What Becomes of NATO After The Loss In Ukraine (Gonzalo Lira) 25288 Views February 03, 2023 Speeches, Statements and Interviews The Saker The Essential Saker IV: Messianic Narcissism's Agony by a Thousand Cuts Order Now The Essential Saker III: Chronicling The Tragedy, Farce And Collapse of the Empire in the Era of Mr MAGA Order Now Tagged Gonzalo Lira
Pivot to asia . Pivot to west europe . So many its spinning out of control.
Desperate times call for desperate measures, and having too many balls in the air at the one time leads to chaotic outcomes to such an extent that the US is increasingly showing the world that it is floundering.
Their reaction to the Chinese balloon fiasco was just laughable. Shoot it – no, we’re not going to shoot it.
No-one is in control – it is a nation ruled by competing factions. Unless a faction emerges that is focused solely on keeping the country together, then collapse is inevitable.
I wonder if that’s what this is – a literal “trial balloon”. The super secret information to be gathered wasn’t so much anything the sensors on the balloon could gather as the ultimate question: What will those American baboons do about it? It seems the Chinese have their answer. We are smacking our lips and throwing our feces at each other.
The first thing that happens if NATO crumbles is Turkey and Greece resume their war. I’m not so sure Europe will have the attention span for a war against the Yellow Peril.
NATO is not a defensive alliance.
NATO is an aggressor alliance.
Since the end of the First Cold War, NATO has attacked Serbia in the 1990s; Afghanistan as part of the bogus “War on Terrorism” in 2001; Libya in 2011; and now is fighting Russia in a proxy war that it deliberately provoked. These wars are all premised on lies.
The NATO agenda is not defensive.
The NATO agenda is to act as a sock puppet for the Americans to advance what has been their driving ambition since the end of the First Cold War: American world dominance.
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This war on terrorism is bogus
As suggested by Zbigniew Brzezinski in his influential book _The Grand Chessboard_, American world dominance means that the USA must subordinate Eurasia in particular–which is to say Russia and China.
So if America/NATO is losing the Ukraine War, what will it do?
Provoke Ukraine War 2.0 against China, with Taiwan as the Ukraine of Asia.
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China and the US strategy of bait and bleed
As mentioned by others, it is a misunderstanding that NATO is an alliance. It is occupation by Empire.
The only country strong enough to break out of it was France under degaule, he survived multiple assasination attempts by NATO, still in the end France was put back in the Fold by social engineering.
There is no room for dissent or national interesst in NATO. It has its Staybehind/Gladio networks to make sure any dissenters get back in line. Look at Norway. After Jens Stoltenberg as PM singel handedly joined the Libya bombing, and afterwards OK it with other political leaders over the phone in the evening, some of the leftist coallition got cold feets about what they had signed up for and wanted to pull out.
Enter stage left, Mr. Breivik the Nazi killer. Exterminating half of the youth labour camp of the party of Mr. Stoltenberg. Who conveniently was not there at the moment of the massacer. After that, and some crocodile tears about our democracy … the Libya issue dissapeard from public debate.
NATO is an Empire army, and bar a structural breakdown in the individual countries, they will all be sendt to their death like Ukraine. Oceania don’t care, anymore than they cared in WW1 & WW2.
Breivik is bullshit.
There was two professional shooters at the island.
When Breivik drew all attention to him, using flares, they left by standard Nato underwater vehicles and thats also why Breivik had a wetsuit on.
In case they lost control of the police and Army, and Breivik would also escape the same way.
There likely also was extended border controls in the days leading up to the event.
I crossed the Swedish border into Norway on some remote minor road the day before the event, and got stopped by what I at the time thought was customs. Only thing is they seemed real nice and bored out of their mind. Unmarked car by the side of the road, no markings on their ‘Nato’ sweaters of either customs or police. Half hearthed search of the car.
By the way… You say “Nazi killer”…
Does Nazi stand for Nationalistic Zionist?
Looks that way to me…
I understood he was a zionist, so yes. The BDS initiative from AUF sort of petered out after this.
Frightening is that at the end of this Gonzalo video the screen appears of other videos to watch or select next, and they are all US propaganda bullshit, CNN ? LOL. Check it out, one can only imagine the amounts of money the US pours into a warehouse full of men and women sitting in thousands of cubicles making all this sh^t up, running the narrative of the day. Disheartening, but then again, all that to counter some bearded guy in a common T shirt and a stupid baseball cap speaking off the cuff of world events as they occur to him. Priceless.
“To introduce into the philosophy of war itself a principle of moderation would be an absurdity.”
― Carl von Clausewitz, On War
There is little moderate about NATO aggression, the Ukraine War and the continuing possibility of nuclear war.
There is that great gambler’s expression, “doubling down”, which we now hear so often, and so often that even NATO apologists have stolen it, applying it to Putin, like he is the one dangerous gambler, always doubling down.
When Putin refers to nuclear war, he is ostensibly the one threatening nuclear war, rather than the rational one, warning about the danger.
* …only the element of chance is needed to make war a gamble, and that element is never absent.
* …in the whole range of human activities, war most closely resembles a game of cards.
* Although our intellect always longs for clarity and certainty, our nature often finds uncertainty fascinating.
On War, Book 1, von Clausewitz, Wikiquote
America’s real leaders are sidelined. That includes most of the writers on this site.
But few have been more sidelined than Ritter, and that must be on orders from the highest and most corrupted authorities in America.
Strength of character does not consist solely in having powerful feelings, but in maintaining one’s balance in spite of them. Even with the violence of emotion, judgment and principle must still function like a ship’s compass, which records the slightest variations however rough the sea. (Original German: “Ein starkes Gemüt ist nicht ein solches, welches bloß starker Regungen fähig ist, sondern dasjenige, welches bei den stärksten Regungen im Gleichgewicht bleibt, so daß trotz den Stürmen in der Brust der Einsicht und Überzeugung wie der Nadel des Kompasses auf dem sturmbewegten Schiff das feinste Spiel gestattet ist.”)
* Ch. 3
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The antiwar “movement” needs to clarify its priorities
It’s not about the future of NATO so much as the future of America;s real leaders, namely people like Raevsky, Martyanov, Lira, McGregor, Ritter, Margolis, and Morris. And the real list is is immeasurably longer than that and includes the real friends of America, foreign and domestic.
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The Beatles – Back In The U.S.S.R. (2018 Mix / Lyric Video)
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No amount of truth can stop the world’s most powerful war machine fueled by the lies of its president
One of the things I think the next president has to do is to stop fanning people’s fears. If we spend all our time feeding the American people fear and conflict and division, then they become fearful and conflicted and divided. And if we feed them hope and we feed them reason and tolerance, then they will become tolerant and reasonable and hopeful.
I imagine that many Obama followers think they are doing Obama’s will when the censor dissent in the name of moderation, and and in the name of preventing NATO western fear, conflict and division, but it is only because they wish to cause all that in Eastern Europe, with no peace or love or consideration or real desire to end the war.
Matthew 5:9 (KJV)
Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
“I was a volunteer firefighter at the time, and early on the morning of February 14, I responded to a fire at a local restaurant, Alteri’s, in Glenmont. I was the Lieutenant of Engine 22, and we were given the task of mounting an interior attack on the second floor of the restaurant building, where the fire had gotten into the roof and walls. This was the last chance to stop the fire from destroying what was a popular neighborhood destination. (Indeed, my wife and I had reservations there that night.)
My job was to advance a 4” “Blitz” line up the stairs and as deep into the second floor as possible. Another firefighter covered my advance with a 1 ¾” handline, and a third helped feed the “Blitz” line to me as I made my way into the building.
Getting up the stairs was difficult, with the handline having to knock back flames which were coming from the ceiling. The heat was insane, and I was knocked to the floor immediately. I crawled forward, advancing the “Blitz” line, and every inch forward felt like I was moving further into hell. I got about 20 feet into the building and could go no further. My gear was soaked with water, which the heat was turning into steam. I was literally being boiled like a lobster.
As I directed the stream of water into the ceiling and walls, I looked up, and saw fire over my head.
The entire time I was advancing the line, the weight of the circumstances I was facing at home confronted me. I was in the middle of a burning building. All I had to do was roll over, take off my mask, and inhale, and it would all be over.
No more worries.
I must have thought about that for a few seconds before I heard the other firefighters shouting at me. “Get the fuck out!” they were yelling. The fire was too deeply seated in the building, and we weren’t making any progress.
I looked up at the ceiling one last time. It’s now or never, I thought.
Take off the mask.
Instead, I backed out of the second floor under the protective stream of the handline and withdrew down the stairs.
We had lost—the fire had won. A few minutes later, the second floor collapsed. Alteri’s was destroyed.
I walked away from that fire determined to fight for my life. For my family. For my friends.
And I’ve been fighting ever since.”
Aside from all my other errors, I have to at least correct the link to Back In The U.S.S.R..
It seems thematically and genealogically related to the Beach Boys, California Girls.
California was humanized in the public eye by the Beach Boys. The U.S.S.R. was humanized by the Beatles, antithetical to the values of the Cold War.
So music can be a true wonder weapon, but it has always been suppressed, as required, when it comes to the Antiwar movement.
Pete Seeger Guantanamera
Many say there are no military wonder weapons. But nuclear weapons are the true wonder weapons. We are allowed to forget.
‘MORE than 140,000 people died when the US used a nuclear bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima some 76 years ago today – but for the survivors the horrors had just begun.
“Ant-walking alligator people” roamed the devastated and irradiated ruins as men, women and children left alive suffered horrific burns and radiation sickness.
The phrase describes some of the most horrifically injured people in the aftermath of the nuclear fireball from the “Little Boy” bomb on August 6, 1945, at 8.15am.
Faceless and eyeless, they were horrifically burned by the blast with their skins said to have been left blackened, cracked and scaly – just like an alligator.
And the ant-walking description comes from their behaviour as they blindly roamed the broken and corpse-filled streets of Hiroshima. Japan.
Witnesses claimed these hopeless and shambling wounded would end up following each other in lines as they desperately sought help – like a march of ants across a garden path.’
NUCLEAR FIRE Horrors of the ‘ant-walking alligator people’ of Hiroshima whose eyes & faces were burned off with skins like scales
The U.S. Sun
As for artillery, it was the wonder weapon of World War One, and the Iran Iraq war.
At 41:44 Seyed says, “The war in Ukraine is infinitely more costly (than the Iran Iraq War). From what I’ve seen the sheer amount of artillery that’s been used is just incomparable. I would say that what’s happening on a daily basis in Ukraine is equal to the most intense battles that we had in the war. Our intense battles would last a few days, or at most a few weeks. Each year we’d have 1 major battle or 2 major battles or 1 major operation, or 2 major operations, in a limited area, like 50 km or 100km. This war is just so intense, I really, especially I feel sorry just for ordinary Ukrainians. The fire, the artillery, the explosions that they have to endure, I think that for many of them, dying would be a better option than surviving because the psychological damage that this sort of thing causes, I think that most people just can’t comprehend that. So this war is helping to, … is depleting the energy of these declining powers and that could create major change. It could be in the long run make the Europeans and the Americans more realistic and behave in a more sane manner, but then again, it could make them take very, make very foolish decisions.”
Simply wonderful wonder weapons.
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It was the war to end all wars.
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Now we call it TBI or Traumatic Brain Injury.
Another miracle and wonder of modern warfare, and we are getting better and better at it all the time.
As for nuclear war, everybody dies, as Ritter says. The suffering en route is optional.
Good point, but I don’t think there will be any appetite after this to go after big guys.
They always go after little guys. They’ll find a little guy for target practice like they’ve always done.
China does not stand alone. Russia will be there as backup. Iran will help.
The US needs Japan. That would ignite both Koreas if Japan goes into their Imperialist Military profile again.
Even the four new Philippine bases the US will have will be easy targets for China.
A war with China is suicide for the US forces in the Asia Pacific.
NO, Gonzalo, don’t pretend, as the USA always does, that NATO ie the USA is “protecting them from the evil enemies”. The USA invents enemies then pretends it saves its “allies” ie puppets from the enemies which have been manufactured by the paranoid USA. Russia tried for so long to cooperate with the “West” and was rejected. It deserves respect and security like any other country but the USA/NATO will not allow this.
Nato is just a Foreign Legion for US Imperialism its that simple,same as Hitler had foreign legions from all occupied Countries,many of which are now Nato members.