Russian Su-27 warns off NATO F-16 trying to approach defense minister’s plane over Baltic
Exclusive Zvezda TV channel footage
Jun 21, 2017
The rapprochement of the F-16 fighter with Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu’s airplane was shown by Russian TV channels
On the shots you can see how the NATO aircraft came up with the Russian at a distance of several tens of meters, after which a Su-27 fighter appeared between them.
The pilot of the Russian fighter shook his wings, demonstrating the pilot of the F-16 rocket. After that, the NATO aircraft left.
NATO aircraft attempted to escort the plane of the Russian Defense Minister over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea, when he was traveling to Kaliningrad. The board, in which the head of the Defense Ministry was located, followed with an escort consisting of Su-27 naval aircraft fighters.
Su-27 Drives NATO F-16 Away From Russian Defense Minister’s Plane in Baltic Sky Su-27 fighter, one of the aircraft escorting Shoigu’s plane, then displayed its weapons, prompting the F-16 to retreat.
- On Monday, Russia scrambled its Su-27 fighter to intercept a target over neutral Baltic Sea waters, which turned out to be a US Boeing RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft.
“On June 19, Russia’s airspace control facilities over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea detected an air target flying toward the state border of the Russian Federation. To intercept the target, a Su-27 fighter was scrambled… which, after approaching it, identified it as an RC-135 US reconnaissance aircraft,” the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement on Tuesday.
- MOSCOW, June 20. /TASS/. Russian Su-27 fighter jets consecutively intercepted two US RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft, with one of them making a provocative turn towards the Russian plane, the Russian defense ministry said on Tuesday.
- On Saturday, June 9 Russian Su-27 intercepted US’ KC-135 military aerial refueling aircraft over the Baltic Sea
#Pentagon s/man Captain Jeff Davis told reporters: "We were flying in international airspace and did nothing to provoke this behaviour." 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/kWeZDTg7FN
— Crystal🇷🇺 (@CRSTAL_52) June 21, 2017
Russia’s Defense Minister: Russia’s western borders are heating up as NATO activity surges
Head of the Russian Military Department General of the Army Sergei Shoigu held the Board Session of the Ministry of Defence
In Russian – On Wednesday June 21 defense Ministry meeting in Kaliningrad
Today, the Board session of the Ministry of Defence was held in Kaliningrad under the leadership of the Russian Defence Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu.
The Russian Defence Minister started with an analysis of the current situation at the Western borders of Russia, which “has a tendency to deteriorate”.
“This is due to increasing military activity of NATO in the Eastern Europe,” stressed the Minister of Defence.
NATO is increasing its presence in the Baltic States. Improving the infrastructure of their ports, airfields and other military facilities.
In the Baltic States and Poland, the formation of four battalion tactical groups is being completed, the total number will be around 5,000 servicemen with weapons and military hardware.
The deployment of the European segment of the U.S. global missile defence is continuing. In 2018, in addition to missile defence base in Romania, it is planned to put into service a similar facility in Poland.
The intensity of operational and combat training of the Alliance is increasing.
Large-scale exercises of the Alliance, such as “Baltops-2017” and “Sabre Strike – 2017”, are being held at the Russian borders. More than 10,000 servicemen, more than 70 ships and auxiliary vessels, about 70 aircraft, including American bombers B-52 are involved in this exercises.
“It demonstrates the reluctance of the Western partners to abandon the anti-Russian course. This is evidenced by the summit of NATO on May, where international terrorism and Russia were placed in the position of the threats”, – said the Minister of Defence.
He also noted that “some countries are seeking to use military force as a tool to achieve geopolitical goals, apart from political, informational and economic pressure.”
“These unjustified actions of our Western colleagues lead to the destruction of the security system in the world. It increases mutual distrust and force us to use responses, primarily in the Western strategic direction,” said Sergei Shoigu. He also added that the Russian response to such unfriendly acts is the improvement of combat strength of the Russian troops and system of their location.
About 20 formations and military units will be formed in the Western military district until the end of the year.
All organizational arrangements are synchronized with the supply of modern weapons. Within last six months’ troops and forces of the district received more than 300 pieces of weapons and military hardware.
More than 30 battalion and company tactical groups are ready for immediate combat use, which are staffed and equipped with the necessary financial and human resources.
With the beginning of the year in the Western military district conducted more than 100 unannounced inspections, which confirmed the readiness of troops for combat use.
After a long break the presence of warships of the Baltic Fleet in operationally important areas of the Atlantic Ocean is resumed.
Preparation for the planned strategic exercises “West-2017” has begun. It will be attended by Belarusian and Russian servicemen.
“Our partners will receive more detailed information about this exercise as through diplomatic channels and through mass media within the established international contract terms. The events will be open to international observers and journalists,” – said Sergei Shoigu, stressing that “much less troops and hardware will be used in the exercise “West-2017″ than in similar maneuvers of NATO countries in Europe.”
The Minister of Defence proposed to review the providence of the Russian military security in the Western strategic direction and the measures taken for its improvement.
The senior personnel of the Armed Forces, acting Governor of the Kaliningrad region Anton Alikhanov, representatives of bodies of state power and the military-industrial complex participated in the Board session of the Ministry of Defence
The US Senate amends the new sanctions on Russia bill to allow continued imports of Russian rocket engines
Amendment to Senate bill allows continued imports of Russian rocket engines
by Jeff Foust — June 15, 2017
“Without passage of Amendment #250, we lose a tremendous portion of our access to space,” said Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) during debate on the Senate floor. Gardner was referring to an amendment he introduced that established an exemption to the sanctions for Russian engines and other hardware used for civil or commercial launches.
“Without this bipartisan amendment, multiple missions on the books today, multiple missions that are already planned today, will be delayed or even cancelled, and would be subjecting the U.S. taxpayers to significant cost increases,” he said. He cited a number of examples, from launches of weather satellites to commercial cargo and crew missions to the International Space Station.
Among the amendment’s cosponsors was Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) “It corrects what was not intended, but unless corrected, would be disastrous, not only for NASA, but for all of our burgeoning commercial space industry,” he said.
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said he supported ongoing efforts to end reliance on Russian engines, but argued against the hard cutoff that the bill would effectively create. “I think it’s important, over a very short time, that we get off of purchasing Russian rockets,” he said. “But we need that transition period.”
Gardner said NASA had discussed the bill’s consequences with his office and supported his amendment. “NASA contacted my office yesterday and said of Amendment #250, ‘We believe this provides us the flexibility to maintain our commitments to our national space program,’” he said.
Gardner and other senators argued that they were correcting an unintended consequence of the bill, with Nelson calling the amendment “technical” in nature. However, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a strong critic in recent years regarding reliance on Russian engines, spoke out against the amendment.
“Have no doubt about what this amendment is, my dear colleagues and friends: it is a giveaway to the Russian military industrial complex,” he said, claiming it was backed by a “collection of lawmakers, executives and lobbyists” who support extending purchases of Russian engines.
McCain argued that NASA should follow in the footsteps of the U.S. Air Force, which is funding development of new rocket engines to end national security dependence on the RD-180. “NASA needs to the same,” he said, a sentence he repeated twice for emphasis.
Security…or Surveillance? The Edward Snowden’s Interview to Ron Paul
Published on Jun 20, 2017
In this wide-ranging exclusive interview, former intelligence analyst turned whistleblower Edward Snowden tells all. What to say to those who argue that they’ve got nothing to hide so nothing to fear from the intrusive ears of the state? Snowden is engagingly philosophical yet frank about his current position and where we are headed as a society. Check out the Freedom of the Press Foundation, where he is Board President: https://freedom.press/
Privacy, Control & the Darknet – Alex Winter with Abby Martin
Analysis: Iran’s missile strikes on Daesh Takfiri terrorists
Analysis: Iran’s missile strikes on Daesh Takfiri terrorists (I)
Analysis: Iran’s missile strikes on Daesh Takfiri terrorists (II)
Analysis: Iran’s missile strikes on Daesh Takfiri terrorists (III)
Analysis: Iran’s missile strikes on Daesh Takfiri terrorists (IV)
Israel IDF Commando Brigade exercise in Cyprus, June 2017
Questions raised in USS Fitzgerald collision that left 7 dead
Russian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Ryabkov:
Russia cancels planned bilateral consultations on the issues accumulated in Russian-American relations
[Translation is mine and not official, Scott]
On June 20, the Washington announced a new significant expansion of its sanctions against Russian individuals and legal entities, as a “political gift” from the U.S. to Poroshenko. The sanctions are being imposed under an old pretext of events in Ukraine. The absurdity of this reasoning is obvious, especially given the fact that Americans are now actually being blamed for the Ukrainian crisis, among others, the Moscow bike center and a well-known company involved in catering. The absurdity of these new actions are comparable with the last year sanctions, when the U.S. included to its sanctions list an open-air swimming pool called Chaika (“Seagull”) apparently, it was added to the sanctions list due to its location near the Crimean Bridge over the Moscow river.
Those in Washington cannot understand that such escapades only provoke the “party of war” in Kiev, seeking to disrupt the peaceful settlement of the conflict in Donbass. Concerns also exist in regard to the measures taken in the United States to keep following the path predetermined by Obama administration towards a collapse of relations between our countries. We are sorry that the new American leadership being controlled by the same inveterate Russophobes from the US Congress, who just don’t know what else to invent to “annoy” us, and most importantly – to “nullify” any prospects for better alignment in Russian-American relations.
This new American attack won’t be left without a proper reaction, including in the form of similar practical measures.
As you know, in the next few days we planned to continue our bilateral consultations on the accumulated in Russian-American relations “frustrations”, to find ways out of extremely difficult situation in which the American side has driven its partnership and cooperation with Russia. After yesterday’s decision on the new sanctions, the situation does not provide a proper atmosphere for the next rounds of this dialogue, especially considering Washington refusal to propose anything tangible in this area. In instance, the U.S. government refuses to return expropriated in December last year Russian diplomatic properties.
In the U.S., of course, they may continue to entertain illusions that Russia can be “pressured”. Numerous previous “waves” of the U.S. sanctions did not bring the result expected by their initiators. Equally futile will be any new attempts to “get Russia to submit”.
I hope that the realization of this simple fact will encourage Washington to suspend their spiraling down their own sanctional slope and to return to our bilateral dialogue and interaction to normal.
Moscow open-air swimming pool called Chaika (“Seagull”)
21 June 2017
Mr. Vladimir Ivanovich Voronkov of the Russian Federation has been appointed as Under Secretary General of the United Nations to head the newly created Counter-Terrorism Office
United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres has appointed Vladimir Ivanovich Voronkov of the Russian Federation as Under-Secretary-General of the newly created United Nations Counter-Terrorism Office as established by the General Assembly resolution 71/291 on 15 June 2017.
A crowd of migrant workers most likely from Uzbekistan tried to free an arrested man who failed an ID check in Moscow on June 16, 2017
A crowd started pushing on arresting police officers, while chanting ” Allahu Akbar,” but everyone stepped back after the Police officers reached for their guns and batons .
A Police officer explained that a suspect was arrested after he handed his ID to a third party being stopped on the street for a routine ID check. He was detained pending his identification. Someone from the crowd kept saying that a suspect was beaten, and the Police officer said that it wasn’t true.
Judging by the comments on this obscure website, this escalation took place after people started leaving Ramadan services from a local mosque in the center of Moscow near metro station Prospect Mira. The Police officers didn’t use firearms, although the law allows them to shoot the attackers. Preposterously, some saw this coolness and levelheadedness of the Moscow Police as a sign of weakness. Still, some commentators call on their “Muslim brothers” to follow the laws of Russia while visiting and working there, since Russian authorities do everything reasonable to accommodate their religious needs.
F-16 crashes with ammunition on board while taking off from Houston airbase
The pilot, who is from a detachment of the 138th Fighter Wing, crashed on takeoff.
An Air Force pilot ejected from his F-16 fighter jet after it caught fire during takeoff Wednesday morning, according to the Houston Airport System.
Ellington officials said that the pilot was on an NORAD mission at the time of the crash.
Because the aircraft was carrying military explosives at the time of the crash, Ellington Field was evacuated, and Harris County’s Office of Emergency Management elevated to a Level III status, KHOU reported.
Houston Police also blocked sections of Beltway 8 from Crenshaw to Galveston, because of the explosives the aircraft was carrying.
NORAD officials have not indicated what type of military ordnance was on the F-16, KPRC reported.
Personnel have been allowed to return while the crash is under investigation.
Ellington Field is a base for .te United States Air Force‘s 147th Reconnaissance Wing is an Air National Guard (ANG) unit operationally-gained by the Air Combat Command (ACC).
The 147 RW provides a 24/7 capability with MQ-1B Predator Unmanned Aerial Systems. In its conduct of combat support sorties, the 147 RW provides theater and national-level leadership with critical real-time Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) and Air-to-Ground Munitions and strike capability. A collocated Air Support Operations Squadron (ASOS) provides terminal control for weapons employment in a Close Air Support (CAS) scenario, integrating combat air and ground operations. [according to Wikipedia]
A one-mile evacuation zone has been issued around Ellington Field Joint Reserve Base in southeast Houston after an F-16 caught fire in the midst of takeoff Wednesday. The pilot ejected himself to escape the fire and was taken to a hospital.
The Houston Office of Emergency Management said that the jet had missiles on board, which is the reason for the evacuation zone.
Avoid the area around Ellington Field as @cohoustonfire responds to a military plane on fire. #hounews
— Houston OEM (@HoustonOEM) June 21, 2017
Due to #EllingtonCrash in SE Houston, @houstonpolice is closing Beltway 8 from Crenshaw to Galveston Road. #houtraffic @TxDOTHoustonPIO
— Houston OEM (@HoustonOEM) June 21, 2017
Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) manufactures the F-16.
The pilot was conducting a training flight as part of a detachment of the 138th Fighter Wing, stationed at Ellington Field Joint Reserve Base in Houston, according to NORAD.
The evacuation order covers a 4,000 square foot radius from the crash site, and will be in effect for six hours, the fire department said.
It’s not known the kind of ordnance this jet carried.
Can someone explain why the Russians keep selling them the RD-180 engines? To me it is idiotic… For the few dollars they get? the US is using the engine against the Russian interests…
By selling them RD-180, the Russians are simply choking the US attempts to develop their own technology. If the Russians cancelled the supply, the US would have to invest heavily, resurrect the industry and start building their own engines. Surely, the Americans can build stuff, it would be more expensive of course but it will eventually fly and the engines will become competitors to Russian engines. The Europeans would be forced to stop buying Russian engines and switch to American stuff, even if the US technology will be less effective and more expensive. Therefore, the Russians in the end will lose not only American market but the European market as well. Meanwhile the Russians invest the money paid by the US and Europe into developing their rocket technology. It is like giving fish instead of a fishing rod to the natives. Give them a fishing rod and they will survive on their own, give them fish instead, and they will be your slaves working for food.
Besides, this is another example of how the Russians continue to improve their already superior rocket technology. It’s like using the amiric*nts to pay money to further distance Russian technology, while ensuring that the anglozionist can’t compete!
Imposing sanctions, from the US side, means reciprocal answer from RF – no RD180’s means no sats in space, no titanium means no more boings in the sky! Further, these new sanction drive the EU members away from the Hegemon – and they can only turn one way – straight into the arms of Russia, SCO, OBOR, BRICS, etc. All that is a win-win for the Euroasian world, and a huge loss for the anglozionist!
Let McCain (дурак) scream all he wants – Washington lose – AGAIN!
Judo metaphysics in objective form…art in political combat on the vast stage of world and human history – we are seeing, if we can dispense with cant and canon and faith and ideology for an instant, a contest between eastern wisdom and modern ephemeral knowledge…and the master stands on a moral plinth…in such an arena God must be present,,,so I will say that there are more than 1 in 10 people in that country…sound familiar? It is old bible and solid…Sodom and all that.
1 in 10, but truth is it’s 9 out of ten…and RuF knows this and so does the big fella…
So the evident implication?
Maybe it will go, we may be, history funny story…
Well, that is certainly true, but it still would be more beneficial to the Russians to stop it. There is a certain line at where the national security means more than a few millions of dollars…
How is it going to benefit the Russian National security if the Americans will start developing their own space technology instead of relying on Russian built engines? The US is fully dependant rocket engine wise on Russia now, that surely benefits the Russian National secutity. They can cut supply at any given time, let alone if a war starts, with nothing to replace it for the States.
“when it is time to hang the capitalists”, Lenin (I believe) said…”they will sell us the rope.”
Well, that’s what my mother told me when I was 10. I’m nearly 70 now…
Trade with 4th Reich exists and RuF takes advantage of this to undermine the critical abilities of the reich to launch to orbit… In a sense the capitalists (fascist reich) is “selling RuF” the “rope”. RuF is exploiting a defect or flaw in the economic political arena, a weakness, fatal, for the cheap method – usually an error, speaking generally. Buying RD180/RD181 etc cheap means an opening “fissure”. No accident, is Policy and part of coordinated method. Simply one small detail among many… RuF is not playing game…they’re down for the war and are obviously intent on Strategy of creating Peace, not Victory… ((but, alas, Victory may come anyway, and ruin everything)). But if Victory come we shall all have to live through it, if anybody does.
Latest Canthama updates.
“… all the US can do is to provoke, that has been the US recent behaviour, provoke so the Syrian Government takes the bate, it won’t happen, the Syrian Government has done the same for years with Israel, the retaliation will always be asymmetric, it will happen but else where.
As long as the Syrian Government and its allies keep this behaviour, it will by time for the final check mate in Syria, which is ISIS no more, then comes the rest, the closer they get to that point the better it will, including buying time for a new formidable air defense system.
“… there is no Russian base, Russians are completely embedded with the SAA and allies all over Syria, no need for a Russian base. In fact there is a sort of Russia base in Palmyra, but I would say it is not necessarily a military base, it is a sort of de mining group, short range radar, back office for forward SF calling air strikes in the Syrian Desert type of structure.
The US regime presence in al Tanf is pathetic, it is a brainless political show of force and they know it shows nothing but a clean static target, any cruise missile fired toward it would destroy the whole show.
“… The US, Israel and KSA previous coalition of the killing has collapsed, they are desperate, and desperate regimes do stupid things. Attacking the Syrian Government results in one thing only, more support from Syria’s allies. This race has being played for 6 years, but now it is getting its pick, the big difference is that the remaining active coalition of the killing are poorer and at the brink of a collapse.
Israel got the message from Iran: Hizballah has those missiles.
KSA is now going through a coup inside a coup, soon the king and his abominable son will be dead, assassinated by his own family.
And the US we all know, no money, no global hegemony, it will be hit by a financial collapse and be no more.
Time plays for the Syrians and allies, just they do not have to fall into provocations and keep on driving the long term plan.
“… the Tiger Forces are a very battle experienced group, the closest to a SF except that they are in a regular army formation. The Tiger Forces have clear objectives and they do it by parts, for instance:
1) Liberate Kuweires airbase
2) Recapture most of Northern Hama
3) Liberate Dayr Hafer and for that all the ISIS held ground in Aleppo to free water to the city.
4) Liberate Maskaneh and its plains.
5) Reach Resafa and control the ways to the Euphrates, Central Homs and Der ez Zor
6) the new objective no one knows, but it is clear from many Tiger Forces commanders that they will go to Der ez Zor city, but until it reaches that area there may be specific short term objectives, and it may very well be :
– Reach the Euphrates and control the oil & gas on the way,
– reach Mount Bishri on the way to Der ez Zor, Cut ISIS off in northern Hama etc.
Anyhow, the Tiger is going to meet his friend the “Mad Druze” from which way, we will know soon.
By the way, the northeast Hama offensive is about to start, the amount of troop there has reached its peak, soon we will see a major breaking bones campaign there and ISIS will be dealing with smaller pockets and will be utterly defeated in this vital area for Syria.”
Interesting that you mentioned the new KSA crown prince. This will be dangerous, because the man is a risky hothead. He’s leading the brutal war against Yemen, where the Saudi’s can’t win, but have switched to almost genocidal killing of civilians. They have even threatened to bomb the only port where help goods like food and medicines can arrive.
The tensions with Iran are already gearing up, they are heading for a confrontation that could be disastrous for the KSA. Just wait until hundreds of rockets start raining down on them. And Iran, like North Korea, stores them deep underground.
Looks to me like DJT has given them enough scimitar for them to behead themselves.
The chasing off by the Su-27 of the F-16 doesn’t really worry me. These kinds of intercepts between plane is routine, is done on an almost daily basis for decades. But it is always between military planes only. It’s like signaling, virtually the first says ‘f**k you’ and the other says ‘well, f**k you too’.
So, what is this F-16 doing near the plane of a Russian minister? That is what worries me.
And I was remebered again at the tragic crash of a Malaysian civvilian airliner (MH17) over the Ukraine some years ago, killing hundreds of people. Even nowadays the commission researching this accident remains silent an avoiding questions, and still many believe the BS story that it was downed by ‘the Russians’ using a BUK surface-to-air rocket.
Just look at the wreckage yourself of the cockpit: https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=992&q=mh17+cockpit&oq=mh17+cockpit&
Those are large caliber bullit holes, both going inside and going out. You can clearly see that the cockpit was shot from both sides. The larger hole behind the cockpit may have come from an air-to-air missile. Heighth of flying was 10 km. The motors lay alongside the hull wreckage, so the plane must have come down largely as one piece with the wings still attached. That rules out a BUK rocket, that would have ripped the plane to pieces.
Well, what do I need for that?
The commision has repeatedly stated that the Russian radar images were not there. Well, here they are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bNPInuSqfs . It is the press conference by the Russian military shortly after the accident, showing radar images, and asking what those 2 Su-25 fighter jets were doing there. It was completely ignored in the western press.
Well, which people are allowed to fly with armed jets over the Ukraine?
The question, as always is: why?
A theory often repeated on the internet, is that at the time of the downing, about 200 km north another plane was flying, looking rather similar. It was the Russian presidential plane, with Vladimir Putin on board.
I have always much doubted this theory (it would mean war), but that doubt is disappearing fast.
Maybe I should add something.
A BUK rocket has a warhead of 70 kg. It explodes just a few meters from its target, and a plane is completely ripped to pieces from the shockwave: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system
Consequently, the motors should be the first parts hitting the ground, considering their much larger mass and lower flow resistance, and the rest of the debris would have landed much farther away. None of this happened to the MH17.
Secondly, the 200 km distance of Putin’s plane may seem far on the ground, but in the air with a military jet this is nothing, they cover that in minutes (Germans call this a ‘Katzensprunge’, cat jump).
They have just made a slight mistake.
Statement from the State Department on U.S.-Russia relations
We regret that Russia has decided to turn away from an opportunity to discuss bilateral obstacles that hinder U.S.-Russia relations.
During the Secretary’s April visit to Moscow, he and Foreign Minister Lavrov agreed to establish a senior-level working group to discuss bilateral issues of concern. Undersecretary Shannon had planned to travel to St. Petersburg this week to continue discussions which began in May when he met Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov in New York.
The maintenance package of sanctions issued yesterday by the Treasury Department, which only reinforced existing sanctions, was designed to counter attempts to circumvent our sanctions and to maintain alignment of U.S. measures with those of our international partners. We have regularly updated these sanctions twice a year since they were first imposed.
Let’s remember that these sanctions didn’t just come out of nowhere. Our targeted sanctions were imposed in response to Russia’s ongoing violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of its neighbor, Ukraine. If the Russians seek an end to these sanctions, they know very well the U.S. position: Our sanctions on Russia related Russia’s ongoing aggression against Ukraine will remain in place until Russia fully honors its obligations under the Minsk Agreements. Our sanctions related to Crimea will not be lifted until Russia ends its occupation of the peninsula.
We would refer you to the Russian government to explain their decision to cancel this meeting. From our perspective, and as Secretary Tillerson has made clear, there are many issues to be discussed. We remain open to future discussions.
The USA is just still frustrated that their plan to grab the port of Sevastopol didn’t work. Because imho that was the main reason for this blatant coup. The port of Sevastopol is very important for Russia.
Putin completely outsmarted everybody, and no shot was fired.
The peolple of Crimea have voted in a referendum for realigning with the Russian Federation. Sometimes people argue that this vote was rigged, but actually I’ve seen polls from years ago, that had roughly the same results (asking whether they felt ‘Russian’ or ‘Ukrainan’). The polls were held by Gallup, and that is an American company, right?
Compare that to the rational divorce of former Czechoslowakia, nobody cared.
Or better, with the outright shameful ripping off of Kosovo from Serbia. No referenda were held, the USA just did it. Had something to do with interesting minerals, but I suspect also that certain forces are still underway to create a ‘Greater Albania’ again. Remember that most Albanians are muslim. The KSA is very willing to ‘steer’ them.
US State Department – twelve year old Talmud students smoking cigarettes, pretending to be adults.
“US State Department – twelve year old Talmud students smoking cigarettes, pretending to be adults.”
Had me laughing so hard I started coughing – and I don’t smoke.
Part of the sophisticated defence systems onboard Russian Presidential plane is a rather advanced Electronic Warfare system, capable of distorting or produce false radar-images to any enemy rader. Now, I (of course) don’t know the inner details or workings of the security around H.E. Putin, but considering that Ukraine – at the time – was extremely hostile towards Russia, I’ll bet that this very system was turned on! So, they really did try to down Putins plane, but was fooled by the planes EW-system. At a distance, the Presidential plane may have some resemblance to the Boing – and maybe the Ukronazis was stupid enough to forget one small detail – Putins plane carries FOUR motors, whereas MH-17 flies with only 2! Well, as we have seen numerous times, the ukris do not calculate very good!
And, furthermore, as you ask: why???
Look for the motive! The story that the Rebels (or, indeed, Russian soldiers) should shoot down the plane is plainly b*llsh*t! The would have exactly ZERO ground for this!
Putin avoided flying over the conflict zone in Ukraine since the beginning of it. Also this passenger plane was directed by Ukrainian ATC, it had its transponder on and was known to be flying there. So there is no reason why the supposed Ukrainian pilots would have thought that it was Putin’s airplane. It’s just one of those theories put out there to muddy the waters.
from the video it seems the SU27 is flying away than the F-16. Isn’t it?
The relationship of distance to either jet fighter is set by the camera onboard Shoigu’s plane. Thus, the distance of the NATO plane is increasing from both camera-plane and Su.
With no other points of reference, the movement is illusorily.
The SU moved into attack position, after having shown the F16 the weapons it carried!
A figther needs to have some distance to allow an air-to-air missile to gain speed and approach the intended target, without posing any danger to one’s own aircraft!
The reason for showing the weapons was to scare the F16, and positioning itself in the rear of the ‘murican scum provided for further ‘warning’ – the screaming of the target-radar in the F16 must have been loud enough for the pilot to sh*te himself – twice!
If it was what I saw, I thought the SU-27 pulled up within view of the F-16, then dropped back behind it. And that would be uncomfortable for the F-16, having a plane load of middles aimed at its backside…
shape of actions suggests intercepts, assaults, murders revolve round strategic small goal eliminate or turn people close to Comrade P…
this is tried and sometimes effective method long visible throughout history…old stuff, but dangerous if it discovers moral flaw in key individual character…
that’s sorta what shot down the USSR, some say…the T-Word…
So, maybe it works…then communists will come to dominate? People say they won the election that put President Y in the seat (stolen election? so they say… )
If that developed one may speculate that they may not employ Judo anymore, but acts more …er…”direct”. This might go badly, or not…
Perhaps we shall know, later, Friends and Comrades…it’s a Red Sky…
Even if Lenin comes back, goes to Smolny, and say “Всю власть – советам!”, then nothing would happen. CCCP is gone once and forever. What is left is half of population, half of production and 25% of the land gone. Not from Siberia but fro Ukraine and other fertile lands. What is left over from Russia it is a Walnut between a hammer “USA” and a rock “China”.
The SU27did not have to use its missiles – from its positioning rear of the F16 it could easily have ripped it apart with cannon fire.
Always great to get your updates with your unique take on things, Scott. Some of us have been suffering symptoms of withdrawal.
Internal Exile USA,
I have been here, but also did some research that took me down the rabbit hole, for real.
Found some mind-blowing info, and will be writing about it.
Looking forward to it. Thanks for your work.
US Gov’t Proves Love for ISIS as Bill to ‘Stop Arming Terrorists’ Gets Only 13 Supporters
One of the most rational bills ever proposed, barring the Feds from giving money and weapons to child murdering terrorists, has almost ZERO support.
By Matt Agorist – June 20, 2017
Share on Facebook Tweet on Twitter
For the last several decades, the US government has openly funded, supported, and armed various terrorist networks throughout the world to forward an agenda of destabilization and proxy war. It is not a secret, nor a conspiracy theory, America arms bad guys.
Given the insidious history of the American empire and its creation and fostering of terrorist regimes across the globe, it should come as no surprise that the overwhelming majority of politicians would refuse to sign on to a law that requires them to ‘Stop Arming Terrorists.’ And, that is exactly what’s happened.
H.R.608 – Stop Arming Terrorists Act was introduced by Rep. Gabbard, Tulsi [D-HI] on January 23 of this year. The bill doesn’t have any crazy strings attached and its original cosponsors are a mix of Republicans and Democrats — highlighting that it transcends party lines.
“For years, our government has been providing both direct and indirect support to these armed militant groups, who are working directly with or under the command of terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, all in their effort and fight to overthrow the Syrian government,” Gabbard said in an interview earlier this year.
The text of the bill is simple. It merely states that it prohibits the use of federal agency funds to provide covered assistance to: (1) Al Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or any individual or group that is affiliated with, associated with, cooperating with, or adherents to such groups; or (2) the government of any country that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) determines has, within the most recent 12 months, provided covered assistance to such a group or individual…….
Apparently Israel, through aipac, said they didn’t approve, JJ.
Some additional information on the (g)ato shadowing of DM Shoigu’s flight.
NATO F-16’s Maneuver: Unfriendly Signal to Russian Leadership or Routine Task?
“Given the increase in the number of air incidents related to the rapprochement of Russian and American planes, including the last incident of [the NATO F-16 approaching] the plane of [Russian Defense Minister] Shoigu, sends an unfriendly signal to the Russian leadership,” Rozhin believes.
“These [incidents] show that the US and NATO are not interested in the normalization of relations with Russia and that they continue to support the so-called escalation trend,” he said.”
Great to see “Kassad” on Sputnik, they’ve quoted him, again as a military expert, at least once before recently. The other man quoted expressed the view the (g)ato pilot was on a routine investigative mission. What happened later, on Shoigu’s return flight lends weight to Rozhin’s view, that the zionazi quislings specifically intercepted Shoigu’s plane as part of their intimidation faggotry.
Russian Su-27 warns off NATO F-16 trying to approach defense minister’s plane over Baltic (VIDEO)
“On Shoigu’s way back from Kaliningrad, his escort was bolstered by several Su-34 jets, according to reporters. A number of NATO planes followed the Russian Defense Minister’s plane at a distance without making attempts to get any closer.”
Very obvious the zionazis were aware that Shoigu’s was aboard the flights and the faggots were making a not so subtle, but typically cowardly israeli/Jewish mafia style threat.
And Russia took note of this.
Russia missed the opportunity to shoot down the F16 and claim “collective security” reasons,
just carbon-copy the US statement for shooting down the Syrian Su-22.
No. The Russians don’t do stupid!
As I have stated elsewhere, the Russians, also, don’t do threats! The actions of the SU27 was, ålain to see, a ‘warning’ – behave, or else ….
That they treat this ‘incident’ very seriously is confirmed, by letting the return flight of Shouigo be esxorted by severeal SU34 jet’s!
And on a slightly lighter note (perhaps a bit outside of topic) – the F16 looks really small and pathetic besides the SU27! Almost like a bird of prey besides it’s much smaller prey! Surely the pilot of the small plane had some serious thoughts about the afterlife during this encounter!
American and NATO F-16 pilots should be outfitted with adult diapers as their standard issue uniforms.
On the subject of Shoigu’s plane intercept by the F16 – let’s not get carried away in either direction.
From what we were told before when Russians do it to the Yanks, it’s because planes mozying around Russian borders have their transponders off and so are unidentifyable apart from a radar blip. So Russians send interceptors which get close enough for the pilot to use “eyeball Mark I” to read the plane’s registration number and report it. Obviously, Yanks did the same in this case, and it makes sense that Russian Defence Minister’s plane would be flying with transponder off. Why advertise his pressence?
All this drivel how NATO plane ran away after the Russian fighter displayed his weapons is just dick-measuring. If there was a serious intention by anyone to shoot down anyone else, why bother coming into visual range and showing the rockets with a 120km range?
By the way, Yanks are terrified of MiG-31 to this day, a 40-odd years old plane. Mostly cause they haven’t got anything left that can match it in speed. Funny that.
On the subject of Russian cops being surrounded by a crowd of angry whoevers and still not shooting anyone in self-defence, which they could have done, I find it really interesting.
You see, that American dog in a police uniform who shot Philando Castil and walked away scot free just few days ago was apparently scared for his life because he smelled pot. On an open road. Standing outside of the car. With vehicles driving past and causing wind draft in the direction away from him. And few clearly outnumbered Russian cops could have lawfully caused a massacre and didn’t.
Without getting into a discussion about testicle-measuring, it is clear that the state of mental health in US and Russia is worlds apart. One is riddled by a histerical fear of everything, the other one… not so much. I truly pity the fool who wishes for war against Russia.