First, I want to present the parties to the conflict and describe their intermediate objectives and final goals
|The USA+UK+3B+P||Force Russia to openly intervene||Recover total control of Europe|
|The EU (mostly northern)||Force Russia to openly intervene||Deflect blame from its own leaders and failures|
|The Nazi regime in Kiev||Force Russia to openly intervene||Cut-off the disloyal eastern Ukraine and retain political control of the rest of the country|
|The LDNR||Survive until Russia intervenes||Integrate with Russia|
|Russia||Prevent any escalation||Partition the Ukraine|
The first thing we notice is that three of the main actors (USA+UK+3B+P+EU+U) want to force Russia to intervene. Why? Because as I have written a million times already, the goal is not to defeat Russia militarily, the goal is to defeat Russia politically. Any Russian intervention will be used by the Anglos to “prove” that “NATO is vital for European security” and for the 3B+PU gang to prove its utility to their Anglo masters.
As for the Nazi regime in Kiev, it main goal is to survive, blame the destruction of the Ukraine on Russia and to get rid of disloyal territories. The fact that these eastern Ukrainian territories would be liberated and/or recognized by Russia would allow the Ukronazis to declare an eternal state of emergency, destroy whatever little is left from the opposition by calling them “traitors/collaborators” and to blame any internal problems on Russia.
For the LDNR things are much simpler, in a stark way: they need to be capable of surviving long enough until Russia is forced to intervene.
Now let’s look at what the outcomes the main parties want to avoid:
|Entity||What to avoid||Why|
|The USA+UK+3B+P||An open war with Russia||Unwinnable and potentially suicidal|
|The EU (mostly northern)||An open war with Russia||Unwinnable and potentially suicidal|
|The Nazi regime in Kiev||LDNR survival without a Russian intervention||Politically suicidal|
|The LDNR||A quick Ukronazi breakthrough their lines||It would be a bloodbath|
|Russia||An open war with the US
Taking control over much/must of the Ukraine
|Unwinnable and potentially suicidal
Now we can look at what “tools” each side has
|The USA+UK+3B+P||Provide weapons and PR support||Encourage the Ukronazis to escalate|
|The EU (mostly northern)||Provide weapons and PR support||Encourage the Ukronazis to escalate|
|The Nazi regime in Kiev||Escalate||Force Russia to intervene|
|The LDNR||Survive until Russia intervenes||Integrate with Russia|
|Russia||Delay any open intervention for as long as possible||Integrate with only the eastern Ukraine|
It is absolutely crucial to keep the following things in mind:
- Neither the Ukronazis nor their bosses in the West believe for even half a second that the Ukraine can win militarily. They all *know* that the LDNR+Russia will win any military confrontation, and it is their goal to secure a bloody Ukrainian defeat.
- The main target of the current strategic PSYOP are not the Russians, but the Ukrainian people: by telling them that a) you now have super dooper Wunderwaffen and b) we got your back, the West wants to convince the Ukrainians that they are safe from an outcome like 08.08.08.
- The Russians *know* that this is a trap. The problem is that with every passing month the Ukraine acquires more and more capabilities to, no, not defeat Russia, but to force Russia to take the bait. Remember their idiotic attempt at forcing their way under the Crimean Bridge? Well, this entire Bayraktar thing (whatever this really was) is exactly the same, but unlike the Ukie Navy which does not exist, there are between 6-12 (depending on sources) Bayraktars available to the Ukraine, with a range of 150km and a weapons range of 8km. If and when future Bayraktars eventually fail, as they will, then the Ukies could use even outdated cruise of tactical-operational missiles. In other words, and only in this sense, time is on the Ukie side: the more the West provides them with toys to provoke (as opposed to win), the worse the internal situation, the more incentive they have to do something really provocative.
In the last couple of days, I advocated for a no-fly zone over the LDNR. I still do. But I need to clarify the following:
Any Russian no-fly zone over the LDNR will be used by the West to send Ukies in harms way, thereby, again, to escalate the conflict. Yes, a no-fly zone would buy Russia more time, but does she still need more time and, if yes, how much?
I don’t think so. Yes, between 2013 and 2021 Russia vitally needed time to prepare for any contingency. But now I think that any further delays would be counter-productive: it will make Russia look weak and hesitant and providing no objective benefits (not military not political). Militarily, economically and politically, Russia is now stronger than she ever was in a very long time.
Frankly, the entire Ukrainian issue is just the tip of a much bigger political iceberg: it appears that, once again, the united West needs to get a brutal smackdown (political and military) from Russia. I want to illustrate the Russian approach with the following personal recollection:
Many years ago, in 1993, I spent a entire night talking to two officers of a special forces unit whose main mission was to protect Russian nuclear weapons not by passive, static, defenses, but by proactive counter-infiltration methods: they would not stand guard around the weapons, but they would do what an attacker would do: hide in its proximity and try to detect any intruder even before he got anywhere near the Russian nukes. They mentioned their training and one of them said this: “yes, sure, we study martial arts, but for us to run around a hot room in a Karategi or in shorts (he was referring to the typical outfit Karate or MMA fighters wear) makes no sense. Our terrain is the Taiga, thus we need to train fight, even hand to hand, in full winter combat gear with backpack, weapons, ammo, food, radios and more (50kg easily). In this terrain, which only we are truly trained to survive, we can run circles around any super dooper western special forces intruders, we can watch them slowly die without even engaging them and then, when they will be too weak, exhausted and desperate to even move, we will come out and just spit at them, without even having to fire one bullet“.
1000 years of existential warfare have taught the Russians to take their time, even a long time, to wait until their enemy is at its weakest and you are at your strongest before engaging him. But that approach has its potentially negative aspect: it won’t work against an enemy who was not send in to win, but who was sent in to lose.
If your enemy is dead set on losing, then you really have no choice other than the choice of how/when to defeat him.
Furthermore, the Ukies are not the enemy, they have no agency, the real enemy is the West and it is this collective West which Russia must defeat, not its Ukrainian cannon-fodder.
Even if the Russians succeed in, somehow, getting the Ukie back from the brink (which already happened twice in the past), this only guarantees that the next time around the Ukies will come up with an even more “provocative provocation”. So why wait any further?
So the real battle is not for the LDNR or the Ukraine, it is a battle for the future of the European continent. Russia needs to do what she did to Georgia in 08.08.08 not “just” to the Ukronazis in Kiev, but even more so to their patrons in the US and EU. Yes, the Ukie military must be de-fanged, but in such a way which would force the EU leaders to come back to their senses and give up their current war (80% informational, 15% economic and 5% kinetic) against Russia.
Every century or so, the rulers of Europe like to unite to take on Russia. The past teaches them nothing because they are too narcissistic and too ideological to see that they are the ideological heir of Napoleon and Hitler (and many others before these two).
I don’t see any options left for the Kremlin but to “remind” these western ruling elites of how their previous attempts ended, and they need to do so not by words, or even by military exercises inside Russia, but by action, clear, unambiguous and observable actions. Nothing short of that kind of action will bring the western ruling classes back to reality.
PS: I have been listening/reading the Russian corporate/social media and there is A LOT of talk about “enough is enough”. Interestingly, talk show hosts are also expressing their frustration with what they see as a non-existing response from the Kremlin. With each Ukie provocation, the percentage of Russians who say “now that’s enough!” rises. Might this be the explanation for the Kremlin’s lack of action? Are they waiting until the percentage of Russian in favor of direct action reaches a certain level?
PPS: so far there STILL is no evidence whatsoever that the Ukies conducted a Bayraktar strike in the LDNR.
PPPS: Just to clarify, when I mean that Russia needs to act, I am not talking hours or days, but weeks and months. But no more than that.
PPPPS: The Pentagon is now asking all EU colonies to sell lethal weapon systems to the Ukraine.
It seems a player Is missing . Up to now.
I am too naive to comment in this forum (for which I am truly grateful), but I have a question related to Liz’s thoughts etc . . .
Does it seem certain to the Saker and those like him that any Russian action would be limited to protecting LDNR in its current borders (if that’s the word) or is any increase in territory for Russia (Mariupol etc?) conceivable?
Actually, I think that Russia is biding her time watching Ukraine’s ongoing societal collapse in general and its depopulation in particular. By the time sufficiently large numbers of people have left Ukraine, the entire ”country” becomes up for grabs. My hunch is that Russia, at the end of this decade, will be in an excellent position to reclaim what is rightfully hers. The Ukronazis and their grossly incompetent handlers in the West have destroyed utterly what was once the industrial and scientific heartland of the erstwhile USSR and turned it into a horrid wasteland of extreme Russophobic fascist reaction and wanton deindustrialization. It shouldn’t be too costly for Russia to rebuild and resettle ”Ukraine” with Russians. Keep in mind here that the prospect of Europe’s greedy hyena (Poland) getting a foothold in Ukraine has to be unconditionally prevented if we want things to evolve in a fairly peaceful manner.
Thank you Nussiminen! Grateful for these things to consider . . .
“Does it seem certain to the Saker and those like him that any Russian action would be limited to protecting LDNR in its current borders (if that’s the word) or is any increase in territory for Russia (Mariupol etc?) conceivable?”
From my POV Ukraine is just the cat’s paw. The destabilization of Ukraine and the attempted destabilization of Belarus has the goal of destroying an independent Russia. The Anglo/Zionist Emipre is the real acting power. For example, the recent sale of javelin missiles by the US isn’t that useful for combat with LDNR forces because they don’t possess tanks in great numbers. These missiles are, however, directed at Russian forces.
In short, this isn’t about territorial gains in the Ukraine. It is about NATO and U.S. forces (political and military) representing a existential threat to Russian independence.
If anyone thinks a hot war with Russia will be limited to Ukraine, they ought to have their head examined. The people of Western Europe should think very clearly about this. The conventional weapons of war are a lot more destructive than last time.
Many thanks Greifenberg for this helpful response.
Russia: Delay until Ukraine has no substantial income from Russian gas transit. Force EU to financially intervene in UA, or accept large number of economic UA migrants.
Look, the Covid pandemic is no hoax and it is slamming Russia harder than ever right now. Moreover, it shows no signs of not returning to America in yet another great wave when more contagious and more virulent mutant strains appear. The most plausible explanation for its origins are the scenario proposed by Ron Unz based upon the evidence elegantly revealed and explained by Nicholas Wade. It is most likely a bioweapon created through the collaboration of government-supported (NIH-sponsored) American and Chinese research labs that either inadvertently escaped or was deliberately released specifically to create this chaos and these recriminations. How is that continuing crisis, ginned up into domestic political battles across the globe, conducive for either side to be fighting a world war on the battlefield? It’s about the only way to make an unthinkable decision (to set in motion the final act of humanity in a nuclear conflagration) even more absurd.
As if putting on such a play in this theatre of the absurd is not crazy enough, strident and overwrought domestic politics in the United States have this country headed down the rails for head-on collisions in the economic/financial spheres, interruption of supply lines for virtually every necessity of life in a bloated and overextended plutocratic empire that nobody can afford to pay for any longer, overt racial conflicts with militant minorities conspicuously trying to overthrow the founding majority who made their restive existence possible and comfortable here (lazy ingrate syndrome), uncontrolled breaching of our borders by incendiary elements not wanted or affordable here and overtly disdainful of the very country they are attempting to colonise, fear and loathing of law enforcement from the national to the state, county and municipal levels because they act more like armed thugs than public servants as they try to fleece the citizenry under blatantly immoral, unfair, undemocratic and unegalitarian civil seizure policies and as prosecutors deliberately frame hapless innocents merely to embellish their conviction rates through plea bargaining, an obvious perversion of the justice system established by the nation’s constitution. What did I leave out? As if a 12-line sentence doesn’t do enough to make my point. This country is on the verge of collapse through its own abuse of power and gross misconduct by its entire leadership. Why should the Russians accommodate such maniacs by giving them any pretext for further outrageous behavior? The USA is about ready to self-destruct of its own accord. It manufactured and gifted itself the very rope with which it will hang itself. Russia and China need but hunker down and play a waiting game. I would hope that most of the world sees through the blatant propaganda spewed forth by Washington and realises that it is Amerika that seeks to start an immoral and unjust war of aggression against all comers. The only instance in which Russia or China should respond with extreme prejudice to bellicose American assaults is if the stark-raving mad Yanks play the nuclear first strike gambit. Then Putin will have no choice but to avenge all the rest of exterminated humanity.
Putin said in his last big speech, did he not, that Russia does not want to see the collapse of the United States, that such an event would be too traumatic for the entire world and that he would try to ameliorate any such event. He may be right, but maybe he is mistaken. Maybe America’s demise by its own hand is the outcome we should all hope for. Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, the Palestinians and a multitude of other American targets have not forced us to contemplate this scenario. America itself has done so.
Covid is not Chinese, i have had covid in summer 2019, i live in western europe, i have had covid this september and october this year too. I know i had covid in 2019 because the symptoms are unique and distinct from the flu and exactly the same symptoms i had this year. It feels like having a cold with an allergic reaction and neurological symptoms (fatigue, headache, feeling drunk). My symptoms were mild but persistent. My mom, a heart patient, 76 yo, too had covid, despite being unvaccinated she had much milder symptoms than i had.
Covid coincides with the West’s Great Reset agenda, an opportunity to reset society and the financial system.
From COP26 to COVID19: Two Sides of the Same Lie.
Great reset by war, as usual, under ”green pretext”
I’m not convinced there needs any direct military escalation between NATO and Russia. The US and many countries in the West are heading fast towards a massive vortex of energy (no more cheap oil), ecological (climate change), economic (Ponzi-schemes collapse) and societal (‘Left’ vs ‘Right’) crises. Some sort of a collapse is pretty much guaranteed eventually for the US as it will get hit hardest. On the other hand, while there certainly will be challenges for Russia, it is set up in a much more favorable position for all of them.
Therefore, Russia can start applying more economical pressure (gas/oil/coal) and keep doing the minimum to prevent bloodshed in Donbass and just wait it out – as simple as that. By escalating it’s only likely to unite currently very divided Western (yet thoroughly branwashed) public and decelerate the inevitable collapse.
Back to the no-fly zone proposal – if the Ukies indeed start causing serious grief to Donbass from the air, then it makes perfect sense, but if that doesn’t materialize I see no justification for it.
The west needs to bailout banks dressed up as saving the climate to convince their constituents of the need for reform and austerities.
Energy prices are high because of speculation, not because of high demand. Banks adopted a policy of denying credit to co2 polluting energy producers, many energy producers will go bankrupt because of it.
I think one option to Russia would be to make a move in US influence area. Like starting a more proactive collaboration with Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua. Palestine/Gaza would be nice too. Just providing them with some Wagner stuff… in a covert way enough for not implicate government publically but clear enough to be noticed. Pantsirs to Gaza, some submarine of ICBM base in Venezuela, and so on…
“I think one option to Russia would be to make a move in US influence area. Like starting a more proactive collaboration with Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua. Palestine/Gaza would be nice too. Just providing them with some Wagner stuff… in a covert way enough for not implicate government publically but clear enough to be noticed. Pantsirs to Gaza, some submarine of ICBM base in Venezuela, and so on…”
Excellent idea. This is exactly what Russia, China, Iran, or other nations on America’s hit-list must do:
Give Americans a taste of their own medicine.
America (and its crime partners) act with impunity because it doesn’t have to face consequences for its malign behavior around the world.
The nations on America’s hit-list must support, arm, and back nations like Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia or even inside of the USA itself (like the Hawaiian nation, Lakota Republic, Puerto Rico, or Aztlan).
How about some Russia S-400 missile defense systems in Cuba and Venezuela to defend against the American Threat?
Americans will throw a massive pants-wetting hissy at the very idea.
Too bad for the USA. ;-(
Turnabout is Fair Play.
Americans will learn that Karma is a hella bitch.
What are the chances that Russia would be able to arrange a counter-coup? and thus install a Ukrainian government bend on the peaceful partitioning of Ukraine by vote… Like Denmark did in Schleswig in 1920.
If possible it would keep the veneer of legality needed to minimize future Ukrainian resentment – keep the bloodletting to a minimum and deny the west a clear casus belli…
For that you need to print lots of money out of thin air which Russia cannot do as good as the west. The EU and US invested billions of dollars and euros preparing a colour revolution movement in Ukraine.
Charles de Gaulle fled France when it fell to the Nazis, organised the french resistance against the Vichy regime, and become the leader of free France in exile…
Unfortunately I don’t see a Ukrainian CdG figure anywhere right now who could lead such a counter-revolution..maybe others have some suggestions? A military commander from Donbass?
If the RF special forces are as good as so many times told, then Moscow should finally start making use of them.
A sophisticated tool is of no value if the owner can‘t make or is not willing to make use of it.
The Bayraktar drones must be taken out – all of them. As these are tools able to inflict heavy pressure and pain and even damage upon the LDNR and the RF. However that may be achieved – not our business. But it must be done.
And any communication center that without doubt will exist somewhere not to far away must be blown up as well.
In a single, deadly strike. Same time.
That would be warning enough. As a 1st step.
Then Moscow may calmly wait for what will happen next.
My expectation: it would be most probably a time win for – let‘s say – three or four month. Stalemate again.
Not bad at all.
Time enough for Moscow to prepare the next step.
While the Western Society decays more and more rapidly.
Worth the approach I guess.
Just my 2 cents
Turkish army is using same drones and armed against SDF in Syria.. potential trouble there …seems to be some raprochement” with SDF and Syrian Arab Army ….so if the latter does support SDF or alongside… then they could be the target of the drones. What will Russia say then …same situation as Syria continually being attacked by Israel yet there are still relationships between Russia and Israel?
Note Iran has started to run drones and train Syrians for them too ……
This looks like Danzig scenario where Hitler was dragged into a war he never wanted. I sincerely hope M. Putin will escape that trap. Good bless Russia.
Hitler wanted the war with the east, but he did not like the “timing” imposed upon him by the Brits and French, also he felt betrayed by his own civilization (the west: french and brits).
He did want war in the East. He wouldn’t have raised the Danzig question with such unnecessary urgency.
As if on cue this story from WaPo appeared on ZeroHedge on Sunday: Large-Scale Russian Troop Movements Along Ukraine Border Spark Alarm In US & Europe
This article goes in line with a comment I posted earlier, about the Russian strategy to deal with Banderastan’s spasmodic assaults on Donbass.
“…Russia’s counteraction, as the article discerns, has be to be surgical. Translation: hit the Corporate West where it hurts the most, their pockets…The idea is to make the Western masters pay a higher price for every new provocation, at the same time that Russia uses every new crisis as a testing opportunity for new military hardware/software, weakens Ukraine economically, exacerbates the pressure on puppet-clown Zelensky, and teaches the Western masters a lesson on good manners…”
Seems to me it would be relatively straight forward for the Russian military to identity the locations of these drones and send in a team to destroy them covertly. Russian special forces certainly have that capability. That wouldn’t solve the overall problem as stated, but again, it would buy some time.
I said years ago that Putin should have gone in, overthrown the Kiev regime, destroyed the neo-Nazi battaltions, disarmed the Ukie army, put a puppet regime in Kiev – and then gone home. Ukraine would have been quiet for some time after that, and the US and EU would have been unable to do anything but bitch and moan.
This probably would have been a sanctions problem for Russia six or seven years ago (getting cut off SWIFT and the like), but that now since Russia has taken steps to disconnect is economy from the West in favor of the East, that sanctions won’t be that much of a problem now. Another reason to go ahead and take out Ukraine.
Unfortunately, Peter Lee and you are on the same page, which is not a good thing:
“I’m more and more of the feeling that a clash is going to happen over Taiwan. DPP/Japan/Pentagon trying to roll Biden to be more aggressive; PRC detects Biden weakness and Pentagon overreach; maybe now’s the time to lance the boil”
SWAG: If necessary, Russia & China & Iran will stage some political theater to diffuse these tensions.
Please: In acronyms (USA+UK+3B+P+EU+U) what is 3B, P and U?
Three Baltic states, Poland and Ukraine.
I wonder if Russia really does want to annex the LDNR. I don’t know how Ukrainian public opinion breaks down, but lets suppose that the hard-core anti-Russian Nazi opinion isn’t too large or even widely hated. In this case, Russia might hope in the long run to win over most Ukrainians to a pro-Russian view. Annexing the LDNR would work against this outcome, because it would reduce the ethnically Russian part of the population, which is presumably pro-Russian. The Kremlin may prefer to have a whole, well-functioning Ukraine with a significant Russian population. There is much anti-Russian noise out of Ukraine, simply because the Russophobes, with CIA support, have seized power and can prevent others from speaking. However, how many people do they speak for? Furthermore, there are a large number of Ukrainians who have fled the country, including many in Russia, whose views are probably also absent.
Everybody talks about Ukraine’s ongoing societal collapse. It is it so? Os there any social unrest in Ukraine?
The biggest problem in this is, that none of what is happening in Ukraine is reported in any way in the west.
Not one word is coming through. The only thing we can hear in the news is that for some reason Russia is amassing war material on the border to Ukraine, and nothing else.
The diplomatic games of Putin are all good and well, but sometimes you have to be blunt, so the message comes through to the ordinary working men in the west.
Go out and say that any attacks on to the Donbass, or Ukraine joining the alliance, will be considered as an attack by NATO on Russian interests and will be respondent to by force.
This is the only way to stop this from escalating further.
The USA walks in front offany march,parading in front of china straits with their nato pals as long as they agree with the us. Whom have build up an enormes fleet off ships that all need oil and in the past they have robbed the Iranian oil at sea and sold that on the open market,biden and his master’s won’t last long so the best way is to agitate Russia by supplying the eukraine with every thing to start a war Russia waits for their first step over the border
A severe escalation will most likely be avoided again. Not clear for how much longer. “Avoided” in this case can be simply until December or January.
There are major issues in the US. The situation is very grim internally and Biden goes around declaring support to everyone at the same time. This is an act of despair and a very dangerous one. The US is on the edge of full collapse and things are not good at all. This makes the risk of war much higher but now even war is not enough to salvage the empire. It’s scary when empires crash at the peak of their arrogance. It’s a long way down falling from “grace” – from the highest (imagined) to the lowest (real) in one abrupt and shocking motion.
Could the West be escalating now because it needs a war to survive, much as it did 100 years ago?
Beware. The West is trying to decide between attacking Russia or attacking China first. The idea is to try to prevent an alliance. Ultimately, of course, the goal is to subordinate both to the New World Order, but the crooks who rule would prefer to do it one at a time.
Operation “Autumn Storm” & the Donbass “offensive.”
It is not coincidence Turkey just launched an offensive in northeastern Syria, “Operation Autumn Storm,” only a few days after Ukronazis kicked off yet another military operation against Donbass. Erdogan is pressing his pipe-dreams of a neo-Ottoman empire, taking full advantage of the Ukronazis needs for weapons, all under the pretext of opposing Russia’s “occupation” of Crimea, and in defense of the Crimean Tatars, a Turkic ethnic group.
He is using his “friendship” with, and support of Banderastan, to bargain his ambitions for a slice of northeastern Syria with Russia. Erdogan’s ambitions are forced to walk a tight rope, ever since Putin showed him his economic vulnerabilities by cutting off trade with Turkey after they shot down a Russian fighter jet over Syria (11/2015), -and his political weakness by extricating him from a CIA-orchestrated coup d’état (07/2016). After the Kremlin denounced the use of Turkish-made drones as destabilizing, it was funny to see Turkey’s foreign minister Çavuşoğlu squirming to clarify the Bayraktar TB2 can be made in Turkey, “but are used by Ukraine,” calling on Ukraine “to stop mentioning (Turkey’s) name.”
Russia is limiting the scope of Turkey’s operations in Syria, by planting Russian flags in the Syrian towns and villages the Turkish army needs to target, or use as a transit area. In the border with Ukraine, the Russian army is piling up heavy weaponry, as a warning to the Ukronazis in case their Western masters decide to upgrade them from cannon fodder to nice looking corpses.
The troika Putin/Lavrov/Shoygu are playing a waiting game with Erdogan, allowing him to erode his political capital on his pipe-dreams, dangling the carrot of new weapons and military technology, while keeping him away from his European dreams and in trouble with his NATO “allies.” So far, Ukronazis have refrained from using the Bayraktar TB2, with the exception of a “video” from doubtful sources. Other directing fire drones have been brought down by the DPR/LPR using Triton M1 EW systems.
We will see by November’s end what has come out from these two misadventures. In the meantime, Russia has an opportunity to train their capabilities for multiple front engagements. Besides materiel and troop deployments to the border with Ukraine, they also moved 20 fighters/fighter-bombers to the Qamishli base in Syria, just in case Erdogan’s pipe-dreams go out of bounds.
However, Russia is not the only one facing multiple challenges, the US is also concerned about the Asian front facing China. Risking a conflict with Russia for Ukraine is not in their books. Not for now. These are just dress rehearsals.
And while we wait for whatever November brings, enjoy the fall and pass the popcorn.
The MH17 court case is going on and the publicly available evidence points to Kiev. To begin with three days before the aircraft was shot down the “rebels” shot down an Ukrainian An-26 which Kiev claimed was flying at an altitude of 6 km – meaning a Buk missile would have been used as no other suitable weapon was near – but according to the photographs that very soon appeared such a weapon was clearly NOT used. Kiev lied.
I suppose Russia will react to that case and is waiting with reacting on other matters.
If it comes to hostilities between the puppets in Kiev and the Russkies, the Russkies should remind the Ukranian army (with the exception of the Nazis from a Western province in Ukraine) that they are welcome to rejoin the unified army and liberate fraternal Ukraine from the Anglo yoke. They would rejoin in vast numbers, the army would just dissolve into the united Russian army.
Estimado The Saker, lo que debe hacer lRusia con sus socios, es anticiparse y destruir el estado asesino que se hace llamar israel y enviar al fondo de los mares al serpentario britanico….asi de simple!!! con esto y si puede, destruirles la HAARP y se termino TODO!!!!!
google translate … mod
Dear The Saker, what Russia must do with its partners is to anticipate and destroy the murderous state that calls itself Israel and send the British serpentarium to the bottom of the seas… .simple !!! with this and if you can, destroy the HAARP and it’s over EVERYTHING !!!!!
Could somebody please tell me what the P stands for in: The USA+UK+3B+P ??
Thanks in advance.
Dated October. You saw it coming. Its now happening. And yes, you deserve a good rest like you did. Here in Kenya and we are feeling the revurbs on sanctions imposed on Russia.