stuff, has a disproportional effect. And today that is actually easier to achieve than ever before. My advice is to go to the local churches and argue that their fixation on sex is producing untold evils in the world and their moral righteousness is being misdirected. A direct confrontation on theological grounds etc.,
Sorry for the rant your point has been taken on board well and truly.
The first is the amnesty of tolerance, consenting adult sex mutual or professional, no matter how distasteful or strange, whether adulterous or not, should be considered private and off the table, but never kiddy-fiddling (actual rather than fictitious, in the real that is).
No rant at all. IMO this is the real elephant in the political livingroom. People are coming to understand who the orcs are, how they operate and what their objective is. They can be mentioned now without everything melting down in a storm of terror.
But that they have the whole US government, industry and military (pardon the expression) “by the balls” is not known so well. Nor is it appreciated that no necessary change can be expected to gain political traction so long as this iron control continues.
The trial balloon figure of 30% compromised is probably a gross underestimate. And we are not talking about marital infidelities with secretaries or “escorts” but romping with adolescents (both sexes but apparently boys are their favorites —
Franklin/Boys Town scandal, Sandusky/Penn State, pizzagate, et al.)
This may not be the place for it but, if not, where ? The “Age of Consent” to sexual relations in the early US varied, but was often put at 9 years of age (this when puberty occurred around age 17-18). I see this as no evidence of moral turpitude, but of hard-nosed realism. It was human nature (as you have the moral decency to note) that people were going to get up to stuff like that, and there was no need to make bigger issue of it than it was. If it stirred popular outrage, the perpetrator could expect to be lynched or, where I grew up, shot “in a tragic accident” during hunting season when he was in the woods. People took care of their own problems. And gravely mistrusted the judicial system where the ability of wealth and connections (business relationships and funny handshakes) all but guaranteed impunity.
We now take it for granted (see Goebbels on the power of simple repetition to create “public opinion”) that sex between an adolescent and an adult is the single worst moral outrage imaginable. In reality (I came to understand it inside the criminal justice system during 20+ years of working in it), making this a criminal offense, with the age of consent raised to 18 (completely ridiculous with puberty now happening in elementary school and given the “sexualization” of children by the orc media) was a strategic coup by the prison-industrial complex. By legally re-defining this as RAPE (!) and the perpetrator as a RAPIST (!) — well, repeat this often enough in court with an adolescent well coached by the childrens’ services caseworker to see herself as a VICTIM who was GROOMED by him (when the actual dynamics of the situation were often the other way around), and a conviction was a prosecutor’s easiest victory in an average month. Not to mention that the threat of sentence piling (pioneered during the Nixon years — prosecuting the same offense as as many separate crimes as possible, with sentences running consecutively) all but guaranteed “plea bargains” without even the expense or inconvenience of a trial.
Prisons love(d) this, as (except for homosexual pederasts) “sex offenders” (almost 100% White for some strange reason) are the most easily managed demographic of all. If a state prison (or private one) could house 2,500 of them, it could operate with a staff of, probably,10 guards per 8-hour shift.
Now, with the MSM and academia having turned sex with adolescents into the new “forbidden fruit,” the appeal of it to the idle imaginations of the susceptible is multiplied. The whole thing stinks to high heaven of rank hypocrisy, human exploitation and lives ruined by a system that exploits human frailties as profit & control opportunities.
Now I am ranting, so will stop here. Noting that there is a LOT more that needs to be said on this.
Once again, Saker was right…
And I was wrong.
I feel terribly ill this morning. It’s a disaster. Especially when I read, with horror, that Trump consider …. PETRAEUS(!!!!!!!!) for the job!! It’s amazing.
Why not Nuland or Kagan as State Secretary and Breedlove as Defens Secretary?
And what’s about Bannon? I can’t imagine that and Trump and Bannon are both totaly stupid and unaware.
Engdhal and Brandon Smith, for month and month warn that Trump is a fake from head to toes. Are they right.
If it is, we’ll soon see new tension with Russia and especially in Donbass. And if it’s true, we’ll see mainstream medias becoming very nice indulgent with Trump. Then, all the “liberals” and “progressists” who are shouting everywere again “Trump the fascist” will soon realise they’re cuckold, the medias batteries will now turn against them and they will very soon test what is the true fascism.
It’s a tragedy.
If Trump is sincere, without Flynn to protect him against the services, he’s dead.
If Trump is a fake…
I wonder whether it all depends on how fast a learner Trump turns out to be.
Not the best circumstances for learning.
But it looks like there is no other option.
Trump is the perfect President for America – ignorant, arrogant and lost – but sensing that something is not right. I am at peace since my father always told me: “Remember, even the best of them are snakes.”
Saker’s frustration is understandable. Seeing your hopes dashed is always painful. But the few Cassandras (yours truly among them) who had no hope whatsoever that anything good can possibly come out from making “America great again” kept their calm. We took the cold shower and puked in advance. ‘We told you so’ and in no uncertain terms:
William Engdahl (“The Dangerous Deception Called The Trump Presidency”):
“The project called the Trump Presidency has just two months before its formal beginning. Yet already the hopes and fantasies of much of the world are making him into something and someone Donald Trump most definitely is not. Donald Trump is yet another project of the same boring old patriarchs who try again and again to create a one world order that they control absolutely, a New World Order that one close Trump backer once referred to as universal fascism. Ignore the sometimes fine rhetoric in some of his speeches. Talk is cheap. If we consider rather the agenda that’s taking form even in these very early days of cabinet naming, we can see that Donald Trump is the same agenda of war and global empire as Obama, as Bush before him, as Bill Clinton and Clinton’s “tutor”, George H.W. Bush before him. There is no good side to what the world is about to experience with President Trump.”
And people refuse to see the elephant trumping through the rooms of the Trump Tower (and now of the White House), blinded by the ‘glamour’ of Ivanka or the ‘Sois belle et tais-toi’ Melanie (excuse my French).
But we keep calm because we are sure that if amateur analysts could see through the fog of deception, the Russians saw it long before. Be sure that all counter-measures are in place.
Zumwalt, F35, and now Oroville Dam.
You left off the Gerald Ford carrier.
But it is all part of Exceptionalism.
Remember that Trump has still plenty of options left. The fate of the US or, for that matter, of the world does not depend on mr Flynn whose judgement has shown so wanting that he would not have been the person to take down the bad elements among CIA et al anyhow. I trust in Trump’s fighting spirit and resilience, and I expect general Flynn’s resignation just to be a jump start to take on neocon elements in US governement and intelligence community seriously and, this time, hard and harsh. With whom in the lead, I don’t know, but remember that the US is a vast country with lots of folk competent and willing to accept the job of draining the intelligence part of the swamp.
As Pepe wrote, “The Swamp Strikes Back.”
Even though I respect The Saker’s opinion to a very high degree, I will have to disagree with some of the assertions made here.
But first of all, allow me to begin with what I agree with. This is no doubt a major victory for the neocons, the Deep State and the EU. This is a loss for Russia and the USA.
But, I’m not sure that Trump is done and dusted. From what I realize, Flynn did in fact breach protocol and the Deep State found a perfect opportunity to go on the offensive. It’s still within Trump’s power to appoint one of his own to replace Flynn. We’ll see.
But my main disagreement with The Saker is this. Trump (and his backers, themselves a minority within the Deep State) is not interested in cutting a deal with Russia due to any concerns about Wahabism, the neocons or any other such. Trump’s reason for wanting to withdraw the US from the NATO-GCC-ISR attack on Russia, was because he wanted to divert US power and energies against China and Iran. Trump also believes that the US is not getting anything out of its unconditional support for the EU and wanted to rearrange America’s posture.
The neocons, neoliberals and Eurocrats who oppose Trump so vehemently, believe that the EU project is sacrosanct (because it weakens and undermines Russia) that Iran should be brought on their side and used against Russia (only the most Zio-fanatics are not find of this proposition) and that China can only be faced down after Russia has been annihilated. If Russia cannot be defeated, then China must only be militarily contained (so that the PRC does not turn towards Russia in a serious way) and the “Free World” can only hope that China may collapse under its own contradictions. For the US Deep State, Russia must be fought against to the most bitter end, and on this, the Europeans are in enthusiastic agreement.
We’ll see how this turns out, but this development is nothing but deeply worrying. It would be stupid to sugarcoat this.
I always thought that “The Empire was, is and will be the Empire” and the president is merely the figurehead of this very Empire. That was obvious president after president, “beautifully depicted” by president Obama. To really make any changes you’d need a revolution which is totally outside the mental conceptions of Western peoples today, last not least lacking leading figures who could organize the people. Similarly, dreaming about Trump changing the world for a better one was an illusion right from the start. These who have always driven this ship along will, of course, now drive Trump. So… apart from a lot of shallow noise, what has changed? Nothing. And if that is correct it is still the better solution of whatever might be in the offing.
Trump is a trickster.
His job is not to make America great again – an impossible task anyway, as the Masonic project ‘America as the New Atlantis’ was a con job from the get go and was, like any film set, built primary as an eye candy and for temporarily use only.
The ZWO needed the USA as the launch pad, staging ground and propaganda central for almost resistance-less military-industrial subjection of the vast, still virgin goy-lands sprinkled all over planet Earth.
Who cared about the enslavement of South America, Africa, South East Asia, Bolshevik Russia, Maoist China as long Hollywood kept spinning out blockbuster after blockbuster, as long as NASA made everybody proud with their staged moon landings, as long as CIA lifetime actors like Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, Jack Nicholson, Ernest Hemingway, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk dazzled our eyes and minds with magic too good to be true.
Now that the project is almost complete and the USA bankrupt beyond repair, the ZWO faces the tricky task of ushering in a rougher phase, while making sure the blame doesn’t fall on them, but on conspiracy theorists!, Nazis!, White Supremacists!, Fake News bloggers!, sexists!, racists! and what not.
That is where Trump comes in. All he has to do is to upset the apple cart. Saying some right words at wrong time. And some wrong things at the right time. Taking the wrong decisions at appropriate moments. Playing the joker not once, but again and again.
This is the best we can hope for now. And Trump – Inshallah! – will deliver.
I was always cautiously optimistic about Trump. My expectations of his were rather modest. Of course, the very first thing that recommended him was the simple fact he is not Hillary. The second, perhaps, was his unortodox approach and what seems (still in the present, I think) to be a genuine desire to shake the establishment currently pulling the string in Washington.
He had some profound statements that were previously unthinkable from any US President (we’ll stop toppling regimes).
Taking all of that into consideration, and assuming that Trump has been sincere, there was always a huge problem for him: he is completely alone. He has no reliable allies to help him even start the battle with the power elite governing the US.
From his first day in office, it was clear they were going to oppose him at every step and Trump has little or no means to fight back.
I generally appreciate and agree with the Saker, but I think he is overly pessimistic here.
In my view, Trump has already showed to be willing to fight, but the resistance is too great for one man to handle. And Trump is, more or less, alone.
Well said, Mairon.
Can we get some name recognition for the Russians who were comparing Trump to Yanukovich from the start? Who were they?
You mean Trump is “White People’s Obama” ?
It is naive from the get go to think that Trump will undo the Neocons’ agenda that started since 911! Trump from the beginning should have made sure the backings of the majority of the American people including the immigrants, remain neutral on Muslim issues, Russia, any policies that the fake liberals would have reason to antagonize him with, in order to minimize protests against him, like the fake Obama and Clintons. Once elected, he could then implement his policies. His administration and presidency campaign may have been sabotaged from the get go so that they have reason to blame him with afterwards.
Flynn resigned during PM Abe’s visit and when N Korea fired the missiles. Could these be the reason for his resignation instead of Russia?
Look at the cuckold Trudeau and Trump meeting. Look at Trump when he is being forced to talk for the feminist agenda after 03:00. Just awful. This is total humiliation. He’s finished.
I deeply admire and respect The Saker.
But I think this time you rushed into final conclusions , while the game is just in its first few shots.
Trump still has infinite ammo : he can replace the hell out of whoever he wants to.
He won’t behave as a loser and cower down.
There’ll be counter-attacks , plenty I believe.
He’s calling the shots, not the neo-cons.
Mattis clearly states he hates wars, and … he is not a traitor ; he was put there to shield Trump – and he obviously agreed – while “barking war” for domestic consumption towards keeping quiet the warmonger crowd.
Smokes and mirrors game.
I think the core plan is still in place.
I don’t always agree with the Saker, but this time I do. The resignation of Flynn suggests that he was pushed out by the neocons and that Trump was unable – not unwilling – to prevent the push. Flynn’s lie, or cover-up is neither here nor there; it’s not the reason he had to resign. Trump has been left relatively isolated within his own administration. Unless he sacks some key figures, he will be politically vulnerable. So, Flynn’s departure is probably a sign of things to come: more neo-conservativism, more empire building, and more neoliberalism: back to the Washington Consensus – which never really disappeared.
“The resignation of Flynn suggests that he was pushed out by the neocons and that Trump was unable – not unwilling – to prevent the push. ”
I agree with this.I don’t have evidence.
But I think there must be more to the story.
As for the telephone call, so what? What about the Iran-Contra meetings in Paris that sank Carter by getting a promise out of the Iranians not to free the hostages until Reagan was being sworn in?
Same deal. Has anyone toldTrump about that?
Why not just say: Hey, there is no difference, guys! If that was OK, so was Flynn’s call to Russia to say “hello, and we plan to be friends wijoo.”
What is, actually, wrong with that?
There must be some other pressure on Trump.
This is probably Trump’s last chance to get a powerful loyalist near him.
He has made it easy for his enemies on the left and right with the Bannon appointment, immigration ban, and wild words re Iran, etc.
*puts on tinfoil hat
Didnt Flynn accuse Hillary Clinton of being involved in chip trafficking around the time of the Pizzagate shooter? I’ve also read that the new media face of the Trump campaign, Stephen Miller is somehow involved with the nonsense going on behind the scenes in the WH. Is it possible these things are related?
Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his son in law Jared Kushner are apparently Lubavitch Jews. That seems even more relevant to Trump’s weakness than Pence or anything much else. It was a group of Lubavitch rabbis who persuaded George Bush Junior to sign the so called “Noahide Laws” into American Law – which I find astounding, to put it mildly.
These so called “laws” demand the beheading of all people who practice “idolatry” . According to them I think the only religion on Earth which does not allow any kind of idolatry is Islam (perhaps also the Jains). Christianity definitely, according to these sinister people, practices idolatry in the form of The Cross and pictures of Jesus and so forth.
There have been rumors for years now about “fema camps”, but there are also photographs and videos of long white painted trains with UN painted on the sides. They are three storied carriages or cabooses with flat beds in between every few of these. Someone got into these carriages, years ago, and said that there are metal benches in them with ankle irons fixed to the floors.
On the flat beds guillotines were seen – “made in China”.
Which all makes my blood run cold. These Lubavitch really are as sinister as the original Levites!
A friend of mine who was in the Secret Service told me that, some years ago, they discovered a tank the “Jewish Defense League” had hidden in a warehouse in Philadelphia.
@Ivanka and his son in law Jared Kushner are apparently Lubavitch Jews.
They definitely are.That was a ‘secret’ only to the extent that nobody wanted to see it, although the sickening details were all over the place:
“Trump was raised Presbyterian. Before her wedding, in July 2009, after studying for over a year with Rabbi Elie Weinstock from the Modern Orthodox Ramaz School, she converted to Orthodox Judaism and took the Hebrew name “Yael”. She describes her conversion as an “amazing and beautiful journey” and that her father supported her studies from day one, due to his respect for the Jewish religion. She attests to keeping a kosher diet and observing the Jewish Sabbath, saying in 2015: “We’re pretty observant… It’s been such a great life decision for me… I really find that with Judaism, it creates an amazing blueprint for family connectivity. From Friday to Saturday we don’t do anything but hang out with one another. We don’t make phone calls.”Trump sends her daughter to kindergarten at a Jewish school in New York City. She says that “It’s such a blessing for me to have her come home every night and share with me the Hebrew that she’s learned and sing songs for me around the holidays.” (Wikipedia)
“Trump vowed to be an advocate for women and Israel. Regarding her father’s support for Israel, Trump said he would be “an unbelievable champion for Israel and for the Jewish people. You will not be disappointed.”@http://www.algemeiner.com/2016/10/28/ivanka-trump-at-florida-synagogue-my-father-called-before-jewish-high-holidays-and-said-you-better-pray-hard-for-me/
“The biblical story of Esther is an imperfect allegory for the Trump family, but as for Ivanka, the comparison isn’t half bad. Esther is a Jewish woman who conceals her identity when she becomes the bride of a powerful king. It is only when she reveals who she is that she can save the Jewish people from an evil adviser plotting their destruction.
Like Esther, Ivanka might appear to be nothing more than a pretty face until she shows that she’s the savviest person in the room. Like Esther, Ivanka has a familial, almost accidental position of influence with a powerful gentile political figure. And like Esther, Ivanka’s Jewishness is veiled: Something she describes as an important part of her identity and family life—she’s an Orthodox convert, but she rarely agrees to talk about her faith—is essentially invisible to those who don’t know it’s there”.She’s the Orthodox daughter of David Duke’s favorite candidate for president—and a perfect cipher for the anxiety of [email protected]://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/what-should-american-jews-make-of-ivanka-trump/498476/ So much for David Duke!
“Ynetnews reports: Businesswoman Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner have purchased a home in Washington DC in preparation for President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration. As a practicing Jewish couple, their impending move also necessitated joining a local synagogue. They Chose TheSHUL, a small synagogue run by international the Chabad Jewish community and outreach organization.
Rabbi Levi Shemtov heads TheSHUL, which has a congregation of 40 – 60 members, among them former senator Joe Lieberman, current Secretary of Treasury Jack Lew as well as several former ambassadors and Israeli dignitaries”.
It was never so ‘in your face’.
Other overlooked detail: ‘World’s Largest Jewish Center in Dnepropetrovsk’, ‘Dnepropetrovsk could be renamed – Jerusalem-on-the-Dnieper’
Would Trump abandon Ukraine?
No, not me.
I essentially agree with the premise that the conflict between the Establishment and Trump is basically over Trump being elected as someone who didn’t rise through, and was not acculturated in a conventional Establishment political milieu. I further agree that Flynn’s resignation represents an important Establishment victory. However, the notion that Donald Trump represented the last chance to avert a major US meltdown, that he aspired to significantly change the path our capitalist system is pursuing, is quite frankly, hyperbole. You endow Donald Trump with undeserved importance.
Donald Trump does not represent now, nor did he ever, a challenge to the prevailing neo-liberal system. Even if he had parried Establishment’s previous challenges, or goes to ultimately push back successfully against existing and future challenges to his policies, there will not be a historical, significant change to ruling class domestic policies. Any alteration in US foreign policies, would be selective, and would not persist in the long term. Donald Trump, for all his idiosyncrasies, is very much a ruling class individual, possessing ruling class ideology.
Reorganization of the national security agencies, relegating the power of the CIA to the Executive, bringing some measure of common sense to America’s foreign policies vis a vis the Russian Federation, pulling back on America’s bloated and unsustainable military engagements, while welcome, would not amount to a material and long-term change to the nature of the American system and its empire.
Working people would have lived, and will still live, in a society with inadequate and worsening healthcare, housing, education, and public infrastructure,;and with declining unionization rates and collective bargaining power in the workplace. They would and will still pay taxes to a government which would expend those funds on a gargantuan and growing military budget; and on assistance to giant corporations. They would and will continue to be indoctrinated by a government and mass media with neo-liberal and bourgeois ideology. Nothing critical would have, or will change, under a Donald Trump administration.
Foreign policy is shaped by the economic nature of the beast. America under Donald Trump, or any other candidate of the “two” party system, in the long-term must pursue policies which continue to inject excess revenue into the system. That revenue represents value extracted from other countries. Otherwise, the economic engine of the US will not expand, and the system will soon collapse upon itself. Inevitably, the dynamic of the system engenders conflict with any foreign power or powers which stand in its way. That is why any lessening of conflict with Russia or China or any other major actor on the world stage would be purely temporary, and selective in nature.
Donald Trump was no one’s last hope. Don’t bestow upon him a significance he does not deserve.
In other words, Trump is not of the crazies in the basement, but one the crazies on the main floor, as we had before GW Bush.
The only solution looks to me to be distributed leadership (real anarchy — no chiefs) and not looking for ‘leaders’ and ‘heroes’ to save the day. It has parallels with using relational (table driven) databases instead of the older hierarchical databases — a different model of organization.
Unfortunately, most people can’t yet conceive of or understand how this works on large scale — although they use it all the time among a group of friends which do things by consensus, and some people do it in worker-run businesses (which often takes a lot of adjustment for people to get the hang of).
Monty Pythons explains:
Dennis The Constitutional Peasant
This is an excellent article. Very realistic and precise. The thin hopes on Trump just got “wafer thin”, and it looks like we will all be in for a ride. So be it. Better to face the sad truth than fool ourselves. GREAT analysis, I will share.
Please deliver kindest and warmest regards to people in Donbass.
Greetings, and thanks and for work,
And perhaps it was never really about hope, but about many people just just keeping on working — and if one wants some hope one can find it in all those people who do.
In consolation to Mike Flynn leaving take a look at this:
Why Mike Flynn leaving was actually good for Trump by ex-CIA Robert Steele…..(not just a paper pusher he was actually clandestine for 10 of his years in intelligence work)
—Robert Steele: Dick Cheney, Not Donald Trump, Orchestrated Firing of Mike Flynn. Flynn Deserved to Be Fired, But Not for Talking to Russians—-
Duck Cheney is a known spy working for england.
He is an English asset for serving interest of england and anglosaxon cabal of 5 evil eyes.
I also want to mention the fantastic new book by the Legendary Dmitri Orlov – and an see why he is spoken of as legendary.
It is called “Shrinking the Technocracy.” Not to read this book would be a great loss.
Let me be clear.
If it is true that It is illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy (as BBC writes), then the past December Flynn-Russia’s ambassador Kislyak phone conversation should not occur anyway before he was officially appointed National Security Adviser.
Considering the hysterical activity and agitation of the neocons/deep state and their russophobia, they would not loss any minimal pretext to attack Trump and his collaborators.
The question is: was the ambassador aware of that? With no clear benefits from such early talk, it should have appeared as a possible trap, planted for a “delayed” explosion. As indeed it has been.
The results is that now Flynn had to resign… And Kislyak?
The problem is that Flynn lied on the highest level. It’s not a problem to have a phone conversation with the Russians or be Russian friendly. The problem is when you claim it hasn’t happened. Flynn should’ve known better. His resignation is not a sign of the deep state taking over, but a logic consequence after breaking the trust.
He didn’t claim it didn’t happen, and he didn’t break any trust. As said at the Duran, it’s a concoction — a pretense. The main purpose of the call was apparently to start arrangements between Trump and Putin and get some conversation started, and there’s nothing wrong with that — except for the ‘neo’-crazies who insist on making Russia an enemy. This accusation is abut the same as accusing Russia of invading Crimea. There is a technical term for it in political science: horse-s**t.
It isn’t the deep state trying to take over, BTW, but one of the factions therein. The US is in a political (and cultural) civil war.
I agree. Flynn’s “crime” was to talk to the Russians in terms of winding down Cold War II with Russia. His resignation is merely a symptom of the power struggle within the White House between various shades of neocons and ambitious individualists of various creeds and colours. One thing we don’t hear much about is Trump’s link with Henry Kissinger – the octogenarian warrior may yet give Trump some good advice.
I have been saying to everyone I know and posting on FB since Hillary entered the race it looks to me like the globalists could get more of what they want faster with Trump in the Whitehouse than with Hillary because they would have a better chance at destroying/blaming the liberty movement for the fiscal/social collapse planned. The only way to prevent the new administration from avoiding its promise to return power to the people is pro-liberty Americans opposing elected officials that were never drained from the swamp when they embrace globalism for the globalist plan abandoning pro-liberty legislation. How long can President Trump, his administration and America continue to endure so much subversion? There are endless criminal corrupt globalist organizations behind endless subversion’s openly against America/Trump
• CFR & Foundations behind the U.N. Agenda’s 21/2030/2050
• EU parliament
• Planned Parenthood
• All population control organizations
• George Soros and everything he funds
• The leaders of the global warming/climate change movement
• The mainstream media in the West that are controlled by global elites.
• The LGBT/feminist movements backed by the U.N..
• American public education institutions.
• The Vatican using Pope Francis openly laying the groundwork for a moral and religious case in favor of population control, all for totalitarian world government control
• The world’s largest corporations and multi-billionaires
• Militant Islam
• All of Obama’s Czars and thousands of other globalists like Obama working openly and not openly subverting America.
Very good points !
Stay in denial that this is a spiritual war, and you shall continue your quixotic attempts at forming order out of the imminent chaos, which is the persona of all ends of eras. The Saker’s true Vineyard is Israel, and its impending Tribulation; for now, all ex-pat Israelis are draft dodgers from the coming onslaught.
I am predicting ~300 comments in this post by tomorrow, and a false flag or even a war before French election.
If Vassarionevich says so, then I believe so. :)
Vissarionovich – fk mod
Folks, think about it, Trump’s campaign had a hole in it from the beginning; the contradiction of Russia Vs Israel. The relationship between those two nations is paradox: Russia contradicts what Israel wants in the ME. Trump can’t be pro Russia and pro Israel at the same time. If he supports Israel fully, he has to oppose Russia’s involvement in Syria and Iran. Besides, The encirclement of Russia by NATO also involves Zionists. The irony is that, most Jews in Israel come from Russia and yet, they antagonize Russia. Is being anti Russia from the beginning the work of Zionists or the West? Hope some here can answer this for me. Who benefits from being Anti Russia? I believe Zionists and the West may have huge benefit from elliminating Russia so that they can scramble Russia’s resource and land.
That being said, Trump’s base is his supporters, unless they come out in full force to protect him and make neocons back off, he will further be controlled by the Neocons and Zionists. Already, Trump is backing on issues such as One China policy, not having US embassy in Jerusalem (probably a signal for Zionists to oust Trump) .
The problem of firing/getting rid of someone for being “too pro-russian” is that this empowers anti-russian paranoia, Mccartism, and you never know who is next. This is a field day for those looking for russians under the beds.
Trump is an idiot because he endangered himself, as he too can be seen as “too pro russian”. He could be next. If Flynn lost his post for being too pro-russian, why not Trump too? He could be next.
The deplorables don’t want war and on some level (sex, “Christian values”) respect Putin as a straight shooter and despise all of our crooked arrows when they make any comparison.
If Trump had not said what he said about Russia and Putin during the campaign, he never would have gotten 10% as far as he got.
You can’t be afraid of your shadow. If you are, you’re just a dead man walking, and you may as well jump into your grave and pull the lid over your coffin.
Keep pushing on “Russia is OK with me”……the McCarthy record is already severely scratched and is even a broken record with a lot of Americans, and it’s becoming a sad joke to many of them. They’re sick of those pulling this mind control chain. It’s ridiculous, and more and more Americans realize it every day. Escalate till the chains break on many millions more, whose minds have been weak enough to put up with this nonsense for far too many decades.
That is a very very bad news. I am a german. The West is finished. No hope, no hope …
Don’t be so pessimist, the Red Army will come and liberate you
The trump regime really should be called the pence regime, since it is obvious now that pence manages it and trump is mostly the “showman” mouth and face.
The conversation of flynn and the Russian ambassador being the cause seems to me to be a phony reason. I speculate the real reason is something else. It could be about Russian relations, in which case, maybe flynn was actually more open to warming these, and pence/trump were not (trump having lied). They had a disagreement and flynn left.
It also could be about something else entirely, other policies flynn was tasked to work on, even a personality clash between flynn and pence.
It is also possible the israelis ordered flynn’s resignation for reasons unknown by me. They’ve done this before, and this whole scenario has a strong deja vu feel. Remember Andrew Young? They got him fired in almost the exact same manner, hyping a conversation he had with a Palestinian in their zio-gay media and forcing carter to fire him. Only in Young’s case, mossad spied on him and leaked info about Young’s meeting with Palestinians to the zio-gay media.
Perhaps mossad has something on flynn, they certainly spied on him. Regardless, perhaps they found out something, not necessarily to do with Russia, they didn’t like. With zionazis, pet goys have to be 100% unequivocally loyal or they’re out.
You know where is Netanyahu right now ? in Washington, wanting to meet with Trump.
vt – didn’t you ever see the video interviews of Kay Griggs ? Military Intelligence Wife Whistleblower – look it up –
Flynn must be involved in some of that cult stuff – its really bad – no one wants to hear about it but there’s so much pedophilia of young princes – Saudis – and then they are forever silenced – and Flynn being where he is in the Military Intelligence community – must have at least known it was going on…
He’s a creep and we’re fortunate he’s gone.
It’s just a dispute between 2 factions of the Zionist empire with Trump representing the more cautious faction. It is good he has been defeated this way so all the fools who think he could make any deals will have those illusions crushed. Even if his faction made deals they would be broken the second his faction is pushed out of power anyway, so such deals are worthless, just like the NATO pact not moving east.
Michael Flynn resigned late on Monday after revelations he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with the Russian ambassador to the United States before Trump took office and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.
“It’s obvious that Flynn was forced to write the letter of resignation under a certain amount of pressure,” Leonid Slutsky, head of the lower house of parliament’s foreign affairs committee, was quoted as saying by the RIA news agency.
Flynn was a strong advocate for the need for softer foreign policy toward Russia and his departure could slow Trump’s pledge to improve relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“The target was Russia-U.S. relations, undermining confidence in the new U.S. administration,” Slutsky said, without specifying who he thought was responsible. (MORE)
With all respect, I think the Saker blogger had been little too much in his optimism for late few months.
Trump is not gone tonight, but was gone when he turned his words, in admitting “Russians were meddling with the election” right after the brief conference of intelligence agency.
That was the very moment he surrendered. Not tonight.
I was giving up on him since then.
Lately he did associate with our awful dictator Shinzo Abe, why?
As long as he’s “asked”, not by Abe, but by the people who can tell what to do to Trump.
Quite opposing view to Saker at UNZ by Philip Giraldi (Article: Two Uninspiring Choices http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/two-uninspiring-choices/). He thinks of Flynn rather differently. He says that “Michael Flynn the National Security Advisor and Nikki Haley as U.N. Ambassador unfortunately did manage to squeak through and will presumably be well placed to wreak havoc over the next four years”. Also the same day Elliott Abrams, the certified neocon is dismissed. This tells a lot. I tend to lean towards P.Giraldi. IMO it is NOT a “huge” victory for the neocon cabal but may be quite the contrary.
Yes, I agree. It is sometimes necessary to see the persons who have said they will support your policies in action. Not only shall I await further developments on the political scene, but also further analysis from Saker. He’s not above correcting his assumptions when and if that is needed, and this sudden techtonic shift in the powers that be does need further analysis. The press is rushing to interpret it one way, which has me very leery of theirs. Not for the first time.
Thank you so much for link. Philip Giraldi has always been one of those I admire greatly.
Again, thank you.
Carmel by the Sea
Good thing too. Trump is a efin’ disaster.
I despise a possible president Pence, but to have someone stable at the US rudder would make me feel just a bit better. Trump is a train wreck running through more and more houses. People think they can control him, but they can’t. He wants to be in control, or look like he is, even though he has no idea of what he is doing. You can explain stuff to him, but he won’t listen or just doesn’t understand. He’s no genious, not even a business one. He is heading for tragedy.
I think Flynn was a trojan horse planted by the neocons himself. His history shows a career full of anti-Iran sentiment and an excessive push for a harsher approach toward that country, I can’t seem to see why his removal is necessarily a bad thing…
All those with anti-Iran sentiment are working for Israel’s interests firstly. Flynn is one of them.
As soon as they start anti-Iran rhetoric, you can immediately conclude who is behind them.
Saker, I am afraid that the only way anything will change is if the PEOPLE rise up and DEMAND change, possibly in a not entirely peaceful manner.
We cannot expect change from within the USG. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Trump is not powerful enough, he is no Putin or even a Kennedy. He is clueless and the only reason he rose to power was because he wasn’t Hillary.
Trump can still be worked with. But someone on “OUR” team must get an in with his administration.
It is the PEOPLE who must stand and demand change, demand an end to the Neocon infestation, demand an end to Imperialism, and demand an end to all regime change wars. It is the people who must demand that all those who Betrayed Humanity in their disgusting quest for power and self-aggrandizement be Punished for their crimes.
Do not worry. We will find a way to make it happen. And do not forget – You play a very important role in this process. Maybe you will find that one day, it was kind of like a self fulfilling prophesy.
You are premature. It will all depend on who Trump replaces him with.
In fact Flynn had already blundered by blaming Iran for attacking a US war ship, which they didn’t and called Iran the world’s biggest terror sponsor when it is Saudi Arabia. Flynn could have become a liability eventually and better for him to go now rather than later and I heard ex-CIA guy Philip Giraldi talk about this in this interesting read.
Once again I’ll state the biggest mistake here was Putin’s. Instead of ignoring the mountain of demonising press against Russia and Putin during the election of Trump, Putin allowed it to get to him, and he backed away in the aftermath of Trump’s election to ‘prove’ Trump was his own man.
But Putin’s decision created a vacuum (which was the entire idea behind the propaganda attacks), which Deep State agents all around Trump immediately filled. Putin should have moved heaven and Earth to craft a ***day one*** alliance to “fight ISIS to destruction”. Yes I know this would have been just PR nonsense, but that was all Trump had asked for daily on his election trail. With a guy like Trump, you race toward him, grasp him firmly by the hand, and promise him whatever he wants to hear. Putin did not do this.
Now Putin’s chance is dead. Trump is actually being successfully coerced to do and say anti-Russian stuff now. Nothing major, butenough to kill any hope to Trump working with Russia. And worse, the instinct in Trump to put Humanity’s greatest killing machine to immediate use is being successfully exploited.
We know Iran is the real target- not bluster over North Korea. But the bluster sets a tone that “rogue states” should not be allowed to advance their systems of self-defense. And that, of course, is the consistant cry of America against Iran. And for those of you who claim Iran is too ‘sneaky’ and ‘wily’ to give the USA an ‘excuse’- well sorry you are really clueless as to how this game is played.
Let me explain. Saddam after Gulf War 1 got down on his knees and begged the Americans to be allowed to offer them whatever they wanted in exchange for resurrecting the alliance America had with Iraq before the ‘invasion’ of Kuwait. His supply of oil to the USA would have been an economic boon beyond belief, so he did not get what the actual issue was. But we now know. Even tho Iraq was the idea Empire slave state, there were bigger plans in motion. The ***secular*** sunni state had to be destroyed so the skilled civilised sunnis of Iraq could be turned into slaves of the depraved wahhabi state of Saudi Arabia, and made the commanders of SA’s new extremist terror hoardes- butchers that we currently know as ISIS.
Saddam couldn’t imagine in a million years that his masters in the West wanted to Middle East to burn and fall to ‘sunni’ (actually wahhabi) extremist savages. After all the Deep State project, since the 19th century when Britain helped the Turkish Empire to fade away, was to encourage ***secular*** civilised Islamic rule. And those rulers of islamic heritage wanted to be as civilised as their brothers in the West- they didn’t want to hark back to medieval values or encourage their people to do the same. Saddam didn’t know that Tony Blair and the other demons had ripped up the rule book- and were determined to create hell on Earth within a lifetime.
PNAC made it clear that the 9/11 false flag would be the road to Iran’s ending. History shows their plans slipped- especially since the invaion of Iraq had no possible excuse, creating waves of revulsion amongst the general sheeple that became an anti-war sentiment. Obama was ‘accidently’ elected over Clinton slowing things down even more, and leading to the acceleration of the wahhabi terror play. Libya was taken out almost pointlessly (because Libya isn’t a good source of ISIS cannon fodder) simply because old animosity between the USA and Libya made it too much of a testing ground for the latter use of the same animosity between Iran and the USA.
For most Americans- Trump above all- Libya was the ‘little brother’ of Iran, and now the USA has finally ‘beaten up’ Libya, well it is ‘obvious’ it is time for Iran to go down as well.
There is but one issue now. Those Deep State demons that really run the USA have a level of power players beneath them that mostly think attacking Iran is the stupidest move possible. They can now jerk Trump around like a perfect puppet, but anyone Trump tries to use to put together the Iran war plan will hit long standing, well argued resistance. For conventional right-wing hard men, Iran is all lose and no gain. Sure, the racist psychopaths that frequently rule the zionist terror state of Israel are all for war with Iran, but this very fact is used as evidence that such a war would be utterly moronic by the right-wing thinkers of the USA.
Iran is the immovable object, but the demons are the irresistable force. And Iran only has to make one fatal slip- without even knowing it ***is*** a slip before successful demonising anti-Iranian propaganda takes hold. Of course, the BBC and every other zionist outlet has already tried attacking Iran every which way without success so far, but successful propaganda is as ‘trendy’ as a pop hit so you never know when a particular mud ball will stick.
We have a sense of this with the foul Soros HRW attack against Syria today, stating that “Syria used chemical weapons to take Allepo”. The Israeli controlled French government immediately demanded UN action against Assad. Of course, the demon play in Syria is done, but anti-Syrian rhetoric is just practise for Iran.
HRW is Soros and the US State Dept. Amnesty International is MI6. Neither is now trusted to the slightest degree by the informed, but the actions of both show current thinking and strategy of the Deep State.
Having lost Trump,Putin must now act ***immediately*** to save Iran. Giving weapons to Iran cannot do this. Having a public formal alliaince, with Russians working on the ground in Iran can. Of course the religious leaders who rule Iran distrust Russia, and Putin must do everything he can to point out that it is Russia protection or utter destruction for Iran- and to bluntly state the ***truth** – which is if the West does attack Iran, Russia will back off and leave Iran to its fate. It is prevention or disaster,
twilight – You are probably right: I retrospect, Putin should have been more proactive and made some specific alliance-forging suggestions with Trump/the U.S., for example regarding ISIS in Syria. And as far as Iran is concerned, it may be that Trump will order “surgical strikes” against their nuclear facilities, partly to reduce the pressure on him exerted by neocons and others and to try to diffuse the opposition against him and his rag-tag group of dissolute right-wingers in the White House.
I forgot to add this ex-CIA guy to the first. Robert David Steele …..on Mike Flynn. He thinks he deserved to be fired and he basically liked Flynn.
WikiLeaks chimes in:
WikiLeaks Claims Flynn’s Resignation Triggered by ‘Destabilization Campaign’
“Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://t.co/vKlX1Tqek1
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) 14 февраля 2017 г.”
Just speculation, or do they have something solid?
A Russian take:
Flynn’s Resignation ‘Won’t Have an Impact’ on Russian-US Relations
“The resignation of the US President’s National Security Adviser Michael Flynn won’t affect Russian-American relations because they are not shaped yet and there is, in fact, nothing to have an impact on,” Fyodor Lukyanov told Sputnik.
The political analyst further explained that it still remains unclear whether Donald Trump wanted to reset the relations with Russia with the help of either Michael Flynn or new Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. However, he again reiterated that it is impossible to have an impact on something that does not yet exist.
The expert explained that the attacks on Trump’s National Security Adviser for his alleged pro-Russian position were “something made out of thin air.” However he had to resign because he was not careful enough.
He further noted that there are still chaotic developments in the Trump administration and there might be more resignations coming.”
“The White House is under attack from elements inside the intelligence community” — Dennis Kucinich
An important interview:
Kucinich: “Be VERY careful. That’s my warning this morning. ……WAKE UP AMERICA… ”
“This isn’t about whether you’re for or against Donald Trump. Hello! This is about whether the American people are bystanders in a power play inside the intelligence community…. and whether we can be forced to go to war with any country. ,,,, A game is being played with the security of our country. I [Dennis Kucinich] don’t often share the interviews I do, but ask that you watch and share this one because it’s important.
What I don’t understand is this.
We see and read of the power exerted by the liberal/neocon “deep state” and their abilities to disrupt and damage Trump’s presidency.
But in order to get where he has gotten to today, Trump must have some powerful backers too.
So where are these powerful Trump supporters and what are they doing if anything?
Yup…am wondering about the 200 militaryeople said to be having Trump……any news of them? Maybe preparing a counter revolution on his behalf?
Saker, as you know very well my warnings that Flynn was the keystone, the means through which reform could come to IC, MIC, Deep State—the wombs of Khazarian Russophobia and Hegemony—I agree with you completely that your analysis is correct. It is over.
Trump will not be able to control Pompeo or Mattis.
Trump will not be able to penetrate the Deep State and uproot the warmongers.
Trump will not be able to end the Hegemony.
What he presented as stiff opening arguments against Iran and Russia are now weaponized with his signature on them. Ukraine will be on some budget line and kept viable. Syria will be a target again per Wolfowitz-Perle and Bibi.
Where ceasefire and peace was possible we will get more war and chaos.
ISIS will not be defeated anywhere soon. Russia will be forced to supply regular troops soon if it intends to clean out ISIS and al Nusra while it can. Or it will be bogged down (US goal for certain.)
Now, for what we must do: keep exposing the tools and persons who removed Flynn.
This was all at the surface of the Deep State. Most of the players were visible. No subtle, covert operation this assassination. And from that careful documentation we can keep “outing” the enemy within.
Trump, sadly, may have bought a one-term Presidency when he let this become a neocon issue.
His daughter and son-in-law tamping down his instincts to fight have been a huge disservice.
Bannon, a hegemonic ideologue in foreign policy, certainly would not protect Flynn. Bannon served the Naval Intel world in his career, and nothing good has ever come out of US Naval Intel. They plotted against their own man, JFK.
We, have, a hard choice. Despair and gnash our teeth, or continue to expose the evil operators inside the US government. Spare the Trump-bashing. He erred hugely. But it was predictable. Flynn was a wild card warrior. He was fearless and reckless in behalf of his mission. Trump sent him to the Russians. They had to know the outcome would be intense heat.
But what was unknown, the treachery in the inner circle. Pence is fully exposed now. Trump knows this clearly. He can’t share that with anyone. His circle is filled with like-minded who would serve Pence more comfortably than Trump himself.
Pence is Brutus. Watch him as he goes to the Munich meeting.
He is pure Neo-Con and a treacherous liar himself.
No greater threat exists to Peace than a traitor to the nation and the opportunity for Detente being thrown away.
Trump failed to protect his warrior. But the Intel agencies were withholding approvals of deputies’ clearances. They had denied Robin Townley, deputy for Africa a clearance for NSC. This signaled that they would undermine Flynn and Trump every day like the Dems have with the nominations and street riots. It was all Trump could do to try to get control of things. Messaging was scrambled, forward movement was stalled. He had to jettison Flynn. But it was all on him. He didn’t control Pence and marginalize him. He faced Pence and blinked.
Sad. Maybe Tragic. But, Trump has comeback potential. It just won’t be with the Intel Community.
He has to find leverage from elsewhere. Probably, why he’s talking to Chris Christie. I suspect DOJ and Sessions is one weapon. Maybe they will bring Christie in to DOJ, if he has a huge role, and use him to prosecute the leakers in Deep State. It’s only a guess.
Listen to Pence, watch Mattis. And know that Pompeo is more of the same in CIA.
Also, Kelly in DHS is weak and a go-along general. He’ll test the wind.
What has happened is Trump thought he had built a citadel using Flynn and the generals around him, with Mattis and Kelly. It has all been turned into a prison, and Trump is hostage.
background to these people
Ahh… an article on demonology at the Duran.
(Check out pictures of Abrams — clearly a creature from the netherworld.)
Demons, vampires, goblins and orcs, the occasional ogre.
Some crazies are made to live in the attic, while these prefer the basement and other underground abodes.
About the same gang as always.
(I see dead people. They are everywhere. They walk around like everyone else. They don’t even know they are dead. — The living dead — all psychopaths, surviving on human blood, so to speak.)
When Trump started loading up his cabinet with these ghouls and their associates or rivals it became obvious where it was going. As I said once before, the doctrine that states have no friends but rather interests this was saying the state is run by psychopaths, as that is precisely the mind set of psychopaths, individually or collectively.
also Forbes article
The Disturbing Link Between Psychopathy And Leadership
[but the percentages seem to be way too low, and the current system tends to weed out non-psychos: wolves like to hang out with other wolves, not with sheep, whom they munch on for snacks]
If Trump understands this, and its implications, I suppose he will resign in frustration. Does anyone think he will have the political and emotional stamina to persevere?
If one follows the logic that the globalist cabal touting the female was bent to attack Russia in early 2017, then the Trump election may has interrupted the schedule, but not, evidently, the plan, the war-plan, itself. They never gave up power…
The implication is that the war was scheduled, and still is.
Repeat. The implication is that the march to war is ongoing and deliberate.
Putin is yet to accept Flynn’s resignation, so there is still hope
Well Saker, I’m going contrarian, which does not necessarily mean 180 degrees.
I viewed Flynn’s appointment as plus/negative, positive re Russia, negative re Iran. It’s still potentially positive re Russia as Tillerson is still in.
To write off Trump so early in his Presidency is really not very helpful, considering the monumental task he has of taking on the very corrupt establishment, did you think there would be no blowback? Also, clearly Trump is inexperienced politically and doesn’t know all the ins and outs of the political establishment in DC, so has to find his feet.
A big plus is that we have moved away from warfare and potentially a nuclear holocaust – if anybody thinks that mere radioactive fallout from exploding warheads is survivable hasn’t taken into account something which is far more deadly, how about many more nuclear power reactor failures like Fukushima, or worse?
Another point which has been overlooked is that he got rid of nuland – or at least she couldn’t work under him – either way I see that as major (personally) together with the much less hostile if not almost indifference to the Donbass, with kiev in turmoil. It was reported that a US warship won’t now visit Odessa – small but unmistakeable changes happening.
There is an old saying; “When you’re up to your ass in alligators it’s easy to forget your original intention was to drain the swamp.”
The single greatest lesson I learned in a decade of trying (and failing) to change national policy is that success is measured in inches, not miles. Bureaucratic inertia is a highly under-rated force in its own right. Real change can only be generational. Unless and until there is a “b” team of keenly aware and circumspect underlings who see the problems and understand the patience required to make incremental change, there will be no meaningful change.
Success isn’t home runs (although most who desire positive change would welcome the odd one). Real success is bases-on-balls, running out infield hits and bloop singles and advancing runners.
Trump must remember business 101…under-promise and over-deliver. If he wants to keep the tens of millions who voted for him engaged and positive he must deliver on small promises. I am dismayed that so many here see the “beginning of the end” instead of “the end of the beginning”.
Flynn (more than most) knew the rules going in and he blew it. His sins are sins of over-reach and forgetting the basics of protocol. His sacrifice will encourage others to step up. The dream of untangling the web is not dead. Too many millions (arguably billions) demand meaningful, positive change…those who have faith understand it will be a slow and sometimes painful process.
Dear Saker, don’t lose your faith
Real success is bases-on-balls, running out infield hits and bloop singles and advancing runners.
@Simon Wagstaff —
Allow me a moment of comedic relief in this tragic drama ?
This is true as a general principle. But somebody PLEASE get through to Clint Hurdle (Pittsburgh Pirates Manager) that wasting outs by bunting runners from first to second predictably results in them being stranded at third.
Small advances are potentially valuable, but when you run out of outs to achieve them they were mistakes.
if there is any reason to save the Trump presidency, Pence needs to be isolated asap – w/removal of all Republican loyalists within WH including Priebus.
More to come re Pence role on how this all unfolded.
All politics is smoke and mirrors ie cabinet appointees – watch what we do; not what we say. Tillerson and Sessions esp forced to grovel by R’s and Dems –
One benefit to all this has been public revelation of Dems as partners with the Deep State parties. The true depth of their betrayal to the country is now undeniable as we already knew R’s could not be trusted.
ie payback coming re Lizzie Warren’s vitriol on Sessions. her poll numbers for 2018 election not looking good.
Cynthia – if those suggested names are viable, keep to yourself so as to avoid public exposure …at this point perhaps best messenger may be Ivanka
The entirety of tRump’s foreign policy doesn’t revolve around Flynn’s status. Has tRump decided to reinstate the TTP and TTIP as “trade” policy goals? Decided to not renegotiate/pull out of NAFTA and other so-called trade pacts? Pull back/reconsolidate the Empire of Bases? Attempt to totally disrupt China’s OBOR or Russia’s EEU through the use of terrorist proxies as HRC’s Neocons planned? Then there’s Flynn’s illogical hatred of Iran and the complications that posed for reestablishing cordial relations with Russia. And those points are just a few of many.
IMO, Saker and other commentators have reacted in knee-jerk fashion to Flynn’s resignation, for he didn’t represent the be-all/end-all of tRump’s foreign policy agenda. I’m far more disturbed by many of tRump’s cabinet choices plus the fact that they were confirmed despite their lies and criminal actions, which is what’s provoked most of the resistance to the current national government–congress especially.
yes, and there’s more… Apparently the media makes their bets on VP Mike Pence … very similar to what happened in Brazil… same method, anyway…
“Pence molds the government in his own image
Pence and his team bring an entirely different ethos and set of values to the administration.”
Alexander Mercouris posted article on the Duran…believes Trump’s nominations cabinet picks will be approved eventually……